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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News talks at be Jack.

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Speaker 2: Did you just give us one verse this morning versus

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Speaker 2: multiple verses? Bravo, Jack. You've made the sixty three year

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Speaker 2: old woman not feel quite so old as she rails

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Speaker 2: against the decline and language standards and usage. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: I now have hope again that standards may not be

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Speaker 2: at risk of completely disappearing. So funny, Jack, Love it.

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Speaker 3: Jack.

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Speaker 2: I always though it was rearing to go, as in

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Speaker 2: a horse rearing, rather than the rearing I hear. Now. Look,

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Speaker 2: there are so many examples, right, So those are just

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Speaker 2: the ones, the ones that get me going, that get

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Speaker 2: my goat. I'm sure you've got a few examples as well,

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Speaker 2: so by all means, send them through. Ninety two. Ninety

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Speaker 2: two is the text number Jacket Newstalks HEV dot co

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Speaker 2: dot NZ. Kevin Melner is with us this morning more

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Speaker 2: than a Kevin.

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Speaker 3: What in a Jack? Are we going to talk about

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Speaker 3: Christ's College?

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Speaker 2: I think we should leave it, don't you think, Kevin?

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Speaker 2: I think we should leave. They've been in the news

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Speaker 2: enough this week. I think we can leave them, leave

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Speaker 2: them be, I think, But I.

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Speaker 3: Think there's a lesson that wasn't there that if if

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Speaker 3: you're going to get involved in that kind of thing

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Speaker 3: and make a national issue, make sure that the that

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Speaker 3: the offending words don't suddenly become part of a whole

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Speaker 3: national diction. What's the word national conversation? Conversation?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, effect, I thought to the whole thing. Actually,

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Speaker 2: I did think, well this is I now had all

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Speaker 2: of these people saying to me, you're from christ Church.

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Speaker 2: What does this mean? I said, yeah, we probably don't

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Speaker 2: need to go there, but no idea, Yes, yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: did You used to get corrected when you're on for

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Speaker 2: your go from time to time, you probably never made

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Speaker 2: any usage.

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Speaker 3: My memory was one day reading the lunchtime news on

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Speaker 3: national television, and I'd always up to that moment thought

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Speaker 3: that the alternative spelling for jail was which was G

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Speaker 3: A O L was pronounced goal, And so I read

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Speaker 3: a line that said something like so and so was

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Speaker 3: sent to goal for ten years. It was a long

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Speaker 3: time to spend on the gold Mouth.

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Speaker 2: It's an awful, awfully long time to see in the

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Speaker 2: gold Mouth.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And of course you got back to the newsroom

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Speaker 3: and everybody's cheering and taking the mac and it was awful. Really, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you just have to.

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Speaker 2: It's a terrible.

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Speaker 3: Place to find out, is it live TV to such

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Speaker 3: a huge audience. It's a terrible way to find out

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Speaker 3: that you've been mis pronouncing a word.

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Speaker 2: Well except that, except that when you are an insufferable

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Speaker 2: curmudgeon like me, who's who never holds back on correcting

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Speaker 2: everyone else from time to time, it's probably a little

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Speaker 2: bit of usage justice just to come in and see

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Speaker 2: your email and box full of people saying Jack, it's

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Speaker 2: versus not verse. I knew it as well. That was

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Speaker 2: a frustrating thing that anyway, Kevin, we digress. Hey, Kevin,

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Speaker 2: you you want to talk about changing drinking habits this morning.

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Speaker 3: I was impressed to hear on Thursday that New Zealand

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Speaker 3: Alisa King has secured a big deal selling her AF

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Speaker 3: drinks that's alcohol free canned cocktails throughout the UK. These

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Speaker 3: drinks mimic the taste of classic cocktails, but without using alcohol.

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Speaker 3: Here's a woman who started AF Drinks at her home

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Speaker 3: as a COVID lockdown project just five years ago. Five

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Speaker 3: years then launched successfully into the huge US market. Her

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Speaker 3: can drinks are now in forty one states across America.

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Speaker 3: So she's just announced she's now launching through Morrison's supermarkets

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Speaker 3: and convenience stores in Britain right through the UK. What

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Speaker 3: I especially like about this though, it's breaking into what's

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Speaker 3: an expanding no alcohol, low alcohol market, especially among young drinkers.

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Speaker 3: As King says, this isn't about sobriety, it's about moderation

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Speaker 3: and I love this from her. A new wave of

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Speaker 3: mindful drinkers is redefining what it means to be social,

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Speaker 3: sophisticated and in control. Doesn't that sound cool? Jack? What

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Speaker 3: do you reckon?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah it does. Yeah, I think it sounds great.

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Speaker 3: I think if there's a's a new generation of drinkers

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Speaker 3: coming through who just don't want to drink till they

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Speaker 3: fall over, this is wonderful. According to Statistics New Zealand,

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Speaker 3: the volume of alcohol and beverages available in New Zealand,

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Speaker 3: the volume of alcohol is going down. In other words,

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Speaker 3: New Zealanders are saying, yes, I still want to drink,

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Speaker 3: but I don't want so much alcohol in it. I

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Speaker 3: remember when no alcohol beers first appeared in ousive markets.

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Speaker 3: I talked on the show about but how tasty some

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Speaker 3: of them were. I hoped drinkers were given them a try. Well,

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Speaker 3: now none of the pubs that I go into are

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Speaker 3: without them, So let's make sure we've got some loaves

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Speaker 3: or nose in our fridges over Christmas for guests who

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Speaker 3: want to be social, sophisticated and in control.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, said Kevin. It is a really interesting trend,

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Speaker 2: and it's actually been led by younger people, which is

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Speaker 2: the most intriguing thing about the whole kind of shift really.

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Speaker 2: And I think so I'm a sort of I'm a millennial, right,

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Speaker 2: so I'm thirty eight at the moment, and you know,

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Speaker 2: I honestly I reckon I wouldn't have had I would

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Speaker 2: have had an absolute maximum of three drinks in a night,

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Speaker 2: and I wouldn't have exceeded that for probably ten or

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Speaker 2: fifteen years maximum, whereas I think the generations have gone

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Speaker 2: before me would have had more. The truth is, personally speaking,

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Speaker 2: I just never I enjoy a drink from time to time,

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Speaker 2: but I never want to feel bad the next day,

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Speaker 2: and I never want to do anything that imperils my sleep.

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Speaker 2: So but but I think, I think for for some

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Speaker 2: younger people and gen Z, it's you know, it's even

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Speaker 2: more pronounced and you know. I look at my wife,

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Speaker 2: for example, who doesn't doesn't drink at all, and she

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Speaker 2: loves all of the non alcoholic options because they're a

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Speaker 2: bit more sophisticated than just your lolly waters, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd never had an af AF drink.

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Speaker 3: And then after I've heard this news, I happened to

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Speaker 3: be have my head in my my beer fridge out

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Speaker 3: in the garage, and there were a couple of cans

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Speaker 3: of a drinks obviously that my daughter had in that,

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Speaker 3: so that was interesting. They were they were a flavor

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Speaker 3: I wasn't all that keen on.

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Speaker 1: But.

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Speaker 3: They had ginger in them, which I wasn't so sure about.

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Speaker 3: But I think it might have been whiskey and very good.

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Speaker 2: Oh it's a good's. It is amazing. It is very

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Speaker 2: much a trend at the moment, Kevin. Thank you sir.

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Speaker 2: We will catch again very soon. And thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for all of your messages. Gosh, we've had so

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Speaker 2: many texts. Jack, life is too easy of these language

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Speaker 2: things in all you. I don't know about that nice

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Speaker 2: opening gambit this morning, Jack, that was an excellent piece

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Speaker 2: of writing, a great lesson in the English language. Jack,

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Speaker 2: you are the same as most no at alls I meet,

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Speaker 2: often correcting us all but then honestly I'm no different

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Speaker 2: as my Scottish terminology so often breaches grammar, tense basic

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Speaker 2: guides around the English language. Yeah, look, how are You're

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Speaker 2: not the only one there. I think there are lots

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Speaker 2: of us who many of us who enjoy or who

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Speaker 2: don't hesitate to correct others, but then get a little

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Speaker 2: bit frustrated when we get corrected ourselves. Jack. As a

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Speaker 2: fellow corrector, I'm continually annoyed by the misuse of the

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Speaker 2: word utilize. One uses some for its intended purpose and

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Speaker 2: utilizes something for its unintended purpose. That's a good one. Oh,

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Speaker 2: here's a classic. Sue says, amount and number. I think

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Speaker 2: people use amount to sound more intelligent, but it conveys

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Speaker 2: the opposite.

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