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Speaker 1: Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues. The

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Speaker 1: Mic Hosking Breakfast with Alveda, Retirement, Communities, Life, Your Way, News,

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Speaker 2: Welcome today the vote. Former US Ambassador Mark Gilberts is

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Speaker 2: well us along with Marc Rubio's former wingman. We got

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Speaker 2: job numbers here today. Sheila Laxon knows how to train

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Speaker 2: a winnershes in post celebrations in Melbourne s Morning, Mark

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Speaker 2: and Jinny do politics after rape this morning, Richard Arnold's

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Speaker 2: Deep Price. They do the magic for us as well.

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Speaker 2: Pasky go seven past six, three oh four to two

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Speaker 2: twenty seven. That was a final score in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 2: The only reason I mentioned that is because I stood

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Speaker 2: at the Javits Center in downtown Manhattan until well into

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Speaker 2: the early hours of the morning after election day and

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Speaker 2: Hillary had refused to come out to concede. If that

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Speaker 2: happens when it's not even close tonight might be an

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Speaker 2: even bigger mess. A landslide either way would be helpful

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Speaker 2: for various reasons, because if it's not, social media will

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Speaker 2: explode and lawyers will make lifetimes worth of income in

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Speaker 2: the avalanche of legal proceedings that will ensue. In many respects,

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Speaker 2: the way America votes is a reflection on the state

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Speaker 2: of the race we have seen. It is a pitiful

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Speaker 2: mess for such a large, influential, and wealthy country. The

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Speaker 2: Democrats have the most to lose because they are the incumbents,

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Speaker 2: and generally the incumbents get a second crack, while they

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Speaker 2: did when times were more normal than they are at

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Speaker 2: the moment. Trump dismissed after one shambolic term, Harris lined

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Speaker 2: up to try and prevent two one termers in a

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Speaker 2: row as a plan. Someone should be held accountable for that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, think about it. Harris is there because she's

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Speaker 2: a woman in one of color. That was the Biden thinking.

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Speaker 2: The thinking on Biden was he was the only one

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Speaker 2: they had that had a chance to stop Trump, and

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Speaker 2: he did. But once he did that, then what no

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Speaker 2: one seemed to know. Did they really think he could

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Speaker 2: pull that trick off for a second time in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four And if he couldn't, was Harris really the

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Speaker 2: rock star they needed to carry the torch? In many respects,

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Speaker 2: the fact that this is close is a disgrace. Trump,

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Speaker 2: having been ousted once, should not even be in the race.

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Speaker 2: The fact he is is a sign of just what

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Speaker 2: a force of nature he is, and what a pitiful

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Speaker 2: collection of no hope as the Democrats are. If Trump wins,

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Speaker 2: be as amazed or furious or worried as you like,

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Speaker 2: but it will be one of the greatest victories in

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Speaker 2: modern democracy anywhere He has been unrelenting. If Harris wins,

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Speaker 2: it's a sigh of release, a scramble across the line.

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Speaker 2: They should be bolting home. They have the Senate and

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Speaker 2: the presidency, and they're up against a crook. How do

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Speaker 2: you make a tight race? And yet here we are

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Speaker 2: and how long we are here arguing depends on just

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Speaker 2: how close it is tonight or tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: What news of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: One wrapped it up in Philly.

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Speaker 4: Ours has not been a fight against something. It has

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Speaker 4: been a fight for something, a fight for a future

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Speaker 4: with freedom, with opportunity, and with dignity for all Americans.

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Speaker 5: The other in Michigan, this isn't my campaign, this is

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Speaker 5: your campaign. This is a great campaign. That's now it's

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Speaker 5: nine years and we've been fighting side by side every

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Speaker 6: We've been together.

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Speaker 2: Now it's up to the people. If we get the

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Speaker 2: price of fuel and oil down.

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Speaker 3: That's really going to start to help.

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Speaker 7: We'd like to have a commander in chief that our

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Speaker 7: highlies respect and a commander in chief that our enemies

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Speaker 8: The cost of goods has really gone through the roofs.

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Speaker 9: We need to close that border, and we need to

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Speaker 9: close it right away.

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Speaker 2: It is as always about swing states, and one of

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Speaker 2: which is Pennsylvania year of course, and once you're in

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Speaker 10: Polls opened in Pennsylvania at seven am, and there were

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Speaker 10: long lines here in Ben Salem and Bucks County, two

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Speaker 10: a lot of attention when the result will be It

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Speaker 10: took four days in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Elsewhere, on Monday Night football, Jesson Kelsey, who had spent

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Speaker 2: sometime earlier in the week smashing of fans fund, said

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Speaker 11: Not happy with anything that took place. I'm not proud

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Speaker 11: of it. I chose to greet hate with hate, and

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Speaker 11: I just don't think that that's a productive thing.

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Speaker 12: We heard from the Palace today that she won't be

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Speaker 2: Indeed, the main event at the weekend are a remembrance events,

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Speaker 2: and we speak of Kevilla. Finally, Japanese researchers have built

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Speaker 2: and launched the world's first satellite into space made of wood.

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Speaker 2: It's called the Lignosatum, named after the Latin word for wood.

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Speaker 2: It'll be released into orbit near the International Space Station.

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Speaker 2: Crucial step in NASA's fifty year planned to plant trees

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Speaker 2: and build timber houses on the Moon. I didn't know

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Speaker 8: On the moon.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: they're going straight to Elon and go, hey, look have

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Speaker 2: we got a wooden house for a year. Here's the world.

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Speaker 2: The ninety seconds. By the way, following the machinists, they've

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Speaker 2: voted yes, not all of them. Actually is only fifty

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Speaker 2: nine percent, but that's enough. So they're going to go

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Speaker 2: gone on striking Canada. All the ports are shut Vancouver, Rupert.

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Speaker 2: I'd be You're ready to party plus four point eight percent.

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Speaker 2: The farmers are in Clover fifteen past six day and

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Speaker 2: my wife Andrew calla have very good morning. Yeah, good

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Speaker 13: They are they are so Global dairy trade auction overnight

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Speaker 13: This hour comes in twenty August twenty twenty four. Almost

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Speaker 13: all the components delivered positive results. So you sort of

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Speaker 2: More than place. And so if it's good for them,

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Speaker 13: Key points underline inflation is too high, even though headline

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Speaker 2: It's running high, all right, And we've got jobs numbers two.

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Speaker 2: At b We'll follow the money in just a couple

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Speaker 2: of moments. The money market says regards the vote today,

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Speaker 2: but the voting trend so far, early voting turnout is

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Speaker 2: so it's down significantly. Republicans have grown their pre election

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Speaker 2: Republicans out slightly earlier. Genda still an issue. Seven of

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Speaker 2: All year, It's impossible. I mean, is it possible to

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's all very exciting election day, but I

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Speaker 2: to November of twenty two.

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Speaker 5: In order to make America great and glorious again, I

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Speaker 5: am tonight announcing my candidacy for President of the United States.

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Speaker 2: This is not a time to be complacent. That's why

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Speaker 13: Elections Donald Trump will officially become the first former president

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Speaker 13: in the history of these United States to face a

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Speaker 8: He says, you're not going to be a dictator, are you?

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Speaker 3: I said, no, no, No other than.

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Speaker 16: Day one, what I've been able to do with the

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Speaker 2: Look, if we finally beat medicare.

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Speaker 9: We are F't that reaction from a democratic source.

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Speaker 17: It's up to the president to suicide if he is

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Speaker 18: If you want to really see something that said, take

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Speaker 9: For the first time in over half a century, a

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Speaker 9: sitting president who can still run for re election will

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Speaker 9: not appear on the ballot.

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Speaker 2: Kamala Paris.

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Speaker 4: Do we believe in the promise of America? The next

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Speaker 2: Jim Wall you know it, you feel it.

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Speaker 3: These guys are creepy, and yes, just where it does Hell.

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Speaker 9: It is therefore my honor to nominate Ohio Senator jd Vance.

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Speaker 3: The childish cat lady.

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Speaker 9: Would you like to comment on that?

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Speaker 3: Obviously it was a sarcastic comment. I've got nothing against

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Speaker 3: cats in Springfield. They're eating the dogs.

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Speaker 5: The people that came in.

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Speaker 9: From campaign says shots were fired in the vicinity of

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Speaker 9: the former president.

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Speaker 5: Arnold Palmer was all mad.

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Speaker 2: He took showers with the other pros.

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Speaker 5: They came out of there.

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Speaker 18: They said, Oh my god, I'm looking for a job

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Speaker 5: How do you like my garbage truck? This cook is

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Speaker 5: an honor of Kamala and Joe Baden.

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Speaker 3: Are we ready to vote?

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Speaker 15: Are we ready to win?

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Speaker 5: With your vote tomorrow, we can fix every single problem

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Speaker 2: You can't buy this stuff. I wouldn't get excited till

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Speaker 2: I'm excited now, for God's sake. But two pm is Michigan, Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 2: It's not when the polls close, the poles closing doesn't

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Speaker 2: it'll go on and on and on so in many respects,

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Speaker 2: As I said earlier on this morning, you want something

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Speaker 2: clean and clear, right of the way. But the other thing.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into Richard Arnold shortly. By the way. The

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Speaker 2: More and that shortly meantime the News is next, your News,

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Speaker 1: Trusted home the News Entertainment's opinion and Mike Mike Hosking

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Speaker 3: The law designed to intrigue and use talks dead B.

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Speaker 2: One of the things I like about America is two

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Speaker 2: you vote, you can speak, and you're a candidate, you

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Speaker 18: This election should be over. They spend all this money

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Speaker 18: the paper ballots would cost eight percent. It would be

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Speaker 18: eight percent of the cost. If they would use paper ballots,

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Speaker 18: voter ID proof of citizenship and one day voting, it

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Speaker 3: By ten o'clock in the evening.

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Speaker 18: It's crazy. They use these very expensive computers, and I'm

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Speaker 18: hearing in Pennsylvania they won't to have an answer till

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Speaker 2: That's not true. Paper ballots are cumbersome and slow, as

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Speaker 2: was demonstrated as I watched yesterday in Arizona. As they

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Speaker 2: And if there are two paper ones versus two paper twos,

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Speaker 2: they've got to do something about that. They then, if

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Speaker 1: So and that's assuming that they haven't been set on fire, of.

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Speaker 2: Course, exactly so he's full of it. Anyway, He said

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Speaker 2: he won't be running again. He said, I would think so.

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Speaker 2: He thought the election had been fair so far. If

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Speaker 2: I lose an election, if it's a fair election, it'll

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Speaker 2: be the first to acknowledge that. But then again, what's

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Speaker 2: a fair election for goodness sake, Then we come to

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Speaker 2: the business of freebies, and they got momentarily excited because

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Speaker 2: it's legal. The other thing I like about America, by

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Speaker 2: And the other thing they do in America, I like

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Speaker 2: I said many many times before, if you're a juror

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Speaker 2: do both things similarly. Here anyway, it's legal to reward

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Speaker 2: which brings, of course Elon Musk into the equation. But

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Speaker 2: they're offering ride share deals today. Uber and Lyft will

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Speaker 2: take you to the polling booth for half price, which

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Speaker 2: but back here, governmently by the Prime Minister from the

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Speaker 2: oblite documents around the military style academies. The government's running

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Speaker 2: to straighten out these young criminals. Now the papers showed

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Speaker 2: that the Academy should be able to use force. The

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Speaker 2: charge of all of this is Karen Shaw, and she

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Speaker 2: as well as Karen, very good morning.

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Speaker 14: To you, morning mate.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday the Herald were claiming you weren't wanting to answer

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Speaker 14: It tends to be very cautious about speaking to a

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Speaker 2: Okay, is that still the case or do you get

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Speaker 19: There are certain things also that I follow as well,

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Speaker 2: Have you still not spoken to the Prime Minister about.

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Speaker 14: I haven't actually sat down and had an individual conversation

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Speaker 2: Without giving anything away as to what's going on in cabinet.

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Speaker 2: Has it gone before cabinet.

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Speaker 14: The decisions that have gone before cabinet are the ones

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Speaker 20: Can force be used, Yes, force can be used, but

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Speaker 20: only under very strict conditions and we have regulations to

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Speaker 2: Why when force can be used? Did the Prime Minister

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Speaker 14: I'm sure the premise that would know that when you're

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Speaker 2: He didn't know that, he said he didn't know.

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Speaker 14: Well, I wouldn't able to comment to that.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, How does cabinet work? Once again without giving it away,

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Speaker 14: also that goes out for concerts also reconsult with each other.

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Speaker 2: Right, So, having had it before cabinet and having discussed

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Speaker 2: it in any questions to be asked, were asked, how

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Speaker 14: I was I can't actually speak to the process of

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Speaker 14: anything particular. I'm just talking to the process in general,

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Speaker 14: so that that comment I made was not what happened

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Speaker 14: in particular to anything, all right. To make sure that

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Speaker 2: If that's fine, If I had asked you yesterday as

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Speaker 2: to whether the government had agreed that force will be

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Speaker 2: used in these military camps, would you have able to

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Speaker 14: This is my portfolio and my paper, so I yes,

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Speaker 14: I would have been able to answer.

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Speaker 2: That to you, and as of yesterday you would have

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Speaker 2: been able to say, yes, you will be using force.

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Speaker 14: I would be saying we would use restraints if a

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Speaker 14: child that was going to abscond or was going to

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Speaker 14: hurt themselves with somebody else. That already currently happens with

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Speaker 14: certain facilities.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 2: So to get to and there's two parts to this,

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Speaker 2: I guess one is whether you think that that's acceptable

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Speaker 2: or not in people like the Greens and the Marray

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Speaker 2: Party don't. But I suspect that most New Zealanders would

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Speaker 2: be on your side in that sense. But it's a

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Speaker 2: very sensitive subject, a subject that you'll be apologizing for

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Speaker 2: next Tuesday on different matters. Why wasn't the government cognizant

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Speaker 2: and sensitive enough to understand that that is the situation

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Speaker 2: and therefore be upfront and fully knowledgeable about what they

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Speaker 14: This is not making changes to the fact that this

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Speaker 14: can already currently happen, and all I am all the

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Speaker 14: changes I made were to make it that is, the

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Speaker 14: outside of a setting of the secure residents, like on

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Speaker 14: a field trip or out on an overnight camping trip,

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Speaker 14: that we have the ability to keep them safe and

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Speaker 14: keep our staff safe. So yes, there is a report

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Speaker 14: into the abusing care and safe based places. But the

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Speaker 14: fact of the matter is if we are going to

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Speaker 14: give these kids a shot, if we are going to

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Speaker 14: give these young people a chance, we have to have

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Speaker 14: the ability to actually put a little bit of trust

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Speaker 14: in them and be able to do things outside of

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Speaker 14: the residence. But we also have to keep usselfs safe

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Speaker 14: while doing that.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate time very much. Karen saw the Children's Ministers

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Speaker 2: sixteen to two.

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Speaker 2: Richard Donald, morning to you, Good morning, Mike, and here

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Speaker 2: we are.

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Speaker 7: Yes both Kamala Harris and Donald Trump. Campaigning down to

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Speaker 7: the wire. Trump was at a rally at two am

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Speaker 7: this morning, Thank you. And Harris made three stops in

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Speaker 7: most Win, Pennsylvania, including a star started events at Philadelphia's

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Speaker 7: Rocky Steps, the place where Slice to learn, his fictional

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Speaker 7: movie character in the Rocky Film, decided he would challenge

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Speaker 7: his boxing rival, said Harris.

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Speaker 4: Here at these famous steps a tribute to those who

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Speaker 4: start as the underdogs and climb to victory.

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Speaker 7: So that is Harris's hope. While Trump has declared today will.

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Speaker 22: Be the most important day in the history of our country.

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Speaker 7: So as Americans go to the polls, some eighty million

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Speaker 7: already had voted early, about half the expected Talley. That's

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Speaker 7: a huge, huge number. One Republican man in Texas who

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Speaker 7: says he just voted for Harris says he did so

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Speaker 7: because of January the sixth, and because of women's reproductive rights.

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Speaker 13: I've got four strong daughters and they probably would just

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Speaker 13: shoot me if I did not vote for their rights.

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Speaker 7: Well, in a way, this election is in part the

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Speaker 7: battle of the sex is because of the gender gap

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Speaker 7: that we've been seeing. The Harris team says they are

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Speaker 7: ending their campaign in a mood of quote nauseous optimism.

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Speaker 7: Comedian Jimmy Kimmel says, it feels like the whole country

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Speaker 7: is waiting to get the results of a biopsyne Yeah,

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Speaker 7: strange is showing. Trump has been campaigning for this for

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Speaker 7: two years. Seemed to lose it a bit over his

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Speaker 7: recent microphone problems at one of his events, where he

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Speaker 7: had to actually hold the mic my hand.

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Speaker 22: I've never held a microphone up so long in my

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Speaker 22: damn life. It's like I'm waiting lifting suckers heavy. I'm

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Speaker 22: working my ass off with his stupid mic. I'm blown

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Speaker 22: out my left arm now. I'm gonna blow out my

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Speaker 22: right arm, and I'm blowing out my damn throat too,

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Speaker 22: because he's stupid.

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Speaker 7: People blowing out his arm. Everyone needs a break, I guess.

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Speaker 7: And speaking short time ago, Trump sounded a bit more wrested.

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Speaker 7: Social walk of the former football star and olympian was

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Speaker 7: called on to introduce the Donald at that event. Didn't

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Speaker 7: quite get there.

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Speaker 22: We did to the poll, and we vote for my

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Speaker 22: friend and your friend, Donald Trump Junior, Donald Trump, Donald Trump.

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Speaker 7: One of those Trump's not junior anyway. Before the President

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Speaker 7: suggests we the one time sports figure who has struggled

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Speaker 7: with the mental issues should have a top national security role.

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Speaker 22: We will build a missile defense shield, all made in

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Speaker 22: the USA, wrapped around our country to defend ourselves in

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Speaker 22: our country. It's all going to be.

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Speaker 5: Made in the United States, so a lot of it

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Speaker 5: in your great state.

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Speaker 6: Will put herschel walker in judge of that little soccer.

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Speaker 7: That soccer. Trump also suggests that r Kay Junior should

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Speaker 7: run health in a second Trump line up. I'm going

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Speaker 7: to let him go wild on health.

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Speaker 14: I'm going to let him go wild on the food.

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Speaker 7: I'm going to let him go wild on medicine. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: that's well, here's how RFK, the famed conspiracy theorist and

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Speaker 7: what bear cub collector put his view of this.

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Speaker 23: The key that I think you know the President Trump

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Speaker 23: has promised me is is control of the public health agencies,

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Speaker 23: which are HHS in IT sub agencies, CDC, FDA and

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Speaker 23: i H and a few others, and then also the USDA.

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Speaker 7: So elon for cutting government agencies, RFK for going wild

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Speaker 7: on medicines and herschel He's suffered a number of football

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Speaker 7: injuries for missile defenses. Trump used his final realley to

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Speaker 7: also go after a former speaker, Nancy Pelosi. Horrible, he

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Speaker 7: says of Pelosi. Well, he uses, well, we can't use

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Speaker 7: on the radio.

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Speaker 8: He's an evil, sick crazy. It starts with a B.

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Speaker 2: But I won't say it.

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Speaker 14: I want to say it.

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Speaker 7: As for the vote, little Dixville, not to always first account,

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Speaker 7: there six votes right after midnight split them three votes

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Speaker 7: for Harris, three for Trump, so right in line with

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Speaker 7: the polls. The twenty twenty vote, you recall, took five

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Speaker 7: days account This could be a lengthy process as well,

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Speaker 7: although we will get a crucial early indicator Pennsylvania pivotal

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Speaker 7: as we've been saying their poles close at two pm

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Speaker 7: your time. They already had in some one point seven

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Speaker 7: million early votes, so could be counting all night.

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Speaker 2: All right, might go well, unless, of course, there's many

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Speaker 2: correspondents are texting and emailing me this morning. It's too

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Speaker 2: big to rig. Eight minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 3: Breakfast with Dailey's real estate news talks, there'd be by the.

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Speaker 2: Way out of Britain overnight. Major back down from the

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Speaker 2: Labour government, the new Labor government, they are not going

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Speaker 2: to ban smoking in the gardens of pubs and restaurants.

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Speaker 2: Great deal of angst over that. The Health secretary we're

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Speaker 2: streeting didn't want to cause any further harm to hospit

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Speaker 2: wonder why so he's learned his lesson, which is good.

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Speaker 2: Five away from seven.

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Speaker 3: Well, the ins and the outs.

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Speaker 1: It's the fizz with business tiber take your business productivity to.

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Speaker 7: The next level.

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Speaker 2: Economists looking over the policies in the US not that

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Speaker 2: there have been that many specific policies have in course.

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Speaker 2: In short, the fiscal deficit is likely to increase more

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Speaker 2: under Trump, while Harris's policies are more likely to lead

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Speaker 2: to a recession, is their conclusion. So the current US

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Speaker 2: deficit three point zero six trillion, an increase of two

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Speaker 2: hundred and thirty billion in the last year. That's the

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Speaker 2: third largest deficit in US history, behind the pandemic years

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Speaker 2: of twenty twenty and twenty twenty one. Trump's policies could

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Speaker 2: deepen the deficit by almost thirteen billion. Harris policies would

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Speaker 2: deepen it by six point six billion. Harris would recoup

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Speaker 2: a lot of that by increasing the corporate ten rate

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Speaker 2: if it works, because she's looking from twenty one to

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Speaker 2: twenty eight percent, which is the largest increase in the

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Speaker 2: developed world in fifty years. So that's how left she is.

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Speaker 2: It has been seen as the damage in tax would

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Speaker 2: almos certainly lead to a recession for obvious reasons. Largest

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Speaker 2: cost from Trump's plan would be extending and modifying the

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Speaker 2: Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, exempting overtime from taxes, ending

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Speaker 2: tax on a social security benefit. Also wants to strengthen

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Speaker 2: the military and deport unauthorized immigrants. Of course, he would

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Speaker 2: upset all of that by taris. He says, we'll earn

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Speaker 2: four and a half billion dollars. Now here's the problem.

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Speaker 2: That's what they say, but not what they do. Because

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Speaker 2: the House is up for grabs general consensus, it won't change.

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Speaker 2: Republicans run the House. The Senate, a third of which

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Speaker 2: is up for grabs a number of open races. There

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Speaker 2: is a not unreasonable chance the Republicans can flip the Senate.

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Speaker 2: If Trump wins, and they've got the Senate and the House,

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Speaker 2: he can do anything if he wants if they win

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Speaker 2: the Senate. But Harris, She's lame duck. So none of

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Speaker 2: what I've just said matters anyway.

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Speaker 1: More shortly, the newsmakers and the personalities, the big names,

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Speaker 1: talk to Mike my costing, Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate,

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Speaker 1: your local experts, across residential, commercial, and rural news talks.

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Speaker 2: He had been only seven past seven, So every four

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Speaker 2: years of the world doesn't stop, certainly at pauses long

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Speaker 2: enough to pay attention to the most consequential election of

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Speaker 2: them all, the presidency of the United States of America.

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Speaker 2: Much has been made with the polls, of the quality

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Speaker 2: of the candidates, of the closeness of the race. As always,

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Speaker 2: it will come down to the swing states. Now. Mark Gilbert,

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Speaker 2: former US Ambassador to New Zealander, is back with US. Mark,

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Speaker 2: very good morning to you. Good morning Are you bullish

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Speaker 2: or full of apprehension?

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Speaker 6: I feel pretty good of it where we are based

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Speaker 6: on what our ground game we've had Terrisia Crown Gain,

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Speaker 6: very sophisticated. We're in all seven of the battleground states,

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Speaker 6: and I believe it's a good chair that we will

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Speaker 6: win most, if not all of them.

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Speaker 2: Do you well, does that make it as close as

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Speaker 2: the poll site? Do you believe the polls?

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Speaker 6: Because of our electoral college, the polls can be very machhading,

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Speaker 6: but the poles have been within the margin of era

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Speaker 6: in the seven battle round stands for a month now

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Speaker 6: and we've seen late breakers moving our direction. Us with

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Speaker 6: the ground game we have, we feel really good about

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Speaker 6: getting out the votes, getting out those leader undecided, and

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Speaker 6: we feel really good about this. And when you talk

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Speaker 6: about the election, it's a margin of era race. So

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Speaker 6: we may only win some states by five or ten

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Speaker 6: thousand votes. But the way our election works is if

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Speaker 6: you get all the electoral dudes's coreat so it can

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Speaker 6: actually be in electoral college land.

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Speaker 2: Do you the early vote count overall is down on

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty, Does that part worry you or not? He's gone,

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Speaker 2: He's on a train that's the American telephone system for you.

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Speaker 2: By the way, as far as the models are concerned,

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Speaker 2: Jail Partners, we've seen a fairly dramatic, it might not

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Speaker 2: be too strong a word, but a definite move to

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Speaker 2: Harris as they run their various scenarios. So Jail Partners,

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Speaker 2: Trump wins in sixty percent of simulations. Just a couple

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Speaker 2: of days ago, that was sixty two. Let's go back.

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Speaker 2: I think we've got Mark back on the phone. Mark

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Speaker 2: apologies about the connection to the phone. Do you worry

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Speaker 2: about the early vote being out and not being of

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Speaker 2: the size of twenty twenty. He's clearly not there. Let's

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Speaker 2: give that one a miss. So the scenarios that jay

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Speaker 2: Ol Partners are running sixty percent, so the lowest number

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Speaker 2: for a month dropped date points. Trump has dropped eight

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Speaker 2: points in the past week. So from overall, it's gone

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Speaker 2: lean Trump to toss up Trump. The swing state probabilities,

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Speaker 2: they've all changed, notable impacts In Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, and Arizona.

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Speaker 2: Trump's win probabilities increase by six and a half points.

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Speaker 2: He's gone from likely to strong, and Michigan Harris's win

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Speaker 2: probabilities increased twelve point eight points, So it's now a

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Speaker 2: lean Harris Wisconsin sixteen point movement against Trump. So toss

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Speaker 2: up Trump to lean Harris. So we're in the We're

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Speaker 2: into the weird and wonderful because you got any number

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Speaker 2: of people from Nate Silba to Henry Olsen who was

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Speaker 2: on the programme yesterday, saying they believe Trump can win.

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Speaker 2: Some people are suggesting Rasmus and are suggesting Trump not

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Speaker 2: only wins, but he wins by quite a long way.

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Speaker 2: And yet jail partners and all their modeling goes completely

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Speaker 2: the other way. Marca Ruby is man. By the way,

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Speaker 2: Matt Terrell's going to be back as long as we

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Speaker 2: can get a decent phone out of America for you.

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Speaker 2: After seven thirty ten minutes past seven pasking they come

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Speaker 2: Jobs dart A up today, most mister picking between four

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Speaker 2: point nine to five point one increase in Principal economist

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Speaker 2: Christina Jung is back. Well, it's Christina, good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: What a four point nine to five or five point one?

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Speaker 2: What's your care?

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Speaker 24: We're expecting the unemployment rate to pick up to just

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Speaker 24: over five percent in the September quarter. So if we

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Speaker 24: look at other labor market indicators, they do point to

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Speaker 24: a further weakening in hiring. For example, our own inded

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Speaker 24: al quarterly Serve our Business Opinion shows that while firms

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Speaker 24: are starting to feel a bit more optimistic about general

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Speaker 24: economic conditions, certainly when it comes to hiring, there's still

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Speaker 24: quite a bit of caution out there. Over a third

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Speaker 24: of firms reduce heat count in the September quarter, and

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Speaker 24: then around nine percent are indicating that they plan to

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Speaker 24: reduce staff numbers in the next quarter.

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Speaker 2: What's your pick for a peak and when?

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Speaker 24: So, we do expect that the unemployment rate will peak

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Speaker 24: at just under six percent towards the end of next year.

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Speaker 24: It bears to remember that our labor market does to

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Speaker 24: lag broader economic activity, and that reflects the fact that

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Speaker 24: firms when it comes to once they see that slowing

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Speaker 24: in economic activity. Generally you do initially see some a

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Speaker 24: bit of labor hoarding going on, particularly when we look

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Speaker 24: over the COVID nineteen pandemic period. Firms are reluctant to

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Speaker 24: have to go through that again. So it's not until

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Speaker 24: there's actually quite a sustained slowing which is what we've

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Speaker 24: seen that firms do start to shed workers and hence

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Speaker 24: you get that slowing, broader slowing in.

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Speaker 14: The labor market.

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Speaker 2: Are we seeing variability in the jobs you know, geographically

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Speaker 2: and industry wise or sect the wise.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, So if we look at the slowing in terms

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Speaker 24: of the shedding of workers the labor market, where that

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Speaker 24: weakening is it is fairly broad based. Healthcare is one

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Speaker 24: area where there's been where it's been pretty resilient in

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Speaker 24: terms of jobs demanded for jobs. But when it comes

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Speaker 24: so for example, professional services and construction, there's been weakening

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Speaker 24: in those areas and that reflects the impact the negative

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Speaker 24: impact of higher interest rates on demand. Now, higher interest

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Speaker 24: rates over the past year has reduced demand in a

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Speaker 24: lot of areas. For example, when it comes to construction,

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Speaker 24: it's made the feasibility of a lot of development projects

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Speaker 24: no longer feasible because of that high cost to borrow.

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Speaker 24: And generally, when you think about investment, it's the cost

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Speaker 24: that with high interest rates it made it harder to

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Speaker 24: We've seen that comes through in weakness and construction demand,

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Speaker 24: and then when it comes to prefer professional services, that

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Speaker 24: reflects that broader US weakening in demand. In the news

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, Christina Precier very much, Christina lung insi Ier,

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Speaker 2: Principal Economist, thirteen past seven. We are but and Andrew

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Speaker 2: previewed this yesterday on the program. They came out with

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Speaker 2: their resilience tests. They've been testing the economy, testing the banks,

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Speaker 2: having a look at what's going on. They've come to

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Speaker 2: the conclusion that mortgage defaults will still go higher because

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Speaker 2: of the unemployment. Now I'll give you more detail on

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Speaker 2: that because I think they're wrong. Fourteen past seven.

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Speaker 2: The Melbourne Cup of four eight o'clock Mike, the banks

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Speaker 2: are trying their hardest not to foreclose. They're letting people

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Speaker 2: balloon their mortgages, effectively printing money. More trouble ahead, Kevin,

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Speaker 2: that's wrong. They're not ballooning. There's no balloon. When when

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Speaker 2: you delay paying back your mortgage, you're not printing money.

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Speaker 2: Let me come back to that. Seventeen past seven now

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Speaker 2: seem to have the final call on Wellington's tunnel drama. Second,

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Speaker 2: what we got here. We got a second mount Vic

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Speaker 2: and we've got a Terrace tunnel. So we've got a

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Speaker 2: couple of tunnels next top the investment case which will

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Speaker 2: be longer than a tunnel that'll be presented to the

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Speaker 2: NZTA by mid next year. Business Central CEO Simon Arkiss

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Speaker 2: with a Simon morning, good boy, Mike, how very well. Indeed,

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Speaker 2: thank you. A couple of tunnels that suit you absolutely.

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Speaker 25: It's just good to have a decision made. And part

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Speaker 25: of me looks at it and thinks, I know it's

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Speaker 25: a big job. It's one point two k worth of

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Speaker 25: with a road to build, and let's get on with it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, can we get on with it? Are we capable

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Speaker 2: of getting on with it?

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Speaker 25: I think we're capable if we leave it with the

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Speaker 25: Minister and ZTA. I think the City Council's prove and

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Speaker 25: it's got other things to focus on at the moment,

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Speaker 25: So yep, we'll get it done. We've got to get

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Speaker 25: it done.

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Speaker 8: Man.

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Speaker 2: How future proofed are these two options or these two tunnels?

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Speaker 25: Look, I think one of the things that solves a

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Speaker 25: lot of problems of today with congestion, but the reality

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Speaker 25: is that we're going to need those tunnels in time,

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Speaker 25: and of course you build for the future. Well, you know,

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Speaker 25: the other interesting thing about it for me is that

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Speaker 25: it helps people even from the hut because if you

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Speaker 25: think about that now wrong through to the airport ten

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Speaker 25: minutes after, it's just the whole flow of the city improved.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they see yesterday one of the models, and who

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Speaker 2: believes models, but one of the model suggested that if

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Speaker 2: they didn't do it, that no wrong, a link to

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Speaker 2: the airport would increase traffic or increase time by fifty percent.

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Speaker 2: Would you broadly agree with that?

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Speaker 3: I would broadly agree with it.

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Speaker 25: And I'll tell you the other interesting thing is that

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Speaker 25: development that's going on Latle Bay room to be going

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Speaker 25: on to checks. So I mean, if that goes ahead,

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Speaker 25: you get in the hotels, you get a retail, that

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Speaker 25: whole part of the city might be much much more

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Speaker 25: busy than it is right now and years to come,

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Speaker 25: and this development, particularly the roads would be excellent for.

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Speaker 2: That good stuff. Simon, go well with it, and we'll

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Speaker 2: talk again when it's built, which will be over many,

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Speaker 2: many many years. Simon arcus. I mean, am I wrong

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Speaker 2: or am I wrong? Nineteen minutes past seven to the

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Speaker 2: RV just on the stress testing, in the so called

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Speaker 2: ballooning of I mean, here's what I've blooned out, and

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Speaker 2: here's what we've all learned, because you can't argue with it,

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Speaker 2: because it's statement of fact. One of the things that

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Speaker 2: didn't happen was the mortgage cliff. Go back a couple

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Speaker 2: of years post COVID. The money was in the economy,

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Speaker 2: inflation was flying. It was all a disaster. Three recessions,

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Speaker 2: blah blah blah. People were going to bleed, people were

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Speaker 2: not going to be able to pay their mortgages. The

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Speaker 2: housing market was going to collapse. None of it happened.

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Speaker 2: If you look at the latest numbers, name operating from

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Speaker 2: memory here, but it's zero point four percent of mortgages

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Speaker 2: are in some sort of trouble. And that doesn't even

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Speaker 2: mean therefore closing. It just means they're a bit behind

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Speaker 2: zero point four percent. So, in other words, the disaster

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Speaker 2: forecast was not going to happen. Now, technically, if you

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Speaker 2: lose your job and you don't have enough money coming

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Speaker 2: and therefore the Reserve Bank and going, oh, we're going

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Speaker 2: to have trouble with the mortgages. Yes, is it going

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Speaker 2: to be widespread? I don't think so, because at five

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Speaker 2: And we've not historically seen huge foreclosures on housing. People

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Speaker 2: and that's what the facts say. And I just don't

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Speaker 2: Mind you, when they've dealt with the economy the way

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Speaker 2: the antidote, and it worked. But they never thought past that.

873
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 2: And this will be a soul searching exercise as to

874
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Speaker 2: why not later tonight if things don't go well for Harris.

875
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 2: The sad bit about Trump for me is he isn't

876
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 2: actually very good. He doesn't represent high office well, which

877
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,760
Speaker 2: doesn't mean he can't win obviously, or indeed win twice.

878
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 2: There's a combination of luck and genius in his recipe.

879
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 2: I think he got lucky he faced Clinton, a Washington

880
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 2: insider with a pile of shabby baggage. He got lucky

881
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 2: he faced Biden, who was so bad they ejected him

882
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 2: for another insider. Not so much with baggage this time.

883
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 2: Just nothing your average American can get their head around.

884
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: What I can't work out is whether it's luck or

885
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 2: genius he's been able to become impervious to scandal. Forget

886
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 2: the fringe nutters and what they say. The simple truth

887
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 2: is he is a convicted felon. He is a grubby,

888
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 2: loud mouth with no sophistication, just a wannabe desperation for

889
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 2: high office and power. Not that he wasn't a half

890
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 2: decent president.

891
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 23: Too.

892
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 2: Many of the liberals who hate him forget all of that.

893
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 2: The world didn't end between twenty sixteen and twenty twenty.

894
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 2: He's a conservative. On economics, the economy was fine, if

895
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 2: not healthy. He's an isolationist, which suits a lot of Americans.

896
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 2: Fine America first resonates. My international high point for his

897
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,720
Speaker 2: success was NATO. He embarrassed a record number of countries

898
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 2: into paying their way. That is solid leadership. I dislike

899
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 2: tho as dishonesty. It wasn't the greatest economy as he claims.

900
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 2: He wasn't the greatest president. It wasn't the cleanest heir

901
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: and the purest water. Essentially, he's full of bullshit, but

902
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 2: a lot of the BS is show and the Liberals

903
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 2: won't see it. He doesn't want the media shot literally.

904
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 2: It's not literal. You can't take him literally. Why can't

905
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 2: they see that? That's why so many of them will

906
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 2: combust if he wins. They have no sense of humor

907
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 2: or at least of the absurd, which is what this

908
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 2: race has been. I mean, I ask you, this is

909
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 2: the biggest story today, Trump winning or the Democrats not

910
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 2: being able to win, Because if you want a gut

911
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 2: call from me, I think that's how it's going to

912
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 2: play out, asking blow me down. I thought after yesterday's dissertation,

913
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 2: which followed a dissertation a couple of weeks earlier on

914
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 2: nuclear power, I thought, I'm probably alone in this. It's

915
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 2: not a bad idea. I think I'm on the right

916
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 2: side of history globally speaking, but I'm not sure we're

917
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 2: ever going to get anywhere. And then I suddenly open

918
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 2: up the old paper and Jardin Wealth Weekly. Jardin Wealth

919
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 2: Weekly headline nuclear power is the taboo topic now the

920
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 2: solution by Tomega Research analyst at Jardam For decades, nuclear

921
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 2: power has been considered problematic, with New Zealand having one

922
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 2: of the most adverse populations. However, the global narrative is shifting,

923
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 2: and I thought, hello, Lujah, I'm not alone. I mean,

924
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,479
Speaker 2: don't change your mind. If you want, be your posed

925
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 2: for the rest of your life. If you want, but

926
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 2: believe me, mark my words, mark this day. The world

927
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 2: is moving on. And if you want to run data centers,

928
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 2: and you want to host data centers, and you want

929
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 2: to power your homes and power business, nuclear is the

930
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 2: way of the future. The world has already decided. We

931
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 2: either jump on board or we don't.

932
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Speaker 1: News is next, The Breakfast Show, You Can Trust, The

933
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934
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Speaker 2: D Mark and Jinny Politics Wednesday, after late meantime of

935
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Speaker 2: twenty three minutes away from a You're back to the

936
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Speaker 2: boat in the States. How tight will it be? What

937
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Speaker 2: do you make of the polls and the prediction so far?

938
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Speaker 2: Will it be clear tonight? Marco Rubio's former chief of

939
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Speaker 2: staff managing partner at Firehouse Strategies, Matt Terrell's back with us. Matt,

940
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Speaker 2: very good morning to you, great to be with you.

941
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Speaker 2: There ain't nothing like it. You're fizzing.

942
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 9: It's a big day, no question, it's an exciting day.

943
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 9: Election day is here.

944
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 2: As a campaign or as campaigns how they can pay

945
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 2: to others in mule view.

946
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 9: Well, you know, I'll tell you this is just my

947
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 9: assessment when I'm hearing from people across the country that

948
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 9: I know, I think you are more dowed into this

949
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 9: race and previous elections I can remember. I think Americans

950
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 9: recognized it's a big election, and so I think people

951
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 9: are dialed in. There's a lot of low propensity voters

952
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 9: who haven't voted before or choosing to vote in this election.

953
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 9: We'll see what that means on election night for these

954
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 9: candidates tonight. But certainly Americans are payingful attention to this race.

955
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Speaker 2: Somebody suggested yesterday, I thought it was interesting that the Republicans,

956
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 2: given the state of the economy, first of all, does

957
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 2: it all come down to the economy, the end of

958
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 2: the economy, the economy, economy. Do you think that's it?

959
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 9: Whereas many issues I've always cared about, but I think

960
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 9: you're hitting nail on the head, you know, Look, the economy, inflation,

961
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 9: border security as well if you look at all the

962
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 9: point in this race by and large has shown that

963
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 9: those are the top issues that voters care about. If

964
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 9: you're the Trump campaign, you're feeling good about that. I

965
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 9: suspect simply given that President Trump has been pulling quite

966
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 9: well on those issues. With respect to the economy, inflation,

967
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 9: border security, there's a big issues in this race. I

968
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,399
Speaker 9: think that if this race is about those issues, that's

969
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 9: the bear path board for President Trump tonight.

970
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 2: Exactly so, the theory being that when so many Americans

971
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 2: think the economy is not going in the right direction

972
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 2: or the country is not going in the right direction,

973
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: it's a shoeing for the Republicans. The reason that isn't

974
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 2: a showing for the Republicans is because Trump's a shocking candidate.

975
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 2: Is that fair or not?

976
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 9: Well, well no, tonight, you know, the results of this

977
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 9: election will certainly be something that walk do unpack here

978
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 9: as a nation, whether President Trump wins or loses. Here's

979
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 9: what I can tell you. I think that President Trump

980
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 9: has more of unified GP base behind him that he

981
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 9: had in twenty sixteen or twenty twenty. And I also

982
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 9: think the Trump campaign feels good about I suspect the

983
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 9: fact that they've been potentially making n roads with key

984
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 9: voting blocks will be critical in this race that were

985
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 9: traditioning Democratic voting blocks. You know, Democrats typically voted you know,

986
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 9: and really made inroads with Union voters, Black voters, Hispanic voters,

987
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 9: young voters. If you're looking at the polls right now,

988
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 9: President Trump is doing quite well for Republican nominee among

989
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 9: Union voters, black voters, Hispanic voters, and young voters. So look,

990
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 9: if you're a Trump campaign, I think you feel a

991
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 9: lot of optimism tonight. They've been making some going instance

992
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 9: to night, they've been making some inroads into those voting blocks.

993
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 9: We'll see what that means this evening, of course. But

994
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 9: I think if you're the Trump campaign, you're also feeling

995
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 9: good about early voting. Early voting right now has been

996
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 9: trending for Republicans. You know, Republics been turning out and

997
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 9: higher numbers in this election for early voting in comparison

998
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 9: to twenty sixteen and twenty twenty. But today truly matters.

999
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 9: This is a turnout day. It's election day. Republicans tend

1000
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 9: to turn out an election day that's going to matter

1001
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 9: as well.

1002
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 2: Do you believe the polls.

1003
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 9: I'm suspicious, particularly given where polls have been in past

1004
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 9: election cycles. I think it's likely a close race, but

1005
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 9: there's a good chance that the polls can also be wrong.

1006
00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 16: You know.

1007
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 9: I think there's a good chance that any voters to

1008
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 9: be Trump supports could be undersampled. And I only say

1009
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 9: that because President Trump in previous elections tends to underperform

1010
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 9: in the polls and overperform on election day. I think

1011
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 9: you saw that in a critical state like Pennsylvania four

1012
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 9: years ago. President Bien had a fairly significant lead in

1013
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 9: that state in the polls went into election night, but

1014
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 9: the heels of the election, he basically won Pennsylvania by

1015
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 9: roughly a percentage point. So, you know, look, I tell

1016
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,399
Speaker 9: people to ignore the polls. I think the candid shoul

1017
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 9: ignore the polls and focus today on voter turnout. You're

1018
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 9: the Trump campaign, I'd ignore the polls, focused today on

1019
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 9: turning out every single voter.

1020
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 2: You get, What about the money, the money markets, The

1021
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 2: money is heading towards Trump. Do you believe the money?

1022
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, so we've seen the betting markets really in favor

1023
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 9: of believing that President Trump will win this race. I

1024
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 9: think there's a lot of indicators that you would traditionally

1025
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 9: look at that show that President Trump farewell could have

1026
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,720
Speaker 9: a good night tonight, whether it's just the traditional pulling

1027
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 9: out there to your point, the betting markets again, that

1028
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 9: early vote number, I think is a strong sign for Republicans.

1029
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 9: Any would argue, and then I just think you look

1030
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 9: at the issues and you look at where you know,

1031
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 9: voters view the country right now. Over seventy percent of

1032
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 9: Americans right now get the country's going in the wrong direction.

1033
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 9: That's not a good number. If your Vice president Harris.

1034
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 2: What do the dams do if they lose? I mean,

1035
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 2: how do I mean just with the whites in the

1036
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 2: inference of that question, you lose to Trump, how do

1037
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 2: you come back from that?

1038
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 9: Well, certainly I think if the Democrats lose a night,

1039
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 9: you're gonna have to rebrand. And what I mean by

1040
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 9: that is, you know, to take two thousand and four,

1041
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 9: for example, John Carrey's Democratic nominee, he loses to President Bush.

1042
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 9: I think some of that sentiment debt then, given how

1043
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 9: close that race was, and you know, many voters weren't

1044
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 9: happy with President Bush that election. Some like President Bush

1045
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 9: in that election obviously won that election, so more did didn't.

1046
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 9: But to your question, I think it comes down to,

1047
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 9: you know, just like the Republicans had to do in

1048
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 9: twenty twelve, you have to rebrand or do almost an

1049
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 9: autopsy report and think through, Okay, what is the partying

1050
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 9: to do going forward to connect with voter If you're

1051
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 9: the Democrat party right now and it is true that

1052
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 9: they are losing support among union voters and black voters,

1053
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 9: and young voters and Hispanic voters, if that's true, that

1054
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 9: that's a big, big concern. I think if you're a

1055
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 9: Democrat out there, not just for this election but for

1056
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 9: future elections to come, We'll see if that's true, and

1057
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 9: we'll know more tonight.

1058
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 2: A couple of scenarios. If Trump wins, can they flip

1059
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 2: the Senate?

1060
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 9: You know? I think right now the Senate is trending.

1061
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 9: I think many would argue if you look at the polling,

1062
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 9: if you believe the polls trending in Republicans favor, I

1063
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 9: think there's key races to watch here, such as Montana

1064
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 9: and other states they're going to matter. I think what's

1065
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 9: interesting to note is that a lot of these Democrat

1066
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 9: candidates in places like you know, Pennsylvania, Michigan, they've made

1067
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 9: in TV ads with President Trump in them. So the

1068
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 9: question is, are these candidates seeing something that are internal

1069
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 9: polling that leads in the belief that President Trump has

1070
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 9: a lot of momentum in this race. I think it's

1071
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,280
Speaker 9: a big question mark tradition. These candidates, both the presidential

1072
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,720
Speaker 9: candidates and the Senate candidates and other candidates on ballot,

1073
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 9: there are internal pollings gonna be a lot more accurate

1074
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 9: than what you and I are seeing in public. So

1075
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Speaker 9: I think the question is, if you're seeing these ads

1076
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 9: that they're putting Trump in, if you're a Democratic candidate,

1077
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 9: is at a sign they're seeing something in the water

1078
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 9: that Trump has momentum. Here's what I think. I think

1079
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 9: whoever wins the presidency tonight, likely the House of the

1080
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 9: Senate will go with them. President Trump wins, that's gonna

1081
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Speaker 9: be the case.

1082
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Speaker 2: That was my Nix scenario, because the Nick scenario could

1083
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Speaker 2: be what if Harris wins, but they flipped the Sceneate

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Speaker 2: Republican and she's stuck.

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Speaker 23: You.

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Speaker 9: No, there's there's a chance that that could happen with Harris.

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Speaker 9: I will I will say that just given how the

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Speaker 9: map is, I think it's more and more likely that

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Speaker 9: that would happen with Harris, where you have a divided

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Speaker 9: government here at divide to Congress, excuse me, a divide

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Speaker 9: a government with respect to the Congress and the presidency

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Speaker 9: and the Harris win. But look, I think the end

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Speaker 9: of the day, it's going to come down to you know,

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Speaker 9: voters are likely going to go into the voting booth,

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Speaker 9: and I think most of them are probably going to

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Speaker 9: vote straight party ticket to maybe have a few voters

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Speaker 9: who cross over. But I think if you're voting Trump,

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Speaker 9: you're voting down down ballot, and I think if you're

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Speaker 9: voting Harris, you're voting down ballot. That's likely happened in

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Speaker 9: most cases. I think you're seeing less and less crossover

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Speaker 9: appeal of what comes the vote going to the voting booth.

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Speaker 9: But we'll see. I could be completely wrong on that.

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Speaker 9: Of course, we can have a different scenario play out.

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Speaker 9: But I think the best pat of your Trumpet particular

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Speaker 9: or any of these these two candidates, you want to

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Speaker 9: have Congress with you you can you can't just do

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Speaker 9: it alone. You get it'll be helpful to have full

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Speaker 9: field advantage and includes control of the set.

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Speaker 16: In the House.

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Speaker 2: I'm getting really carried away here. But Trump's if he wins,

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00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 2: he is done. It's one term for two terms. Does

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Speaker 2: Ruby a run and does Rubya? Does he set up

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00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 2: the Republican Party for another crack and might be twelve Ye's, well, that's.

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Speaker 9: A question for Senator Rubio. They have to ask him directly.

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Speaker 9: There's there's a lot of count the people. It's a

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00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 9: lot of count the people in the party. Cena Ruby

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Speaker 9: is certainly one of them, uh, you know, and you're

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Speaker 9: seeing other obviously talented people in the party as well.

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Speaker 9: I think certainly the quote the big question mark will

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Speaker 9: be what does you know Senator J. D. Vance do

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Speaker 9: if if it is vice president of Vance On the

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Speaker 9: heels of the of this evening's results, I think the

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Speaker 9: big question will be will be around those contenders as well,

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Speaker 9: potentially if they choose to run. But look, we got

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Speaker 9: we got to get through this election. You know, a

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Speaker 9: week is a lifetime and politics, how we say, we

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00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 9: got a lot of weeks to go between now and

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Speaker 9: the next presidential election. We've have a few hours left

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Speaker 9: in this election, so you know, we've got to get

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Speaker 9: through this one first. And by the way, hopefully we

1131
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 9: know tonight maybe we do. Maybe we don't, but I

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Speaker 9: think the country just wants to get tough this first

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Speaker 9: election fors if that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: That's the truth, or I might always a pleasure to

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Speaker 2: have you on the program. Mat Terrell, who is Mirka

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Speaker 2: Rubis former chief of staff and so so this is

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Speaker 2: called more throughout the day. Of course, you're in news

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Speaker 2: Talks seven forty.

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Speaker 1: Five, the vic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio

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00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: powered by News Talks.

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00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 2: It'd be promte Mike. Why do all these US commentators

1142
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 2: always called Trump president Trump when he's not the president.

1143
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 2: Once you become president, you're president forever. In terms of recognition,

1144
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 2: they were still referred to a presidents president Carter and

1145
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 2: so on. It's it's part of the part of the job,

1146
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,879
Speaker 2: as they say. Right the Senate in particular, thirty four

1147
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 2: seats are up for grabs, all four hundred and thirty five,

1148
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 2: by the way, and in the House are up for grabs.

1149
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 2: The general consensus, the Republicans have a very good charts

1150
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 2: flipping the Senate. That's why I keep asking you about it,

1151
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 2: because it's not just the presidency. You go back to

1152
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 2: Obama twenty ten, so he wins in Iwai he's got

1153
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 2: it all, he's got the trifector that he's got the Congry,

1154
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 2: he's got it all. And then the mid terms come along,

1155
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 2: he starts to lose one, and by twenty twelve, when

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00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 2: he gets his second term, he's lost both. So he's

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Speaker 2: a lame duck president. So it's one thing to win

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Speaker 2: the presidency. You don't want to be a lame duck president.

1159
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Speaker 2: So if they flip the Senate and Harris wins, she's

1160
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 2: got real trouble. Bit of Trump wins and they flip

1161
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 2: the Senate, that's the trifector. So thirty four seats up

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00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 2: for the election in the Senate, including nineteen held by

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Speaker 2: the Dems, four held by the Democratic leaning Independence, eleven

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Speaker 2: held by the Republicans. Twenty six of those races include

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00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 2: incumbents who are trying to hold on to what they've got.

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Speaker 2: Eight are open seats, so currently it's forty nine to

1167
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 2: forty seven, which makes it slightly weird because the Republicans

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00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 2: have more than Democrats. But it's the Independence that cause

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00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 2: the trouble in that particular part of the world. As

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Speaker 2: regards the House, two hundred and twenty of the four

1171
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Speaker 2: hundred and thirty five Democrats have got two hundred and twelve.

1172
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Speaker 2: Three seats are currently vacant. Forty nine seats are open election,

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Speaker 2: so that will be interesting to watch. So there's much, much,

1174
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 2: much more to play for today than just the presidency itself,

1175
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Speaker 2: and as I say, coverage throughout the day got to

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Speaker 2: get back to the Melbourne Cup in a moment though,

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Speaker 2: what a race. Tend to wait my.

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Speaker 1: Cost breakfast with Veda retirement, communities news talks d be.

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Speaker 2: Gone away from it, so not about the office for

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Speaker 2: Knight's Choice and its connections. Irish jockey Robbie Dolan brought

1181
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Speaker 2: home a rank outside of the Melbourne capp as. I'm

1182
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Speaker 2: sure you're well. We're co trained, of course by the

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Speaker 2: legendary Sheila Lexon, who's with us from Melbourne. Sheila, good morning,

1184
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Speaker 2: Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 17: How are you?

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00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 2: I'm sure? Jeez, you still sound happy? How happy did

1187
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Speaker 2: you get? Did you get happier than you've ever been?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 17: Well, you know what was so special? My children came

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Speaker 17: out with their children and it was a great moment

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Speaker 17: to share with the family. So it was an extra

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Speaker 17: special Melbourne Cup win.

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Speaker 2: I must say it is going into the day. Did

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Speaker 2: you give yourself any real chance or not?

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Speaker 17: Well the funny too. On the way down, John said

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Speaker 17: to me, what do you think of his chances that?

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Speaker 17: When I hear Win and I said that, I did

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Speaker 17: say that a bit differently, I must admit, but you know,

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Speaker 17: I just he'd done exactly the same as the series

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Speaker 17: I've done. He's got the most electric sprint finish and

1201
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 17: Robbie was so on song with him. You know, everything

1202
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 17: worked together really well and so proved to be. But

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00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 17: I must have the odds. His odds were so big

1204
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 17: because he'd been racing on wet tracks and he is

1205
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 17: an absolute duffer on wet tracks. So he's deceived to

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Speaker 17: be hopeless in this campaign down in Victoria, but in

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Speaker 17: actual fact he's running at Bendigo was really good on

1208
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 17: this first work, you know, dry track, and he probably

1209
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 17: could have gone close in that race had he not

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00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 17: met some traffic problems up the street.

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Speaker 2: What's it like as you one hundreds ago he's coming up,

1212
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 2: There's two of them coming up through the middle and

1213
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 2: they're moving and at that point you must know it's on.

1214
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 2: Potentially it must be like no other feeling in the world.

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Speaker 17: Ah, that's right, you know, I had a thim coming

1216
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 17: up up the straight. I just so he's going to

1217
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 17: win it, because that was exactly what the theorial did.

1218
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 17: You know, he gathered a momentum and you know, I

1219
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 17: was quite confident he was going to win. But it

1220
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 17: was interesting watching the replay when that Japanese hours came

1221
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:18,919
Speaker 17: very close to heading him at the post.

1222
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you think you're headed as they crossed the line,

1223
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 2: because it was real close.

1224
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 17: Yes, I did, you know, and I was I spent.

1225
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 17: I was watching the television screen at that point because

1226
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 17: we're the owners and trainers stand it's it's by the clocktail,

1227
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 17: so you can't really see the side on the post.

1228
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 17: But you know, I looked up at the screen and

1229
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 17: that was Yeah, he was quite clear one yeah, and a.

1230
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 2: Lot of the credit and I think rightly. So I

1231
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 2: went to Robbie Dolan, who wrote it.

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Speaker 17: Was one hundred and twenty one hundred ride. You know,

1233
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 17: what he did was perfection, and he knew, you know,

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Speaker 17: he started going back, you know, going down the back

1235
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Speaker 17: of the.

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Speaker 19: Back straight for the first.

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Speaker 7: Time, well of the only time.

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Speaker 17: He started losing his position a little bit, but he

1239
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 17: said they all started going quicker then, and he wants

1240
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 17: to you know, he just decided to wait, which was

1241
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 17: just intuition, you know, fantastic, fantastic.

1242
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 2: It was fantastic to watch too. Congratulations Sheila, I mean

1243
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 2: two times, it's all history. First woman ever to do

1244
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 2: it with Ethereal, the only woman ever to have done

1245
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 2: it twice, I mean records. It's just and so far

1246
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 2: from the outside it's ridiculous. So it was one of

1247
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 2: those magical, magical days. Now Ginny is back from holiday

1248
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 2: and Mark mitchellton a lot of issues to cover off

1249
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 2: in politics Wednesday of course as well, and we'll go

1250
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 2: to Australia. Back to Australia. Appreciate her getting up in

1251
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 2: the early hours of the morning too, by the way,

1252
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 2: especially after what I'm sure was a very big night

1253
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 2: and Steve Price out of Australia for US after eight

1254
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Speaker 2: thirty this morning. Meantime news is next to abuse talk said.

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Speaker 1: They use bold opinions, the mic Hosking breakfast with the

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Speaker 1: range Rover, the designed to intrigue and use talks.

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Speaker 26: He'd be there's a house on my block at Abandon

1258
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Speaker 26: and Cole.

1259
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 3: The folks moved out, Wow time.

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Speaker 26: And it took all the earth things and they never

1261
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 26: keep back. It looks like kiss Harley wh the windows.

1262
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 2: I don't know whether he should have done this. No

1263
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 2: one's a bigger fan than Willie Nelson, but he sounds

1264
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 2: every day of his Mighty Warning. His new album, if

1265
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 2: you can believe It, producing recorded by his son Micah,

1266
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 2: trademark light vocals punctuated by just a hint of aged gris.

1267
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 2: It's terressing that I Johnny Cash Dude American recordings with

1268
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 2: Rick Rubin many years ago, when he was in a

1269
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 2: similar medical slash age position, and it sounded he sounded

1270
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 2: pretty raw, but I think it was better than this. Anyway,

1271
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 2: make up your own mind. There were thirteen tracks. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'll be doing it. I'll be listening it, I'll be

1273
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 2: downloading it. I downloaded about seventy five new songs the

1274
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 2: other day on onto my stick because I started off

1275
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 2: with Wayne, you're still doing that? Yeah, I'm still doing that?

1276
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 3: How many cars as the stick outlasted?

1277
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 2: Same stick stick? Will You're worth me forever? Thirteen tracks,

1278
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 2: forty nine minutes. Anyway, I discovered a woman called Gretchen

1279
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 2: Peterson who I'd never heard of before. But if you've

1280
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 2: never heard of her, look her up. She's quite good

1281
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 2: politics Wednesday Now Mark Mitchell Weathers and it's Jenny Anderson.

1282
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 2: Good morning to you.

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Speaker 15: Good morning, Mike, Good morning, Mark morning, Mike morning, Jenny. Hey,

1284
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 15: might you have to speak? Willie had ninety one still

1285
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 15: the album, So I thank you.

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01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 2: There's something to say. If you're out there doing what

1287
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 2: you love, then then you know you ever worked today

1288
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 2: in your life and I think there's probably something in that. Now, Ginny,

1289
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 2: a couple of things for you. What did you do

1290
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 2: on your holidays? Apart from getting yourself in the National headlights.

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Speaker 16: I wasn't a holiday. I was on a course with Also.

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01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 16: I was a pleasure to go with Nancy loof National

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Speaker 16: and it was really nice to get to know her

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Speaker 16: a bit better. So her and I went on an

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Speaker 16: intensive course for about five and a half days.

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Speaker 2: So not just of course, an intensive course. Where was

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Speaker 2: this course and what was it to do?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, it was in Connecticut and it was kind of

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Speaker 16: professional development and leadership. It was a range of things.

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Speaker 16: But I really enjoyed it and it was nice to

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Speaker 16: know she's got your lovely person.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, I'm sure she's a lovely person. Could we

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Speaker 2: ask some questions about the you know, whether what did

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Speaker 2: you What have you learnt out of it? But what's

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Speaker 2: the big takeaway out of your Well.

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Speaker 16: You don't really get a lot of professional development in

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Speaker 16: this job, so it's a lot about how you cope

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Speaker 16: in difficult situations, how you connect with other people, and

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Speaker 16: how you make the most of the skills you have.

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Speaker 16: So yeah, it was good leadership.

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Speaker 2: From our party and stuff like that, organizing coups and

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Speaker 2: stacking numbers.

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Speaker 16: No, they didn't teach, but they'll tell you. What was

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Speaker 16: interesting though, is there were a bunch of guys from

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Speaker 16: Utah who who were quite high up in their organization

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Speaker 16: and it was fascinating getting to know other Americans high

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Speaker 16: up how they approached issue. So I probably learned a

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Speaker 16: bit more from other people in leadership positions as much

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Speaker 16: as I did.

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Speaker 2: What about social media? Do they teach about social media?

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Speaker 15: No?

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Speaker 16: They didn't touch on that. No they did. It was

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Speaker 16: that part of the problem very much, potentially that I

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Speaker 16: could do a crash course on that. I think that

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Speaker 16: were fair.

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Speaker 2: Now, Mark, yesterday I noticed I listened to I don't

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Speaker 2: know who she is, but there's a woman in the

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Speaker 2: press gallery who harangues the Prime Minister post cab every

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Speaker 2: Monday and the normally unusual questions, and the unusual question

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Speaker 2: from her this week was about the three year old

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Speaker 2: that was left by themselves for hours on end, and

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Speaker 2: Luxem didn't know anything about it, and I thought, this

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Speaker 2: strikes me as odd. And then you had to come

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Speaker 2: out and say that so it never happened. Where do

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Speaker 2: these stories come from? I don't know.

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Speaker 15: Good question. There's Claudiot who's in the press gallery. And

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Speaker 15: that was the first we'd heard of it, and I

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Speaker 15: went back to police and said, can you please go

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Speaker 15: away and check this. Look. I already knew that it

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Speaker 15: was probably very hot, unlikely not to be accurate, and

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Speaker 15: the police came back and provided reassurances that no children

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Speaker 15: will left by themselves in the house. Look, the police

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Speaker 15: do a lot of pre planning around these warrants. They

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Speaker 15: will make sure extra care around kids and making sure

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Speaker 15: they are looked after him there is someone there for them.

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Speaker 15: And so when those allegations were brought forward, I was

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Speaker 15: pretty skeptical, but I went back to police and said, look,

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Speaker 15: can you go back and check on this because it's

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Speaker 15: important that we give an artswer on it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Jinny, how was it when I look at the

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Speaker 2: Maray Party these days, and that question was based on

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Speaker 2: behalf of the Marray Party. Why to Tea said that

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Speaker 2: that raid, we're talking about a poto key and the

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Speaker 2: mungrel mob. He said, that's terrorism and it's terrorism driven

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Speaker 2: by a racist agender. Now it's entirely possible in twenty

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Speaker 2: six and maybe in twenty nine that you guys are

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Speaker 2: going to have to coalesce with these guys. How do

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Speaker 2: you do that when that's the sort of people they.

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Speaker 16: Are, Well, it's far too early to be discussing any

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Speaker 16: possibility of coalitions. And those are comments made by them

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Speaker 16: and they're beast responded to by them. If there are

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Speaker 16: any issues on the ground in terms of how those

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Speaker 16: operations were carried out, that's that's for the Independent Police

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Speaker 16: Conduct Authority. So the IPCA needs to look at those

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Speaker 16: and that's the correct process for that. But you know, Mike,

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Speaker 16: there are things that act in New Zealand first do

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Speaker 16: on a taly basis, not that revenue con Well, I

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Speaker 16: don't know. Introducing a treaty principle's bill without much notice

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Speaker 16: is pretty radical democracy. And I would say that democracy

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Speaker 16: would style style send me automatic weapons. That's Nicole McKee

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Speaker 16: wants to bring those back democracy.

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Speaker 2: That's democracy's I mean what he's talking. All I'm talking

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Speaker 2: about is how do you sort of do a deal

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Speaker 2: with a single issue party that's increased singly, you know,

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Speaker 2: right out there on the edge.

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Speaker 16: Well, it's far too early to be discussing that.

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Speaker 2: I can't say that forever because I'm going to ask

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Speaker 2: you and haunt you with this question for the next

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Speaker 2: couple of years, and at some point it's going to

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Speaker 2: come to pass. Unless for some reason you become fantastically

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Speaker 2: popular and it's just you and the Greens, you will

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Speaker 2: need the Maori Party because they are here to stay

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01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:20,439
Speaker 2: because why t T's locked his seat.

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Speaker 16: So there those are always those are always issues that

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Speaker 16: are discussed in coalition agreements, and we're not in those discussions. Now.

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Speaker 2: Imagine though, what would happen if they were Winston Peters

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Speaker 2: as in the balance of power. What do you reckon

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Speaker 2: their price would be to go into government with you guys?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you couldn't do it, could you.

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Speaker 16: It's really difficult to foresee and try and predict exactly

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Speaker 16: how that would play out. You know, National has been

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Speaker 16: in government with Maori Party before, and.

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Speaker 15: They were also a different Mary party. You had quality

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Speaker 15: people like tiro Off level and they achieved a lot,

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01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 15: they actually delivered. They actually delivered for Mary. But so

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Speaker 15: very different Mary Party back then. But all I'd say,

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Speaker 15: Mike is on the Podok issue is that I was

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Speaker 15: down there a few days ago. I met with locally

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Speaker 15: with you, I have got a very strong trusted relationship

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Speaker 15: with They're completely aligned with us. They don't want the

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01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 15: gangs here, they don't want their children in the gangs.

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Speaker 15: They recognize that's where the harm sits. I met with

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Speaker 15: Dave Moore and Mexic Tour the He's the he's the

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Speaker 15: mayor and one of the counselors. They are very happy

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Speaker 15: with the police have done for their community and it's

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Speaker 15: giving them some breathing space and it's allowing them to

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Speaker 15: have a reset.

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Speaker 2: All right, break more of my Mark Mitchell, Jinny Anderson

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Speaker 2: Fourteen Past the.

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Speaker 1: Mike Husking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: It by newstalksb News Talks, seventeen Past Dight, Jenny Anderson,

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Speaker 2: Mark Mitchell, Weather's Mark. As far as did you see

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Speaker 2: the piece in the Herald the other day? Jinny raises

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Speaker 2: the gun control there's a piece in the Herald the

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Speaker 2: other day saying Nicole m Key wants to do one thing,

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Speaker 2: She's going to have to go through a mountain called

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Speaker 2: Mark Mitchell is there, But is the olngest building there?

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Speaker 15: No, not at all, not all. I mean, I've got

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Speaker 15: a very good, strong working relationship with Nicole. We're both

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Speaker 15: motivated by the same thing, and that is around increasing

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Speaker 15: public safety. And it's as simple as that.

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Speaker 2: Are you able to explain because the Labour Party you're

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Speaker 2: onto a couple of things. One of them is that

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Speaker 2: and the other thing's castello and the smoking. You would

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Speaker 2: argue that you are after the same thing, greater safety

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Speaker 2: in the community with guns, fewer people smoking in the

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Speaker 2: community with tobacco. So you're on the same page, you're

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Speaker 2: heading in the same direction. But they see labor chinks

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Speaker 2: in that armor. Why aren't you able to explain in

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Speaker 2: a clearer way so that people understand that there is

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Speaker 2: no scuttle but or scandal about any of this.

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Speaker 15: Well, it's opposited politics, so they're going to raise it

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Speaker 15: and they's sort their job is and try and create

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Speaker 15: a bit of alarm around it. But all it say

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Speaker 15: is that, look, Casey, is my Associate Minister of Police.

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Speaker 15: She is outstanding and she is motivated on one thing,

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Speaker 15: and that is keeping the rate of smoking, reducing the

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Speaker 15: New Zealand infect accelerating it. And I think she's got

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Speaker 15: some you know, the she she can have more to

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Speaker 15: say on that. That's her portfolio area. But working with her, she's.

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Speaker 2: Going to make some sort of announcements today while she

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Speaker 2: is she's got some details coming.

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Speaker 15: No, not today, but I know this is very much

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Speaker 15: work going on in there and then that's up to you.

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Speaker 15: That's her portfolio and she can she can deal with that.

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Speaker 15: But no, she's outstanding and Nicole is the same. They're

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Speaker 15: outstanding New Zealanders that when you look at the history,

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Speaker 15: they've got a long trek record of public service and

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Speaker 15: being advocates and working hard to improve our country. And

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Speaker 15: that's what they're doing.

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Speaker 2: The m Key one, Ginny, I get from your point

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01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 2: of view anyway, But the Costello one, I don't issues

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Speaker 2: like bending over backwards on something. I just don't get

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Speaker 2: paperwork advice whatever. We're going in the right direction as

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Speaker 2: regards tobacco. We're all winners, aren't we. Why are you

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Speaker 2: trying to make the such a political scrap.

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Speaker 16: Well, the first point I'd like to make is that

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Speaker 16: if Mark says that is, Mark, what's going on the

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Speaker 16: background of your office isn't.

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Speaker 15: B I'm on the fourth floor. I'm on the fourth floor,

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Speaker 15: and on the third floor there's renovations going on. So

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Speaker 15: I apologize. That's right.

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Speaker 16: Look, it's not about public safety. It's actually about getting

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Speaker 16: people access to guns and taking away all of the

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Speaker 16: restrictions on gun rangers. And police themselves have raised this

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Speaker 16: with Mark Is the police minister multiple times. They think

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Speaker 16: it's a real public safety risk that people beyond ranges

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Speaker 16: they can't be checked and there's no police oversight. That's

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Speaker 16: a problem. That is true, Mark. I've seen documents where

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Speaker 16: police are repeatedly advising you that they don't want these

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Speaker 16: changes that Nicole McKee is bringing in.

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Speaker 2: Back to the tobacco, what's the big deal on tobacco.

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Speaker 2: We're trending in the right direction. So she got some

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Speaker 2: paperwork and me who cares, Well, the.

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Speaker 16: Deal is that Philip Morris benefited from the change that

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Speaker 16: they're the only one who dominates the market for the

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Speaker 16: heated tobacco product.

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Speaker 2: I mean it was a tax impairment thing for the

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Speaker 2: gun but the government, we're going to get less money,

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Speaker 2: Philip Morris don't get the money.

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Speaker 16: Yes, they do because they're able to sell their product

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Speaker 16: with the less of a tariff on it in a

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Speaker 16: market that has no computer.

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Speaker 2: It was the only product I have it.

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Speaker 15: Let me be really quick clear. Casey Costella has focused

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Speaker 15: on one thing that she has focused on reducing the

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Speaker 15: amount of spoking in our country, and she's focused on

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Speaker 15: making sure that people have got excess to alternatives that

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Speaker 15: are less harmful to allow them to transition out of that.

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Speaker 8: That is what she is doing.

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Speaker 3: That is kind of problem.

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Speaker 2: The advice on whether they are as harmful as is ropey,

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Speaker 2: isn't it. I mean, that's part it is very ropey.

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Speaker 16: That's a good point to make, Mike, because you've got

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Speaker 16: health official saying she's just googling stuff and she's doing

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Speaker 16: her own internet research, and one of them got into

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Speaker 16: trouble because in an intunal email they've caught it crap

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Speaker 16: And the reality is it's not based on good science.

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Speaker 16: It's who reckons. And when officials are pushing back and

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Speaker 16: saying that this isn't good enough, they're getting in trouble

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Speaker 16: because that the government's got a clear idea. There's one

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Speaker 16: particular company, Philip Morris, that is directly benefiting from these decisions.

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Speaker 15: Welllicis have to have ministers have to trust that they

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Speaker 15: can have free and frank advice. And she was put

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Speaker 15: in an awful position by Health New Zealand because she

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Speaker 15: had the sister in law of the opposition spokes sitting

1507
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 15: around the table. And I mean it's just there was very.

1508
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 16: And you have to.

1509
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 2: Until it became a thing in the house mark. What

1510
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 2: are they doing is a deck indoor outdoor flow. Who's

1511
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:27,599
Speaker 2: down there on the third floor.

1512
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 15: So what So what they're doing is they're just they're

1513
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 15: creating new officers. So they've converted it.

1514
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 2: So I thought you were I thought you were the opposite.

1515
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 16: I've got rid about in the restaurant to give ACT

1516
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:41,760
Speaker 16: some offices. And what's the costing. It's like three mil

1517
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 16: I think three.

1518
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 2: Three million to get rid of a restaurant in the bar.

1519
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 16: Yeah, pretty much put ACT in there. I think it is.

1520
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 15: The real here is is that the speaker is trying

1521
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 15: to make somemize space to keep everyone in the space

1522
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 15: and reduce the footprint.

1523
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:54,559
Speaker 3: So that is what we're doing.

1524
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 2: How can you run anything, Mark with that sort of

1525
01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 2: noise going on?

1526
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 15: Yeah, it's hard. I'm I had to go down stairs

1527
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 15: because I've doing some I had some more interviews, earlier

1528
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:05,479
Speaker 15: interviews and the and this is nothing like they had

1529
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 15: the power tools going.

1530
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 2: Oh goodness, actually shot there.

1531
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 15: As I said, guys, to your mind, I'm on the

1532
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:13,600
Speaker 15: hostitue precisely in the powerfuls.

1533
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1534
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:16,679
Speaker 15: Yeah, they say no probably in the week and we accommodate.

1535
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 2: Nice to think, which appreciate it, Mark Mitchell, Ginny Anderson

1536
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 2: for another week. It's a twenty two.

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Speaker 3: Husky.

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01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:28,799
Speaker 2: Very good update from It's part of the whole stress

1559
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 2: test thing that the Reserve Bank did yesterday. The good

1560
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 2: news that came out of that I've told you earlier

1561
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 2: on they think that mortgage failure is going to go up.

1562
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 2: I think they're wrong broadly speaking, but where I hope

1563
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 2: they're right is that they see better times coming for farmers,

1564
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:43,800
Speaker 2: which is encouraging from their financial stability report in this

1565
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 2: morning's dairy auction. If you haven't caught up on that

1566
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 2: booming so I'll crunch a couple of numbers for you

1567
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 2: directly after the news, just to give you a vibe

1568
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 2: of what's going on on the land, and then we'll

1569
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 2: get to Australia and Steve Price.

1570
01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 3: Demanding the answers from the decision makers.

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01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:04,360
Speaker 1: Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate, your local experts

1572
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 1: across residential, commercial and rural news togs head Beam.

1573
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 2: I'll come back to the reserve banks read on rural

1574
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 2: New Zealand, I promise in just a couple of moments.

1575
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 2: But the New York Times guild workers are on strike.

1576
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 2: The negotiations are just time for the election, of course,

1577
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 2: but the negotiations have been going on for over two years.

1578
01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 2: So they want a four day week. They want significant

1579
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 2: pay increases. They want full coverageable healthcare premiums for employees

1580
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:30,800
Speaker 2: and family members. So far not so unusual. They want

1581
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 2: non performance based annual bonuses that will cost them allegedly

1582
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 2: the New York Times says one hundred million dollars over

1583
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 2: three years. But then this is where it gets interesting.

1584
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 2: They want a ban on centered products and break rooms.

1585
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 2: I've not heard that one before. They want unlimited break time.

1586
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:51,799
Speaker 2: They want accommodation for pet bereavement. They want mandatory trigger

1587
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 2: warnings in company meetings. Discussing events in the news. They

1588
01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:58,799
Speaker 2: want more money for non white staff, they want language

1589
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 2: that would prioritize non citizens in the US on visas

1590
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 2: in the case of layoffs. So they're a cool bunch

1591
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 2: to deal with.

1592
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 3: So also I can understand the center of things in.

1593
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 2: The breaking You just want to smell what you're eating

1594
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 2: or drinking that act.

1595
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 8: I don't want some Glady air freshener.

1596
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:15,680
Speaker 3: Quite well, things I.

1597
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 2: Would ask if I was on striking, I'd actually ask

1598
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 2: for a break room before we scented it up. Twenty

1599
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:22,240
Speaker 2: two minutes away.

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01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 21: From nine International correspondence with ins and Eye Insurance Peace

1601
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 21: of mind for New Zealand business.

1602
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 2: I took this through plances with us.

1603
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 8: Morning mate, Hey morning.

1604
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:33,680
Speaker 2: I took your tips for the cup and I went

1605
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:37,640
Speaker 2: and invested six thousand dollars on the did not and

1606
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:41,720
Speaker 2: I'm just looking for I'm just like, I can't pay

1607
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 2: the mortgage now this week, Steve, look my humble apologies.

1608
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 8: That was a disaster. We did finish fourth and fits,

1609
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 8: which doesn't help anybody at all. We should have followed

1610
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 8: the guy who put one hundred dollars on a boxed trifecta,

1611
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:00,680
Speaker 8: which is where you can pick four horses and if

1612
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 8: they finish in that order, you get a collect So

1613
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 8: he's put one hundred on these four random horses, Knight's Choice, Warp, Speed, Okeita, Sushi,

1614
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 8: and Dozi. How much do you reckon he won on them?

1615
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 2: I thought I read the story this morning. I thought

1616
01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 2: it was over a million bucks.

1617
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:22,720
Speaker 8: Wasn't it three point two million? Why didn't I give

1618
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 8: you those four horses?

1619
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 2: Good question, Steve? Why didn't you?

1620
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:28,680
Speaker 8: Because I don't know anything about racing, and I did

1621
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 8: preface my remarks by saying, don't follow me.

1622
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:34,760
Speaker 2: Geez, three point two you wouldn't it? Not bad day?

1623
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 2: Speaking of money, how's the vibe around these? You still

1624
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:41,479
Speaker 2: haven't cut, But I keep reiterating you haven't cut because

1625
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 2: quite rightly, you're doing okay economically in terms of jobs

1626
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:44,879
Speaker 2: and stuff, aren't.

1627
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 8: You twelve jobs and stuff? Yes? But I mean if

1628
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 8: you're a mortgage holder and you're coming out of fixed

1629
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 8: interest plans with your bank, you're not very happy. So

1630
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 8: the Reserve left it at four point three five percent.

1631
01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 8: It's been there for a year. Quite frankly, it's inflation

1632
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 8: and the Moheur Bullock does not want to cut rates.

1633
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 8: While inflation still are underlying inflation at three and a

1634
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 8: half percent. But the interesting thing I think that she's

1635
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 8: mentioned that there is a diff in inflation, but she

1636
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 8: puts it down to handouts from the federal government. This

1637
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:21,799
Speaker 8: is the electricity payback you get from your electricity bills.

1638
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 8: And she's warned the Albanizi government and I reckon they'll

1639
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 8: go to the election now in at the end of February,

1640
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 8: in early March. She has said, look, the Treasurer is

1641
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 8: quote fully aware of the inflation or implications of his

1642
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 8: own policies. He needs this is her direct quote, he

1643
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:41,800
Speaker 8: needs to be thinking about that because he, like me,

1644
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:45,679
Speaker 8: understands that inflation is really what's hurting people. So she's

1645
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 8: blaming the federal government and saying, look, stop giving people

1646
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 8: these handouts because you're adding to inflation, which means I

1647
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 8: can't cut interest rates. And so he's got that message.

1648
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 8: She's absolutely right. Whether the government listens, I doubt it.

1649
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:02,200
Speaker 8: I mean, don't forget I told you on Monday that

1650
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 8: Anthony Albernezi flew over to Adelaide and handed out sixteen

1651
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:10,839
Speaker 8: billion dollars to payback x debts of Australian University students.

1652
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 8: So that's hardly heeding the warning.

1653
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:13,040
Speaker 15: Is it.

1654
01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:16,599
Speaker 2: Well exactly, Actually, speaking of universities, what are they doing

1655
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:19,759
Speaker 2: here because they're looking at this Australian Tertiary Education Commission

1656
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:21,840
Speaker 2: that's going to be able to set fees as are

1657
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:23,639
Speaker 2: they sort of up ending the whole sector?

1658
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 8: They are because it has been overrun by so called universities.

1659
01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:33,719
Speaker 8: So this is not the sandstone universities like University of Sydney,

1660
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 8: University in Melbourne, overrun by the importation of foreign students.

1661
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 8: The university model is broken. They only make budgets most

1662
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 8: Australian universities by opening their doors to foreign students who

1663
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 8: they charge full fees too. They don't charge full fees

1664
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 8: to Australian students and so the government has warned them

1665
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:54,439
Speaker 8: that they're going to cut back on those student visas

1666
01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 8: and so they've got to redo their model.

1667
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:59,720
Speaker 2: Interesting, how long are we going to run this for?

1668
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:03,559
Speaker 2: We found another minister who asked for an upgrade. I mean,

1669
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 2: this is going to go forever, isn't it?

1670
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:07,640
Speaker 8: Probably? But this is the opposition and happens to be

1671
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:10,800
Speaker 8: Bridget Mackenzie, National Senator who was the first one out

1672
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 8: of the Blox who started bagging Anthony. I been easy

1673
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:16,639
Speaker 8: for getting upgrades, So she said, well, I might check

1674
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 8: on my own, And so she asked Quantus, Virgin and

1675
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 8: Rex Airlines did I ever have any upgrades? As if

1676
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 8: you wouldn't remember? And guess what came back? Oh, Hello,

1677
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 8: she's failed to disclose numerous upgrades to business class on

1678
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 8: two of the three airlines. We haven't got the full

1679
01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 8: details yet because she's going, oh, I haven't heard back

1680
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 8: from Rex yet. I mean, seriously, how can you stand

1681
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:42,759
Speaker 8: up and bag someone for doing something you've done yourself

1682
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:46,280
Speaker 8: and pretend you can't remember. I bet you remember every

1683
01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:48,879
Speaker 8: time that you have. I mean, you don't go in economy,

1684
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:51,320
Speaker 8: But if you were in economy and you had to

1685
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 8: go to business, you'd remember that, wouldn't you?

1686
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:53,360
Speaker 15: Yes?

1687
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 2: I would. Well, I can't remember economy. You know what

1688
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:55,720
Speaker 2: it's like.

1689
01:20:58,640 --> 01:20:58,760
Speaker 9: Now?

1690
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 2: Was sit all the way down the exactlyne The Melbourne

1691
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:05,320
Speaker 2: Cup thing is? Does it stop a nation or not?

1692
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 2: Or is that just a cliche? Or have we moved

1693
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:09,560
Speaker 2: on a little bit because there's so much else in

1694
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 2: life to keep our attention?

1695
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:15,439
Speaker 8: Intriguing question, it stops Melbourne because it's a public holiday

1696
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:18,639
Speaker 8: and people turn it into a full day public holiday

1697
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 8: and all take Monday off as well. It doesn't tend

1698
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:23,640
Speaker 8: to stop the rest of the country as it used to,

1699
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:27,599
Speaker 8: you know, like fifty years ago, set sixty years ago,

1700
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 8: when I was at school, you'd stop and turn the

1701
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 8: raid the transistor radio on and listen to the race call.

1702
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 8: But no, it doesn't happen like that anymore. And the

1703
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:39,720
Speaker 8: spivs in Sydney try and knock it by having their

1704
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 8: own race at Randwick, which you know they throw money at.

1705
01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:44,640
Speaker 8: But it's still it's been going for one hundred and

1706
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:46,560
Speaker 8: sixty four years, so it's a great institution.

1707
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:48,799
Speaker 2: Good stuff might go. Well, catch up next week. Appreciate

1708
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 2: it very much. See Price Out of Australia.

1709
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 3: By the way.

1710
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 2: The other thing they're looking at the moment, and this

1711
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:56,679
Speaker 2: will develop, is my suspicion. So they're looking at scam

1712
01:21:56,880 --> 01:22:00,280
Speaker 2: legislation the Australian government and what to do about scams

1713
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:04,839
Speaker 2: and how much the banks are involved versus tech being involved.

1714
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 2: So the Assistant Treasurer guy called Stephen Jones, he's got

1715
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 2: some trouble for his well, it's draft at the stage legislation.

1716
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 2: There's a lobby group representing Meta and Google and stuff,

1717
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 2: and they're called Digi Digi And they've got so hold

1718
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 2: of some documents under the freedom of information laws that

1719
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 2: say there is an extraordinary their word, not mine, extraordinary

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Speaker 2: level of engagement between Jones and Australia's banks over the

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Speaker 2: last couple of years. So they met regularly with the

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Speaker 2: Australian Banking Association and members of banks to align government

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Speaker 2: with industry efforts. Now Jones is rejectable all of this

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Speaker 2: and says it's a low wall in his words, it's

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Speaker 2: not fair, dicome, and was running a campaign for social

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Speaker 2: media platforms. Now what the Australian government, This is the

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Speaker 2: crux of it all. What the Australian government is looking

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Speaker 2: to do. The proposed regime would not follow the British model.

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Speaker 2: In the British model, banks are required to reimburse scam

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Speaker 2: victims in most cases, but Australia will instead seek to

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Speaker 2: share the responsibility between the banks, between the tech, between

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Speaker 2: the telcos and create industry coach. So, in other words,

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Speaker 2: what the social media platforms are saying is well, the

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Speaker 2: bank should be responsible because it's the banks. But hold on,

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Speaker 2: they're in bed with the banks and so what's going

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Speaker 2: on here. So we'll see where that legislation goes, whether

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Speaker 2: it becomes law, and in what shape will form, because

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Speaker 2: we of course are having similar discussions and issues here

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Speaker 2: with the same subject.

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Speaker 1: Eight forty five the Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio powered by News Talks that be.

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Speaker 2: Where it's twilve minutes away from mine. So to the

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Speaker 2: Reserve banks, so they did their financial stability report. They

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Speaker 2: see better times, a better outlook for the farming community,

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01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:44,920
Speaker 2: and of course when the farming community does well, we

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Speaker 2: all do well. The dairy oction this morning just absolutely gangbust.

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Speaker 2: A separate subject but kind of related if you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean. Look up those numbers just absolutely booming,

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Speaker 2: which is good. And the payout at the moment at

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Speaker 2: nine bucks midpoint of nine dollars is a very very

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Speaker 2: good number. In anyway, where are we at with the

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Speaker 2: farmers improve commodity prices, They like that China remains a

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Speaker 2: risk China, depending on where you look at, starting to

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Speaker 2: show some seeds of some sort of light if you want.

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Speaker 2: Manufacturings back into positive territory, but its touch and go

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Speaker 2: sentiment and the agricultural sectors improved so that's encouraging. The

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Speaker 2: Fonterra payout for the twenty three to twenty four season

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Speaker 2: at seven eighty three, well above its forecast early in

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Speaker 2: the season. As I say, currently sitting at nine for

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Speaker 2: a midpoint. Sheep farmers facing challenging times at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Operating expenses debt servicing has increased significantly. Obviously, many farmers

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Speaker 2: have also been able to slow the pace at which

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Speaker 2: they're paying down their loan principle, so the non performing

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Speaker 2: share of agriculture lending remained low. So in other words,

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Speaker 2: farmers would rather not be doing that, but the fact

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Speaker 2: that they can and are means no one's going bust

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Speaker 2: may provide the sector with an opportunity to reduce greenhouse

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Speaker 2: gas emissions through research and technological solutions. A comment on

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Speaker 2: the climate this was the delay in government policy. Knows

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Speaker 2: where we go with that, but the science will save.

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Speaker 2: This line as being used more and more often these days,

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Speaker 2: kind of in a we told you so kind of way.

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Speaker 2: Dairy better conditions in recent months. The same cannot be

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Speaker 2: said for the meat trade. We told you about meat

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Speaker 2: the other day. We're exporting to the States, well, to

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Speaker 2: the UK, well, depending on how you look at the numbers.

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Speaker 2: The numbers are up, but they're up on a lowish

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Speaker 2: base because we're not producing as much meat as we

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Speaker 2: used to and that's a problem. Previously it's been the

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Speaker 2: forestation business. This time it's drought. So because of the

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Speaker 2: drought in certain parts of the country, we're not producing

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Speaker 2: the meat. And if we can't produce the meat, we

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Speaker 2: can't chop it up and sell it to people. So

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Speaker 2: we've got some issues around there. But overall, the summation

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Speaker 2: from the Reserve Bank is things are starting to look

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Speaker 2: brighter for rural New Zealand. And we will take that

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Speaker 2: nine away from nine.

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Speaker 3: Call the my costume Breakfast with Fleas, real estates news Dogs.

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Speaker 2: They be five reasons each while they could win. Trump

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Speaker 2: could win because he's not in power. He seems too

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01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:01,760
Speaker 2: he seems invis to bad news. Three is warnings on

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Speaker 2: illegal immigration resonate.

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Speaker 9: Four.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people don't have a degree. More people

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Speaker 2: don't have a degree than do In other words, people

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Speaker 2: who aren't highly educated like Trump. Five he's seen as

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Speaker 2: a strong man in an unstable world. All of those

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Speaker 2: you wouldn't argue with too strongly. Harris could win because

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Speaker 2: one she's not Trump. Two, she's not Biden. Three she

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Speaker 2: championed women's rights that I would start to disagree with.

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Speaker 2: Four her voters are more likely to show up. Five

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Speaker 2: she's raised and spent more money. The abortion thing, I

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Speaker 2: think is the red hearing of the entire campaign. Voting

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Speaker 2: on abortion is not a thing, but they ran that

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Speaker 2: because that's really all they had. Voting on the economy

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Speaker 2: is a thing, and that's why he would favor Trump. Mike.

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Speaker 2: The Chiefs remain unbeaten as a result of a coin flip.

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Speaker 2: I watched a bit of that yesterday playing the Buccaneers

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Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs. Taylor was there, just in case you're interested,

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Speaker 2: and they went to overtime. It was an exciting game.

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Speaker 2: If I was a betting man, which I'm not, I

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Speaker 2: would have bet on the Buccaneers to tip them. They're

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Speaker 2: going to lose eventually. The Chiefs, they're unbeaten to this point,

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Speaker 2: going to lose eventually, and I thought yesterday might be it.

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Speaker 2: But I was wrong. But only just that went away

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Speaker 2: over time and on the flip of a coin. They

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Speaker 2: got the ball first. If you get the ball first

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Speaker 2: and score a touchdown, you win. And that's how that

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Speaker 2: works five minutes show the election's not that easy. Five

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Speaker 2: minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 3: Trending now with Chemist Wells great savings every.

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Speaker 2: Day, Carmela heads or tails. I mean, that's all you need,

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Speaker 2: isn't really Honestly. Pennsylvania, Cambria and Bedford they've had problems

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Speaker 2: software malfunctions, so voting has been extended in those two

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Speaker 2: counties of Pennsylvania meantime. And Georgia, Brad Raffinsburger is still there,

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Speaker 2: after all he's been through. There were bomb threats, so

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Speaker 2: then what is it sorted or not?

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Speaker 11: Then we have a few things that happened you just

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01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:48,600
Speaker 11: can't explain, and one of them you know your in

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01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:50,880
Speaker 11: the weed. But in Peach County this morning it was

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01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:54,160
Speaker 11: a call down there, so someone plugged down the space

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Speaker 11: heater that was also serving the county e mass for

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Speaker 11: the election management system, and so fried that. So it

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Speaker 11: was replaced this morning. But those are the kind of

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Speaker 11: things you just kind of don't expect. But very minor issue.

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Speaker 11: Have we actually even gotten some great feedback already, forty

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Speaker 11: emails stead of being dogcast, forty emails telling us they

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Speaker 11: had a great experience. We want everyone in Georgia to

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Speaker 11: know that I've let on making sure that we lead

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Speaker 11: the nation on having fast, secure and actric elections.

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Speaker 2: He's right, you can't argue with forty emails, He's And

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Speaker 2: you wonder why Trump had trouble with them. I mean

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Speaker 2: when he rang up and see, can you find me

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Speaker 2: eleven hundred or eleven thousand, whatever number it votes? What

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Speaker 2: was Braid going to do?

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Speaker 1: Don't you hate it when you're plug in the space

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Speaker 1: heater and take the entire voting system down.

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Speaker 2: What I've discovered about America I haven't discovered at the

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Speaker 2: storm have known about America for ages. If you get

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Speaker 2: outside the glitz and the glamour of downtown New York

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01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:54,880
Speaker 2: and downtown Los Angeles, there's a lot of America, and

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Speaker 2: I mean a lot of America that really is in

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Speaker 2: not only another world, but another time. And it's not

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Speaker 2: really a place you want to beat simply. And it's

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Speaker 2: when you're plugging the space heater into the somehow they're

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Speaker 2: going to gather all the votes together and open all

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Speaker 2: the envelopes and add them all up, and something's going

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Speaker 2: to happen. And that may happen today or it may not,

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Speaker 2: and so we may be here this time tomorrow, So

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty much the same sort of thing as we're

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Speaker 2: saying today. Let's hope it's tomorrow, but anyway, for now

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Speaker 2: there is hope coverage throughout the day. Of course on

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Speaker 2: News Talks there'd be and we look for coming on

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Speaker 2: the morning from six as always.

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Speaker 3: Happiness for more from the Mic Asking Breakfast.

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