1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: New insight also into our EV market and demand for 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: electric transport. These are figures from B and I Research. 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: Total decline in sales here will be two thirds. That's 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: nearly eleven thousand cars not sold. Auckland City Electric Vehicles 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: Director Greg Larson's with us on this Greg Morning. 6 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 2: To you, Mike, how are you very well? 7 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: Indeed, the EV market versus the general car market? Can 8 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 1: we differentiate at the moment between the two given the 9 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: economic circumstances or not? 10 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 2: Well? Not really. I think some of the statistics that 11 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 2: we're shown in that article really takes in EV's reduction 12 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: and ice cars reduction together. Really. 13 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: One thing that worries me, does it worry you? Is 14 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 1: too much reportage is lumping hybrids with bebs together. They're 15 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: not the same thing, and I'm not sure people understand 16 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: they're not the same thing. 17 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're quite right, So they aren't the same thing. 18 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: And the government have done their calculations on how to 19 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: put road user charges against those two vehicles, and I 20 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: think even they've admitted that they've got the caculation wrong. 21 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: No, is that going to change next year? In other words, 22 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: are people are going to sort of be up to 23 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 1: speed they'll get the rock story, they'll understand what's right, 24 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,919 Speaker 1: what's good for them, bad, whatever, and it'll sort itself 25 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: out in the end. 26 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: Well, I hope. So there'll be road user chases on 27 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: ice cars next year. That's what the indications are. But 28 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 2: I think the lack of education in the market is 29 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 2: probably what's really confused buyers at the moment. 30 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: Do you worry as an EV seller the international problem 31 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: at the moment, which is virtually every manufacturer going whoops, 32 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: let's pull back a little bit. In other words, it's 33 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: not quite the avalanche we thought it was going to be. 34 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really good question. I think you've had 35 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 2: somebody on You'll Show a few months ago from Ford 36 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: a key with It's working in marketing. I think now 37 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,559 Speaker 2: her thoughts were really valid. And the fact is every 38 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: manufacturer is going down the EV track. I just think 39 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: we're probably gone too fast. 40 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: Insane and well, and I will. 41 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 2: Definitely get there. Our manufacturers are hitting us in that direction. 42 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 2: We have no choice of really what vehicles we're going 43 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: to be supplied in three or four years time. 44 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: No, exactly. Greg Nice Insight appreciate it as always Greg Larsen, 45 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: who's the Auckland City Electric Vehicles Director. For more from 46 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,839 Speaker 1: the mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to news talks. It'd 47 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: be from six am weekdays, or follow the podcast on 48 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio