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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks a'b.

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Speaker 2: It's time to catch up with our sustainability expert. Kate

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Speaker 2: Hall is with us this morning, Guilder Morning Jack. So

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Speaker 2: your daughter is four and a half months old. I

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Speaker 2: feel like we are far enough through this journey, not

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Speaker 2: that you don't have a wee way to go. Still

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Speaker 2: to check in and see how your plan around nappies

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Speaker 2: and communication with your daughter is working out, because it's

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Speaker 2: fair to say that you took on a pretty brave stance.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I mean I had high hopes and I

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Speaker 3: was prepared. I have some disposal nappies and I was like,

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Speaker 3: I'll use these if I need to if it all

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Speaker 3: gets too much. But I have done nappies since day one,

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Speaker 3: along with elimination communication. But yeah, I guess like I

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Speaker 3: was counting it up the other day and I have

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Speaker 3: saved probably over a thousand now and Sony in four

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Speaker 3: and a half months. Oh my god, I suppose all

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Speaker 3: nappies from them.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so very quickly before we get onto the nappies,

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Speaker 2: how is the elimination communication going.

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Speaker 3: It's actually I'm on like currently a winning streak.

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Speaker 2: So this is just a remind you of one. This

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Speaker 2: is when you you, you and your daughter basically communicate

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Speaker 2: and you hold her over the toilet, right.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yep, So since day one, I've just offered the

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Speaker 3: potty to her, so okay, yeah, a little potty or

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Speaker 3: over a toilet, or just to catch you're catching it

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Speaker 3: rather than catching it in a nappy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, So.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, My winning streak at the moment is I've gone

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Speaker 3: thirteen days now without having to change a pooh nappy.

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Speaker 3: So that means every time I've heard her make her

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Speaker 3: little pooh sounds or watch her face or I genuinely

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Speaker 3: just offer it to her at normal times. But people

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Speaker 3: would want to go to the toilet too, like when

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Speaker 3: you first wake up or after a meal, or if

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Speaker 3: I hear her honey rumble. Yes, so I have not.

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Speaker 3: I have to just don't deal with it much.

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Speaker 2: Per That's incredible. Thirteen days and four and a half months.

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Speaker 2: Good for you, k. Honestly, there's just I really like you.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's blown me away as well, like there's no

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I just sounded too good to be true,

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Speaker 3: but also sounded very natural to me when I heard

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Speaker 3: about it so wells.

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Speaker 2: How they I mean, it's how everyone else survived right

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Speaker 2: before before we had reusable nappies. Yeah, yeah, and I'm

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Speaker 2: sure there's been a few, you know, incidents, but I mean.

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Speaker 3: And there's cultures that still exist, like it's not really

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Speaker 3: we call it elimination communication, but it's not. That's kind

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Speaker 3: of a fancy term that we called it in this

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Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's cultures who you can't actually buy a

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Speaker 3: big pack of nappies there because that's just not what

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Speaker 3: they do, and the kids have like crotchless pants and

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Speaker 3: different things like that. It's it's actually on the elimination

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Speaker 3: communication as people's you know, standard way of doing things.

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Speaker 2: And when you when you've nailed the elimination communication as

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Speaker 2: you seem to have done, it means that reusable nappies

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Speaker 2: are an even better option, right, So talk us through

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Speaker 2: your reusable nappy journey.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so they it appairs really well together. Reasonal nappi

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Speaker 3: is an elimination communication because you're not having to wash

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Speaker 3: as many So I yeah, I all of my nappies,

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Speaker 3: most of them are sick in hands. There's a great

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Speaker 3: market there for secondhand reasonable nappies, and I guess mainly

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Speaker 3: it's about how to wash them and being familiar with them.

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Speaker 3: So I started learning about reasonable nappies like months before

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Speaker 3: Orchard was born, and just like putting them on soft toysn't,

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Speaker 3: you know, practicing how to use them because some of

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Speaker 3: them do just feel like you use in a disposal nappy.

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Speaker 3: That's about crow, which is really cool. I'd recommend that

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Speaker 3: to people who are first starting out because it's you know,

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Speaker 3: you don't have to deal with all the little domes

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Speaker 3: and everything, which could be quite overwhelming. But yeah, we

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Speaker 3: use I know, six to eight resinal nappies in a day,

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Speaker 3: depends on how good I've been with catching her wheeze.

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Speaker 3: I mean poos now seem to be dealt with, But yeah,

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Speaker 3: how to wash them. I'll take you through my washing routine,

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Speaker 3: because I mean that's a really big one that freaks

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Speaker 3: people out and you can feel overwhelming for when you

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Speaker 3: know that is the extra step. It is more work.

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Speaker 3: Like I think some people go, oh, it's so easy,

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Speaker 3: just do it, but it's more work. You know, at

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Speaker 3: the end of the day, I have had moments of

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Speaker 3: oh my gosh, okay, so I have to stuff most

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Speaker 3: of minor pockets stuff an insert into a shell, and

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Speaker 3: so that's something a task I have to do, you know,

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Speaker 3: in the evenings or so. It does take my work,

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Speaker 3: but honestly it means we've saved a lot of money

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Speaker 3: so we don't have to buy soznapi and getting a

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Speaker 3: whole lot second hand is great. But in terms of

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Speaker 3: washing them, I put them through two cycles so they

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Speaker 3: are very clean. It is very hygienic way of doing Neppi's.

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Speaker 3: I put them through a hot, like sixty degree wash first,

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Speaker 3: and then I put them through a mainwash. And because

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Speaker 3: they're already washed, that mainwash can also contain like orchards,

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Speaker 3: clothes and just little bits and bobs, and it's a

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Speaker 3: fully degree wash and quite a high spin as well,

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Speaker 3: so you really get like, so.

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Speaker 2: You are really getting in there, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you really gotta get there, and they are there.

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Speaker 3: I've taken that method of washing from Clean Class Nappi's Guide,

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Speaker 3: which you can find online. It's a really great, like

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Speaker 3: scientifically backed way of you know, cleaning nappies and dealing

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Speaker 3: with nappies. I've got all sorts of tips, so that's really.

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Speaker 2: Helpful, fantastic. How do you have any brands, given you've

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Speaker 2: done so much research, any brands that you recommend.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've tried about ten different brands. Right, I'm going

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Speaker 3: to make a blog on it soon. But you know,

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Speaker 3: I say this, but I have I'm too busy changing

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Speaker 3: the nappies to write a blog about it. Yes, my

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Speaker 3: favorite brands A Moment, a Clever, we Fox, Fluffy Ducks,

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Speaker 3: and Cocola. So they're all good, most of them a

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Speaker 3: small New Zealand owned businesses too.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, best sounds amazing, well done. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I know it's a lot of work, and I know

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Speaker 2: that you know, they've probably been ups and downs, but

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Speaker 2: I just, yeah, I think it's really amazing what you've

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Speaker 2: been able to do. You guys, so long may you

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Speaker 2: continue that? What is it a thirteen day streak so far?

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Speaker 3: I know, now.

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Speaker 2: We're all touching wood for you, you know, like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: but thank you so much. You can find Kate on

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Speaker 2: social media, of course, just search ethically Kate. Her name

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Speaker 2: will pop right up and we'll put those brands up

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Speaker 2: on the news talks he'd be website as well.

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