1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Andrew Dickets on 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: early Ership with r the Supercenter explore r V successories 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: and servicing all than one news talks. 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 2: That'd be hey, good morning and thank you for joining us. 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 2: Coming up over the next hour. The Aussie war on 6 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 2: social media starts today, so we'll work. We'll have that 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 2: story for you in five The Supreme Courts ruled the 8 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: parents caring for their severely disabled adult children will now 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: be recognized as homeworkers. Now what does that actually mean 10 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 2: for families? What's it going to cost the nation in 11 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 2: terms of disability support? We'll have that story for you 12 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 2: in ten minutes time. And the government's RMA reformers now 13 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: out for consultation, so what was really in it? Will 14 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 2: have that story for you just before sex Gavin Gray 15 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 2: from the UK Correspondence from right around New Zealand, and 16 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: you can have your say by sending me a text. 17 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: Small charge does apply. The number is ninety two to 18 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: ninety two. The time is seven after five. 19 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: The agenda. 20 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: It's Wednesday, the tenth of December, and Australia's social media 21 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 2: ban for the under sixteens takes effect from today. This 22 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 2: is a world first, we're following it because it may 23 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 2: happen here too, And kids across the ditch, well, they've 24 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 2: got mixed reactions. 25 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 3: They see social media as a place kind of like 26 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 3: assessful of the Internet, where all kinds of debauchery happens, 27 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 3: which is true, but that could be bettered with like 28 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 3: regulation over complete standing. 29 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 4: It will be good for people to notice life outside 30 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 4: of social media. 31 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 5: Like everything on social media isn't real. 32 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 6: Kids are going to find a way to get around it. 33 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 2: So more on that in a couple of minutes time. Yeah, 34 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: a new report on a top British spy inside the 35 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: II rais is he committed the worst possible crimes torture 36 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: and murder, and they say he should finally be named 37 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: as Freddy Scupatichi has never been formally named as Steak 38 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: Knife and is not named in the report today as 39 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: the government haven't allowed it, but it's widely known it's him, 40 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: and the families of his victims now want formal recognition 41 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 2: and accountability from the UK government. 42 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 7: The whole point of Canova from the start was you 43 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 7: we'll get the truth. How can you say we're getting 44 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 7: anty truth if that key detail is missing? 45 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 8: There's all, there's always other stuff that's missing because of 46 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 8: natal security, which you have to sort of accept a 47 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 8: certain degree, but that's a basic basic thing. You can't 48 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 8: investigate the agent or the stake may spend all that 49 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 8: money and they're not finding out who he is. 50 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: We'll to talk about this with Gavin Gray. We're talking 51 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 2: about the troubles. The troubles. Hey, and finally Trump and 52 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 2: mister Trump has had another swing at Europe. This is 53 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 2: an interview in Politico. He says decaying, that's a quote, 54 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 2: decaying European countries failed to control migration or take decisive 55 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 2: action to end Ukraine's war with Russia. 56 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 9: They're not doing a good job. Europe is not doing 57 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 9: a good job. In many ways. They're not doing a 58 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 9: good job. They talk too much and they're not producing. 59 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 9: We're talking about Ukraine. They but they don't produce. 60 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: And so to you, Donald's nine after five. 61 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in depth 62 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: analysis earlier this shar with Andrew Dickens and r V 63 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: Supercenter explore r v's accessories and servicing fall in one 64 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: news talk, sa'd be yeah. 65 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: So that interview with Politico, they released the transcript and 66 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: you get the recording as well, so you can have 67 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 2: a listen to it. And it's fair to say that 68 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: everyone's saying it was rambling, and everyone's saying it sometimes incoherent, 69 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 2: and that it was halting, which is a bit of 70 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: a worry because he's not getting any younger. They tried 71 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: to trip him up. The US president struggled to name 72 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: any other Ukrainian cities except for Kiev. He misrepresented elements 73 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 2: of what's been happening in the conflict, and of course 74 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 2: he loves those far right stories about European immigration that 75 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 2: echoed the great replacement conspiracy theory. But whatever, he's the 76 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: present he can say this thing, and most chillingly for Ukraine, 77 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 2: he said that Russia has the upper hand and he 78 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 2: says that size should win, And of course his administration 79 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: has also said the state should no longer guarantee Europe's security. 80 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 2: So really you have to say that things are getting 81 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 2: a bit dodgy in Europe and not good for the Ukraine. 82 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 2: So look, I've heard of commenting on the Malori parties woes, 83 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 2: because who really needs an old guy on news talks. 84 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 2: They'd be telling them where they're going wrong. But you know, 85 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 2: they keep on triggering me to be fair, And what 86 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: triggered me yesterday was the co leaders coming down from 87 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: the cloud Cuckoo Lamb where they live and saying support 88 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 2: for the party is growing despite this week's pole which 89 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: shows that their support is in fact imploding. They say, 90 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 2: heaps of people turned out to their AGM and that's 91 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 2: the proof that support for our party is growing. But 92 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: I wonder whether they can't see that the people are 93 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 2: turning up. It's like an intervention, isn't it. Wanting to 94 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 2: have a word and have the chance to corrow the 95 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 2: party back to some sort of health. The party is 96 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 2: fundamentally flawed, in my opinion. A court has pointed out 97 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 2: they can't even run their own governance rules correctly rules 98 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: they wrote themselves. If you can't govern your party, how 99 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 2: on earth could you govern a country. There has been 100 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 2: no governance by the Maori Party for Mali at this stage. 101 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 2: Their legacy will be a twenty one year old MP 102 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: ripped up a piece of paper in Parliament while it 103 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 2: mates to Dahaka. That's a stunt, that's not legacy. And 104 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 2: then this John Tammahery. I have to be careful around 105 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: John because he doesn't like being talked about. But he 106 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 2: loves being talked about. He is the party president. He's 107 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 2: been front and center. He shouldn't be named the National 108 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 2: Party president or the Labor Parties or the Greens or Acts. 109 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: Mostly these presidents are behind the scene trying to hold 110 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 2: the thing together. But mister Tama Harry has been in 111 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 2: front of the media, taking sides and helping to rip 112 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 2: it apart. And then there was his appearance on Telly 113 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 2: the other day and did you see the sunglasses, The 114 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 2: most preposterous sunglasses I've ever seen, look like he should 115 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: be starring in the Boogie Nights movie. And that's when 116 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 2: it struck me that the president John wants to be 117 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 2: an MP, and he wants to be the star. He's 118 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 2: not the back room guy. And the guys who are 119 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: the MPs, they don't want to be MPs. They just 120 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 2: want to be protesters. And at the end of the day, 121 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 2: nobody wants to do the may It's a case study 122 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 2: in organizational dysfunction. And I just think that MARII deserved better. 123 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: But I can't vote for them. And it's twelve after five. 124 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: News Talk said, be all right. 125 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 2: The social media ban in Australia We're watching this closely 126 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 2: because we think that we could do the same thing. 127 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 10: What is in it? 128 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 2: Will it work? More on that mixt. 129 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Andrew 130 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: Dickens and are the Supercenter explore are these accessories and 131 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: servicing all in one news talk. 132 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 2: Saidb It's five point fifteen has happened. Hundreds of thousands 133 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 2: of under sixteen's over in Australia will be kicked off 134 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,799 Speaker 2: their social media accounts from today. 135 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 11: If you're under sixteen, you're no longer allowed to have 136 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 11: a social media account. Make the most of the school 137 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 11: holidays coming up, rather than spending it scrolling on your phone, 138 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 11: starting your sport, learn a new instrument. I'll read that 139 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 11: book that's been sitting there on your shelf for some time. 140 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 2: Thanks Dan, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, they're all notice. If they 141 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 2: don't clear out the kids, they're looking at fines of 142 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 2: fifty million dollars. Aut Communication Studies academic Patrick Ozma joins me. Now, Hali, Patrick, Hi, there, 143 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 2: how are you? How would this? How do you think 144 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 2: this is going down? Because I've played some kids and 145 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 2: I just played elbow. Talking about the whole thing, the 146 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 2: whole thing feels like, oh, yes, kids, you're misbehaving and 147 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 2: just go out there and have a run. And I feel, 148 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 2: you know, it's it's not going to be popular amongst 149 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 2: a whole generation. 150 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 12: It's not that turkeys don't vote for Christmas. So do 151 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 12: you imagine that most young people are very much into 152 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 12: social media? Many of them dare I say, we throw 153 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 12: this word around easily addicted, but my research actually tells 154 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 12: us that some of them might be quietly welcoming it. 155 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 12: I did some research last year with some high school students, 156 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 12: and you know, one of the things they are is 157 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 12: actually terrified of making the first move when it comes 158 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 12: to real life. They actually do want to socialize, but 159 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 12: the prevalence of social media has potentially eroded those skills. 160 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 12: And no one's saying that all social media use is harmful. 161 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 12: And the way I try to divide it up is 162 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 12: we consume social media, we create social media, we connect, 163 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 12: and we act on what we see, and most harmful 164 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 12: part is the most popular. So the passive scrolling, the 165 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 12: consuming social media has very well documented harms. 166 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 2: I think it's really I agree Patrick. We all live 167 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 2: in the world, and I totally agree, and I would 168 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 2: actually have to say, if you're worried about scrolling, you 169 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 2: should actually stop the old people doing it as well, 170 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 2: because I've just seen so many old people who are going, 171 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 2: look at this, Barbara, it's like a television station. Look 172 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 2: as Jimmy Kerle. Look, Jimmy Kerr is talking on. There's 173 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 2: an oh, look, there's an amazing picture of something blowing up. 174 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 2: And well, and you look at old people and they're 175 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 2: scrolling as well. 176 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 12: Well, that's the good you know, that's the good role modeling. Right, 177 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 12: if you're going to be a parent that tells. 178 00:08:59,920 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 13: You kid to get off social media, then you need 179 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 13: to do. 180 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 12: The same thing, not for going. Thirteen to fifteen year 181 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 12: olds have very different, not as advanced cognitive skills. And 182 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 12: if we can change law, it might mean that the 183 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 12: culture kind of follows, because sometimes you know, changing the 184 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 12: law and locks of cultural change the Marriage Amendment Act, 185 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 12: you know. And this is also don't forget, this isn't 186 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 12: a ban. This is a delay. Always saying it's people 187 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 12: under a certain a. So we're not saying young people 188 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 12: can never ever use social media. It's a bit like 189 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 12: alcohol or tobacco or drive. 190 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 2: Well, how yeah, I get this, I get this. How 191 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 2: how how compliant and how behind it other organizations are 192 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: that actually provide the platforms, because I know that they've 193 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 2: been slowly sort of briefing everybody. You know, this is 194 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 2: going to happen from this day and if you're under sixteen, 195 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 2: you're going to have to stop watching the old TikTok. 196 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 2: So are they behind this or are they going to 197 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 2: try and look for loopholes and can you know? 198 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 12: Yeah, in four something is going to be really really difficult. 199 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 12: Imagine that the amount of advertising revenue that they are 200 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 12: about to lose. So they're already releasing things like jupe apps. 201 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 12: There will be ways that young people get around it. 202 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 12: You can get VPNs, fake accounts. But it's going to 203 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 12: help both teachers, parents and other people to kind of, 204 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 12: you know, combat the if you heard of the idea 205 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 12: of the broccoli argument. So if you're a parent, you 206 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 12: might tell your you might tell your kid how many 207 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 12: times a week to eat their broccoli. You might get 208 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 12: to say that three or four times a day. But 209 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 12: social media can can expose young people to advertising messages 210 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 12: thousands of times a week. So rather than it being 211 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 12: a persuasion game, persuading my young person to do something 212 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 12: or teachers having to monitor it. They can just say, look, 213 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 12: this is actually the law now, so it makes easier. 214 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 12: But the social media platforms are very invested in not 215 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 12: losing this audience. They'll try and find ways around it. 216 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 12: But it is a line in the sand. And you know, 217 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 12: there's never going to be a silver bullet, right, We're 218 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 12: never going to solve these problems overnight. It's a really subtle, 219 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 12: nuanced problem. 220 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 2: Patrick, communications studies from academic. You're quite good at talking, 221 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: and so we're now late, and by thank you so 222 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 2: much for your time today. It is nineteen minutes after five. 223 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 2: If you're looking after a disabled child who's now an adult. 224 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 2: Great news came out of the Supreme Court yesterday. 225 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: More on this next on your radio and online on 226 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio Belly Edition with Andrew Dickens and Are the Supercenter 227 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: Explore are these accessories and servicing Paul and One News 228 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: Talks that'd be So it's five twenty one. 229 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: The Supreme Court has ruled the parents caring for their 230 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 2: severely disabled adult children will now be recognized as home 231 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 2: workers now. The change in titles parents to the minimum 232 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 2: wage for compensation if someone is paying them compensation and 233 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 2: thousands of family careers who receive disability support funding could 234 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 2: now argue that they are now disability support employees. So 235 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 2: the employment lawyer Joe Williams joins me, now, good on 236 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 2: it to. 237 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 13: You, Joe, good morning, Andrew, are you I'm good mate. 238 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 2: They'd be fighting for this ages. They just wanted to 239 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: be recognized at the base level. 240 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 13: Yes. So this case has quite a long history. It 241 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 13: was initially before the Employment Court who determined that they 242 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 13: were employees. The Court of Appeal overturned that, and the 243 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 13: Supreme Court has overturned it again. As you say, rents 244 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 13: that in their status at employees as found by the 245 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 13: Employment Court. 246 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 2: Okay, so what does this mean? Does it mean that? 247 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 2: Is it about money? And if so, do we have 248 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 2: the money to pay them? 249 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 13: Well, there's going to be a fairly monumental change in 250 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 13: terms of how these lividuals and support workers are paid 251 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 13: and funded and how the government approaches that. So the 252 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 13: fact that they have now been recognized as employees, obviously, 253 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 13: as you said, bring them them innimum wage entitlement. It 254 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 13: also brings in things like holiday pay and an entitlement 255 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 13: to the treatment of an employee. When it comes to protections, 256 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 13: against unfair treatment and potential personal grievances. There's a few 257 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 13: different ramifications that flow from it. But in terms of 258 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 13: the funding aspect, particularly around holiday pay, it's potentially a 259 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 13: really major financial liability to the ministry. 260 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 2: All right, but the Ministry can't do anything about it 261 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 2: because it's gone to the Supreme Court. Now, is that right? 262 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 2: I mean, because that's the Ministry and the Government have 263 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 2: been fighting against us because of the financial implications, but 264 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 2: now they're they're going to be forced under the law 265 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 2: to actually pay this holiday pay for someone who's looking 266 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 2: after an if they're on disability support. 267 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 13: Yes, so as the law is currently Obviously the Supreme 268 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 13: Court is the highest court in the land. So that's 269 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 13: the end of the matter when it comes to the 270 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:59,599 Speaker 13: current legal position. One option that remains open, and it 271 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 13: will be interesting to see whether there's movement from the 272 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 13: government is to legislate over the top of this. Certainly 273 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 13: there's been some movement in recent times around contractors versus 274 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 13: employees with the proposed introduction of a gateway test that's 275 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 13: looking like coming in early next year. Now that applies 276 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 13: to a slightly different situation to this one, but ultimately 277 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 13: it's an option for the government to legislate over the 278 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 13: top of they that decide to go down that route, 279 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 13: but it's probably a little early to say at this point. 280 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 2: Now, well, we'll wait and see you and Joe and 281 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 2: I thank you very much for your time employment, Lawyer 282 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 2: Joe Williams. But here's the thing. I mean, we all 283 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 2: know that the parents who look after their kids are 284 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 2: amazing and they are heroes and they deserve to be 285 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 2: recognized as such. The question is do we as a 286 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 2: nation have enough money to actually then pay them these 287 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 2: entitlements that they are now legally entitled to. And that's 288 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 2: for the government to worry about. 289 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: The early edition full show podcast on iHeartRadio how It 290 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: by news Talks that be. 291 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 2: News Talks will be its Fried to an seven. So 292 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 2: today is today. The Australians lead the world with the 293 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 2: social media ban for people under sixteen, So good luck 294 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 2: with that because you know, the kids who still want 295 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 2: to be online will get around it, because you know, 296 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 2: kids and computers. They can't speak the Queen's English, but 297 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 2: they can sure speak computer. They'll get around it. They'll VPN, 298 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 2: they'll forge and weasele their way through the same way 299 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 2: that we all got our hands on booze when we 300 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 2: were under age. And the kids who will actively skirt 301 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 2: the law are either the ones who believe that social 302 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 2: media benefits their life and society and I need it 303 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 2: and I want it, I'm going to have it and 304 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 2: I'm prepared to break the law, or they're hoping one 305 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 2: day they might actually get some positive self affirmation off it, 306 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 2: even though more often than not they're bullied, and of 307 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 2: course the bullies themselves, because the bullies like the social 308 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 2: media and they want to keep doing it. They having fun. 309 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 2: They are not going to pay attention to some words 310 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 2: in black and white written by some old parliamentarians and 311 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 2: a grand hall wearing their fancy clothes. Thanks dad, no thanks. 312 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 2: The kids are not going to be thankful you've taken 313 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 2: away their town hall, their community center, at their pub. 314 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 2: They're going to be some of them going to be resentful, 315 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 2: Some are going to be happy, some are going to 316 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 2: be resentful. And I reckon. There's a lot of parents 317 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 2: who reckon. Social media has rotted their brains the brains 318 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 2: of their kids, so they're behind it. And why we've 319 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 2: asked them, You go, well, oh, they're on social media 320 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 2: my kids and now they've turned into socialists. Just anyway, 321 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 2: look the whole thing, and I think Patrick said this, 322 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 2: it's a signal, and that's virtue signaling. And we all 323 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 2: know how we feel about virtue signaling. The last government 324 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 2: was greater in even if the virtue is a good one. 325 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 2: And speaking of which, talking about virtue signaling, I found 326 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 2: the whole argibargie between the Before sixteen crew and the 327 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: Prime Minister to be a little bit distasteful. It seemed 328 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 2: like these guys were more concerned about who gets the 329 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 2: credit for the posturing rather than helping the kids themselves. 330 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 2: But look, here we go, the messages out there, and 331 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 2: it's a good one. Keep your kids' social media usage 332 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 2: as low as possible. You are the parent, so parent. 333 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 2: And here's my thing. My boys are in their twenties 334 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 2: and they grew up with all of this and I 335 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 2: remember that in them when they are teams. Boys, if 336 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 2: you've been cyber bullied on social media? And their reply 337 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,239 Speaker 2: was not really, And then they said, look, if you're 338 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 2: being bullied and if you're being hassled, what do you 339 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 2: do is you block the dickheads. And that's what I do. 340 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 2: That's what we do too. Oh, and we just turned 341 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 2: the phone off. And by the way, can you drive 342 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 2: me to football? Kids are still being kids, and I 343 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: see them out and about at the moment. They're on 344 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 2: holiday already. They're at the beach and they're hanging out 345 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 2: and they're not scrolling on their phones. But I'll tell 346 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 2: you what the. 347 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 13: Adults are. 348 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 2: News Talk, said be Freddy Scappuccini. I think I got 349 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 2: that wrong. He is the I are a spy. He 350 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 2: was a spy for the Crown, So the Crown, the 351 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 2: UK people think he's a hero. The Iris think he's 352 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 2: a devil. Incredible story more than this with Gavin Gray coming. 353 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 14: Up waiting for the views and Views you trust to 354 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 14: start your day, It's early Edish with Andrew Dickins and 355 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 14: the Supercenter explore Our VS Accessories and servicing Fallen One 356 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 14: News Talks. 357 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 15: At be Love Fingers. I feeling in my toe. That's 358 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 15: Belle nigh Uh. You know the accents singing the song 359 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 15: It's Christmas. I'm beginning to accept that Christmas is coming. 360 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 15: I might even get a Christmas tree this weekend. I 361 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 15: haven't got one yet, but there we go, and we 362 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 15: are coming to the end of the year. We need 363 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 15: to find some way of describing this year. 364 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 2: What do you want? What do you want to call 365 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 2: this year? Suggestions? Not ninety two ninety two? 366 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 16: Small charge? 367 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 2: It ticks me in? Is it the year of the 368 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 2: long grind? I'll tell you, I'll tell you what it 369 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 2: could be. It could be the year of AI, because 370 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,360 Speaker 2: it's certainly the year when that gadgrip became all pervasive. 371 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 2: This year, KPMG have just revealed that sixty six percent 372 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 2: of us use AI regularly. And on top of that, 373 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 2: there's a survey showing that in most places workplaces, this 374 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 2: is done by e y its young. Most places, the 375 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 2: use of AI is making work more complicated, and those 376 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 2: reports point to rising levels of stress and overwhelm linked 377 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 2: to rapid AI adoption. Sixty four percent of employees feel 378 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 2: overloaded by the constant stream of new AI tools at work, 379 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 2: and they say that their workload has increased rather than 380 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 2: ease over the past. Yere, now, hold on, that's not 381 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 2: what it's said on the packet. My little robot buddy 382 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 2: is supposed to make my life easier, but apparently it's 383 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 2: making our lines more stressful because we're doing more. And 384 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 2: that's all about the productivity. I guess now, I'll tell 385 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 2: you what gives me the most about AI, and before that, 386 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 2: the rise of the cloud. It's the pure amount of 387 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 2: computing grunt needed to power these things that we all 388 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 2: take for granted these days. So data centers have popped 389 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 2: up all over the world. I did some researches about 390 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 2: twelve thousand at the moment, but in the United States alone, 391 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 2: four thousand are being constructed as we speak, because AI 392 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 2: needs a data center, and of course it's China. God 393 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 2: knows what's happening there. And most of these new facilities 394 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 2: being built are called high because of their sheer size. 395 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 2: So you've got tens of thousands of servers and sheds 396 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 2: wearing away, and the sheds are hundreds of thousands of 397 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 2: square feet, and there's four thousand new ones coming online. 398 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 2: And all these data centers eat power and consume water 399 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 2: with all their computing and cooling systems. In a many country, 400 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 2: of course, the power comes from non renewable sources. So 401 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 2: here's the thing. As you use your AI, you're helping 402 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 2: to burn coal. As the world is merely burning coal 403 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 2: to power evs as well, we're chewing up the world's 404 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 2: resources to power our computing and then ironically we'll go 405 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 2: on to AI and say, AI, how can we reduce 406 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 2: our carbon footprint? And AI says, I'll just burned some 407 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 2: carbon and figure that out for you. Twenty one to 408 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,479 Speaker 2: six News Talk said, be around the country. We go 409 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 2: Callum Proctor from Otaga. Good morning, morning Andrew. There's there's 410 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 2: a rumor that Dunedin's student flats are being improved. 411 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, well more inspections are being done anyway. MB's inspected 412 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 4: fifty three student homes this year, so they really are 413 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 4: cracking down on damp and run down rentols which are 414 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 4: prominent in North Dunedin. For our students. They issued twenty 415 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 4: three warnings and twelve improvement notices along with four cases 416 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 4: that need further enforcement. And so from that that led 417 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 4: to eighteen gutter replacements, to bathroom renovations and even rent 418 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 4: reductions for some tenants. So those students will be pleased. Look, 419 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 4: MB says overall, they please that most issues were remedied promptly. 420 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 4: They say one property remains under review for possible further 421 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 4: enforcement action. 422 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 2: All right, how's your weather? 423 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 4: A few showers about for Danedan today, some possibly heavy 424 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 4: the high twenty. 425 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 2: And I thank you for your time. Now, Clais here, 426 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 2: what joins us from Canterbury? Hello Claire, No Claire. 427 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 6: Good morning. 428 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 2: Well there you are, Hello Claire, I'm here very good. 429 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 2: The City Council is looking for a new boss. 430 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, well, Interim Chief Executive Mary Richardson's been in the 431 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 6: job here christ Church since twenty twenty three. She came 432 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 6: in after former CEO Dawn Baxendale unexpectedly stood down. That 433 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 6: was a whole story in itself. Committee findings into Richardson's performance, 434 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 6: which were released in August, found resident satisfaction had jumped 435 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 6: to fifty three percent from forty six under her leadership. 436 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 6: Staff engagement had also climbed to sixty seven percent, surpassing 437 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 6: the local government benchmark. But Richardson has made it very 438 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 6: clear from day one that she doesn't want the full 439 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 6: five year term. She says she'll remain CEO until June 440 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 6: of next year and that's when she wants to hand 441 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 6: over the right rains. Council is now discussing the recruitment 442 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 6: process for her replacement. That will be in their meeting 443 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 6: later today. 444 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 2: How's your weather? 445 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 10: Mainly find a bit of high cloud. 446 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 6: Northwesterly is turning south easterly late today and high of 447 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 6: twenty eight and. 448 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 2: To Wellington we go. Max Tol, good morning to you. 449 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 13: Morning. 450 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 2: We've talked about this before, and I've told you how 451 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 2: much I like the city to the sea Bridge, and 452 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 2: I couldn't believe that the council was going to spend 453 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 2: so much money to rip it down. But now it 454 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 2: sounds like this a reprieve. 455 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 16: Yes, we're in luck. This is, of course, the large 456 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 16: timber bridge over Civic Square bridge slash artwork. As you say, 457 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 16: it was to be demolished because the build of strengthen 458 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 16: it from earthquakes apparently got a bit too high. In fact, 459 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 16: the councils were in such a hurry to get it 460 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 16: knocked down before any new building standards were enforced by 461 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 16: their government. For instance, the diggers were literally at the door. 462 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 16: But tomorrow, now maybe it's final savior. A councilor is 463 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:31,239 Speaker 16: putting forward a motion to effectively finally cancel demolition, and 464 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 16: that is likely to pass at this committee meeting. Andrew Little, 465 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 16: the mayor, for instance, prefers it stays the Green councilors 466 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 16: are the only ones seemingly opposed. They want demolition to 467 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 16: take place, and the good news is these councilors don't 468 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 16: have to worry about its future again or the future 469 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 16: of the Connected Capital E building until February when they'll 470 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,360 Speaker 16: take a look at best options for fixing it up 471 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 16: and revisit the budget, etc. 472 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 2: All right, how's your winner? Should be? 473 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 16: Another cracker? Fine northerly, good batting, whether it's twenty one 474 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 16: to the high. 475 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 2: Yes, you've got a test starting today and that's going 476 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 2: to be good fun to watch. And I thank you 477 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 2: so much. Neither written money joins me from Auckland. 478 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 17: Good morning and Auckland and. 479 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 2: Particularly cleanliness and Ora at a shock about a random 480 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 2: stabbing of the by a stranger on a bus going 481 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 2: from gi to town. 482 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 17: That's right, Andrew. That horrific, horrific yesterday, so one man 483 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 17: died after suffering a stab wound and then another is 484 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 17: in a serious but stable condition in hospital after surgery 485 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 17: on his hand. Now police say they took a thirty 486 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 17: six year old into custody in Auckland CBD yesterday. He 487 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 17: will be appearing in court today. 488 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 10: Now. 489 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 17: The Public Transport Uses Association national coordinator, that's John Reeves. 490 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 17: He's come out. 491 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 2: He says. 492 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 17: Look, public transport is usually safe. But obviously, you know, 493 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 17: he says, Look, if you feel you find yourself in 494 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 17: an unsafe situation, you know people should call police immediately 495 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 17: from the bus. Is that's the only way to get 496 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 17: offices there fast? I mean, obviously this debate on safety 497 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 17: on buses is not new, is it. Andrew has been 498 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 17: around for a long time. Reeves is also saying, look, 499 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 17: it's time now get together with government police because they 500 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 17: would really like to set up or see a dedicated 501 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 17: public transport policing team or something. Something's got to be done. 502 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 2: Hou's Hawkin's weather. 503 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 10: Well, it's a fine day. 504 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 17: Another Scorcha twenty. 505 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 2: Eight is the high I thank you. It is sixteen 506 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,719 Speaker 2: to six. Actually, while we're talking about public transport, there 507 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 2: was a fellow who runs the city rail Link who 508 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 2: talked to councilors yesterday and he gave them an update. 509 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 2: Apparently there's been sixteen thousand trial runs by trains through 510 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 2: the tunnels. He says the physical work is finished. He 511 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 2: says they're still within their five point five billion dollar budget. 512 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 2: The last of twenty three new trains being built in 513 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 2: Mexico came up the production line last week, so of 514 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 2: course we can open it can't we can we open it? No, 515 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 2: we can't the link allians who have built the thing 516 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 2: don't hand it over to at until June. And the 517 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 2: word is apparently we're looking at a September opening date. 518 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 2: And the CURL chief executive Pat Rocky, who was doing 519 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 2: this briefing tod councilors stick with us. Better journeys are 520 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 2: around the corner. But boy, we've been hearing that for 521 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 2: a long time, haven't we. It is sixteen to six 522 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 2: Gavin Gray on the way with the incredible story of 523 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 2: the UK spy despised by Ireland but actually a hero 524 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 2: considered the hero in the UK. So what to do 525 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 2: about this fella? And also we'll talk about this rama. 526 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: Reform International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, Peace of 527 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand Business. 528 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 2: Thirteen to six Gavin Gray from the UK. Good morning 529 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 2: to you, Good morning there, Andrew Sir. This is an 530 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 2: incredible story. Is he a hero? Is he a devil? 531 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 2: This is a report into a British spy inside the 532 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 2: Irray during the troubles, saying that he committed terrible, terrible, 533 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 2: terrible terrible things torture and murder should be publicly named now, 534 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 2: by the way, I think we know who he is, 535 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 2: isn't it Freddy Skapatiki. 536 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 5: That's right, and he died a couple of years back. 537 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 5: So why all this fuss and hurrah. Well, basically, the 538 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 5: Irish an army that wanted Ireland to become one country 539 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 5: not part of the UK, had a notorious internal security 540 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 5: unit tasked with hunting down and executing informants. The man 541 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 5: at the helm was one Freddie Scapatchi and he, it's alleged, 542 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 5: was actually a British spy. So, in other words, somebody 543 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 5: who had infiltrated right to the top of this organization 544 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 5: was in fact allegedly supplying information to the British government 545 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 5: all this while though he was overseeing this nutting squad 546 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 5: as it was called, that had killed many many people 547 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 5: and tortured them as well, And some are saying, do 548 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 5: you know what, he actually killed more people than he 549 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 5: was responsible for saving. He always denied that he was 550 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 5: the agent called State Knife, and indeed he died with 551 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 5: it being quite simply unknown, but lots of people are 552 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 5: convinced he was. And now this latest report said we 553 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 5: owe it to the families to formally name and identify 554 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 5: this British agent and to make sure that this does 555 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 5: not happen again where a British agent goes in with 556 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 5: the intention of saving lives but ends out actually getting 557 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 5: so involved with it, or that he may have taken 558 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 5: more than he said. 559 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 2: Well as incredible. I can feel a film coming on 560 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 2: I really care with Daniel day Lewis in it as well. 561 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 2: Very quickly, a man got four packing tickets when they 562 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 2: came and painted a disabled bay around the car which 563 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 2: was legally packed when he left it when he went 564 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 2: on holiday. 565 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right. So we turned up in Croydon, south 566 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 5: of London, left it on an unmarked, unrestricted road, got 567 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 5: back two tickets on the windscreen. Two others came in 568 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 5: the post and he discovered they had painted a disabled 569 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 5: bay around his car. There is even a picture on 570 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 5: CCTV showing the man painting the lines around his car 571 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 5: actually taking a photograph to show that the car was 572 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 5: parked legally, and he sent that to the council saying 573 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 5: do not give this car a ticket. Of course nobody listened. 574 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 5: Now the council has risk given him the money back. 575 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 2: Thank you, Gvin. It is now tim to six News 576 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 2: Talk Sibby. Well, the governments dropped a two hundred and 577 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 2: fifty page monster to replace the ARAM, the Resource Management 578 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 2: Act once too. New laws, one for planning, one for 579 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 2: the environment, and it wants clearer rules and what councils 580 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 2: can and can't regulate. It's estimated this will have the 581 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 2: number of consents. It's estimated this will save thirteen billion 582 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 2: dollars in costs over thirty years, but some people are 583 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 2: worried that the environment could still could get damaged. Bruce 584 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 2: Weir is an independent urban planner and strategic development expert, 585 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 2: and it joins me. Now good morning to you. 586 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 18: Good morning, Andrew, so very good. 587 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 2: This is a generational change and everyone's been talking about 588 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 2: reform of the RMA forever, ever since they came in 589 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety one. So what's your reaction to it. 590 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 18: Oh, it's great, it's awesome, fantastic. 591 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, no downside at all. 592 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 14: Oh. 593 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 18: Look, there will always be caups of these things when 594 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 18: they come in. You know, the stuff about compensation is 595 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 18: going to be a bit of a headache. But no 596 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 18: fund media league people. There's been so much nonsense going 597 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 18: on in planning and people have rightly been frustrated with 598 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 18: what's been going on. 599 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 2: So the very first email I got in my inbox 600 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 2: yesterday after the announcement at one o'clock came from Forest 601 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 2: and Bird who said this will negatively impact on New 602 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 2: Zealand's environments and that there's not enough safeguards and that's 603 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 2: why the RMA that was developed and made so monstrously 604 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 2: huge in the first place. What do you reckon to that. 605 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 18: Oh, look, I think the main thing that I see. 606 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 18: The biggest improvement here is that there's a planning tribune 607 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 18: that you can go to a few if everybody's unhappy 608 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 18: and there's a big issue, there's somewhere you can go to. 609 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 18: The problem we have at the moment is it sort 610 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 18: of almost gets so lid to just that it favors 611 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 18: those who have a lot of money, and so what 612 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 18: happens is that you can get held up. And there's 613 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 18: cases I've been involved with for years, years and years 614 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:04,239 Speaker 18: going through. Those who have a lot of capital can 615 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 18: canstall a process. It's really frustrating even for councils. 616 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 2: No I understand, I understand. I know a number of 617 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 2: planners for them as well. So there we go, But 618 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,239 Speaker 2: what about the risk of people now feeling that they 619 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 2: can put up whatever they want, wherever they want on 620 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 2: their property, and we end out with a terrible cave 621 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 2: creek scenario. 622 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 18: You know, look, there's if you take an urban environments, 623 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 18: what we've done is we've, in a strange sort of way, 624 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 18: we've gone back to where we used to have a 625 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 18: Town and Country Planning Act, way way way back, and 626 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 18: we've gone back to that. 627 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 12: We've said, now. 628 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 18: An urban areas, there's certain rules. Out of the countryside, 629 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 18: there's a different process fundamentally, that's how it goes. And 630 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 18: if you take the FAUMA, you have a volumetric control, 631 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 18: you have a box and we already have that. You know, 632 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 18: you have recession controls and height limits, and you go 633 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 18: for it. You know, build it good it all right, 634 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 18: Bruce Constraint. 635 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 2: I gotta go, Bruce. I gotta gotta ask you. I 636 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 2: gotta ask you a very random question. What sort of 637 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 2: socks have you got on? Honestly, you've got have you 638 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 2: got long socks? You've got ankle socks? 639 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 18: Oh my, don't be a food. 640 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I'm about to talk to Heather and you'll 641 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 2: find out why I asked you that question. That is 642 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 2: Bruce Weir, who is an independent urban planner and a 643 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 2: strategic development expert, who says it's awesome. 644 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens on early edition with r VS Supercenter explore 645 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: r v's excess or resent surfacing all in one news talks. 646 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 2: It'd be random things that Heather through Alan says to 647 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 2: me in the morning. Number one yesterday, Oh it's a 648 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 2: bit cold in the studio. 649 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 19: Is this okay? 650 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 2: This is actually slightly too warm? Yes, but have you 651 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 2: looked at the thing? It's it's broken. I think it's 652 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 2: so you might get too hot today this morning, four 653 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 2: am in the morning, Dickens, you're wearing ankle socks. You're 654 00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 2: so uncool, And I went, what. 655 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 10: To be fair? 656 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 19: I mean, listen, there will be no young person will 657 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 19: be awake at the moment to be able to confirm 658 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 19: this because they're still sleeping in. But if you're wearing 659 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 19: socks that that show you f your ankle and sit 660 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 19: inside your shoe, you are showing your age. It's like 661 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 19: mom jeans. 662 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 10: It's like when Jerry Seinfeld used to wear jeans and sneakers. 663 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 2: It's not your jeans, Mamish, they're a bit high. 664 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 10: But mom jeans are cool now, so now you can 665 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 10: weary oh my. 666 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 2: Lord, but they call mom jeans, so therefore they. 667 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 10: Can't be cool honestly. Okay, anyway, so high waist? 668 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 2: Okay, I give up. I asked the last guy. I 669 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 2: interviewed Bruce Weir, who was a planner, and said, what 670 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 2: socks have you got on? 671 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 13: Just I need to know? 672 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 2: He said, I've got bare feet. 673 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 13: Feet, what have you got on? 674 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 19: I've actually got the old summer birkenstocks on because we're wearing. 675 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 2: We were talking this morning about the kids these days 676 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 2: at my gym. They'll come into the gym. They're wearing long, 677 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 2: long denim shorts right, a random T shirt and they're 678 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 2: wearing socks and a Birkenstock to work out. And this 679 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 2: is you go, that's that's stupid. 680 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 10: Clo No, no, no, Dickens. The birkenstock, like the clog 681 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 10: with the sock has been cool. Listen to me. I 682 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 10: am for four winters, so start wearing. 683 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 2: It's still stupid. Why would you in winter wear socks 684 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 2: and birkinsas they're gonna get wet. 685 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 19: We're talking to Chris bish We're talking to Mark Fus 686 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 19: about the Rmay nice sandals. 687 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 2: Thank you producer kencing 688 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, Listen live 689 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: to news talks it'd be from five am weekdays, or 690 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio