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Speaker 1: So the great split the atom controversy. Everyone's clearing that

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Speaker 1: Trump said that they split the atom. Phil has texted

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Speaker 1: me already and said Trump never said they were first

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Speaker 1: to split the atom, only that they did split one.

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Speaker 1: Others say they did split them in the nuclear bomb.

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Speaker 1: So what did Donald Trump say about splitting the atoms?

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Speaker 2: Americans pushed thousands of miles through a rugged land of

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Speaker 2: untamed wilderness. They crossed desert, scared mountains, braved untold dangers,

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Speaker 2: won the wild West, ended slavery, rescued millions from tyranny,

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Speaker 2: lifted billions from poverty, harnessed electricity, split the atom.

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Speaker 1: So this caused a controversy, so much so that Nick

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Speaker 1: Smith was upset about it. And Nick Smith joins me, now,

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Speaker 1: the mayor of Nelson, how are you.

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Speaker 3: Nick, oh box of the It's good to join your programme.

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Speaker 1: He just said Americans split the atom. They have split

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Speaker 1: the atom. They didn't. He didn't say we were the

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Speaker 1: first to split the atom. So why are we getting

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Speaker 1: our nickers in a knot?

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Speaker 3: I think splitting he is. If you read the statement

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Speaker 3: from Donald Trump in context, that was clear of the

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Speaker 3: implication was that they were the first to split the atom,

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Speaker 3: and that is incorrect. There is lots of fantastic things

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Speaker 3: that the United States of America has achieved, but they

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Speaker 3: don't need to ex appropriate the achievements of Lord Rutherford

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Speaker 3: of Nelson, where the historic record is very clear that

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Speaker 3: he was the first in nineteen seventeen to artificially trigger

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Speaker 3: a nuclear reaction and to split the atom. That scientific

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Speaker 3: record can't really be questioned. It worries me a little

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Speaker 3: bit in the sense of America is a great country,

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Speaker 3: but they don't need to the little the achievements of others,

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Speaker 3: and the achievement of Ernest Rutherford with that scientific work

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Speaker 3: as the father of modern physics, should not be undermined

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Speaker 3: or miss read.

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Speaker 1: Well, you're a chance around here. You're taking the chances

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Speaker 1: to promote your town, of.

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Speaker 3: Course I am, and to celebrate the heritage. It was

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Speaker 3: extraordinary that a small boy that grew up in a

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Speaker 3: little place called Brightwater, Foxhill and Headlock, who went to

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Speaker 3: Nelson College went on to make some of the most

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Speaker 3: amazing scientific discoveries in the early in the late nineteenth

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Speaker 3: and early twentieth century, and that it couldn't be taken away,

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Speaker 3: and it's inspirational for young New Zealanders that you can

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Speaker 3: come from a little town in a little country and

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Speaker 3: make that sort of contribution. And there's just no need

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Speaker 3: for President Trump to ex appropriate things that other countries

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Speaker 3: has achieved in setting out his vision for America.

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Speaker 1: And look at this. It happened to be local body

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Speaker 1: election year and here you are standing for mayor of

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Speaker 1: Nelson and you're happen to be on nationwide radio.

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Speaker 3: Indeed, that's my job. My job is to be an

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Speaker 3: African for Nelson, and I'll take up every optunity to

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Speaker 3: do that.

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Speaker 1: All right, thank you so much, Nick, And I have

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Speaker 1: to say a lot of people are already commenting that

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Speaker 1: perhaps we're getting a little bit too worried about nothing.

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Speaker 1: It's an idiom, as many people have said.

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