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Speaker 1: The government wants police to do an extra two hundred

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Speaker 1: thousand breath tests per year and also to start drugs

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Speaker 1: saliva testing. They want fifty thousand of those done every year.

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Speaker 1: It comes after yesterday. Well actually at the weekend, boy

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Speaker 1: races over seemingly overwhelming police in Hamilton and one of

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Speaker 1: them ramming a cop car. Have listen, pretty frightening and

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Speaker 1: the police officers were standing at look like standing at

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Speaker 1: the door of their car, had to jump out of

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Speaker 1: the way. Very dangerous stuff. Chris Carhill's the Police Association president.

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Speaker 1: He's with us Live this morning.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning Ryan.

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Speaker 1: First, see what did you think watching that video?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty horrific, isn't it. Through these events seem

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Speaker 2: to have made a dramatic change. They were driving events

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Speaker 2: that were bad and incredibly annoying at times a bit dangerous.

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Speaker 2: Now they seem to be disorder offenses where people they're

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Speaker 2: there to almost bake the police, take on the police,

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Speaker 2: and it sees who are here to do the craziest

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Speaker 2: thing there and get the biggest video is the winner

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Speaker 2: And it's pretty concerning. I mean those officers could have

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Speaker 2: been seriously hurt. It was very marginal.

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Speaker 1: What do you do about that if they're filming it

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Speaker 1: and it's almost becomes a sport in and of itself,

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Speaker 1: do you just not turn up to these events?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think they cannot because they're already doing. I mean,

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Speaker 2: we're having even when the police aren't there, people are

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Speaker 2: being put at risk, people injured as well. Look, I

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Speaker 2: think there has to be some penalty for those that

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Speaker 2: are actually posting this stuff, and certainly the ones that

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Speaker 2: are inciting on those posts. You know, it's telling police

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Speaker 2: to people to turn up, telling people to throw things

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Speaker 2: at the police, these sorts of things. I think there

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Speaker 2: has to be something that's cracked down on as well

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Speaker 2: as not just turning up at the event.

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Speaker 1: Some in Brown wants police doing more breath tests. They

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Speaker 1: also want to start that drug saliva test, and let's

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Speaker 1: start with the breath test for a start, extra two

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Speaker 1: hundred thousand a year up to I think it's three

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Speaker 1: point four million, sorry, three point three million now up

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Speaker 1: from three point one million roadside alcohol breath tests. Is

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Speaker 1: that a reasonable ask?

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Speaker 2: Well, it's a bigger ask. I mean, you know, we

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Speaker 2: currently have a target of around that three million, but

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Speaker 2: I think police have only man has hit it twice

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Speaker 2: in the last ten years, and that just gives you

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Speaker 2: an mind how but the police are there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of other work going on out there and something you'll

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Speaker 2: have to give. I mean again, pat stuff. You are

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Speaker 2: police from the beat, You've got the retail cry and

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Speaker 2: we still have them down with the issue of family

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Speaker 2: harm and mental health. So it's going to be a

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Speaker 2: big stretch for police to be able to achieve this.

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Speaker 1: And they're doing one and the other with the drug testing.

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Speaker 1: How long? What is the process for the drug testing?

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Speaker 1: Is that as easy as a breath test?

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Speaker 2: Now that's not I mean at this the proposals you'll

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Speaker 2: do two mouth swabs so and then there's variations of

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Speaker 2: that opinion on what the results are and what the

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Speaker 2: person lecks to do. But I would have thought that's

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Speaker 2: going to take a minimum sort of fifteen minutes, maybe longer.

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Speaker 2: And so you work out fifty thousand, that's about twelve

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Speaker 2: and a half thousand officer airs a year. So that's

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Speaker 2: an incredibly increase. And we're at the police as well,

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Speaker 2: So it's going to be a real challenge. And I

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Speaker 2: think the question that I'll be asking the Minister at

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Speaker 2: Plice what's going to give. Where do you want them

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Speaker 2: to stop doing because you can't just keep any more on?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely, Chris, Thanks so much for your time. Chris,

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Speaker 1: can't hold the police Associa. Oh actually, just before you go, Chris,

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Speaker 1: we've had a text coming from someone who works at

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Speaker 1: police saying that there's some redundancies apparently going to be

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Speaker 1: announced today or tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Are you aware of those? Yeah, there over will be

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Speaker 2: a big announcement I think probably tomorrow's staff for getting

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Speaker 2: the facts in the next twenty four hours sort of thing.

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Speaker 2: So I don't want to say too much, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's certainly a proposal that we're going to get all

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Speaker 2: the details of in the next couple of days, which

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Speaker 2: we'll be watching closely. They will be employees or non

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Speaker 2: sworn staff, not sworn police officers, but a lot of

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Speaker 2: those staff are what actually enabled police officers to go

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Speaker 2: out and do their job every day, so we'll be

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Speaker 2: watching that very closely.

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Speaker 1: Any idea of numbers at the stage, Chris, Look, the.

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Speaker 2: Figure that was bended around at the start was in

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Speaker 2: their one hundred and seventy five range. But we just

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Speaker 2: want to see what has actually been settled on now

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Speaker 2: that they've gone through a process.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for your tome really appreciated, Chris Carhell,

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Speaker 1: Police Association President.

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