1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,733 Speaker 1: from news Talks at be. 3 00:00:12,813 --> 00:00:15,533 Speaker 2: Mike Gardley's our travel corresponding Good morning. 4 00:00:16,173 --> 00:00:18,773 Speaker 3: I am gripped by the green Eyed Monster, Jeck Tame. 5 00:00:20,453 --> 00:00:22,973 Speaker 2: It's so rich coming from you. I just feel like 6 00:00:23,053 --> 00:00:25,293 Speaker 2: you that we can never hear those words out of 7 00:00:25,333 --> 00:00:28,093 Speaker 2: Mike Gardley's voice. We I mean, he's You've spent the 8 00:00:28,173 --> 00:00:32,293 Speaker 2: last month telling us about your excursions in the Galapagus Islands. 9 00:00:34,613 --> 00:00:36,973 Speaker 3: This morning. I woke up this morning and I seem 10 00:00:37,093 --> 00:00:39,013 Speaker 3: very jealous that all those people have been to an 11 00:00:39,013 --> 00:00:42,693 Speaker 3: Oasis concert overnight. I am so endious that. And then 12 00:00:42,733 --> 00:00:44,453 Speaker 3: I hear you in Costa Rica. 13 00:00:44,613 --> 00:00:47,693 Speaker 2: Ah, I know, it's amazing. I'm very very lucky. I'm 14 00:00:47,893 --> 00:00:49,653 Speaker 2: only here for I think we're here for like six 15 00:00:49,733 --> 00:00:51,653 Speaker 2: days or a week or so, so we're not seeing 16 00:00:51,693 --> 00:00:53,813 Speaker 2: all of the country. And I'm this is the first 17 00:00:53,893 --> 00:00:57,533 Speaker 2: sort of dipping the toe into adventure with children, which 18 00:00:57,573 --> 00:00:59,213 Speaker 2: is a new stage of life for me, and so 19 00:00:59,253 --> 00:01:02,573 Speaker 2: I'm just kind of just trying to, you know, learn 20 00:01:02,653 --> 00:01:05,653 Speaker 2: the balance between the things that I might have once 21 00:01:05,733 --> 00:01:08,733 Speaker 2: done or the things that you know, might need to 22 00:01:08,773 --> 00:01:11,053 Speaker 2: be held off a little bit. How many things can 23 00:01:11,093 --> 00:01:13,933 Speaker 2: be crammed into a day, those sorts of things, you know, 24 00:01:15,213 --> 00:01:18,893 Speaker 2: you know, whether or not the the the flooded four 25 00:01:18,933 --> 00:01:21,813 Speaker 2: wheel drive tracks should be navigated today, or whether or 26 00:01:21,853 --> 00:01:24,373 Speaker 2: not we should just go for a go, go for 27 00:01:24,413 --> 00:01:27,133 Speaker 2: the Tarsil road instead, that kind of that kind of true. 28 00:01:27,773 --> 00:01:31,413 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's start, yeah. 29 00:01:30,893 --> 00:01:32,773 Speaker 2: And great to great to you know, to be in 30 00:01:32,813 --> 00:01:35,973 Speaker 2: a place where we can expose the kids to a 31 00:01:35,973 --> 00:01:38,813 Speaker 2: little bit of culture. So I'm very lucky, indeed, but 32 00:01:38,853 --> 00:01:41,053 Speaker 2: this morning I wish we'd had you last week. Actually, 33 00:01:41,093 --> 00:01:46,253 Speaker 2: you have some fantastic advice your favorite travel apps, and honestly, 34 00:01:46,413 --> 00:01:49,973 Speaker 2: with the advent of cell phone technology in the digital age, 35 00:01:50,173 --> 00:01:53,293 Speaker 2: traveling has arguably never been easier. So what is your 36 00:01:53,453 --> 00:01:54,933 Speaker 2: preference to Google Maps? 37 00:01:55,373 --> 00:01:58,253 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I do love Google Maps if I'm road tripping, 38 00:01:58,693 --> 00:02:01,773 Speaker 3: and obviously Google Maps has become a fixture in our lives. 39 00:02:01,813 --> 00:02:04,733 Speaker 3: But if you're overseas, say on foot or on a 40 00:02:04,813 --> 00:02:08,573 Speaker 3: bike or taking public track sport, I actually reckon City 41 00:02:08,653 --> 00:02:12,213 Speaker 3: Mepper is a better option. And the reason for that, 42 00:02:12,333 --> 00:02:15,413 Speaker 3: Jack is that just as very very steavy, the way 43 00:02:15,453 --> 00:02:18,773 Speaker 3: it optimizes your journey to give you the quickest route 44 00:02:18,773 --> 00:02:20,373 Speaker 3: from where you are and where you want to go, 45 00:02:21,293 --> 00:02:23,333 Speaker 3: and then they've got some other little funny features like 46 00:02:23,813 --> 00:02:27,213 Speaker 3: the walking and ciphering options will show you the calorie 47 00:02:27,253 --> 00:02:29,933 Speaker 3: burn and compare it to food and drink, you know, 48 00:02:30,013 --> 00:02:34,293 Speaker 3: like one and a half lavees or a cheeseburger. And 49 00:02:34,053 --> 00:02:37,973 Speaker 3: then it's also integrated with Uber, so if you go 50 00:02:38,013 --> 00:02:40,213 Speaker 3: on city Mepper and you need an Uber you can 51 00:02:40,213 --> 00:02:43,333 Speaker 3: actually book it from that app. And about four hundred 52 00:02:43,373 --> 00:02:44,733 Speaker 3: cities worldwide. 53 00:02:44,733 --> 00:02:48,373 Speaker 2: Right, okay, well that's interesting. Yeah. I am usually then 54 00:02:48,373 --> 00:02:50,973 Speaker 2: a Google Maps as well, but I have been using 55 00:02:51,093 --> 00:02:54,733 Speaker 2: ways okay wad which I think is they use that 56 00:02:54,853 --> 00:02:57,213 Speaker 2: and maybe in Brazil and a few other countries as well, 57 00:02:57,213 --> 00:02:57,773 Speaker 2: which is kind of. 58 00:02:57,853 --> 00:02:58,973 Speaker 3: Very South America. 59 00:02:59,053 --> 00:03:02,973 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but they people add was very South America 60 00:03:03,013 --> 00:03:05,653 Speaker 2: because that people add the hazards so other moment, so 61 00:03:05,813 --> 00:03:07,853 Speaker 2: when you drive along it says in one hundred and 62 00:03:07,853 --> 00:03:10,773 Speaker 2: fifty meters there will be a giant pothole. And I 63 00:03:10,813 --> 00:03:12,773 Speaker 2: mean in South America, every one hundred and fifty meters 64 00:03:12,813 --> 00:03:15,893 Speaker 2: as a giant pothole. But these are the biggest of 65 00:03:15,933 --> 00:03:18,053 Speaker 2: the big potholes. These are the Olympic sized swimming pool 66 00:03:18,053 --> 00:03:20,813 Speaker 2: hothole potholes, so that can be quite useful too. Are 67 00:03:20,813 --> 00:03:21,773 Speaker 2: you're a stand of Trippet. 68 00:03:22,493 --> 00:03:24,733 Speaker 3: I am. I'm a virgo, so I have a tragic 69 00:03:24,773 --> 00:03:28,493 Speaker 3: obsession trying to be several organized. So yeah, Trippet is 70 00:03:28,573 --> 00:03:30,933 Speaker 3: right up my street, deeck. So what you do is 71 00:03:31,573 --> 00:03:33,733 Speaker 3: you get the app, you load in your email address, 72 00:03:34,893 --> 00:03:37,333 Speaker 3: send it all of your reservations in your boxings, you know, 73 00:03:37,333 --> 00:03:40,533 Speaker 3: whether it's flights, car higher, hotels, tours, and Trippet just 74 00:03:40,853 --> 00:03:46,333 Speaker 3: automatically curates the lot into this beautifully organized itinery and 75 00:03:46,373 --> 00:03:48,413 Speaker 3: you can sync it with your calendar. You can send 76 00:03:48,453 --> 00:03:52,133 Speaker 3: the Trippet itinery to friends and family, really shareable. And 77 00:03:52,133 --> 00:03:54,773 Speaker 3: then there's also a paid premium version which I've actually 78 00:03:54,853 --> 00:03:57,973 Speaker 3: been checking out and it's very accurate. So it's got 79 00:03:58,013 --> 00:04:00,973 Speaker 3: all these live smart features. So if you've got like 80 00:04:01,013 --> 00:04:04,853 Speaker 3: a delay or disruption, you know, airport or whatever, you'll 81 00:04:04,853 --> 00:04:08,053 Speaker 3: get a notification. You'll get real time risk alerts. So 82 00:04:08,133 --> 00:04:10,933 Speaker 3: let's suppose you somewhere and there's a terror attack, boom, 83 00:04:10,973 --> 00:04:14,933 Speaker 3: it will tell you straight away, gate change information at 84 00:04:14,933 --> 00:04:17,013 Speaker 3: the airport, all that sort of stuff. It's like a 85 00:04:17,013 --> 00:04:17,853 Speaker 3: one stop shop. 86 00:04:18,733 --> 00:04:21,493 Speaker 2: That's so good. Oh yeah, I mean that's I didn't 87 00:04:21,493 --> 00:04:23,613 Speaker 2: even know that it existed. That sounds like a really 88 00:04:23,653 --> 00:04:27,013 Speaker 2: really useful little bit of technology. And what about for outdoorsy, 89 00:04:27,173 --> 00:04:31,093 Speaker 2: nature loving travelers, what ever would you recommend? What should 90 00:04:31,093 --> 00:04:31,693 Speaker 2: they download? 91 00:04:32,053 --> 00:04:34,893 Speaker 3: There are so many options, but let me super quickly 92 00:04:34,933 --> 00:04:38,293 Speaker 3: give you four. First of all, do not leave home 93 00:04:38,333 --> 00:04:43,053 Speaker 3: without downloading all trails producer Libby and I we are 94 00:04:43,133 --> 00:04:47,373 Speaker 3: raving fans. There's over a four hundred and fifty thousand 95 00:04:47,533 --> 00:04:51,373 Speaker 3: trails listed there at the moment, and it's regularly updated 96 00:04:51,413 --> 00:04:55,413 Speaker 3: by the apps. Global users lots of searchable tracks wherever 97 00:04:55,493 --> 00:04:58,453 Speaker 3: you happen to be or are heading to, and even 98 00:04:58,693 --> 00:05:02,653 Speaker 3: for like off the grid hikes, you can easily use 99 00:05:02,773 --> 00:05:06,133 Speaker 3: the downloadable maps and it will still be GPS tracking 100 00:05:06,173 --> 00:05:10,013 Speaker 3: the available on those as well. For Stargaze and Jack 101 00:05:10,573 --> 00:05:12,813 Speaker 3: iPhone users. A lot of iPhone users will have the 102 00:05:12,893 --> 00:05:17,253 Speaker 3: night Sky app. If you're on Android, downloads Delarium. I 103 00:05:17,613 --> 00:05:21,973 Speaker 3: love Stlarium, So with both apps you can pinpoint constellations 104 00:05:22,013 --> 00:05:25,173 Speaker 3: and planets overhead by simply pointing your phone into the sky. 105 00:05:26,013 --> 00:05:28,013 Speaker 3: And then there's all the other superical things like where 106 00:05:28,053 --> 00:05:30,373 Speaker 3: is the International Space Station at the moment? And when 107 00:05:30,453 --> 00:05:34,253 Speaker 3: is it going to fly above me? Also speaking of 108 00:05:34,293 --> 00:05:38,453 Speaker 3: big things, peak Lens I love peak lens. So this 109 00:05:38,613 --> 00:05:42,053 Speaker 3: app allows you just point your phone at any mountain 110 00:05:42,133 --> 00:05:45,013 Speaker 3: pretty much in the world and you will find out 111 00:05:45,013 --> 00:05:48,773 Speaker 3: what you were looking at. And similarly to your experiences 112 00:05:48,813 --> 00:05:52,693 Speaker 3: in Costa Eca, I must mention birding. When I was 113 00:05:52,693 --> 00:05:56,893 Speaker 3: an ecuador at Mishpi Lodge, I came across Merlin bird. 114 00:05:57,533 --> 00:06:01,653 Speaker 3: This is such a cool lapse. So this swiftly identifies 115 00:06:01,853 --> 00:06:05,373 Speaker 3: exactly what bird comes into view of your phone, and 116 00:06:05,373 --> 00:06:08,293 Speaker 3: then it's stacked all these fun facts. It gives you 117 00:06:08,413 --> 00:06:11,333 Speaker 3: bird call, so you can talk to the bird. And 118 00:06:11,413 --> 00:06:14,293 Speaker 3: it works worldwide, and it even worked on the house 119 00:06:14,293 --> 00:06:18,693 Speaker 3: sparrows outside in my backyard this morning. Great fun, quietly, addictive, 120 00:06:19,173 --> 00:06:22,373 Speaker 3: quietly yeah, yeah, very good. 121 00:06:22,493 --> 00:06:24,693 Speaker 2: So do you could you know the neighborhood bird counts 122 00:06:24,733 --> 00:06:25,533 Speaker 2: on at the moment right? 123 00:06:26,093 --> 00:06:28,013 Speaker 3: Yes, exactly. This would be great for that. 124 00:06:28,173 --> 00:06:30,333 Speaker 2: Yeah, this would be perfect for that. Okay, great, So 125 00:06:30,733 --> 00:06:33,133 Speaker 2: what about for food and drink? Any good advice? 126 00:06:33,653 --> 00:06:36,533 Speaker 3: Yeah? For food is I would say go with in 127 00:06:36,573 --> 00:06:40,373 Speaker 3: the know local knowledge every time, and a really good 128 00:06:40,453 --> 00:06:43,333 Speaker 3: app for that is yelp. You may have come across 129 00:06:43,413 --> 00:06:47,373 Speaker 3: yelp Jack. It's very popular in the States. In fact, 130 00:06:47,413 --> 00:06:50,493 Speaker 3: I've noticed Americans they will use Yelp, you know, sort 131 00:06:50,493 --> 00:06:54,013 Speaker 3: of like second nature when they're going out. So it's 132 00:06:54,013 --> 00:06:57,133 Speaker 3: actually available all around the world, but really good for 133 00:06:57,653 --> 00:07:01,013 Speaker 3: staking up the best eats and the destination you're going to. 134 00:07:01,373 --> 00:07:03,613 Speaker 3: You can bok reservations directly in the app. You can 135 00:07:03,693 --> 00:07:05,973 Speaker 3: order take away food on the app. So yeah, Yelp 136 00:07:06,053 --> 00:07:09,573 Speaker 3: is And if you're look a bit of a coffee snob, 137 00:07:09,693 --> 00:07:12,133 Speaker 3: oh my goodness, I've only recently come across this this 138 00:07:12,413 --> 00:07:18,053 Speaker 3: roasters app rstrs and your cup will run us over. 139 00:07:18,493 --> 00:07:21,493 Speaker 3: So it's got about seventeen thousand cafes and more than 140 00:07:21,493 --> 00:07:26,373 Speaker 3: one hundred countries and it's all focused on specialty artisan roasters. 141 00:07:26,413 --> 00:07:29,173 Speaker 3: There are a lot of on this app, which I 142 00:07:29,213 --> 00:07:32,013 Speaker 3: was impressed to see, but yeah, we'll come with like 143 00:07:32,173 --> 00:07:36,893 Speaker 3: tasting notes and recommendations and reviews. Rstrs really good. 144 00:07:37,133 --> 00:07:39,933 Speaker 2: Oh nice. So I know you like finding kind of 145 00:07:40,013 --> 00:07:43,733 Speaker 2: quirky sites and attractions on your travels. There anet for that. 146 00:07:44,013 --> 00:07:48,093 Speaker 3: There is I adore Atlas Obscurer. They have a website 147 00:07:48,093 --> 00:07:51,253 Speaker 3: as well. It's all free, but they are nothing beats 148 00:07:51,373 --> 00:07:57,773 Speaker 3: uncovering those offbeat, curious, less trafficked experiences, and Atlas Obscura 149 00:07:57,853 --> 00:08:01,493 Speaker 3: has become like my Holy Grail guide to hit in Gym, 150 00:08:01,693 --> 00:08:04,533 Speaker 3: so I checked this morning. I've currently got twenty thousand 151 00:08:04,613 --> 00:08:08,333 Speaker 3: unexpected sites and landmarks worldwide and may each come with 152 00:08:08,373 --> 00:08:11,493 Speaker 3: your own little curious story. So it's well worth a 153 00:08:11,573 --> 00:08:13,013 Speaker 3: dip Atlas Obscurer. 154 00:08:13,733 --> 00:08:16,253 Speaker 2: Nice and what would be the most kind of creative 155 00:08:16,373 --> 00:08:17,933 Speaker 2: new traveler that you've come across. 156 00:08:18,413 --> 00:08:21,173 Speaker 3: Well, I haven't tried this personally, but several of my 157 00:08:21,333 --> 00:08:26,893 Speaker 3: mates have been swearing by nanny Bag. So it's essentially 158 00:08:26,933 --> 00:08:29,613 Speaker 3: a problem solver as to where you can leave your luggage. 159 00:08:29,613 --> 00:08:32,573 Speaker 3: So let's suppose you're staying at an airbnb. You want 160 00:08:32,613 --> 00:08:34,573 Speaker 3: to spend all day in that destination, but you've got 161 00:08:34,613 --> 00:08:37,013 Speaker 3: to check out at ten, or perhaps you've got a 162 00:08:37,053 --> 00:08:39,133 Speaker 3: few hours to kill somewhere but don't want to clatter 163 00:08:39,213 --> 00:08:42,773 Speaker 3: your heavy suit case across cobblestones. This is where nanny 164 00:08:42,773 --> 00:08:45,813 Speaker 3: Bag enters the fray. So nanny Bag links you up 165 00:08:45,813 --> 00:08:51,733 Speaker 3: with like shopkeepers, hoteliers, businesses, train stations, anywhere that offers 166 00:08:51,813 --> 00:08:54,733 Speaker 3: safe storage space for your baggage. So it comes to 167 00:08:54,773 --> 00:08:58,053 Speaker 3: the location map, real time reviews, all the storage costs 168 00:08:58,093 --> 00:08:59,813 Speaker 3: are listed and it's worldwide. 169 00:09:00,093 --> 00:09:04,173 Speaker 2: Very cool, amazing, that's such a good idea, such a 170 00:09:04,213 --> 00:09:06,293 Speaker 2: simple idea, but it's such a good idea. Yeah, okay, 171 00:09:06,813 --> 00:09:09,493 Speaker 2: can I aid one more? Mike? Can I just say 172 00:09:09,533 --> 00:09:11,613 Speaker 2: this is a really simple one, and I promise I'm 173 00:09:11,613 --> 00:09:14,333 Speaker 2: not being paid to say this, but I use Wise? 174 00:09:14,813 --> 00:09:15,813 Speaker 2: Do you use Wise? 175 00:09:16,093 --> 00:09:17,733 Speaker 3: Yes? I've come across Wise. Yes. 176 00:09:17,853 --> 00:09:20,893 Speaker 2: So it's basically it's like a it's kind of like 177 00:09:20,933 --> 00:09:23,693 Speaker 2: a like a debit card that you can use overseas. 178 00:09:24,013 --> 00:09:27,973 Speaker 2: But they have much much more competitive rates for exchange 179 00:09:28,053 --> 00:09:29,973 Speaker 2: rates than banks, So you kind of pay a small 180 00:09:29,973 --> 00:09:32,133 Speaker 2: one off fee for each of exchange that you do, 181 00:09:32,373 --> 00:09:34,173 Speaker 2: and you get the real time exchange rates. So if 182 00:09:34,213 --> 00:09:36,533 Speaker 2: you google an exchange rate between countries, you get that 183 00:09:36,613 --> 00:09:38,813 Speaker 2: as opposed to getting the bank one. And then you 184 00:09:38,853 --> 00:09:41,333 Speaker 2: can set up on the app you can set up 185 00:09:41,373 --> 00:09:44,773 Speaker 2: automatic transfers. So, for example, if the New Zealand dollar 186 00:09:44,893 --> 00:09:47,253 Speaker 2: was really weak as it has been against the against 187 00:09:47,293 --> 00:09:50,573 Speaker 2: the green back, you can wait until you can say, right, 188 00:09:50,693 --> 00:09:55,293 Speaker 2: if the US dollar hits sixty six cents at any time, 189 00:09:55,613 --> 00:09:57,933 Speaker 2: then I want you to transfer the two hundred dollars 190 00:09:57,933 --> 00:10:00,373 Speaker 2: I've got on here into US dollars immediately. So you 191 00:10:00,413 --> 00:10:02,613 Speaker 2: can set up kind of a threshold where the automatic 192 00:10:02,653 --> 00:10:05,573 Speaker 2: transfers happen, so I use that and I also like 193 00:10:05,613 --> 00:10:07,813 Speaker 2: having it because when you travel, I don't want to 194 00:10:07,853 --> 00:10:10,093 Speaker 2: have my kind of credit card on me all the 195 00:10:10,133 --> 00:10:12,653 Speaker 2: time because I feel like if I had it taken 196 00:10:12,693 --> 00:10:14,773 Speaker 2: off me or was stolen or I lost it or something, 197 00:10:15,053 --> 00:10:17,453 Speaker 2: then you know, potentially on the hook for a lot 198 00:10:17,453 --> 00:10:19,493 Speaker 2: more money than and you can kind of you know, 199 00:10:19,533 --> 00:10:22,133 Speaker 2: be by having a pre loaded debit card and the 200 00:10:22,173 --> 00:10:24,293 Speaker 2: app wise that goes along with it. You can kind 201 00:10:24,333 --> 00:10:26,253 Speaker 2: of stay on stay on top of things that way 202 00:10:26,253 --> 00:10:27,893 Speaker 2: as well. My we tip. 203 00:10:28,093 --> 00:10:30,533 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good recommendation. I know a number of 204 00:10:30,573 --> 00:10:32,813 Speaker 3: people have been using it recently and yeah they reckon. 205 00:10:32,853 --> 00:10:35,373 Speaker 3: It's been very very trusty. Yeah, it's so. 206 00:10:35,573 --> 00:10:38,093 Speaker 2: I mean it's it's just a visa it's you know, 207 00:10:38,173 --> 00:10:40,533 Speaker 2: it's basically because you can get a physical visa card 208 00:10:40,573 --> 00:10:42,373 Speaker 2: with it as well and the app so you can 209 00:10:42,453 --> 00:10:44,333 Speaker 2: use both, which I just find it. I find it 210 00:10:44,373 --> 00:10:46,813 Speaker 2: super reliable and like so for this trip, because we 211 00:10:46,813 --> 00:10:49,653 Speaker 2: were going to Canada and Costa Rica, I could exchange 212 00:10:49,653 --> 00:10:52,373 Speaker 2: some money into Canadian dollars and exchange some money into 213 00:10:52,413 --> 00:10:56,093 Speaker 2: the the golon is which are used here in Costa Rica, 214 00:10:56,213 --> 00:10:58,293 Speaker 2: and then also have some US dollars on there as well, 215 00:10:58,293 --> 00:11:01,093 Speaker 2: so you can have multiple currencies. So yes, why is 216 00:11:01,093 --> 00:11:03,973 Speaker 2: the name of that which is my rec foundation? Very good? 217 00:11:04,013 --> 00:11:05,573 Speaker 2: All right, I thank you so much for that, really 218 00:11:05,613 --> 00:11:08,453 Speaker 2: appreciate it. We're gonna make sure that Mike's top apps 219 00:11:08,973 --> 00:11:11,573 Speaker 2: for heading out in your next adventure are up on 220 00:11:11,653 --> 00:11:13,693 Speaker 2: the News Talk's EDB website so you can make sure 221 00:11:13,693 --> 00:11:15,693 Speaker 2: they are downloaded before you depart. 222 00:11:16,533 --> 00:11:19,653 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 223 00:11:19,733 --> 00:11:22,893 Speaker 1: to News Talks EDB from nine am Saturday, or follow 224 00:11:22,933 --> 00:11:24,533 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.