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Speaker 2: Hello you great New Zealanders, and welcome to the Mountain

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Speaker 2: Tyler Afternoons podcast for Friday, the twenty second of November.

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Speaker 2: Make sure you subscribe and follow and all those things

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Speaker 2: that you do and podcasts. Had a great show today,

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Speaker 2: a great show for a Friday. Of course, we announced

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Speaker 2: the New Zealand of the week, who could have been

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Speaker 2: let's just say one tenuous, tenuous one that we got

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Speaker 2: topical tunes. At the end of it. We did quite

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Speaker 2: a lot of chat on toxic workplaces, which was very interesting.

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Speaker 2: I heard a lot of people's lives, a lot of

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Speaker 2: back and forth on that one. The guy called Morris,

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Speaker 2: who's absolute loose unit on some kind of horse ranch.

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Speaker 3: He've went a lot to say about Morris.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what he does in a ute will shock you.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it was a great chat. And then fish

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Speaker 2: and chip chat. Yeah, fish chip is getting very very expensive,

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Speaker 2: so a great chat on that. That was interesting.

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Speaker 3: Onion sausages again and that popped up, Yeah, or Frickin'

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Speaker 3: onion sausages.

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Speaker 2: Love an onion sausage and kiaren Ice Sockets read the

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Speaker 2: ext all bat Captain joins us to talk about the

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Speaker 2: Italian game this weekend and the All Black season overall.

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Speaker 2: What a great man he is and a great chat

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Speaker 2: that is, so thank you so much for listening to

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Speaker 2: our podcast. And look give him a taste of Kiwi.

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Speaker 2: You've seem busy, so let's play the show.

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Speaker 1: Your new home for insightful and entertaining talk. It's Mattie

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Speaker 1: and Tyler Adams afternoons on news Talk zebby Helloady.

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Speaker 3: You welcome into Friday, into the working week for most

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Speaker 3: hope you're doing well. I am excited.

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Speaker 2: Yeah to me Friday and got a big weekend on

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Speaker 2: and we have the new Zealander of the Week after

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Speaker 2: three o'clock, where we will name someone as having an

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Speaker 2: outsized effect on the country over the last seven days.

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Speaker 2: We've also got the topical tunune. Tyler, you'll place song

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Speaker 2: on a topic of the week, so will I, and

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Speaker 2: the first of three votes on eight hundred and eighty

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Speaker 2: ten eighty wins the currents. The current standing I believe

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Speaker 2: is five to two in my favor.

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Speaker 3: I think so someone will know if you know you've

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Speaker 3: been keeping count nine two nine two. Let us know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's might sound right.

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Speaker 3: I think it's closer than that.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, because you've only won twice, so you might.

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Speaker 2: The only way it could be closer is if we've

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Speaker 2: been on a less amount of time than I think.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: Well, it feels like a goddamn.

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Speaker 3: Life has kind of changed this afternoon, I tell you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, four dollars fifty for thirty four chips? Is

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Speaker 2: that merrally? Okay? It's happened at a fish and chip

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Speaker 2: Someone's counted them.

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Speaker 3: What does that come to? Period? Chip? About thirteen cents,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's about thirteen cents a chip.

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Speaker 3: There are pretty chunky chips, to be honest. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So fish and Chip chat after three as well.

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Speaker 3: After two o'clock. We want to have a chat about

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Speaker 3: to how much credit card companies can charge in terms

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Speaker 3: It was one of the platforms he ran on. Now

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Speaker 3: But someone who has is wholeheartedly agreeing with that, as

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Speaker 2: Course, isn't that you go so hands across the chamber,

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Speaker 2: what they want in the States, don't they Absolutely?

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Speaker 3: I love it. And Bernie Sanders is all force. So

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we were talking about this before, and I says,

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Speaker 2: we don't have that here? We do and we do. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I thought that. I don't know. I've actually never looked

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Speaker 2: at my credit card rates. So that was stupid of me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah? But we know there's some of those credit cards

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Speaker 2: And so if the business model is to make money

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Speaker 2: That seems a little evil. I mean, there has to

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Speaker 2: be some interests. Of course, it's their money they're lending you.

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Speaker 2: But if it gets up to thirty forty percent, not

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Speaker 2: call no so Bernie and old Trump. He might have

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Speaker 3: Yep, I agree. That is the chat after two o'clock

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you might have seen this Seeks the website,

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Speaker 2: examples new Zicer workers were being spoken to rudely in

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Speaker 2: front of colleagues. I mean, is that that bad? And

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Speaker 2: bad communication? Office favoritism, Well that's always going to happen.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, so they are some of the most common

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Speaker 2: the people who claim toxicity are actually toxic in their

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Speaker 2: own right. Passive aggression is a powerful force. There are

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Speaker 2: emotional hemophilias, yep, i'd call them. I'm just I think

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Speaker 2: I might have made up that got a trase. Emotional hemophiliacs. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's bleeding with emotion everywhere who find toxic workplaces wherever

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Speaker 2: gone to seven workplaces and they've all got this terrible,

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Speaker 2: terrible environment, or is it you? Yeah, that's a question.

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Speaker 2: Just because you get upset doesn't mean that the workplace

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Speaker 3: Things have drastically changed, haven't they. I bet you did

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Speaker 3: and I still immensely respect the guy. But he screamed

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Speaker 3: take this upstairs. It just wasn't. It wasn't part of

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Speaker 3: if one of the bosses was absolutely letting loose because

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Speaker 2: Yeah so, because toxics are really powerful word, right, toxic?

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Speaker 2: You know, you know what I mean, it's toxic. So

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Speaker 2: if it's just bad communication, there's bad communication enough to

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Speaker 2: But a dysfunctional workplaces as they're going to be all

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Speaker 2: over the place, that's fine. There's opportunities in a dysfunctional

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Speaker 3: And if you work hard, don't you become the favoriteisn't

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Speaker 3: that it works? If you solve problems for people, then

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Speaker 2: That I mean, as long as it's not some kind

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Speaker 3: Yeah. What I find really hard for bosses in the

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Speaker 3: that's a hard one for the boss because it's not

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Speaker 3: the boss's role to be that therapist and emotional support.

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Speaker 3: They are there to direct somebody on how.

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Speaker 2: To do this. It's also a risky way to behave

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Speaker 3: So anyway, just quickly is there a risk, So you've

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Speaker 3: that might be going on in their life and it's

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Speaker 3: quite often, we call it burnout. They get to a

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Speaker 3: that point. That is another hard position for that boss

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Speaker 3: to be in writers because they don't want to lose

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I guess so, yeah, absolutely. I mean that's

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Speaker 2: how a boss might want to run it. You know,

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Speaker 2: if someone's a real asset for them, then they want

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Speaker 2: to you know, just the same way you run a car.

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Speaker 2: You want to make sure it's regularly service. You want

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Speaker 2: probably why examples certain circumstances. But yeah, toxic workplaces, just

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Speaker 2: because SEEKS is the latest start to reveal sixty three

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Speaker 2: Six's latest data reveals sixty three percent of New Zealand

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Speaker 5: I think that I wouldn't say that there are many

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Speaker 5: It helped them. It helps them a lot. So I

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Speaker 2: Yes, so what about Catherine, say, you've got people that

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Speaker 5: It can be a bit of both, depending on the

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Speaker 3: You're great to chat to, Catherine. How I'm just sorry

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Speaker 3: That is a tricky position for a boss to be

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Speaker 3: in because to me, that is not bullying. That is

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Speaker 5: And it's not always what you say, but how you

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Speaker 5: there are managers and there are managers, and trust me,

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Speaker 5: you know, there's been a situation where I came across

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Speaker 4: Yeah happens.

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Speaker 2: like you haven't chosen them like you've chosen your friends.

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Speaker 2: But the other side of that is things can get

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Speaker 2: because it's a workplace, you have to see them every day.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but you've got to learn how to cope with

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. A question for you, Catherine, do you think it's

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Speaker 2: What about if if you yell at your computer a lot,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but you shouldn't be. You shouldn't be because you

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Speaker 5: respect the space that you're in as well. So you're

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: See, I just don't like Princes. I really don't like Prentice.

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Speaker 6: If you've got to.

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Speaker 5: Respect your face, and you've got to respect the other

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Speaker 6: Respect, you know.

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Speaker 2: But thank you, Catherine, someone's finally said something right.

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Speaker 3: We'll take a break and then I'm going to yell

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Speaker 2: Workplaces. Are people too sensitive in workplaces and calling everything

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Speaker 3: Just on the yelling question though, because that has changed

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Speaker 3: But when I first started and I worked for my dad,

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Speaker 3: It was just it was a fast paced environment and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, that's an interesting thing. I guess it comes

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Speaker 2: the example of James Cameron, the great movie director. He

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Speaker 3: We're talking about toxic workplaces after a survey by SIKH

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Speaker 3: found that sixty three percent of New Zealand workers believed

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Speaker 3: And we've also asked a question, is it ever okay

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Speaker 3: to yell at someone in the workplace? Carolyn, you want

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Speaker 3: to chat about a book about working with potentially toxic people.

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Speaker 6: There's very definitely a profile of toxic leadership. There's a

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Speaker 6: very good book by John Clark with an E and

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Speaker 6: he was a criminal profiler and brought into an Australian

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Speaker 6: good people. And he identified something called an organizational psychopath.

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Speaker 6: They're not criminal psychopaths who will go out of murder people,

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Speaker 6: but they are definitely psychopaths. And there's a saying the

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Speaker 2: Have a look at that. When you brought up John Clark,

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Speaker 2: I thought you were talking about the great New Zealand

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Speaker 2: comic John Clark. Of course it was Fred Daggs, but

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Speaker 2: he made this fantastic show. I don't know if anyone

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Speaker 2: that was all about a dysfunctional, if somewhat toxic workplace.

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Speaker 6: So there is such a thing as a toxic workplace

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Speaker 6: if you read that book. But equally you talked about

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Speaker 6: dysfunctional workplaces, and dysfunctional workplaces are quite often caused by

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Speaker 6: you're a manager. Now go manage with no training, no

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Speaker 6: That's actually a manager's problem, and it's an HR's problem

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Speaker 4: So when you're.

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Speaker 6: Managing people, you should be managing two KPIs and to standards.

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Speaker 6: If those standards are not articulated, how can a person

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Speaker 6: know what to do?

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Speaker 2: Agree with that? I agree with that one hundred p ccent, Caroline,

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Speaker 2: But you would you also agree there's such a thing

439
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Speaker 2: as I'm calling them an emotional hemophiliac that'll find a

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Speaker 2: toxic workplace wherever they go because they have weaknesses in

441
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Speaker 2: their own personality. No matter how much communication they get

442
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Speaker 2: from their manager or wherever they're put or whatever I

443
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Speaker 2: guess the terms kid gloves that they're treated with, they

444
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Speaker 2: will always find reasons to feel like they're being set

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Speaker 2: upon in their workplace.

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Speaker 6: That's quite possible, and that comes down to the recruitment process.

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Speaker 6: If you have a very robust recruitment process, you can

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Speaker 6: identify patterns of behavior, particularly if you conduct psychometric testing,

449
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Speaker 6: and it's not it should be confirming what your instinct is.

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Speaker 6: And I've always had a thing about recruitment agencies and

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Speaker 6: if you get a twenty one year old who's thrown

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Speaker 6: in the role to recruit people, they don't have enough experience,

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Speaker 6: an understanding organizational structure and understanding the type of person

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Speaker 6: that you need to recruit into the workplace culture.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Yeah, sorry, Caroline, we've got a

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Speaker 2: nip off. Now we've got a bit of a time constraint.

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Speaker 2: But that was very interesting, And thank you so much

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Speaker 2: for your call toxic workplaces. You've got the question, because

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Speaker 2: is it okay to be yelling in your workplace? Tyler? Oh,

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Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Is there make it

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Speaker 2: a toxic workplace? You're you're always yelling at your printer,

462
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Speaker 2: and you're yelling at your computer and stuff.

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Speaker 3: Nanimat objects, feelings, but you don't mind.

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Speaker 2: But you don't yell at me. But I wouldn't even

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Speaker 2: mind if you yelled at me. You can yell at

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Speaker 2: me if you want so. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 2: We're talking toxic workplaces. But I've got a question for

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Speaker 2: you across the blank. What was the name of the

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Speaker 2: janitor with superpowers from the nineteen eighty four Tromio splatter film.

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Speaker 3: It's a hard question. What was the name I?

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Speaker 2: What was the name of the janitor with superpowers from

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Speaker 2: the nineteen eighty four Tromio splatter film? Right, all right, answer.

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Speaker 3: Next that is coming up. It is twenty seven to two.

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Speaker 9: Deuce talks at the headlines with Blue Bubble taxis It's

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Speaker 9: no trouble with a Blue Bubble. The new gang Insignia

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Speaker 9: Van has already claimed three motorcycles as well as patches

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Speaker 9: from a Henderson pad. The club president and the fifty

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Speaker 9: two year old man will face chargers, among more than

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Speaker 9: a dozen gang members due in court around the country.

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Speaker 9: The government is setting up a specialized task force to

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Speaker 9: reform Uraga Tamari king. The Child Protection Investigation Unit will

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Speaker 9: operate early next year. Pregnant mothers are being urged to

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Speaker 9: get immunized, with health agencies saying New Zealand's in the

484
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Speaker 9: early stages of a hoop and coff epidemic.

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Speaker 2: Reports.

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Speaker 9: A former political figure, not a sitting MP, has been

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Speaker 9: sentenced to two and a half years jail for sexually

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Speaker 9: abusing two teens nearly thirty years ago. A fallen tree

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Speaker 9: is closed State Highway One between Kaiwaka and the brin

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Speaker 9: Durwins in Northland, causing significant delays. Power lines are risk

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Speaker 9: and the roads likely to be closed until about three.

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Speaker 9: Hamilton lawyer Rebecca Guthrie has been appointed a District Court

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Speaker 9: judge based at White Targety District Court. New Zealand's top

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Speaker 9: young executives. Where are they now? See Moore at endsid

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Speaker 9: Herald Premium Back to Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Rayleen. It is twenty three to two.

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Speaker 2: And the answer to my cryptic question was actually wasn't

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Speaker 2: cryptic at all. It was just a question what was

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Speaker 2: the name of the janitor with superpowers from the nineteen

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Speaker 2: eighty four Tromo spat of film as Darren Glenn just

501
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Speaker 2: looking a few dean and like thousands of others, got

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Speaker 2: it right. It wasn't Melvin the Mott Boy. No, it

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Speaker 2: was the Toxic Avenger never heard of. It was actually

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Speaker 2: a remake of it last year. Any good, No, remac

505
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Speaker 2: wasn't any good. But they were Tromo films, so they

506
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Speaker 2: were the lowest budget films. But I still love them

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Speaker 2: back in the day, the Tromo films. But the Toxic

508
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Speaker 2: Avenger then it's multiple seagulls. Very good as a janety

509
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Speaker 2: got stuck in some toxic waste and he came back

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Speaker 2: and wreaked his revenge. Right, we're students of the school.

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Speaker 3: Worth watching for me on the weekend.

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Speaker 2: Then ah, NOA, I don't know if it holds up.

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Speaker 2: I don't know anyway, siks latert Sdarta reveals sixty three

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Speaker 2: percent of New Zealand workers have been in a toxic

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Speaker 2: workplace in the past, and the impacts on their well

516
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Speaker 2: being have been significant, according to Sikh. But I'm questioning,

517
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Speaker 2: I'm questioning the wording of this. Sexs later start to

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Speaker 2: reveal sixty three percent of New Zealand's have been No

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Speaker 2: they are claiming to have been. Some people who claim

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Speaker 2: toxicity are actually actually toxic in their own right with

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Speaker 2: their passive aggressions. Some are emotional hemophiliacs who find a

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Speaker 2: toxic workplaces ever they go. I mean, the question is

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Speaker 2: is it so bad? I mean one of the things

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Speaker 2: is you know, being spoken to rudely?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I mean is it so bad to be yelled at?

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Speaker 3: Well, I suppose you know what do you mean by rudeley?

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Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, well, I mean exactly. Yeah. One person's rude

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Speaker 2: is a different rude to someone else's. But we've got

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Speaker 2: so many texts coming through on nine two ninety two

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Speaker 2: and a lot of phone calls as well. Hi, guys,

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Speaker 2: I think you're right. Everyone is a bit sensitive. Try

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Speaker 2: working for a family on a dairy farm. Nine percent

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Speaker 2: of the people wouldn't be able to handle that. But

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Speaker 2: it just goes with the job and the work environment.

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Speaker 2: Shes for that.

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Speaker 3: Brad, Yep, good text. Just go back to the phones. Dan,

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Speaker 3: you run a business and team?

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Speaker 10: Yeah you got men?

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Speaker 11: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Got you? And what do you think about this one?

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Speaker 12: So when people ask me what I do for a job,

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Speaker 12: I tell them that I am the toxic Avenger. I

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Speaker 12: deal with hazardous chemical waste. I've run a number of businesses.

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Speaker 12: I've even run a division of a publicly listed company.

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Speaker 12: It took me a long time to learn, but the

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Speaker 12: biggest thing that I found to get those businesses under

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Speaker 12: control was to first develop the team. And to develop

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Speaker 12: the team, you've got to have some rules of the

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Speaker 12: game and some performance tools behind that, and the shouting

551
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Speaker 12: thing when you talk to people. The best thing that

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Speaker 12: I can do is talk to people. Really don't be

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Speaker 12: afraid to bring up direct problems, but you always do

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Speaker 12: it in a calm manner, and you always point out

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Speaker 12: and refer back to.

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Speaker 13: Your rules of the game.

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Speaker 12: So I've got a little rule that I live by

558
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Speaker 12: which is above the line behavior. So that's taking ownership, accountability,

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Speaker 12: responsibility instead of resorting to blame, excuses, denial. So if

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Speaker 12: I'm talking with team members, that's what I'll do is

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Speaker 12: I'll point out the specific things, and when I hear

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Speaker 12: their responses, I can actually hear it in the way

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Speaker 12: that they talk, and I'll put little dots above all

564
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Speaker 12: below the line, and I'll show them where they're playing.

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Speaker 12: But behind that, you have to have that culture, that quality,

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Speaker 12: health and safety, environment policy that says what you're going

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Speaker 12: to do, and the set of rules of the game

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Speaker 12: that says this is how we perform in the workplace.

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Speaker 12: And you have to sit calmly with your staff and

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Speaker 12: you have to talk through those things and have those

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Speaker 12: performance discussions because once you get that team right, and

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Speaker 12: you have to keep working at it and keep working

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Speaker 12: at it, and keep working at it, because one little

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Speaker 12: thing can destroy that team in an instant, but it

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Speaker 12: is the biggest and best thing that you can do

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Speaker 12: to develop and grow a business.

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Speaker 2: So, Dan, are you talking about management? And all levels

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Speaker 2: of a team.

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Speaker 12: All levels of a team. So look, I've worked at

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Speaker 12: all levels of a team. I've run my own business

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Speaker 12: in Australia and rand a division of a publicly listed

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Speaker 12: company in Australia. I've had a senior management.

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Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is when you when you when

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Speaker 2: you talk about the above and their lyne, so you're

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Speaker 2: saying both the management and the people below them need

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Speaker 2: for the team to operate in such a way where

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Speaker 2: they all all.

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Speaker 12: The layers of management and supervisors need to understand that principle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm talking about dan Is, but also the

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Speaker 2: people belo the management, the people that are being managed,

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Speaker 2: do they need to also turn up with these ideas

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Speaker 2: of not blaming other people and the other things that

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Speaker 2: you suggested, Because really what I'm talking about is that

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Speaker 2: some people that will find a toxic workplace wherever they go,

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Speaker 2: and they and they'll blame management for their situations that

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Speaker 2: they're in. And so there's an obligation I guess I'm

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Speaker 2: suggesting for people to be turn up and have a

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Speaker 2: certain amount of be robust enough to handle the environment

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Speaker 2: that they're in.

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Speaker 12: I agree with you and your lady before saying, getting

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Speaker 12: it right at the recruitment process is the key thing.

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Speaker 12: And no matter how much I've got on my plate,

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Speaker 12: one of the biggest things I'll spend the most time

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Speaker 12: on is inducting any new team member and specifically going

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Speaker 12: through those policies, the rules of the game, this is

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Speaker 12: how we play around here. And then if people step

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Speaker 12: out of line with that, no, you don't shout at them,

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Speaker 12: you hit them down and you talk about with them

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Speaker 12: about what the real problem is, and then you refer

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Speaker 12: back to that induction process and if forgets to a

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Speaker 12: point beyond that normally it doesn't. Normally, if you learn

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Speaker 12: to understand people. That lady was talking about personality profiling,

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Speaker 12: and that's something a lot of people don't do because

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Speaker 12: there's different personality types and you have to deal with

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Speaker 12: different people in different ways. But that's what you do.

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Speaker 10: If you get to the point where you do.

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Speaker 12: Have someone who is your toxic chemo friendly act, then

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Speaker 12: you might have to go down that path of getting

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Speaker 12: rid of them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you.

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Speaker 12: Can establish that team, establish that culture, that is the

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Speaker 12: best possible thing you can do in the business. And

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Speaker 12: you've got to dedicate so much time to it.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much. It was great to speak

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Speaker 2: to the toxic avenger himself.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very good.

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Speaker 13: Cool.

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Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

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Speaker 3: to cool love to hear from you. It is sixteen

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Speaker 3: to two.

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Speaker 11: It's done.

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Speaker 1: You take on talk bag matt Ethan Tyler Adams afternoons.

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Speaker 1: Have your say on eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talks.

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Speaker 14: There be four two.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about toxic workplaces? Is it okay to yell

636
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Speaker 2: at employees and other people working with you? Got a

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Speaker 2: bunch of texts coming through on nine two nine two,

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Speaker 2: and a bunch of phone calls as well. On one

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Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty. He has a text. Holy,

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Speaker 2: I have so many toxic stories. I work in hospo.

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Speaker 2: My only chef told me at ten am she needed

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Speaker 2: to go to an appointment at twelve thirty lunch service.

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Speaker 2: We were the ones who are being unreasonable for saying no, Dave.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Hospo traditionally is a hotbed of pressure. There's nothing quite

646
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Speaker 2: as stressful as a kitchen. I think in work, if

647
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Speaker 2: you're a young person and you start working in a kitchen,

648
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Speaker 2: you can deal with any situation. I don't care if

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Speaker 2: it's air traffic control or anything compared to a busy

650
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Speaker 2: kitchen in hospo. Oh boy. But also there is a

651
00:32:54,693 --> 00:32:58,373
Speaker 2: lot of yelling and a lot of aggression in there,

652
00:32:58,453 --> 00:33:01,453
Speaker 2: and that was celebrated in TV shows Gordon Ramsay, celebrated

653
00:33:01,493 --> 00:33:04,213
Speaker 2: for the long time Anthony Bourdain. So I'd be interested

654
00:33:04,253 --> 00:33:07,133
Speaker 2: to find out from people in hospit if that's still

655
00:33:07,133 --> 00:33:09,573
Speaker 2: the environment where people are still yelling and screaming and

656
00:33:09,733 --> 00:33:11,253
Speaker 2: slamming pots down.

657
00:33:11,453 --> 00:33:16,973
Speaker 3: Did you read Kitchen Confidential, Anthony boord ain't yesly yeah.

658
00:33:16,573 --> 00:33:20,453
Speaker 2: Holy all right, Bowie your thoughts on toxic workplaces?

659
00:33:24,853 --> 00:33:27,813
Speaker 3: Rowie, we might have you on delay there. So what

660
00:33:27,813 --> 00:33:29,453
Speaker 3: I'd do, I'm going to put you back to Andrew

661
00:33:29,493 --> 00:33:31,493
Speaker 3: will try and get you off delay. I think you've

662
00:33:31,493 --> 00:33:34,493
Speaker 3: got the radio on. Let's have a chat to Trevor Ghetto. Trevor,

663
00:33:34,533 --> 00:33:36,493
Speaker 3: you reckon. It's hard to judge what is toxic?

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00:33:37,373 --> 00:33:39,213
Speaker 15: Yeah, I do really And it was just like you.

665
00:33:39,333 --> 00:33:42,453
Speaker 15: I mean, you just talked about some kitchens and when

666
00:33:42,453 --> 00:33:45,773
Speaker 15: the pressures on the way people speak. And I've just

667
00:33:45,853 --> 00:33:49,253
Speaker 15: come from a wholesaler. A trade is wholesaler, and I'll

668
00:33:49,253 --> 00:33:51,973
Speaker 15: tell you what some people would go in there and

669
00:33:51,973 --> 00:33:55,293
Speaker 15: they think that place is toxic or offended. I thought,

670
00:33:55,293 --> 00:33:57,253
Speaker 15: I'll tell you what, ninety nine percent of the guys

671
00:33:57,253 --> 00:33:58,733
Speaker 15: that go in there, they just love us. The way

672
00:33:58,773 --> 00:34:00,373
Speaker 15: we talk to each other and how we described to

673
00:34:00,413 --> 00:34:03,333
Speaker 15: Mala Harris and how we supplyve Donald Trump and stuff

674
00:34:03,373 --> 00:34:07,173
Speaker 15: like that. So I think it's very important to joke

675
00:34:07,293 --> 00:34:10,292
Speaker 15: what it was, what frush, what thrashed me about it.

676
00:34:10,773 --> 00:34:14,493
Speaker 15: There's a workplace that's okay. One person comes in. I'll

677
00:34:14,573 --> 00:34:16,613
Speaker 15: use the word offender, which I think is similar. They

678
00:34:16,653 --> 00:34:19,212
Speaker 15: come in and they are offended by something or they

679
00:34:19,213 --> 00:34:23,413
Speaker 15: thought something was toxic, and generally that one person gets

680
00:34:23,413 --> 00:34:25,893
Speaker 15: the whole place changed. Can I give you a couple examples.

681
00:34:26,653 --> 00:34:29,733
Speaker 15: You know Steve Williams. You know Steve Williams Tiger Woods's co.

682
00:34:30,453 --> 00:34:32,853
Speaker 15: So you know he used to have these Oh you

683
00:34:32,973 --> 00:34:35,373
Speaker 15: probably go to the mat, we have a lunch, to

684
00:34:35,453 --> 00:34:38,413
Speaker 15: sit down and he tells stories, right, and we all

685
00:34:38,413 --> 00:34:40,693
Speaker 15: know what it's all about. And I remember once he

686
00:34:40,773 --> 00:34:44,013
Speaker 15: had one and two ladies complained and Steve Williams come

687
00:34:44,013 --> 00:34:47,333
Speaker 15: on the air the next day and apologized if he

688
00:34:47,453 --> 00:34:50,173
Speaker 15: offended anyone, don't think of himself. Why. I'll tell you

689
00:34:50,173 --> 00:34:52,693
Speaker 15: another class example. I don't know how closely you follow sports.

690
00:34:52,773 --> 00:34:55,133
Speaker 15: The zillaan and the hockeys coach ladies team they had

691
00:34:55,133 --> 00:34:58,373
Speaker 15: an Australian coach, the Mark Hagar, and when he took

692
00:34:58,413 --> 00:35:00,493
Speaker 15: them over, he had his way of doing it and

693
00:35:00,493 --> 00:35:02,893
Speaker 15: they won. I think they want a Commonwealth game. Got

694
00:35:02,933 --> 00:35:07,013
Speaker 15: to playoff some Olympic games and were very successful and

695
00:35:07,053 --> 00:35:09,613
Speaker 15: a couple of particularly young ones come in and they

696
00:35:09,653 --> 00:35:13,493
Speaker 15: complain that the atmosphere there was toxic, so they got

697
00:35:13,533 --> 00:35:15,692
Speaker 15: rid of them. But the old players come out after

698
00:35:15,813 --> 00:35:17,453
Speaker 15: it said they love the way who was running it

699
00:35:18,013 --> 00:35:18,853
Speaker 15: the best out on them.

700
00:35:18,933 --> 00:35:20,573
Speaker 3: Yeah, they shack them.

701
00:35:20,693 --> 00:35:24,933
Speaker 2: Yeah that that's exactly what I'm saying. So you know you, yeah,

702
00:35:24,973 --> 00:35:27,093
Speaker 2: what is toxic to one person? What is not? And

703
00:35:27,613 --> 00:35:30,453
Speaker 2: when you come into a workplace, do you owe the

704
00:35:30,493 --> 00:35:34,333
Speaker 2: company to be have a certain amount of robustness, to

705
00:35:34,413 --> 00:35:37,893
Speaker 2: accept a certain amount of the culture as it is. Yeah,

706
00:35:37,973 --> 00:35:39,933
Speaker 2: up up to a point. But yeah, this is really

707
00:35:39,933 --> 00:35:42,173
Speaker 2: really interesting. So one hundred and eighty, ten eighty.

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00:35:42,133 --> 00:35:43,493
Speaker 3: It is ten to two.

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Speaker 1: Matteath Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight hundred eighty

710
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Speaker 1: Tyler Adams Afternoons.

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00:35:52,253 --> 00:35:57,293
Speaker 3: News Talk News talks ' be Barrie. You think nobody

712
00:35:57,373 --> 00:35:59,732
Speaker 3: is truly evil, but you've got a technique to deal

713
00:35:59,773 --> 00:36:00,693
Speaker 3: with toxic people.

714
00:36:02,093 --> 00:36:07,093
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the truth. I've worked nearly ninety five now,

715
00:36:07,933 --> 00:36:12,253
Speaker 4: many years ago, and I've worked with thousands and thousands

716
00:36:12,853 --> 00:36:18,333
Speaker 4: of committees and people, and I had an absolutely proven

717
00:36:18,493 --> 00:36:23,013
Speaker 4: technique that worked for me. First of all, I believe

718
00:36:23,053 --> 00:36:29,693
Speaker 4: that nobody is truly bad other than mentally incapable people

719
00:36:29,733 --> 00:36:37,013
Speaker 4: and criminals. Everybody is basically a good person. But that

720
00:36:37,053 --> 00:36:40,413
Speaker 4: doesn't mean I didn't get annoyed. I used to get

721
00:36:40,413 --> 00:36:46,733
Speaker 4: annoyed often by individuals, and my technique was to be

722
00:36:46,973 --> 00:36:51,293
Speaker 4: as kind and nice to that individual, no matter how

723
00:36:51,333 --> 00:36:56,333
Speaker 4: mad he made me to be. And it's amazing how

724
00:36:56,413 --> 00:37:00,973
Speaker 4: quickly that individual will stop being being annoying to me

725
00:37:01,173 --> 00:37:06,053
Speaker 4: and everybody else everybody has a good side, and give

726
00:37:06,093 --> 00:37:08,533
Speaker 4: it a chance to come out well.

727
00:37:08,533 --> 00:37:10,533
Speaker 2: As Marcus Radi said, the best revenge is not to

728
00:37:10,573 --> 00:37:14,933
Speaker 2: be like someone. So if someone is being incredibly unreasonable

729
00:37:14,933 --> 00:37:17,453
Speaker 2: and you're not, it really does take the steam out

730
00:37:17,453 --> 00:37:18,053
Speaker 2: of their sales.

731
00:37:18,173 --> 00:37:20,773
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, but you go out of your way to

732
00:37:20,813 --> 00:37:21,733
Speaker 4: praise them.

733
00:37:21,653 --> 00:37:24,733
Speaker 3: Yeah right, tell them with kindness, Barry.

734
00:37:25,253 --> 00:37:29,813
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, exactly my point. They've always everybody has

735
00:37:29,973 --> 00:37:32,493
Speaker 4: so much good in them, you're just going to seek

736
00:37:32,533 --> 00:37:34,212
Speaker 4: it out and comment on it.

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00:37:35,053 --> 00:37:37,693
Speaker 2: Hey, young Barry Well seeking out things to comment on.

738
00:37:38,613 --> 00:37:42,053
Speaker 2: I've got a son who I called Barry, and I'm

739
00:37:42,053 --> 00:37:44,253
Speaker 2: trying to bring a new generations of Barries through with that,

740
00:37:44,373 --> 00:37:46,493
Speaker 2: because there was there was your generation of Barries, but

741
00:37:46,493 --> 00:37:50,333
Speaker 2: then Barry stopped. At some point people stopped being called Barry.

742
00:37:50,333 --> 00:37:53,692
Speaker 2: I'm not sure exactly when it was. So I've got

743
00:37:53,693 --> 00:37:55,253
Speaker 2: a fifteen year old Barry.

744
00:37:57,373 --> 00:38:00,053
Speaker 4: Well. I wish him well. It's a great name, and

745
00:38:01,213 --> 00:38:03,533
Speaker 4: pass on to him my philosophy, please.

746
00:38:03,493 --> 00:38:05,853
Speaker 2: I certainly will. I say, Barry says this, Hugh Barry,

747
00:38:05,933 --> 00:38:09,453
Speaker 2: your namesake, says this. But I've never met to bad Barry. No,

748
00:38:09,733 --> 00:38:11,733
Speaker 2: you say that everyone's got good on them. I think

749
00:38:11,773 --> 00:38:13,853
Speaker 2: there's something about the name Barry that lends people to

750
00:38:13,893 --> 00:38:14,613
Speaker 2: being good people.

751
00:38:14,693 --> 00:38:16,493
Speaker 3: I don't know too many berries. Oh there's Berry so ber.

752
00:38:16,573 --> 00:38:17,093
Speaker 3: He's a good man.

753
00:38:17,133 --> 00:38:17,973
Speaker 2: Oh he's a great man.

754
00:38:18,093 --> 00:38:18,253
Speaker 11: Yeah.

755
00:38:18,373 --> 00:38:21,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, O eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

756
00:38:21,453 --> 00:38:23,893
Speaker 3: the number to call. We're gonna carry this on after

757
00:38:24,013 --> 00:38:25,813
Speaker 3: two o'clock. Toxic workplaces.

758
00:38:26,053 --> 00:38:27,893
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I particularly want to hear from I want

759
00:38:27,893 --> 00:38:29,692
Speaker 2: to hear from everyone in eight hundred eight ten eighty.

760
00:38:29,693 --> 00:38:30,853
Speaker 2: We love your calls, but I also want to hear

761
00:38:30,853 --> 00:38:33,733
Speaker 2: from people working in hospital right now, because historically HOSPO

762
00:38:33,813 --> 00:38:36,493
Speaker 2: has been one of the most intense workplaces, and not

763
00:38:36,653 --> 00:38:41,173
Speaker 2: usual the word toxic, but intense workplaces, yelling, screaming, high pressure.

764
00:38:41,213 --> 00:38:42,733
Speaker 2: So I don't know if that's still the case, if

765
00:38:42,733 --> 00:38:46,772
Speaker 2: the Gordon Ramsay School of kitchens is still a thing,

766
00:38:46,813 --> 00:38:49,292
Speaker 2: if it's still tolerated eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

767
00:38:49,333 --> 00:38:50,453
Speaker 3: Have you ever worked in hospital?

768
00:38:50,493 --> 00:38:51,053
Speaker 2: I certainly have.

769
00:38:51,293 --> 00:38:52,813
Speaker 3: Was it crazy?

770
00:38:52,973 --> 00:38:55,693
Speaker 2: It was crazy? I was reasonably toxic. Yeah, and I

771
00:38:55,733 --> 00:38:57,813
Speaker 2: was recently intoxicated from time to time when I was

772
00:38:57,813 --> 00:38:58,692
Speaker 2: working in hospital as well.

773
00:38:58,693 --> 00:39:00,893
Speaker 3: Were you front of house or back front of house?

774
00:39:00,973 --> 00:39:04,813
Speaker 2: I think kitchens of the kitchens are intense, Yeah, yeah.

775
00:39:04,613 --> 00:39:05,333
Speaker 3: It looks like it.

776
00:39:05,413 --> 00:39:05,613
Speaker 4: Yeah.

777
00:39:05,653 --> 00:39:07,933
Speaker 3: I mean just reading going back to a kitchen confidential

778
00:39:07,933 --> 00:39:11,853
Speaker 3: and ants Bordain you he has flaws, but I thought

779
00:39:11,853 --> 00:39:15,333
Speaker 3: he was a fantastic human being. But man, he put

780
00:39:15,373 --> 00:39:17,853
Speaker 3: up with some stuff, but it hardened him.

781
00:39:17,933 --> 00:39:20,853
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, And I think expectation is a big part

782
00:39:20,893 --> 00:39:22,213
Speaker 2: of it. You might go into workplace and if you

783
00:39:22,213 --> 00:39:23,813
Speaker 2: expect to be treated in a certain way, and you're not,

784
00:39:24,213 --> 00:39:26,013
Speaker 2: then you feel like it's unfair and you might call

785
00:39:26,013 --> 00:39:28,173
Speaker 2: it toxic. But if that is the way the place

786
00:39:28,373 --> 00:39:30,733
Speaker 2: is and that's how it gets things done, you might

787
00:39:30,773 --> 00:39:31,893
Speaker 2: have taken that into consideration.

788
00:39:32,093 --> 00:39:38,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, cool, Quicktichus. Hey guys, I have a few panel

789
00:39:38,053 --> 00:39:40,893
Speaker 3: and paint shops, and we have counselors that our team

790
00:39:41,053 --> 00:39:43,973
Speaker 3: can access at no cost to them. Any good employer

791
00:39:44,213 --> 00:39:46,773
Speaker 3: should want to look after their teams.

792
00:39:47,013 --> 00:39:48,692
Speaker 2: Even if they're emotional hemophiliations.

793
00:39:48,853 --> 00:39:51,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred eighty eighty. He's the number to call.

794
00:39:51,813 --> 00:39:54,093
Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety two is the text number of that's shit thing.

795
00:39:54,373 --> 00:39:56,773
Speaker 3: It is four minutes to two. You're listening to Matt

796
00:39:56,813 --> 00:39:57,173
Speaker 3: and Tyler.

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00:39:57,213 --> 00:40:22,213
Speaker 14: Good afternoon, talking with you all afternoon.

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Speaker 1: It's Matt Heathan Taylor Adams Afternoons you for twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four News Talk ZIDB.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, haing you on this Friday, seven past two. We're

801
00:40:32,173 --> 00:40:33,133
Speaker 3: having a great time.

802
00:40:33,333 --> 00:40:34,693
Speaker 2: I had a great time last night as well. I

803
00:40:34,733 --> 00:40:37,893
Speaker 2: was at the Between Two Beers, you know, the Fantastic podcast.

804
00:40:37,933 --> 00:40:40,293
Speaker 2: They had a live show and I was at it

805
00:40:40,333 --> 00:40:42,573
Speaker 2: and two of the other guests with Jason Gunn and

806
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Speaker 2: six ologist Morgan Pin. You might know from the six

807
00:40:45,653 --> 00:40:49,333
Speaker 2: Life thing and being on a couch. Well, Morgan Pin

808
00:40:49,813 --> 00:40:54,893
Speaker 2: Sixologist question Jason Gunn about his six Life I think

809
00:40:54,933 --> 00:40:57,053
Speaker 2: it might have been one of the funniest things I've

810
00:40:57,133 --> 00:40:59,173
Speaker 2: ever seen in my life. Jason Gunn was fantastic, and

811
00:40:59,213 --> 00:41:02,013
Speaker 2: so I was Morgan. But she was putting him on

812
00:41:02,053 --> 00:41:06,013
Speaker 2: the spot about frequency and the details of and you

813
00:41:06,133 --> 00:41:09,253
Speaker 2: just don't expect that conversation with great New Zealand ad

814
00:41:09,293 --> 00:41:11,172
Speaker 2: Jason Gunn. But it was one of the funniest things

815
00:41:11,173 --> 00:41:15,053
Speaker 2: I've ever seen. Hey, we're talking about toxicology, toxicology, toxic

816
00:41:15,133 --> 00:41:20,893
Speaker 2: workplaces after a Sikh study. Six's latest dart of revealed

817
00:41:20,893 --> 00:41:22,973
Speaker 2: sixty three percent of New Zealand workers have been in

818
00:41:23,013 --> 00:41:25,573
Speaker 2: a toxic workplace in the past. Some of those things

819
00:41:25,573 --> 00:41:29,933
Speaker 2: that they say toxic, bad communication, offers, favoritism and being

820
00:41:29,973 --> 00:41:33,013
Speaker 2: spoken to rudely. There are some of these complaints and

821
00:41:33,053 --> 00:41:35,733
Speaker 2: that caused me to question. Sixty three percent of New

822
00:41:35,813 --> 00:41:38,573
Speaker 2: Zealand workers have been in toxic workplaces or claimed to

823
00:41:38,573 --> 00:41:41,692
Speaker 2: be in a toxic workplace. And I've raised the term,

824
00:41:41,813 --> 00:41:43,733
Speaker 2: which I may or may not have made up. Emotional

825
00:41:44,053 --> 00:41:47,732
Speaker 2: hemophiliacs are people claiming that workplaces are toxic. But it's

826
00:41:47,933 --> 00:41:51,053
Speaker 2: just that they find things toxic wherever they go, Yeah,

827
00:41:51,093 --> 00:41:54,453
Speaker 2: and they can't handle the channel. There's absolutely no doubt

828
00:41:54,493 --> 00:41:57,253
Speaker 2: that there are some toxic workplaces, but I think there

829
00:41:57,253 --> 00:41:59,293
Speaker 2: are also a case of some people that will find

830
00:41:59,813 --> 00:42:04,093
Speaker 2: everywhere they go toxic. But before we get onto that topic,

831
00:42:04,133 --> 00:42:05,933
Speaker 2: there's the topic of the name Barriie. Because we talk

832
00:42:05,973 --> 00:42:09,013
Speaker 2: to a ninety five year old barrye yes, a great

833
00:42:09,053 --> 00:42:12,173
Speaker 2: New Zealand a great chat before about toxic workplaces, and

834
00:42:12,173 --> 00:42:14,133
Speaker 2: I pointed out that I've got a fifteen year old Barry.

835
00:42:14,133 --> 00:42:16,893
Speaker 2: I called my son Barry am and am and the

836
00:42:16,893 --> 00:42:18,773
Speaker 2: mother thought we'd bring the name Barry back because we

837
00:42:18,813 --> 00:42:20,733
Speaker 2: loved it. There was a gap in Barry's, Yeah, there

838
00:42:20,733 --> 00:42:23,053
Speaker 2: has been. Yeah, So if you've got a young Barry,

839
00:42:23,093 --> 00:42:25,172
Speaker 2: I'd like to hear from you, because I think I've

840
00:42:25,173 --> 00:42:27,373
Speaker 2: never met a bad I've never met a bad Barry.

841
00:42:27,693 --> 00:42:30,533
Speaker 2: I think Barry's there's something about that name.

842
00:42:30,373 --> 00:42:32,493
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it opens it up to some great nicknames

843
00:42:32,493 --> 00:42:34,533
Speaker 3: as well. Bears, batter Well.

844
00:42:34,453 --> 00:42:37,732
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bess McCullum. I mean, not his actual name, but

845
00:42:38,093 --> 00:42:40,453
Speaker 2: someone here says I've got a rock wheeler called Barry.

846
00:42:41,293 --> 00:42:43,933
Speaker 2: He's a great guy. And someone says, Matt, you're supposed

847
00:42:43,933 --> 00:42:45,933
Speaker 2: to be a muso. You're forgetting the greatest Barry of

848
00:42:45,933 --> 00:42:50,013
Speaker 2: all time, Barry Mellow, Barry Menlow. Yes, the songs that

849
00:42:50,293 --> 00:42:53,853
Speaker 2: Meg the whole world sing. I've got a lot of

850
00:42:53,853 --> 00:42:54,773
Speaker 2: time for Barry Menlow.

851
00:42:54,893 --> 00:42:59,133
Speaker 3: You can hold a tune man, great snars. Yeah, Morris,

852
00:42:59,373 --> 00:43:01,333
Speaker 3: you are a screamer in the workplace.

853
00:43:02,293 --> 00:43:06,853
Speaker 16: Absolutely not PC say what I mean, explain things in

854
00:43:06,893 --> 00:43:07,533
Speaker 16: black and white.

855
00:43:07,653 --> 00:43:09,093
Speaker 17: If you're a dick, I'll tell you.

856
00:43:09,653 --> 00:43:12,652
Speaker 2: Have you had it's not toxic? Has it ever gone?

857
00:43:13,053 --> 00:43:15,413
Speaker 2: Have you ever had complaints? Have you ever had any

858
00:43:15,733 --> 00:43:18,773
Speaker 2: Have you've ever been seen there the complain?

859
00:43:18,813 --> 00:43:19,732
Speaker 17: Because I know what they're going.

860
00:43:19,653 --> 00:43:20,133
Speaker 14: To get back?

861
00:43:20,653 --> 00:43:21,373
Speaker 2: What business are you?

862
00:43:21,413 --> 00:43:21,813
Speaker 3: And Marris?

863
00:43:22,933 --> 00:43:25,213
Speaker 16: Oh look we find just on ninety thousand stock you

864
00:43:26,533 --> 00:43:28,893
Speaker 16: and so they're all farmers, you know what I mean. Yeah,

865
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Speaker 16: we've had a couple of those what do you call them,

866
00:43:31,333 --> 00:43:36,333
Speaker 16: toxic hemophilix? So whatever you call them, emotional there the

867
00:43:36,453 --> 00:43:38,493
Speaker 16: secret to its right, And I worked out how to

868
00:43:38,493 --> 00:43:39,053
Speaker 16: get them.

869
00:43:39,373 --> 00:43:40,172
Speaker 17: I explained things.

870
00:43:40,213 --> 00:43:42,893
Speaker 16: And we've got thoroughbreds and race horses and stuff like that.

871
00:43:43,093 --> 00:43:45,933
Speaker 16: And there's an example of not having people who are

872
00:43:45,973 --> 00:43:49,053
Speaker 16: going to be toxic, because I don't think it's it's

873
00:43:49,133 --> 00:43:52,133
Speaker 16: me who's toxic. I think it's those people who who

874
00:43:52,533 --> 00:43:55,413
Speaker 16: are offended by everything. I had one girl, we're going

875
00:43:55,453 --> 00:43:57,813
Speaker 16: to employ it, I father than the she was offended,

876
00:43:57,933 --> 00:44:00,613
Speaker 16: well that sister beginning was it a bit.

877
00:44:00,613 --> 00:44:03,293
Speaker 2: But okay, but just Marris, what are we talking here?

878
00:44:03,573 --> 00:44:05,093
Speaker 2: Was that I don't want to get into the details.

879
00:44:05,093 --> 00:44:07,652
Speaker 2: We're talking silent but violent, loud, proud, what are we talking?

880
00:44:07,813 --> 00:44:07,973
Speaker 6: You know?

881
00:44:08,453 --> 00:44:11,013
Speaker 16: Been loudly routing and but you know, And she was

882
00:44:11,053 --> 00:44:12,213
Speaker 16: sitting there and I thought, well, no, we're not going

883
00:44:12,253 --> 00:44:14,333
Speaker 16: to employ her. We had another young lady who'd come

884
00:44:14,333 --> 00:44:17,333
Speaker 16: to work with a thoroughbudge. She was an expert, and

885
00:44:17,373 --> 00:44:19,292
Speaker 16: I explained to how you handle appliqular horse.

886
00:44:19,333 --> 00:44:20,853
Speaker 17: She didn't listen because she knew more than me.

887
00:44:21,253 --> 00:44:22,813
Speaker 16: And then she got a broken collar bone because she

888
00:44:22,813 --> 00:44:24,893
Speaker 16: didn't listen because a horse banger into a pole, and

889
00:44:24,933 --> 00:44:26,373
Speaker 16: explain how you do it, and you want to see

890
00:44:26,373 --> 00:44:29,613
Speaker 16: your people listen, and she didn't. So well was he

891
00:44:29,613 --> 00:44:31,573
Speaker 16: didn't employ her. She took us to the employment caught

892
00:44:31,613 --> 00:44:34,573
Speaker 16: to blame with us, and lucky everything was I video

893
00:44:34,613 --> 00:44:38,093
Speaker 16: everything because I want no comeback, and so we nothing

894
00:44:38,133 --> 00:44:40,413
Speaker 16: happened there, And so what once you get through that

895
00:44:40,813 --> 00:44:42,973
Speaker 16: find out whether they are idiots? We then take them

896
00:44:43,013 --> 00:44:45,213
Speaker 16: and you get the final four candidates, and I take

897
00:44:45,253 --> 00:44:47,333
Speaker 16: them out for laps and get them absolutely plies and

898
00:44:47,373 --> 00:44:50,493
Speaker 16: full of alcohol because alcohol is the greatest leveler. And

899
00:44:50,533 --> 00:44:52,693
Speaker 16: you find out what you're going to get. You know

900
00:44:52,733 --> 00:44:55,333
Speaker 16: who's a know it all, who's loud now, and who's

901
00:44:55,333 --> 00:44:57,733
Speaker 16: going to be the toxic one, and who's real straight

902
00:44:57,773 --> 00:44:59,853
Speaker 16: and square that you won't fit in the groove. And

903
00:45:00,133 --> 00:45:02,413
Speaker 16: what we do now we employed people that fit in

904
00:45:02,493 --> 00:45:04,813
Speaker 16: with us because we've got an environment. Look, I even

905
00:45:04,893 --> 00:45:06,453
Speaker 16: had a staff change in eight years.

906
00:45:07,693 --> 00:45:11,533
Speaker 3: But and I'll rent, and I'll raise, and I'll.

907
00:45:11,333 --> 00:45:13,893
Speaker 16: Give you a serve, but most guys will ring you

908
00:45:13,933 --> 00:45:15,692
Speaker 16: up once I've calved down two days later.

909
00:45:15,693 --> 00:45:17,453
Speaker 18: A sorry, bro, I deserve that I was.

910
00:45:17,413 --> 00:45:19,653
Speaker 13: A bit of an idiots.

911
00:45:19,933 --> 00:45:24,293
Speaker 2: Your job, your job interview involves you unleashing and the

912
00:45:24,453 --> 00:45:26,933
Speaker 2: ute and then taking the person out for a few drinks.

913
00:45:27,493 --> 00:45:30,013
Speaker 18: Oh and then you find out. So you find out

914
00:45:30,013 --> 00:45:31,333
Speaker 18: who who you.

915
00:45:31,333 --> 00:45:33,013
Speaker 16: Think is going to fit them mold with the group.

916
00:45:33,253 --> 00:45:35,733
Speaker 16: And it's not about I don't care if a person's

917
00:45:35,893 --> 00:45:37,573
Speaker 16: that they could be the greatest brain in the world.

918
00:45:37,653 --> 00:45:39,933
Speaker 16: They could be everything I want, you know, but they

919
00:45:39,933 --> 00:45:41,453
Speaker 16: don't fit them with the group. And then the group

920
00:45:41,493 --> 00:45:42,533
Speaker 16: goes really really good.

921
00:45:42,893 --> 00:45:43,772
Speaker 19: Then I don't want them.

922
00:45:43,973 --> 00:45:45,933
Speaker 16: And are they going to moan and winge about me

923
00:45:46,173 --> 00:45:48,093
Speaker 16: dropping me number ones in the in the in the

924
00:45:48,253 --> 00:45:50,973
Speaker 16: ute or or burping or picking your nose and be

925
00:45:51,053 --> 00:45:51,893
Speaker 16: offended by that?

926
00:45:52,333 --> 00:45:53,693
Speaker 13: They're not then a little.

927
00:45:53,453 --> 00:45:54,573
Speaker 19: Bit too PC for us.

928
00:45:54,933 --> 00:45:57,693
Speaker 16: And and we've got girls that work for us, and

929
00:45:57,733 --> 00:46:01,053
Speaker 16: we've got brokes and they respect each other. And you know,

930
00:46:01,253 --> 00:46:04,253
Speaker 16: there's certain things I don't tolerate with boys being sexist

931
00:46:04,253 --> 00:46:06,133
Speaker 16: towards them and stuff like that, you know, in any

932
00:46:06,173 --> 00:46:07,053
Speaker 16: of those kind of stations, I.

933
00:46:07,093 --> 00:46:07,933
Speaker 2: Don't tolerate that.

934
00:46:08,493 --> 00:46:11,333
Speaker 16: And but you've got to be liberal and free to

935
00:46:11,373 --> 00:46:13,573
Speaker 16: be your own self and be your individual and you

936
00:46:13,813 --> 00:46:16,652
Speaker 16: and where I think it's all gone wrong is that

937
00:46:16,973 --> 00:46:19,212
Speaker 16: you can't do anything so you never get the best

938
00:46:19,213 --> 00:46:21,093
Speaker 16: out of you staff because they're always walking on eggshows.

939
00:46:21,093 --> 00:46:22,173
Speaker 17: I don't want to offend anyone.

940
00:46:22,933 --> 00:46:25,413
Speaker 3: Yeah, So Morris, if you take if you take these

941
00:46:25,533 --> 00:46:28,253
Speaker 3: employees potential employees out for a booze night, what are

942
00:46:28,253 --> 00:46:30,293
Speaker 3: you looking for? I mean, if I was wanting a

943
00:46:30,373 --> 00:46:32,293
Speaker 3: job and you take me out and I smash back

944
00:46:32,333 --> 00:46:34,133
Speaker 3: ten beers and jump on the table and have a

945
00:46:34,173 --> 00:46:36,333
Speaker 3: great time and get on the karaoke. Am I what

946
00:46:36,373 --> 00:46:37,013
Speaker 3: you're looking for?

947
00:46:37,853 --> 00:46:38,573
Speaker 13: Absolutely?

948
00:46:39,333 --> 00:46:40,533
Speaker 20: I don't like you know.

949
00:46:40,693 --> 00:46:43,533
Speaker 16: You know, we farm eighties outher stock units and we've

950
00:46:43,533 --> 00:46:45,973
Speaker 16: got other investments, you know, all around the country. The

951
00:46:46,053 --> 00:46:48,173
Speaker 16: last thing I want is to know it all. You know,

952
00:46:48,213 --> 00:46:50,453
Speaker 16: when a guy gets drunk, all of a sudden, they're

953
00:46:50,453 --> 00:46:51,533
Speaker 16: coming you how to run your business?

954
00:46:52,493 --> 00:46:56,373
Speaker 2: Hit that is that that is a mistake that a

955
00:46:56,453 --> 00:47:00,013
Speaker 2: lot of people do when they're out drinking with management,

956
00:47:00,053 --> 00:47:02,253
Speaker 2: with the boss taking them aside and telling them how

957
00:47:02,293 --> 00:47:03,413
Speaker 2: to run the company.

958
00:47:05,333 --> 00:47:08,093
Speaker 16: And see, alcohol is the greatest leveler, and you find

959
00:47:08,093 --> 00:47:11,253
Speaker 16: out the piece I think you need to improve this

960
00:47:11,293 --> 00:47:15,173
Speaker 16: part of your business or that part. You know, this

961
00:47:15,333 --> 00:47:17,053
Speaker 16: is not the time you tell me that you know,

962
00:47:17,453 --> 00:47:19,252
Speaker 16: you've been there for eight months in tell we yeah,

963
00:47:19,293 --> 00:47:20,413
Speaker 16: you know, and I don't want to know.

964
00:47:20,373 --> 00:47:22,173
Speaker 17: Your weakness is stre because I've just interviewed you.

965
00:47:22,373 --> 00:47:26,093
Speaker 2: Well, we're coming up and we're coming into Christmas party season, Morris,

966
00:47:26,133 --> 00:47:28,013
Speaker 2: And so that is actually probably a warning for people

967
00:47:28,013 --> 00:47:31,693
Speaker 2: across the country the time to bail your boss up

968
00:47:31,733 --> 00:47:34,373
Speaker 2: in the corner of the room and get into deep

969
00:47:34,453 --> 00:47:38,213
Speaker 2: shop shop shop talk. Not that time, No, not that

970
00:47:38,293 --> 00:47:40,613
Speaker 2: time to do it in the proper way back at work.

971
00:47:40,733 --> 00:47:43,413
Speaker 2: Just have a good time. Do what Tyler does. He

972
00:47:43,413 --> 00:47:45,813
Speaker 2: he gets steamed, has ten beers, he stands on the table,

973
00:47:45,933 --> 00:47:48,093
Speaker 2: he'll put a toilet seat around his neck, he'll pull

974
00:47:48,133 --> 00:47:50,773
Speaker 2: his pants down and he'll sing karaoke and gain a

975
00:47:50,813 --> 00:47:54,933
Speaker 2: lot of respect this job. Yeah, that was the that

976
00:47:55,053 --> 00:47:59,533
Speaker 2: was the process for picking you. That and I unleashed

977
00:47:59,533 --> 00:48:00,693
Speaker 2: in the ute on the way here.

978
00:48:00,733 --> 00:48:03,933
Speaker 3: Like Morris, you eat a lot of cheese. Oh eight

979
00:48:03,933 --> 00:48:05,813
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

980
00:48:05,973 --> 00:48:07,933
Speaker 3: It is fourteen past two.

981
00:48:08,773 --> 00:48:12,573
Speaker 2: There's just a text here. Someone said around the Jason

982
00:48:12,613 --> 00:48:16,013
Speaker 2: Gunn and the chat with Morgan pen did she ask

983
00:48:16,053 --> 00:48:18,493
Speaker 2: about his thingy? That's juvenile from you text in nineteen

984
00:48:18,613 --> 00:48:20,933
Speaker 2: nine two. No, it's very good.

985
00:48:21,453 --> 00:48:22,533
Speaker 3: There's fourteen past.

986
00:48:23,933 --> 00:48:28,652
Speaker 1: Your new home of afternoon Torthen Taylor Adams afternoon call,

987
00:48:28,813 --> 00:48:30,373
Speaker 1: oh eight hundred eighty gen eighty.

988
00:48:30,533 --> 00:48:31,533
Speaker 2: News talk said, be.

989
00:48:33,213 --> 00:48:36,252
Speaker 3: Seventeen past two. We have been talking about toxic workplaces.

990
00:48:36,373 --> 00:48:38,853
Speaker 2: Yeah, are the perception of top toxic workplaces? Six later,

991
00:48:38,853 --> 00:48:40,813
Speaker 2: start A revealed sixty three percent of New Zealand workers

992
00:48:40,813 --> 00:48:43,772
Speaker 2: have been in a toxic workplace in the past, and

993
00:48:44,013 --> 00:48:46,973
Speaker 2: I'm saying, well, they claim to have been a toxic workplace.

994
00:48:47,013 --> 00:48:49,293
Speaker 2: What is a toxic workplace? What's okay? I want to

995
00:48:49,293 --> 00:48:53,013
Speaker 2: hear from HOSPO because I understand historically that was a

996
00:48:53,053 --> 00:48:54,853
Speaker 2: place where everyone got yelled at. We've got a side

997
00:48:54,853 --> 00:48:56,812
Speaker 2: issue going here with Barry's. I've got a son who's

998
00:48:56,853 --> 00:48:59,172
Speaker 2: fifteen called Barry. We were talking to a ninety five

999
00:48:59,213 --> 00:49:01,013
Speaker 2: year old Barry. So I was asking if Barry is

1000
00:49:01,053 --> 00:49:03,533
Speaker 2: still a name out there. My son's friend's brother is

1001
00:49:03,533 --> 00:49:06,213
Speaker 2: called Barry. Matt, you might be onto something here with

1002
00:49:06,253 --> 00:49:08,293
Speaker 2: the name Barry, I said, I've never met a bad Barry.

1003
00:49:08,773 --> 00:49:10,893
Speaker 2: This person has a dog named Kevin, and he can

1004
00:49:10,893 --> 00:49:13,773
Speaker 2: be a bit mischievous around other dogs, especially my flatmates

1005
00:49:13,893 --> 00:49:17,013
Speaker 2: rot wheeler named Dave. So this Barry is a good

1006
00:49:17,053 --> 00:49:18,933
Speaker 2: barrier but has a problem with Dave's But whenever he

1007
00:49:18,973 --> 00:49:21,453
Speaker 2: is around my mate's pug is always in his best behavior.

1008
00:49:21,453 --> 00:49:23,853
Speaker 2: The pug's name is Barry. That's from Henry.

1009
00:49:24,013 --> 00:49:27,133
Speaker 3: It's some solid dog names. Kevin, Barry, and Dave.

1010
00:49:27,213 --> 00:49:29,333
Speaker 2: Wow, my dog. They should get together with my dog.

1011
00:49:29,373 --> 00:49:29,653
Speaker 3: Colin.

1012
00:49:30,333 --> 00:49:32,493
Speaker 2: Colin Barry and Dave would have a great time.

1013
00:49:32,653 --> 00:49:34,293
Speaker 3: Well, I think Nick wants to talk about being a

1014
00:49:34,333 --> 00:49:34,893
Speaker 3: Barry as well.

1015
00:49:34,933 --> 00:49:38,973
Speaker 2: Get a Nick, a mate, get a So you're you're

1016
00:49:39,293 --> 00:49:40,652
Speaker 2: you want to talk about being a Barry. But your

1017
00:49:40,733 --> 00:49:41,252
Speaker 2: name's Nick.

1018
00:49:42,213 --> 00:49:47,853
Speaker 21: Well, my middle name is Barry, and I'm named for

1019
00:49:48,493 --> 00:49:50,373
Speaker 21: my mother's uncle who was a Barry.

1020
00:49:50,573 --> 00:49:51,212
Speaker 2: Was he a good guy?

1021
00:49:52,173 --> 00:49:52,373
Speaker 4: He was.

1022
00:49:52,573 --> 00:49:55,733
Speaker 21: He was a fantastic dude and passed away about the

1023
00:49:55,733 --> 00:49:58,732
Speaker 21: time that I was born, which is why the transparence

1024
00:49:58,773 --> 00:50:01,093
Speaker 21: of Barry from him to me.

1025
00:50:01,133 --> 00:50:01,533
Speaker 11: You heard?

1026
00:50:02,613 --> 00:50:05,613
Speaker 2: And do you think that that that that middle name

1027
00:50:05,613 --> 00:50:08,493
Speaker 2: has served you well in your life? Nick, Barry?

1028
00:50:09,133 --> 00:50:13,253
Speaker 22: To be honest, I think it is. I mean, initially

1029
00:50:13,413 --> 00:50:15,772
Speaker 22: it took a bit. It's taken a couple of years

1030
00:50:15,813 --> 00:50:18,453
Speaker 22: to feel the name on myself. But I feel I've

1031
00:50:18,493 --> 00:50:19,653
Speaker 22: thrown into a bit of a Barrie.

1032
00:50:20,173 --> 00:50:21,373
Speaker 3: It's good, it's good.

1033
00:50:21,573 --> 00:50:23,013
Speaker 2: There is something about a Barrie.

1034
00:50:23,133 --> 00:50:25,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a solid name. Yeah, I think about it.

1035
00:50:25,013 --> 00:50:27,693
Speaker 2: When I think of a BARRYE they're they're they're often practical,

1036
00:50:28,293 --> 00:50:32,693
Speaker 2: They've often got a good joke, and there's generally a

1037
00:50:32,733 --> 00:50:33,413
Speaker 2: solid gin.

1038
00:50:35,053 --> 00:50:35,893
Speaker 22: Absolutely true in.

1039
00:50:35,813 --> 00:50:40,652
Speaker 21: My case, well well mannered, polite, kind old ladies I

1040
00:50:40,653 --> 00:50:42,213
Speaker 21: think represent Brairies pretty decently.

1041
00:50:42,453 --> 00:50:46,813
Speaker 2: And sometimes some barries will suffer from builder's crack. That's

1042
00:50:46,853 --> 00:50:49,853
Speaker 2: just that's just the fact of life with barries. Thank

1043
00:50:49,853 --> 00:50:51,053
Speaker 2: you so much for your call, and I hope you

1044
00:50:51,093 --> 00:50:52,333
Speaker 2: go well with that middle name Nick.

1045
00:50:53,813 --> 00:50:55,533
Speaker 3: Jason, how are you this afternoon?

1046
00:50:56,813 --> 00:50:57,693
Speaker 4: Oh? Good guys.

1047
00:50:57,733 --> 00:51:00,053
Speaker 20: Hey, listen that guy you had on before talking about

1048
00:51:00,053 --> 00:51:03,493
Speaker 20: fueling up, steaming up as work force with alcohol to

1049
00:51:03,493 --> 00:51:05,733
Speaker 20: get the truth out and we'll see what they're getting.

1050
00:51:05,733 --> 00:51:07,813
Speaker 20: Maybe that's the top of your next one next week

1051
00:51:07,973 --> 00:51:11,213
Speaker 20: is is anything good ever happened out of Christmas staff function?

1052
00:51:11,733 --> 00:51:11,973
Speaker 19: Yeah?

1053
00:51:12,213 --> 00:51:12,933
Speaker 3: Great topic.

1054
00:51:13,533 --> 00:51:15,893
Speaker 2: I've got a lot of thoughts on this, Jason. I

1055
00:51:15,933 --> 00:51:18,853
Speaker 2: think if you're going to Christmas function, the best you

1056
00:51:18,893 --> 00:51:21,093
Speaker 2: can come out is even in that situation.

1057
00:51:21,253 --> 00:51:25,453
Speaker 20: You can come out of the drinks. Yeah, hey, listen

1058
00:51:25,533 --> 00:51:27,693
Speaker 20: back to your original topic, you know, toxic. I I

1059
00:51:28,573 --> 00:51:30,333
Speaker 20: I sort of was listening to what he was saying

1060
00:51:30,373 --> 00:51:32,293
Speaker 20: about that, you know, the same guy that was talking.

1061
00:51:32,373 --> 00:51:34,093
Speaker 20: I half to agree with him, Like, you know, are

1062
00:51:34,093 --> 00:51:38,333
Speaker 20: we saying that environment's toxic? Are we saying that suddenly heaven?

1063
00:51:38,373 --> 00:51:38,893
Speaker 1: For bird?

1064
00:51:39,333 --> 00:51:42,293
Speaker 20: Employee is one you know set a bit of you know,

1065
00:51:42,733 --> 00:51:46,252
Speaker 20: expectations about the who work for them, and I've seen

1066
00:51:46,293 --> 00:51:49,933
Speaker 20: many examples and that guy mentioned earlier about Mark Hayer,

1067
00:51:50,693 --> 00:51:53,453
Speaker 20: the you know, the hockey coach for New Zealand Woman,

1068
00:51:53,533 --> 00:51:55,933
Speaker 20: and and all of a sudden, you know, you see

1069
00:51:56,213 --> 00:51:59,212
Speaker 20: outcoming you know, normally in the public sector too, when

1070
00:51:59,213 --> 00:52:01,172
Speaker 20: you know you've got retirement commissions and that you know

1071
00:52:01,213 --> 00:52:04,093
Speaker 20: when balling cases. Is it that it's toxic or is

1072
00:52:04,093 --> 00:52:06,453
Speaker 20: that suddenly, as I said, Heaven for bid, you know,

1073
00:52:06,533 --> 00:52:10,212
Speaker 20: we want to set some cape eyes and actually see

1074
00:52:10,213 --> 00:52:13,013
Speaker 20: what you do for taking your forty hours paycheck a week.

1075
00:52:13,533 --> 00:52:15,533
Speaker 20: Does that suddenly make the environment toxic?

1076
00:52:16,773 --> 00:52:17,013
Speaker 13: Yeah?

1077
00:52:17,053 --> 00:52:20,933
Speaker 2: Well, I mean there's definitely obviously there are toxic workplaces

1078
00:52:20,973 --> 00:52:23,732
Speaker 2: and there are people, but there is I think there's

1079
00:52:23,813 --> 00:52:26,333
Speaker 2: If the expectation is that you are never going to

1080
00:52:26,413 --> 00:52:28,933
Speaker 2: get yelled at and things are never going to get robust,

1081
00:52:28,933 --> 00:52:31,253
Speaker 2: and there's never going to be certain kinds of jokes

1082
00:52:31,253 --> 00:52:34,773
Speaker 2: going on, then you may feel like you're being treated unfairly.

1083
00:52:34,853 --> 00:52:37,093
Speaker 2: So do you think expectation might be a big part

1084
00:52:37,133 --> 00:52:37,293
Speaker 2: of it?

1085
00:52:37,373 --> 00:52:41,732
Speaker 20: Jason, Well, I think we're confusing that. You know, I'm

1086
00:52:41,733 --> 00:52:45,053
Speaker 20: an intoxic environment, so suddenly my employees are asking some

1087
00:52:45,133 --> 00:52:48,853
Speaker 20: fear of hard questions on my performance. Now you can't

1088
00:52:48,853 --> 00:52:51,093
Speaker 20: touch people now these days because of the wakeness that

1089
00:52:51,133 --> 00:52:53,692
Speaker 20: we find ourselves in New Zealand that suddenly you can

1090
00:52:53,813 --> 00:52:56,853
Speaker 20: take any right case of r can you can be

1091
00:52:56,853 --> 00:52:59,212
Speaker 20: put on gardenly for five to six months on full

1092
00:52:59,253 --> 00:53:01,453
Speaker 20: pay and the poor guy that's trying to get you know,

1093
00:53:01,613 --> 00:53:06,493
Speaker 20: performance out of his workforce is suddenly down the road. Yeah,

1094
00:53:06,573 --> 00:53:09,493
Speaker 20: So have we gone too far the other way? I

1095
00:53:09,533 --> 00:53:12,652
Speaker 20: think possibly we have. On no question that there are examples,

1096
00:53:12,973 --> 00:53:15,893
Speaker 20: many of them where toxikers are right phrase to use,

1097
00:53:16,533 --> 00:53:20,053
Speaker 20: and mainly hospitality. The kitchen scene you said before, you

1098
00:53:20,053 --> 00:53:21,973
Speaker 20: know that would be a terrible pressure cooker place to

1099
00:53:22,013 --> 00:53:25,172
Speaker 20: be in there. But you know, it's a little bit

1100
00:53:25,213 --> 00:53:27,173
Speaker 20: widespread for me, and I think we suddenly going to

1101
00:53:27,173 --> 00:53:29,613
Speaker 20: look ourselves and say, you know, what was wrong ten

1102
00:53:29,693 --> 00:53:31,813
Speaker 20: fifteen years ago and the bloss would call you up

1103
00:53:31,813 --> 00:53:34,333
Speaker 20: and call you a bloody use or so and so,

1104
00:53:34,493 --> 00:53:37,533
Speaker 20: and you'd pull your pants up and suddenly perform that

1105
00:53:37,613 --> 00:53:38,013
Speaker 20: these days.

1106
00:53:38,613 --> 00:53:41,692
Speaker 2: It's certainly happened to me that I've been yelled at.

1107
00:53:41,893 --> 00:53:45,813
Speaker 2: But I guess ideally, if you're a boss, and if

1108
00:53:45,853 --> 00:53:49,212
Speaker 2: you can have a stern word rather than losing your rag,

1109
00:53:49,213 --> 00:53:51,053
Speaker 2: if you know what I mean. But by getting angry

1110
00:53:51,053 --> 00:53:54,293
Speaker 2: and screaming in a way, you lose some of your dignity.

1111
00:53:54,813 --> 00:53:57,613
Speaker 2: But having a stern word, and look, if it's a

1112
00:53:57,653 --> 00:54:00,893
Speaker 2: situation where someone's about to injure themselves, then you need

1113
00:54:00,973 --> 00:54:02,933
Speaker 2: to you might need to fire up in a second.

1114
00:54:03,133 --> 00:54:06,133
Speaker 2: But going back to Morris, who rang up before, and

1115
00:54:06,493 --> 00:54:10,172
Speaker 2: he didn't want to employ someone because he broke wind

1116
00:54:10,173 --> 00:54:12,093
Speaker 2: in the ute.

1117
00:54:11,893 --> 00:54:14,732
Speaker 3: And keept the windows up and a terrible.

1118
00:54:14,373 --> 00:54:18,293
Speaker 2: Smell, and that particular employ didn't like that. And also

1119
00:54:18,493 --> 00:54:21,013
Speaker 2: you know, takes them out on for a few drinks

1120
00:54:21,013 --> 00:54:25,373
Speaker 2: and how they behave on that he judges them going forward,

1121
00:54:26,733 --> 00:54:28,933
Speaker 2: and most of the texts on nine two nine two

1122
00:54:29,093 --> 00:54:31,213
Speaker 2: have been positive for that. But here's another side to

1123
00:54:31,253 --> 00:54:34,733
Speaker 2: that that someone's sent through. Morris doesn't want the best workers.

1124
00:54:34,773 --> 00:54:37,293
Speaker 2: He wants people just like himself. In my opinion, he's

1125
00:54:37,333 --> 00:54:40,413
Speaker 2: a narcissist and wants people like him but less than

1126
00:54:40,453 --> 00:54:42,413
Speaker 2: him so he can control. I would be happy to

1127
00:54:42,453 --> 00:54:44,533
Speaker 2: walk out of an interview with a person like that.

1128
00:54:44,973 --> 00:54:49,652
Speaker 2: And yeah, you absolutely have the right, Yeah, to be

1129
00:54:49,733 --> 00:54:52,333
Speaker 2: fair to Morris, I made up the interview scenario. He

1130
00:54:52,533 --> 00:54:55,732
Speaker 2: wasn't doing those things in the interview. He wasn't getting people,

1131
00:54:57,093 --> 00:54:59,453
Speaker 2: he wasn't having beers with people in the interview, and

1132
00:54:59,453 --> 00:55:01,773
Speaker 2: they're letting rip. That's not what he was doing. But

1133
00:55:01,813 --> 00:55:04,493
Speaker 2: he was saying, in the wider case of working with

1134
00:55:04,573 --> 00:55:08,613
Speaker 2: them in the trial period of whatever, how precious they were.

1135
00:55:09,333 --> 00:55:12,213
Speaker 2: And I've got another text through here on two working

1136
00:55:12,213 --> 00:55:15,652
Speaker 2: with Glane as toxic. Yeah that's Glaye, the boss of

1137
00:55:15,693 --> 00:55:18,933
Speaker 2: the Alternative Commentary Collective, which is a sports commentary team

1138
00:55:18,973 --> 00:55:20,613
Speaker 2: I'm part of. Yeah, Glane is toxic.

1139
00:55:20,653 --> 00:55:22,013
Speaker 3: Shall we get him on the phone and make him

1140
00:55:22,213 --> 00:55:23,093
Speaker 3: answer for his crimes?

1141
00:55:23,133 --> 00:55:25,053
Speaker 2: He's toxic and generally intoxicated.

1142
00:55:25,853 --> 00:55:28,093
Speaker 3: One hundred eighty ten eighties and number to call it

1143
00:55:28,133 --> 00:55:29,293
Speaker 3: is twenty four past.

1144
00:55:29,093 --> 00:55:37,333
Speaker 1: Two, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons call Oh, eight hundred

1145
00:55:37,413 --> 00:55:39,413
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on youth Talk said.

1146
00:55:39,253 --> 00:55:43,373
Speaker 3: Be good afternoon. We are talking about perceived toxic workplaces,

1147
00:55:43,413 --> 00:55:46,212
Speaker 3: but a lot of chat about yelling on the work site.

1148
00:55:46,253 --> 00:55:48,172
Speaker 3: And I said before, my old Manny he ran his

1149
00:55:48,213 --> 00:55:51,813
Speaker 3: own sparky business, massive yeller on the construction side. And

1150
00:55:51,853 --> 00:55:53,093
Speaker 3: I know because I was a labor for him, so

1151
00:55:53,133 --> 00:55:54,973
Speaker 3: he yelled at me many times. But he was kind

1152
00:55:55,013 --> 00:55:57,613
Speaker 3: of feared on the site when he turned up and said, Ray,

1153
00:55:57,653 --> 00:55:58,652
Speaker 3: here's Paul lad Did.

1154
00:55:58,533 --> 00:56:00,213
Speaker 2: He yell at you more than he yelled at the

1155
00:56:00,253 --> 00:56:01,293
Speaker 2: other workers.

1156
00:56:01,133 --> 00:56:05,413
Speaker 3: About the same Actually it was diplomatic yelling. But here's why.

1157
00:56:05,773 --> 00:56:07,853
Speaker 3: And the one that I recall he yelled at me

1158
00:56:07,893 --> 00:56:09,693
Speaker 3: the most is that I cut the GiB in the

1159
00:56:09,693 --> 00:56:12,573
Speaker 3: wrong place for the PowerPoint and he comes storming in

1160
00:56:13,333 --> 00:56:16,613
Speaker 3: and just loses that because the whole wall is buggered

1161
00:56:16,653 --> 00:56:19,173
Speaker 3: by that stage, so he picks up his pliers chucks

1162
00:56:19,213 --> 00:56:20,973
Speaker 3: them through the jib walls. I'm dead. You've just made

1163
00:56:21,013 --> 00:56:23,533
Speaker 3: it even worse. It doesn't matter. The whole thing's ruined.

1164
00:56:23,773 --> 00:56:25,733
Speaker 3: And the reason he flipped out because that cost him

1165
00:56:25,773 --> 00:56:27,893
Speaker 3: a lot of money. So looking back, I can understand

1166
00:56:27,893 --> 00:56:29,413
Speaker 3: that I've got a question for you, Tyler. That did

1167
00:56:29,613 --> 00:56:30,373
Speaker 3: help the situation?

1168
00:56:31,093 --> 00:56:34,573
Speaker 2: Did it change? Did it did it set things up

1169
00:56:34,573 --> 00:56:36,853
Speaker 2: such that you didn't make mistakes that again? Or did

1170
00:56:36,853 --> 00:56:38,613
Speaker 2: it Did it make you angry at him? Do you

1171
00:56:38,613 --> 00:56:41,973
Speaker 2: think it was a successful strategy, And look, it's unlikely

1172
00:56:42,013 --> 00:56:43,613
Speaker 2: that it was a strategy. I think he probably just

1173
00:56:43,893 --> 00:56:46,293
Speaker 2: blew his top. But do you think that was helpful

1174
00:56:46,293 --> 00:56:47,893
Speaker 2: in the workplace? How did you feel about it? Did

1175
00:56:47,893 --> 00:56:48,693
Speaker 2: it make you better.

1176
00:56:49,693 --> 00:56:51,733
Speaker 3: I never cut GiB in the wrong place again for

1177
00:56:51,733 --> 00:56:53,973
Speaker 3: a PowerPoint, So it worked in that circumstance.

1178
00:56:54,053 --> 00:56:56,373
Speaker 2: So you thought, you know, you know, measured twice and

1179
00:56:56,413 --> 00:56:57,533
Speaker 2: cut once kind of situation.

1180
00:56:57,573 --> 00:56:59,093
Speaker 3: Well, no, it's a good point actually because when he

1181
00:56:59,453 --> 00:57:01,172
Speaker 3: calmed down and it took him a couple of hours

1182
00:57:01,373 --> 00:57:03,293
Speaker 3: when he went off site and then he came back

1183
00:57:03,493 --> 00:57:05,533
Speaker 3: and what he realizes he didn't teach me how to

1184
00:57:05,573 --> 00:57:07,853
Speaker 3: read the plans properly. So then at that point he

1185
00:57:07,933 --> 00:57:11,333
Speaker 3: said down, he apologized and said, yeah, right, we're going

1186
00:57:11,373 --> 00:57:12,973
Speaker 3: to figure out how to read the plans, probably because

1187
00:57:13,013 --> 00:57:14,692
Speaker 3: you misread it and you cut in the wrong place

1188
00:57:14,733 --> 00:57:16,493
Speaker 3: and that whole wall is buggered. Now I going to

1189
00:57:16,533 --> 00:57:18,533
Speaker 3: pay the jib stoppers. That's going to cost me five grand.

1190
00:57:18,693 --> 00:57:21,333
Speaker 3: So we all understood why hear.

1191
00:57:21,893 --> 00:57:23,773
Speaker 2: Yeah, But so if he had to leave the work site,

1192
00:57:23,893 --> 00:57:26,853
Speaker 2: then look, I don't know your dad, but everything you

1193
00:57:26,893 --> 00:57:28,373
Speaker 2: said about me, he sounds like he's a great man.

1194
00:57:28,413 --> 00:57:31,333
Speaker 2: He is a very good man. But that doesn't seem

1195
00:57:31,373 --> 00:57:33,093
Speaker 2: like that was the most productive way to do it.

1196
00:57:33,613 --> 00:57:35,573
Speaker 2: Because he's had to leave that he's got so heated,

1197
00:57:35,613 --> 00:57:37,573
Speaker 2: he's had to leave the work site for a period

1198
00:57:37,613 --> 00:57:40,293
Speaker 2: of time. So I think you can be robust, but

1199
00:57:40,413 --> 00:57:43,453
Speaker 2: if you absolutely lose it and start throwing things around,

1200
00:57:44,213 --> 00:57:47,373
Speaker 2: then I know. I don't think that necessarily makes it

1201
00:57:47,453 --> 00:57:49,413
Speaker 2: a toxic workplace, but it doesn't necessarily make it the

1202
00:57:49,413 --> 00:57:52,573
Speaker 2: most functional workplace at that particular time, does it.

1203
00:57:52,693 --> 00:57:54,653
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was way happier when he sold the business.

1204
00:57:55,373 --> 00:57:55,573
Speaker 23: That.

1205
00:57:57,293 --> 00:57:59,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got the good text here that I think

1206
00:57:59,133 --> 00:58:03,893
Speaker 2: could be potentially contentious and actually starts with probably contentious.

1207
00:58:03,893 --> 00:58:08,773
Speaker 2: This is from a female probably contentious, But I found

1208
00:58:08,853 --> 00:58:12,213
Speaker 2: over my lengthy working career that predominantly female work environments

1209
00:58:12,253 --> 00:58:16,493
Speaker 2: often make for a bitchy, toxy toxic, mean girl environment.

1210
00:58:16,893 --> 00:58:20,813
Speaker 2: The alpha females gather their minions and then proceed to

1211
00:58:20,853 --> 00:58:24,093
Speaker 2: bad mouth, undermine, play favorites, and gossip about those not

1212
00:58:24,293 --> 00:58:27,813
Speaker 2: in their group or team. So I want to hear

1213
00:58:27,853 --> 00:58:30,573
Speaker 2: from females on THEAY one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1214
00:58:30,573 --> 00:58:33,373
Speaker 2: Do you think that's an unfair representation. I'm sure it

1215
00:58:33,413 --> 00:58:36,613
Speaker 2: happens in some places, but is that as Can you

1216
00:58:36,693 --> 00:58:42,853
Speaker 2: generalize and say that that predominantly female work environments tend

1217
00:58:42,893 --> 00:58:44,333
Speaker 2: towards toxicity?

1218
00:58:44,693 --> 00:58:47,453
Speaker 3: Well that's from Assandra as well, so clearly a female worker.

1219
00:58:47,733 --> 00:58:49,413
Speaker 3: Sam you've just left left a job.

1220
00:58:51,013 --> 00:58:55,093
Speaker 24: Oh yeah, yeah, earlier in the year. But my main

1221
00:58:55,133 --> 00:58:58,453
Speaker 24: point was on both sides. But whether you're the one

1222
00:58:58,613 --> 00:59:01,373
Speaker 24: crying because everyone's being mean or whether you're yelling and

1223
00:59:01,453 --> 00:59:05,173
Speaker 24: saying everyone's soft, we're not very good at looking within

1224
00:59:05,213 --> 00:59:07,733
Speaker 24: ourselves and saying, how am I affecting the situation?

1225
00:59:08,853 --> 00:59:09,093
Speaker 23: You know what?

1226
00:59:09,133 --> 00:59:09,613
Speaker 4: I remember that?

1227
00:59:09,693 --> 00:59:11,733
Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah, because that the last job I was in,

1228
00:59:11,813 --> 00:59:13,453
Speaker 19: and I was actually sent them quite a while and

1229
00:59:13,573 --> 00:59:15,693
Speaker 19: I started, you know, my mental health had gone south

1230
00:59:15,693 --> 00:59:18,973
Speaker 19: because it's stuff at home, and then work started getting hard.

1231
00:59:19,093 --> 00:59:21,493
Speaker 19: You know, I was bursting into tears in the car

1232
00:59:21,613 --> 00:59:23,973
Speaker 19: and stuff, and I was saying, but it's everyone else's fault,

1233
00:59:24,013 --> 00:59:27,853
Speaker 19: all that sort of stuff. I actually slid into Matt

1234
00:59:27,933 --> 00:59:30,253
Speaker 19: to Yms and we were chatting quite a bit, and

1235
00:59:30,333 --> 00:59:32,053
Speaker 19: it started to make me yet, look at myself, how

1236
00:59:32,093 --> 00:59:35,973
Speaker 19: am I affecting the situation? And yeah, it made me

1237
00:59:36,013 --> 00:59:38,013
Speaker 19: realize that it wasn't everyone else. It was more more

1238
00:59:38,213 --> 00:59:41,533
Speaker 19: me just being negative towards towards the whole lot. But

1239
00:59:41,613 --> 00:59:44,133
Speaker 19: even yeah, I was impressed with what Morris said before

1240
00:59:44,333 --> 00:59:46,653
Speaker 19: even though he's yelling and all that sound a bit bad.

1241
00:59:47,213 --> 00:59:50,333
Speaker 19: He did then realize later on and apologize. I think

1242
00:59:50,373 --> 00:59:53,573
Speaker 19: that's quite important. Yelling at people sometimes like things can

1243
00:59:53,653 --> 00:59:56,013
Speaker 19: get pretty wild, but if you step back later on

1244
00:59:56,053 --> 00:59:57,773
Speaker 19: and go, oh, I probably took things a bit too far,

1245
00:59:57,853 --> 01:00:01,173
Speaker 19: that's very different from the just yelling wildly.

1246
01:00:02,053 --> 01:00:05,373
Speaker 2: Yeah. So if you fire up for some some event

1247
01:00:05,413 --> 01:00:09,253
Speaker 2: that's happened, Sam and and and you know, in the

1248
01:00:09,373 --> 01:00:11,493
Speaker 2: in the in the moment, but then you you calm

1249
01:00:11,533 --> 01:00:13,933
Speaker 2: down and realize you've done the wrong thing, then it

1250
01:00:13,973 --> 01:00:15,653
Speaker 2: would be very hard to blame someone like that. But

1251
01:00:15,733 --> 01:00:20,333
Speaker 2: if if, if someone's been cruel and torturing something, that's

1252
01:00:20,333 --> 01:00:21,573
Speaker 2: a very different thing, isn't it.

1253
01:00:24,093 --> 01:00:24,253
Speaker 25: Yeah.

1254
01:00:24,293 --> 01:00:26,093
Speaker 19: I mean I worked a lot of hospital and there

1255
01:00:26,093 --> 01:00:27,733
Speaker 19: was a lot of yelling, and I did yelling, and

1256
01:00:27,773 --> 01:00:29,453
Speaker 19: I got yelled at, but we were very good at

1257
01:00:29,493 --> 01:00:32,293
Speaker 19: sitting down afterwards and you know, all right, that was

1258
01:00:32,333 --> 01:00:36,173
Speaker 19: a bit move on. Yeah, But there were ones who

1259
01:00:36,173 --> 01:00:37,893
Speaker 19: didn't there too, and they didn't last very long.

1260
01:00:37,933 --> 01:00:39,893
Speaker 3: So why did you leave your jobs?

1261
01:00:39,933 --> 01:00:43,733
Speaker 19: Then I just realized, look, I was at a different

1262
01:00:43,733 --> 01:00:45,653
Speaker 19: stage in my life. I had young kids. It was

1263
01:00:45,733 --> 01:00:47,973
Speaker 19: that was in the liquor industry and stuff. I had

1264
01:00:48,013 --> 01:00:51,133
Speaker 19: to love going out in lava and it probably deteriorated

1265
01:00:51,173 --> 01:00:53,133
Speaker 19: my health and I wasn't handling the long hours and

1266
01:00:53,173 --> 01:00:55,653
Speaker 19: all that, and I was just chatting with my boss.

1267
01:00:55,653 --> 01:00:57,453
Speaker 19: I'm still friends with them. I'm going at the Christmas party.

1268
01:00:57,453 --> 01:00:57,933
Speaker 4: I want to click.

1269
01:00:58,173 --> 01:00:59,533
Speaker 2: Oh okay, that's good and.

1270
01:01:01,093 --> 01:01:02,693
Speaker 19: Where I can probably get away.

1271
01:01:02,493 --> 01:01:03,973
Speaker 3: With a bit more.

1272
01:01:05,493 --> 01:01:07,733
Speaker 19: And yeah, I've completely changed it up and I'm working

1273
01:01:07,733 --> 01:01:09,893
Speaker 19: for myself to gardening and that's just working out better.

1274
01:01:10,013 --> 01:01:11,213
Speaker 19: When you like you kids and all that.

1275
01:01:12,093 --> 01:01:14,133
Speaker 2: Oh good on you, Sam, Yeah, thank you very much

1276
01:01:14,173 --> 01:01:16,213
Speaker 2: for you. I mean, that's the other thing, you know,

1277
01:01:16,253 --> 01:01:18,973
Speaker 2: when you fire up at work, it's you don't know

1278
01:01:19,053 --> 01:01:20,533
Speaker 2: what's going And sm said he had a lot going

1279
01:01:20,573 --> 01:01:23,653
Speaker 2: on his life as well. So that's the thing about workplaces, right,

1280
01:01:23,693 --> 01:01:25,493
Speaker 2: everyone's got a life outside of work. They can be

1281
01:01:25,573 --> 01:01:28,013
Speaker 2: driving into work and they can get incredibly aggravated. You

1282
01:01:28,053 --> 01:01:29,413
Speaker 2: don't know what's happened. You don't know if they've got

1283
01:01:29,413 --> 01:01:31,653
Speaker 2: problems at home. All these kind of things come together

1284
01:01:32,213 --> 01:01:35,373
Speaker 2: and people can go off and work and that is

1285
01:01:35,413 --> 01:01:38,133
Speaker 2: going to happen. But if people can come back down

1286
01:01:38,293 --> 01:01:41,813
Speaker 2: and apologize and are big enough to admit their mistakes,

1287
01:01:42,333 --> 01:01:48,213
Speaker 2: and as your dad did, come back and say, this

1288
01:01:48,373 --> 01:01:52,933
Speaker 2: is how you read the plans. You know then then

1289
01:01:53,613 --> 01:01:55,293
Speaker 2: then it all helps you know, I mean then, I

1290
01:01:55,333 --> 01:01:58,333
Speaker 2: mean then that's obviously much much better than a person

1291
01:01:58,413 --> 01:02:00,253
Speaker 2: that is just yelling and screaming all the time and

1292
01:02:00,293 --> 01:02:04,493
Speaker 2: never has any self reflection about their behavior themselves. Someone said,

1293
01:02:04,533 --> 01:02:06,213
Speaker 2: can we get a counter on how many times has

1294
01:02:06,253 --> 01:02:08,973
Speaker 2: said robust? Yeah? Look, I love people keeping me honest

1295
01:02:08,973 --> 01:02:09,973
Speaker 2: to nine two nine two.

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01:02:11,333 --> 01:02:12,413
Speaker 3: Wow, I was looking.

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01:02:12,813 --> 01:02:14,933
Speaker 2: That's another. I think I'm up to five robusts.

1298
01:02:15,093 --> 01:02:16,453
Speaker 3: Right, We'll definitely keep a counter on that.

1299
01:02:16,613 --> 01:02:18,373
Speaker 2: I'll try. I'm going to get on the phsaurus and

1300
01:02:18,373 --> 01:02:20,693
Speaker 2: find another word other than robust. To go forward.

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01:02:21,093 --> 01:02:22,733
Speaker 3: Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

1302
01:02:22,773 --> 01:02:24,493
Speaker 3: number to cool love to hear from you, it's twenty

1303
01:02:24,533 --> 01:02:25,133
Speaker 3: seven to three.

1304
01:02:28,413 --> 01:02:31,733
Speaker 9: US Talk said the headlines, what blue bubble taxis? It's

1305
01:02:31,813 --> 01:02:34,693
Speaker 9: no trouble with a blue bubble. A youth from the

1306
01:02:34,693 --> 01:02:38,213
Speaker 9: boot camp pilot allegedly went on a three day crime

1307
01:02:38,253 --> 01:02:41,053
Speaker 9: spree in Hamilton less than a month after coming out

1308
01:02:41,133 --> 01:02:45,213
Speaker 9: of the Youth Justice Residence. Legislation allowing boot camps past

1309
01:02:45,293 --> 01:02:48,733
Speaker 9: its first reading in the House yesterday. The Prime Minister

1310
01:02:48,853 --> 01:02:53,453
Speaker 9: is praising a geothermal power stationing station opening at Tohada

1311
01:02:53,533 --> 01:02:57,813
Speaker 9: today near Topor, which can power about two hundred thousand homes.

1312
01:02:58,813 --> 01:03:02,413
Speaker 9: Gray District's mayor says Chorus is apologized for cutting off

1313
01:03:02,693 --> 01:03:06,893
Speaker 9: communications for an entire West Coast town black ball with

1314
01:03:07,053 --> 01:03:09,973
Speaker 9: no warning it was doing urgent repairs to a weather

1315
01:03:10,053 --> 01:03:15,093
Speaker 9: damaged pylon. The Trade Minister is optimistic Donald Trump's economic

1316
01:03:15,133 --> 01:03:18,253
Speaker 9: plans could benefit New Zealand, saying our exports to the

1317
01:03:18,413 --> 01:03:23,493
Speaker 9: US continue to grow under the last Trump administration. Forecast

1318
01:03:23,613 --> 01:03:26,053
Speaker 9: upgrades for A two Milk, which says it will pay

1319
01:03:26,053 --> 01:03:29,133
Speaker 9: dividends for the first time ever, and Land Corp, which

1320
01:03:29,133 --> 01:03:32,413
Speaker 9: says it'll make three to five times more profit than

1321
01:03:32,493 --> 01:03:37,573
Speaker 9: previously forecast. Wellington Airport's big runway project set to shake

1322
01:03:37,693 --> 01:03:41,533
Speaker 9: up international travel. Seymour at Ens and Herald Premium. Back

1323
01:03:41,573 --> 01:03:43,453
Speaker 9: to Matt Eathan Tyler Adams.

1324
01:03:43,013 --> 01:03:43,893
Speaker 3: B Q ray Lean.

1325
01:03:44,293 --> 01:03:45,893
Speaker 2: So we had a texta four nine two nine two,

1326
01:03:45,933 --> 01:03:49,493
Speaker 2: which is firing people up on eight hundred Hardaki and.

1327
01:03:49,573 --> 01:03:50,813
Speaker 3: Excuse me eight hundred.

1328
01:03:51,013 --> 01:03:54,013
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's toxic of you. Yeah, I cack

1329
01:03:54,253 --> 01:03:55,653
Speaker 2: if I want to run there, if I want to

1330
01:03:55,733 --> 01:03:58,933
Speaker 2: use the wrong radio station number.

1331
01:03:58,853 --> 01:04:01,933
Speaker 3: I am well with scream at you right.

1332
01:04:01,733 --> 01:04:05,213
Speaker 2: Now as an employee. That is that is well within

1333
01:04:05,853 --> 01:04:06,533
Speaker 2: my rights.

1334
01:04:07,253 --> 01:04:08,893
Speaker 3: That's a robust and fright their male.

1335
01:04:09,013 --> 01:04:15,093
Speaker 2: I'm all for a strong, vigorous, sturdy, tough, powerful, muscular, rugged, hardy,

1336
01:04:15,933 --> 01:04:18,813
Speaker 2: full bodied workplace. Yeah, Tyler, but I think it's one

1337
01:04:18,853 --> 01:04:21,653
Speaker 2: of my right news to say, oh eight hundred HORDECHI

1338
01:04:21,693 --> 01:04:24,373
Speaker 2: when I mean eight hundred eighty ten outy anyway, that's

1339
01:04:24,733 --> 01:04:26,613
Speaker 2: firing up the text machine. This text here that we

1340
01:04:26,693 --> 01:04:30,133
Speaker 2: read before, probably contentious, but I've found over my lengthy

1341
01:04:30,173 --> 01:04:32,773
Speaker 2: working career that predominantly female work environments often make for

1342
01:04:32,853 --> 01:04:35,773
Speaker 2: a bitchy, toxic, mean girl environment. The alpha female or

1343
01:04:35,773 --> 01:04:38,173
Speaker 2: females gather their minions and they proceed to bad mouth

1344
01:04:38,213 --> 01:04:41,453
Speaker 2: undermined play favorites and gossip about that those not in

1345
01:04:41,533 --> 01:04:43,653
Speaker 2: the group or teen. That was from a San. Sandra

1346
01:04:44,173 --> 01:04:47,053
Speaker 2: got this text countering that from a Matt who says,

1347
01:04:47,133 --> 01:04:49,373
Speaker 2: if that lady thinks an all girl workplace is bad,

1348
01:04:49,453 --> 01:04:53,213
Speaker 2: she should join a team of all male landscapers. Winging, whining,

1349
01:04:53,293 --> 01:04:55,213
Speaker 2: bitchy bunch of muddy moaners.

1350
01:04:55,213 --> 01:04:59,933
Speaker 3: Made Oh nice, well, Risen new Kim. If you've got

1351
01:04:59,933 --> 01:05:02,533
Speaker 3: a problem with people, people taking it too personally in

1352
01:05:02,573 --> 01:05:03,693
Speaker 3: the workplace.

1353
01:05:05,373 --> 01:05:09,053
Speaker 26: Yeah, yeah, I found, like I've said, oh boys, you

1354
01:05:09,053 --> 01:05:13,333
Speaker 26: know from kind of in the services kind of things, uh,

1355
01:05:13,813 --> 01:05:16,173
Speaker 26: and may and I found kind of like that kind

1356
01:05:16,213 --> 01:05:19,173
Speaker 26: of hardened me up to the way of thinking because

1357
01:05:19,213 --> 01:05:22,413
Speaker 26: like I said, that everyone was different, specially in the services.

1358
01:05:22,413 --> 01:05:24,893
Speaker 26: So uh, we've got all walks of life and the

1359
01:05:25,133 --> 01:05:27,533
Speaker 26: kind of to talk here to how to take and

1360
01:05:27,613 --> 01:05:31,413
Speaker 26: how to treat people. But also, like I said, I

1361
01:05:31,493 --> 01:05:35,933
Speaker 26: think I think we take they things personally because for

1362
01:05:36,013 --> 01:05:39,813
Speaker 26: a fourth times I have to say, like you know,

1363
01:05:39,973 --> 01:05:42,853
Speaker 26: males are different to females. It's very specially in the

1364
01:05:42,973 --> 01:05:46,253
Speaker 26: way of thinking. And they just they're always trying to

1365
01:05:46,293 --> 01:05:48,373
Speaker 26: say that we're the same, but it's never going to

1366
01:05:48,453 --> 01:05:52,573
Speaker 26: be and never never is, because we're totally different thinkers,

1367
01:05:52,573 --> 01:05:56,253
Speaker 26: you know, male and female, and we take things feefully

1368
01:05:56,293 --> 01:05:58,973
Speaker 26: in different ways. And that's for a reason, for you know,

1369
01:05:59,133 --> 01:06:02,613
Speaker 26: for reasons and uh. But the thing is, you know,

1370
01:06:03,053 --> 01:06:05,533
Speaker 26: we've got to think about that when we're if she's

1371
01:06:05,573 --> 01:06:07,773
Speaker 26: talking each other and we we take over it all

1372
01:06:08,373 --> 01:06:10,093
Speaker 26: each other all the time, you know, That's what I

1373
01:06:10,133 --> 01:06:14,133
Speaker 26: was saying. You know, that's why I kind of I

1374
01:06:14,333 --> 01:06:17,653
Speaker 26: like to been in services, and like you said, you

1375
01:06:17,733 --> 01:06:21,013
Speaker 26: get all boys together, they kind of have their habits

1376
01:06:21,133 --> 01:06:25,573
Speaker 26: and then vice versa would feemales, but you hit them

1377
01:06:25,573 --> 01:06:28,653
Speaker 26: both together and there's always going to be an adversary.

1378
01:06:28,693 --> 01:06:32,333
Speaker 26: You know, there's always going to be taking offense or

1379
01:06:32,333 --> 01:06:35,733
Speaker 26: something because we've kind of joked different ways, and that's

1380
01:06:35,733 --> 01:06:39,013
Speaker 26: totally that's totally how it is, and that's whyfe Yeah.

1381
01:06:38,853 --> 01:06:40,533
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your call, and you can

1382
01:06:40,573 --> 01:06:43,373
Speaker 2: you imagine and the services that you definitely would have

1383
01:06:43,413 --> 01:06:47,053
Speaker 2: some robust conversations needed to be had here and there.

1384
01:06:47,773 --> 01:06:50,693
Speaker 2: All right, boy, boy, this is this this phones are full,

1385
01:06:50,813 --> 01:06:51,973
Speaker 2: the text are coming through.

1386
01:06:52,173 --> 01:06:52,413
Speaker 3: Yep.

1387
01:06:52,453 --> 01:06:54,013
Speaker 2: We'll just take a break and move back with more

1388
01:06:54,053 --> 01:06:56,533
Speaker 2: chat on toxicicity in the workplace.

1389
01:06:56,653 --> 01:06:57,293
Speaker 3: What's the number?

1390
01:06:58,013 --> 01:07:02,893
Speaker 2: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty and I resent the judgment

1391
01:07:02,933 --> 01:07:04,493
Speaker 2: in your voice when you ask me to say the

1392
01:07:04,573 --> 01:07:05,573
Speaker 2: number more robust.

1393
01:07:05,653 --> 01:07:09,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's twenty to three.

1394
01:07:09,173 --> 01:07:10,893
Speaker 2: Bag of a vigorous chat coming up.

1395
01:07:12,653 --> 01:07:16,133
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

1396
01:07:16,373 --> 01:07:20,333
Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams Afternoons you for

1397
01:07:20,453 --> 01:07:21,813
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four used talk.

1398
01:07:21,893 --> 01:07:24,853
Speaker 3: Sa'd be seventeen to three, plenty of texts coming through

1399
01:07:24,893 --> 01:07:25,453
Speaker 3: on this one.

1400
01:07:25,613 --> 01:07:30,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, So we're talking about toxic work environments and a

1401
01:07:30,053 --> 01:07:32,813
Speaker 2: few texts and phone calls, and one from Sandra saying

1402
01:07:32,853 --> 01:07:35,853
Speaker 2: that all female work environments can be quite toxic. As

1403
01:07:35,853 --> 01:07:40,013
Speaker 2: a text, I work in a all female profession eighty

1404
01:07:40,013 --> 01:07:42,333
Speaker 2: percent of my career and it hasn't been toxic. Though

1405
01:07:42,333 --> 01:07:46,413
Speaker 2: toxic woman with their own problems do get hierarchical and

1406
01:07:46,533 --> 01:07:49,413
Speaker 2: cause problems like that. Lady explained on her text message.

1407
01:07:49,453 --> 01:07:51,693
Speaker 2: I think it's classified as toxic when people aren't held

1408
01:07:51,733 --> 01:07:53,773
Speaker 2: a count and changes aren't made.

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01:07:54,093 --> 01:07:54,293
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1410
01:07:54,693 --> 01:07:58,733
Speaker 2: Another text here, time for a fine system, Matt. Every

1411
01:07:58,773 --> 01:08:02,733
Speaker 2: time you say the H bomb, So that's from Ann. Yeah,

1412
01:08:02,813 --> 01:08:05,253
Speaker 2: so yeah, if you could keep vigilant on that on

1413
01:08:05,293 --> 01:08:07,333
Speaker 2: nine two nine two, every time I say the number

1414
01:08:07,373 --> 01:08:10,093
Speaker 2: of my previous radio station, Radio Hedeki instead of the

1415
01:08:10,173 --> 01:08:13,773
Speaker 2: z B number eight hundred eighty ten eighty. What would

1416
01:08:13,773 --> 01:08:17,173
Speaker 2: be a suitable find that isn't leading to a toxic workplace?

1417
01:08:17,173 --> 01:08:18,492
Speaker 2: I mean a peddling would be too much?

1418
01:08:18,572 --> 01:08:20,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought, no, I no, no, I feel I

1419
01:08:20,013 --> 01:08:22,532
Speaker 3: think that's bang on. Actually a nice punishment, nice peddling.

1420
01:08:22,653 --> 01:08:27,092
Speaker 2: Some kind of sturdy, tough, powerful, solid, strong muscular response

1421
01:08:27,093 --> 01:08:29,812
Speaker 2: for that would be good. There's another text for an

1422
01:08:29,933 --> 01:08:32,612
Speaker 2: anonymous please don't say my name we will not. Hey, guys,

1423
01:08:32,652 --> 01:08:35,732
Speaker 2: I work for the most toxic person was right up

1424
01:08:35,772 --> 01:08:39,133
Speaker 2: there boss backside. The boss and the senior management knew

1425
01:08:39,133 --> 01:08:42,172
Speaker 2: about this and person's bullying, toxic behavior. They didn't behavior,

1426
01:08:42,213 --> 01:08:44,852
Speaker 2: they didn't do anything about it. Unfortunately, they are a

1427
01:08:44,893 --> 01:08:48,133
Speaker 2: significant power move now and still displaying toxic behavior. I'm

1428
01:08:48,173 --> 01:08:50,612
Speaker 2: thankfully gone. At the end of the day. Bullies tend

1429
01:08:50,612 --> 01:08:54,253
Speaker 2: to get away with it if people don't stand up. Yeah, true,

1430
01:08:54,372 --> 01:08:55,012
Speaker 2: good text.

1431
01:08:54,933 --> 01:08:57,452
Speaker 3: Is coming through, Peter, You reckon. It comes down to

1432
01:08:57,452 --> 01:08:58,093
Speaker 3: the individual.

1433
01:08:59,692 --> 01:09:02,012
Speaker 18: Yeah, I think it does. You know, when you sign

1434
01:09:02,093 --> 01:09:05,253
Speaker 18: that contract or you get that job, you're expected to

1435
01:09:05,293 --> 01:09:07,772
Speaker 18: put her made out as a work. You know what

1436
01:09:07,812 --> 01:09:10,253
Speaker 18: your job description is. At the end of the day.

1437
01:09:10,692 --> 01:09:13,333
Speaker 18: If that job description changes, you know that to sit

1438
01:09:13,412 --> 01:09:16,492
Speaker 18: down between you and your manager and if you don't

1439
01:09:16,612 --> 01:09:18,012
Speaker 18: freaking like it, leave.

1440
01:09:18,133 --> 01:09:18,812
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.

1441
01:09:19,973 --> 01:09:23,492
Speaker 18: I just don't understand why people stay in there and

1442
01:09:23,532 --> 01:09:27,532
Speaker 18: then they blame the manager. Bay mother starf. Just just

1443
01:09:27,612 --> 01:09:29,812
Speaker 18: freaking leave. You knew what you were getting into when

1444
01:09:29,853 --> 01:09:32,972
Speaker 18: you took the job. Just grow up here and just leave.

1445
01:09:33,772 --> 01:09:36,812
Speaker 2: I mean, ideally, Peter, I get that, but I guess

1446
01:09:36,853 --> 01:09:39,932
Speaker 2: there would be circumstances when people just need the job.

1447
01:09:40,013 --> 01:09:43,892
Speaker 2: Maybe you're in a tough economy like we are now

1448
01:09:44,133 --> 01:09:46,452
Speaker 2: and there isn't the job out there. There must be

1449
01:09:46,572 --> 01:09:50,852
Speaker 2: examples where people want to leave but they just can't

1450
01:09:50,973 --> 01:09:53,052
Speaker 2: because they need the money to support their families.

1451
01:09:54,572 --> 01:09:58,133
Speaker 18: Yeah, that's true, but they're also those same people are

1452
01:09:58,213 --> 01:10:02,213
Speaker 18: very arrogant that they're not at fault. And you know,

1453
01:10:01,853 --> 01:10:06,692
Speaker 18: if you're justified take a personal a grievance, yeah, I'm therefore,

1454
01:10:07,053 --> 01:10:11,293
Speaker 18: But if you're not justified, Yeah, I've hired people before

1455
01:10:11,333 --> 01:10:14,932
Speaker 18: and I've yelled at people. I'm in the trade, and yeah,

1456
01:10:15,173 --> 01:10:17,612
Speaker 18: it just goes with the trade. But at the end

1457
01:10:17,612 --> 01:10:20,852
Speaker 18: of the day, I expect my employees to do the

1458
01:10:21,213 --> 01:10:24,133
Speaker 18: job within the description. If you can't do it, I'm

1459
01:10:24,133 --> 01:10:26,012
Speaker 18: not interested in opening you.

1460
01:10:26,093 --> 01:10:29,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, nicely, said Peter. Thank you very much.

1461
01:10:29,173 --> 01:10:31,333
Speaker 2: I've got a text here from Dean. I'm self employed

1462
01:10:31,333 --> 01:10:34,173
Speaker 2: and my boss can be a real lazy basket at times.

1463
01:10:34,213 --> 01:10:35,612
Speaker 2: Sometimes they have to give a real serve.

1464
01:10:35,933 --> 01:10:37,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, yell at yell at yourself.

1465
01:10:37,372 --> 01:10:41,133
Speaker 2: Yeah what if you if you're the toxic quirk ingvicement,

1466
01:10:41,732 --> 01:10:46,293
Speaker 2: I feel like that sometimes term you've been in one

1467
01:10:46,372 --> 01:10:49,372
Speaker 2: or two toxic environments, Oh.

1468
01:10:49,253 --> 01:10:53,013
Speaker 13: Yeah, at least one, But you know, I've sort of

1469
01:10:53,053 --> 01:10:56,973
Speaker 13: handled it. What I was interested in really was is

1470
01:10:57,732 --> 01:11:04,372
Speaker 13: Morris from twenty minutes ago? Yeah, gee, Mars has got

1471
01:11:04,412 --> 01:11:05,892
Speaker 13: a couple of Yeah.

1472
01:11:05,732 --> 01:11:06,372
Speaker 3: Where do you start?

1473
01:11:06,492 --> 01:11:09,692
Speaker 2: So, just to recap, Morris was the guy that he

1474
01:11:09,772 --> 01:11:13,852
Speaker 2: was involved in in in horse training, I believe, and

1475
01:11:14,053 --> 01:11:18,972
Speaker 2: his he would he let rip in a truck and

1476
01:11:19,532 --> 01:11:22,293
Speaker 2: was disappointed that a potential employee or something that just

1477
01:11:22,333 --> 01:11:26,053
Speaker 2: started was offended by the stank. And I thought that

1478
01:11:26,133 --> 01:11:29,812
Speaker 2: was a bit precious and also thought that you could

1479
01:11:29,812 --> 01:11:33,412
Speaker 2: tell how people were by how they behaved after a

1480
01:11:33,452 --> 01:11:37,652
Speaker 2: few drinks. But your thoughts on that, yeah, well.

1481
01:11:37,933 --> 01:11:40,852
Speaker 13: You know, if I was in a place with Marius

1482
01:11:40,933 --> 01:11:45,692
Speaker 13: and he dropped his guts and was bad, and there's

1483
01:11:45,692 --> 01:11:48,133
Speaker 13: two options, I'm either going to stick no singer down

1484
01:11:48,213 --> 01:11:50,812
Speaker 13: my stroke and chunder on him. We'll give him an

1485
01:11:50,812 --> 01:11:55,053
Speaker 13: hours some stars because you know, even Stevens, you know,

1486
01:11:55,093 --> 01:11:58,572
Speaker 13: if you want to be revolting, you can pull thing

1487
01:11:58,612 --> 01:12:00,892
Speaker 13: that you can stop the vehicles and half out. Yeah,

1488
01:12:02,732 --> 01:12:05,013
Speaker 13: Marris sort of guade hit the central locking, wouldn't they

1489
01:12:05,053 --> 01:12:08,253
Speaker 13: and not allowed the windows down a hah. Yeah, Well

1490
01:12:08,612 --> 01:12:12,092
Speaker 13: when he's covered in chunks and probably not so funny

1491
01:12:12,093 --> 01:12:18,452
Speaker 13: for him, But I imagine also that Morris is probably apologizing

1492
01:12:18,933 --> 01:12:22,412
Speaker 13: a lot in his life. The secret around that is,

1493
01:12:23,652 --> 01:12:27,572
Speaker 13: don't be a Morris change, you know, like, don't have

1494
01:12:27,732 --> 01:12:29,732
Speaker 13: to apologize to people all the time.

1495
01:12:30,372 --> 01:12:33,293
Speaker 2: And Maris's defense, he said he's had the same employees

1496
01:12:33,333 --> 01:12:38,013
Speaker 2: for eight years, so it seems like it's employees, the

1497
01:12:38,013 --> 01:12:40,013
Speaker 2: ones that get through the trial by fire and the

1498
01:12:40,053 --> 01:12:42,692
Speaker 2: youth found his crew that the crew that he has

1499
01:12:42,732 --> 01:12:46,492
Speaker 2: with them likes them now. It would seem according to Maris.

1500
01:12:47,133 --> 01:12:50,652
Speaker 13: According to Morris, the interesting to speak to the staff.

1501
01:12:50,692 --> 01:12:55,213
Speaker 13: They've probably got mortgages and heads and you know how

1502
01:12:55,253 --> 01:12:59,532
Speaker 13: it is. It was I'm just I'm just going off

1503
01:12:59,572 --> 01:13:02,372
Speaker 13: what Morris exposed in the world. So yeah, you know,

1504
01:13:02,412 --> 01:13:03,772
Speaker 13: I'm just putting it together.

1505
01:13:03,973 --> 01:13:08,852
Speaker 2: And sorry you go, Tom, Sorry you go, No, you go.

1506
01:13:09,532 --> 01:13:12,372
Speaker 2: Know you we're turning this into a top.

1507
01:13:13,893 --> 01:13:18,492
Speaker 13: I think the fowl pointers, you know, it shouldn't have

1508
01:13:18,572 --> 01:13:23,213
Speaker 13: to deteriorate where people are yelling each other, yelling at

1509
01:13:23,213 --> 01:13:27,573
Speaker 13: each other. I mean, just don't let things step talking.

1510
01:13:27,372 --> 01:13:31,253
Speaker 2: Out, especially as you're saying, we're before with Tyler's dad,

1511
01:13:31,293 --> 01:13:36,492
Speaker 2: he yelled and screamed and have a wrench through some plies.

1512
01:13:37,572 --> 01:13:41,732
Speaker 2: Get it right through some jib because Tyler is useless

1513
01:13:42,372 --> 01:13:45,612
Speaker 2: and cut the hole in the wrong place and Tyler's

1514
01:13:45,652 --> 01:13:50,372
Speaker 2: an idiot. But he then no offense. But then he

1515
01:13:50,412 --> 01:13:53,133
Speaker 2: came back and he apologized. So you are going to

1516
01:13:53,213 --> 01:13:56,213
Speaker 2: fire up, but we all in our lives, we all

1517
01:13:56,213 --> 01:13:58,213
Speaker 2: have emotions and we all have our passions. But it's

1518
01:13:58,213 --> 01:14:01,732
Speaker 2: how you behave after that, you know. And so if

1519
01:14:01,772 --> 01:14:03,972
Speaker 2: you're big enough to as your father was a great,

1520
01:14:04,053 --> 01:14:07,812
Speaker 2: great man, he fired up, and he came back and

1521
01:14:07,853 --> 01:14:11,372
Speaker 2: he apologies, and he took you through how to read plans. Yeah,

1522
01:14:11,452 --> 01:14:14,293
Speaker 2: I mean you could argue before you get someone cutting

1523
01:14:14,293 --> 01:14:16,772
Speaker 2: a hole that maybe you showed them how to read

1524
01:14:16,772 --> 01:14:18,972
Speaker 2: plans before that, would you know? You or you learn

1525
01:14:19,013 --> 01:14:20,612
Speaker 2: how to read plans before you cut the hole. But

1526
01:14:20,612 --> 01:14:22,013
Speaker 2: that's that's a whole differentis That's right?

1527
01:14:22,053 --> 01:14:23,973
Speaker 3: The person I really blame is the jib sopper. He

1528
01:14:24,053 --> 01:14:26,133
Speaker 3: was only working three days a week. I mean, come on,

1529
01:14:26,492 --> 01:14:28,173
Speaker 3: it wouldn't have been if he was around.

1530
01:14:28,213 --> 01:14:31,772
Speaker 2: Here we go the blame games, classic useless employees always

1531
01:14:31,812 --> 01:14:32,852
Speaker 2: looking for someone else to blame.

1532
01:14:33,253 --> 01:14:34,412
Speaker 3: It is ten to.

1533
01:14:34,293 --> 01:14:38,692
Speaker 1: Three the issues that affect you, and a bit of

1534
01:14:38,732 --> 01:14:42,213
Speaker 1: fun along the way. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons.

1535
01:14:42,333 --> 01:14:45,732
Speaker 1: You for twenty twenty four, you've talked s B News

1536
01:14:45,772 --> 01:14:49,412
Speaker 1: Talks B. We're talking about toxic workplaces, and.

1537
01:14:49,333 --> 01:14:51,053
Speaker 2: We've also been talking a lot about a guy called

1538
01:14:51,053 --> 01:14:57,253
Speaker 2: Morrissey rang in with a very strong phone call. Y'

1539
01:14:57,412 --> 01:15:00,012
Speaker 2: gonna say robust again or be pulled up about word

1540
01:15:00,053 --> 01:15:03,732
Speaker 2: robusts so much this Texas is where has it gone?

1541
01:15:03,772 --> 01:15:07,492
Speaker 2: I know Morris personally, and I can't stress how accurate

1542
01:15:07,532 --> 01:15:09,173
Speaker 2: everyone's assessment of him as.

1543
01:15:11,333 --> 01:15:11,692
Speaker 3: Morris.

1544
01:15:12,053 --> 01:15:17,893
Speaker 2: Okay, John, your thoughts on toxic workplaces.

1545
01:15:15,973 --> 01:15:21,133
Speaker 10: Well, hello there, it's not necessarily a toxic workplace, but

1546
01:15:21,213 --> 01:15:26,293
Speaker 10: it's more about the toxicity altogether. And precidently I'm down

1547
01:15:26,293 --> 01:15:29,452
Speaker 10: here at the beautiful wireduct harbor, and what I want

1548
01:15:29,492 --> 01:15:33,692
Speaker 10: to share is my wonderful uncle always used to say.

1549
01:15:34,133 --> 01:15:37,253
Speaker 10: He said, John, if you throw mott, you lose grounds.

1550
01:15:38,253 --> 01:15:41,532
Speaker 2: And he again, John, John, sorry I missed that. What

1551
01:15:41,572 --> 01:15:43,253
Speaker 2: was what was that saying from from your uncle?

1552
01:15:44,333 --> 01:15:48,652
Speaker 10: The saying was that if you throw mutt, you lose ground.

1553
01:15:50,333 --> 01:15:53,812
Speaker 10: I like that, and I think there's a very good thing.

1554
01:15:53,853 --> 01:15:58,492
Speaker 10: And and he he was a very good captain. And

1555
01:15:58,853 --> 01:16:01,692
Speaker 10: he was also the one who always shared that on

1556
01:16:01,772 --> 01:16:06,612
Speaker 10: a boat if a captain yells and screams. It must

1557
01:16:06,612 --> 01:16:10,852
Speaker 10: only be done in a life threatening or a highly

1558
01:16:10,933 --> 01:16:16,253
Speaker 10: emergent emergency situation, because otherwise you don't you end up

1559
01:16:16,293 --> 01:16:17,612
Speaker 10: not listening to the captain.

1560
01:16:18,412 --> 01:16:22,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean, I mean, just with that analogy, John,

1561
01:16:22,652 --> 01:16:25,612
Speaker 3: and you can take the news business, or you can

1562
01:16:25,652 --> 01:16:28,933
Speaker 3: take you know, construction, or I mean there's numerous industries

1563
01:16:28,973 --> 01:16:32,213
Speaker 3: out there where you don't have time as a luxury,

1564
01:16:32,412 --> 01:16:35,093
Speaker 3: or mistakes cost a lot of money. In those instances

1565
01:16:35,652 --> 01:16:39,412
Speaker 3: where those bosses would yell, maybe to keep someone safe

1566
01:16:39,452 --> 01:16:41,452
Speaker 3: or maybe because you cost the business a heck of

1567
01:16:41,492 --> 01:16:43,492
Speaker 3: a lot of money. Is that okay to do?

1568
01:16:45,732 --> 01:16:50,693
Speaker 10: I would say life threatening situations, yes, money saving situations

1569
01:16:50,853 --> 01:16:54,092
Speaker 10: where do we put the limits? We would have different

1570
01:16:54,093 --> 01:16:58,253
Speaker 10: limits there. So I think any boss that raises his

1571
01:16:58,492 --> 01:17:02,612
Speaker 10: or her was too often lose respect. That's how simply

1572
01:17:02,612 --> 01:17:03,572
Speaker 10: it is in my opinion.

1573
01:17:03,812 --> 01:17:04,933
Speaker 13: Yeah, I remember.

1574
01:17:04,572 --> 01:17:09,173
Speaker 10: Stealing for many years, or on a boat where we

1575
01:17:09,933 --> 01:17:13,692
Speaker 10: were competitive and the captain was a columnist, a person ever,

1576
01:17:14,293 --> 01:17:17,933
Speaker 10: and we won a lot of races, and then his

1577
01:17:18,093 --> 01:17:21,013
Speaker 10: wife started getting on board. And then this is not

1578
01:17:21,253 --> 01:17:24,572
Speaker 10: in any way pointing at any females, but he was

1579
01:17:24,652 --> 01:17:29,172
Speaker 10: even more competitive and would raise her voice four times

1580
01:17:29,213 --> 01:17:33,772
Speaker 10: every race, ten times every race. After about a season

1581
01:17:33,853 --> 01:17:36,572
Speaker 10: of that, I said, I'm sorry, I don't enjoy the

1582
01:17:36,853 --> 01:17:39,492
Speaker 10: environment on this boat any longer. And the captain said

1583
01:17:39,532 --> 01:17:41,932
Speaker 10: to me, I'm totally understand.

1584
01:17:41,973 --> 01:17:42,253
Speaker 27: John.

1585
01:17:42,452 --> 01:17:44,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much for your call. If you

1586
01:17:44,532 --> 01:17:46,412
Speaker 2: throw them, you lose ground. That's a good point. And

1587
01:17:46,812 --> 01:17:49,213
Speaker 2: another saying is from Marcusraelius. How much more harmful of

1588
01:17:49,253 --> 01:17:52,013
Speaker 2: the consequences of anger than the circumstances that arouse them.

1589
01:17:52,013 --> 01:17:53,892
Speaker 2: You've got to be careful that your anger doesn't cause

1590
01:17:53,973 --> 01:17:57,612
Speaker 2: more damage than the original crime. Look what a great

1591
01:17:57,652 --> 01:17:59,932
Speaker 2: chat it's been. And apologize. We couldn't get to all apologies.

1592
01:17:59,973 --> 01:18:01,692
Speaker 2: We couldn't get all your texts and calls, but we

1593
01:18:01,853 --> 01:18:05,972
Speaker 2: really appreciate them. And look, when you're in a show

1594
01:18:05,973 --> 01:18:09,293
Speaker 2: as popular as this as the show has recently become.

1595
01:18:09,372 --> 01:18:11,892
Speaker 2: According to the latest radio server, you're gonna get heavy traffic,

1596
01:18:11,933 --> 01:18:13,772
Speaker 2: can't you, Tyler. I'm just looking at these numbers. There's

1597
01:18:13,812 --> 01:18:15,093
Speaker 2: number one on Aukland for the first time in a

1598
01:18:15,093 --> 01:18:15,492
Speaker 2: long time.

1599
01:18:15,612 --> 01:18:18,932
Speaker 3: Oh, I think you'd find you're looking at them, Yeah,

1600
01:18:18,973 --> 01:18:20,253
Speaker 3: looking at them, looking at us?

1601
01:18:20,532 --> 01:18:23,173
Speaker 2: Oh what Matt and Tyler afternoons on zibbe. Yeah, like,

1602
01:18:23,253 --> 01:18:27,333
Speaker 2: it's not about us. I don't know who brought that up,

1603
01:18:27,572 --> 01:18:29,452
Speaker 2: but what it is about is it's about the New

1604
01:18:29,532 --> 01:18:32,732
Speaker 2: Zealand of the week. We're going to announce that coming

1605
01:18:32,853 --> 01:18:35,452
Speaker 2: up next. Every week we pick someone who's had an

1606
01:18:35,452 --> 01:18:37,972
Speaker 2: outsized effect on the country over the last seven days

1607
01:18:38,333 --> 01:18:40,372
Speaker 2: and we celebrate them.

1608
01:18:40,572 --> 01:18:43,013
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

1609
01:18:43,093 --> 01:18:45,372
Speaker 3: number to call. Nine two ninety two is the text number.

1610
01:18:45,412 --> 01:18:47,692
Speaker 3: We've got topical tunes coming up as well. It is

1611
01:18:47,933 --> 01:18:57,652
Speaker 3: three to three.

1612
01:18:55,253 --> 01:18:57,013
Speaker 14: Talking with you all afternoon.

1613
01:18:57,213 --> 01:19:00,732
Speaker 1: It's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons you for twenty

1614
01:19:00,772 --> 01:19:03,093
Speaker 1: twenty four news talg zibby.

1615
01:19:03,333 --> 01:19:06,932
Speaker 3: Good afternoon. Final hour of the week for us, big

1616
01:19:06,973 --> 01:19:08,173
Speaker 3: houry heads.

1617
01:19:08,412 --> 01:19:11,013
Speaker 2: Huge, My favorite hour of the week. Topical tunes is

1618
01:19:11,053 --> 01:19:12,932
Speaker 2: coming up. My good buddy Tyler here and I will

1619
01:19:12,973 --> 01:19:15,372
Speaker 2: play a song each on a topic of the week.

1620
01:19:15,692 --> 01:19:17,452
Speaker 2: We put it to the phones on eight hundred and

1621
01:19:17,452 --> 01:19:19,932
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty in the first to three wins. After

1622
01:19:19,933 --> 01:19:22,412
Speaker 2: three thirty, we talked to ex All Black captain Kieran

1623
01:19:22,492 --> 01:19:25,812
Speaker 2: Reid about the game this weekend and the All Blacks

1624
01:19:25,933 --> 01:19:28,652
Speaker 2: year plus. We have a whole heap of fish and

1625
01:19:28,732 --> 01:19:30,052
Speaker 2: chip chat to get through.

1626
01:19:30,093 --> 01:19:32,133
Speaker 3: But first we have something to do.

1627
01:19:33,933 --> 01:19:34,333
Speaker 14: Zed B.

1628
01:19:36,492 --> 01:19:39,412
Speaker 2: Every Friday on Moons on zed B we name the

1629
01:19:39,452 --> 01:19:42,092
Speaker 2: New Zealander of the Week, an honor that we bestow

1630
01:19:42,173 --> 01:19:44,093
Speaker 2: on your behalf to a newsmaker who has had an

1631
01:19:44,133 --> 01:19:47,452
Speaker 2: outsized effect on our great and beautiful nation over the

1632
01:19:47,492 --> 01:19:50,412
Speaker 2: previous seven days. And as always, there will be three nominees,

1633
01:19:50,452 --> 01:19:53,212
Speaker 2: but only one winner. And remember, like the Time magazine

1634
01:19:53,213 --> 01:19:55,293
Speaker 2: Person of the Year, the New Zealand of the Week

1635
01:19:55,412 --> 01:19:57,972
Speaker 2: isn't always an agent of good. So without further ado,

1636
01:19:58,293 --> 01:20:01,133
Speaker 2: the nominees for Matt and Tyler Afternoons New Zealand of

1637
01:20:01,133 --> 01:20:04,692
Speaker 2: the Week AH. Nomine one also receives the Early Bird Award.

1638
01:20:05,173 --> 01:20:07,452
Speaker 2: You've probably done some bad stuff. I wouldn't invite you

1639
01:20:07,452 --> 01:20:10,612
Speaker 2: around for dinner. You have made history the Hastings mongolmob

1640
01:20:10,652 --> 01:20:13,932
Speaker 2: member who was arrested for displaying a mungewob sign three

1641
01:20:13,973 --> 01:20:17,133
Speaker 2: minutes after the law went into effect. You have been

1642
01:20:17,173 --> 01:20:23,532
Speaker 2: nominated for New Zealander of the Week. Nomine two also

1643
01:20:24,133 --> 01:20:27,372
Speaker 2: wins the Mitchellin Star Award. They want to health you up.

1644
01:20:27,572 --> 01:20:30,853
Speaker 2: They're coming for your chips, your jam donuts and your milkshakes.

1645
01:20:30,893 --> 01:20:33,492
Speaker 2: But they can take your mouse traps out of my

1646
01:20:33,732 --> 01:20:37,372
Speaker 2: cold dead hands the New Zealand School tuck Shop. You

1647
01:20:37,452 --> 01:20:39,173
Speaker 2: are nominated for New Zealander of the Week.

1648
01:20:39,213 --> 01:20:41,852
Speaker 3: Well deserved, but.

1649
01:20:42,013 --> 01:20:47,772
Speaker 2: There can be only one, and the winner of New

1650
01:20:47,853 --> 01:20:50,572
Speaker 2: Zealander of the Week is he's the new boss of

1651
01:20:50,612 --> 01:20:53,372
Speaker 2: the police, he's named after a cat, and he's nailing

1652
01:20:53,412 --> 01:20:57,492
Speaker 2: his movie star doppelganger. Game Commissioner Richard Felix Chambers for

1653
01:20:57,532 --> 01:21:00,572
Speaker 2: looking exactly like Sam J. Jones, star of the nineteen

1654
01:21:00,652 --> 01:21:04,813
Speaker 2: eighty SI five Flash Gordon film. You are New Zealander

1655
01:21:05,013 --> 01:21:26,012
Speaker 2: of the Week, who it already doesn't look a lot

1656
01:21:26,173 --> 01:21:27,253
Speaker 2: like Sam J.

1657
01:21:27,492 --> 01:21:27,812
Speaker 5: Jones.

1658
01:21:28,412 --> 01:21:30,572
Speaker 3: We're going the start of the nineteen eighty sci fi

1659
01:21:31,612 --> 01:21:32,692
Speaker 3: classic Last Order.

1660
01:21:32,893 --> 01:21:48,173
Speaker 28: Good looking fellais for these extrad and to collects Holy

1661
01:21:48,293 --> 01:21:52,653
Speaker 28: Doctor Lady Sarki formally and NASA has provided any explanation.

1662
01:22:00,013 --> 01:22:03,692
Speaker 25: Morning's unprecedented solar eclipse is no cause for alarm.

1663
01:22:04,093 --> 01:22:07,933
Speaker 3: Matt and Tyler well deserved winner of New Zealander of

1664
01:22:08,013 --> 01:22:08,253
Speaker 3: the Way.

1665
01:22:10,013 --> 01:22:15,492
Speaker 2: I think it's tenuous I picked that, but yeah, look

1666
01:22:15,572 --> 01:22:19,852
Speaker 2: he does look a lot like Sam great cheekbones, Yeah

1667
01:22:20,053 --> 01:22:22,772
Speaker 2: he does, but will that put him in good stead

1668
01:22:22,893 --> 01:22:27,173
Speaker 2: to be a police commissioner. Only time will tell. But

1669
01:22:27,293 --> 01:22:29,772
Speaker 2: Felix's great nickname isn't Richard Felix Chambers?

1670
01:22:29,772 --> 01:22:30,772
Speaker 3: And what do they call him Felix?

1671
01:22:31,053 --> 01:22:34,133
Speaker 2: I think it was a situation where he you know,

1672
01:22:34,372 --> 01:22:38,492
Speaker 2: every police officer has a nickname from something that happened

1673
01:22:38,532 --> 01:22:41,532
Speaker 2: on the beat, and I think he saved a cat

1674
01:22:43,053 --> 01:22:44,892
Speaker 2: and got the name Felix, or he was attacked by

1675
01:22:44,893 --> 01:22:46,412
Speaker 2: a cat. Will actually look into that. But there was

1676
01:22:46,452 --> 01:22:50,293
Speaker 2: some cat related thing which meant that Commissioner Richard is

1677
01:22:50,333 --> 01:22:54,852
Speaker 2: called Commissioner Richard Felix Chambers. But look it up because

1678
01:22:54,893 --> 01:22:57,133
Speaker 2: it is uncanny how much he looks like. It seems

1679
01:22:57,173 --> 01:23:00,052
Speaker 2: like an obscure reference because it is, But it's uncanny

1680
01:23:00,093 --> 01:23:03,492
Speaker 2: how much he looks like Sam J. Jones from Flash

1681
01:23:03,532 --> 01:23:06,692
Speaker 2: Gordon Show, The Matt and Tyler Afternoons. That's enough to

1682
01:23:06,692 --> 01:23:07,852
Speaker 2: give you New Zealander of the week.

1683
01:23:08,612 --> 01:23:11,452
Speaker 3: Clearly right, moving on, this is going to be a

1684
01:23:11,492 --> 01:23:15,213
Speaker 3: good chat. So residence at a holiday hot spot is outraged.

1685
01:23:15,452 --> 01:23:19,253
Speaker 3: Outraged at a local fish and chip shop that prices

1686
01:23:19,612 --> 01:23:22,213
Speaker 3: are sky high, they say so the Munga fire local

1687
01:23:22,253 --> 01:23:24,532
Speaker 3: who didn't want to be named, said a four dollar

1688
01:23:24,652 --> 01:23:28,972
Speaker 3: fifty scoop of chips from a particular takeaway spot got

1689
01:23:29,093 --> 01:23:33,013
Speaker 3: her just thirty four chips, which averages out to be

1690
01:23:33,173 --> 01:23:36,293
Speaker 3: thirteen cents per chip. I thought it was shocking, she said.

1691
01:23:36,293 --> 01:23:38,333
Speaker 3: I was at the beach with my seventy year old mum.

1692
01:23:38,612 --> 01:23:40,532
Speaker 3: She was a bit crushed at the size when we

1693
01:23:40,652 --> 01:23:43,173
Speaker 3: opened it. I've worked in hospitality for about eighteen years

1694
01:23:43,173 --> 01:23:45,933
Speaker 3: and fast food and running restaurants, and for me, that

1695
01:23:46,133 --> 01:23:48,333
Speaker 3: is just shocking behavior from a fish and chip shop.

1696
01:23:48,812 --> 01:23:50,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it does. I mean it is just

1697
01:23:51,093 --> 01:23:53,333
Speaker 2: business right. If that's how much they charge and people

1698
01:23:53,333 --> 01:23:55,972
Speaker 2: stop buying it, then that's what happens to their business.

1699
01:23:56,053 --> 01:23:58,173
Speaker 2: But it does seem thirteen cents a chip seems like

1700
01:23:58,253 --> 01:23:59,972
Speaker 2: a lot. How much are the treats?

1701
01:24:00,652 --> 01:24:01,612
Speaker 3: How much were the treats?

1702
01:24:01,933 --> 01:24:03,412
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to I'll be interested to see the

1703
01:24:03,732 --> 01:24:05,812
Speaker 2: menu at this fish and chip shop. When I was

1704
01:24:05,853 --> 01:24:09,013
Speaker 2: a kid, my parents called this out at us having

1705
01:24:09,053 --> 01:24:11,652
Speaker 2: a crazy name for these and by other people, we

1706
01:24:11,772 --> 01:24:14,052
Speaker 2: called them treats like the hot dogs or the fish

1707
01:24:14,973 --> 01:24:19,452
Speaker 2: or the donut or the chop sewey patty or whatever

1708
01:24:19,452 --> 01:24:22,012
Speaker 2: you or the onion sausage, whatever, those things were called treats.

1709
01:24:22,013 --> 01:24:25,612
Speaker 2: So my dad would say, okay, what treats do your

1710
01:24:25,652 --> 01:24:31,133
Speaker 2: kids want? And I'd say hot dog, chop sewey paddy onion, sausage, cheeseburger,

1711
01:24:31,372 --> 01:24:34,132
Speaker 2: pineapple ring. And it's a two treats, two treats.

1712
01:24:34,933 --> 01:24:36,892
Speaker 3: The chips with a vig that was the healthy part

1713
01:24:37,013 --> 01:24:38,293
Speaker 3: and then you're allowed to treats.

1714
01:24:38,452 --> 01:24:40,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was put to us.

1715
01:24:41,412 --> 01:24:43,132
Speaker 3: Well, how much would you pay for a chocolate donut

1716
01:24:43,173 --> 01:24:44,053
Speaker 3: at the Fish and Chip shop?

1717
01:24:44,173 --> 01:24:44,932
Speaker 2: Chocolate donut?

1718
01:24:45,013 --> 01:24:45,173
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1719
01:24:45,253 --> 01:24:47,173
Speaker 3: Can you get fried deep fried chocolate donut?

1720
01:24:47,253 --> 01:24:49,093
Speaker 2: I've never heard of a deep fried chocolate donut if

1721
01:24:49,452 --> 01:24:51,612
Speaker 2: I've heard of a donut, but I don't, I've never

1722
01:24:52,173 --> 01:24:53,412
Speaker 2: did they deep fry the chocolate once?

1723
01:24:53,532 --> 01:24:55,532
Speaker 3: Yeah, deep fry it and these chocolate in the middle.

1724
01:24:55,612 --> 01:24:58,492
Speaker 3: So chocolate donut that oozers through. Can you get a

1725
01:24:58,532 --> 01:24:59,813
Speaker 3: bit of banter on the outside.

1726
01:25:00,133 --> 01:25:00,892
Speaker 2: That's it's good.

1727
01:25:00,933 --> 01:25:01,492
Speaker 3: It's good treat.

1728
01:25:01,612 --> 01:25:04,093
Speaker 2: I've never experienced that. That sounds very good, so good,

1729
01:25:04,253 --> 01:25:08,092
Speaker 2: so good. Yeah, there was deep fried. This was condensed

1730
01:25:08,093 --> 01:25:09,452
Speaker 2: milk was a big thing in Dunedin.

1731
01:25:09,933 --> 01:25:11,492
Speaker 3: How do your deep fry condensed milk?

1732
01:25:11,772 --> 01:25:13,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you freeze it and then you wrap it

1733
01:25:13,412 --> 01:25:15,412
Speaker 2: and batter and you throw it in the deep fry.

1734
01:25:15,812 --> 01:25:18,812
Speaker 2: That that is a licious deep fried Morrow Bars is

1735
01:25:18,812 --> 01:25:21,052
Speaker 2: another big thing as well. Yeah, that was huge, healthy,

1736
01:25:21,372 --> 01:25:23,532
Speaker 2: very healthy. Yeah, you have five texts from the Heart

1737
01:25:23,612 --> 01:25:24,412
Speaker 2: Foundation that one.

1738
01:25:25,412 --> 01:25:27,612
Speaker 3: But yeah, four dollars fifty for a scoop of chips

1739
01:25:27,772 --> 01:25:29,732
Speaker 3: and you only get thirty four chips to I mean,

1740
01:25:29,772 --> 01:25:31,852
Speaker 3: I can't say I've ever counted the amount of at

1741
01:25:31,933 --> 01:25:33,892
Speaker 3: chips I get from a scoop, but I'd be okay

1742
01:25:33,933 --> 01:25:36,213
Speaker 3: with that four bucks fifty. You're at Munga Fi. It's

1743
01:25:36,253 --> 01:25:38,892
Speaker 3: a holiday hot spot. That's kind of what I expect

1744
01:25:38,933 --> 01:25:39,972
Speaker 3: when I go to those places.

1745
01:25:40,532 --> 01:25:45,093
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's funny because I come from an area

1746
01:25:45,133 --> 01:25:48,133
Speaker 2: where you'd say a dollar's chips, so a scoop was

1747
01:25:48,173 --> 01:25:48,532
Speaker 2: a dollar.

1748
01:25:48,732 --> 01:25:48,932
Speaker 27: Yeah.

1749
01:25:49,013 --> 01:25:51,812
Speaker 2: And I had a friend once who he worked in

1750
01:25:51,853 --> 01:25:53,333
Speaker 2: a fish and chip shop there's a long time ago,

1751
01:25:53,412 --> 01:25:54,732
Speaker 2: and someone came in and said, how much is a

1752
01:25:54,772 --> 01:25:58,772
Speaker 2: dollar's chips? And he goes a dollar and then the

1753
01:25:58,812 --> 01:26:01,133
Speaker 2: guy started smashing up the fish and chip shop. Well,

1754
01:26:01,213 --> 01:26:03,892
Speaker 2: that's that's not an okay rejrect So that's an okay reaction.

1755
01:26:04,333 --> 01:26:06,692
Speaker 2: So I think my head's in the wrong space when

1756
01:26:06,732 --> 01:26:08,932
Speaker 2: it comes to chips. I'm always surprise how much fish

1757
01:26:08,973 --> 01:26:11,333
Speaker 2: and chips cost. Now, But I mean everything costs a

1758
01:26:11,372 --> 01:26:13,852
Speaker 2: lot now, and I think fish and chips is is

1759
01:26:13,933 --> 01:26:15,893
Speaker 2: it still about? There's no one's ever eating fish and

1760
01:26:15,933 --> 01:26:17,612
Speaker 2: chips and not gone completely full, have they?

1761
01:26:17,812 --> 01:26:17,852
Speaker 11: No?

1762
01:26:18,213 --> 01:26:20,133
Speaker 3: But I think what you're about to ask, and I

1763
01:26:20,173 --> 01:26:22,892
Speaker 3: think it's a good question. Are they still the cheaper

1764
01:26:22,933 --> 01:26:25,333
Speaker 3: option for takeaway? I don't know if they are anymore?

1765
01:26:25,333 --> 01:26:27,492
Speaker 3: How much would you pay or would you expect to pay.

1766
01:26:28,492 --> 01:26:31,013
Speaker 3: You've got your two boys, yourself and your partner. If

1767
01:26:31,053 --> 01:26:32,532
Speaker 3: you've got fish and chips for the whole family, how

1768
01:26:32,612 --> 01:26:34,013
Speaker 3: much rea can you be expected to bay?

1769
01:26:34,452 --> 01:26:40,412
Speaker 2: Jeez, that's a really good question, isn't it. M I

1770
01:26:40,492 --> 01:26:43,173
Speaker 2: think fifty bucks? Yeah, I think that's where you'd end

1771
01:26:43,253 --> 01:26:43,412
Speaker 2: up with.

1772
01:26:43,532 --> 01:26:45,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's not cheap takeaway, is it.

1773
01:26:45,293 --> 01:26:47,293
Speaker 2: No, that isn't. But also you get this thing in

1774
01:26:47,492 --> 01:26:51,293
Speaker 2: Auckland that I'd never experienced before where you ask for

1775
01:26:51,853 --> 01:26:54,452
Speaker 2: the fish and then they weigh it and before they

1776
01:26:54,532 --> 01:26:57,612
Speaker 2: deep fry it. So it's not just do that you

1777
01:26:57,772 --> 01:26:59,852
Speaker 2: just you go that Now that happens in a lot

1778
01:26:59,853 --> 01:27:02,012
Speaker 2: of fish and chip shops, Does it in Auckland?

1779
01:27:02,093 --> 01:27:02,293
Speaker 13: Yeah?

1780
01:27:02,293 --> 01:27:03,452
Speaker 2: You go and you say, I'm not sure if it's

1781
01:27:03,452 --> 01:27:04,652
Speaker 2: the rest of the country. People can tell me on

1782
01:27:04,772 --> 01:27:06,732
Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighteen eighty, but I couldn't believe it.

1783
01:27:06,772 --> 01:27:08,093
Speaker 2: The first time. I'd like, I had a piece of

1784
01:27:08,133 --> 01:27:11,012
Speaker 2: snapper and igo, Okay, they've got it out and weighed.

1785
01:27:11,093 --> 01:27:13,452
Speaker 2: That'll be this much. I was like, I can't believe it.

1786
01:27:13,652 --> 01:27:16,772
Speaker 3: I don't like that. One hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1787
01:27:16,893 --> 01:27:19,812
Speaker 3: How much does your local fish and chip shop cost

1788
01:27:20,612 --> 01:27:23,933
Speaker 3: and is it still the cheaper takeaway option? I say no.

1789
01:27:24,213 --> 01:27:25,812
Speaker 3: Maddie says it's about fifty bucks.

1790
01:27:26,973 --> 01:27:30,852
Speaker 2: And also Maddy says that it's Nestles instead of Nesleigh

1791
01:27:30,933 --> 01:27:35,013
Speaker 2: as well. This time of the week, we're just going

1792
01:27:35,053 --> 01:27:38,293
Speaker 2: to gloss over Matt's pronunciation of Nesley. We were going to,

1793
01:27:38,372 --> 01:27:41,093
Speaker 2: but you read out that text's that's a great thing

1794
01:27:41,133 --> 01:27:43,492
Speaker 2: about the new STIGs. He'd be audience, as they keep

1795
01:27:43,572 --> 01:27:45,893
Speaker 2: you very honest. I'll get you and I appreciate it.

1796
01:27:46,213 --> 01:27:47,972
Speaker 3: Oh e one hundred and eighty ten eighties the number

1797
01:27:47,973 --> 01:27:52,173
Speaker 3: to call quarter pass three s eighteen pass three. We're

1798
01:27:52,213 --> 01:27:54,772
Speaker 3: talking about the price of fish and chips. After a

1799
01:27:54,893 --> 01:27:57,492
Speaker 3: Munga Fi local was outraged she was charged four dollars

1800
01:27:57,532 --> 01:27:59,452
Speaker 3: fifty for a scoop of chips and it turns out

1801
01:27:59,492 --> 01:28:02,133
Speaker 3: there is. There were only thirty four chips there, worked

1802
01:28:02,173 --> 01:28:06,293
Speaker 3: out to about thirteen cents a chip. This text, Holy moly,

1803
01:28:06,372 --> 01:28:10,253
Speaker 3: Giday guys, myself, wife and two cat fishermen in Herne Bay.

1804
01:28:10,452 --> 01:28:14,333
Speaker 3: Eighty five bucks, two fish tacos, two kids, fish and chips,

1805
01:28:14,452 --> 01:28:17,853
Speaker 3: regular chips, robbery bit made epic.

1806
01:28:17,812 --> 01:28:20,293
Speaker 2: Fish taco said, a fish and chip shop. There's very

1807
01:28:20,372 --> 01:28:22,412
Speaker 2: herne Bay. That is a great fish and chip shop,

1808
01:28:22,452 --> 01:28:24,132
Speaker 2: though the Herne Bay Fishmart.

1809
01:28:24,492 --> 01:28:26,053
Speaker 3: It turned out he was happy to pay eighty five

1810
01:28:26,093 --> 01:28:26,452
Speaker 3: bucks for that.

1811
01:28:26,572 --> 01:28:28,572
Speaker 2: But yeah, it was so good. I was in there

1812
01:28:28,612 --> 01:28:30,133
Speaker 2: once and I'll tell you who I saw in there.

1813
01:28:30,452 --> 01:28:33,372
Speaker 2: Carlo barn Yeah, and Chris Warner. What's his name?

1814
01:28:34,013 --> 01:28:36,132
Speaker 3: Oh, Michael Michael gl Glvin.

1815
01:28:36,293 --> 01:28:38,293
Speaker 2: So I'm in the Hernbey Fish and Chip Shop. I'm like,

1816
01:28:38,412 --> 01:28:41,932
Speaker 2: I'm in here with two superstars royalty. Yeah, Dan, that's

1817
01:28:41,933 --> 01:28:43,133
Speaker 2: how flesh that fishing chip shop is.

1818
01:28:44,372 --> 01:28:48,133
Speaker 3: Geto, Dan, you're talking to me?

1819
01:28:48,572 --> 01:28:48,812
Speaker 21: Yeah?

1820
01:28:49,093 --> 01:28:51,052
Speaker 3: Yeah, what what would you pay for your fish and chips?

1821
01:28:52,372 --> 01:28:53,333
Speaker 17: It's done? Actually?

1822
01:28:53,812 --> 01:28:58,612
Speaker 2: Oh sorry sorry Dan? Good a Don sorry Don? Yeah, anyway,

1823
01:28:58,612 --> 01:28:59,572
Speaker 2: I'll get it right, Don.

1824
01:29:05,412 --> 01:29:10,772
Speaker 17: Better fish seven fifty sausage, fifty Scooper chips four fifty,

1825
01:29:11,253 --> 01:29:13,213
Speaker 17: I told herlive before I was looking at an old

1826
01:29:13,253 --> 01:29:14,733
Speaker 17: receipt at seventeen.

1827
01:29:14,412 --> 01:29:16,972
Speaker 3: Sixty right, right, So when was that from?

1828
01:29:17,253 --> 01:29:17,412
Speaker 4: Now?

1829
01:29:18,293 --> 01:29:20,933
Speaker 17: That was from Wellington? See martin Ampton.

1830
01:29:20,692 --> 01:29:22,092
Speaker 3: Keith sounds like a good place.

1831
01:29:23,133 --> 01:29:25,133
Speaker 17: Oh, I have great people there, mate, I go there

1832
01:29:25,133 --> 01:29:29,012
Speaker 17: every Friday, have a chat, get my food. You're talking

1833
01:29:29,053 --> 01:29:32,692
Speaker 17: about them weighing fish. What happens is like today they

1834
01:29:32,732 --> 01:29:37,053
Speaker 17: had forty hour which was already pre battered. But if

1835
01:29:37,133 --> 01:29:40,053
Speaker 17: you buy like I usually buy garnered and I get

1836
01:29:40,133 --> 01:29:42,652
Speaker 17: them to batter it because it's just a nicer fish.

1837
01:29:43,053 --> 01:29:46,333
Speaker 17: They weigh that right way, the fresh fish. But the

1838
01:29:46,372 --> 01:29:50,333
Speaker 17: stuff they've already pre prepared, right, that's the set price.

1839
01:29:50,452 --> 01:29:53,372
Speaker 17: So that's what charge. You know, Like when you were

1840
01:29:53,452 --> 01:29:56,852
Speaker 17: surprised they weighed it where you're ever you were was

1841
01:29:56,973 --> 01:30:00,253
Speaker 17: because they yeah, it's fresh fish now.

1842
01:30:00,293 --> 01:30:02,412
Speaker 2: But by the time don you've you've put some fish,

1843
01:30:02,452 --> 01:30:05,692
Speaker 2: you've spent, like, bought an expensive piece of fish that

1844
01:30:05,772 --> 01:30:07,572
Speaker 2: has to be weighed. I mean, is that the best

1845
01:30:07,612 --> 01:30:09,572
Speaker 2: way to eat it? Better it up? And if in

1846
01:30:09,652 --> 01:30:11,772
Speaker 2: a deep fry that seems like it's a bit a

1847
01:30:11,812 --> 01:30:13,492
Speaker 2: bit of a fish leveler.

1848
01:30:14,492 --> 01:30:15,372
Speaker 26: Well not really.

1849
01:30:15,492 --> 01:30:18,093
Speaker 17: I mean, so you get you're unwilling to. Next you

1850
01:30:18,213 --> 01:30:20,412
Speaker 17: go there, get yourself a piece of gurner, get it

1851
01:30:20,492 --> 01:30:23,653
Speaker 17: battered up, sit outside if you want to sit outside Elfrisco,

1852
01:30:24,173 --> 01:30:26,412
Speaker 17: and you'll find it's one of the best fishes you

1853
01:30:26,492 --> 01:30:30,412
Speaker 17: can have fish. So I just prefer it battered fish.

1854
01:30:30,452 --> 01:30:33,812
Speaker 17: I'm not a fish eater. Yeah, that's and I quite

1855
01:30:33,893 --> 01:30:34,612
Speaker 17: enjoy it that way.

1856
01:30:34,853 --> 01:30:38,293
Speaker 3: Did you say seven bucks fifty for a battered sausage.

1857
01:30:39,572 --> 01:30:43,893
Speaker 17: No, No, five sixty for a plain sausage.

1858
01:30:44,772 --> 01:30:45,692
Speaker 2: Just a classic sizage.

1859
01:30:46,933 --> 01:30:49,372
Speaker 17: Well, yeah, but it's not a not a tiny you know,

1860
01:30:50,093 --> 01:30:53,772
Speaker 17: I've been to order sausage, you know, sausages and eggs,

1861
01:30:53,893 --> 01:30:56,173
Speaker 17: and you come out you can't find the sausage.

1862
01:30:55,812 --> 01:30:56,412
Speaker 4: On your plate.

1863
01:30:58,253 --> 01:31:00,053
Speaker 26: You know, you're looking under the table.

1864
01:30:59,812 --> 01:31:03,452
Speaker 17: Going, hey, where's the sausage. You know, these sausages like

1865
01:31:03,572 --> 01:31:06,412
Speaker 17: the same size as my badded the battered fish sort

1866
01:31:06,452 --> 01:31:08,293
Speaker 17: of things. So they are a decent sausage, I mean,

1867
01:31:08,412 --> 01:31:10,532
Speaker 17: so they cut about six slices on the side of

1868
01:31:10,572 --> 01:31:13,092
Speaker 17: it when it's cooking. It's a good size.

1869
01:31:13,333 --> 01:31:13,532
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1870
01:31:14,173 --> 01:31:14,372
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1871
01:31:14,452 --> 01:31:16,852
Speaker 2: And if we're going to mention sausage as a fish

1872
01:31:16,853 --> 01:31:19,013
Speaker 2: and chip shop, I'd be remiss not to mention that

1873
01:31:19,133 --> 01:31:22,652
Speaker 2: the onion sausage. Where are my Iago people at the classic?

1874
01:31:22,933 --> 01:31:28,012
Speaker 2: The need and onion sausage the absolute pinnacle of cuisine.

1875
01:31:28,213 --> 01:31:29,932
Speaker 3: Now you've got to explain it for the people, because

1876
01:31:29,933 --> 01:31:31,732
Speaker 3: I thought it was meshed up onion, that you get

1877
01:31:31,812 --> 01:31:34,012
Speaker 3: some sort of meat concoction going on and then deep

1878
01:31:34,053 --> 01:31:36,213
Speaker 3: fry it. That's not an onion sausage.

1879
01:31:37,853 --> 01:31:42,133
Speaker 2: Tyler of good you tailor Tyler, as I said the

1880
01:31:42,213 --> 01:31:44,293
Speaker 2: other day, was it even yesterday we were talking about this. Yeah,

1881
01:31:45,732 --> 01:31:48,893
Speaker 2: we're backgrounded to already. No, it's what it is is

1882
01:31:49,133 --> 01:31:51,972
Speaker 2: it's it's like a hot dog and that it's battered,

1883
01:31:52,372 --> 01:31:54,732
Speaker 2: but it's a it's a sausage, but it's an onion

1884
01:31:54,933 --> 01:31:56,893
Speaker 2: flavored sausage. So I think it's a kin to the

1885
01:31:56,933 --> 01:31:59,612
Speaker 2: flavor you might get from a sausage roll. But it's bad.

1886
01:31:59,692 --> 01:32:01,972
Speaker 2: And it's a bag old sausage, a big old curved

1887
01:32:02,013 --> 01:32:04,812
Speaker 2: sausage often and you put that in tomato sauce and

1888
01:32:04,973 --> 01:32:06,572
Speaker 2: it is the best thing. And I don't know why

1889
01:32:06,652 --> 01:32:09,972
Speaker 2: it hasn't made it north of Timaru.

1890
01:32:10,213 --> 01:32:12,093
Speaker 3: If you can get an onion sausage in Auckland, love

1891
01:32:12,133 --> 01:32:14,412
Speaker 3: to hear from you on oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

1892
01:32:14,492 --> 01:32:15,692
Speaker 3: It is twenty two past three.

1893
01:32:20,452 --> 01:32:23,812
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred

1894
01:32:23,893 --> 01:32:25,732
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on News Talk ZB.

1895
01:32:25,893 --> 01:32:27,973
Speaker 2: We're talking about fish and chips and that fish and

1896
01:32:28,053 --> 01:32:30,732
Speaker 2: chip shop up north that is charging four fifty for

1897
01:32:30,893 --> 01:32:33,892
Speaker 2: thirty four chips. Someone counted them out. That's a lot.

1898
01:32:34,732 --> 01:32:37,732
Speaker 2: But I'm also talking about onion sausages, as I'm tend

1899
01:32:37,772 --> 01:32:40,093
Speaker 2: to do on Please report the onion sausage has made it,

1900
01:32:40,133 --> 01:32:43,932
Speaker 2: at least as far as christ Church people, a thing

1901
01:32:43,973 --> 01:32:47,173
Speaker 2: of beauty. It is too Yeah yeah, Holy Cow and

1902
01:32:47,253 --> 01:32:51,492
Speaker 2: Cambridge they make the best onion sausages ever. Wow. Okay,

1903
01:32:52,173 --> 01:32:54,692
Speaker 2: someone else says deep fried haggis with curry sauce for

1904
01:32:54,772 --> 01:32:58,372
Speaker 2: the one. Wow, deep it's bold. Is that a real thing?

1905
01:32:58,492 --> 01:33:01,013
Speaker 2: I guess can you get? Surely you can't get a

1906
01:33:01,053 --> 01:33:03,492
Speaker 2: deep fried a chip on New Zeal I'd like to

1907
01:33:03,572 --> 01:33:03,812
Speaker 2: try that.

1908
01:33:03,973 --> 01:33:06,372
Speaker 3: We'll take that person back and find out who offers that. Hey,

1909
01:33:06,492 --> 01:33:09,293
Speaker 3: your Pamela, how are you?

1910
01:33:09,612 --> 01:33:09,812
Speaker 9: God?

1911
01:33:09,853 --> 01:33:11,612
Speaker 3: How much did you spend on your fish and chips?

1912
01:33:12,253 --> 01:33:15,053
Speaker 29: I think memory it was twenty seven dollars fifty for

1913
01:33:15,372 --> 01:33:19,532
Speaker 29: two pieces of snap which were decent size, one lot

1914
01:33:19,612 --> 01:33:22,612
Speaker 29: of chips and a pinteapple fritter, which is enough for me.

1915
01:33:22,973 --> 01:33:25,612
Speaker 2: And did you feel like that was that sounds okay

1916
01:33:25,853 --> 01:33:26,133
Speaker 2: to me?

1917
01:33:27,293 --> 01:33:30,732
Speaker 29: It was, yeah, I don't do takeaways very often. And

1918
01:33:30,812 --> 01:33:33,893
Speaker 29: then stages brought out fish and chips. But actually the

1919
01:33:33,933 --> 01:33:37,692
Speaker 29: fish was really lovely. My favorite fishes is gurnered. But

1920
01:33:38,173 --> 01:33:41,772
Speaker 29: my husband wanted snappers and got two PiZZ of snapper

1921
01:33:41,812 --> 01:33:43,933
Speaker 29: and it was very nice, and you know, it's just

1922
01:33:44,133 --> 01:33:44,692
Speaker 29: really lovely.

1923
01:33:45,612 --> 01:33:47,293
Speaker 20: So yeah, me cooking it.

1924
01:33:47,652 --> 01:33:50,772
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we have we have a sort of

1925
01:33:50,893 --> 01:33:53,852
Speaker 2: perceptional any idea of fish and chips that's out of

1926
01:33:53,893 --> 01:33:55,892
Speaker 2: whack with the rest of things. We always think it's

1927
01:33:55,893 --> 01:33:57,892
Speaker 2: a really cheap meal because there used to be one

1928
01:33:57,933 --> 01:34:00,333
Speaker 2: do there used to be one dollar scoops? Yeah, and

1929
01:34:00,532 --> 01:34:03,532
Speaker 2: so if you if, but yet that's unfair. People just

1930
01:34:03,572 --> 01:34:05,492
Speaker 2: could not make a living out of the prices that

1931
01:34:05,572 --> 01:34:07,772
Speaker 2: we remember from our childhood. It's something that we have.

1932
01:34:08,652 --> 01:34:09,893
Speaker 20: Is that back in the ste.

1933
01:34:14,412 --> 01:34:18,772
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it sounds like they've got it pretty bad

1934
01:34:18,812 --> 01:34:21,892
Speaker 2: in Brisbane. Just got back from Brisbane sixty nine dollars

1935
01:34:22,013 --> 01:34:25,213
Speaker 2: for two snapper, one bettered sausage, three potato fridders and

1936
01:34:25,253 --> 01:34:26,173
Speaker 2: two scoops of chips.

1937
01:34:26,492 --> 01:34:29,092
Speaker 3: That's a lot, and that's Ossie Bucks as well, Pamela.

1938
01:34:29,213 --> 01:34:30,933
Speaker 3: Just on your your pineapple, Fridda, do you get a

1939
01:34:30,973 --> 01:34:32,612
Speaker 3: bit of cinnamon on that? Cinnamon and sugar?

1940
01:34:33,692 --> 01:34:33,892
Speaker 16: Yes?

1941
01:34:34,293 --> 01:34:36,133
Speaker 29: Oh yes, I gotta have the cinnamon sugar.

1942
01:34:37,173 --> 01:34:38,892
Speaker 2: Do you forget? Do you ever throw an onion sausage

1943
01:34:38,893 --> 01:34:39,452
Speaker 2: in there, Pamela?

1944
01:34:41,893 --> 01:34:45,452
Speaker 3: No, no, I know that wasn't into the onion sausages.

1945
01:34:45,492 --> 01:34:48,133
Speaker 2: That was the that was that was too much Christ

1946
01:34:48,293 --> 01:34:49,052
Speaker 2: was too much of Pamela.

1947
01:34:49,133 --> 01:34:54,213
Speaker 18: She was out lost there mate, good, thank you.

1948
01:34:54,333 --> 01:34:56,692
Speaker 30: I'm going to tell you about Toby's and west Orban

1949
01:34:56,772 --> 01:34:58,772
Speaker 30: that there's a couple of them around, but the one

1950
01:34:58,812 --> 01:35:03,173
Speaker 30: we got is on the Rude Hill's Road in mess Yeah,

1951
01:35:03,293 --> 01:35:08,732
Speaker 30: gone back always. I think I last with our fish

1952
01:35:08,772 --> 01:35:11,532
Speaker 30: and chips. I wasn't very good at buying anything but

1953
01:35:12,133 --> 01:35:15,852
Speaker 30: three snapper, one chips, one lot of dollars for three

1954
01:35:16,933 --> 01:35:22,293
Speaker 30: fritters and two sausages for the dogs, and and that

1955
01:35:22,492 --> 01:35:24,253
Speaker 30: ended up being twenty seven eighty. I think you want

1956
01:35:24,293 --> 01:35:24,732
Speaker 30: something like that.

1957
01:35:25,133 --> 01:35:29,412
Speaker 2: Wow, Toby's. That's is that Toby's Seafood? I think, yeah,

1958
01:35:29,732 --> 01:35:33,532
Speaker 2: shout out to Toby's Seafood. That that's that, that's very

1959
01:35:33,692 --> 01:35:36,812
Speaker 2: that is value for money. Three Red Holes Road, massy Auckland.

1960
01:35:37,532 --> 01:35:42,293
Speaker 2: I'm like its E three two, five, five eight eight.

1961
01:35:42,333 --> 01:35:44,412
Speaker 2: If you want to put an order in tonight's.

1962
01:35:43,973 --> 01:35:45,572
Speaker 3: Good shout out. I'll tell you what, Paul. I'm looking

1963
01:35:45,572 --> 01:35:48,173
Speaker 3: at the combos number four thirteen bucks, two fish of

1964
01:35:48,213 --> 01:35:51,452
Speaker 3: the day, two squid rings, two battered muscles, two crabsticks,

1965
01:35:51,532 --> 01:35:54,412
Speaker 3: and three dollar chips. That is value. That is value.

1966
01:35:55,053 --> 01:35:58,492
Speaker 30: Yeah, and you know they are very generous. I'm telling you,

1967
01:35:58,652 --> 01:36:00,492
Speaker 30: when you asked for a scoop and chips, you want

1968
01:36:00,532 --> 01:36:02,772
Speaker 30: to get a scoop and a half. We always have

1969
01:36:02,973 --> 01:36:04,852
Speaker 30: left savors because they always just three fish.

1970
01:36:05,372 --> 01:36:05,612
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1971
01:36:06,732 --> 01:36:12,532
Speaker 30: Sometimes they might think, I.

1972
01:36:12,572 --> 01:36:18,492
Speaker 2: Mean, wow, Toby's seafood. Good on you. Hey, I've got

1973
01:36:18,492 --> 01:36:21,572
Speaker 2: a question for you, Paul. And this may seem trivial,

1974
01:36:21,652 --> 01:36:25,012
Speaker 2: but do you are you shoving your your battered fish

1975
01:36:25,053 --> 01:36:30,412
Speaker 2: into tomato sauce? Hell no, no, Yeah, I used to

1976
01:36:30,492 --> 01:36:33,893
Speaker 2: do that. I used to do that. I used to

1977
01:36:33,933 --> 01:36:35,852
Speaker 2: really aggravate my mum when she did When I did that,

1978
01:36:36,692 --> 01:36:38,612
Speaker 2: I don't know. She was like, fish doesn't go on

1979
01:36:38,652 --> 01:36:41,973
Speaker 2: tomato sauce. Hot dogs do. Yeah, yeah, but then you

1980
01:36:42,093 --> 01:36:43,133
Speaker 2: just tasting tomato sauce.

1981
01:36:43,333 --> 01:36:44,612
Speaker 3: What about tatia.

1982
01:36:46,572 --> 01:36:47,652
Speaker 2: I'd never heard of Tatia.

1983
01:36:48,013 --> 01:36:53,852
Speaker 3: Pretty fancy. Oh one hundred eighty is the number to call.

1984
01:36:54,333 --> 01:36:56,372
Speaker 3: We've got the headlines coming up, and then after that

1985
01:36:57,372 --> 01:36:59,652
Speaker 3: we're going to have a chat to very great New Zealand.

1986
01:36:59,692 --> 01:37:02,852
Speaker 2: That's route, that's route. So I'm getting punished for my

1987
01:37:02,893 --> 01:37:06,133
Speaker 2: pronunciation and now I'm not even getting right right. That's route,

1988
01:37:06,652 --> 01:37:10,372
Speaker 2: that's right rout Tyler. We're talking to ex All Blacks

1989
01:37:10,412 --> 01:37:13,772
Speaker 2: captain Karen Reid of about the game this weekend against

1990
01:37:13,772 --> 01:37:16,173
Speaker 2: Italy and the season as a whole. How do we

1991
01:37:16,253 --> 01:37:18,372
Speaker 2: rate the All Blacks and Razor and how's everything going.

1992
01:37:18,372 --> 01:37:20,972
Speaker 3: Looking forward to that? It is bang on hp US three.

1993
01:37:24,293 --> 01:37:27,892
Speaker 9: You talk savy headlines with blue bubble taxi is it's

1994
01:37:28,013 --> 01:37:30,972
Speaker 9: no trouble with a blue bubble. Plans for a five

1995
01:37:31,133 --> 01:37:34,812
Speaker 9: hundred million dollar upgrade at Wellington Airport could create more

1996
01:37:34,853 --> 01:37:38,532
Speaker 9: connections on the world stage, with blueprints for an extended

1997
01:37:38,652 --> 01:37:42,773
Speaker 9: runway that could allow direct flights to more overseas destinations.

1998
01:37:43,532 --> 01:37:47,412
Speaker 9: State owned enterprise Land Corp, also known as PAMU Farms,

1999
01:37:47,772 --> 01:37:52,293
Speaker 9: has skyrocketed its earnings expectations from eight million dollars to

2000
01:37:52,412 --> 01:37:56,532
Speaker 9: twenty five to forty million. Prime Minister Chris Luxon says

2001
01:37:56,692 --> 01:38:00,572
Speaker 9: it's not acceptable for ministers to call people names in parliament.

2002
01:38:01,173 --> 01:38:06,252
Speaker 9: Education Minister Ericas Stanford is apologized in the House personally

2003
01:38:06,372 --> 01:38:10,093
Speaker 9: to jan Toinetti and to the Prime Minister after denigrating

2004
01:38:10,213 --> 01:38:14,652
Speaker 9: the labor MP j Antonetti under her breath. Contact's new

2005
01:38:14,732 --> 01:38:18,492
Speaker 9: geothermal power station opened at Tohara today. In their topor,

2006
01:38:18,973 --> 01:38:22,012
Speaker 9: it costs nine hundred and twenty four million dollars after

2007
01:38:22,093 --> 01:38:25,732
Speaker 9: delays and cost blowouts, and can par about two hundred

2008
01:38:25,812 --> 01:38:31,253
Speaker 9: thousand homes. Why do we cry the science behind human tears,

2009
01:38:31,492 --> 01:38:35,052
Speaker 9: explained Seymour at ends and Herald Premium back to matte

2010
01:38:35,053 --> 01:38:36,612
Speaker 9: Ethan Tyler Adams, thank.

2011
01:38:36,492 --> 01:38:39,772
Speaker 3: You very much, Ray Lean. So the All Blacks v Italy,

2012
01:38:39,933 --> 01:38:43,892
Speaker 3: of course, Sunday nine ten am kickoff the last game

2013
01:38:44,013 --> 01:38:46,772
Speaker 3: of their Northern tour. It's gonna be a doozy so

2014
01:38:47,173 --> 01:38:49,932
Speaker 3: to chat about this, We've got on Kieran Reid, former

2015
01:38:49,973 --> 01:38:52,493
Speaker 3: All Blacks captain, Gee Kieren.

2016
01:38:53,173 --> 01:38:54,133
Speaker 27: Hey guys, here we go.

2017
01:38:54,532 --> 01:38:56,733
Speaker 2: Good thanks. I socket now, last time's.

2018
01:38:58,333 --> 01:38:59,492
Speaker 3: You had to get that one in there?

2019
01:39:01,572 --> 01:39:04,893
Speaker 2: There's one socket, yeah, just one, just one socket. I

2020
01:39:05,053 --> 01:39:07,812
Speaker 2: socket's read. Last time we played itly we put ninety

2021
01:39:07,853 --> 01:39:10,972
Speaker 2: six on there. Why here's Razor such a strong side.

2022
01:39:13,412 --> 01:39:13,933
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2023
01:39:14,133 --> 01:39:17,692
Speaker 27: Actually I'm a little bit missed. I think, you know,

2024
01:39:18,173 --> 01:39:22,932
Speaker 27: even at Lee's recent results, right, they lost by susteed Argentina,

2025
01:39:22,933 --> 01:39:26,333
Speaker 27: I think to Pan beat them. So look, I don't

2026
01:39:26,333 --> 01:39:29,492
Speaker 27: think we're in any threat. I'm not too sure. I

2027
01:39:29,572 --> 01:39:31,852
Speaker 27: think it's just like, man, we're playing really well. We've

2028
01:39:31,893 --> 01:39:34,892
Speaker 27: had three great weeks up there. Maybe he's like, let's

2029
01:39:34,893 --> 01:39:38,612
Speaker 27: bank a number one, keep the boys confidence up, hiding

2030
01:39:38,612 --> 01:39:39,213
Speaker 27: its next year.

2031
01:39:39,452 --> 01:39:42,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, if or when we win this, Kieran, how do

2032
01:39:42,372 --> 01:39:43,972
Speaker 3: you think the season will be remembered?

2033
01:39:46,133 --> 01:39:47,973
Speaker 27: Yeah, I think it's you know, I think we got

2034
01:39:47,973 --> 01:39:49,572
Speaker 27: to the point now where we're not it's not all

2035
01:39:49,572 --> 01:39:51,972
Speaker 27: about outcomes, right, and it's just about when it's about,

2036
01:39:52,772 --> 01:39:54,812
Speaker 27: you know, where where the process is going it with

2037
01:39:54,933 --> 01:39:57,972
Speaker 27: this team. So I think we're going to be pretty happy.

2038
01:39:59,213 --> 01:40:02,133
Speaker 27: You know, twice to Saska we lost over there, which

2039
01:40:02,213 --> 01:40:04,692
Speaker 27: which is not too surprising given though they were champs,

2040
01:40:05,853 --> 01:40:08,692
Speaker 27: you know, and we've trend it upwards. So that's you can,

2041
01:40:09,692 --> 01:40:11,452
Speaker 27: I guess asked for from a team with a new

2042
01:40:11,492 --> 01:40:15,053
Speaker 27: coaching staff, a lot of new players. So definitely, this

2043
01:40:15,253 --> 01:40:20,173
Speaker 27: tour has been really successful. For us, and probably more

2044
01:40:20,213 --> 01:40:23,053
Speaker 27: so around our performances, to be honest, So you know

2045
01:40:23,173 --> 01:40:26,053
Speaker 27: we've actually shine a bit more cohesion, a bit more

2046
01:40:26,093 --> 01:40:29,572
Speaker 27: timing it within our squad, which was probably lacking for

2047
01:40:29,692 --> 01:40:31,053
Speaker 27: a good part of the season so far.

2048
01:40:32,093 --> 01:40:33,893
Speaker 2: Now that's a bit off topic, but what do you

2049
01:40:33,933 --> 01:40:36,692
Speaker 2: think about the video referee decisions in the French game?

2050
01:40:36,772 --> 01:40:38,333
Speaker 2: Do you agree with my calls that I've been making

2051
01:40:38,452 --> 01:40:40,572
Speaker 2: on Matt and Tyler afternoons on ZB that we get

2052
01:40:40,692 --> 01:40:43,013
Speaker 2: rid of all the video decisions and just go with

2053
01:40:43,093 --> 01:40:46,053
Speaker 2: the on field decisions so the game flows and we

2054
01:40:46,133 --> 01:40:48,612
Speaker 2: can celebrate tries when they happen and we're not constantly

2055
01:40:48,812 --> 01:40:51,972
Speaker 2: being confused and taken back to things that we don't understand.

2056
01:40:53,732 --> 01:40:58,652
Speaker 27: Yeah, that's a good point, Maddie. I'm not too sure.

2057
01:40:58,692 --> 01:40:59,093
Speaker 2: I'm torn.

2058
01:40:59,173 --> 01:40:59,933
Speaker 4: I get it.

2059
01:41:00,013 --> 01:41:03,492
Speaker 27: It's frustrating and I'll get frustoed too watching it. I

2060
01:41:03,572 --> 01:41:08,213
Speaker 27: think personally, I think of the TMO. It wants to

2061
01:41:08,452 --> 01:41:10,253
Speaker 27: rule on something. He's got a rule on it, and

2062
01:41:11,053 --> 01:41:13,133
Speaker 27: not get the rest to run down the other end

2063
01:41:13,173 --> 01:41:16,652
Speaker 27: and look at a bit make it like so you

2064
01:41:16,812 --> 01:41:20,892
Speaker 27: come down, You've got twenty seconds post live right because

2065
01:41:20,893 --> 01:41:23,652
Speaker 27: you're watching the game. If you think it's a yellow

2066
01:41:23,732 --> 01:41:26,013
Speaker 27: card or you think it's a penalty, say penalty and

2067
01:41:26,133 --> 01:41:28,093
Speaker 27: we go back to it and it's banged straight away.

2068
01:41:28,173 --> 01:41:30,213
Speaker 27: That happens. You can't say, let's look at it. I

2069
01:41:30,253 --> 01:41:31,652
Speaker 27: think it's got to be one or the other. So

2070
01:41:32,093 --> 01:41:35,253
Speaker 27: that's I think maybe the way to keep it going,

2071
01:41:36,572 --> 01:41:39,293
Speaker 27: you know. But yeah, it's it is frustrating when it

2072
01:41:39,612 --> 01:41:42,372
Speaker 27: gets so stop start. I think, Yeah, what I like

2073
01:41:42,452 --> 01:41:44,452
Speaker 27: to see. It's like, man, make it, make a decision,

2074
01:41:45,492 --> 01:41:46,932
Speaker 27: and that's what the rest on the field are doing.

2075
01:41:47,372 --> 01:41:49,173
Speaker 27: There's more. It's a vibe game in some ways I

2076
01:41:49,213 --> 01:41:50,852
Speaker 27: think it'd be so you just got to you still

2077
01:41:50,853 --> 01:41:52,572
Speaker 27: got to kind of have that for a bit of

2078
01:41:52,612 --> 01:41:53,013
Speaker 27: flow in it.

2079
01:41:53,372 --> 01:41:56,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a big fan of the vibe. Vibe try.

2080
01:41:56,572 --> 01:41:58,333
Speaker 2: It's the vibe that it was a try it is

2081
01:41:58,492 --> 01:42:00,612
Speaker 2: right then, let's just award it right then so we

2082
01:42:00,692 --> 01:42:04,093
Speaker 2: can all all celebrate at that time. Hey, so, Karen read,

2083
01:42:04,093 --> 01:42:05,892
Speaker 2: how do you think the All Black's future is looking at?

2084
01:42:06,173 --> 01:42:09,412
Speaker 2: Are you happy with how we're building one hundred?

2085
01:42:09,732 --> 01:42:09,892
Speaker 20: Yeah?

2086
01:42:09,933 --> 01:42:12,253
Speaker 27: I think so. I was very lucky to be up

2087
01:42:12,293 --> 01:42:15,093
Speaker 27: in the UK and in Ireland and got along to

2088
01:42:15,173 --> 01:42:18,053
Speaker 27: a training up up there in Dublin. And chucked on

2089
01:42:18,133 --> 01:42:21,133
Speaker 27: the boots actually and showed the boys not really but

2090
01:42:21,933 --> 01:42:23,972
Speaker 27: still got it. Did my best on the wing mate,

2091
01:42:25,013 --> 01:42:28,412
Speaker 27: and just just an old body to be honest in

2092
01:42:28,652 --> 01:42:30,812
Speaker 27: a way. But like it was interesting to see that

2093
01:42:31,093 --> 01:42:32,973
Speaker 27: they look bloody young to me, to be honest, some

2094
01:42:33,093 --> 01:42:37,013
Speaker 27: of those boys. So but you see, the individual performances

2095
01:42:38,492 --> 01:42:41,333
Speaker 27: have been really fantastic. You know, a guy like Peopu

2096
01:42:42,013 --> 01:42:44,652
Speaker 27: for me, has stepped up immensely this year in the

2097
01:42:44,692 --> 01:42:47,612
Speaker 27: second row. All the teacher is obviously going to be fantastic.

2098
01:42:47,692 --> 01:42:53,412
Speaker 27: We've got great halfbacks, Cameroy guard, Cortiers, Ratzma will play

2099
01:42:53,532 --> 01:42:57,492
Speaker 27: for ten years and duck quick they run, and so

2100
01:42:57,612 --> 01:42:59,253
Speaker 27: I think we'll be able to change our game a

2101
01:42:59,333 --> 01:43:03,893
Speaker 27: little bit to utilize these guys in the future. And

2102
01:43:04,053 --> 01:43:08,293
Speaker 27: so what we've seen so much is these great individual performances. Georgie,

2103
01:43:08,492 --> 01:43:09,892
Speaker 27: it was great this year, but we didn't really see

2104
01:43:09,893 --> 01:43:11,892
Speaker 27: our team come together. So I think we've just finally

2105
01:43:11,933 --> 01:43:15,452
Speaker 27: seen the boys kind of understand Razor, you know how

2106
01:43:15,532 --> 01:43:19,173
Speaker 27: he works, and I think it's starting to come together.

2107
01:43:19,213 --> 01:43:22,052
Speaker 27: And I think it's been it's been a reasonably successful

2108
01:43:22,093 --> 01:43:25,772
Speaker 27: year in that essence. So yeah, plenty plenty upside for

2109
01:43:25,893 --> 01:43:26,333
Speaker 27: the lads.

2110
01:43:26,772 --> 01:43:28,772
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's feeling good, so obviously we're going to win

2111
01:43:28,853 --> 01:43:31,532
Speaker 2: this game. But score predictions, what is it ninety six

2112
01:43:31,652 --> 01:43:32,572
Speaker 2: seventeen last time?

2113
01:43:34,412 --> 01:43:36,333
Speaker 27: Yes, score predictions. I don't know. I never chuck out

2114
01:43:36,372 --> 01:43:38,692
Speaker 27: of score. You're going to get me doing that. Make

2115
01:43:39,492 --> 01:43:41,372
Speaker 27: when we jump on it and it won't it won't happen.

2116
01:43:41,532 --> 01:43:44,412
Speaker 27: But look, yeah we won't and it will be comfortable. Yeah,

2117
01:43:45,013 --> 01:43:49,013
Speaker 27: you know, the thing is probably the last game kind

2118
01:43:49,053 --> 01:43:51,772
Speaker 27: of you know, there's think thoughts are home put together

2119
01:43:51,853 --> 01:43:54,133
Speaker 27: on the plane, but I think the boys are kind

2120
01:43:54,133 --> 01:43:56,133
Speaker 27: of at that stage where they know they want to

2121
01:43:56,133 --> 01:43:58,732
Speaker 27: put in a good performance. Obviously that he's named a

2122
01:43:58,772 --> 01:44:03,093
Speaker 27: strong side, we start well, you know, the floodgates could open,

2123
01:44:03,572 --> 01:44:04,532
Speaker 27: which I hope that.

2124
01:44:04,853 --> 01:44:07,692
Speaker 2: At least going Yeah, thanks Razor, thanks for putting putting

2125
01:44:07,732 --> 01:44:10,892
Speaker 2: out this field. You possibly good on the back. That's

2126
01:44:10,973 --> 01:44:14,012
Speaker 2: Karen Ice Socket's read ex All Black Captain and great

2127
01:44:14,053 --> 01:44:14,572
Speaker 2: New Zealander.

2128
01:44:14,612 --> 01:44:16,293
Speaker 14: Thanks mate, should go.

2129
01:44:16,532 --> 01:44:20,173
Speaker 3: Go well mate, one right, great chat. What's your prediction

2130
01:44:20,333 --> 01:44:21,452
Speaker 3: for the All Blacks for Italy?

2131
01:44:21,612 --> 01:44:23,213
Speaker 2: I never do predictions. I'm like Karen Reid, you know,

2132
01:44:23,293 --> 01:44:25,892
Speaker 2: don't put me on the spot. I'm like Karen Reid.

2133
01:44:27,652 --> 01:44:30,253
Speaker 2: We'll smash them. It'll be, it'll be, it will be

2134
01:44:30,293 --> 01:44:32,532
Speaker 2: at least sixty. We'll put at least sixty on them.

2135
01:44:32,612 --> 01:44:35,852
Speaker 3: Yeah, looking forward to that nine ten am kickoff for that,

2136
01:44:35,973 --> 01:44:39,253
Speaker 3: but at this time for Topical Tune. So this is

2137
01:44:39,253 --> 01:44:40,652
Speaker 3: a part of the show where.

2138
01:44:40,933 --> 01:44:44,572
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, Tyler, everyone's favorite part of the week,

2139
01:44:45,333 --> 01:44:48,973
Speaker 2: the Topical Tune where Tyler and II we pick a

2140
01:44:49,093 --> 01:44:51,452
Speaker 2: song from a topic of the week and then we

2141
01:44:51,532 --> 01:44:53,572
Speaker 2: put it to the phones. Eight hundred and eighty ten

2142
01:44:53,732 --> 01:44:57,372
Speaker 2: eighty first to three votes wins. It's currently sitting at

2143
01:44:57,452 --> 01:45:01,293
Speaker 2: five two to me. He did win last week and

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01:45:01,372 --> 01:45:05,492
Speaker 2: my surprize victory it was closed. So because you won

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01:45:05,612 --> 01:45:08,053
Speaker 2: last week, you get to go first in pitching your song.

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01:45:08,612 --> 01:45:10,772
Speaker 3: Well, so there was a bit of chat about nuclear

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01:45:11,013 --> 01:45:13,173
Speaker 3: energy in New Zealand this week, and I've picked a

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01:45:13,253 --> 01:45:15,732
Speaker 3: song that's not quite about nuclear energy, but it was

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01:45:15,933 --> 01:45:20,652
Speaker 3: about nuclear war and the recklessness, arrogance and incompetence that

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01:45:20,853 --> 01:45:24,133
Speaker 3: could happen in those situations. But it's a fantastic song here.

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01:45:24,253 --> 01:45:24,532
Speaker 25: It is.

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01:45:36,213 --> 01:45:41,213
Speaker 3: Ninety nine Luft to Balloons from Nina. Fantastic chune.

2153
01:45:41,412 --> 01:45:43,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm going to call you up on that

2154
01:45:43,053 --> 01:45:45,492
Speaker 2: because we were talking about nuclear fish and we weren't

2155
01:45:45,532 --> 01:45:48,412
Speaker 2: talking about nuclear weapons. And I think you're muttering the

2156
01:45:48,452 --> 01:45:50,293
Speaker 2: waters there. And I think that's part of the problem

2157
01:45:50,333 --> 01:45:53,213
Speaker 2: we've got with people bringing nuclear into New Zealand, is

2158
01:45:53,253 --> 01:45:55,333
Speaker 2: that people are conflating those two things. So I think

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01:45:55,333 --> 01:45:58,053
Speaker 2: people will take that into account when they vote. My

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01:45:58,333 --> 01:46:02,372
Speaker 2: song go here we Go my song. The topic of

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01:46:02,412 --> 01:46:05,892
Speaker 2: the week is we've got a new commissioner. Commissioner Richard

2162
01:46:06,053 --> 01:46:10,013
Speaker 2: Felix Chambers is to the police right now, and a

2163
01:46:10,133 --> 01:46:13,133
Speaker 2: lot of smart people are noticing how much he looks

2164
01:46:13,213 --> 01:46:16,133
Speaker 2: like Sam J. Jones, the star of the nineteen eighty

2165
01:46:16,253 --> 01:46:21,772
Speaker 2: sci fi film Flash Gordon, which had a fantastic theme

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01:46:21,933 --> 01:46:24,253
Speaker 2: tune from one of the greatest bands of all time,

2167
01:46:24,372 --> 01:46:42,893
Speaker 2: Queen Absolute Chance. Here we go, Felix Chambers, Savior of

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01:46:42,973 --> 01:46:43,612
Speaker 2: the Police Force.

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01:46:45,173 --> 01:46:45,572
Speaker 17: Here we go?

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01:46:46,933 --> 01:46:50,732
Speaker 2: Okay, SOO hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number?

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01:46:51,812 --> 01:46:52,012
Speaker 11: Call?

2172
01:46:52,133 --> 01:46:52,253
Speaker 8: Now?

2173
01:46:52,652 --> 01:46:55,452
Speaker 2: Is that Tyler's I can't even remember what the tune was.

2174
01:46:55,492 --> 01:46:59,612
Speaker 2: It say I love the balloon on the nuclear issue

2175
01:46:59,812 --> 01:47:04,612
Speaker 2: or Flash Gordon on the Richard Felix Chambers issue.

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01:47:04,772 --> 01:47:07,253
Speaker 3: I reckon I'm going to get an absolute downtrail here

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01:47:07,333 --> 01:47:09,333
Speaker 3: in my favorite say.

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01:47:09,093 --> 01:47:10,532
Speaker 2: Absolute downtrail in your favor.

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01:47:10,652 --> 01:47:13,012
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I went. I'll take my pants off as well. Okay,

2180
01:47:13,973 --> 01:47:17,012
Speaker 3: eighty ten is it? It is eighteen four.

2181
01:47:19,253 --> 01:47:24,572
Speaker 1: Matteeth Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight hundred Tyler

2182
01:47:24,652 --> 01:47:27,052
Speaker 1: Adams Afternoons News Talk said.

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01:47:26,853 --> 01:47:31,333
Speaker 3: Be topical tunes are quick resets. My song today, great

2184
01:47:31,372 --> 01:47:36,412
Speaker 3: little German number. That is a tune Tier Congratulations ninety

2185
01:47:36,492 --> 01:47:38,532
Speaker 3: nine Left a Balloons that's on.

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01:47:38,572 --> 01:47:41,812
Speaker 2: The issue of nuclear power and will it ever come

2187
01:47:41,853 --> 01:47:45,412
Speaker 2: to New ZEALANDEP Hopefully nuclear war never comes to New Zealand,

2188
01:47:45,572 --> 01:47:47,052
Speaker 2: which is what that song is actually talking about.

2189
01:47:47,133 --> 01:47:48,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you got them.

2190
01:47:49,133 --> 01:47:52,812
Speaker 2: But my tune is based around the new police Commissioner

2191
01:47:52,893 --> 01:47:55,652
Speaker 2: Richard Felix Chambers. He looks a lot like the star

2192
01:47:55,732 --> 01:47:58,812
Speaker 2: of the nineteen eighty sci fi movie Fledsh Gordon, which

2193
01:47:58,893 --> 01:48:02,293
Speaker 2: may be considered an obscure reference, but I backed the tune.

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01:48:02,853 --> 01:48:10,293
Speaker 2: Here we go, Felix Chambers, save you over the police force.

2195
01:48:13,372 --> 01:48:15,492
Speaker 2: I'm gonna try and head it on time. Here good,

2196
01:48:15,532 --> 01:48:16,812
Speaker 2: you gotta wait for me to head it on time.

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01:48:17,013 --> 01:48:22,213
Speaker 23: Felix dammit, Chambers, save you the thanks. He's got a

2198
01:48:22,293 --> 01:48:25,532
Speaker 23: question the letter. It's a disaster, right I one hundred

2199
01:48:25,532 --> 01:48:27,692
Speaker 23: and eighty ten eighty. If you can't get through, keep trying.

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01:48:27,853 --> 01:48:30,333
Speaker 23: Here we go, Matthew, who do you think?

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01:48:31,253 --> 01:48:33,852
Speaker 26: Oh, Thil's no chance, Matt.

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01:48:33,893 --> 01:48:35,093
Speaker 14: Fire all my man?

2203
01:48:36,372 --> 01:48:38,213
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Lush, I love you.

2204
01:48:38,532 --> 01:48:39,213
Speaker 19: But what is it?

2205
01:48:40,612 --> 01:48:41,572
Speaker 2: Thank you so much? Mith?

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01:48:41,732 --> 01:48:44,092
Speaker 3: It cheers, Meth you won for Meddie get Andrew.

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01:48:45,133 --> 01:48:46,293
Speaker 13: Good afternoon team.

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01:48:46,412 --> 01:48:47,412
Speaker 27: I'm going with matt.

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01:48:47,612 --> 01:48:51,052
Speaker 2: There you go, you trouble Tyler, A couple of great.

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01:48:52,572 --> 01:48:54,652
Speaker 3: Troy, how you doing this afternoon.

2211
01:48:55,732 --> 01:48:56,052
Speaker 4: Tyler?

2212
01:48:56,213 --> 01:48:57,972
Speaker 19: Is no doubt it has to be ninety nine?

2213
01:49:00,933 --> 01:49:01,133
Speaker 20: Yeah?

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01:49:01,372 --> 01:49:03,133
Speaker 2: That even something else? I mean it is a great song.

2215
01:49:03,173 --> 01:49:04,053
Speaker 2: Flo I'll give you that much.

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01:49:04,133 --> 01:49:05,852
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, thank It's a great song. Thank you,

2217
01:49:05,933 --> 01:49:07,612
Speaker 3: Troy James. What are you reckon today?

2218
01:49:08,652 --> 01:49:08,812
Speaker 6: Well?

2219
01:49:08,812 --> 01:49:11,333
Speaker 20: I'm not the pop balloon here, mate, but I have

2220
01:49:11,452 --> 01:49:13,372
Speaker 20: to go with question.

2221
01:49:13,933 --> 01:49:17,173
Speaker 19: Queen, Queen man, queen.

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01:49:18,173 --> 01:49:18,532
Speaker 11: There you go.

2223
01:49:18,772 --> 01:49:22,652
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Hipopped ninety nine, sift off belongs

2224
01:49:22,772 --> 01:49:23,813
Speaker 2: and the victory.

2225
01:49:23,652 --> 01:49:23,893
Speaker 19: Is to me?

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01:49:24,053 --> 01:49:26,012
Speaker 3: Yeah, well done. What this is going to be? Memories

2227
01:49:26,013 --> 01:49:30,012
Speaker 3: a flashcard and six two sex two? What is going

2228
01:49:30,093 --> 01:49:30,452
Speaker 3: on here?

2229
01:49:30,732 --> 01:49:31,532
Speaker 27: What is going on?

2230
01:49:31,652 --> 01:49:35,173
Speaker 2: What an absolute tune? And you're seeing Felix Chambers savor

2231
01:49:35,213 --> 01:49:36,893
Speaker 2: of the police force yourself because I can't hit it

2232
01:49:36,933 --> 01:49:37,253
Speaker 2: in time.

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01:50:01,173 --> 01:50:10,173
Speaker 11: Extra to collected s. Why did any explanations.

2234
01:50:16,732 --> 01:50:17,253
Speaker 20: This morning?

2235
01:50:17,452 --> 01:50:18,052
Speaker 11: Un president?

2236
01:50:18,133 --> 01:50:20,973
Speaker 2: A solar eclipse is no cause for along.

2237
01:50:28,772 --> 01:50:42,173
Speaker 11: This stand, Flash of garden approaching?

2238
01:50:42,772 --> 01:50:43,852
Speaker 19: What do you mean?

2239
01:50:44,412 --> 01:50:50,772
Speaker 14: Flash golden approaching? Over fall.

2240
01:50:53,133 --> 01:50:56,493
Speaker 3: Dispatched more Rocketey Jackson to bring back his body.

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01:51:04,173 --> 01:51:06,892
Speaker 14: Gordon see.

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01:51:10,853 --> 01:51:16,852
Speaker 2: He said, just man.

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01:51:18,492 --> 01:51:23,813
Speaker 5: Best Cottage, good mom.

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01:51:25,253 --> 01:51:26,732
Speaker 12: Man, fir.

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01:51:49,053 --> 01:51:51,293
Speaker 17: Whe w have you?

2246
01:51:51,853 --> 01:51:53,213
Speaker 13: We only have fourteen.

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01:51:52,893 --> 01:51:54,092
Speaker 3: Hours to save the earth.

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01:51:55,572 --> 01:52:11,532
Speaker 2: Street absolute tune is flash. I love you, but we

2249
01:52:11,652 --> 01:52:14,932
Speaker 2: only have fourteen hours to save the earth. The greatest worst,

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01:52:15,013 --> 01:52:16,292
Speaker 2: greatest worst line.

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01:52:16,093 --> 01:52:20,412
Speaker 3: Of great and well done, mate. It is nice memories

2252
01:52:20,412 --> 01:52:21,093
Speaker 3: springing that back.

2253
01:52:21,213 --> 01:52:25,532
Speaker 2: There you go, and I hope Felix Chambers loves that.

2254
01:52:25,853 --> 01:52:28,452
Speaker 3: Yeah, just as quick text. This segment is more rerigged

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01:52:28,492 --> 01:52:30,412
Speaker 3: than a Jake poul fight. Have do I agree?

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01:52:31,213 --> 01:52:31,532
Speaker 5: You know what?

2257
01:52:31,812 --> 01:52:32,293
Speaker 2: How dare you?

2258
01:52:33,452 --> 01:52:33,492
Speaker 14: Is?

2259
01:52:33,772 --> 01:52:36,293
Speaker 2: We just go to the phones. I can't help it

2260
01:52:36,412 --> 01:52:39,333
Speaker 2: if people love me more than they love Tyler.

2261
01:52:39,173 --> 01:52:41,732
Speaker 3: Considering I'm controlling the phones. Yeut of it is that

2262
01:52:41,893 --> 01:52:44,732
Speaker 3: wrecked right? Coming up very shortly, we have a chat

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01:52:44,812 --> 01:52:48,213
Speaker 3: with Dars about his top three sporting events for the weekends.

2264
01:52:48,692 --> 01:52:49,572
Speaker 3: It is ten to four.

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01:52:51,253 --> 01:52:54,612
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

2266
01:52:54,973 --> 01:52:57,572
Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

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01:52:57,732 --> 01:53:00,772
Speaker 14: Afternoons you for twenty twenty four US Talk, said B,

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01:53:01,133 --> 01:53:01,412
Speaker 14: said B.

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01:53:01,853 --> 01:53:04,213
Speaker 3: Almost happy hour and a finish of the show. We

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01:53:04,333 --> 01:53:07,293
Speaker 3: got Darcy water Grave and Studio Mace.

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01:53:07,452 --> 01:53:08,253
Speaker 31: Your cheap drinks?

2272
01:53:08,412 --> 01:53:08,652
Speaker 13: Am I.

2273
01:53:11,013 --> 01:53:11,213
Speaker 3: Play?

2274
01:53:12,173 --> 01:53:12,812
Speaker 2: I'm happy?

2275
01:53:13,133 --> 01:53:13,772
Speaker 3: What can I do for you?

2276
01:53:13,893 --> 01:53:14,333
Speaker 31: Find men?

2277
01:53:14,572 --> 01:53:17,612
Speaker 3: What are your top three sporting events for the weekend?

2278
01:53:18,093 --> 01:53:22,933
Speaker 31: Well, I would like to touch on race cars on

2279
01:53:23,853 --> 01:53:27,333
Speaker 31: blood Sport, and they know that's not the All Blacks

2280
01:53:27,372 --> 01:53:32,572
Speaker 31: taking on it, and of course taking on itally that

2281
01:53:32,893 --> 01:53:36,172
Speaker 31: that's the end of the season for the All Blacks.

2282
01:53:36,213 --> 01:53:41,612
Speaker 31: And as we know, this team is phenomenally strong. This

2283
01:53:41,853 --> 01:53:44,812
Speaker 31: is a bazookah to a knighte fight. And when we

2284
01:53:45,013 --> 01:53:47,652
Speaker 31: know what Razor wants to achieve, he's going to put

2285
01:53:47,692 --> 01:53:50,693
Speaker 31: an exclamation mark on the end of the season.

2286
01:53:50,452 --> 01:53:51,293
Speaker 17: Like there we go.

2287
01:53:51,772 --> 01:53:53,812
Speaker 31: You just take that to the beach with you and

2288
01:53:54,133 --> 01:53:57,253
Speaker 31: remember who's running this show. So it's pretty brutal.

2289
01:53:58,532 --> 01:54:02,772
Speaker 2: If had a different team, if we hadn't lost against France, I.

2290
01:54:03,013 --> 01:54:06,772
Speaker 31: Get the feeling that he wants to finish with a band.

2291
01:54:06,933 --> 01:54:10,132
Speaker 31: You know what, I don't think he's particularly sentimental character.

2292
01:54:10,333 --> 01:54:12,973
Speaker 31: No we know what he's done previously with the Crusaders.

2293
01:54:13,133 --> 01:54:15,652
Speaker 31: Was it when White Crockett you're tired? Did they pick

2294
01:54:15,732 --> 01:54:18,012
Speaker 31: him for the last couple of games? But we really

2295
01:54:18,053 --> 01:54:20,933
Speaker 31: wanted do you sit over there? It's pretty brutal, so

2296
01:54:21,253 --> 01:54:23,612
Speaker 31: I think we'll see that. Great to see Sam Caine

2297
01:54:23,612 --> 01:54:28,213
Speaker 31: for his last game. TJ Pittinara that considering the state

2298
01:54:28,253 --> 01:54:31,293
Speaker 31: of the opposition, who got nearly one hundred points put

2299
01:54:31,333 --> 01:54:33,493
Speaker 31: on them by Foster's team last time around at the

2300
01:54:33,533 --> 01:54:36,413
Speaker 31: World Cups, I expect a statement of intent and this

2301
01:54:36,533 --> 01:54:38,533
Speaker 31: is what this team says. And that of course is

2302
01:54:38,853 --> 01:54:41,932
Speaker 31: early hours of early hours early for me because I'm lazy.

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01:54:42,373 --> 01:54:45,093
Speaker 31: Team past nine on Sunday morning. Elliott Smith is our man.

2304
01:54:45,413 --> 01:54:46,932
Speaker 31: He has called on News Talk.

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01:54:47,013 --> 01:54:49,892
Speaker 2: Z B and iHeart that's a nice time for rugby, yeah,

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01:54:50,013 --> 01:54:50,653
Speaker 2: and not so bad.

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01:54:50,733 --> 01:54:54,213
Speaker 31: Also other stuff to watch as well. Plainly I love

2308
01:54:54,493 --> 01:54:57,253
Speaker 31: mixed martial arts and I'm really looking forward to Carlos

2309
01:54:57,413 --> 01:55:00,932
Speaker 31: the Black jag Alburg fighting this weekend. It's around about

2310
01:55:00,933 --> 01:55:05,373
Speaker 31: half past twelve Sunday morning, that fight on ESPN. He

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01:55:05,493 --> 01:55:08,573
Speaker 31: lost his first fight in the big event and he's

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01:55:08,613 --> 01:55:11,173
Speaker 31: gone on six on the bounce now, so he's got

2313
01:55:11,213 --> 01:55:13,253
Speaker 31: a big fight coming up, and Macau looking.

2314
01:55:13,093 --> 01:55:13,613
Speaker 13: Forward to that.

2315
01:55:13,893 --> 01:55:17,493
Speaker 3: See the favorite. Well, I haven't looked.

2316
01:55:17,293 --> 01:55:19,053
Speaker 31: At the numbers at the odds because if I do,

2317
01:55:19,133 --> 01:55:20,373
Speaker 31: I'll climb straight in, so it's.

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01:55:20,253 --> 01:55:21,093
Speaker 3: Very important I don't.

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01:55:21,413 --> 01:55:26,092
Speaker 31: It's he's the tenth ranked fighter taking on the eighth

2320
01:55:26,213 --> 01:55:29,093
Speaker 31: ranked fighter whose name just escapes me. A very professional.

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01:55:29,173 --> 01:55:32,932
Speaker 31: He is a Swiss fighter. But I think what we've

2322
01:55:32,973 --> 01:55:35,812
Speaker 31: got with Oldbergers, he's not fourt in a year. He

2323
01:55:35,893 --> 01:55:39,573
Speaker 31: had one fight twelve seconds. It's as long as it took,

2324
01:55:41,053 --> 01:55:43,933
Speaker 31: absolutely wasted men in field. It was quite extraordinary. But

2325
01:55:44,013 --> 01:55:46,213
Speaker 31: here's a guy on the up and arp and someone

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01:55:46,253 --> 01:55:49,653
Speaker 31: that I hate to say it, but he's a good

2327
01:55:49,733 --> 01:55:53,133
Speaker 31: fighter and he's a handsome bugger too, so they like him.

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01:55:53,173 --> 01:55:56,092
Speaker 31: And one last thing, yep, Formula one in Las Vegas

2329
01:55:56,613 --> 01:55:58,933
Speaker 31: and that is running right now practice and that is

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01:55:58,973 --> 01:56:02,133
Speaker 31: at seven o'clock on Sunday evening. Everyone's eyes are on

2331
01:56:02,373 --> 01:56:05,733
Speaker 31: Liam Lawson and what he can achieve over there an America.

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01:56:06,253 --> 01:56:10,253
Speaker 3: Oh good, enjoy that, Darcy w That is us for

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01:56:10,333 --> 01:56:11,493
Speaker 3: this week. Mat What a week.

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01:56:11,693 --> 01:56:15,453
Speaker 2: Yeah, fantastic week. Have a great weekend, Love you all,

2335
01:56:15,573 --> 01:56:17,293
Speaker 2: and hey, give them a taste of keywek.

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01:56:17,413 --> 01:56:19,133
Speaker 3: I'm so glad to be part of this program. You

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01:56:19,173 --> 01:56:21,693
Speaker 3: know makes joining this not yeah yeah now.

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01:56:21,653 --> 01:56:25,693
Speaker 2: Mate, yeah, an integral part of the table. I love you, Darcy.

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01:56:26,653 --> 01:56:33,132
Speaker 25: You're come weeg in, you know we again? How long reisodes?

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01:56:33,453 --> 01:56:37,613
Speaker 25: But think I've added up until the wee again? If

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01:56:37,653 --> 01:56:41,133
Speaker 25: on we again, if on the weekend.

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01:56:43,093 --> 01:56:44,773
Speaker 14: Eath and Tyler Adams.

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01:56:44,893 --> 01:56:47,012
Speaker 31: What trade your sent J Just use the code flack

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01:56:47,053 --> 01:56:47,573
Speaker 31: YAHD to give

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Speaker 1: Him for more from News Talks at b Listen live

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