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Speaker 1: It looks like Auckland businesses are turning a corner with

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Speaker 1: confidence on the up. Negative confidence ratings have fallen twenty points.

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Speaker 1: They are now at forty four. Forty four percent. More

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Speaker 1: than half of them expect the New Zealand economy to improve.

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Speaker 1: In Simon Bridges, the Auckland Business Chamber chief executives with

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Speaker 1: us Allo Simon.

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Speaker 2: Hi evening here that so, I mean these numbers are

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Speaker 2: god a like.

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Speaker 1: You've got negative confidence going from sixty four down to

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Speaker 1: forty four. You've got neutral sentiment climbing up twelve points,

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Speaker 1: however many to thirty nine. You've got fifty four percent

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Speaker 1: of them now saying that the New Zealand economy is

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Speaker 1: going to improve. That's the one that's up twelve points.

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Speaker 1: What's caused this?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I look, I think they are good. I think

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Speaker 2: you know, it's no rockstar economy, no one's saying that.

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Speaker 2: But I think what you're seeing is future sort of

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Speaker 2: beliefs and intentions from business people in Auckland, and the

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Speaker 2: economy is that it's looking better. And I suppose you say, well,

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Speaker 2: what's causing that? I mean it's fundamentals, isn't it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you've got around the rest of the country. Farmers with

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Speaker 2: a big payout from Fonterra, record price as a low dollar,

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Speaker 2: So that's sort of at a level, got to start

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Speaker 2: filtering through. You've got the ocr coming down. It's gone

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Speaker 2: from being a tough gig to being you know, quite

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Speaker 2: stimulatory on the economy. And I think they can just see,

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Speaker 2: you know, whether it's some of the stuff the government

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Speaker 2: has been doing, or I think they've picked up the

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Speaker 2: pace a bit on their policy instead of other initiatives.

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Speaker 2: For Auckland, it's just starting to feel a bit better

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Speaker 2: and they can see that over the next year it

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Speaker 2: is going to get a bit better. So, you know,

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Speaker 2: some of the numbers right now they're still not great.

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Speaker 2: But as I say forward intentions, you know, a clear

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Speaker 2: majority see the economy improving over the next year. They

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Speaker 2: see revenue up over the next year. They're going to

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Speaker 2: make more investment over the next year.

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Speaker 1: What are the things that are still concerning.

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Speaker 2: Them though, Oh well, there's definitely things that consume them. Look,

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Speaker 2: it's a sense of lack of demand, of consumer sentiment

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Speaker 2: that that's still pretty poor. It's stuff around productivy and growth.

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Speaker 2: They're not sort of seeing that years it's their own

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Speaker 2: cash flow, it's their own ability to pay you off

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Speaker 2: the back of that kind of lack of consumer confidence

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Speaker 2: and lack of growth. And then it's down the list

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Speaker 2: a little, but it's still inflation that's there. It's still

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Speaker 2: a sense that the world in terms of trade and

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Speaker 2: geopolitics is pretty tough.

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Speaker 1: What's your feeling do you think that next year is

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Speaker 1: going to be a rawer? You know, come, let's say

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Speaker 1: election time next year. Are we going to be absolutely

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Speaker 1: going for it or is it still going to be

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Speaker 1: a hard grind?

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Speaker 2: Well, I've written a terrific column on this Afrano Sullivan

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Speaker 2: and enz ed me for next week. I have to say,

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Speaker 2: and just to give you a preview on it, I

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Speaker 2: think what I would say is it's I'm realistically optimistic, right, So, well,

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Speaker 2: what I mean is, you know, I think some of

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Speaker 2: the bank economists are talking three plus percent. I don't

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Speaker 2: buy that. I mean, there's a number of factors there

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Speaker 2: that say it to be a bit tough than that.

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Speaker 2: You've got a close election, which in the end actually

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Speaker 2: means a period where people kind of pull back a bit.

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Speaker 2: You've got the potential stock market crash in the United

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Speaker 2: States at some time. You've got a bunch of other factors.

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Speaker 2: But I still say on those fundamentals I mentioned earlier

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Speaker 2: on a CRL and an international convention, see to some

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Speaker 2: of these things. It is slowly going to grind its

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Speaker 2: way out. But I think, for heaven, wait for twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: Are you going to tell me how you got onto

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Speaker 1: the snake pitt Metallica or not? I text you and

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Speaker 1: you have left it on red.

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Speaker 2: What I'm going to tell you is it was outstanding.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it was like a three D moving movie.

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Speaker 2: You could see these guys sweating, you could see their facials,

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Speaker 2: and I could tell you, for some old codges, they

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Speaker 2: were really enjoying it, and they brought their best to this.

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Speaker 2: I think the other thing I was just saying off here, Laura,

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Speaker 2: is I don't know what I expected. I wondered if

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Speaker 2: it would be kind of bogans and leather vests and

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Speaker 2: here suits. It was a decidedly middle class affair. You know.

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Speaker 2: So if you were in that snake pit, you're of

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Speaker 2: a certain age, a certain vintage, and you weren't necessarily

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Speaker 2: a boke.

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Speaker 1: Well hold on, because you were there. You were there.

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Speaker 1: Tiger Whitey's he was there, and the drummer from Tool

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Speaker 1: was there.

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Speaker 2: He was he was about a meter from me. I

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Speaker 2: didn't know him from Adam. I'm not a big Tool guy,

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Speaker 2: and they obviously played in the weekend. But the chap

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Speaker 2: next to me pointed out that was drummer of Tool,

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Speaker 2: and suddenly I felt like I was quite kind of

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Speaker 2: v v I P. Well, yeah, I mean it was amazing.

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Speaker 1: I looked at the list and went, what the hell

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Speaker 1: are you doing there? But I mean, having said that

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Speaker 1: you you can play the drums like reasonably, okay, so

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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 2: You're based on m I would love to tell you

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Speaker 2: that that's that's the basis on which I was at

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Speaker 2: the snake pit. But no, I mean, in the end,

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Speaker 2: that's none of your business here there. I'm a private

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Speaker 2: citizen who's entitled to be there. That's more like doing

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Speaker 2: it very very much.

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Speaker 1: The sass I want from you, Simon. I love it. Now. Listen, Simon,

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Speaker 1: I kind of m' be like, oh, do I do

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Speaker 1: this or do I not do this? I'm going to

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Speaker 1: do this. Yeah, do they go for Chris Bishop?

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Speaker 2: Uh lot coming? The Primeister is saying, you know, no way,

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Speaker 2: and it's it's all good stuff. And and you know

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Speaker 2: I take them as weird in that. I mean, what

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Speaker 2: I would say is I had that ship for years

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Speaker 2: on end from a more experienced, harder press gallery. That

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Speaker 2: or I say, it's not massive fun, It doesn't help

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Speaker 2: a party, and you know they need to sort it

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Speaker 2: out quite quickly so that you know, the youngder is

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Speaker 2: going to get back to focusing on the policies and

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Speaker 2: that growth that we're looking for in twenty six twelves.

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Speaker 1: Right, yeah, okay, I'm loving the sassy Breen Simon. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Simon Bridget's Chief executive Auckland Business Chamber.

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