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Speaker 1: Barry so for senior political correspondence with US. Now, hey Barry,

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Speaker 1: good afternoon. Do you make the poll?

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Speaker 2: Well, polls are all about timing, aren't they. And you

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Speaker 2: know this government has come in, it has introduced so

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Speaker 2: much in the first six months since it's been there,

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Speaker 2: but nothing really tangibly has happened yet in terms of

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Speaker 2: tax cuts, for example, they don't come in until the

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Speaker 2: end of July, seven weeks. Yes, it'll be interesting to

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Speaker 2: see what happens when they come in. And I heard

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Speaker 2: Mike Hoskin talking this morning about ram raids and I

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Speaker 2: thought i'd go and have a look at them. And

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Speaker 2: the figures for those who have just come out, they

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Speaker 2: are down, as he said, more than eighty percent for

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Speaker 2: the month of April twelve ram raids in April there

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Speaker 2: shouldn't be any, of course, as compared though to sixty

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Speaker 2: four in April last year. The police starter shows that

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Speaker 2: the downward end has continued since the peak in August

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two when there were eighty six ram rads.

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Speaker 2: So you know, it takes time for all this to

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Speaker 2: feed through to business and to the community because the

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Speaker 2: community is affected by this dreadful behavior. So I think

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Speaker 2: it's just early days. Chris Lackson won't be happy. He

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Speaker 2: doesn't seem to have sort of captured the public imagination.

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Speaker 2: But I think, you know personally, I mean, I've watched

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Speaker 2: what thirteen or fourteen Prime and this has come through

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Speaker 2: in my time, and you know, he's I think when

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Speaker 2: you see him out with the public, he's very engaging,

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Speaker 2: more engaging than many primes.

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Speaker 3: But its problem as he flip flops on subjects, right,

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Speaker 3: But that's that's just a changing his position in that it's.

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Speaker 2: Being a newbie.

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Speaker 1: That's possibly true.

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Speaker 3: Possible that the reason that they're doing as poorly as

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Speaker 3: they are in the polls comparative for you know, where

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Speaker 3: we are in the bortcycle is maybe a combination of

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Speaker 3: the fact that they are actually at pace doing things

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Speaker 3: and also the electorate is grumpy because the cost of

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Speaker 3: living crisis sucks and you blame the government, whoever the

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Speaker 3: government is.

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Speaker 2: That's right, and they are at such pace doing things

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Speaker 2: that the public haven't really caught up with that yet.

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Speaker 1: So it's it's it's kind of like it's making a

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Speaker 1: lot of people upset, right, and we don't like upsets.

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Speaker 2: Well, people are probably less upset than they were this

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Speaker 2: time last year. But they are still upset. They had

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Speaker 2: hoped that a change your government would somehow present sort

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Speaker 2: of a miraculous.

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Speaker 3: I was meaning that you're making people. This government is

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Speaker 3: making people upset, like the people who are protesting against

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Speaker 3: the oil and gas returning, people who are upset about

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Speaker 3: Maori related changes.

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Speaker 1: That kind it makes people feel uncomfortable.

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Speaker 2: Yes, all right, give it time, That's what I'd say.

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Speaker 2: And if I was in government, I don't think I'd

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Speaker 2: be too worried.

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Speaker 1: What has Michael Wood said?

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Speaker 2: Oh well, this is why I was looking about Michael Wood.

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Speaker 3: This is the period of reprieve where he's not in

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Speaker 3: Parliament because he's probably going to be back and he

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Speaker 3: was there before, and this is the down period where

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Speaker 3: you're not supposed to bring him up.

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Speaker 2: Well, like you rather excitedly said yesterday on here that

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Speaker 2: the ritualist, I mean it should be celebrated, and I

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Speaker 2: totally agree that for the first time in more than

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Speaker 2: twenty years, Graham heart at worth a piddling twelve billion dollars,

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Speaker 2: was knocked off by the Mowbray family with around twenty billion. Now,

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Speaker 2: your old mate, the former best transport minister in the

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Speaker 2: history of the world. Michael Wood, who's now gone to

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Speaker 2: the trade unions. Of course, he reckons the country's out

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Speaker 2: of bollance, and most working in the menial jobs should

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Speaker 2: be recognized as well.

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Speaker 4: Our society can't function without their work. So it's kind

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Speaker 4: of about recognizing that everyone contributes. Yes, these people on

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Speaker 4: the rich list, but a lot of other New Zealanders

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Speaker 4: as well, and a lot of people have been doing

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Speaker 4: it tough recently. But you know, there was an interesting

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Speaker 4: little point in here as well. Yes, some of those

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Speaker 4: people do voluntarily contribute back a lot. But for people

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Speaker 4: who have very wealthy in New Zealand, they actually pay

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Speaker 4: less than a percentage of the income and tax than

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Speaker 4: the person who's serving you at the petrol station or

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Speaker 4: the supermarket or you and I. The income that they earn,

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Speaker 4: which is vast in this case, and as we just heard,

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Speaker 4: and the wealth increased by twenty three billion dollars over

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Speaker 4: the last year, they're paying a lower percentage rate generally

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Speaker 4: than the average working person in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Well you imagine that lower percentage rate on the money

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Speaker 2: that's made.

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Speaker 1: I'm just grateful for what massive.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Hey, I've got a lot of texts today

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Speaker 3: coming in like this, Heather, it's about time you racked

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Speaker 3: up the Green Party. Read Darlene's investigation from Steve Wisdom

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Speaker 3: still held.

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Speaker 2: I looked at that yesterday. I was having a look

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Speaker 2: at that. We don't know where it is. It's still

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Speaker 2: being investigated daily.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, really quickly, what I've gone up in the

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Speaker 1: opinion poll?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, God only knows why.

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Speaker 3: To be fair, would it not be fair to say this?

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Speaker 3: This is because the Green Party's approach to their badly

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Speaker 3: behaved MPs is consistent with their approach to anybody who

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Speaker 3: behaves badly. I mean, this is a party where key

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Speaker 3: members believe we need to get rid of prisons, right,

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Speaker 3: So they're not really tough on anyone, so they can

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Speaker 3: hardly be tough on their own MPs, can they?

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Speaker 2: Well they should be, I think, well anyway.

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Speaker 1: But that's that's what you think.

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Speaker 3: But the support does their supporters love this kind of stuff,

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Speaker 3: chances and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: But they building on that support. So who's giving them additionals?

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Speaker 1: What I'm saying to you that internally consistent? Right, Berry

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Speaker 1: will leave give quick well what we talk about, trum quickly?

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Speaker 1: What did he say quickly, Oh.

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Speaker 2: Trump, Look, I'll tell you what. He started off an

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Speaker 2: email this morning, and they've been talking to the United

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Speaker 2: States how he's sending out a lot of emails at

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Speaker 2: the moment looking for contributions. I got this email. The

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Speaker 2: first three words and it was I love you. I've

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Speaker 2: kid you not. Yes, it's true, he said, So I

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Speaker 2: saved my mega hat just for you. He said, my

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Speaker 2: coveted hat is a bold declaration that you stand with Trump.

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Speaker 2: So if you love me like I love you, I

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Speaker 2: need you to order right now. I went in and

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Speaker 2: had a look at what would take it to order money. Yes,

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Speaker 2: well I didn't say.

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Speaker 1: I didn't over price.

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Speaker 2: I didn't open the email that widely because I thought

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Speaker 2: I might have been trapped into has.

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Speaker 1: Their degrees of wideness with your email your.

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Speaker 2: Mega hats around here? It was maker do and go away.

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Speaker 1: Thanks very very so for senior political correspondence.

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