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Speaker 1: The Royal Commission into Abuse in State and Faith based

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Speaker 1: Care dropped an hour ago, and as you know, it

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Speaker 1: is grim. It estimates two hundred thousand key we kids

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Speaker 1: and young people and adults were abused in care between

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Speaker 1: nineteen fifty and twenty nineteen. That's almost one in three

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Speaker 1: who were in this care. The Commission found they were

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Speaker 1: exposed to unimaginable and widespread abuse physical, emotional, mental, and sexual.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Erica Stanford is the minister responsible for the government's response. Higherica, Hello,

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Speaker 1: how are you? I'm good? Thank you? Have you read

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Speaker 1: the report?

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Speaker 2: I have read the report. I've read all of the

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Speaker 2: stories and they are harrowing the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: Did you read all three thousand pages? I have.

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Speaker 2: It's what k I'm the lead minister and that's my job,

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Speaker 2: and I know that my colleagues are making their way

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Speaker 2: through the report as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how tough did you find reading this stuff?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Look, it's incredibly harrowing. But you know, as I'm

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Speaker 2: reading it, I think to myself, I only have to

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Speaker 2: read this and do my job and making sure that

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Speaker 2: we usher this through the process. These people actually went

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Speaker 2: through it. You know, it's hard to imagine the horrors

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Speaker 2: that they encountered.

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Speaker 1: Do you agree with Chris Luxe and this looks like torture.

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Speaker 2: There are some things that Christoph lux And will say

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Speaker 2: about torture, and I'll leave that to him.

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Speaker 1: Is this stuff still happening at the most extreme level?

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Speaker 1: I mean, the most extreme stuff that we've read about

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Speaker 1: in the report is sex trafficking, letting members of the

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Speaker 1: public come in and pay money and abuse the kids, torture,

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Speaker 1: you know, unnecessary injections. Is that kind of stuff still

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Speaker 1: going on.

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Speaker 2: One of the things when you read the report that

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Speaker 2: is quite dark is some of the things you read

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Speaker 2: you realize are mirrored and reports that you read today.

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Speaker 2: So if you think about the young people and Tambaikikia

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Speaker 2: who are being encouraged to fight and being filmed by

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Speaker 2: the staff, and the staff are untrained, that is a

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Speaker 2: story you could read in the report from you forty

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Speaker 2: years ago. It's still happening today in some pockets. And

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Speaker 2: so while we have come a long way, there is

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Speaker 2: a lot more that we can do. We must do better.

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Speaker 1: As hard as we may try, can we ever really

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Speaker 1: stop the stuff happening to kids? Because ultimately, it doesn't

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Speaker 1: matter whether these people are their parents, foster parents working

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Speaker 1: in state care. As long as you've got bad adults,

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Speaker 1: this will happen. Can you really ever stop it?

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Speaker 2: We can do our very best to make sure that

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Speaker 2: the systems and processes that are in place are as

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Speaker 2: strong as they possibly can be, and that the oversight

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Speaker 2: and accountability is there. That is our job. But you

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Speaker 2: are right, there are individuals in this story as well,

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Speaker 2: and actually it's on all of us, just a state,

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Speaker 2: but all of us to make sure that we all

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Speaker 2: do better.

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Speaker 1: So what do we do.

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Speaker 2: Well? My job, as I says, to lead that the

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Speaker 2: other nine ministers who are involved. The first thing we

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Speaker 2: have to do is get the redress part underway and

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Speaker 2: complete it as quickly as we can. The Crown response

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Speaker 2: so the Commission report has said that we need to

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Speaker 2: prioritize redress and that is what we were doing. We're

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Speaker 2: taking a number of cabinet papers and we have decisions

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Speaker 2: by the end of the day.

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Speaker 1: I mean, are you considering direct payments to people as

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Speaker 1: compensation for what they've been through.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of things that we're considering. The Design

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Speaker 2: Redress Group, who are made up of survivors, have given

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Speaker 2: us one hundred and thirty page report with another ninety

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Speaker 2: seven I think recommendations that are very innovative, and you

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Speaker 2: know that they are very unique and it's going to

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Speaker 2: take us a long time to work our way through those,

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Speaker 2: but they are survivor led and will take those into consideration.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of different things from services to payments

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Speaker 2: and all sorts.

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Speaker 1: Could cost us a lot of money.

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Speaker 2: Ah well, as a Prime minister said today, we're not

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Speaker 2: thinking about that. First principles, what's the right thing to do,

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Speaker 2: what are the right systems and process to set up

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Speaker 2: to get there, and then we will think about that later.

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Speaker 1: I know that you kind of limited what you can

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Speaker 1: say about redress and acting on recommendations because that's a

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Speaker 1: process you have to go through now that you've got

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Speaker 1: the report. But are you considering shutting ot down?

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Speaker 2: That is, as you know, my portfolio, and something you'll

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Speaker 2: need to speak to other ministers about. And it's not

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Speaker 2: something that we've.

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Speaker 1: Discussed because we're already shutting it down, aren't we. I

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Speaker 1: mean we're giving fifty percent of its funding a way

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Speaker 1: to community based organizations and treaty partners, we found out yesterday,

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Speaker 1: so there's already a path.

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Speaker 2: There There's lots of different ways of making sure that

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Speaker 2: kids are getting the support and care that they need,

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Speaker 2: and we'll well look at all of those, but also

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Speaker 2: for those who are currently or an automody you care,

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Speaker 2: we need to make sure we're strengthening accountability and report

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Speaker 2: trapping and care of those kids now are the most

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Speaker 2: vulnerable kids in our way.

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Speaker 1: Totally, Erica, thank you very much for your time. ID appreciate.

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Speaker 1: Is Erica Stanford, the minister responsible for the government's response.

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