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Speaker 1: Too much to hope for Trump and put In getting

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Speaker 1: together maybe next week in a room. Who would believe

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Speaker 1: this is Zelenski out of a call yesterday. Of course

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Speaker 1: the guest to put in this favoring the ceasefire secondary

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Speaker 1: terror threats may have had an effect. This is India.

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Speaker 1: They're not happy, of course. And there's another one of

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Speaker 1: these Trump did lines that expires tomorrow. Trump remember said,

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Speaker 1: we're twelve fourteen days from Turnbrey. You've got to sort

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Speaker 1: this war out anyway, Jimmy rushed in foreign policy expert

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Speaker 1: in keys back. Well, there's Jimmy morning, Good morning. Anything

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Speaker 1: going to come with us.

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Speaker 2: It's really difficult to say. So obviously there was the

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Speaker 2: news reported that there was a bilateral meeting between Trump

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Speaker 2: and Putin agreed. But now the New York Post, which

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Speaker 2: has relatively good sourcing within the Trump administration, have come

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Speaker 2: out and quoted Trump administration officials are saying that this

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Speaker 2: is not the case and that the Kremlin claims of

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Speaker 2: a one on one were false. So it seems like

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Speaker 2: a lot of people took what the Kremlin was selling

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Speaker 2: spinning right, and I've run with it. I do think

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Speaker 2: it shows the Kremlin is feeling the pressure that they

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Speaker 2: feel the need to pretend that they are ready for

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Speaker 2: peace because of the sanctions you said secondary sanctions as well.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think we're getting close.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, on the field, if I'm putent, I'm winning, Do

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Speaker 1: I want a meeting, do I want to cease fire

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Speaker 1: or not?

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Speaker 2: I think winning is too strong a word to use.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they are advancing, but they're nowhere close to

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Speaker 2: gaining anything strategically. They're gaining a few kilometers of destroyed

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Speaker 2: territory in these to Ukraine, but it's not economically productive

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Speaker 2: and it doesn't bring them any closer to actually ending

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Speaker 2: the war. And they're also burning through, you know, astonishing

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Speaker 2: amounts of manpower and material to gain this relatively useless land.

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Speaker 2: So you know, for Putin, he probably thinks that he

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Speaker 2: can outlast the West. But you know, from the Ukrainian perspective,

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Speaker 2: they are you know, they're still fighting, they're still holding strong,

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Speaker 2: and they would rather continue to fight than to, you know,

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Speaker 2: to accept a deal on really poor terms.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff, Jimmy, appreciate your update, Jimmy Rushton. So that's

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Speaker 1: going nowhere, seemingly of Jimmy's running, I suspect he is.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I've got a yacht for you, one

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Speaker 1: of the Oligark's yacht. One of the things they're doing,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if this is real, is that they're

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Speaker 1: working with Oligarks who were tight with Putin. This is

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Speaker 1: the Americans. They're about to auction this yacht, by the way,

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Speaker 1: it's the first one to be auctioned from the stuff

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Speaker 1: they seized when the war started. But they're working with

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Speaker 1: Oligarks who were tight with Putin to put the pressure

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Speaker 1: on him to come to the table. So we'll see

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