1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:01,440 Speaker 1: Heather do for sel. 2 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 2: It doesn't look like Dunedin is going to take lying 3 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 2: down that decision to downscale the new hospital. Yesterday the 4 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 2: government announced the hospital's budget has blown out from one 5 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 2: point nine to three billion and it's unaffordable. There is 6 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: a protest planned tomorrow and the mayor Jewels radit is 7 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 2: with us. 8 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: Hey, Jules, Hey, how are you? 9 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 2: I'm very well, thank you. How big is that protest 10 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 2: going to be? 11 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: Well, we don't know yet. We don't have any indication 12 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: of numbers, but I expect to be thousands of people. 13 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: What do you think the government should do if they 14 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: don't go? If they I mean they've proposed that they 15 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 2: may just you know, downscale the new one or they 16 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: may add to the existing one. You don't like either 17 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 2: of those options. 18 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: Well, in the first instance, I think they should undergo 19 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: a process or go through a process of I suppose 20 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: contract management. You know they've taken the initial contract. There 21 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: was a multinational with lots of layers of profitability in 22 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: at high level, so let's have a look. I mean, 23 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 1: our patients is going really well. It's under budget and 24 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,559 Speaker 1: on time, so it's going really well. And so by 25 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: dealing with different contractors. I think we can get the 26 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: price back down to the one point eight eight billion 27 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: and get the hospital built with all its clinical services, 28 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: services and facilities. 29 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 2: I think the contractor is the problem here, juels I do. 30 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: Why they're contract Well, they've been very good at escalating 31 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: the price of various contracts that have done for New 32 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: Zealand government, like a transmission gully, the new christ Church Hospital. 33 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: A bit of a pattern of behavior here from these guys. 34 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: You think, yes, interesting, okay, do you reckon the government's 35 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 2: movable on this? 36 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: Well? Absolutely, if they engage in that contract negotiations and 37 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: you know they are looking and talking about that, and 38 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: if they can get pricing than the realms of reasonable, 39 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: then I think they can do it. Because we've got 40 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: we've got all the designs done. I mean the piles. 41 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: From from my office window, I can see all the 42 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: piles are done. They're in the ground and finished. That 43 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: was finished this week, would you believe. And the plans 44 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: are all done. So there's two and a half thousand 45 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: pages of plans that were received on site or to 46 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: the side office a month or two ago. So there's 47 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: been a heap of a lot of money spent on 48 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: this design, and it's just a matter of getting on 49 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: and building it. And we can see what good quality 50 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: contractors can do because we can see it right next 51 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: door and the outpatients building. 52 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 2: Good luck with it, Im, and good luck with the 53 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 2: protest tomorrow. Appreciate you time. It's Jules Radditch Deneden's me. 54 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 2: He may have a point there, a contractors three times 55 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: budget blow out, blow out the budget, you got to 56 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: start getting a little bit suspicious. 57 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 58 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: news talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 59 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.