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Speaker 1: A little bit of angst and otago over water fed

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Speaker 1: farmers think information around new freshwater rules isn't that transparent.

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Speaker 1: They're also fears it's going to end up costing rate

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Speaker 1: payers a lot of money. The former president of Ittiga

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Speaker 1: Federated Farmer, Simon Davies, is with us on the Simon Morning.

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Speaker 2: Good morning.

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Speaker 1: Very well, you're the one who raised the alarm.

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Speaker 2: I guess you could say that a little while ago here.

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Speaker 1: So what's at play here? What they're trying to do

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Speaker 1: is the problem or you just don't know what they're

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Speaker 1: trying to do.

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Speaker 2: Two parts to it. One, we don't really know what

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Speaker 2: they're trying to do. The last version of the plan

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Speaker 2: we saw worried us greatly, but it has gone away

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Speaker 2: and there's been that we believe some moderations, but we

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Speaker 2: don't actually know what. And it's due to be released

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Speaker 2: for notification, which means it becomes law in October. And

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Speaker 2: we are really concerned that the general community has no

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Speaker 2: idea of the costs implications of this proposed plan.

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Speaker 1: Where's the consultation.

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Speaker 2: There was consultation six months ago and since then there

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Speaker 2: haven't been any and that is one of our concerns

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Speaker 2: that they're probably a major concern, And look, what we

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Speaker 2: really want to do is we want to see the

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Speaker 2: costs of this implementation laid out to bear for all

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Speaker 2: rate payers, and I mean putting out using the district councils,

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Speaker 2: putting it across the local newspapers, so all ratepayers know

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Speaker 2: exactly what implications or what costs they are facing.

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Speaker 1: So this is going to come out a lot where

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Speaker 1: they're going to publish this and go, here's the bill,

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Speaker 1: here's what we're doing, and everyone's going to go, what

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Speaker 1: what happened there?

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Speaker 2: Well, what I suspect is it's not going to be published.

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Speaker 2: The rules are going to be in place, and it's

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Speaker 2: going to be this is what you're paying.

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Speaker 1: So you're claiming one hundred and ten million for a

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Speaker 1: couple of small towns. That's more than fifty thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: a ratepayer. There's no way they're going to do that.

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Speaker 2: It would be nice to say that, but from what

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Speaker 2: we understand, that's what the implications mean. That those numbers

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Speaker 2: we got were from one of the district councils in Otago,

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Speaker 2: and you would expect that they would have done some

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Speaker 2: numbers and have some ideas, but Joe Publics doesn't know this,

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Speaker 2: and that's one of the points I challenged the district

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Speaker 2: councils and the regional councils to get together and put

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Speaker 2: this stuff out into the public domain for people to

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Speaker 2: be able to make informed discussions and have informed and

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Speaker 2: make informed assume.

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Speaker 1: When when you say councils you use the plural, are

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Speaker 1: there too many councils involved?

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Speaker 2: Well, it's Otago has five district councils and one regional council.

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Speaker 1: That it's about a councilor wouldn't it.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's a that's a separate discussion that I practiced,

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Speaker 2: shouldn't be getting into at this point in time.

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Speaker 1: Let's not wind ourselves up on a Friday, Simon, I

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Speaker 1: wish you the best. Listen. We'll see where this one goes.

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Speaker 1: But at fifty thousand dollars per rate payer, there's none

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Speaker 1: that's one thousand dollars a week. No one's doing that.

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Speaker 1: Simon Davis, former president of Attago Federated Farmers. For more

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