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Speaker 1: Italy bound Joe mccanna, good morning to you, good money,

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Speaker 1: makee Now Elon Musk, he's involved now in the Albanian

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Speaker 1: migrant debate. How's that gone down?

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Speaker 2: Wow? This has provoked a massive outcry in Italy. Elon

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Speaker 2: Musk joined right wing leaders condemning Rome judges who have

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Speaker 2: tried to block a second batch of Meek migrants from

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Speaker 2: being detained in Albania, saying that these seven migrants, who

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Speaker 2: are citizens of Egypt and Bangladesh should be brought to Italy,

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Speaker 2: which they have been. Now now, Musk said on Twitter

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Speaker 2: today or X his I should say X. These judges

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Speaker 2: need to go. And that's just provoked an amazing backlash.

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Speaker 2: Particularly notable here is a strong statement from the Italian

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Speaker 2: President Sergio Martarella, who used very diplomatic language today to

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Speaker 2: say Elon Musk, but out of Italian politics. He said

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Speaker 2: Italy is a great democratic country and knows how to

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Speaker 2: take care of itself, and he doesn't expect this kind

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Speaker 2: of reaction from an ally.

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Speaker 3: There's going to be more where that came from.

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Speaker 1: It tell you what interested me at the moment, Joe

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Speaker 1: is that this whole French German thing because they're arguing

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Speaker 1: that with Ukraine the funding of you need a strong

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Speaker 1: Europe and France and Germany a basket cases. So Trump

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Speaker 1: rolls into town, starts dictating terms on money and aid

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Speaker 1: and all that sort of stuff, and they need a good,

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Speaker 1: strong leader in Europe who can match Trump, and they're

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Speaker 1: suggesting it's maloney, given she's of an ideological slant towards him.

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Speaker 1: Plus of course she seems to be successful unlike France

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Speaker 1: and German leaders.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's quite possible that she would step into that

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Speaker 2: vacuum because, as you said, Macrol and Schultz are looking

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Speaker 2: very weak at the moment, and she has a strong

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Speaker 2: relationship with Elon Musk, as we know, she has a

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Speaker 2: strong relationship with Donald Trump, and so it's going to

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Speaker 2: be very interesting to see how she exploits that situation

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Speaker 2: to try and carve out a different, more powerful role

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Speaker 2: for herself in Europe.

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Speaker 3: Exactly what's happening in Napoli, What's what's the mafia? Why

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Speaker 3: are they killing these kids?

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure if we talked about this before, Mike,

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Speaker 2: but we've seen an increase in the teenage mafia murders,

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Speaker 2: adolescents killing each other on the streets, some people call

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Speaker 2: them baby gangs. We've had three teenagers killed in the

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Speaker 2: last two weeks, including a nineteen year old who was

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Speaker 2: shot because he stepped on someone's designer trainers. So the

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Speaker 2: prosecutors are very concerned. They're actually calling for the army

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Speaker 2: to intervene. I don't know that that's really going to

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Speaker 2: solve the problem when you've got unemployment and what some

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Speaker 2: newspapers have called a wild West situation on the streets

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Speaker 2: of Naples.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: And then we come to the Vatican. So tell me

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Speaker 1: about the bloke who's designing the new mascot, and then

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you about my concern at the Vatican that

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Speaker 1: I'm noticed over the weekend.

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Speaker 3: So who's this bloke.

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Speaker 2: Well, as you know, we're gearing up for the Vatican

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Speaker 2: Jubilee celebrations in twenty twenty five. Simone Leno has been

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Speaker 2: asked to design mascot, a little doll like figure that

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Speaker 2: is going to be the mascot for this year. But

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Speaker 2: apparently he has a backstory and he's previously worked on

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Speaker 2: designs for sex toys. So that's a slight embarrassment for

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Speaker 2: the Vatican.

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Speaker 1: I would say, okay, fair enough to so Anyway, I'm

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Speaker 1: watching the Pope at the window right this last weekend, yep,

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Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, when are.

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Speaker 3: They painting it?

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Speaker 2: Padding the window?

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Speaker 1: I mean, have you seen it? Have you seen the shutters?

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Speaker 1: Have you seen the state of the building? Do they

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Speaker 1: not keep it? I mean, what I know about maintenance,

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Speaker 1: Joe is if you let it go, you've got nothing

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Speaker 1: but trouble.

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Speaker 3: Why why aren't they keeping it up?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 3: Why aren't they have a program of upkeep for the Vatican?

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Speaker 2: It is a symbol, isn't it. Well, they have spent

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Speaker 2: quite a bit on redoing parts of the of Saint

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Speaker 2: Peter's Square. They have re renovated recently the big altar

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Speaker 2: inside Saint Peter's Basilica. So maybe the funds have dried up.

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Speaker 2: But I'll check that out for you and come back to.

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Speaker 1: Her, please if you could, But have a look at

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Speaker 1: the pictures that the sh shutters and the windows are

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Speaker 1: just in dire, dire need of a.

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Speaker 3: Good sand and some painter.

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 1: Come back to me next week, will you ex McKenna.

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Speaker 1: She probably dreads coming on this program every week with

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Speaker 1: a random nut job she has to deal with, poor woman,

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Speaker 1: But have a look at it some time. By the way,

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Speaker 1: just before we leave Europe, Meta have announced for the

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Speaker 1: EU customer base that Facebook and Instagram subscription fees are

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Speaker 1: down by forty percent, So that to a degree does

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Speaker 1: indicate this is regulatory. By the way, they've been forced

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Speaker 1: into this, and it does indicate that I suppose you

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Speaker 1: can regulate these players, because of course we're busy in

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Speaker 1: this country trying to pass some sort of potentially legislation

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Speaker 1: to make them pay for news and stuff. Various parts

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Speaker 1: in the world at the moment are having the same

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Speaker 1: sort of problem. Somebody's sueing somebody. I'll come back to

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Speaker 1: it in the moment, but somebody. There's a lot of

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Speaker 1: angst legally speaking going on with the social media. But anyway,

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Speaker 1: they've debuted this ad free subscription service for the EU

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Speaker 1: due to an EU regulation and ten to clamp down

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Speaker 1: on anti competitive practices by tech companies after the regional

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Speaker 1: regulators find the company four hundred million dollars for violating

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Speaker 1: EU data privacy laws. So nine ninety nine euros is

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Speaker 1: down to five ninety nine for your desktop user, twelve

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Speaker 1: ninety nine drops to seven ninety nine for iOS and

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Speaker 1: Android users. The free option will also see unskippable ads

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Speaker 1: that are intended to quote provide value to advertisers, so

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Speaker 1: that's where that at. So they're getting a better deal

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Speaker 1: than we are.

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