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Speaker 1: New Zealand's home for trusted news and views.

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Speaker 2: Heather duplicy Ellen on the mic asking breakfast with Bailey's

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Speaker 2: real estate all together better across residential, commercial and rural

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Speaker 2: news togs head, bod.

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Speaker 3: Morning and welcome to the show. It's OCR day today.

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Speaker 3: They're probably not going to cut. They should cut though,

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Speaker 3: ASP's nicked toughly on that we are the last country

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Speaker 3: in the developed world apparently to get an AI strategy,

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Speaker 3: but we have one. Now We're going to speak to

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Speaker 3: the minister, Shane Ritti or the actual point of a

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Speaker 3: strategy is Auckland Councilor Shane Henderson on why the Mobrays

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Speaker 3: pulled out of that free stadium and the plan to

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Speaker 3: bring back the more for realist time politics Wednesday as.

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Speaker 1: Well after eight Heather duplic Len.

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Speaker 3: Okay, here's a prediction for you that TV and Z

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Speaker 3: review and tobias is not going to change anything, because

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Speaker 3: there is bias and we know it and we have

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Speaker 3: many examples. But a case in point recently, TV and

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Speaker 3: Z from what I can see, has not touched the

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Speaker 3: fact that the Marti Party co leader are Yt called

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Speaker 3: the leader of Burkina Faso, who banned homosexuality in this country.

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Speaker 3: His quote modern day hero Evan hasn't touched the story.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: I've heard that somebody at TV and Z told act

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Speaker 3: it's not a story. I can't verify that, but the

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Speaker 3: fact that they haven't touched it suggests that they don't

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Speaker 3: see it as a story. Now, compare that to the

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Speaker 3: meal that TV and Z had on Winston peters comments

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Speaker 3: comparing Labour's COVID policies to Nazi German ideology. They went

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Speaker 3: mental on it. Both stories have exactly the same kind

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Speaker 3: of vibe. Both are minor party leaders who say something

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Speaker 3: that offends people about a foreign bad guy, but only

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Speaker 3: one of them gets pummeled Winston Peters, that's bias. Now,

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Speaker 3: how does a review fix something like that? Even if

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Speaker 3: the review does find bias, and I don't reckon it will,

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Speaker 3: by the way, because when you pay for a review,

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Speaker 3: you get out of a review exactly what you want.

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Speaker 3: But even if it does find bias, what are the bosses? Then?

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Speaker 3: Do do they instruct the junior reporters to make sure

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Speaker 3: they do stories on every outrageous thing that an MPCE

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Speaker 3: is not some just all of it, or do they

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Speaker 3: go the opposite way and say we're not going to

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Speaker 3: cover any outrageous things that an MP says. How do

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Speaker 3: you determine what is outrageous enough to cover or not

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Speaker 3: to cover? And if you do one outrageous comment story

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Speaker 3: featuring an MP from the left, do you then have

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Speaker 3: to for balance and for making sure there's no bias,

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Speaker 3: do a story featuring an MP from the right. What

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Speaker 3: is outrageous enough to be covered in those circumstances, So

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Speaker 3: you can see where this goes, right. Frankly, I don't

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Speaker 3: think a review can change bias. Bias in a newsroom

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Speaker 3: as big as TVNZ is so entrenched it would take

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Speaker 3: years to change.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: Personally, I'm of the view actually that the only way

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Speaker 3: around this is to own your bias. Every single one

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Speaker 3: of us has a bias. I have a bias, You

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Speaker 3: have a bias. Every reporter at TVNZ will have a bias.

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Speaker 3: Having a bias is not a bad thing. Pretending you

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Speaker 3: don't is the problem. So just admits it. Let people

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Speaker 3: factor it in when they listen to what you're saying,

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Speaker 3: and maybe the trust that tv and Z wants to

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Speaker 3: lift will follow.

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Speaker 1: News of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 3: Mccron is in the UK, he's made a speech at

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Speaker 3: Westminster basically about how amazing the UK and France are together.

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Speaker 5: Let's be sure that we will meet again four years

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Speaker 5: and decade, because we'll by our geography, by our busts.

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Speaker 3: Over in the US, it's Cabinet meeting day for Trump

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Speaker 3: and he was asked about Pete Hegseth's job safety after

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Speaker 3: claims he's on the chopping blog in the chaos in

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Speaker 3: the Defense department.

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Speaker 6: Peached one fantastically that mission was a work of art.

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Speaker 6: And I have spoken to some of our perceived I

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Speaker 6: don't know of their enemies, but they're perceived as being

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Speaker 6: potential enemies, and they essentially said the same thing. Very impressive.

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Speaker 3: And if Pambondi thought that the Epstein Furroori would die

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Speaker 3: down in a day, she's dead wrong. The latest talking

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Speaker 3: point is the mysterious missing minute in the eleven hour

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Speaker 3: prison video.

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Speaker 1: They redo that video.

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Speaker 7: It's all from like nineteen ninety nine, so every night

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Speaker 7: the video is reset and every night should have the

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Speaker 7: same minute missing.

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Speaker 1: So we're looking for that video.

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Speaker 7: To release that as well, showing that a minute is

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Speaker 7: missing every night.

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Speaker 3: Now, the Post Office scandal inquiry is rolling on. It's

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Speaker 3: becoming clear the settlements will be complicated and also massive.

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Speaker 8: There were three hundred and forteens which had been submitted

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Speaker 8: between May twenty twenty and the twenty seventh of November

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Speaker 8: twenty twenty, but it's still not been settled.

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Speaker 3: This woman is the oldest surviving victim of the scandal.

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Speaker 1: For twenty cent years when they kicked it.

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Speaker 8: So we've to survive on benefit rates of living.

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Speaker 3: The Women's Euros tournament in football is underway and England

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Speaker 3: kick off their campaign tomorrow, so q the it's coming

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Speaker 3: home messages.

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Speaker 9: We have players that can create something out of nothing,

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Speaker 9: so I think making sure that everyone's in a good

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Speaker 9: headspace going into that game tomorrow is important and that's

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Speaker 9: what we've been doing as a team.

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Speaker 3: Now. Finally, if you are eating breakfast, I'm going to

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Speaker 3: apologize to you for this, but a group of scientists

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Speaker 3: have come up with the law of urination. The research

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Speaker 3: was done at the Georgia Institute of Technology as to

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Speaker 3: how long we should be weiing. It found out that

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Speaker 3: any mammal over three kgs that's you, by the way,

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Speaker 3: should take about twenty one seconds to completely empty your bladder. Now,

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Speaker 3: if you consistently go for a year A mum, I

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Speaker 3: don't know. You're you have to get back to the desk.

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Speaker 3: You're under pressure, and you just whip that way out

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Speaker 3: real fast. Go for shorter than twenty one seconds or

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Speaker 3: promise that is absolutely the end of that chat for

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Speaker 3: the morning. That is news of the world for ninety seconds. No,

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Speaker 3: we're not going to go there anyway. Listen, someone's impersonating

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Speaker 3: Marco Rubio. They don't know who the fraudster is, but

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Speaker 3: somebody is using AI to impersonate the US Secretary of State.

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Speaker 3: They've sent fake voice messages, they've sent texts, and the

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Speaker 3: voice messages mimic Rubio's voice, and the texts mimic his

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Speaker 3: writing style. And this whoever this is, has contacted three

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Speaker 3: foreign ministers pretending to be Marco Rubio. Also contacted a

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Speaker 3: US governor and a member of Congress, and is trying

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Speaker 3: to gain access to information or accounts of powerful government officials.

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Speaker 3: Now the trouble with I mean this kind get used

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Speaker 3: to it. This kind of thing is going to happen

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Speaker 3: more and more. And the trouble, all of course, is

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Speaker 3: the second impersonation like this to hit the White House,

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Speaker 3: because last time it was the Chief of Staff Susie Wiles.

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Speaker 3: Six thirteen.

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Speaker 3: You will be aware by now if you've been listening

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Speaker 3: to the news the government's made some changes around family

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Speaker 3: trusts making it easier to sell houses and so on.

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Speaker 3: So we'll get you across that, and we're going to

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Speaker 3: speak to actually family Trusts New Zealand after half past

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Speaker 3: Right now, it's sixteen past six. Andrew callener JMI Wealth.

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Speaker 10: Is with me. Morning Andrew Pery, Good morning Heather.

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Speaker 3: Right, it's the big day o CR day. What are

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Speaker 3: you reckon's happening?

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Speaker 10: Well, you're excited irb in zday official cash rate, So

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Speaker 10: club sandwiches are getting put together down on the terrace

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Speaker 10: and a little lad so today we will know. So

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Speaker 10: you have to admit though that the excitement is somewhat

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Speaker 10: dulled by the fact that we actually expect nothing to happen.

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Speaker 11: So not exactly a cliffhanger.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, so Reserve Bank's staying on hold with the cash

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Speaker 10: right three in a course, that's very much the consensus call,

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Speaker 10: but you never know, we get surprises. We got one

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Speaker 10: But so what are the key drivers I suppose behind

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Speaker 10: I think you've got to acknowledge we're sort of moving

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Speaker 10: point on monetary policy normalization. It was only a year

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Speaker 10: So we've had two one hundred and twenty five basis

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Speaker 11: In New Zealand. You know, we're all well aware of this. Now,

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Speaker 11: it takes.

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Speaker 10: Time for that to flow through to householders pockets because

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Speaker 10: we have so many mortgage.

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Speaker 11: Holds on fixed rates.

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Speaker 10: So we're in that lag and we're now in that

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Speaker 10: sweet spot where those fixed strate loans are being repriced,

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Speaker 10: and you could vargue there's only so much more than

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Speaker 10: here that one thing that's often lost in this discussion

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Speaker 10: you know, investors, people who do term deposits and there's

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Speaker 10: been some research done recently. It's just this is actually

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Speaker 10: minutes ago. Remember that the CPI is the sole mandate

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Speaker 10: for the arbans that they don't have a growth target.

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Speaker 10: You know, they're not with their CPI is the only

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Speaker 11: They've got to do.

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Speaker 10: But look, I think they should problem shift the rate

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Speaker 10: second quarter we've gone into a bit of a hole

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Speaker 10: and that, Yeah, the only thing that lurks in the

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Speaker 10: back of my mind whether that ends at QSB at

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Speaker 10: the quarter of his survey of business opinion suggested that

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Speaker 10: there was just very little pricing or cost pressure in

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Speaker 10: that second quarter, plenty of spare capacity.

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Speaker 11: I probably think on the day.

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Speaker 10: That that's not enough to sway them away from those

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Speaker 10: other points.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, obviously this is day two of cash changes in Australasia.

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Speaker 3: What did you make of them yesterday?

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Speaker 10: Well, they gave us a little bit of a wake

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Speaker 10: up called and they were the central bank watchers. They

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Speaker 10: left rates unchanged and yesterday I said that consensus calls

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Speaker 10: didn't they look so it was a surprise. But there

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Speaker 10: were some commentators that were pigning it. So good on them,

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Speaker 10: but it was a split decision six to three, so

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Speaker 10: certainly not a consensus call. Governor Bullock did make some

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Speaker 11: I think key things she said there.

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Speaker 3: Now you're talking Jen, this is absolutely anybody who tries

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Speaker 3: Well, you will have seen yesterday that the Mowbrays have

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Speaker 3: The anti money and laundering announcements continue from the government.

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Speaker 3: This time they're loosening the rules around purchasing a home

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Speaker 3: Zealand Family Trust Services and with us. Hello Janet, our

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Speaker 3: So it's basically up to agents to make an assessment

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Speaker 3: And Janet, thank you for talking us sort appreciate it.

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Speaker 6: Are you still talking about Jeffrey in Epsin? This guy's

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Speaker 3: And Pam Bondi, who has spent months hyping everybody up

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Speaker 7: In February, I did an interview on Fox and it's

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Speaker 3: Good Morning here, the re Western Springs. Look at the

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Speaker 3: results of the submissions from Auckland. Is fourteen nine percent

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Speaker 14: Peace of mind for New Zealand business in the US.

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Speaker 3: Men I correspondent Richard Arnold.

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Speaker 11: Morning Richard, Morning Heather.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so what's the latest up update on these Texas floods.

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Speaker 12: Well, it's one hundred and eight people now known to

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Speaker 12: have died. To the scale of this disaster growing hurting,

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Speaker 12: as you know, many young children. Hundreds of volunteers have

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Speaker 12: joined and scouring the massive debris along the Guadalupe River.

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Speaker 12: Those searches are slow, they're dirty, it's distressing work. Obviously,

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Speaker 12: they're finding a lot of remains. Some of these volunteers

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Speaker 12: are locals. They know people who have lost their lives

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Speaker 12: in this Five children from the girls retreat site, Camp

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Speaker 12: Mystic still listed of missing, along with one councilor. But

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Speaker 12: the sheriff, Larry leitha, we don't know everybody who was here,

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Speaker 12: so we don't know everybody who's missing. Will they ever

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Speaker 12: know there were people camping independently?

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Speaker 11: Of course.

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Speaker 12: Scott Ruskin was one of the first rescuers in the

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Speaker 12: flood zone. He got his rescue swimmer credentials with the

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Speaker 12: Coastguard just two months ago, and he helped a fairy

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Speaker 12: one hundred and sixty nine people, mostly these very young

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Speaker 12: children ages seven, eight nine so on to safety. At

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Speaker 12: one point he was seen carrying two young girls, one

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Speaker 12: under each arm.

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Speaker 15: Yeah it was one in each arm, but yeah, it

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Speaker 15: was just two little kids like seven years old, didn't

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Speaker 15: have shoes on.

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Speaker 16: I was like, dude, I'm not going to make you

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Speaker 16: guys walk through like while you're trying to.

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Speaker 11: Get to a helicopter.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, he's down playing the big hero. Roles says others

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Speaker 12: would have done it if they had been there.

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Speaker 17: Well, he was there.

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Speaker 12: Meantime, there are incredible survival stories. One fellow says he

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Speaker 12: swam to a power box when his place flooded right

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Speaker 12: up to the rooftops and he stood on this scene

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Speaker 12: for three hours before he was able to get out.

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Speaker 12: While the wound we spoke of on Monday, who was

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Speaker 12: swept for thirty kilometers along that surging river, remains in hospital,

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Speaker 12: bruises all over her body, and she's been told that

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Speaker 12: five members of her family have died. Texas Lieutenant Governor

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Speaker 12: Dan Patrick says it might have helped if there were

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Speaker 12: warning sirens along the river in this place called flash

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Speaker 12: Flood Alley. There was a move to install a better

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Speaker 12: warning system a little while back, but it would have

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Speaker 12: cost fifty thousand dollars and it was voted down.

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Speaker 3: Now, what's going on in California? Things getting even more

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Speaker 3: hairy with these ice raids.

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Speaker 12: They really are. California is slamming the latest deportation moves

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Speaker 12: by the Trump team. National Guards troops along with heavily

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Speaker 12: armed US Marines operating on American soil right accompanied by

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Speaker 12: armored tanks, swept down onto one of Los Angeles's parks,

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Speaker 12: MacArthur Park, leading LA Mayor Karen Bass to slam this race.

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Speaker 18: Is outrageous and Unamerican that we have federal armed vehicles

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Speaker 18: in our parks when nothing is going on who were

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Speaker 18: in the park today were children. It was their.

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Speaker 12: Summer champ, so tanks swooping in on kids. The mayor

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Speaker 12: accuse as the President's team of trying to terrorize La residents.

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Speaker 12: Los Angeles has one of the country's biggest immigrant workforces, obviously,

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Speaker 12: in for decades they've been recruiting many of those workers.

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Speaker 12: Also in recent days, a twenty three year old woman,

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Speaker 12: Carlie Elvarado, was tackled and taken into custody while meeting

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Speaker 12: her husband, who has no criminal record.

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Speaker 19: But you're from Mexico, right, And I'm like, no, I'm

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Speaker 19: from here, And like I was born here here?

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Speaker 20: Where's here?

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Speaker 19: Where are you talking about? Where exactly is here? I'm

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Speaker 19: like here, the US Los Angeles. They put us in chains.

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Speaker 19: So I had a change from my hand and under

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Speaker 19: my belly that went all the way to my leg.

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Speaker 12: She was nine months pregnant. She was raced off to

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Speaker 12: hospital where she started having contractions. Her daughter was born

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Speaker 12: soon after, while her husband was taken off to a

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Speaker 12: detention site in Texas. Somewhere, another woman, Andrea Valez, was

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Speaker 12: walking to work when she was physically taken down by

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Speaker 12: a masked man. She was accused of interfering with the

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Speaker 12: ICE agent, says her lawyer, of what happened.

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Speaker 15: Ronald Doll, two hundred pound, six foot man in full armor,

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Speaker 15: weapons with his space shielded start charging at you. And

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Speaker 15: that's what she experienced. Now ask yourself who committed the Psaltier.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, figures just out say that sixty nine percent of

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Speaker 12: recent immigration arrests are of people with absolutely no criminal record.

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Speaker 3: Richard, thanks man, appreciate it. We'll talk to you again soon.

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Speaker 3: That's Richard Arnold, US correspondent. Listen, Israel's plans for Gaza

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Speaker 3: have taken a funny, little bit of a twist. When

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Speaker 3: I say funny, to regret the use of that word immediately,

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Speaker 3: because there's nothing funny about it. But it's just what

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Speaker 3: I mean is it's bizarre. The Defense Minister of Israel

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Speaker 3: has now gone public with his plan, and his plan

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Speaker 3: is to move everyone in Gaza into a camp in

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Speaker 3: the south of the Strip and basically put the people

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Speaker 3: I mean, and he's talking about originally six hundred thousand people,

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Speaker 3: put up to two point one million people on the

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Speaker 3: ruins of the city of Ratha, build a camp there,

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Speaker 3: put them there, and how it would work as you

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Speaker 3: would screen them on the way in to make sure

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Speaker 3: that they're not related to himas or doing any or

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Speaker 3: hummus itself. Once you get them in there, though, they're

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Speaker 3: not allowed to leave because now they've been declared safe.

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Speaker 3: And the thought is that once he does this, and

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Speaker 3: by the way, he says he is going to do this,

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Speaker 3: because he's already told the IDEF to start preparing a

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Speaker 3: plan for it, once he does this and he's got

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Speaker 3: them in the camp, he starts deporting them. Now, if

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Speaker 3: he does that, if he starts deporting people out of Gaza,

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Speaker 3: that's a breach of international humanitarian law and it is

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Speaker 3: considered tantamount to ethnic cleansing. But what's weird about this

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Speaker 3: is that more and more this is being openly discussed.

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Speaker 3: Isn't it that Israel plans to completely remove all The

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Speaker 3: thought is that has Rob plans to completely remove the

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Speaker 3: Palestinians from Gaza. When you had John Bolton, if you

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Speaker 3: were listening to the show yesterday, he basically said that

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Speaker 3: on the show yesterday, said that is the only solution.

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Speaker 3: Netan Yahoo said as much in the White House with

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Speaker 3: Trump yesterday. Trump has suggested it with his Gaza Riviera

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Speaker 3: AI video weird stuff. It's sounding less and less at

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Speaker 1: Heather Do for Cellen, Morning Heather.

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Speaker 3: I'm not at all cynical, but is there any connection

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Speaker 3: the Mobrays now having received their helicopter pad license and

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Speaker 3: the cancelation of their Western Springs proposal? Graham, fair question.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people will be asking that question. Why

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Speaker 3: don't we ask Shane Henderson when he's with us shortly?

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Speaker 3: It's five away from seven, all.

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Speaker 1: The ins and the outs.

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Speaker 2: to the next level.

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Speaker 3: So construction costs throws for Q two this year, but

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Speaker 3: it's not all bad news. According to the Cotality Cordeal

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Speaker 3: Construction Cost Index, residential construction costs rows zero point six

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Speaker 3: percent per Q two. Now, that's up from a zero

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Speaker 3: point three percent increase in Q one. However, if you

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Speaker 3: look at it as an overall picture. Then things are

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Speaker 3: better because the average for cost growth is one percent

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Speaker 3: per CAUSU, so we're actually coming well under that. Annual

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Speaker 3: construction cost growth has reached two point seven percent, which

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Speaker 3: is the fastest pace since Q three of twenty twenty three. However,

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Speaker 3: let's look at the averages again. The long term average

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Speaker 3: of annual construction cost growth is four point two percent,

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Speaker 3: so again we're significantly down on the average. It's also

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Speaker 3: hugely down on the ten point four percent that we

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Speaker 3: saw in late twenty twenty two during the COVID era,

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Speaker 3: and it's actually reduced workloads that has caused cost growth

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Speaker 3: to slow back. In May twenty twenty two, there were

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Speaker 3: fifty one thousand concents for new dwellings. That's now sitting

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Speaker 3: at around thirty four thousand, which means less in wages

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Speaker 3: considering there's less work and pure materials being used, so

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Speaker 3: the prices for materials are currently relatively steady.

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Speaker 6: There you go.

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Speaker 3: Not everything is as bad as it seems at the outset. AI.

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Speaker 3: Now I am becoming I'll be honest with you. Wasn't

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Speaker 3: a fan at the start, couldn't see the couldn't see

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Speaker 3: the value of AI. But I'm huge fast becoming a

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Speaker 3: huge fan. Happy to see the government has just released

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Speaker 3: its AI strategy and basically that's nothing, which makes me

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Speaker 3: very happy. There's no new laws, no new rules. We're

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Speaker 3: just adopting the OECD AI principles. What this is basically

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Speaker 3: is assigned to business as private businesses get on with

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Speaker 3: it because I think people are hanging back.

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Speaker 20: Do it.

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Speaker 3: We're doing the key. We think we're hang back and

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Speaker 3: we go so it's okay, hold on and the government

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Speaker 3: tell me this is okay, And this is the government

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Speaker 3: telling you it's okay, So do the AI. We're going

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Speaker 3: to talk to Shane thet about it very shortly. He's

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Speaker 3: the one putting out the AI strategy. But first up,

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Speaker 3: of course, o CR day today. No one's expecting a cut,

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Speaker 3: but everybody thinks we should have a cut. So let's

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Speaker 3: talk to ASP about what's going on here. He's talk ZBS.

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Speaker 2: Time flies, that don't mean twice The Breakfast Show, Kiwi's

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Speaker 2: Trust to stay in the Know. Heather Dup see Ellen

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Speaker 2: on the mic asking Breakfast with the land Rover, Discovery,

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Speaker 3: B good morning, oh c our decision out from Reserve

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Speaker 3: Bank today, the consensus from most pundits is that it's

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Speaker 3: going to be left unchanged at three point twenty five percent.

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Speaker 3: Nick Toughly is asb's chief economist and.

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Speaker 21: Is with us morning, Nick, good morning here reasonably.

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Speaker 3: Complex decision actually today, is there a chance we get surprised?

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Speaker 21: A lock? Is every chance you get surprised. In Australia,

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Speaker 21: yesterday everybody was convinced the Reserve Bank they would cut

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Speaker 21: and it remained on hold. So look, you never say never.

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Speaker 3: But you peck what staying where it is.

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Speaker 21: We are picking that the Reserve Bank remain on hold

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Speaker 21: of this meeting. We still think they will cut further,

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Speaker 21: but that they'll wait until August. Because you've just got

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Speaker 21: so much more information, even hopefully thing has crossed a

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Speaker 21: bit more detail around what sort of trade impacts are

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Speaker 21: likely to wash through the world as well.

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Speaker 3: Do you think I mean, sit aside the fact that

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Speaker 3: they're most likely going to hold, do you think they

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Speaker 3: should actually hold today?

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Speaker 21: As I was in the governor's hot seat, I'd still

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Speaker 21: be cut cutting interest rates. But we are getting really

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Speaker 21: near the end and it is a tough decision. So

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Speaker 21: I think for them waiting is prudent they're getting a

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Speaker 21: lot more data around inflation and inflation expectations, so how

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Speaker 21: our behavior gets influenced by inflation is something that's key

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Speaker 21: for them. And you do get that big run of

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Speaker 21: all the trade deadlines hopefully fingers crossed having been dealt with,

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Speaker 21: and a lot more clarity around what tariffs people face.

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Speaker 21: So in that environment, it's understandable that they will want

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Speaker 21: to wait. There's a lot more information you get over

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Speaker 21: the next six weeks.

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Speaker 3: Okay, why would you cut if they're not going to cut?

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Speaker 21: Well, if I'm probably a little bit a little bit

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Speaker 21: on the dubh side. Look, I think we're looking at

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Speaker 21: an economy weird. Look, it is very slow getting going,

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Speaker 21: and we do think the economy will keep picking up,

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Speaker 21: but the impact of interest rates is taking quite some

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Speaker 21: time to come through, and the housing market is evident

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Speaker 21: of that. But we are reality is we're going to

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Speaker 21: be facing inflation bouncing around between two and three percent

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Speaker 21: over the next year or so. It's not exactly low,

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Speaker 21: and that's really why the Reserve Bank in when they

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Speaker 21: are in the hot seat and have to make the decisions,

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Speaker 21: why they are a little bit wary at the moment.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So I see that the guys at A and

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Speaker 3: Z are calling two point five percent. That's where were

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Speaker 3: bottom out early next year around about februy.

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Speaker 7: What about you?

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Speaker 3: What do you think?

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Speaker 21: We think three percent? So it's really one more cut.

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Speaker 21: But reality is you could conceivably end up anywhere between

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Speaker 21: where we are now three and a quarter and two

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Speaker 21: and a half. It really depends on how those risks

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Speaker 21: around trade go and how much of an issue the

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Speaker 21: sort of spark in inflation that we're seeing this year

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Speaker 21: will actually be. So we do think their scope for

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Speaker 21: further cuts, but we're getting near the end of the

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Speaker 21: reserve banks run of cutting rates from what was a

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Speaker 21: pretty high level.

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Speaker 3: Good stuff. Nick, good to talk to you. Thank you,

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Speaker 3: Nick Tuffley. ASBTIF economist seventy ten kell Do for c

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Speaker 3: Allen government has launched New Zealand's first AI strategy. We're

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Speaker 3: the last country in the developed world to do this.

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Speaker 3: It's going to be like to touch use existing laws

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Speaker 3: and existing rules rather than introducing new ones. Doctor Shane

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Speaker 3: that he sees them in a su of science, innovation

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Speaker 3: and technology and with us high shame. Good morning, Heather,

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Speaker 3: Am I right in thinking this is basically a signal

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Speaker 3: from you guys to private business, don't wait for the

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Speaker 3: new laws before you use it. They're not coming, go

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Speaker 3: for it.

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Speaker 22: It is definitely a signal out into the environment, both

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Speaker 22: to community and to business as to what the policy

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Speaker 22: settings our government will follow. And that certainty is why

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Speaker 22: other countries have developed their national AI strategies and when

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Speaker 22: it was time for us to send that signal as well.

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Speaker 3: Correct do you think that private businesses have been hanging

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Speaker 3: back and holding off on the investment waiting for the

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Speaker 3: signal from you.

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Speaker 22: There is a sense that they wanted to know where

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Speaker 22: the government was going to be. Were were going to

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Speaker 22: be heavy handed regulatory or were we going to be

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Speaker 22: light touch? And we've now decided that we'll be light touch.

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Speaker 22: As as you described, there is reasonable adoption of AI

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Speaker 22: at the moment amongst these on businesses, but we believe

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Speaker 22: it will improve with a clear direction from government.

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Speaker 3: Why have you gone for light touch.

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Speaker 22: Because we have the regulatory settings at the moment that

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Speaker 22: will more than added with me cope for our AI

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Speaker 22: needs both across consumer Protections, Privacy Act, Human Rights Act

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Speaker 22: and you're underlying OECD principles which we're anchoring the strategy on.

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Speaker 22: So we don't see a need heavy handed in this space.

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Speaker 3: Oh now, I see that you guys are predicting that

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Speaker 3: it would add about seventy six billion dollars to the

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Speaker 3: economy in the last next law of thirteen fourteen years.

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Speaker 3: How so, like, practically, what does it do to add

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Speaker 3: that much value?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 22: Sure, so this is a productivity gain. So modeling last

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Speaker 22: year across nineteen thousand tasks and four hundred occupations suggested

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Speaker 22: that the generesis AI may free up an hour per

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Speaker 22: day of working time, that an hour can be better

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Speaker 22: spent on other high value tasks. And so that's fundamentally

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Speaker 22: where that productivity figure comes from.

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Speaker 3: Brilliant. So I've Shane, good to talk to you. Thanks mate, Shane.

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Speaker 3: That we see mister of science, innovation and technology together

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Speaker 3: do for c ellen am Is it just on the

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Speaker 3: ocr A and Z actually think that we are understating,

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Speaker 3: we're we are underestimating the possibility that there may be

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Speaker 3: a cut. There's a greater chance that there may be

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Speaker 3: a cut today than we think. This is what they say.

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Speaker 3: They say the decision is far from simple. We think

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Speaker 3: the market is very much underestimating the chance of a cut.

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Speaker 3: Next week. Market's priced it in at last count at

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Speaker 3: about twenty percent of a cut. A and z reckons

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Speaker 3: the chance of a cut today is actually forty percent plus.

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Speaker 3: They still they still given it's you know, under fifty.

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Speaker 3: They still think it's a greater likelihood that the Reserve

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Speaker 3: Bank holds, but more of a chance than we think. So,

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Speaker 3: you know, fingers crossed. If you're hoping for a cut,

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Speaker 3: you might you might just just there's a greater chance,

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Speaker 3: isn't It just might go your way. By the way,

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Speaker 3: this is news sound. It's just being reported that if

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Speaker 3: you travel through the US, you're not going to have

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Speaker 3: to take shoes off at the airport anymore. Travelers no

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Speaker 3: longer have to remove their shoes to get through the

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Speaker 3: regular line at TSA security checkpoints at airports. Now obviously

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Speaker 3: that's not our airports, at the US airports, but a

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Speaker 3: good idea catches on right, and given the US is

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Speaker 3: often the one that we follow the lead of. If

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Speaker 3: they're not taking the shoes off, then hopefully you're not

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Speaker 3: going to have to take your boots off at Auckland

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Speaker 3: Airport because how much of a fath.

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Speaker 23: Is that, or at Wellington Airport because although when I

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Speaker 23: traveled down to Wellington on the weekend and I was

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Speaker 23: wearing my Converse high tops, it raised no eyebrows at

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Speaker 23: Auckland Airport security. However, coming back Wellington said above the ankle,

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Speaker 23: you know all that stuff that you can stuff into

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Speaker 23: the Converse.

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Speaker 3: Yep, absolutely huge, huge security risk the Converse high tops

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Speaker 3: and what a faf as well, lacing that whole thing

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Speaker 3: up all the way back to the top. Also on

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Speaker 3: that more good news on the airport front. Over in

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Speaker 3: the EU, they are starting to go a bit lighter

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Speaker 3: on the liquids because that's a fath as well, isn't

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Speaker 3: it having to dig through your bag because you've forgot

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Speaker 3: half a bottle of water that you bought at the

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Speaker 3: gas station on the way into the airport. Edinburgh Airport

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Speaker 3: has now lifted the rule you do not have to

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Speaker 3: worry about having just one hundred miles or less. You

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Speaker 3: can carry up to two liters of a liquid through

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Speaker 3: security and you do not need to take it away

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Speaker 3: from the bags. Edinburgh Airport is the first one in

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Speaker 3: Scotland to do it. Birmingham Airport has also done it

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Speaker 3: in the UK and as I said, because it's go

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Speaker 3: they've got fancy scanners now. But as I say, good

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Speaker 3: ideas catch on. So fingers crossed seven fourteen the.

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Speaker 3: Hey, do you remember that report that we got from

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Speaker 3: the Ministerial Advisory on Organized Crime and it said we're

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Speaker 3: all getting corrupt and it's terrible because it's insider and

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Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff. They've got another report out.

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Speaker 3: This time they were recommending we get the community involved

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Speaker 3: and we'll be able to crack down. And we're going

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Speaker 3: to talk to them after half past right now at

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Speaker 3: seventeen past seven. Now, the Mowbrays have pulled the plug

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Speaker 3: on building Auckland, that new stadium at Western Springs. It's

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Speaker 3: Ana Moobray, her husband Ali Williams, and of course the

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Speaker 3: American billionaire Bill Foley that offered to spend about two

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Speaker 3: to three hundred million building the stadium. Wouldn't have cost

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Speaker 3: rate payers a cent. Now the office being pulled. Shane

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Speaker 3: Henderson is chair of the Stadium Venues Working Group and

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Speaker 3: with us. Hey, Shane, callighand warning what happened?

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Speaker 16: Well, I mean, so they've pulled out and they've put

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Speaker 16: out a statement saying there were unique challenges and extended

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Speaker 16: timelines and complexities. I'd liked a bit more detail on that,

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Speaker 16: and that's probably for them to extend upon, because from

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Speaker 16: my perspective it seemed like a standardy OI process.

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Speaker 3: Was Well, maybe that's the problem. Was nobody talking to them?

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Speaker 3: You were you guys not in regular communication with them.

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Speaker 16: Well, it certainly seems that they were being talked to

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Speaker 16: through council, and in fact Tartuki has recommended it as

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Speaker 16: a preferred option for the site. So it seemed like

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Speaker 16: from our perspective, it was something that we were interested

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Speaker 16: in exploring, something the public consultation.

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Speaker 3: Well, now, Shane, Okay, so yesterday when I heard this news,

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Speaker 3: I immediately started calling people to find out what happened.

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Speaker 3: Did you not do the same thing?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I've been putting out the word myself and haven't

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Speaker 16: received anything more than what told out in the media.

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Speaker 3: So the people who were talking to Anna and Ali

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Speaker 3: and Bill, the people in the council who were talking

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Speaker 3: to them the whole way through the process, they couldn't

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Speaker 3: tell you what had gone wrong.

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Speaker 1: No, Well that all I.

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Speaker 16: Heard was what had been put in the media exactly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they had they not called ali in them and

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Speaker 3: been like whoa, what happened?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I'm not too sure about this content to those conversations.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, haven't we just come to the actual problem here,

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Speaker 3: which is we have got people who are prepared to

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Speaker 3: spend two to three hundred million dollars in Auckland City

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Speaker 3: for free right, and when they pulled the pin, nobody

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Speaker 3: in councils like, oh geez, stop that from happening. In fact,

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Speaker 3: nobody's been talking to them by the sounds of things

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Speaker 3: in the lead up to know that there's a problem.

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Speaker 3: Isn't that the problem?

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Speaker 16: Well, it's certainly a frustrating situation, isn't it? Goodness me?

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Speaker 16: It sounds like a very attractive proposition. But at the

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Speaker 16: same time, the public didn't think so they didn't put

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Speaker 16: it as their preferred option in the feedback.

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Speaker 3: Is it not your preferred option?

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Speaker 16: Well, they're falled out, so that will be a question

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Speaker 16: that has lost in the mist of time.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, Shane, I can't tell you how frustrating I'm

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Speaker 3: finding you right now? Are you not even like, like,

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Speaker 3: on a scale of one to ten, about eleven bummed

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Speaker 3: out that we've lost a free stadium?

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Speaker 16: Bummed out? But yeah, honestly, I was not sure how

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Speaker 16: the conversation is going to go West Council is that

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Speaker 16: July meeting, because the feedback results were quite clear that

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Speaker 16: there was no clear favorites. Okay, how that conversation was

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Speaker 16: going to go? We didn't.

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Speaker 3: I So do you think that maybe they then pulled

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Speaker 3: out because they could see that you people were not

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Speaker 3: going to go with it?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, well, I can't sort of speculate too much on

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Speaker 16: the detail behind why they've pulled out.

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Speaker 24: Goodness me.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, it's but it's certainly frustrating. It's frustrating for everyone

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Speaker 16: and autant and frustrating for us as well.

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Speaker 3: Okay, right, okay, Shane, thank you. Shane Henderson, Chair of

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Speaker 3: the Stadium Venues Working Group. Mind Blown Mind currently blown

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Speaker 3: three hundred million dollars for free and with god goodness me,

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Speaker 3: isn't that water? Bummer said me. Yeah, just you know, well,

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Speaker 1: Either due for ce Allen, whether I'm amazed.

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Speaker 3: That anyone's available at the Reserve Bank to do the

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00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,919
Speaker 3: OCR announcement today, they may well all be on wellness leave. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we'll see who turns up. Seven twenty four. Now, let

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Speaker 3: me tell you what Chris Hopkins is busy doing to

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Speaker 3: the COVID inquiry. As if this isn't obvious, right, let

905
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Speaker 3: me tell you When he says that the COVID inquiry

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Speaker 3: is providing a platform for those who have conspiracy theorist views,

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Speaker 3: he is trying to undermine it. And he's doing that

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Speaker 3: so it doesn't matter what the outcome of the inquiry is.

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Speaker 3: People have already written it off as a nutjob investigation

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Speaker 3: because I suspect Chippy already knows that he's not going

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Speaker 3: to come out of this flash. Neither is Jacinda, Neither

912
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Speaker 3: is Ashley, neither is Grant. Because we already know what

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Speaker 3: went wrong. We can see that the lockdowns went too long,

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Speaker 3: We know that the border was done badly, we know

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Speaker 3: how much money was printed. To name just a couple

916
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Speaker 3: of things, just a few things that they did wrong.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of rich of Chris Hipkins to complain that

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Speaker 3: the terms of reference have been deliberately constructed to achieve

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Speaker 3: a certain outcome, because that's coming from the guy whose

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Speaker 3: government did exactly the same with the original COVID inquiry.

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Speaker 3: They set up such a limited set of terms of

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Speaker 3: references that we had to set up a second inquiry

923
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Speaker 3: after they lost the election, just to get to the

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Speaker 3: stuff that we actually care about, which is the mandates

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Speaker 3: in the Auckland lockdown and so on. They set up

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Speaker 3: an inquiry deliberately designed their words to only learn lessons,

927
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Speaker 3: not assigned blame when actually blame, or you can call

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Speaker 3: it just taking responsibility is exactly what a lot of

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Speaker 3: us affected by all of the stuff would like to see.

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Speaker 3: But what really bothers me about what Chris Hippins is

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Speaker 3: doing is the continual demonizing of conspiracy theorists. Now, look,

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Speaker 3: I don't love a conspiracy theorists. They're a bit nutty.

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Speaker 3: I've had to sit through, you know, lectures about the

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Speaker 3: world order hours on end, trying to be polite and

935
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Speaker 3: pretending that you care because you love the person. Right.

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Speaker 3: A lot of these people went down the rabbit hole

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Speaker 3: because labor forced the jab on them, so they went

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Speaker 3: not to do their own research, and they came bick

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Speaker 3: a bit strange. They shouldn't be excluded. They may be

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Speaker 3: conspiracy theorists, but they're still our friends and our brothers

941
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Speaker 3: and our uncles, even if they're a bit slightly different.

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Speaker 3: At the moment, right, they were as affected also, conspiracy

943
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Speaker 3: theorists or not. They were as affected by these decisions

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Speaker 3: as everyone else. Therefore they get a say too, and whatever,

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Speaker 3: by the way happened to they are us or does

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Speaker 3: that only apply when it suits labor together?

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Speaker 1: Duper cy ellens.

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Speaker 3: Shane is what is so wrong with every council. They

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Speaker 3: do not give a toss about public feedback on the

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Speaker 3: majority of things. They implement the hide behind it when

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Speaker 3: it suits them. Goodness me, Heather, three hundred million gone?

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Speaker 3: Goodness me? Heither exceptional interview is Shane Henderson delivery of

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Speaker 3: questions on point Heather. I suspect that the mobras pulled

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Speaker 3: out because the council are idiots. Heather is New Zealand

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Speaker 3: and more specifically Aukland, not o'plm for business. Listen, I'll

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Speaker 3: tell you what. I'm so frustrated. I don't know if

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Speaker 3: it was ever really gonna happen. Do you know, I

958
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Speaker 3: don't really know. I mean, maybe maybe it was just

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Speaker 3: so they could butter us up for a allepad, but

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Speaker 3: maybe it was also because nobody at Auckland Council was

961
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Speaker 3: talking to them. These people do not tick around, right.

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Speaker 3: These are people who are serious business people. Bill Foley

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Speaker 3: and a Mobrae. Allie's the trophy wife. He knows that.

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Speaker 3: But you know, they are serious business of people. They

965
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Speaker 3: expect phone calls, they expect you to it to keep

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Speaker 3: them informed. They expect you to be interested in the

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Speaker 3: fact that you're spending three hundred million dollars. But anyway,

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Speaker 3: there it is no no, no point crying of it

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Speaker 3: spilt note. Hopefully though, we can learn from this and

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Speaker 3: not do it again. We've got to talk about AI.

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Speaker 3: I'm getting a lot of technic people. Why are you

972
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Speaker 3: not on board of the AI. I'm sessed with the AI.

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Speaker 3: Talk about that in some stage. Uses next.

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Speaker 3: The why is it in the public interest to know

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Speaker 3: the embarrassing, drunken responses of a government minister called out

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Speaker 3: a year ago. It sounds like unnecessary hounding to me,

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Speaker 3: in a waste of news gathering efforts. We will come

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Speaker 3: to that. Actually, it is worth talking about that. By

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Speaker 3: the way, do you remember when Trevor Remember when Trevor

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Speaker 3: Mallard made that joke about reviving the the more years

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Speaker 3: and years ago, and everybody gave him so much grief

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Speaker 3: and had to laugh at his expense. They are actually

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Speaker 3: trying to do it. So we're going to talk to

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Speaker 3: somebody about that and about the chances of it and

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Speaker 3: within the next ten years, the chances of it actually happening.

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Speaker 3: Before eight o'clock right now, it's twenty two away from

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Speaker 3: a got another report out into the organized crime from

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Speaker 3: the Advisory Group. The last report warned that corruption is

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Speaker 3: getting worse because officials are being recruited by the organized crime.

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Speaker 3: The report. The report this time reckons that we can

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Speaker 3: perhaps tackle this by getting our communities involved. Steve Simon

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Speaker 3: is the chair of Ministerial Advisory Group for Organized Crime

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Speaker 3: and with us.

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Speaker 1: Now, Hi, Steve, good morning.

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Speaker 20: How do you get that.

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Speaker 3: I'm well thank you. How do we get the communities involved.

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Speaker 24: There's a number of ways that The first point is

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Speaker 24: to treat the community as part of the solution. A

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Speaker 24: big part of that is getting them involved by giving

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Speaker 24: them some natural information they can they can use. Our

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Speaker 24: committee thinks it's a really good idea to let the public,

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Speaker 24: particularly local communities, know what the real problems for organized

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Speaker 24: crime are for them, and ways that can identify that

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Speaker 24: organized crime and report that to the authorities and work

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Speaker 24: as a community to try and support those who are

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Speaker 24: trying to break free from bank customers of organized crime?

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Speaker 3: Steve, do you think people don't understand? I mean, you

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Speaker 3: see a couple of guys walking down the street. It's

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Speaker 3: I don't know, three in the morning. They've got hoodies on.

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Speaker 3: You know that looks dodgy. So you know what dodgy

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Speaker 3: looks like. You know how to report it. You've got

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Speaker 3: yet one, well one, you've got your five II five

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Speaker 3: or whatever. What else do people actually need to know?

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Speaker 24: Yeah, that's a good point for something like that. Yes,

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Speaker 24: you would know as clear as the light of day.

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Speaker 17: That's a problem.

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Speaker 24: But when you go to buy a fruit from a

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Speaker 24: fruit store at a market and you see there's a

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Speaker 24: number of vulnerable, potentially migrant workers there. If you become

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Speaker 24: aware through conversations that perhaps those people are not in

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Speaker 24: a legitimate employment opportunity. It's those signs that that might

1026
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Speaker 24: be some micro exploitations going on. It's your grandmother reporting

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Speaker 24: that she got the strange text messages asking her to

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Speaker 24: send money or put in her Wishpang bank account, that

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Speaker 24: she might be subject to fraud, and it's about how

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Speaker 24: you might help her with being resilient there. So it's

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Speaker 24: opening our minds and thinking organized crime is not just

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Speaker 24: guys where are patches driving around on motorbikes. It's about

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Speaker 24: organized crime reaching in as a business and infecting our communities.

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Speaker 3: So how do you get people to kind of move away,

1035
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 3: because the immediate reaction is that's just introducing a culture

1036
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Speaker 3: of knacking. How do you get people to kind of

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Speaker 3: move beyond that.

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Speaker 24: I think we need to change our attitude. Organized crime

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Speaker 24: is in our country.

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Speaker 25: As we said out in our master report, organized crime

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Speaker 25: is affecting us in a large number of ways. And

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Speaker 25: the thing that we have in New Zealand, you know

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Speaker 25: we've done lots of research lots of the country is

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Speaker 25: around the world we've met with and talked with people

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Speaker 25: in the UK Astraining the other places that are similar

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Speaker 25: to us, they also have a really bad organized crime problem.

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Speaker 24: And it's worse there. The difference that we have as

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Speaker 24: a community when you talk to our agencies, when you

1049
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Speaker 24: talk to our private businesses, when you talk to our

1050
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Speaker 24: community groups, keep this give us stuff. We really want

1051
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Speaker 24: to do something about getting rid of organized crime. And

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Speaker 24: so if we can change our attitude to saying it's

1053
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Speaker 24: not okay to have that here, it's not okay to

1054
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Speaker 24: have that business going on, run our families and run

1055
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Speaker 24: our friends, we want to get rid of it. Then

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Speaker 24: if we take that approach, really it's not so much

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Speaker 24: a n marketing thing. It's more saying you're not welcome here.

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Speaker 24: It's an intolerancecome in our country. Intolerance.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fair enough, Steve Listen, thanks very much, really appreciated,

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Speaker 3: and I hope we can turn this thing around. That

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Speaker 3: Steve Simon, the chair of the Ministerial Advisory Group for

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Speaker 3: Organized Crime. Right, let's deal with Kitty Ellen next. And also,

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Speaker 3: by the way, politics Wednesday is going to be with

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Speaker 3: us after eight o'clock. It's nineteen away from it.

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Speaker 3: Right, It's cool to two. So the details on Kitty Allen.

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Speaker 3: So we've got the details of what happened on the

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Speaker 3: night that Kitty Allen was arrested for the suspected drink driving.

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Speaker 3: Now what's come out in particular is what the police

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Speaker 3: call an additional a sheet of additional summary information. And

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Speaker 3: what it says is when they found her after you

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Speaker 3: remember what happened, crashed the car Evans Bayish in Wellington,

1074
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Speaker 3: had been on the ras, left the crash scene on foot,

1075
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Speaker 3: tracked her down, having walked all the way around Point

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Speaker 3: journing them all the way to Oriental Parade, blah blah. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: when they found her, they wanted to do obviously an

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Speaker 3: alcohol breath test. Quote she did not blow through the

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Speaker 3: mouthpiece on her first attempt, So old mate, Kitty Allen

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Speaker 3: did the thing that the old can you blow into

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Speaker 3: the mouthpiece, blow just like past the mouthpiece, do you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean? Just the old come in into

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Speaker 3: the mouthpiece, but going past it, or maybe the alternative

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Speaker 3: is potentially she did what I've been told other people do,

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00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 3: which is the sucking in cop. Listen, mate, cops can

1086
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 3: see the difference. You're the drunk one, not them, So

1087
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 3: if you're trying to suck in when they're asking you

1088
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 3: to blow they know anyway. Then they take her through

1089
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 3: to the cop shop. A police officer noted that during

1090
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 3: the drive, Miss Allen said words to the effect that

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00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 3: she wrote the law and wanted to know if the

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00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 3: police officer bothered reading the law or had learnt the law.

1093
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 3: So one of those ones, the old I know, I've

1094
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 3: done my research, I know who are you? Even then

1095
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 3: she gets really fun when they actually get her into

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00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 3: the station. When Miss Allen was served the court summons,

1097
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 3: she became argumentative and yelled at police officers. She demanded

1098
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 3: to speak to senior police officers and Police National Headquarters

1099
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 3: and said that she would not leave the police station

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00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 3: until the court summons disappeared. Miss Allen told police officers

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00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 3: that they were making undercutting moves and that the charging

1102
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 3: decision was a political stunt, and she refused to accept

1103
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 3: the court sumon's document served to her real good on

1104
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 3: the booze. Sounds like fun anyway, So somebody asked the

1105
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 3: question earlier, why do we care about this? Months after

1106
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 3: the fact, she's no longer important. Are we just wasting

1107
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 3: our time? I'll be honest with you, that's probably a

1108
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 3: fair argument to make. However, I think it is interesting

1109
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 3: and I think it is enlightening to know how people

1110
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 3: in elected positions are behaving when they are in public.

1111
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 3: And the fact that this comes out is more it's

1112
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 3: less about punishing her for what has happened and more

1113
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 3: a warning to future elected MPs and current elected MPs

1114
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:33,879
Speaker 3: that if you're going to go into a cop shop

1115
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 3: and start threatening the poor sod who's pulled you over,

1116
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 3: he's just a bloke in a uniform, right, you're giving

1117
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 3: him grief and you're you're doing the whole I'm a

1118
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 3: minister of the crown. You've got to treat me differently.

1119
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 3: It's got to be a warning to people in those

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00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 3: positions that the truth will come out and we will

1121
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 3: eventually find out how much of a clown you were

1122
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 3: when you were when you were arrested by the police.

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00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,320
Speaker 3: So it's more of that, and I think if you

1124
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 3: ever argue against transparency, you're on the losing side, right,

1125
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 3: this information should be public as defaut Plus, it's also

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00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 3: just juicy, isn't it. Thirteen away from eight.

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00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 2: Heather duper c Allen on the Mike Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 2: the land Rover Discovery News Talks.

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Speaker 1: Tad Bhither.

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Speaker 3: It's taken this long, Recarry Allen, because the police delayed

1131
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 3: releasing the information, which is a fair point as well, Right,

1132
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 3: you can't you can't reward delays of information by then

1133
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,280
Speaker 3: deciding it's not worthy. Otherwise everybody's just going to delay

1134
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 3: information so it never hits the news. Nine away from eight. Oh,

1135
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 3: by the way, politics winsday. Politicians Jinny and Mark are

1136
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 3: in with us after eight. Now do you remember when

1137
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 3: Trevor mallad made that joke years ago right about about

1138
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 3: bringing them all back to life and we gave them

1139
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 3: a grief, really hard time for it. They're actually trying

1140
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 3: to do it and it's got the financial support of

1141
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 3: Sir Peter Jackson. Paul Schofield. Doctor Paul Scofield is the

1142
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 3: senior curator of Natural History Canterbury Museum and is with

1143
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:44,959
Speaker 3: us morning.

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00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 20: Paul.

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00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 3: Now, these guys, this American company, reckon that they can

1146
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 3: do it in ten years. Are they dreaming?

1147
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 16: No, not at all.

1148
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 26: I mean they're well on the way, to be honest.

1149
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 26: They've got an incredible technology, huge group of staff, and

1150
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 26: they've got the backing of of Nakas, who is a

1151
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 26: NATO research center here in Canterbury.

1152
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 3: How would it work? I mean, would what what?

1153
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 2: What?

1154
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 3: What would we end up with? Would it be an

1155
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 3: actual more or would be a modern take on the More?

1156
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,720
Speaker 26: It'll be a modern take on the more, but it'll

1157
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:21,399
Speaker 26: be it'll be a mother, because Noli say it's a mother.

1158
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 26: Where we will take the DNA of these extinct birds

1159
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 26: that we get from places like swamps and caves, and

1160
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 26: by sequencing hundreds of genomes, we will determine exactly what

1161
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 26: makes them more a more, all the genes which actually

1162
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 26: fundamentally define that giant bird with its bizarre plumage and

1163
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 26: its complete lack of a wing, and we will engineer

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00:54:55,160 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 26: that into the cells of an emu or potentially even

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00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 26: a tinemum, which is as close as relative of South

1166
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 26: American birth, and we'll bring back something that we will

1167
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 26: believe is as close to a morow as possible.

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00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 3: So will it look like a moro? Will it look

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00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 3: like an emo?

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Speaker 26: No, It'll look exactly like a molla.

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Speaker 20: Oh wow.

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Speaker 26: And you know it'll be ancessary process. It'll take that

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00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 26: the first our first take on it will be in

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00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 26: ten years time or so. But as we discover more

1175
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 26: and more about their genome, we'll we'll get closer and

1176
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 26: closer to the real thing.

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00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 3: And then what's the end goal. At some stage decades

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00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 3: from now, you have enough of actual bore to be

1179
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,800
Speaker 3: able to leave them to themselves and they breed and

1180
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Speaker 3: carry on.

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Speaker 17: Yeah.

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Speaker 26: Well, in the first instance, it's an amazing eco tourism

1183
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 26: opportunity for my ho to actually have a large preserve

1184
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 26: somewhere in the northern part of the South Island probably

1185
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 26: where for paid tourism we can actually have people come

1186
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 26: in and actually see moa booming the hills. And it's

1187
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 26: also an amazing opportunity for ecology and for science to

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00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 26: actually have the opportunity to see how these giant.

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Speaker 16: Birds actually affected the e college of New Zealand.

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Speaker 26: When we go out into the forest today, it's really

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00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 26: only a fact similar of what the forest was like

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00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 26: eight hundred years ago when first Moldy arrived.

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Speaker 16: Because in fact, these birds.

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00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 26: Are giant ecosystem engineers. They're actually fundamentally changing the way

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00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,800
Speaker 26: that the forest is actually structured, and that we have

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00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 26: some inkling into how they actually did that and what

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00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 26: effects that they actually had. Actually having the real thing

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00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 26: out there in the forest will be actually incredibly informative

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Speaker 26: to our understanding of mu zeum and conservation and ecology.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that'scinating stuff. Hey, Paul, thank you so much talking

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00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 3: us through a doctor. Paul Scofield, Senior Curator of Natural

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Speaker 3: History at Canterbury Museum.

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Speaker 1: Heather dup is the al we're.

1204
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 3: Talking, I think yesterday about whether we should have minimum sentences. Right,

1205
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 3: I might have a case for you that shows why

1206
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 3: we need to have minimum sentences for judges. So this

1207
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 3: is the case of the thirteen Mongrel mob members and

1208
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 3: cars who swarmed around a rival gang vehicle at a

1209
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 3: rout a roundabout in broad daylight and then attacked them

1210
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 3: and then also attacked the vehicle of an innocent couple.

1211
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 3: So this happened March eight last year. The Mungrel mob

1212
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 3: surrounded this other car with their vehicles. They started attacking

1213
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 3: these guys. They brought weapons, They threw punches at the

1214
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 3: other gang members. They threw some glass bottles at rivals heads.

1215
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 3: One of the gang moles and the other mole I'm assuming,

1216
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 3: I'm assuming she's a gang mole. She's hanging out with

1217
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 3: the other gang, so you know, she gets she gets

1218
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 3: clocked in the head bow one of the mongral mob.

1219
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 3: They steal money in phones, and elderly couple gets caught

1220
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 3: up on this because they come into the roundabout because

1221
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 3: it's just a roundabout, and then their car gets smashed

1222
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 3: by the rival gang member who are trying to get

1223
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 3: out of it by reversing, and the whole thing is

1224
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 3: just a completely fuffle anyway, so the cops charge. So

1225
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 3: remember this, thirteen of them, only three of them get

1226
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 3: charged by the cops who already got a problem there

1227
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 3: right anyway, three of them get charged. They're not going

1228
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 3: to go to jail because they've convinced the judge that

1229
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 3: they've ditched their lives of drugs and violence. So what

1230
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 3: they've been charged with is a joint charge of aggravated robbery. Now,

1231
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 3: the maximum sentence that you can hand down in a

1232
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 3: charge of aggravated robbery is fourteen years plus. One of

1233
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 3: them has also admitted growing some weed and possession for

1234
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 3: supply of cannabis and possession of ammunition, and because the

1235
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 3: cops went his house and checked about afterwards, so he's

1236
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,919
Speaker 3: not just throwing the punches. He's also got the side

1237
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 3: hustle of the grass going on. Anyway, the Crown prosecutor

1238
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 3: tries very hard to get the judge in the Road

1239
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 3: of Vegas to go hard. He highlights their aggravating features,

1240
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 3: brazen incident of gang related violence and broad daylight on

1241
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 3: a main road, and throu one of the guys is

1242
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 3: still loyal to the mongrel mob, an other one's breached

1243
00:58:56,640 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 3: is electronically monitored bail twice. The Weed in particular should

1244
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 3: go to jail because he's admitted foiling, which is when

1245
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 3: you put the you know, tinfoil around the ankle bracelet

1246
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 3: to be able to muck around with it. But the

1247
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 3: defendants lawyers, they seem to convince the judge. They say

1248
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 3: the electronic breaches and nothing, just wanted to go to

1249
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 3: the gym a couple of minutes early. One of them

1250
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 3: is down twelve freehab courses. He attends with honor and genuineness,

1251
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 3: and sending just one of them to jail is mean spirited.

1252
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 3: So the judge takes pity on them, gave them get

1253
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 3: this right. Maximum sentence fourteen years home d five months,

1254
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 3: six months eight months. Do we need minimum sentences or

1255
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 3: not talk next to Jenny and Mark about that news

1256
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 3: storks there.

1257
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 4: Be can only ad a cadies not to celebrate.

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Speaker 1: Un the news and the newsmakers and the duper Cy Ellen.

1259
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:02,959
Speaker 2: On the Mic Hosking Breakfast with Vida, Retirement Communities, Life

1260
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 2: Your Way News, tog said, be happened to bring the last.

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01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 3: I actually am sorry that Mike Hosking is not here

1262
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 3: right now for this, because I feel like he would.

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01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 3: I feel like he would love this. This as bad

1264
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 3: as I used to be By Chris Chris Stapleton. But

1265
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 3: why I think you'd be super excited is because this

1266
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 3: is off F one, the album, and you know how

1267
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 3: much the man loves F one, Right, any any excuse

1268
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 3: to talk about the cars? You could talk about the

1269
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 3: cars for hours on the on the strength of this.

1270
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 3: It's a soundtrack. When was the last time you actually

1271
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 3: maybe the Barbie Barbie movie? Right, was the last time

1272
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 3: we actually discussed the soundtrack? But got a soundtrack? Got

1273
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 3: everything you need on it. It's got badge of California,

1274
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 3: It's got OMG. These are song names, by the way,

1275
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 3: not the bands. I know none of us. There's all

1276
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 3: at once by Madison Beer there's d A n C

1277
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 3: by peg Goo. My favorite one by Ray Grandma calls

1278
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 3: the Boy bad News. Not not my favorite because it's

1279
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 3: a song. Just the song title is awesome with me.

1280
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 3: Right now, we've got Mark Mitchell and Ginny Anderson for politics. Weensday. Hell,

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01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 3: are you too good money?

1282
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: Mitch?

1283
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 3: I'm supposed you're not on holiday. Everybody's on holiday, Luxeon's

1284
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 3: on holiday.

1285
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 27: Mike's on holiday of the Emergency Management Minister, and we've

1286
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 27: got heaps of weather hppening around the country at the moment.

1287
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 3: What happens to you actually do you think? Do you

1288
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 3: say I'm going to go on holiday and then sort

1289
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 3: of some bad weather hits and then your holiday's off

1290
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 3: and your fiance still heads off to Barley by herself.

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01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 20: Yeah, that's happened last time. So but you know, like

1292
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 20: I take the role seriously.

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01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 27: And when we have these big weather events coming through,

1294
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 27: the potential there to have a massive need of impact

1295
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 27: on people is there the whole time, And so I

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Speaker 27: like to be available. I'll actually like to get on

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Speaker 27: the ground and see what we need to do and

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Speaker 27: what decisions need to be.

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Speaker 3: It's you intel on where lucky. I've heard Luckson's gone

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Speaker 3: on Hollybop's to Hawaii with j John Key. Is that

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Speaker 3: what's happened.

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Speaker 27: I don't know who he's gone on holiday with, but

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Speaker 27: you see's having a break with Amanda and you know,

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Speaker 27: which is very well.

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Speaker 20: Deserved to my view.

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Speaker 28: Have you got any gossip that Jenny No, I would

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Speaker 28: not be in the loop for knowing who like so holidays?

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Speaker 3: Do you know who should have gone on holiday Jenny

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Speaker 3: is Chris Hopkins? What's up with him?

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Speaker 28: He's doing fine, He's been great, He's been a fire lately.

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Speaker 29: He's been awesome, incredibly had we he incredibly hard talking

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Speaker 29: about the cost of living, which this government keeps trying

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Speaker 29: to hide with announcements on What did.

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Speaker 3: You make of him saying that the COVID inquiry is

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Speaker 3: platforming the conspiracy theorists?

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Speaker 28: Well, I did agree with the point that why have two?

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Speaker 28: Have you ever in New Zealand?

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Speaker 3: You do a stink job with the first one? That's

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Speaker 3: why we had to.

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Speaker 29: Have it was pretty good first one looked at what

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Speaker 29: we need to loom from pretty good a pandemic.

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Speaker 28: A pandemic in the first place, so I think that's important.

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Speaker 28: We're planning for a future pandemic, not just doing a

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Speaker 28: political hit job.

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Speaker 27: Well, that's that's really important. But your your first round

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Speaker 27: was a complete political whitewash. So that's why the second reality,

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Speaker 27: which gives.

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Speaker 28: Another political whitewash. Is that why one good white wash?

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Speaker 27: Well if you call, if you call giving everyone a

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Speaker 27: voice and being able to come along with have the say,

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Speaker 27: a whitewash.

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Speaker 20: If that's how you view it, then that's fine.

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Speaker 1: But we know they were your words.

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Speaker 28: Fine, they were your words.

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Speaker 20: So you just said, is this what a political white wash?

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Speaker 3: What are the chances would Jenny, what are the chances

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Speaker 3: just Cinda comes back for it? Do you reckon?

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Speaker 28: I really don't know. I mean I think that I've

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Speaker 28: heard lots of speculation about that, but I don't know

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Speaker 28: if she's even been formally invited to do that.

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Speaker 3: If she was formal because she's she's your patron saint. Now,

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Speaker 3: I mean you basically you've got to put some rosary

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Speaker 3: beads and you know you Cinda for the for the

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Speaker 3: Labor Party. Would you think less of your patron saints?

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Speaker 3: If she was invited and she didn't come.

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Speaker 28: Back, not really, I mean, she had so her decision.

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Speaker 28: She's no longer accountable, she's no longer as a politician,

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Speaker 28: she's no direct requirement to do that, so that will

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Speaker 28: be a decision completely up to her.

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Speaker 27: Go On, Well, last time I checked, she was a

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Speaker 27: key with and she had quite a bit to do, Jenny,

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Speaker 27: with the decisions that were made that impacted all of

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Speaker 27: us as a country.

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Speaker 3: Because she's milking, yeah.

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Speaker 28: Asking you'd like me to ask your personally, Mark, is it?

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Speaker 8: Yes?

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Speaker 1: I would.

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Speaker 3: I don't mind if you do.

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Speaker 20: Go on, Yeah, yeah, absolutely, that'd be great. Come back

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Speaker 20: to so as though what she says.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I don't.

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Speaker 28: I don't talk to a regularly. But that's really a decision,

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Speaker 28: does conversation. You should give her a back, You should

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Speaker 28: give her a ring.

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Speaker 3: Oh look, just give me her number. I'll give her

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Speaker 3: the ring, Jenny. If you don't want to do it,

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Speaker 3: I'm sure up. Yes, ske yeah. And the minute I

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Speaker 3: says Heather here, lord, I might be able to slide

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Speaker 3: through for a bit if I pretend to be Heather Simpson.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, listen, what do you think Mitch is a

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Speaker 3: family on two hundred and thirty thousand dollars poor.

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Speaker 20: Well, I mean, really good question. Moment obviously, we're in

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Speaker 20: a you know, things are tough.

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Speaker 27: We are in a recovery phase with the economy, although

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Speaker 27: we're starting to see some green shoots moving in the

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Speaker 27: right direction. But quite simply, obviously the decision was made

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Speaker 27: for the around the e SEC, around the family boost

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Speaker 27: policy to give to increase the access for it.

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Speaker 3: I don't think a family on two hundred and thirty

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Speaker 3: thousand dollars is poor, in which case, why are we

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Speaker 3: giving welfare to them? Because sure, I mean it might

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Speaker 3: be cost of living is difficult right now, But once

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Speaker 3: you introduce this, this welfare match, it hangs around forever.

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Speaker 3: Are you sure we should be giving welfare to people

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Speaker 3: who are actually pretty comfortable.

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Speaker 1: The real reason when we.

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Speaker 27: Say welfare, it's around looking, it's around child here and making.

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Speaker 3: Sure they're still well fare though, isn't it.

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Speaker 28: But the real reason here that is that not they

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Speaker 28: can't find national can't find one single family that benefited

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Speaker 28: from the initial family boost and that was a big

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Speaker 28: part of their election promises. So no one has been

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Speaker 28: able to benefit from this policy because it's too hard

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Speaker 28: to eases.

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Speaker 11: No.

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Speaker 3: I think this is rubbish.

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Speaker 28: This is doing everything they possibly can to make sure

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Speaker 28: at least some people get it and it's gone.

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Speaker 21: Probably.

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Speaker 3: What do you think, Jenny, is two thirty is two

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Speaker 3: thirty too wealthy to get welfare?

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Speaker 11: Well?

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Speaker 28: What they The way they've set it up is difficult

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Speaker 28: to access because you have to come and claim. So

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Speaker 28: we've seen right from the start the bureaucracy involved for

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Speaker 28: actually getting the money back is preventing people from accessing it.

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Speaker 28: And so instead of going back to the drawing board

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Speaker 28: and saying, how do we do this in a way

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Speaker 28: that families who really need it get it, they're just

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Speaker 28: widened the existing credit right now, so they've gone the

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Speaker 28: wrong way.

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Speaker 3: Is two thirty is two thirty too wealthy to get welfare? Jinny?

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Speaker 28: Well that's that's come on, just say true salaries. Salaries,

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Speaker 28: it is pretty high to getting excess.

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Speaker 3: It's too high, okay, So are you going to get

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Speaker 3: it pretty high?

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Speaker 28: It really high? Well, it doesn't work, so you don't

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Speaker 28: need to get rid of its excess.

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Speaker 3: Why I hate welfare because welfare, once you've got it,

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Speaker 3: everybody keeps it going. All right, take a break, we'll

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Speaker 3: come back to you guys shortly. Eight fourteen.

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Speaker 2: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio News.

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Speaker 3: Talk eight sixteen. You're back with Mark and Jenny. Mark.

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Speaker 3: When you were in the cops, did you ever have

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Speaker 3: people do the breathalyzer but then try to blow past

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Speaker 3: it or suck in?

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Speaker 20: Yeah?

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Speaker 27: You had always had lots of different ways that they

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Speaker 27: tried to avoid the test.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah.

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Speaker 3: And was it obvious to you when they were doing it, Yes,

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Speaker 3: it was yeah. Okay, So when you read that about

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Speaker 3: Kerry Allen, did you think that wouldn't have flown with me?

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Speaker 20: Yeah? I think. Look, I spoke with Kerry at the time.

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Speaker 27: I had already known that the police had been given

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Speaker 27: quite a hard time and had to talk with her

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Speaker 27: about that. And I'm not going to pick over the

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Speaker 27: bones of it. I know that when I was up

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Speaker 27: at WAITINGI last year, myself and Simon wats R on

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Speaker 27: their way to a meeting up north and we found

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Speaker 27: a lady who were tragically that had a messive heart

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Speaker 27: attack on the side of the road and we worked

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Speaker 27: on her for about We did CPR on her for

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Speaker 27: about half an hour before assistants arrived and Kerry Ellen

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Speaker 27: stopped and gaves a hand. So, you know, she's made

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Speaker 27: some mistakes the way she behaved as Justice minister was

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Speaker 27: completely totally unacceptable on that. But I believe in redemption

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01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 27: and everyone makes mistakes, and you know, she's sort of

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Speaker 27: getting on with it.

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Speaker 3: There is a debate at the moment, Jenny about whether

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Speaker 3: this is relevant or not, given that it's such a

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Speaker 3: long time ago now and she's not a minister anymore.

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Speaker 3: What do you think.

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Speaker 28: I think it's a hard call me. That's always the

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Speaker 28: issue whether these public interest involved and what's what's the

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Speaker 28: point in rehashing those things. I mean, it must be

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Speaker 28: incredibly hard for Kitty. It's been you So I agree

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Speaker 28: with Mark. She made the mistakes and she paid the

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Speaker 28: price for those, including going through the court process. But

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Speaker 28: it must be really difficult for her to have all

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Speaker 28: of these details playing out again in people going through them.

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Speaker 28: And I was the Minister of Police at the time

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Speaker 28: that took the call from police when when she'd been found,

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Speaker 28: So it was it was an incredibly tough time.

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Speaker 3: Now, Jinny, listen, what do you make of the minimum

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Speaker 3: sentences thing? Would you be okay with us telling judges

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Speaker 3: what the minimum sentences on certain crimes should be?

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Speaker 28: Well, he said it's kind of danced around his knees

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Speaker 28: kind of see what we might do it because these

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Speaker 28: things don't work. But it's SEMs like they're kind of

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Speaker 28: throwing everything at the wall. It doesn't seem to be

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Speaker 28: much of a connection between you know, yep, coward punch

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Speaker 28: and you've got first if the first responders, and then

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Speaker 28: there was another one, and there's this one. It's sort

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Speaker 28: of to me it smacked a bit of the cost

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Speaker 28: of living. Crisis is really biting, it's really hurting us

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Speaker 28: in the polls, and we're going to just chuck a

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Speaker 28: whole bunch of law and order stuff out there as

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Speaker 28: a bit of a distraction. So I'm not convinced that

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Speaker 28: there's a connection between all of these announcements or whether

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Speaker 28: there's a genuine intent on actually making.

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Speaker 27: Well that's like that would be Labour's approach, and that's

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Speaker 27: why I don't take Labor or the Green seriously when.

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Speaker 28: It comes hof really much, it's a surprise.

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Speaker 27: Well, no, no, I never have because you're not serious

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Speaker 27: people when it comes to public safety, and you haven't

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Speaker 27: supported any of the measures that we've brought through Parliament

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Speaker 27: this term that actually are proving to be effective. Coward's

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Speaker 27: punch is a terrible people die because of cowards punch

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Speaker 27: the first. I know we are, but you were just

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Speaker 27: that those were raised. I'll get to minimum sentences. First responders.

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Speaker 27: We should have zero tolerance on this country for the

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Speaker 27: people that protect does respond when we need the most

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Speaker 27: being assaulted or abused, and there should be legislation. I

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Speaker 27: tried to take this bill through. I picked it up

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Speaker 27: from Derek Bill and tried to take it through an

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Speaker 27: opposition labour wouldn't support it.

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Speaker 20: Now we've got the bill.

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Speaker 3: What about the minimum sentences?

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Speaker 27: Though minimum sentences I'm me personally I like the idea

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Speaker 27: of minimum sentences, but the way that we've done things

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Speaker 27: in this country, as we've gone for maximum and we've

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Speaker 27: allowed the judiciary to have discretion around that, we've sent

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Speaker 27: very clear signals as a government to the judiciary that

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Speaker 27: we expect the seriousness of the offending to be reflected

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Speaker 27: in the consequences and the sentencing. We'll wait and see

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Speaker 27: what happens, but I'm very open to go in minimum sentences.

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Speaker 20: Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Okay, fantastic. Now, Ginny, what about the citizen's arrest right

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Speaker 3: because the Children's Commissioner wants kids to be excluded, what

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Speaker 3: do you.

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Speaker 28: Think well, when we got the official mation actor, even

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Speaker 28: police said this is really dangerous and these are risks

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01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 28: not just to the shop owners and to whoever's being

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01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 28: held on to, which is likely to be kids, but

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01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 28: it's also just a general public safety risk and police

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01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 28: were advice rasing, you know, Mark Mitchell as Minister of

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01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:04,599
Speaker 28: Police not to do this because it's going to actually

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01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:08,600
Speaker 28: make life harder for police and create more dangerous situations.

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01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 28: So I think she's got some fear points that we

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01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 28: just don't know how this is going to play out,

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01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 28: and there's a real fear that the first time it's

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01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:16,679
Speaker 28: used could be quite serious if.

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Speaker 1: You do not do this.

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Speaker 3: Though for the kids, Mitch, do you not simply end

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01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 3: up with a situation where actually they are incentivised to

1527
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 3: see the criminal criminal gangs, incentivised to send the kids

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01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 3: in because the kids get away.

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01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 20: Yeah.

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01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:29,599
Speaker 27: Again, we inherited an awful situation where we're retail theft

1531
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 27: and crime, especially violent crime, is through the roof, and

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01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:34,599
Speaker 27: we're taking positive actions to address with that. And one

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01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 27: of them is a citizen's power of arrest, which was

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01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 27: already in existence that it has already been used. We've

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01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 27: extended the hours. People can choose whether or want to,

1536
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 27: whether or not they want to use it or not.

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01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:47,560
Speaker 27: Some retailers will embrace it, they'll use it with they'll

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01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 27: invest in their security and their physical security. But we've

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01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:51,880
Speaker 27: got to take measures to get on top of this

1540
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 27: retail crime. And you've Jenny's completely overread the position that

1541
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:58,760
Speaker 27: the police presented on us, and the fact and the

1542
01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 27: fact of the matter is is is a government. We

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01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:02,600
Speaker 27: are going to give every tool and we're going to

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01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:05,800
Speaker 27: use every tool that's available to start to clemp down

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Speaker 27: on retail chrome. It does not accept all right.

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Speaker 3: Listen, guys, thank you so much. Enjoy the rest of

1547
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 3: your school holidays. Few more days left. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: Ether thank says a mother right there. Jinny Henderson and

1549
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 3: Mark Mitchell, Politics, Wednesday eight twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Heather do for see Allen on the mic asking Breakfast

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Speaker 2: with Bailey's Real Estate News Talks NB.

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Speaker 3: you're getting is accurate? And where is it's sourcing those

1556
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Speaker 3: answers from nowadays? Hey, how about an HR consultant or

1557
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Speaker 3: a lawyer. The time's been answering, those questions will add

1558
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1559
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Speaker 1: Heather duplessye Ellen, we did this all the time, heither.

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01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 3: When I was in retail, any shoplift as we grabbed,

1572
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 3: we held them in the office and we phoned the

1573
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:28,679
Speaker 3: coppers here. The Family Boost for assistance with daycare costs

1574
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 3: what a joke. What's happening is parents are receiving the money,

1575
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 3: but they're not paying their daycare bill. And then they're

1576
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 3: pocketing the money. A friend has two daycares and this

1577
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 3: is what has happened in practice. Oh lord, so you

1578
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 3: know this is the trouble right.

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01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:40,439
Speaker 19: Oh.

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01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 3: The older I get, the more I hear, the more

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01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 3: I hate the welfare because it just gets gamed. Hey

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01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 3: eight twenty six. Now happy to say I have been

1583
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 3: proven right on this, not because I want to be

1584
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 3: proven right, although I'm going to claim the victory, but

1585
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 3: because this is the right thing to do. Wellington Hospital

1586
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:58,560
Speaker 3: has backed down on that ridiculous idea of cutting the

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01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:01,760
Speaker 3: paternity beds. They say they've had careful consideration of feedback

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01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 3: from a broad range of stakeholders and the proposal will

1589
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 3: not continue. Now I cut a shortcut that Do you

1590
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 3: know what all they needed to do? I mean, you don't.

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01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 3: They've made a dick of themselves, haven't they. They've got

1592
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 3: the public consult That's not what this was about. They

1593
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 3: were going to do the thing and unfortunately it's blown

1594
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 3: up on them. I just needed to find a mum,

1595
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 3: just walk into the maternity service, go hey, are you

1596
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 3: a mum?

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01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 16: Oh?

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01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, you've got a baby. Yeah, what do you think

1599
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 3: about this idea? Or maybe ask I don't know one

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01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 3: of the mum on staff or something. They would all said,

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01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 3: don't do.

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01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 23: It because remember, they're always right. There's no I mean,

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01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:31,680
Speaker 23: that's just an inevitable.

1604
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 3: Rule of life life Listen that you get taught from

1605
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 3: the age dot mums are always right. Do not take

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01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 3: their toast away after they've had a baby. Do not

1607
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 3: take the bed away before they've had a baby, had

1608
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:42,800
Speaker 3: a bad idea?

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01:14:43,000 --> 01:15:01,960
Speaker 30: Off to Australia next us talk to their Bearnie.

1610
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Speaker 1: The only report you need to start your day.

1611
01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:00,160
Speaker 2: Heather duper c Allen on the mic, asking Breakfast with

1612
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 2: the land Rover Discovery never stop discovering News, Tom dead

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Speaker 2: b Hey.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you want to know this or not,

1615
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 3: but seeing as I'm reading it, it feels very relevant

1616
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 3: to me. Jacinda's memoir got the numbers on how much

1617
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 3: it's sold, has sold the most copies of any New

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01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:16,080
Speaker 3: Zealand book this year. It's been out only for a

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01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 3: month and it has sold ten thousand copies, which is

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01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 3: not bad when you I mean, I'm like ten thousand people,

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01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:23,800
Speaker 3: there's not many people. But then when you think about

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01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:25,639
Speaker 3: the number of people who actively go out and buy

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01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 3: books nowadays, there's probably quite a lot, and even more so,

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01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:31,799
Speaker 3: are prepared to buy a book that costs sixty dollars.

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01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 23: So that's more than all those other famous New Zealand books.

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01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 23: I'm just trying to think of the other ones that

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01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 23: have come out this year.

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01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 3: So yeah, point is easy to be, easy to beat.

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01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 3: You're going to make me name them. Now, the top

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01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:48,559
Speaker 3: ten New Zealand nonfiction list has biographies in the top four.

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01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 23: She's on a nonfiction list.

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01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:52,560
Speaker 15: Just sin is it?

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01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 3: Number one? Alison Moore's No Words for This as number two,

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01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 3: Pipo Latour and Jude Dobson's The Last Secret Agent is

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01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 3: number three, and then the second part of Ruth Shaw's

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01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 3: biography is number four. Now, the thing about this is

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01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 3: she has sold the next I don't look, I don't

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01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:11,639
Speaker 3: know like it seems like the next best selling book

1639
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 3: New Zealand, it seems is about three thousand dish and

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01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 3: she sold about three times that. She has to sell

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01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 3: apparently one hundred and forty thousand copies to make the

1642
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:22,639
Speaker 3: one and a half million dollar advance back, and apparently

1643
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:26,600
Speaker 3: if sales continue as they are, she will absolutely do

1644
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 3: that on the aze.

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01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 23: That's because we keep giving her all this great advertising

1646
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 23: on the world's most popular radio station.

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01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:35,640
Speaker 3: Happy to say that I contributed to just In the

1648
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 3: becoming a gazillionaire and never having to come back to

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01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:40,720
Speaker 3: this country by buying her sixty dollars book. Did I

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01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:41,800
Speaker 3: tell you it was autographed?

1651
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 1: Though?

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01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 3: So it was twenty one away from.

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01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:48,680
Speaker 14: Nine International correspondence with ends and eye insurance peace of

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01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 14: mind for New Zealand Business.

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Speaker 3: Dennis Shanahan is our Australia corresponding political editor of The

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01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 3: Australian Dennis.

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Speaker 20: Morning Good eight.

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01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 3: So what's going on here with the Reserve Bank the Treasurer.

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01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 17: Look, I think there's a little bit of tints in

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01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:09,639
Speaker 17: emerging between the Central Bank and the Treasurer. Jim Chalmers

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01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 17: wouldn't say that. He actually criticized the decision yesterday by

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01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 17: the Bank not to lower rates despite the expectation from

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01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 17: the markets. He said that people would be disappointed, but

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01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 17: not that he was, although he then pointed out, oh

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01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 17: it was a split decision. This was the first time

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01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:34,639
Speaker 17: we've actually seen the publication of the vote. The fact

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01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 17: that there were six four holding the rates as they

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01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:43,680
Speaker 17: are and three against. So Jim Charmers is using his

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01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 17: and these are his reforms to actually politicize a bit

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01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:51,719
Speaker 17: of the rape decisions. But I think what's really here

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01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 17: and the real difference here between the Bank and the

1672
01:17:56,400 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 17: Treasurer is that Michelle Bullet said quite clearly, yes, inflation

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01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 17: is down, but it's still too early. We want to

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01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:09,280
Speaker 17: see a quarterly CPI here which we can rely on.

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01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:15,919
Speaker 17: And secondly, productivity is still too low. That the sales

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01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 17: are still weak, consumer sentiment is still low, and wages

1677
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:25,960
Speaker 17: are still going up and seas pointing once again to

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01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:29,679
Speaker 17: the weakness of productivity in Australia. And of course next

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01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:32,559
Speaker 17: month when she makes the decision or the board makes

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01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 17: the next decision on whether to lower rates, we will

1681
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 17: be just before Anton now Albernasi's productivity to mission or

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01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:45,639
Speaker 17: summer to whatever it is in Canberra, and then we'll

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01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 17: see that the real focus will be on productivity. And

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01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 17: that's what was the thanks about. It's not just about CPI.

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Speaker 3: I see. Listen, do you think over in Melbourne that

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01:18:57,479 --> 01:18:59,720
Speaker 3: that task force they've sets up to crack down on

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01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 3: the end a Semitism is going to work?

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01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 17: Well, look, I think that it's trying to say that,

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01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 17: you know, we're going to do this, And yesterday the

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01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 17: Prime Minster said of the whole setup was doing a

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01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 17: good job. Well, it doesn't seem to be doing a

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01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 17: very good job on preventing these problems. It has been

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01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:27,400
Speaker 17: a problem for the albanaser government since the invasion of

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01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:31,560
Speaker 17: Israel by hamas A, the terror attacks. And look, I

1695
01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 17: think that now since the election, we're seeing a very

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01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 17: different reaction, a very different public reaction from the Prime

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01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 17: Minister and the Ministers Tony Burke and Jason Clair. And

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01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:47,600
Speaker 17: they are trying to say we are doing things, we

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01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 17: are reacting quickly. But I think that the idea of

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01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 17: a task force looks like a little bit too little,

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01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 17: too late.

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01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, what are you expecting from Elbow in that speech

1703
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:00,679
Speaker 3: over the weekend about and tariffs.

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01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:06,639
Speaker 17: Look, I think it was very confusable for actually having

1705
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 17: read curtain speak for a long time ago. I think

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01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 17: that the Prime Minister was distorting what John Curtin actually

1707
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:17,639
Speaker 17: said back in the Second World War about the need

1708
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:21,559
Speaker 17: for the US alliance and the Prime minist is sending

1709
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:25,839
Speaker 17: a very mixed message. And today Penny Wong will believing

1710
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:29,680
Speaker 17: to go to Asian and the Asian Regional Forum and

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01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 17: she is again talking about the need for regional cooperation

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01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:39,640
Speaker 17: for multilateralism and the rule of law. Anthony Albinasi and

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01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 17: Penny Wong are not talking about the strategic threat of

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01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:49,040
Speaker 17: China in the region while they are supporting the whole

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01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 17: aucust nuclear submarine program. It's a very confusing and I

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01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:59,560
Speaker 17: think dangerous as far as Australia's into concerned with the

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01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 17: US aliance.

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01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:02,120
Speaker 3: Dennis, it's good to talk to you, mate, Thank you

1719
01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 3: so much. Dennis Shanahan, Australia correspondent. Listen, I can't actually

1720
01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 3: believe I'm telling you this, but there's been another stuff

1721
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:10,840
Speaker 3: up with the AI at Wimbledon overnight. So this time

1722
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 3: it called remember last time, it didn't see the ball

1723
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:14,840
Speaker 3: had gone out. This time it called the ballers out,

1724
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:16,599
Speaker 3: but the ball wasn't out. It was the quarter finals

1725
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 3: match between Taylor Fritz and Karen Kakano canoff whatever who cares,

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Speaker 3: but it's tennis names there was. Karen was playing Taylor

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Speaker 3: and the quarterfinals match went a bit funny because one

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01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:31,280
Speaker 3: of them served and it landed a meter within the baseline.

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01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 3: But the AI saw that and went fault and obviously

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01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 3: a meter and is not a fault. Trouble was when

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01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:38,639
Speaker 3: the serve was taken the bull boy was still running

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Speaker 3: back to position. He was crossing the net and the

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Speaker 3: AI couldn't handle that, just could not see what was

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01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 3: going on. Empire had to suspend play, had to get

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Speaker 3: the phone, make a phone call to somebody who was

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01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 3: running the tech find out what happened. Then told the

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Speaker 3: crowd Karen with the play the system is now working. Well,

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Speaker 3: we'll see if it is sixteen away from Nome.

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Speaker 2: The Mi Casking breakfast Ball Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard

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Speaker 2: News talks.

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Speaker 16: That be.

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01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:05,120
Speaker 3: Hey on Trump by the way, he had their cabinet

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01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:08,840
Speaker 3: meeting today and and pretty much uses an opportunity to

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01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 3: have a crack at pootin that.

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Speaker 6: Was a war, that that was a war that should

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Speaker 6: have ever happened, and a lot of people are dying

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01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:17,559
Speaker 6: and it should end. And I don't know, we get

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01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 6: we get, we get a lot of bullshit.

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01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 1: Thrown at us by poot for you one another truth.

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01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:25,280
Speaker 6: It's very nice all the time, but it turns out

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01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:28,520
Speaker 6: to be meaningless together.

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Speaker 3: Do for c Ellen endowing a bit of the swearing lately,

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01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 3: isn't he hither? I reckon just Sinda is buying up

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01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 3: her own book. Lolls conspiracy theory actually do you know

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01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 3: what not entirely a conspiracy theory. Now, I'm not saying

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01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:41,479
Speaker 3: this is happening here, but I don't know if you're

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01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:45,120
Speaker 3: aware of this. It is in the States. They funny

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01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 3: things happen in the States where basically publishers, publishers will

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01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 3: will will pay these huge advances and get books published, right,

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01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 3: and then what happens is that the packs buy the books. Right,

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01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:00,760
Speaker 3: So you'll have these political organizations that go and just

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01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 3: buy these books on mass and then they give them away,

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01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 3: like you know, to Party Faithful and stuff like that,

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01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 3: all store them on warehouses or whatever. And it's basically

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01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 3: a very complicated, well it's actually not that complete. It's

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01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 3: a simple and understood way of getting these ideas out there.

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01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:17,200
Speaker 24: Right.

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Speaker 3: So let's say, and I'm not saying it's happening to Justinda,

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01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:21,960
Speaker 3: but it's possible she gets paid one point five mil.

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01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:25,640
Speaker 3: And then you know, with the understanding that that the

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01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:27,880
Speaker 3: Democratic Party, for example, would go out and just buy

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01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 3: loads of these books and then hand them out thereby

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01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 3: making the publisher the money back. Right, I'm not saying

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01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:35,400
Speaker 3: it's happening to Justinda. I'm not saying that there's no

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01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 3: proof of that. However, that is how it sometimes works

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01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 3: with other publishers. And now it's going you know what,

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01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:44,880
Speaker 3: Now people are going to say, well, here the said

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01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 3: on the radio that said that the Democratic Democrats are

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01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:50,880
Speaker 3: buying Jacinda's book. So this is how conspiracy theory starts. Actually,

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01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:53,080
Speaker 3: I've got it. I've got a conspiracy theory for you.

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01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:55,760
Speaker 3: Someone weird going on with christ Huge City Council. They

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01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:58,200
Speaker 3: don't want to tell anyone where they're growing the grass

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01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 3: for the new stadium because Takah has supposed open soon.

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01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 3: So they've got to get growing with the grass, right

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01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 3: because you bring the turf and you lay it all

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01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:05,439
Speaker 3: out and it's a lot of grass. It's like nine

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01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:08,400
Speaker 3: thousand square meters of the stuff. So the media have asked, well,

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01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:10,599
Speaker 3: where are you growing nine thousand square meters of grass

1789
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:14,760
Speaker 3: because it's interesting and at Krosier City Council not going

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01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 3: to tell you, just just growing locally, not going to

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01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:19,320
Speaker 3: tell you. And it's been going on for ages that

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01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:21,200
Speaker 3: the media have been trying to figure it out. In May,

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01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 3: the local paper asked if they could see the grass growing,

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01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 3: but the construction managers at the stadium refused and they

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01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 3: wouldn't say no. They said no, and well why nope, can't.

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01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 20: Tell you why.

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01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 3: So the media thought, well this is weird. Let's hit

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01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:36,160
Speaker 3: the paperwork. So they made a request under the LAGUIMA,

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01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 3: which is the Local Government Official Information Meetings Act nineteen

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01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:43,760
Speaker 3: eighty seven. And even under the paperwork, the Christier City

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01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:45,800
Speaker 3: Council said, nap, not going to tell you, not going

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01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:48,439
Speaker 3: to tell you which company is growing the grass. Councils said,

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01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:51,400
Speaker 3: we've got a contract to doing it. It's Basick's wet Pack.

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01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:54,840
Speaker 3: They're managing the development of the turf with subcontractors. So

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01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 3: the media asked, Basicks wet Pack, where are you growing it?

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01:24:57,400 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 3: Who's growing it for you? Nope, company won't no, no

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01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:02,000
Speaker 3: inf to share. So the question, of course is well,

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01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:04,720
Speaker 3: why are you being weird about it? Council's reason is

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01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:07,600
Speaker 3: protection of commercial interests and avoiding prejudice to measures that

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01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 3: mitigate will prevent material loss to members of the public.

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01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:11,560
Speaker 3: I know, right, I know.

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01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:14,040
Speaker 16: Goodness to me, it sounds like a very attractive proposition.

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Speaker 1: Godness me, goodness me.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So the protection of commercial interests is common. They

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01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:21,760
Speaker 3: just say that when they don't want answer the question.

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01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:24,920
Speaker 3: The material loss suggests though, second half of that suggests

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01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:26,200
Speaker 3: that they think that if they tell us where the

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01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 3: grass is being grown, someone's going to go and vandalize

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01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 3: the grass. And that's weird, isn't it.

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01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:31,640
Speaker 11: I mean, it's a.

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01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:33,760
Speaker 23: Waste of time too. You don't vandalize it until it's

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01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:36,840
Speaker 23: actually on the stadium, that's right. Then you do the

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01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 23: dick and balls with the weed killer.

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01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 3: After you're going to get all the eyeballs on it. Look,

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01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:41,880
Speaker 3: it's not the first time, to be honest about it's

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01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:44,720
Speaker 3: New Zealand. It's not the first time someone's keeping the

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01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:47,559
Speaker 3: grass growing location a secret that don't want to tell

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01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 3: you where they're growing their grass. It's just weird that

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01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 3: it's Christchot City Council doing it. Nine away from nine.

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01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 2: Here the duplicy Ellen on the mic Hosking Breakfast with

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01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:59,639
Speaker 2: a Vita Retirement Communities News togs Head be why.

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01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:02,439
Speaker 3: Would here, Why would the council allow the opportunity for

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01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:05,400
Speaker 3: some fruitcake to intentionally damage the grass? I agree with them,

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01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 3: the location should be kept secret.

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01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 1: How do you keep it?

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing, though, how do you keep nine thousand

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01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:15,160
Speaker 3: square meters of grass a secret? I mean, I would

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01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:17,599
Speaker 3: have thought that's like Surely somebody's looked out there and gone,

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01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:21,680
Speaker 3: that's a lot of grass. Maybe, do you think that's

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01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 3: what takaha? Anyway, Look, it started a thing, now, hasn't it.

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01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 3: So Surely now that we've all had a big winge

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01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:28,640
Speaker 3: about the fact that we don't know where it is,

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01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:31,920
Speaker 3: somebody's gonna knock because that's what we want. Knack in culture,

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01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 3: So tell us six away from.

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01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 2: Nine trending now warehouse your home of winter essentials.

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01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:42,320
Speaker 3: Now. K pop has long been rising in the music scene.

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01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:48,519
Speaker 3: The two most famous examples of K pop probably be

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01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:50,640
Speaker 3: the all girl group Black Pink and then the all

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01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 3: boy group BTS and that've just recently reunited. This is BTS.

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01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:56,760
Speaker 3: They've announced a new album in a world talk because

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01:26:56,760 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 3: they just finished their mandatory two year military service. Despite

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01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:02,880
Speaker 3: how big these two big groups are, they're both being

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01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:06,720
Speaker 3: taken over by a fake kpop group. When I say

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01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:10,080
Speaker 3: taken over. Netflix has a new show called K Pop

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01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:13,080
Speaker 3: Demon Hunters. It's totally normal storyline of a K pop

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01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:15,839
Speaker 3: group playing to sold out arenas to lure out demons

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01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:18,519
Speaker 3: trying to attack fans. The group in the show is

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01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 3: called Saja Boys, and you're listening to their song Your Idol.

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01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:26,200
Speaker 3: For the first time ever, a K pop song has

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01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:28,519
Speaker 3: topped the US Spotify charts, and it's all from this

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01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:30,439
Speaker 3: fake group. In fact, they even have the number two

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01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:33,880
Speaker 3: slot as well with the song Golden was.

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01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:37,760
Speaker 1: A Girl Those Long had ha.

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01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 3: This is from another fake all girl group in the

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01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:44,720
Speaker 3: show called Hunter Slash X. It gets Better. Seven of

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01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 3: the top twenty songs on the US Daily Charts and

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01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:50,240
Speaker 3: Spotify are from these two fake groups. In fact, of

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01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:53,559
Speaker 3: the top ten, it includes five of them. Netflix says

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01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 3: they will be nominating this song to the Academy Awards

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01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:58,320
Speaker 3: for consideration for Best Original Song. It is a weird

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01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:04,120
Speaker 3: time in the musical world. Lord, but this is this AI.

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01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 9: Who knows?

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01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:07,639
Speaker 17: Who knows?

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01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 3: In the book? Can you even tell? By the way

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01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:10,840
Speaker 3: on the AI, I never got a chance to tell you.

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01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:13,639
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell really quickly. So I did this event

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01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:16,639
Speaker 3: at an AI event with One New Zealand and Jason

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01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:18,479
Speaker 3: Parris was there. He's the boss of One New Zealand.

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01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:19,880
Speaker 3: You'll know him as the guy who always gives a

1880
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:22,200
Speaker 3: hard time to the refs for being mean to the Warriors. Anyway,

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01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:25,840
Speaker 3: Jason is so obsessed with with with AI. He's got

1882
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:28,760
Speaker 3: me into AI, and so now I use beforehand, I

1883
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 3: was like, God, I can't be bothered with AI. I

1884
01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 3: use AI all the time. I was reading just in Bok.

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01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:34,360
Speaker 3: Sorry to keep talking about just in this book. I

1886
01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 3: was reading just in his book last night. She was

1887
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:37,840
Speaker 3: complaining in the book because somebody said that she'd been

1888
01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:40,400
Speaker 3: she went to Facardi White Island just to hug people.

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01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:41,519
Speaker 19: I was like, who did that?

1890
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:44,800
Speaker 3: Typed it into oh geez, typed it into chat with

1891
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:47,639
Speaker 3: the chat GPT to find out answers all my questions

1892
01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 3: for me. Jason Parris is so weird. I hope he

1893
01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:53,280
Speaker 3: doesn't mind me saying it because it's too late. Jason

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01:28:53,320 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 3: Paris is so weird about AI. He has AI on

1895
01:28:56,479 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 3: in the car when he's driving and talks to it

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01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:00,720
Speaker 3: like it's his wife. So he'll be like, hey, I

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01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:03,960
Speaker 3: don't know what he calls it, Hey Sarah, but the AI.

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01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:05,200
Speaker 23: Darling presumably right, dully.

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01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm off to meet Heather from newstalks'd be tell

1900
01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 3: me three facts about her so I can have a

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01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:13,360
Speaker 3: conversation and then I I will be like, she's got

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01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:17,559
Speaker 3: two children, she's obsessed with AI now and she's quite boring, like.

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01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:19,200
Speaker 23: It all, and it's you know, so we've got a

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01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:21,559
Speaker 23: full blind her working Phoenix situation.

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01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:24,600
Speaker 3: It's totally exactly that Jason Paris is having a relationship

1906
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:26,680
Speaker 3: with his AI. Anyway, because of that, I thought that

1907
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 3: looks healthy and wonderful. So I have got into it

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01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:30,960
Speaker 3: and I cannot recommend it more. And we're just gonna go.

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01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:33,360
Speaker 23: NU should just use it to summarize the whole book.

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01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:37,280
Speaker 3: She's now, what a great idea. I might do that later, actually,

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Speaker 3: when I get home. See you tomorrow.

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