1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Let me introduce you to Mark Cuban, the US billionaire 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: businessman has his hands in all sorts of pies, tech, media, health, insurance, 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: the NBA, and more recently politics. 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 2: Now. 5 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: He got his first major start with the media company 6 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: broadcast dot Com that he sold to Yahoo for five 7 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: point seven billion US dollars worth of stock in nineteen 8 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: ninety nine. The next year, he'd get into the NBA, 9 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: bought the Dallas Mavericks for two hundred and eighty mil 10 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: usd sold a majority stake of the team late twenty 11 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: twenty three for three point five billion. And he's been 12 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: one of the faces of Sharks a Shark Tank for 13 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: more than a decade, and when the Dems were struggling 14 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: for identity after the Trump domination, he was touted as 15 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: a potential front runner for them, but he's ruled out 16 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: a run for twenty twenty eight. Now Mark Cubans with us. Mark, 17 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: It's great to have you on the show. 18 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, my pleasure, Heather, But I got to show you 19 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 2: what I'm wearing. Got to represent. 20 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: Lovely all blacks Jersey. Where'd you get your hands on that? 21 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: I forgot where I got I've been a rugby player 22 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: fan since I've been eighteen years old, So I've got 23 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: a little collection of jerseys from all over the place. 24 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: Mike, Yeah, look you are you are actually something of that, 25 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: not just an ordinary fan. You' something of an authority 26 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: on sports. So give me you'll take on rugby because 27 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: we have been discussing this on the show this week. 28 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 1: Is rugby boring? 29 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 2: No? Fifteenths? No? No, are you kidding me? I love 30 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: after basketball, It's my second favorite sport. I love fifteens. 31 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 2: Stevens can be a little bit boring, right because it's 32 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 2: a bunch of little guys just running around all the time. 33 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 2: Like rugby. To me, you gotta have impact, you gotta 34 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: have scrums. You got it? Like, yeah, I mean seven 35 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: I'm not as big a fan of seven's because I 36 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 2: was never fit enough to be good at it. But yeah, 37 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: I love fifteens. 38 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I see. I find that fascinating because the debate 39 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: that we're having at the moments in New Zealand, and 40 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: I suppose in a lot of rugby countries, is actually 41 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: that rugby league is this wonderful and fast spectacle, whether 42 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: whereas rugby is so slow down by the rules and 43 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: yet thumbs down from you. 44 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Union all the way. Like, what do they like 45 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 2: about league that they think is better? 46 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: It's faster, whereas you know, it's a much more free 47 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: flowing game, whereas rugby is really defensive, right, it's not 48 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: in the taking game. So you get the ball and 49 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: you go into a scrumming and you get down onto 50 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: the ground. 51 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 2: No, I can see that. I can see that. But 52 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: I guess the League reminds me too much of football 53 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: where you stop and then go and then you know 54 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 2: the American football. 55 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: Okay, then I need to borrow your brain for this, 56 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: because you famously turned around the Dallas Mavericks when you 57 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: bought it. Right, So rugby is in a really difficult, 58 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: precarious position where it's just not making money. What would 59 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: you do to save it? 60 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 2: It's hard, right, I mean in the US it's it's 61 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 2: a mess. But you know, I don't know, honestly, I 62 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 2: don't know the economics of rugby in New Zealand or 63 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 2: Australia where some of the bigger, the bigger rugby countries. 64 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 2: But it's you've got to make it more fun, not 65 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: so much on the on the pitch, right, but in 66 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 2: the in the stands. Because most people like It was 67 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: the same way with basketball. When I got to the MAVs, 68 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: the people that were at the NBA thought it was 69 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: all about basketball, squeaking sneakers, you know, who had the 70 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 2: purest jump shot. But I was like, you don't even 71 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 2: remember the score of the last game you went to. 72 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 2: You know, you remember who you were with, you remember 73 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 2: your buddy that got drunk, you remember the first day. 74 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: And I think rugby is fun, but it's not as 75 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 2: much a spectacle when you go to go to a match, right, 76 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: you know, it's outdoors and it's just a just a 77 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 2: different environment now, you know, like soccer football. You know 78 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: you get the singing and the fandom and all that. 79 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 2: But you know, but that's the way it is all 80 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 2: the time. It's pretty much the same all the time 81 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: in my experiences, right, You've got to make it different 82 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: otherwise you just get the purists that have been going 83 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 2: for fifty years that don't want to see it changed. 84 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: And that's what happened to basketball, where nobody wanted to change. 85 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 2: The same thing happened with American baseball, which is boring 86 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: as shit, right, but they sped it up and it 87 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: made it so it's more of a party in going 88 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 2: to the game, so it was quick. You know, there's 89 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 2: nothing wrong with changing the rules in rugby two right 90 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 2: to make it quicker, to turn things around. You know, 91 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 2: you know they went through where you can lift, like 92 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: when I played the way back when you couldn't lift 93 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 2: somebody in the line out. They make changes, right they 94 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 2: you know, substitutions you couldn't substitute. You know, we've changed 95 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 2: the game before. You need to change it to make 96 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 2: it quicker, but you also need to make the environment 97 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 2: where fans are going not repetitive all the time. I mean, 98 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: we Americans look at soccer and rugby overseas and say 99 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 2: wow that you know, the commitment to the team is incredible, 100 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 2: But as an entrepreneur I look at it and say, 101 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 2: it's the shame shit every game. Yes, you know, maybe 102 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 2: somebody gets a little drunker and changes the words to 103 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: a song, or maybe a bunch of crazies come up 104 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 2: with something a little bit different, but that's not organized 105 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 2: from from the host squad. 106 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: So Mike, you, I mean, you've just basically hit all 107 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: the complaints right You've nailed all of the problems right there. 108 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 1: I mean, you've literally explained how to fix it's like 109 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: you're in my head. So when you've with whatever it 110 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: is that you're doing at the moment in America, can 111 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: you just come over here and run rugby if you 112 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: don't mind. 113 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 2: I wish I could figure out American rugby because I 114 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 2: love the sport. But it's tough. Mark. 115 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,559 Speaker 1: Tell me the thing. The latest thing I see popping 116 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: up from you is that you guys are trying to 117 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: get Trump to cut Yeah, bit of a bit of 118 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: a break on the drug fees. How's it going with that? 119 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 2: It's going great. I mean, you know, it's not like 120 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 2: you know, New Zealand and most other countries we like 121 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 2: in the United States, when you go to go to 122 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 2: a doctor and you get a prescription for a drug, 123 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 2: the only question they really asked you is what pharmacy 124 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 2: do you use? You have no idea what it costs, 125 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 2: and you know, you have no idea what you're going 126 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 2: to pay. And so we changed. We created this company 127 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: called costplus Drugs dot Com so that when you go 128 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 2: to this website, you know exactly what you're going to 129 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 2: pay for your medications. And just doing that was a 130 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 2: game changer for the entire country. So that's been going great. 131 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 2: We were up into the right, you know, and so people, 132 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 2: we keep on growing every single. 133 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: Day, and so how are you finding I mean, you 134 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: basically need Donald Trump to cut the fees, right, manufacturing fees. 135 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's for some Yeah, for us to grow bigger. 136 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, I mean let's say that he did it. 137 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: Let's say that you actually managed to start manufacturing when 138 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: these drugs come off paytent? Is that actually a viable 139 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 1: thing to do in the States? Like, can you really 140 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: fulfill this? 141 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 2: Oh? Do you think I would start a business that 142 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: wouldn't be viable? No? 143 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I do think that Donald Trump would come 144 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: up with an idea like that would totally be betshit. 145 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's a whole nother conversation, right, But yeah, 146 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 3: we're we've got new We've got ways that we can 147 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 3: make drugs using AI and robotics that have cut the 148 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 3: costs dramatically, and so we can get there and save 149 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of people a lot of money. 150 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 2: But it takes a little help because of all the 151 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: fees they charge. 152 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,119 Speaker 1: Listen, Mike, give me you will take on Donald Trump. 153 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: What's he up to? Is he just there to make money? 154 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 2: Maybe? Yeah, I would argue with that. I've known it 155 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 2: for twenty five years and he's always been this way, right. 156 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 2: You know, he's a business guy that just wants to 157 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 2: make as much money as he can and that just 158 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 2: never changed when he got an office. You know, there's 159 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 2: some things that are good and somethings that are bad, 160 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 2: like anybody, but that's him. It's all about the dollars. Now. 161 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: I see you flut it a little bit with getting 162 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: into politics. Why did you decide not to do it? 163 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 2: Because I'm not an idiot and I'm not an asshole, 164 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 2: and you know, I just think as an entrepreneur, I 165 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 2: can do more by starting companies that have an impact, 166 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: like costplus drugs. You know, I truly think I could 167 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: change American health care and that's a better mission for me. 168 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 2: I'm just not the political type. I just don't have 169 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 2: the patience, you know. And plus like I'd rather sing 170 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 2: rugby songs after a match and you stupid shit and 171 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 2: you know, and not have you can't do that and 172 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 2: be a politician. 173 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: So You've had a little bit to do with both 174 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: the Republicans and the Democrats, and I mean you even 175 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: toyed with being an independent for a bit. The impression 176 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: that I got from you is that you just found 177 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: them all really profoundly disappointing on both sides. 178 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 2: Is that fair? Oh? Yeah, for sure. I mean, if 179 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 2: we're up to me, i'd get rid of both parties 180 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 2: and states. I'm an independent. I think for myself, it 181 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 2: really depends on each individual issue. I'm not gonna, you know, prejudge. 182 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 2: I'm not going to say, well, I'm a Republican. I 183 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 2: got to think this way or that way. I just 184 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: you know, I'm an entrepreneur. I just look at things. 185 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 2: That's you know, can we solve this problem or can 186 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 2: we not? 187 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: Okay, so we keep business head on, and I suppose 188 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: just your life head on as well. AI obviously a 189 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: game change. But how much of a game changer do 190 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: you think? 191 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 2: More than you think? Yeah, more so than you think. 192 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 2: From a business perspective, whether you're in New Zealand or 193 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 2: the States, there's gonna be two types of companies, those 194 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 2: who are great at AI and those who went out 195 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 2: of business because they don't do shit with AI. That's 196 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 2: how big an impact it's going to be. And for kids, 197 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 2: it's a great democratizer for education, and really not just 198 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 2: for kids, for everybody, like three years ago before it 199 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: started becoming popular, Like you would go to Google and 200 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 2: your search engine and you put something in and you'd 201 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 2: see fifteen links and you'd have to figure out which 202 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 2: ones are you know, which ones are bullshit and go 203 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: through that. Right with AI, it kind of goes through 204 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 2: them all for you and saves you all that time, 205 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 2: which is like having access to, you know, all the 206 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 2: world's greatest libraries, every professor, every expert. And that doesn't 207 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 2: mean it's going to be right every time, because even 208 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 2: the experts are wrong. But it allows you because there's 209 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 2: more than one. You can go into chat, GPT, you 210 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 2: can go into Perplexity, you can go into Claude, you 211 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: can go into groc, you can go into Gemini and 212 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: get feedback from each one of them, which is like 213 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 2: getting feedback from a bunch of experts, and then make 214 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 2: your own decisions, you know. I think if it's if 215 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 2: for any kid, adult, whoever that's curious, it's like incredible. 216 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 2: I love it, right, I use it, you know, And 217 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 2: in business it's like so it's like you can ask 218 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 2: it questions. It's weird sometimes because I ask a question 219 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: that I normally won't ask anybody, But like, I'm like, shit, 220 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 2: why not ask it? And it comes back with good 221 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 2: answers like I had. I was talking to all these 222 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 2: politic titians in the US, right, and it was the 223 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 2: Governor's meeting of all the fifty states, and they changed 224 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 2: what they wanted to talk to me about it last 225 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 2: minute while I was in the green room where they said, okay, 226 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 2: we also want you to talk about AI for school kids. Right, 227 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: I'm like, I didn't know shit about AI for school kids. 228 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 2: So I go into chat. Shept, give me your ten 229 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 2: best ideas of using artificial intelligence for kids from you know, 230 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 2: five years old to eighteen years old. And they gave 231 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 2: me these phenomenal ideas, just phenomenal, and I went and 232 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: I just spit them out and everybody thought I was smart. 233 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,599 Speaker 2: You know, it was great, even though I didn't know 234 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 2: what the hell I was talking about ten minutes before. 235 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 2: You know, you can get information. Now. It doesn't mean 236 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 2: it's perfect. It's going to hallucinate and make mistakes, but 237 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 2: you have that ability to ask the same question of 238 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 2: more than one to compare the output. So I'm a 239 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 2: huge fan of AI. 240 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: Oh brilliant, Listen, Mike, I'm just clean out of time now, 241 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: but it's been such a bloody delight to talk to 242 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: you and you filled my cup with optimism for the world. 243 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 2: So thank you, thank you. I really appreciate it. And 244 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 2: you know I got a root for the Eagles, but 245 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 2: my second favorite team the All Blacks. 246 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: All good on you, Hey, you have yourself a lovely day, 247 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: and thank you again for your time. That is Mark Cuban. 248 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if you caught it, fan of the 249 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: All Blacks. For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen 250 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: live to news talks. 251 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 2: It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow the podcast 252 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 2: on iHeartRadio.