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Speaker 1: For all the positive news we've had about crime and

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Speaker 1: statistics lately, a little bit of a setback for Auckland anyway,

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Speaker 1: eight hundred and seventy nine gun related efenses this year.

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Speaker 1: Only two percent of those involved legal weapons. The risk

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Speaker 1: were illegal and not just illegal weapons. But gun crime

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Speaker 1: generally is up. The Assistant Commission of four Auckland sam

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Speaker 1: oils with us on this same morning, Mike, are things

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Speaker 1: going wrong?

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Speaker 2: No, Look, any gun violence in our communities are acceptable,

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Speaker 2: and look at these. These crime stats represent everything around

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Speaker 2: gun offending, from bigutary offenses that went into really serious

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Speaker 2: stuff at the other any increases of bad things. Some

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Speaker 2: of it is a product of our effort. We've all

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Speaker 2: seen the pictures at the end of a termination of

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Speaker 2: a job on gangs or organized crime members and the

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Speaker 2: steps of guns, money, and mess. The more that we do,

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Speaker 2: the more guns we're going to find. So it's a

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Speaker 2: mixture of what's going on in the environments. The mixture

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Speaker 2: very in this space as well against organized crime.

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Speaker 1: Okay, is it all or virtually all gangs?

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Speaker 2: A lot of it is, but it's not all gangs,

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Speaker 2: as it covers the whole game, but from teenagers playing

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Speaker 2: with imitation weapons or esoft weapons through to the really

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Speaker 2: high end stuff. So we're seeing it right across the spectrum.

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Speaker 1: Okay, does this have anything or will it have anything

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Speaker 1: to do with the gun reform and the debate we're

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Speaker 1: having in this country at the moment. Do you have

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Speaker 1: fears around any of that that it's going to get

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Speaker 1: worse or better or it's not going to make any difference.

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Speaker 2: Look, we've been clear with this government in previous governments

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Speaker 2: that we think the France industry is important. That's been

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Speaker 2: implemented now that helps us track the life of these guns,

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Speaker 2: so when we find them at gangpads, we you know,

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Speaker 2: we will know in the future who lasts and awfully

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Speaker 2: hell of that weapon, where it should be, which the

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Speaker 2: are important at the life of that weapon in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: That helps us with series and patterns and understands how

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Speaker 2: they're sourcing these weapons.

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Speaker 1: All right, Sam, appreciate your INSIGHTE Sam Hoyle, who's the

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Speaker 1: Police Assistant Commissioner for Auckland. For more from the Mic

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