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Speaker 2: and the show is coming to you from Eden Park,

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Speaker 2: scene of Test two of the All Black season tonight

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Speaker 2: just after seven, England again the opponent. We build towards

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Speaker 2: that Test match this afternoon. It is a cracking day

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Speaker 2: in Auckland, absolutely beautiful, and the forecast is for much

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Speaker 2: of the same over the next seven to ten hours

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Speaker 2: or so. So in terms of conditions that will greet

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Speaker 2: the forty seven thousand fans who are scheduled to also

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Speaker 2: at ten tonight. They could not be better. It is

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Speaker 2: going to be a beautiful night for a big, big

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Speaker 2: rugby test. Eden Park as always looking an absolute picture.

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Speaker 2: Looking down now on the grass, the ground staff are

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Speaker 2: RFU CEO Bill Sweeney. He is here following the England

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Speaker 1: Cutting down to All Blacks v England on your Home

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Speaker 2: News Talksibby second test of Razes rain tonight, Eden Park,

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Speaker 2: Talks EDB Elliott Smith and Frank Bunce in the commentary box.

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Speaker 2: I'll wander up and down the sideline and get a

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Speaker 2: close up view. So a build up begins from six

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Speaker 2: with kickoff just after seven o'clock. England are again the opponent.

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Speaker 2: Penaly holding on the right.

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Speaker 4: Golding properly was a man. They caught the pennery and

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Speaker 4: now the Old Blacks need just to get it into touts.

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Speaker 4: Everyone needs to take a eighth breath. Damien McKenzie texts

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I're gonna see more of the same tonight. Let's

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Speaker 2: Mills Mullyana is with us Mills, how different a Test

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Speaker 5: Oh.

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Speaker 6: I think it'll be a couple of changes really Obviously.

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Speaker 6: The first test meents last week is a little bit

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Speaker 6: I mean, the big positives for the All Blacks is

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Speaker 2: You talked about solutions there and I guess England's rush

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Speaker 6: it often comes back also to the playing on the

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Speaker 6: I think from a technical point of view, you'll probably

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Speaker 7: They hit the lineouts.

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Speaker 6: And that was that was pretty evident last week that

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Speaker 2: Just the one enforced change for the All Blacks with

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Speaker 2: How impreved were you with him last week?

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Speaker 6: I was really impressed, was Steve given the fact that

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Speaker 6: It's just it's just about time in the settle, really

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Speaker 2: About Damian McKenzie mills. What would his week have consisted

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Speaker 6: Oh, I think he was. He was pretty tough. One

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Speaker 6: aspect is that that's been talked about. It's obviously quicking

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Speaker 8: But I.

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Speaker 6: I think you know he'll want to, but clean aboard.

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Speaker 6: There's definitely opportunities out there. And again the combinations coming together,

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Speaker 6: that's that's your mindset changes to attack and that's the

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Speaker 2: Well likely to see a Test day both for Cortes

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Speaker 2: off the bench tonight, how do you assess his ability

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Speaker 6: You know, an awesome, fantastic that Courtiers gets an opportunity.

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Speaker 6: Yes it is off the back end of TJ being injured,

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Speaker 6: but he's got real energy and you know, often in

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Speaker 6: those half opportunities, he'll go out there if he gets

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Speaker 6: an opportunity and your passon delivered. He's got a very

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Speaker 6: good pass But sometimes when when you're that young and

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Speaker 6: you're enthusiastic, I mean, you have to look on the

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Speaker 2: Tom and Mills, thanks for your preview. Made always love

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Speaker 6: Yeah, great cheating painting, good on you mate.

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Speaker 2: Thanks indeed that's Mills mullyana there with his thoughts. Yours

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Speaker 2: What would have been the biggest areas of focus for

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Speaker 2: just feels like England's chance was last weekend. So who

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Speaker 2: that too, oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. You can

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Speaker 2: to Jason at NEWSTALKSEB dot co dot Nz. Twelve twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Twelve twenty seven, taking your calls live from Eden Park

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Speaker 2: as we build towards tonight's second Test between the All

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Speaker 2: to the calls in just a second. Piney, When or

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Speaker 2: what is the actual trigger of the kicktimer? Very good question.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, good buddy.

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Speaker 10: Unfortunately I'm not on a plane today, but never mind.

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Speaker 2: Well, well I can tell you if you were Mark,

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Speaker 10: The two points j So, first of all, the last

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Speaker 11: Was when Greg corn Nelson scored the four tries against the.

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Speaker 2: All Bracks seventy eight or something like that, seventy six

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Speaker 10: Yeah yeah, yep. You just put that point up again

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Speaker 11: I googled it last week. I couldn't get on on Google.

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Speaker 10: It actually states the shot clock starts when the player

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Speaker 2: Now yeah that's right. Yeah, I mean you know what

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Speaker 2: I can see the green seat where they've they've made

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Speaker 8: Yeah, how are you?

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Speaker 12: Why don't that change the kicker to Bowden?

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Speaker 13: He's in the team, bring him.

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Speaker 14: Forward and use him as the main kicker.

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Speaker 2: because they all practice obviously, Geordie a week practicing, so

431
00:21:51,147 --> 00:21:53,827
Speaker 2: will Damien, so will Stephen Petti, Fedner probably and Bowden

432
00:21:53,867 --> 00:21:56,147
Speaker 2: for when he comes on, and they just decide, okay,

433
00:21:56,147 --> 00:21:58,507
Speaker 2: who's taking the kicks? And I get the feeling the

434
00:21:58,547 --> 00:22:00,307
Speaker 2: first kick that gets lined up tonight or with Damien

435
00:22:00,387 --> 00:22:01,027
Speaker 2: McKenzie again.

436
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Speaker 15: Of course, he actually missed quite a few last week,

437
00:22:07,227 --> 00:22:09,667
Speaker 15: and they were ever so close. We kept on saying,

438
00:22:09,707 --> 00:22:14,947
Speaker 15: looking at the tally hocket for and I think they

439
00:22:15,067 --> 00:22:18,427
Speaker 15: need to possibly rotate if he starts missing again, they

440
00:22:18,507 --> 00:22:20,587
Speaker 15: need to definitely rotate the kickers.

441
00:22:21,347 --> 00:22:24,267
Speaker 2: Yeah, the ones he missed last week, Ellen were sideline conversions,

442
00:22:24,267 --> 00:22:26,147
Speaker 2: weren't they, So perhaps we can let him off those.

443
00:22:27,387 --> 00:22:28,987
Speaker 2: And then there was obviously the one that got timed out,

444
00:22:29,027 --> 00:22:32,027
Speaker 2: which won't happen again. So yeah, I think they'll, like

445
00:22:32,147 --> 00:22:34,387
Speaker 2: I say, I think he'll he'll be there from the

446
00:22:34,427 --> 00:22:36,987
Speaker 2: start tonight when they get the first opportunity. And if,

447
00:22:37,267 --> 00:22:40,027
Speaker 2: as you say, if things aren't going well, it's nice

448
00:22:40,067 --> 00:22:41,827
Speaker 2: to have a fallback option. The other thing that Jordy

449
00:22:41,867 --> 00:22:44,427
Speaker 2: Barrett has, of course, is greater distance. So if they

450
00:22:44,507 --> 00:22:46,187
Speaker 2: got a penalty on halfway they want to have a shot.

451
00:22:46,507 --> 00:22:49,187
Speaker 2: Might be Jordy Barrett who steps up rather than Damien McKenzie.

452
00:22:50,867 --> 00:22:54,187
Speaker 15: Yeah, but he doesn't have to only take the long shots, like,

453
00:22:54,307 --> 00:22:56,147
Speaker 15: if he's more consistent, use them.

454
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Speaker 14: We're there to win.

455
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Speaker 2: Very good point, Yep, yep, very good point. Ellen. We'll

456
00:23:01,267 --> 00:23:04,227
Speaker 2: wait and see what happens tonight. Mate, as I say,

457
00:23:04,667 --> 00:23:06,307
Speaker 2: the resk of repeating myself like I get the fair

458
00:23:06,467 --> 00:23:08,787
Speaker 2: it'll be Damien McKenzie from the start tonight. I don't

459
00:23:08,827 --> 00:23:11,507
Speaker 2: think they'll change that from last week, even with the

460
00:23:11,587 --> 00:23:14,907
Speaker 2: two missed conversions. I don't see that there'll be a

461
00:23:15,027 --> 00:23:18,267
Speaker 2: change necessarily made. But Jeorlie Barrett, you know good goalkicker

462
00:23:18,947 --> 00:23:21,467
Speaker 2: Stephen Petefetter. I saw him taking some shots at goal

463
00:23:21,787 --> 00:23:25,107
Speaker 2: during the captain's run yesterday. Same for Bodham Barrett. So

464
00:23:25,187 --> 00:23:30,147
Speaker 2: there are goalkicking options there if need be. Surely the

465
00:23:30,227 --> 00:23:32,907
Speaker 2: kicker won't see that on the screen. Isn't it just

466
00:23:33,067 --> 00:23:35,667
Speaker 2: merely another distraction from kicking? Wouldn't it be better to

467
00:23:35,747 --> 00:23:39,507
Speaker 2: have audio a beeping sound that changes pitch as it

468
00:23:39,587 --> 00:23:41,987
Speaker 2: gets closer to the end. That's not a bad point.

469
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Speaker 2: I think it's just a glance up though, isn't it.

470
00:23:44,747 --> 00:23:47,307
Speaker 2: It's just a glance up to say, all twelve seconds,

471
00:23:48,307 --> 00:23:52,587
Speaker 2: I'm on track. It's just a visual cue for him

472
00:23:52,667 --> 00:23:55,547
Speaker 2: rather than just an estimation in their minds. And I

473
00:23:55,587 --> 00:23:58,347
Speaker 2: know a lot of people have said, yes, the referee

474
00:23:58,467 --> 00:24:01,467
Speaker 2: last week was telling Damien McKenzie, you've got twenty, you've

475
00:24:01,467 --> 00:24:04,027
Speaker 2: got ten, but I don't reckon. He heard him. We

476
00:24:04,187 --> 00:24:05,707
Speaker 2: hear that through the effects, Mike, if you listening on

477
00:24:05,747 --> 00:24:08,067
Speaker 2: the radio or on television, we hear that because the

478
00:24:08,107 --> 00:24:11,067
Speaker 2: reef is micd up. I don't reckon. Damien McKenzie heard him.

479
00:24:11,587 --> 00:24:14,147
Speaker 2: I really don't. How are you, James?

480
00:24:15,107 --> 00:24:15,307
Speaker 16: Yeah?

481
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Speaker 3: Good?

482
00:24:16,227 --> 00:24:18,147
Speaker 7: I mean last week as well. But I'm one of

483
00:24:18,187 --> 00:24:22,667
Speaker 7: the most iconic memories I have of Eden Park. There's

484
00:24:23,307 --> 00:24:28,427
Speaker 7: nine eighty one spring Box the test there, Yes, the

485
00:24:28,507 --> 00:24:31,387
Speaker 7: Garrant Knight being knocked out by a flower bomb. That

486
00:24:31,547 --> 00:24:34,507
Speaker 7: had all the drama. The country was on edge because

487
00:24:34,547 --> 00:24:37,867
Speaker 7: the country was in turmoil. But the winning of that

488
00:24:38,067 --> 00:24:41,747
Speaker 7: game meant a lot to me. Mark Donaldson's quick tap

489
00:24:42,227 --> 00:24:44,667
Speaker 7: led to the penalty for Alan Newston to step up

490
00:24:44,787 --> 00:24:46,867
Speaker 7: got three points on the spring box in the series

491
00:24:47,547 --> 00:24:51,427
Speaker 7: that was just so hero raising. I will never forget that.

492
00:24:51,827 --> 00:24:54,027
Speaker 7: It was one of the best moments in sporting history

493
00:24:54,147 --> 00:24:55,027
Speaker 7: in New Zealand.

494
00:24:54,747 --> 00:24:57,907
Speaker 2: I think because the iconic, iconic stuff.

495
00:24:58,907 --> 00:25:04,307
Speaker 7: Yeah, really good, amazing, amazing end to what was turmoil

496
00:25:04,587 --> 00:25:07,027
Speaker 7: and a test match, a rugby test match series.

497
00:25:08,107 --> 00:25:09,547
Speaker 12: I remember going to.

498
00:25:09,667 --> 00:25:13,347
Speaker 7: Lancaster part to the first Test and walking out of

499
00:25:13,507 --> 00:25:17,747
Speaker 7: the Embankment pub and walking towards the ground and the

500
00:25:17,827 --> 00:25:21,467
Speaker 7: protesters on either side of a shame, shame, shame, and

501
00:25:22,907 --> 00:25:24,947
Speaker 7: we were all doing that. Shame, shame, shame, you're not

502
00:25:25,027 --> 00:25:28,427
Speaker 7: going for the game. It was just thinking back now,

503
00:25:28,747 --> 00:25:32,467
Speaker 7: okay we were divided, but in a way we were

504
00:25:32,507 --> 00:25:34,547
Speaker 7: all united because we were just going to watch the

505
00:25:34,667 --> 00:25:36,187
Speaker 7: springbox getting back into the ground.

506
00:25:37,107 --> 00:25:40,107
Speaker 2: Great memories, James One, not not great memories, but memories,

507
00:25:40,267 --> 00:25:43,347
Speaker 2: iconic memories. As you say, everything rapped around nineteen eighty one,

508
00:25:43,467 --> 00:25:45,667
Speaker 2: just on the rugby. I remember Alan Houston when he

509
00:25:45,667 --> 00:25:47,387
Speaker 2: stepped up to take that cat because he missed a

510
00:25:47,427 --> 00:25:49,987
Speaker 2: couple and he hadn't been great. Even the commentator. I

511
00:25:49,987 --> 00:25:53,267
Speaker 2: remember that the radio commentator then from memory was John Howson,

512
00:25:53,547 --> 00:25:55,707
Speaker 2: and I remember John Howson saying something to the effect

513
00:25:55,747 --> 00:26:00,107
Speaker 2: of Alan Houston. You've made mistakes all day. Now now

514
00:26:00,147 --> 00:26:01,227
Speaker 2: it's your chance to be a hero.

515
00:26:01,507 --> 00:26:04,507
Speaker 7: And he was, and the way he punched the air

516
00:26:04,587 --> 00:26:06,307
Speaker 7: at the end, it was like a big relief.

517
00:26:11,627 --> 00:26:14,627
Speaker 2: Yeah, good stuff, James, Yeah, it really was. I'm getting

518
00:26:14,667 --> 00:26:16,827
Speaker 2: I'm getting goosebumps even just talking about it with you.

519
00:26:17,427 --> 00:26:19,107
Speaker 2: I listened to that game on the radio. Would have

520
00:26:19,147 --> 00:26:20,547
Speaker 2: been eighty one. I would have been ten years old.

521
00:26:20,867 --> 00:26:22,627
Speaker 2: I remember I listened to it on the radio and

522
00:26:22,707 --> 00:26:27,867
Speaker 2: then went out to the back garden and recreated it all.

523
00:26:28,707 --> 00:26:28,867
Speaker 17: You know.

524
00:26:29,107 --> 00:26:32,787
Speaker 2: That's that was the power of it. And I say

525
00:26:32,827 --> 00:26:35,147
Speaker 2: this a lot on the show, but I can't remember

526
00:26:35,947 --> 00:26:39,507
Speaker 2: quite big details of last week, and I don't always

527
00:26:39,547 --> 00:26:41,827
Speaker 2: remember which day the bins go out, but I can

528
00:26:41,947 --> 00:26:45,547
Speaker 2: remember sporting events from nineteen eighty one, just like you can, James.

529
00:26:46,307 --> 00:26:46,947
Speaker 2: How are you, Peter?

530
00:26:48,107 --> 00:26:52,347
Speaker 18: Oh good ada, Jacent. I like to recall when England

531
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Speaker 18: did when at eden Park sevent in September seventy three, Yeah,

532
00:26:59,227 --> 00:27:00,747
Speaker 18: sixteen ten from.

533
00:27:00,787 --> 00:27:02,867
Speaker 2: From not from memory, but I had a look at

534
00:27:02,907 --> 00:27:05,267
Speaker 2: this during the week, Peter, sixteen ten. Were you you

535
00:27:05,387 --> 00:27:06,827
Speaker 2: were to eden parkins tventy three?

536
00:27:06,867 --> 00:27:07,107
Speaker 19: Were you?

537
00:27:07,827 --> 00:27:08,147
Speaker 16: No? No?

538
00:27:08,387 --> 00:27:10,667
Speaker 18: But I was at the game and the Athletic Park

539
00:27:10,827 --> 00:27:14,347
Speaker 18: on the fifth of September when we beat the England

540
00:27:14,427 --> 00:27:22,227
Speaker 18: team twenty five sixteen, and that team, the England team

541
00:27:22,307 --> 00:27:26,467
Speaker 18: actually played four games on the tour and they only

542
00:27:26,547 --> 00:27:32,747
Speaker 18: won one game and they lost three and that one

543
00:27:33,027 --> 00:27:39,867
Speaker 18: was just out of the clouds. Really. The England team, well.

544
00:27:39,747 --> 00:27:42,747
Speaker 2: They've only won twice in New Zealand, Peter, that's the

545
00:27:42,987 --> 00:27:46,227
Speaker 2: crazy thing. They've only beaten the Billblacks twice, that one

546
00:27:46,267 --> 00:27:48,587
Speaker 2: you're talking about. And then a game you might have

547
00:27:48,667 --> 00:27:51,347
Speaker 2: also been at in two thousand and three at Sky

548
00:27:51,507 --> 00:27:54,987
Speaker 2: Stadium or Westpac Stadium as well, was there fifteen thirteen

549
00:27:55,227 --> 00:27:57,227
Speaker 2: and England at one point only had thirteen guys on

550
00:27:57,307 --> 00:27:57,667
Speaker 2: the field.

551
00:27:59,027 --> 00:28:05,627
Speaker 18: Yes, quite incredible to bring up these things. I remember

552
00:28:05,747 --> 00:28:09,267
Speaker 18: Grant Grant Batty scored a try in the test that

553
00:28:09,387 --> 00:28:13,867
Speaker 18: we lost for New Zealand. But yeah, we had an

554
00:28:13,907 --> 00:28:14,827
Speaker 18: off day that day.

555
00:28:16,347 --> 00:28:19,387
Speaker 2: Well what happens, Peter, doesn't it? Everybody has an off day.

556
00:28:19,667 --> 00:28:23,187
Speaker 2: Do you expect there to be history made tonight? Can

557
00:28:23,227 --> 00:28:25,667
Speaker 2: you see England winning again as they did back in

558
00:28:25,787 --> 00:28:27,827
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy three out here at Eden Park?

559
00:28:29,587 --> 00:28:34,587
Speaker 18: No, I reckon that we've we've learnt our lesson we're

560
00:28:34,627 --> 00:28:39,347
Speaker 18: always slow on the on the first test of a season,

561
00:28:39,427 --> 00:28:43,147
Speaker 18: and I reckon, we've learned our mistakes and we'll we'll win.

562
00:28:44,387 --> 00:28:48,427
Speaker 18: The England losing that good fallback they had last time

563
00:28:48,547 --> 00:28:52,867
Speaker 18: too is a bit of a you know that that

564
00:28:52,987 --> 00:28:55,747
Speaker 18: will suffer a little bit there, But anyway, I'm an

565
00:28:55,827 --> 00:28:58,267
Speaker 18: All Black supporter and we're going to win.

566
00:28:58,827 --> 00:29:01,387
Speaker 2: Good Man, Peter, always good to chat to you. Thanks. Indeed,

567
00:29:03,107 --> 00:29:05,267
Speaker 2: somebody asked, Chris asks, what happens if the wind blows

568
00:29:05,307 --> 00:29:08,747
Speaker 2: the ball over? As I read it in the rules

569
00:29:09,027 --> 00:29:12,147
Speaker 2: that the clock doesn't stop. So if the ball is

570
00:29:12,147 --> 00:29:14,827
Speaker 2: blown off the tea, the time it takes to put

571
00:29:14,867 --> 00:29:17,987
Speaker 2: it back on the tea is included in the sixty seconds.

572
00:29:18,467 --> 00:29:24,267
Speaker 2: So that's another little layer of interest. Twelve thirty nine

573
00:29:24,347 --> 00:29:26,547
Speaker 2: oh eight hundred and eighty ten to eighty calls are

574
00:29:26,547 --> 00:29:27,827
Speaker 2: coming in, but there is a spare line if you

575
00:29:27,867 --> 00:29:31,107
Speaker 2: want to jump aboard any aspective tonight, anything you learned

576
00:29:31,187 --> 00:29:33,347
Speaker 2: last week, or anything that worries you about what you

577
00:29:33,427 --> 00:29:36,947
Speaker 2: saw last week or inspires you with confidence. No changes

578
00:29:36,987 --> 00:29:38,947
Speaker 2: to the All Black side, apart from the enforced change

579
00:29:39,227 --> 00:29:41,627
Speaker 2: at half back. How do you reckon Finlay? Christie you'll go.

580
00:29:41,907 --> 00:29:44,347
Speaker 2: How do you reckon courties? What Artima might go in

581
00:29:44,507 --> 00:29:47,707
Speaker 2: his test day boot tonight, which is almost inevitable, very

582
00:29:47,827 --> 00:29:49,587
Speaker 2: rare for a half back to play eighty minutes, and

583
00:29:49,667 --> 00:29:51,987
Speaker 2: you think Cortes would get on at some point? Chiefs

584
00:29:52,027 --> 00:29:54,187
Speaker 2: fans in particular, what have you seen from your man

585
00:29:54,267 --> 00:29:56,667
Speaker 2: that inspires you with confidence that he'll make a good

586
00:29:56,707 --> 00:29:59,187
Speaker 2: fist of his test day boot tonight? More calls after

587
00:29:59,227 --> 00:30:01,347
Speaker 2: this twenty to one come into your life from eden Park.

588
00:30:02,147 --> 00:30:05,067
Speaker 1: Counting Towns to all Blacks v England on your home

589
00:30:05,147 --> 00:30:08,907
Speaker 1: of sort in the sport My from eden Park with

590
00:30:09,187 --> 00:30:13,067
Speaker 1: Jason five and GJ. Gardner Homes New Zealand's most trusted

591
00:30:13,147 --> 00:30:15,227
Speaker 1: home builder used dog Zibby.

592
00:30:15,507 --> 00:30:18,867
Speaker 2: Seventeen to one. What asks this text if it takes

593
00:30:18,867 --> 00:30:20,787
Speaker 2: a long time to get the tea out, Yeah, that's

594
00:30:20,827 --> 00:30:23,267
Speaker 2: part of it. That's part of it. So you've got

595
00:30:23,387 --> 00:30:25,507
Speaker 2: to be quick, said last week. You need to get

596
00:30:26,067 --> 00:30:28,627
Speaker 2: Zoe Hobbs to sprint it out there. She'll be in

597
00:30:28,707 --> 00:30:32,347
Speaker 2: Paris at the moment preparing for the Olympics or somewhere nearby. Hello, Carlos,

598
00:30:33,307 --> 00:30:33,867
Speaker 2: you after them?

599
00:30:33,907 --> 00:30:34,187
Speaker 8: Piney?

600
00:30:34,227 --> 00:30:34,947
Speaker 19: How are you good?

601
00:30:34,987 --> 00:30:35,467
Speaker 2: Thank you mate?

602
00:30:36,227 --> 00:30:40,427
Speaker 8: Good looking forward to tonight and Jabs. Of course. I've

603
00:30:40,427 --> 00:30:42,347
Speaker 8: got a couple of memories about the Garden of Eden.

604
00:30:43,107 --> 00:30:46,227
Speaker 8: They're both losses. The first one was I think it

605
00:30:46,307 --> 00:30:49,707
Speaker 8: was seventy three. The English came over here and they

606
00:30:49,787 --> 00:30:52,867
Speaker 8: lost every blooming game and they won one, and that

607
00:30:52,987 --> 00:30:54,307
Speaker 8: was the test metch against us.

608
00:30:54,787 --> 00:30:57,107
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was someone Peter was just talking about. Yeah,

609
00:30:57,147 --> 00:31:01,267
Speaker 2: sixteen ten no, no, no, no, it's good to you.

610
00:31:01,347 --> 00:31:03,707
Speaker 2: Good to have a reinforced ah.

611
00:31:03,707 --> 00:31:06,107
Speaker 8: Right, yeah, and I think that was Laurie Manz's day,

612
00:31:06,627 --> 00:31:11,147
Speaker 8: to be honest, Bobb Ingram I can't remember, sorry, Bobby

613
00:31:11,147 --> 00:31:14,947
Speaker 8: Livingrindam or Lourie Mains anyway. The next one I've got

614
00:31:15,147 --> 00:31:20,307
Speaker 8: is nineteen seventy nine. I broke a wrist and in

615
00:31:20,387 --> 00:31:24,547
Speaker 8: the morning and had to go to Auckland Hospital. Anyway,

616
00:31:24,627 --> 00:31:26,427
Speaker 8: long story short, they did that. They took me to

617
00:31:26,507 --> 00:31:29,747
Speaker 8: an ambulance to Eden part and it was best steel

618
00:31:29,907 --> 00:31:33,067
Speaker 8: day and the French beat us for the first time

619
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Speaker 8: over here. And to be honest, I've never stood up

620
00:31:37,307 --> 00:31:39,827
Speaker 8: and clapped the opposition. And they came round to the

621
00:31:39,907 --> 00:31:42,227
Speaker 8: lap of honor. I'll never forget a Jean Pierre Reeve

622
00:31:42,307 --> 00:31:45,907
Speaker 8: and it was just incredible and I don't think too

623
00:31:45,947 --> 00:31:49,867
Speaker 8: many people left the ground and discussed. It was just

624
00:31:50,027 --> 00:31:52,307
Speaker 8: amazing and it was best still day for the French.

625
00:31:52,827 --> 00:31:54,587
Speaker 2: So hang on, So you hang on. What was the

626
00:31:54,627 --> 00:31:56,547
Speaker 2: first part of that story? You were in hospital and

627
00:31:56,587 --> 00:31:58,667
Speaker 2: then what they gave you a lift to the ground.

628
00:31:59,467 --> 00:32:01,907
Speaker 8: I was, yes, correct, I broke a wrist and they

629
00:32:01,987 --> 00:32:05,667
Speaker 8: went in there and my father said, you know, we

630
00:32:05,787 --> 00:32:08,107
Speaker 8: were like, you know, going to Headon Park and anyway,

631
00:32:08,787 --> 00:32:11,307
Speaker 8: they reset my wrist and everything like that got them

632
00:32:11,387 --> 00:32:14,147
Speaker 8: plays through and all the ball shite, and they took

633
00:32:14,187 --> 00:32:16,147
Speaker 8: me in the hangulments because.

634
00:32:16,387 --> 00:32:20,187
Speaker 19: To the bloody ground them back, I know, I know.

635
00:32:20,547 --> 00:32:22,867
Speaker 19: So I went straight and dad Dad had to drive

636
00:32:22,907 --> 00:32:25,507
Speaker 19: a bloody car and get back whatever. But I got

637
00:32:25,587 --> 00:32:28,387
Speaker 19: I got shunted straight isn't there And they had the

638
00:32:28,467 --> 00:32:30,747
Speaker 19: tickets and they took me to miss and everything.

639
00:32:30,867 --> 00:32:32,427
Speaker 8: It was just unbelievable.

640
00:32:32,667 --> 00:32:35,507
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's best, It's best the best deal day tomorrow

641
00:32:35,987 --> 00:32:36,667
Speaker 2: July fourteen.

642
00:32:38,627 --> 00:32:40,227
Speaker 8: I wasn't too sure the day whether it was the

643
00:32:40,467 --> 00:32:42,387
Speaker 8: seventeenth fourteenth was it? Well, there you go and they

644
00:32:42,387 --> 00:32:43,747
Speaker 8: have a look at that. It was best Steel Day

645
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Speaker 8: in nineteen seventy nine, so was.

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Speaker 2: There forty five years ago tomorrow incredible.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and it was the French and talking about the

648
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Speaker 8: French betterest the last time there you go, and it's ironic,

649
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Speaker 8: you know, the last time to bet I said it

650
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Speaker 8: was the garden of Edam. So there you go.

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Speaker 2: God on your calors. Great to chat my love chatting

652
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Speaker 2: love chatting with you. Enjoy the game tonight. Oh one

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Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten, you get a carl Hello.

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Speaker 20: Buye you so mate. I think if you look at

655
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Speaker 20: last week's game, England went quite well because they had

656
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Speaker 20: quite a dominant scrum. That's the only time there second

657
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Speaker 20: five looked. Okay, I don't rate them as an international

658
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Speaker 20: second five, but yeah, going going hard up in the

659
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Speaker 20: scrum kind of gave England that front foot fourth once

660
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Speaker 20: Joe Miler came off the field, and I think he's

661
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Speaker 20: an exceptional scrummer. There was a bit more parody and

662
00:33:43,867 --> 00:33:47,787
Speaker 20: you saw that Damie McKenzie was obviously trying to run

663
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Speaker 20: it a bit more.

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Speaker 3: So.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, I'm interested to see how the New Zealand scrum goes,

666
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Speaker 20: whether they can actually be dominant. This will set the

667
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Speaker 20: platform for how well New Zealand go tonight. If they

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Speaker 20: have more parity in the scrum.

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Speaker 2: I actually thought they were good for for periods of

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Speaker 2: last week. In the scrum, Carl, I think early was.

671
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Speaker 2: I think the first scrum there was a scrum penalty

672
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Speaker 2: against New Zealand from memory. And you're right about Joe Marhler.

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Speaker 2: He's a he's a gnally front row ford who knows

674
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Speaker 2: his way around a scrum. When he went off and

675
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Speaker 2: actually when from Bexter came on for what I think

676
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Speaker 2: was his debut, he was okay too. But what they

677
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Speaker 2: all say, don't they It starts up front?

678
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Speaker 20: Yeah, Well this is it. I think it's very important

679
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Speaker 20: to see how these young lad the groups and Lomac,

680
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Speaker 20: to see how well they go that. You know, you

681
00:34:45,667 --> 00:34:48,067
Speaker 20: haven't got time to settle in. You've got to actually

682
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Speaker 20: be going the first scrum. You've got to be right

683
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Speaker 20: up and in your face. But this is not a

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Speaker 20: timpy where game, someone.

685
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Speaker 2: Said, Room Munger, his famous word scale. You're right, this

686
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Speaker 2: ain't tilly wings and it won't be out here on

687
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Speaker 2: Eden Park tonight. Thanks for your call, Carl, Hello Bob,

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Speaker 2: how are you Yeah?

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Speaker 21: Your previous caller answered part of my question basically getting

690
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Speaker 21: the tea out to the out to the kicker yes,

691
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Speaker 21: somebody said that last time that for that kick that

692
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Speaker 21: he was timed out, it took about twenty seconds before

693
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Speaker 21: before he had the tea in his hand. You remember

694
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Speaker 21: anything about that?

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Speaker 17: I do?

696
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Speaker 6: I do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I had a look at it. I kind of

698
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Speaker 2: forensically examined it last week, Bob, to look at timings.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think from my account and from my memory

700
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Speaker 2: of a week ago, Damian McKenzie had the ball on

701
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Speaker 2: the tee until forty seconds.

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Speaker 21: Because I looked, I actually timed it myself from the

703
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Speaker 21: you know, I recorded the match and looked at it after,

704
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Speaker 21: and I reckon he was timed out about two with

705
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Speaker 21: about two seconds to go. But that was only from

706
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Speaker 21: the clock on the you know, the time o'clock on

707
00:35:49,707 --> 00:35:51,707
Speaker 21: the field. I don't know that could have been stops

708
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Speaker 21: and gaps and things in it, but I recorded it

709
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Speaker 21: had happened, and I reckon he was two shirt two

710
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Speaker 21: seconds early. But who's responsible to getting the tea out

711
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Speaker 21: to the kicker?

712
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Speaker 2: The tea carrier? Look and you know, like you know,

713
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Speaker 2: they had the water boys, don't they The players who

714
00:36:07,427 --> 00:36:10,867
Speaker 2: aren't involved in the twenty three Bob, somebody gets that responsibility,

715
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Speaker 2: so it'll be somebody outside the All Blacks twenty three

716
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Speaker 2: who who has the responsibility of getting the tea out

717
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Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what, with what happened last week,

718
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Speaker 2: they will be sprinting with all their might, Yeah, to

719
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Speaker 2: get it out there, he said.

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Speaker 21: But it'll be somebody.

721
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Speaker 22: It will be.

722
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Speaker 21: I mean, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but it will

723
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Speaker 21: be somebody who is an All Black supporter rather than

724
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Speaker 21: an English supporter, you know their own.

725
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Speaker 2: It's not just an All Black supporter, Bob, but somebody

726
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Speaker 2: from within the camp.

727
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Speaker 19: Yeah.

728
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Speaker 2: They'd be interesting to have a neutral, wouldn't it, and

729
00:36:48,067 --> 00:36:50,467
Speaker 2: see if they know mysteriously pulled a hamstring on the

730
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Speaker 2: way out, if they didn't want one of the other

731
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Speaker 2: kickers to get it over. I had a great suggestion

732
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Speaker 2: last week. I think it was either last Sunday or

733
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Speaker 2: on Monday night Sports Talk, that the referee have the

734
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Speaker 2: tea and wear it as a hat so it's always

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Speaker 2: out there.

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Speaker 19: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I can't see it happening. Confidence levels. I am make

738
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Speaker 2: confidence levels tonight.

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Speaker 12: Oh yeah, pretty good. It'll be interesting overall. I think

740
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Speaker 12: it'll be just interesting to see how the team adapts

741
00:37:20,867 --> 00:37:26,907
Speaker 12: under under Racers, Rangers, Raiders, coaching, you know, just to

742
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Speaker 12: get past the defense and it'll be interesting to see

743
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Speaker 12: whether he can make a change. He certainly made a

744
00:37:32,707 --> 00:37:34,947
Speaker 12: change as far as the clock on the on the

745
00:37:34,947 --> 00:37:37,907
Speaker 12: school board went pretty fast, didn't he. I just want

746
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Speaker 12: to if I can.

747
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Speaker 14: Say one thing to you finally about it, maybe yours,

748
00:37:42,787 --> 00:37:47,387
Speaker 14: Miles Davis. It's going to be the most disloyal football

749
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Speaker 14: fan I've ever heard. He said it'd rather Spain win

750
00:37:51,947 --> 00:37:55,067
Speaker 14: the UEA cap than England the way England's playing, and

751
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Speaker 14: I'm just thinking it doesn't make me feel too bad

752
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Speaker 14: as a sports fan in New Zealand teams.

753
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Speaker 2: I've seen those comments from him as well. I think

754
00:38:04,027 --> 00:38:06,147
Speaker 2: I don't Mark. I think it'd be fair to say

755
00:38:06,747 --> 00:38:09,307
Speaker 2: our mate Miles Davis is not the biggest fan of

756
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Speaker 2: Gareth Southgate. I think that's what's at the heart of this.

757
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Speaker 23: But I mean, I mean, you know better than anyway.

758
00:38:16,987 --> 00:38:19,867
Speaker 23: But it's like you've got to be kidding me. You

759
00:38:19,947 --> 00:38:22,707
Speaker 23: mean you'd want to see the downfall of their coach

760
00:38:22,907 --> 00:38:25,187
Speaker 23: rather than your team went to the first time and

761
00:38:25,747 --> 00:38:28,867
Speaker 23: what sixty or seventy years you know, Come on, then,

762
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Speaker 23: come on, Miles, skin on board me bring it home in.

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Speaker 2: England sports fandom does funny things to people. Mark good

764
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Speaker 2: on your mate, great to ched as always. Nine Away

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Speaker 2: from One News talks edby.

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Speaker 1: Live from Eden Park on your home of Sport Weekend

767
00:38:44,387 --> 00:38:48,587
Speaker 1: Sport with Jason Pive and tg under Hooves, New Zealand's

768
00:38:48,587 --> 00:38:49,787
Speaker 1: most trusted homebuilder.

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Speaker 2: News talk zedby just on five and a half Away

770
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Speaker 2: from One. We'll open the lines again after one o'clock.

771
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Speaker 2: Straight after the one o'clock news though, we're joined by

772
00:38:57,347 --> 00:39:01,307
Speaker 2: Bill Sweeney. He is the CEO of the RF You so,

773
00:39:01,467 --> 00:39:03,027
Speaker 2: as I said at the top of the show, effectively

774
00:39:03,107 --> 00:39:07,467
Speaker 2: Mark Robinson's counterpart with England Rugby. He's going to join

775
00:39:07,547 --> 00:39:09,427
Speaker 2: us for a chat about all sorts of things really,

776
00:39:09,867 --> 00:39:12,587
Speaker 2: the issues facing the global game, how much alignment there

777
00:39:12,707 --> 00:39:17,147
Speaker 2: is between Northern Hemisphere and Southern Hemisphere rugby thinking and

778
00:39:17,547 --> 00:39:20,307
Speaker 2: whether he thinks and I'm sure he does, England can

779
00:39:20,347 --> 00:39:23,427
Speaker 2: break this thirty year who do at Eden Park? And

780
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Speaker 2: in square this two match series tonight. A couple of

781
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Speaker 2: texts before we go to the news. Ponte, I'm a

782
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Speaker 2: chief supporter, so maybe only looking at this with one

783
00:39:30,067 --> 00:39:32,467
Speaker 2: eye open, but surely it must have been a thought

784
00:39:32,507 --> 00:39:35,907
Speaker 2: in the coach's mind to start Cortez tonight, having him

785
00:39:35,947 --> 00:39:39,507
Speaker 2: played such a long time alongside Damien McKenzie. There's nothing

786
00:39:39,627 --> 00:39:41,987
Speaker 2: like having a partnership anyway. We'll see him when he

787
00:39:42,027 --> 00:39:44,467
Speaker 2: gets on the field. Hopefully he plays a blinder and

788
00:39:44,547 --> 00:39:47,067
Speaker 2: gets the next game starting as opposed to being off

789
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Speaker 2: the bench. Just my thoughts win and they're good thoughts,

790
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Speaker 2: and I think that's whatd have had to have come

791
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Speaker 2: into their minds. Tough to throw them in in such

792
00:39:55,827 --> 00:39:58,547
Speaker 2: a big Test on his debut. I get the partnership thing,

793
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Speaker 2: and I really think I'm so looking forward to seeing

794
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Speaker 2: Cortes allow to make it on tonight, and I think

795
00:40:03,027 --> 00:40:04,667
Speaker 2: you're right. I think he may well get the start

796
00:40:05,267 --> 00:40:07,827
Speaker 2: next week against Fiji in San Diego. They might do

797
00:40:07,907 --> 00:40:10,587
Speaker 2: a swap and have Christy come off the bench, or

798
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Speaker 2: I guess they feasibly could give Noah Hotham a Test

799
00:40:14,427 --> 00:40:18,107
Speaker 2: deboo next weekend, couldn't they. I think they're more likely

800
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Speaker 2: to stick to Latima and Christy given they are the

801
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Speaker 2: two halfbacks who were selected initially, but it's not beyond

802
00:40:24,107 --> 00:40:26,827
Speaker 2: the realms of possibility. Jason Mashaane. The All Blacks haven't

803
00:40:26,827 --> 00:40:31,107
Speaker 2: played South Africa at Eden Park since twenty thirteen. Given

804
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Speaker 2: how up and down the All Blacks were at times

805
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Speaker 2: between twenty sixteen and twenty twenty three, the eden Park Hudoo,

806
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Speaker 2: would all probability be gone. Robert's a good point. Yeah,

807
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Speaker 2: I haven't played South Africa here very often. As I say,

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Speaker 2: After one o'clock Bill Sweeney will join us. Keep your

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Speaker 2: calls and correspondents coming. We'll open the lines again and

810
00:40:52,027 --> 00:40:54,787
Speaker 2: after two o'clock this afternoon. Just a reminder if you

811
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Speaker 2: want to go out and pop back after two Lulu

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Speaker 2: Sun is on the show here after two o'clock.

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Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on

814
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Speaker 1: and Masterfield. It's all on weekends Ford with Jason Vane

815
00:41:10,067 --> 00:41:12,667
Speaker 1: on your home of Sport when.

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Speaker 7: News Talk.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in seven past one on Jason Pine broadcasting live

818
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Speaker 2: from eden Park where in around six hours will be

819
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Speaker 2: underway in the second Test between the All Blacks and England.

820
00:41:23,027 --> 00:41:25,147
Speaker 2: For commentary here on News Talk SEDB. So don't have

821
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Speaker 2: to change the channel at all, just leave it here

822
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Speaker 2: on z B and you'll get commentary tonight build up

823
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Speaker 2: from six commentary from seven o'clock. Charlie says Piney, do

824
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Speaker 2: you know when the junior All Blacks are playing France.

825
00:41:36,747 --> 00:41:39,227
Speaker 2: I do Charlie, I do know when they're playing France.

826
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Speaker 2: This is in the World Under twenty Championship semifinals five

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Speaker 2: o'clock Monday morning, New Zealand time. Five o'clock Monday morning,

828
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Speaker 2: New Zealand time is when you can I guess tune

829
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Speaker 2: in or that's when that game is. The other semi

830
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Speaker 2: final England against Ireland slightly earlier in the morning two

831
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Speaker 2: thirty Monday morning, then New Zealand against France, and the

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Speaker 2: final is next weekend from memory. So I hope that's

833
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Speaker 2: answered your question. Adam from across the Tasman this hour

834
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Speaker 2: with his regular Australian update. Lots of sport happening over

835
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Speaker 2: that side of the ditch as well. The Wallabies and

836
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Speaker 2: Wales have their second test of their two match series

837
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Speaker 2: tonight in Melbourne. State of Origin coming up of course

838
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Speaker 2: as well, so we'll break down all of the big

839
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Speaker 2: Australian issues with Adam Peacock don't forget in around an

840
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Speaker 2: hour or so. Lulu Sun is on the show following

841
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Speaker 2: her terrific fortnight at Wimbledon, going all the way to

842
00:42:30,947 --> 00:42:33,787
Speaker 2: the quarter finals in the women's singles. We're going to

843
00:42:33,827 --> 00:42:35,627
Speaker 2: open the lines of course across the afternoon, as we

844
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Speaker 2: always do. You can call and make your point or

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Speaker 2: make it via text on nine two nine two whenever

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Speaker 2: you like as well. But it is eight and a

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Speaker 2: half past one and it is an enormous pleasure to

848
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Speaker 2: welcome into weekends sport across New Zealand. RF you CEO

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Speaker 2: Bill Sweeney, who's here with the England rugby team on

850
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Speaker 2: their tour of New Zealand. Bill, great to have the

851
00:42:57,267 --> 00:42:59,387
Speaker 2: chance to chat to you on news talks, he'd be

852
00:42:59,507 --> 00:43:01,707
Speaker 2: how are you enjoying your time in New Zealand.

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Speaker 24: That's been fantastic and it's great to see you the

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00:43:04,187 --> 00:43:06,987
Speaker 24: other day in Dunedin down there as well. Obviously the

855
00:43:07,067 --> 00:43:08,707
Speaker 24: lead up and the build up to that test was good.

856
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Speaker 24: You're a mad rugby loving nation, so I've had the

857
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Speaker 24: chance to drop into a few rugby clubs during the

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Speaker 24: trip as well. It's it's been a really really good tour.

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Speaker 2: One to get an indication from you about, you know,

860
00:43:19,187 --> 00:43:22,307
Speaker 2: the landscape that you work with in the Northern Hemisphere

861
00:43:22,387 --> 00:43:25,747
Speaker 2: rugby wise, in broad terms, how would you describe the

862
00:43:25,787 --> 00:43:28,107
Speaker 2: current state of rugby in the Northern Hemisphere and the

863
00:43:28,187 --> 00:43:29,507
Speaker 2: big challenges that you'll facing.

864
00:43:29,587 --> 00:43:31,027
Speaker 24: Yeah, i'd say we're in a bit of a sort

865
00:43:31,027 --> 00:43:33,667
Speaker 24: of recovery mode coming out of COVID, and COVID hit

866
00:43:33,787 --> 00:43:35,267
Speaker 24: all of us and you guys have know that down

867
00:43:35,307 --> 00:43:37,867
Speaker 24: here as well, but it hit our premiership club's pretty

868
00:43:37,867 --> 00:43:40,867
Speaker 24: hard and we went through a really painful period where

869
00:43:40,867 --> 00:43:44,387
Speaker 24: three of them became insolvent with Worcester and London Irish

870
00:43:44,667 --> 00:43:47,547
Speaker 24: and that was a really painful period and those three

871
00:43:47,587 --> 00:43:49,827
Speaker 24: had particular stresses in their business models, so they're a

872
00:43:49,827 --> 00:43:52,307
Speaker 24: bit more vulnerable perhaps than some of the others, but

873
00:43:52,387 --> 00:43:53,947
Speaker 24: that was a major shakeup in terms of how do

874
00:43:54,027 --> 00:43:57,067
Speaker 24: we govern the game. So we're probably, i'd say on

875
00:43:57,147 --> 00:43:59,067
Speaker 24: the professional league side, we're probably in a bit of

876
00:43:59,107 --> 00:44:02,187
Speaker 24: a recovery period. It's been a great season so attendance

877
00:44:02,187 --> 00:44:05,267
Speaker 24: as a backup. We had an amazing final with Northampton

878
00:44:05,347 --> 00:44:07,747
Speaker 24: and Bath to a and was full eighty two thousand

879
00:44:07,787 --> 00:44:10,547
Speaker 24: for a final there was incredible. So we're seeing some

880
00:44:10,707 --> 00:44:12,947
Speaker 24: real sort of signs of recovery. And then also i

881
00:44:12,987 --> 00:44:14,827
Speaker 24: think from the community side, because you can't you know,

882
00:44:15,147 --> 00:44:17,187
Speaker 24: you've got to link the two as well. It's really

883
00:44:17,347 --> 00:44:20,267
Speaker 24: gratifying now to see our community participation numbers getting back

884
00:44:20,307 --> 00:44:22,427
Speaker 24: up to where they were pre COVID, and we've actually

885
00:44:22,427 --> 00:44:23,987
Speaker 24: had our best year I think in ten years in

886
00:44:24,067 --> 00:44:27,107
Speaker 24: terms of kids coming into the game. So on balance

887
00:44:27,427 --> 00:44:30,347
Speaker 24: for that then I'd say it is difficult time, tough times,

888
00:44:30,427 --> 00:44:31,627
Speaker 24: but we feel run our way back.

889
00:44:32,227 --> 00:44:35,267
Speaker 2: How did you deal with the challenges of the COVID period,

890
00:44:35,547 --> 00:44:38,107
Speaker 2: the fallout afterwards, that sort of thing that there must

891
00:44:38,147 --> 00:44:41,227
Speaker 2: have been a very challenging time for the whole Rugby ecosystem,

892
00:44:41,347 --> 00:44:44,027
Speaker 2: So what were the main strategies for dealing with there.

893
00:44:44,107 --> 00:44:46,587
Speaker 24: I think the period post COVID was the hardest because

894
00:44:46,747 --> 00:44:48,907
Speaker 24: when you're in a crisis like that, everybody pulls together.

895
00:44:49,107 --> 00:44:51,307
Speaker 24: So government were pretty good to us and we work

896
00:44:51,347 --> 00:44:54,067
Speaker 24: really closely with them, and you go into crisis mode

897
00:44:54,067 --> 00:44:55,667
Speaker 24: and you have all sorts of little sort of working

898
00:44:55,667 --> 00:44:57,267
Speaker 24: groups set up to get yourselves through it, and everyone

899
00:44:57,307 --> 00:45:00,907
Speaker 24: pulls together. But then coming out of COVID, people's people's

900
00:45:00,947 --> 00:45:03,627
Speaker 24: memories go quickly and they just think we're back to normal.

901
00:45:03,987 --> 00:45:06,147
Speaker 24: But we've had massive cost increases coming out of that,

902
00:45:06,787 --> 00:45:09,507
Speaker 24: inflations really high in the North, so have all the

903
00:45:09,587 --> 00:45:12,587
Speaker 24: pressures and challenges of coming out of COVID still trying

904
00:45:12,627 --> 00:45:14,507
Speaker 24: to get the revenue side up to speed, but you've

905
00:45:14,547 --> 00:45:17,227
Speaker 24: got these increased costs, so we've just had to really

906
00:45:17,307 --> 00:45:19,587
Speaker 24: knuckle down and focus and get it done. But I

907
00:45:19,627 --> 00:45:20,747
Speaker 24: think we're through the worst of it now.

908
00:45:21,347 --> 00:45:24,467
Speaker 2: In terms of how you judge your performance. You know

909
00:45:24,587 --> 00:45:26,107
Speaker 2: here in New Zealand, obviously we love it when the

910
00:45:26,147 --> 00:45:28,667
Speaker 2: All Blacks went and often New Zealand Rugby are quite

911
00:45:28,787 --> 00:45:32,187
Speaker 2: too the All Blacks. Is it similar in England? How

912
00:45:32,307 --> 00:45:35,387
Speaker 2: key a Metrica is the succeeds of of your elite sides.

913
00:45:35,547 --> 00:45:38,627
Speaker 24: Yeah, it's really important. You know, winning matters and the

914
00:45:38,627 --> 00:45:40,427
Speaker 24: world's a different place when you're winning. You know, we

915
00:45:40,507 --> 00:45:43,347
Speaker 24: went through we went through a couple of difficult years

916
00:45:44,067 --> 00:45:45,827
Speaker 24: at the end of Eddie's tenure there and we had

917
00:45:45,947 --> 00:45:48,827
Speaker 24: a couple of tough Six Nations championships coming in fourth

918
00:45:48,867 --> 00:45:53,107
Speaker 24: and fifth, and it definitely it changes the mood and everything.

919
00:45:53,187 --> 00:45:55,907
Speaker 24: It changes the conversation you're having with your business partners,

920
00:45:55,947 --> 00:45:58,667
Speaker 24: it changes the conversations you're having with the community game.

921
00:45:59,267 --> 00:46:01,267
Speaker 24: Nobody likes to see you struggling. They all expect you

922
00:46:01,307 --> 00:46:03,787
Speaker 24: to do much better. And then Steve's come in and

923
00:46:04,467 --> 00:46:06,267
Speaker 24: we had we had a soso start to the last

924
00:46:06,387 --> 00:46:08,787
Speaker 24: six Nations but finish really strongly, and then to get

925
00:46:08,827 --> 00:46:11,147
Speaker 24: onto this tour and see us playing a really exciting

926
00:46:11,507 --> 00:46:13,907
Speaker 24: brand of rugby which is maybe different than people normally

927
00:46:13,907 --> 00:46:16,547
Speaker 24: expect from us. There's a real buzzer around the country

928
00:46:16,587 --> 00:46:19,667
Speaker 24: now about this squad and Steve and the coaching team with.

929
00:46:19,787 --> 00:46:23,467
Speaker 2: Sport is obviously you know, I guess historically you're going

930
00:46:23,547 --> 00:46:26,187
Speaker 2: to win fifty percent lose fifty percent or thereabouts when

931
00:46:26,187 --> 00:46:29,307
Speaker 2: you're dealing with commercial partners, You know, how do you

932
00:46:29,587 --> 00:46:32,547
Speaker 2: make sure that that your commercial partnerships are not entirely

933
00:46:32,627 --> 00:46:34,547
Speaker 2: dictated by whether the team's wunning or not.

934
00:46:35,027 --> 00:46:36,907
Speaker 24: I think we're quite fortunate, you know that the partners

935
00:46:36,947 --> 00:46:38,427
Speaker 24: we've gone and mean, look at O two, they've been

936
00:46:38,427 --> 00:46:40,387
Speaker 24: with us for over thirty years. Yeah, that's a really

937
00:46:40,467 --> 00:46:43,827
Speaker 24: long standing relationship. And I'd say all all the commercial

938
00:46:43,867 --> 00:46:45,747
Speaker 24: partners that we work with, they understand the game, and

939
00:46:45,787 --> 00:46:48,347
Speaker 24: they understand the pressures of high performance sport, and they

940
00:46:48,427 --> 00:46:50,307
Speaker 24: know you're not going to have you know, can be

941
00:46:50,347 --> 00:46:52,067
Speaker 24: winning hundred percent of the time. So if you're winning

942
00:46:52,147 --> 00:46:54,867
Speaker 24: seventy seventy five percent, that's a pretty good, pretty good

943
00:46:54,907 --> 00:46:57,467
Speaker 24: win ratio. I think from their perspective. They just want

944
00:46:57,507 --> 00:46:59,187
Speaker 24: to They want to be comfortable you're doing all the

945
00:46:59,267 --> 00:47:01,307
Speaker 24: right things to head in the right direction, whether it's

946
00:47:01,347 --> 00:47:03,787
Speaker 24: the women's game or the men's game, and so we

947
00:47:03,947 --> 00:47:06,107
Speaker 24: were pretty transparent and telling them about our plans and

948
00:47:06,147 --> 00:47:07,747
Speaker 24: we're where we're heading towards. I think as long as

949
00:47:07,787 --> 00:47:11,067
Speaker 24: they feel you've got things under control, they're pretty supportive.

950
00:47:11,347 --> 00:47:13,987
Speaker 24: In terms of selection for the England rugby team, it's

951
00:47:14,387 --> 00:47:16,427
Speaker 24: identical to here in New Zealand. You must be playing

952
00:47:16,467 --> 00:47:18,507
Speaker 24: in Super Rugby to be eligible for the All Blacks

953
00:47:18,547 --> 00:47:20,347
Speaker 24: for England. Got to be playing in England to play

954
00:47:20,507 --> 00:47:23,627
Speaker 24: for England. What's the main rationale for that? Is it

955
00:47:23,707 --> 00:47:26,747
Speaker 24: similar to what we head down here. Yeah, it's a

956
00:47:26,787 --> 00:47:28,507
Speaker 24: controversial one with a lot of people. A lot of

957
00:47:28,547 --> 00:47:31,227
Speaker 24: people feel that we should be just have a completely

958
00:47:31,307 --> 00:47:33,307
Speaker 24: open system and you slip players from ever they are.

959
00:47:33,307 --> 00:47:36,187
Speaker 24: I think there's really two main reasons why we feel

960
00:47:36,227 --> 00:47:40,507
Speaker 24: that's important. When the game went professionally ninety five, all

961
00:47:40,547 --> 00:47:42,827
Speaker 24: of the different unions chose to go a different way

962
00:47:42,867 --> 00:47:44,827
Speaker 24: in terms of how they structure the game, and every

963
00:47:44,907 --> 00:47:46,987
Speaker 24: model is slightly different. So the Irish have probably got

964
00:47:46,987 --> 00:47:49,787
Speaker 24: the most extreme in terms of central control for provinces

965
00:47:49,947 --> 00:47:52,267
Speaker 24: they employ, all the players, employ all the coaches, one

966
00:47:52,307 --> 00:47:55,027
Speaker 24: hundred percent control there and ourselves in the French should

967
00:47:55,027 --> 00:47:57,867
Speaker 24: be quite similar in the sense that entrepreneurs came in

968
00:47:58,107 --> 00:48:00,267
Speaker 24: owned the clubs, they own the player contracts and we

969
00:48:00,387 --> 00:48:03,227
Speaker 24: kind of lease them back. And we've found to be

970
00:48:03,307 --> 00:48:05,707
Speaker 24: competitive in international rugby you've got to have a greater

971
00:48:05,827 --> 00:48:08,067
Speaker 24: degree of So we're on the verge of signing a

972
00:48:08,107 --> 00:48:10,547
Speaker 24: thing at the moment called the Professional Game Partnership, and

973
00:48:10,627 --> 00:48:13,107
Speaker 24: that will give Steve a lot more direct control over

974
00:48:13,107 --> 00:48:16,067
Speaker 24: a core group of twenty five players, so he'll have

975
00:48:16,187 --> 00:48:19,627
Speaker 24: say in control over things like strength and conditioning, rec periods,

976
00:48:19,707 --> 00:48:22,547
Speaker 24: individual development programs for the players, a much higher level

977
00:48:22,587 --> 00:48:25,027
Speaker 24: of control, and he'll have that taking us through the

978
00:48:25,107 --> 00:48:27,427
Speaker 24: age grade as well, so under eighteens, under twenties into

979
00:48:27,467 --> 00:48:29,747
Speaker 24: the A team and then the senior team. Aligned to that,

980
00:48:29,947 --> 00:48:32,747
Speaker 24: we just feel that you want those players, you want

981
00:48:32,747 --> 00:48:35,147
Speaker 24: your best players based in your home country because you

982
00:48:35,227 --> 00:48:37,907
Speaker 24: just got greater accessibility. If you're playing in France, you

983
00:48:37,987 --> 00:48:41,387
Speaker 24: don't have that quite same relationship perhaps with directors of rugby,

984
00:48:41,667 --> 00:48:44,027
Speaker 24: and what Steve's really good at having been head coach

985
00:48:44,067 --> 00:48:46,147
Speaker 24: of Leicster he knows all the directors of rugby, He's

986
00:48:46,147 --> 00:48:48,947
Speaker 24: got good relationships there and it's really a two way

987
00:48:48,987 --> 00:48:51,307
Speaker 24: partnership in terms of what's best for the players, best

988
00:48:51,347 --> 00:48:53,107
Speaker 24: for the club and also of the country. So having

989
00:48:53,187 --> 00:48:56,067
Speaker 24: them based domestically, we think from a pure performance point

990
00:48:56,067 --> 00:48:58,707
Speaker 24: of view is major advantage. And then you've got the

991
00:48:58,707 --> 00:49:01,387
Speaker 24: commercial one, which is we want our Premiership league. We

992
00:49:01,467 --> 00:49:04,067
Speaker 24: want our clubs to be successful and it's tough if

993
00:49:04,147 --> 00:49:07,587
Speaker 24: your best players have gone abroad. So we're pretty fixed

994
00:49:07,627 --> 00:49:10,427
Speaker 24: on that policy of only selecting players that are playing

995
00:49:10,427 --> 00:49:11,747
Speaker 24: in England. We think that's the right thing to do.

996
00:49:12,267 --> 00:49:14,787
Speaker 2: Is there a constant discussion though? I know down here there,

997
00:49:14,827 --> 00:49:16,347
Speaker 2: as you've probably there won't be a surprise to you.

998
00:49:16,707 --> 00:49:18,587
Speaker 2: You're right. There are people who think just open it up,

999
00:49:18,667 --> 00:49:20,507
Speaker 2: doesn't matter where you're playing, you should still be eligible

1000
00:49:20,507 --> 00:49:22,307
Speaker 2: for the All Blacks. Richie Moring is up in Japan.

1001
00:49:22,347 --> 00:49:24,107
Speaker 2: We'd love to have them playing at ten. But now

1002
00:49:24,227 --> 00:49:26,907
Speaker 2: that you know injured are pretty firm on their stance

1003
00:49:26,987 --> 00:49:29,627
Speaker 2: and have been on record as saying we're not anywhere

1004
00:49:29,627 --> 00:49:31,547
Speaker 2: close to even tweaking it a litt alone changing it.

1005
00:49:31,947 --> 00:49:34,067
Speaker 24: Is that your mindset as well? Yeah, it is and

1006
00:49:34,107 --> 00:49:36,027
Speaker 24: I think if you look around, look around the world,

1007
00:49:36,107 --> 00:49:39,027
Speaker 24: look around the unions. The Irish do it, you do it,

1008
00:49:41,067 --> 00:49:44,827
Speaker 24: we do it, the French do it. Now there's always

1009
00:49:44,827 --> 00:49:46,347
Speaker 24: the exception to the rule. And of course whenever I

1010
00:49:46,467 --> 00:49:48,547
Speaker 24: say that, I'll guess it. We'll look at South Africa.

1011
00:49:48,667 --> 00:49:50,347
Speaker 24: You know, they pick players from all over the place.

1012
00:49:50,547 --> 00:49:52,027
Speaker 24: I think they're a bit of an outlier. I mean,

1013
00:49:52,027 --> 00:49:54,947
Speaker 24: they've got such a conveyor belt of players and they've

1014
00:49:54,947 --> 00:49:57,427
Speaker 24: got such depth of selection. I think they can afford

1015
00:49:57,467 --> 00:49:59,907
Speaker 24: to do that. So if that works for them, that's fine.

1016
00:49:59,907 --> 00:50:02,267
Speaker 24: But we believe it's the right model for us and

1017
00:50:02,427 --> 00:50:04,827
Speaker 24: we'll stick to that. Twicking a great place to watch

1018
00:50:04,827 --> 00:50:07,067
Speaker 24: a game of rugby. It's undergoing some innovation at the moment,

1019
00:50:07,107 --> 00:50:08,827
Speaker 24: I understand. Can you tell us a bit about that. Yeah,

1020
00:50:09,187 --> 00:50:12,187
Speaker 24: it's not going under renovation yet. We're looking at twenty seven.

1021
00:50:12,587 --> 00:50:14,947
Speaker 24: So you know, we've got different models north and south.

1022
00:50:15,067 --> 00:50:17,187
Speaker 24: So you don't own your stadium down here. I've heard

1023
00:50:17,187 --> 00:50:20,347
Speaker 24: this talk about possibly that happening in Auckland, but you

1024
00:50:20,387 --> 00:50:22,627
Speaker 24: don't own the stadium. Now for us, the ownership of

1025
00:50:22,667 --> 00:50:25,147
Speaker 24: the stadiums of a core pillar of our of our

1026
00:50:25,187 --> 00:50:28,427
Speaker 24: commercial strategy. So we generate eighty five percent of our

1027
00:50:28,507 --> 00:50:33,147
Speaker 24: revenue comes from the commercial side of the men's senior team.

1028
00:50:34,107 --> 00:50:37,227
Speaker 24: Of that, fifty percent is match day revenue and the

1029
00:50:37,307 --> 00:50:40,667
Speaker 24: rest is sponsorship and broadcast rights. So if we're going

1030
00:50:40,707 --> 00:50:42,027
Speaker 24: to do that, you've got to have a stadium that's

1031
00:50:42,067 --> 00:50:44,547
Speaker 24: fit for purpose. And if you look at if you

1032
00:50:44,587 --> 00:50:46,307
Speaker 24: look at England at the moment, you'll see stadiums like

1033
00:50:46,347 --> 00:50:49,707
Speaker 24: Tottenhotspur Stadium at whiteheat Lane, major major renovation. I think

1034
00:50:49,747 --> 00:50:52,787
Speaker 24: they spent one point two billion or something. Old Trafford's

1035
00:50:52,787 --> 00:50:55,027
Speaker 24: going to be renovated fairly soon. I know we're talking

1036
00:50:55,067 --> 00:50:57,067
Speaker 24: about football, not rugby, but you've got to keep up

1037
00:50:57,107 --> 00:50:59,667
Speaker 24: in terms of the product you're offering your fans. And

1038
00:51:00,027 --> 00:51:02,387
Speaker 24: Twoklam's a great place, loads of history and loads of legacy,

1039
00:51:02,627 --> 00:51:04,787
Speaker 24: but she needs a bit of a facelift. So it's

1040
00:51:04,827 --> 00:51:06,707
Speaker 24: not gonna be it's not gonna be cheap. And we're

1041
00:51:06,707 --> 00:51:09,667
Speaker 24: going through that whole process now in terms of design concepts.

1042
00:51:09,747 --> 00:51:10,467
Speaker 8: What will it look like?

1043
00:51:10,587 --> 00:51:10,987
Speaker 19: What do we do?

1044
00:51:11,867 --> 00:51:13,707
Speaker 24: Prior to that, we went through a whole range of options.

1045
00:51:13,747 --> 00:51:15,307
Speaker 24: Do you knock it down and start from scratch, do

1046
00:51:15,387 --> 00:51:17,587
Speaker 24: you move it to the center of the country more

1047
00:51:17,627 --> 00:51:19,747
Speaker 24: geographically accessible to the rest of the country, or do

1048
00:51:19,827 --> 00:51:22,827
Speaker 24: you renovate Twickenham, And all of the financial analysis we

1049
00:51:22,947 --> 00:51:24,387
Speaker 24: did said that the best thing to do was really

1050
00:51:24,387 --> 00:51:27,627
Speaker 24: stay in Twickenham and build the and build three of

1051
00:51:27,667 --> 00:51:30,027
Speaker 24: the stands there up to match the stand and that

1052
00:51:30,147 --> 00:51:32,467
Speaker 24: still allows you to access that commercial center of London.

1053
00:51:33,187 --> 00:51:34,587
Speaker 24: So that's the route we're going down. We've got a

1054
00:51:34,627 --> 00:51:36,667
Speaker 24: big meeting in January for the next phase of the program,

1055
00:51:36,747 --> 00:51:39,387
Speaker 24: but hopefully we'll kick off in twenty seven and we'd

1056
00:51:39,467 --> 00:51:41,547
Speaker 24: kick it off in a year when you've got no

1057
00:51:41,667 --> 00:51:43,507
Speaker 24: autumn internationals, so we do when you've got your warm

1058
00:51:43,587 --> 00:51:46,987
Speaker 24: up matches, which is which commercial point of view is

1059
00:51:46,987 --> 00:51:49,027
Speaker 24: a better thing for us? Were you ever close to

1060
00:51:49,347 --> 00:51:51,827
Speaker 24: really like adding, Yeah, we took it seriously, We looked

1061
00:51:51,827 --> 00:51:53,547
Speaker 24: at it. There were a couple of things. There was

1062
00:51:53,587 --> 00:51:57,307
Speaker 24: talk about a possible joint venture with Wembley. Government were

1063
00:51:57,347 --> 00:52:00,067
Speaker 24: quite keen on that, the idea of one national stadium,

1064
00:52:00,507 --> 00:52:02,827
Speaker 24: but it didn't work for us. Again from the point

1065
00:52:02,827 --> 00:52:05,387
Speaker 24: of hospitality and capacity to do that there, so that

1066
00:52:05,427 --> 00:52:07,547
Speaker 24: didn't quite work. Is not that easy to get to

1067
00:52:08,027 --> 00:52:10,067
Speaker 24: and you're always also thinking about the tradition of the

1068
00:52:10,107 --> 00:52:12,827
Speaker 24: game and the home of English rugby and all of

1069
00:52:12,867 --> 00:52:15,147
Speaker 24: that history and whatever. So you don't move away from

1070
00:52:15,227 --> 00:52:17,787
Speaker 24: that lightheartedly. You've got to take that really seriously.

1071
00:52:18,027 --> 00:52:18,907
Speaker 2: But no, we did look at it.

1072
00:52:19,707 --> 00:52:22,387
Speaker 24: We looked at Birmingham, great location, easier for fans to

1073
00:52:22,427 --> 00:52:25,507
Speaker 24: get to from around the country, but on balance we

1074
00:52:25,667 --> 00:52:26,987
Speaker 24: ended up with stay where we are.

1075
00:52:27,467 --> 00:52:28,987
Speaker 2: A couple of other issues. I want to get your

1076
00:52:29,067 --> 00:52:32,067
Speaker 2: views on talk that the soon to begin Nations Championship

1077
00:52:32,507 --> 00:52:36,227
Speaker 2: might have its finals weekend and Cutter, can you tell

1078
00:52:36,307 --> 00:52:37,467
Speaker 2: us where those discussions are at.

1079
00:52:37,947 --> 00:52:40,427
Speaker 24: Yeah, we started off the conversations on the Nations Cup

1080
00:52:40,467 --> 00:52:42,627
Speaker 24: in March of twenty twenty. I remember them kicking off

1081
00:52:43,067 --> 00:52:44,947
Speaker 24: and it was just pre COVID and I thought, oh yeah,

1082
00:52:44,987 --> 00:52:46,707
Speaker 24: and I was relatively new, so I came in in

1083
00:52:46,747 --> 00:52:48,747
Speaker 24: twenty nineteen, so I thought we'll polish this off in

1084
00:52:48,787 --> 00:52:52,387
Speaker 24: probably about six months. So in typical rugby fashion, things

1085
00:52:52,467 --> 00:52:54,867
Speaker 24: sometimes to take a long time to get done. So

1086
00:52:54,987 --> 00:52:57,267
Speaker 24: here we are still talking about it. But great progress

1087
00:52:57,347 --> 00:52:59,947
Speaker 24: on the Nation's Cup as a competition as a format,

1088
00:53:00,347 --> 00:53:02,867
Speaker 24: really good alignment with North and South, and we worked

1089
00:53:02,907 --> 00:53:05,947
Speaker 24: really well together actually in Northern Hemisphere and Southern Hemisphere

1090
00:53:06,387 --> 00:53:08,667
Speaker 24: and then out of the Blue A couple of months

1091
00:53:08,707 --> 00:53:10,747
Speaker 24: ago we had none solicited bid came in from the

1092
00:53:10,787 --> 00:53:13,267
Speaker 24: Middle East. We're all under NDA so we can't talk

1093
00:53:13,667 --> 00:53:17,267
Speaker 24: too openly. There's a lot of confidentiality around it. But

1094
00:53:17,387 --> 00:53:19,427
Speaker 24: I think as you'd expect us to do, we need

1095
00:53:19,507 --> 00:53:22,627
Speaker 24: to take every proposal seriously. We're all under massive financial

1096
00:53:22,707 --> 00:53:25,587
Speaker 24: pressure the game as a whole globally worldwide. We need

1097
00:53:25,667 --> 00:53:27,827
Speaker 24: to generate more revenue and that needs to be invested

1098
00:53:27,867 --> 00:53:29,547
Speaker 24: back into the game. But it's got to be the

1099
00:53:29,627 --> 00:53:32,907
Speaker 24: right decision as well, So the obvious questions come up.

1100
00:53:33,147 --> 00:53:36,147
Speaker 24: Will fans travel there? Is it the right place to

1101
00:53:36,187 --> 00:53:38,307
Speaker 24: go to? Are there other options to do? So we're

1102
00:53:38,347 --> 00:53:40,947
Speaker 24: in that situation now, just really evaluating all the different

1103
00:53:41,227 --> 00:53:43,387
Speaker 24: as possible aspects to it, and then we'll make a

1104
00:53:43,467 --> 00:53:44,067
Speaker 24: joint decision.

1105
00:53:44,427 --> 00:53:46,427
Speaker 2: What do you think the main things that will inform

1106
00:53:46,507 --> 00:53:47,667
Speaker 2: that decision will be.

1107
00:53:48,507 --> 00:53:50,787
Speaker 24: I think fan interest is really important, so we need

1108
00:53:50,907 --> 00:53:53,547
Speaker 24: to we need to understand what the fans want and

1109
00:53:53,747 --> 00:53:55,867
Speaker 24: really have a good sense of how they feel about that.

1110
00:53:56,547 --> 00:53:58,467
Speaker 24: I don't know how much coverage you got down here,

1111
00:53:58,547 --> 00:54:01,907
Speaker 24: but we had the situation in European football with the

1112
00:54:01,987 --> 00:54:05,267
Speaker 24: Super League where they were going for and that they

1113
00:54:05,307 --> 00:54:06,747
Speaker 24: were sort of sort of went off in that direction

1114
00:54:06,867 --> 00:54:10,467
Speaker 24: pretty quickly, and then things unfolded quite quickly as well.

1115
00:54:10,547 --> 00:54:12,667
Speaker 24: So I think taking the fans on that journey and

1116
00:54:12,747 --> 00:54:14,747
Speaker 24: really understanding how they'll react to it and what's the

1117
00:54:14,827 --> 00:54:17,387
Speaker 24: right product for them as well is important. And then

1118
00:54:17,427 --> 00:54:19,227
Speaker 24: the financials of the financials, you know, you'll do all

1119
00:54:19,227 --> 00:54:21,747
Speaker 24: your normal financial analysis and say is that you know?

1120
00:54:21,947 --> 00:54:27,347
Speaker 2: Is that worth move? Interested about the challenges facing or

1121
00:54:27,387 --> 00:54:31,587
Speaker 2: not the challenges? Sorry, the the frame of mind around

1122
00:54:31,627 --> 00:54:34,387
Speaker 2: the Northern hemisphere rugby compared to Southern hemisphere rugby. We

1123
00:54:34,467 --> 00:54:38,267
Speaker 2: often hear you know, you know north east south, is

1124
00:54:38,627 --> 00:54:41,267
Speaker 2: there a northeast south or are there actually more areas

1125
00:54:41,667 --> 00:54:44,027
Speaker 2: of alignment? Then we realize I.

1126
00:54:44,027 --> 00:54:45,907
Speaker 24: Think it's probably more alignment. I think I think on

1127
00:54:46,027 --> 00:54:49,227
Speaker 24: things like competition formats and how do you drive greater

1128
00:54:49,427 --> 00:54:52,147
Speaker 24: value through because the challenge you face with rugby, it's

1129
00:54:52,147 --> 00:54:54,147
Speaker 24: not like cricket where you can just throw up a

1130
00:54:54,187 --> 00:54:55,947
Speaker 24: new format of the sport and you can have players

1131
00:54:55,987 --> 00:54:58,227
Speaker 24: playing three hundred and twenty days a year. You just

1132
00:54:58,267 --> 00:55:00,187
Speaker 24: can't do that in rugby. Your best players are limited

1133
00:55:00,187 --> 00:55:02,107
Speaker 24: the number of games they can play. So we've got

1134
00:55:02,147 --> 00:55:04,627
Speaker 24: an obligation to drive as much value as possible through

1135
00:55:05,027 --> 00:55:07,747
Speaker 24: the same volume. Less you're never going to get more

1136
00:55:08,267 --> 00:55:10,947
Speaker 24: matches in place, So we work together really well in

1137
00:55:11,107 --> 00:55:13,507
Speaker 24: terms of that commercial aspect of things. I think we're

1138
00:55:13,507 --> 00:55:15,507
Speaker 24: a lot closer now in terms of where we want

1139
00:55:15,547 --> 00:55:17,947
Speaker 24: to get to with the shape of the game. Personally,

1140
00:55:17,947 --> 00:55:20,907
Speaker 24: I think the biggest challenge we face as a sport

1141
00:55:20,947 --> 00:55:24,467
Speaker 24: globally is attracting a younger audience. And I think sometimes

1142
00:55:24,507 --> 00:55:27,427
Speaker 24: we're a little bit too traditional. And you guys down here,

1143
00:55:27,467 --> 00:55:30,147
Speaker 24: particularly New Zealand, you're very outspoken about speed of game,

1144
00:55:30,747 --> 00:55:35,027
Speaker 24: style of play, regulation and law changes to facilitate that,

1145
00:55:36,187 --> 00:55:39,427
Speaker 24: and we're a lot closer than people might imagine on that. Personally,

1146
00:55:39,947 --> 00:55:42,907
Speaker 24: I'm in favor of in favor of a revision to

1147
00:55:42,947 --> 00:55:46,507
Speaker 24: the red card situation, but I'm speaking that in this case.

1148
00:55:46,547 --> 00:55:48,667
Speaker 24: I'm talking about that personally. That's not the shared view

1149
00:55:48,987 --> 00:55:50,267
Speaker 24: of a lot of people in the RF. You I'd

1150
00:55:50,267 --> 00:55:52,427
Speaker 24: say we're probably split fifty to fifty, and you get

1151
00:55:52,467 --> 00:55:55,787
Speaker 24: that player welfare conversation versus the product you've got on.

1152
00:55:55,907 --> 00:55:57,547
Speaker 24: But I just think at the moment, you know, God

1153
00:55:57,587 --> 00:56:00,547
Speaker 24: forbid you tonight you get a red card. Nearly stage

1154
00:56:00,547 --> 00:56:02,747
Speaker 24: of the game. It just it changes the atmosphere in

1155
00:56:02,787 --> 00:56:04,747
Speaker 24: the crowd and it changes expectation there. So I think

1156
00:56:04,787 --> 00:56:07,107
Speaker 24: we need to really is he look at that and

1157
00:56:07,147 --> 00:56:09,547
Speaker 24: we're very much aligned from then exec point of view

1158
00:56:09,707 --> 00:56:11,947
Speaker 24: with New Zealand. I think the other piece where we're

1159
00:56:12,027 --> 00:56:14,387
Speaker 24: very aligned is how we market the game. Yeah, I

1160
00:56:14,467 --> 00:56:16,387
Speaker 24: just think we've got up our game there in terms

1161
00:56:16,427 --> 00:56:20,067
Speaker 24: of use of information, explaining why decisions happen on the pitch,

1162
00:56:20,227 --> 00:56:23,827
Speaker 24: communicate with the crowd, a more contemporary, more youth focused

1163
00:56:23,867 --> 00:56:26,427
Speaker 24: way of building the game, and we're pretty much aligned

1164
00:56:26,467 --> 00:56:26,587
Speaker 24: on that.

1165
00:56:27,147 --> 00:56:30,227
Speaker 2: How does Mark Robinson go in global you know Rugby

1166
00:56:30,307 --> 00:56:32,507
Speaker 2: conversation you said before that, you know, is he a

1167
00:56:32,507 --> 00:56:33,067
Speaker 2: bit outspoken?

1168
00:56:33,107 --> 00:56:33,387
Speaker 8: As he is?

1169
00:56:33,427 --> 00:56:34,627
Speaker 2: He he banged the table a bit, does he?

1170
00:56:34,707 --> 00:56:35,107
Speaker 5: Or he does?

1171
00:56:35,267 --> 00:56:37,787
Speaker 24: Yeah, he's very He does a good job protecting your interests.

1172
00:56:39,067 --> 00:56:41,707
Speaker 24: So he's not slow in coming forward with his views,

1173
00:56:41,747 --> 00:56:44,347
Speaker 24: which is great and I'd say ninety percent of the

1174
00:56:44,387 --> 00:56:48,107
Speaker 24: time we're probably probably in agreement, so that's fine. But no, No,

1175
00:56:48,227 --> 00:56:50,347
Speaker 24: he's very He's passionate about the game. He's played the

1176
00:56:50,387 --> 00:56:52,867
Speaker 24: game at the highest level. He wants to see a

1177
00:56:52,987 --> 00:56:55,987
Speaker 24: good game in place, and most of the things he

1178
00:56:56,027 --> 00:56:57,787
Speaker 24: talks about are really in the best interest of the game,

1179
00:56:57,867 --> 00:56:59,107
Speaker 24: So I think he does a great.

1180
00:56:59,027 --> 00:56:59,347
Speaker 5: Job for you.

1181
00:56:59,627 --> 00:57:01,547
Speaker 2: Do you feel optimistic about the future of the game

1182
00:57:01,587 --> 00:57:03,467
Speaker 2: of rugby, Yeah, I really do, I really do.

1183
00:57:03,587 --> 00:57:06,307
Speaker 24: I think I think COVID hit us a lot more

1184
00:57:06,347 --> 00:57:08,787
Speaker 24: more than people realize, you know, and we got through

1185
00:57:08,867 --> 00:57:10,227
Speaker 24: it and we're still in that sort of kind of

1186
00:57:10,307 --> 00:57:10,987
Speaker 24: recovery phase.

1187
00:57:11,067 --> 00:57:11,187
Speaker 17: Now.

1188
00:57:12,267 --> 00:57:14,627
Speaker 24: We saw a great World Cup in France. We've just

1189
00:57:14,707 --> 00:57:17,987
Speaker 24: come off for an outstanding six Nations. I think if

1190
00:57:18,027 --> 00:57:20,147
Speaker 24: we can get this Nation's Cup done and in the

1191
00:57:20,267 --> 00:57:24,027
Speaker 24: right format, I think that's really really important. We do

1192
00:57:24,187 --> 00:57:26,427
Speaker 24: need to address the marketing and the communication of the game,

1193
00:57:27,307 --> 00:57:29,587
Speaker 24: but it's I personally, I still think it's the best

1194
00:57:29,627 --> 00:57:31,547
Speaker 24: game in the world, and I'm really optimistic that we'll

1195
00:57:31,547 --> 00:57:33,227
Speaker 24: get these things right and we'll drive it forward. And

1196
00:57:33,227 --> 00:57:35,587
Speaker 24: it's time for rugby to re establish itself.

1197
00:57:35,787 --> 00:57:38,787
Speaker 2: And most importantly, the thirty year drought of Eden Park.

1198
00:57:39,507 --> 00:57:42,587
Speaker 2: Is that going to fall tonight? I hope tonight.

1199
00:57:42,587 --> 00:57:47,267
Speaker 24: It's a brilliant game. I hope it's an entertaining product

1200
00:57:47,307 --> 00:57:48,707
Speaker 24: for the fans and they love it in the reg

1201
00:57:48,787 --> 00:57:51,347
Speaker 24: of their seats. I'd like us to square the series

1202
00:57:51,427 --> 00:57:53,187
Speaker 24: up tonight and then we can see you again on

1203
00:57:53,227 --> 00:57:54,947
Speaker 24: the second of November and twicken and when we call

1204
00:57:54,987 --> 00:57:58,387
Speaker 24: that the decider yep, but no injuries, no red cards,

1205
00:57:58,627 --> 00:58:02,467
Speaker 24: stunning event, people loving it, walking away feeling they've really

1206
00:58:02,587 --> 00:58:04,427
Speaker 24: enjoyed the evening. Then that's the main objective.

1207
00:58:04,467 --> 00:58:04,627
Speaker 8: Meet.

1208
00:58:04,707 --> 00:58:06,307
Speaker 2: Look, I think we can all agree on that.

1209
00:58:06,507 --> 00:58:06,627
Speaker 19: Bill.

1210
00:58:06,667 --> 00:58:08,067
Speaker 2: It's been great to get the chance to chat. Thanks

1211
00:58:08,107 --> 00:58:10,227
Speaker 2: for taking the time, pleasure always good to see you now.

1212
00:58:10,307 --> 00:58:12,307
Speaker 2: Good to see you too, Bill thinks. Indeed, Bill Sweeney,

1213
00:58:12,387 --> 00:58:16,867
Speaker 2: there are if you CEO very open on a number

1214
00:58:16,907 --> 00:58:18,987
Speaker 2: of topics there you might want to pick up on

1215
00:58:19,067 --> 00:58:21,747
Speaker 2: something that you heard from Bill Sweeney. I eight hundred

1216
00:58:21,867 --> 00:58:24,547
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty nine two nine two. If you would

1217
00:58:24,547 --> 00:58:26,267
Speaker 2: prefer to correspond by text, we're going to open the

1218
00:58:26,267 --> 00:58:28,707
Speaker 2: lines again. Got to get to Adam Peacock at around

1219
00:58:28,827 --> 00:58:31,667
Speaker 2: one forty five for our regular look at Australian sport,

1220
00:58:31,747 --> 00:58:33,827
Speaker 2: but we're coming to your life from Eden Parks. If

1221
00:58:33,867 --> 00:58:35,587
Speaker 2: you want to pick up on anything, as I say,

1222
00:58:35,627 --> 00:58:38,067
Speaker 2: you heard from Bill Sweeney, or anything that perhaps you

1223
00:58:38,147 --> 00:58:40,747
Speaker 2: wanted to get across last hour and couldn't get through

1224
00:58:40,827 --> 00:58:43,987
Speaker 2: on I eight hundred eighty ten eighty mussys Piney, I'm

1225
00:58:43,987 --> 00:58:46,827
Speaker 2: not actually sure how we're going to go tonight. Mate.

1226
00:58:46,907 --> 00:58:49,947
Speaker 2: We normally go in with ninety nine point nine percent

1227
00:58:50,067 --> 00:58:54,227
Speaker 2: confidence that will thrash whoever it is, but I'm undecided.

1228
00:58:54,547 --> 00:58:57,227
Speaker 2: I don't know if I like it. Come on us,

1229
00:58:58,307 --> 00:59:01,707
Speaker 2: Mike says Jason. I'm not that confident. I hope the

1230
00:59:01,707 --> 00:59:03,467
Speaker 2: All Black swim, but I don't think the English team

1231
00:59:03,587 --> 00:59:06,307
Speaker 2: fears this group of players. Apart from Ardie and Bow,

1232
00:59:07,147 --> 00:59:08,827
Speaker 2: I believe we'll look back in a few years and

1233
00:59:08,907 --> 00:59:11,907
Speaker 2: not really remember some of the player's names. There are

1234
00:59:11,947 --> 00:59:14,827
Speaker 2: no real icons go back a few years or even

1235
00:59:14,907 --> 00:59:17,467
Speaker 2: last year, we had names that stood out. We don't

1236
00:59:17,667 --> 00:59:21,267
Speaker 2: necessarily in this team. Thanks Mike. I think it's still

1237
00:59:21,307 --> 00:59:24,187
Speaker 2: a pretty decent All Black side and I still think

1238
00:59:24,227 --> 00:59:27,067
Speaker 2: we'll win the game of rugby tonight. But if you

1239
00:59:27,107 --> 00:59:29,947
Speaker 2: want to pick up on anything that you heard last hour,

1240
00:59:30,147 --> 00:59:32,867
Speaker 2: this hour, we've got some opportunity for you eight hundred

1241
00:59:32,987 --> 00:59:35,587
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty nineteen nine to two on text one

1242
00:59:35,667 --> 00:59:38,427
Speaker 2: twenty five back with your calls right after this on

1243
00:59:38,507 --> 00:59:39,107
Speaker 2: Weekend Sport.

1244
00:59:40,067 --> 00:59:43,427
Speaker 1: The pitch is ready. Are you live from dyn Park?

1245
00:59:43,587 --> 00:59:46,587
Speaker 1: Ahead of All Blacks v. England It's Weekends for with

1246
00:59:46,947 --> 00:59:51,187
Speaker 1: Chason Vive and GJ. Gunderhove's New Zealand's most trusted hope

1247
00:59:51,187 --> 00:59:52,947
Speaker 1: builder used talk ZIBB.

1248
00:59:53,347 --> 00:59:56,107
Speaker 2: One twenty eight talking any aspect of tonight's rugby that

1249
00:59:56,427 --> 00:59:58,707
Speaker 2: you want to pick up on. Eight hundred eighty ten

1250
00:59:58,867 --> 01:00:01,427
Speaker 2: eighty is our number. You can tell us how confident

1251
01:00:01,507 --> 01:00:02,067
Speaker 2: you are or not.

1252
01:00:02,667 --> 01:00:09,107
Speaker 13: Get a Chris yet a mate a from Australia. I'm

1253
01:00:09,187 --> 01:00:12,147
Speaker 13: a fifty to fifty on this Test match because that's

1254
01:00:12,227 --> 01:00:17,307
Speaker 13: a really good English four pack and I'm, you know,

1255
01:00:17,947 --> 01:00:21,867
Speaker 13: normally very confident in the All Blacks, but we've got

1256
01:00:21,907 --> 01:00:25,787
Speaker 13: a few key players out and a few people in

1257
01:00:25,907 --> 01:00:29,827
Speaker 13: positions that I don't particularly think should be there. So

1258
01:00:30,587 --> 01:00:33,507
Speaker 13: this is going to be a humdinger of a Test

1259
01:00:34,267 --> 01:00:37,227
Speaker 13: and it's going to be tight, just like last week.

1260
01:00:38,107 --> 01:00:40,347
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you feel the same way pre last week?

1261
01:00:40,427 --> 01:00:40,587
Speaker 17: Chris?

1262
01:00:40,747 --> 01:00:43,267
Speaker 2: Is that how you felt? If we take it back

1263
01:00:43,347 --> 01:00:47,307
Speaker 2: exactly a week last Saturday afternoon? Do you feel more

1264
01:00:47,547 --> 01:00:49,787
Speaker 2: or less optimistic having seen them play once?

1265
01:00:53,187 --> 01:00:57,307
Speaker 13: I would say less because the English would do their review.

1266
01:00:57,587 --> 01:01:01,107
Speaker 13: They missed a lot of kicks and you know a

1267
01:01:01,147 --> 01:01:03,907
Speaker 13: lot of kickers that haven't played at that stadium. Down

1268
01:01:03,987 --> 01:01:07,507
Speaker 13: and Dunedin do miss a lot of kicks because of

1269
01:01:07,667 --> 01:01:11,707
Speaker 13: all the the structure of the stadium being white instead

1270
01:01:11,747 --> 01:01:14,867
Speaker 13: of a gray they do miss goalkicks. So I think

1271
01:01:14,907 --> 01:01:16,747
Speaker 13: the English team are going to be up for this game.

1272
01:01:16,867 --> 01:01:21,907
Speaker 13: So for the confidence going into this next game, yes,

1273
01:01:21,907 --> 01:01:24,507
Speaker 13: I'm always confident in the All Blacks. At the same time,

1274
01:01:25,387 --> 01:01:28,147
Speaker 13: if anyone's going to trip us up at Eden Park,

1275
01:01:28,227 --> 01:01:30,627
Speaker 13: I think this will be this English team today.

1276
01:01:32,267 --> 01:01:32,467
Speaker 25: Yeah.

1277
01:01:32,827 --> 01:01:36,107
Speaker 2: Look, it's not beyond the realms of possibility, Chris, obviously.

1278
01:01:36,147 --> 01:01:38,827
Speaker 2: And every time you know, two decent teams play one another,

1279
01:01:38,987 --> 01:01:41,667
Speaker 2: one possible result is that is the other decent team

1280
01:01:41,747 --> 01:01:44,067
Speaker 2: beats our decent team. I just I don't know, I

1281
01:01:44,867 --> 01:01:46,867
Speaker 2: feel I don't I wouldn't say fifty to fifty. I

1282
01:01:46,987 --> 01:01:49,227
Speaker 2: kind of feel like a seventy thirty. But then that

1283
01:01:49,347 --> 01:01:51,627
Speaker 2: might just be completely biased on my part.

1284
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Speaker 14: Hey, look, I.

1285
01:01:55,947 --> 01:01:58,307
Speaker 13: Love the confidence, and we've got that good home ground

1286
01:01:58,387 --> 01:02:02,107
Speaker 13: record at the Garden of Eden as has been mentioned,

1287
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Speaker 13: But like that's the type of thing that a sports

1288
01:02:05,307 --> 01:02:10,187
Speaker 13: player would want to to beat. I mean, it was

1289
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Speaker 13: the French that got us last time there in ninety four,

1290
01:02:13,027 --> 01:02:15,707
Speaker 13: and these English players, they didn't come to New Zealand

1291
01:02:15,747 --> 01:02:19,147
Speaker 13: to lose to il So for me, I'm looking at

1292
01:02:19,147 --> 01:02:23,547
Speaker 13: the way the English played, and they lost that Test

1293
01:02:23,627 --> 01:02:27,267
Speaker 13: to us in Dunedin because they missed more kicks, so

1294
01:02:27,667 --> 01:02:29,707
Speaker 13: then they shut us down in the second half. So

1295
01:02:29,907 --> 01:02:33,387
Speaker 13: this is going to be a Titanic Test match.

1296
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Speaker 8: You know.

1297
01:02:34,267 --> 01:02:37,187
Speaker 13: We've been used to thinking of England the yeah, we

1298
01:02:37,227 --> 01:02:40,347
Speaker 13: can just beat them, and that's how we go about things.

1299
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Speaker 13: And the only real true enemy in the last few

1300
01:02:44,667 --> 01:02:48,187
Speaker 13: years has been the Irish and the South Africans. But

1301
01:02:48,427 --> 01:02:50,627
Speaker 13: the English have got themselves right up there now, so

1302
01:02:51,787 --> 01:02:54,707
Speaker 13: you know, I will take the win no matter how

1303
01:02:54,787 --> 01:02:55,227
Speaker 13: we get it.

1304
01:02:56,267 --> 01:02:59,227
Speaker 2: I love your cool head at analysis, Chris. I love

1305
01:02:59,307 --> 01:03:02,267
Speaker 2: it made fantastic from you. If you get the opportunity

1306
01:03:02,267 --> 01:03:03,707
Speaker 2: to call us tomorrow, mate, let's have a chat in

1307
01:03:03,747 --> 01:03:06,227
Speaker 2: twenty four hours and see how it all plays.

1308
01:03:07,587 --> 01:03:10,907
Speaker 13: No dramas unless we lose. Then I'll be crying myself

1309
01:03:10,947 --> 01:03:11,107
Speaker 13: for the.

1310
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Speaker 11: Scrower good man.

1311
01:03:15,187 --> 01:03:17,867
Speaker 2: Oh so good mate, so good. Thanks for calling in

1312
01:03:17,907 --> 01:03:18,507
Speaker 2: from Australia.

1313
01:03:18,587 --> 01:03:18,747
Speaker 8: Chris.

1314
01:03:18,867 --> 01:03:22,227
Speaker 2: Love chatting sport with you. Oh one hundred and eighty

1315
01:03:22,267 --> 01:03:23,867
Speaker 2: ten eighty spear line. If you want to jump a board,

1316
01:03:23,867 --> 01:03:27,227
Speaker 2: pick up on anything like I say, I feel more well.

1317
01:03:27,867 --> 01:03:29,467
Speaker 2: I don't know whether I feel more optimistic. I'm just

1318
01:03:29,467 --> 01:03:32,147
Speaker 2: trying to remember how I felt when I was bringing

1319
01:03:32,227 --> 01:03:34,627
Speaker 2: you the show from Forsyth bar Stadium a week ago.

1320
01:03:34,787 --> 01:03:38,947
Speaker 2: Whether I felt more optimistic then than I do now.

1321
01:03:39,147 --> 01:03:42,227
Speaker 2: I think it's about the same, if I'm honest. I'm

1322
01:03:42,307 --> 01:03:44,787
Speaker 2: not sure that I can say that I was vastly

1323
01:03:44,867 --> 01:03:47,467
Speaker 2: more confident then or today. I think we'll win, but

1324
01:03:47,507 --> 01:03:49,267
Speaker 2: then I think the All Blacks will win every Test match.

1325
01:03:49,347 --> 01:03:52,187
Speaker 2: That's just how I feel as an All Blacks fan,

1326
01:03:52,987 --> 01:03:57,667
Speaker 2: especially at home, especially at Eden Park, where as we know,

1327
01:03:58,467 --> 01:04:01,307
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety four was the last time anybody came out

1328
01:04:01,347 --> 01:04:03,067
Speaker 2: here played the All Blacks in a Test and won.

1329
01:04:03,667 --> 01:04:07,547
Speaker 2: Really interesting though the English approach to this during the

1330
01:04:07,587 --> 01:04:11,187
Speaker 2: week when asked about the record at Eden Park and

1331
01:04:11,227 --> 01:04:14,627
Speaker 2: whether it's something that factors into their thinking, and a

1332
01:04:14,707 --> 01:04:16,707
Speaker 2: couple of them have said, look, that's not our record,

1333
01:04:17,987 --> 01:04:21,307
Speaker 2: that's the All Blacks record, that's their record to worry about.

1334
01:04:21,427 --> 01:04:25,627
Speaker 2: We're not factoring it in at all to our thinking.

1335
01:04:25,787 --> 01:04:29,307
Speaker 2: This is the All Blacks record to defend. We're just

1336
01:04:29,387 --> 01:04:31,947
Speaker 2: treating it as another Test match, which I guess they're

1337
01:04:31,987 --> 01:04:33,267
Speaker 2: going to say, aren't they they're not going to come

1338
01:04:33,267 --> 01:04:35,707
Speaker 2: out and say, you know, we're scared stuff of playing

1339
01:04:35,707 --> 01:04:37,587
Speaker 2: at a place where no one's won for thirty years.

1340
01:04:38,507 --> 01:04:42,067
Speaker 2: But I also wonder whether at some point it becomes

1341
01:04:43,347 --> 01:04:51,427
Speaker 2: not a burden necessarily, but an unnecessary distraction. Perhaps. Do

1342
01:04:51,587 --> 01:04:53,507
Speaker 2: you go out there thinking, Man, we haven't lost ever

1343
01:04:53,587 --> 01:04:54,547
Speaker 2: so long. I don't want to be part of the

1344
01:04:54,547 --> 01:04:57,067
Speaker 2: all Black side that loses at eden Park. At some

1345
01:04:57,347 --> 01:05:00,107
Speaker 2: point history tells us at some point these records fall

1346
01:05:00,987 --> 01:05:01,667
Speaker 2: could be tonight.

1347
01:05:02,387 --> 01:05:04,467
Speaker 26: Is there a point pointing where we've gone over the

1348
01:05:04,507 --> 01:05:06,147
Speaker 26: limit of being confident at Eden Park?

1349
01:05:06,467 --> 01:05:06,587
Speaker 19: Now?

1350
01:05:06,627 --> 01:05:10,747
Speaker 26: Were scared ourselves of Eden Park? Because I don't think so?

1351
01:05:11,187 --> 01:05:14,307
Speaker 26: Because oh no, what if we lose? We're one so

1352
01:05:14,507 --> 01:05:15,987
Speaker 26: often here? Are we so embarrassing?

1353
01:05:16,067 --> 01:05:16,227
Speaker 2: Yet?

1354
01:05:16,387 --> 01:05:21,027
Speaker 26: Yet the embarrassment really is unwarranted because we haven't lost

1355
01:05:21,107 --> 01:05:23,227
Speaker 26: here for thirty years. I've not been alive for a

1356
01:05:23,387 --> 01:05:25,507
Speaker 26: All Blacks Eden Park lost Piney.

1357
01:05:25,907 --> 01:05:29,347
Speaker 2: That is amazing. Well, you're you're you're in the majority

1358
01:05:29,387 --> 01:05:31,107
Speaker 2: as far as the All Blacks are concerned, as well

1359
01:05:31,427 --> 01:05:34,787
Speaker 2: of the twenty three Tonight seventeen when it weren't born

1360
01:05:34,827 --> 01:05:37,347
Speaker 2: in ninety four either. I don't know what it feels

1361
01:05:37,467 --> 01:05:40,307
Speaker 2: like to be alive when the All Blacks have lost

1362
01:05:40,307 --> 01:05:42,867
Speaker 2: at Eden Park. I mean there was that that line's

1363
01:05:42,987 --> 01:05:45,747
Speaker 2: drawer a few years ago, and that that felt weird

1364
01:05:45,867 --> 01:05:48,267
Speaker 2: for me. Think, man, I thought we were invincible here,

1365
01:05:48,347 --> 01:05:51,307
Speaker 2: but that's what happens when all the home nations combined.

1366
01:05:51,427 --> 01:05:56,027
Speaker 2: So yeah, but again, like I said, are we scared, Well,

1367
01:05:56,067 --> 01:06:00,387
Speaker 2: I'm not scared. Are you scared? Of course not. I

1368
01:06:00,627 --> 01:06:04,027
Speaker 2: just I didn't think you were. You're pretty indestructible when

1369
01:06:04,067 --> 01:06:07,467
Speaker 2: it comes to this sort of thing. Andy. The other draw. Incidentally,

1370
01:06:07,947 --> 01:06:12,187
Speaker 2: I was reminded during the week the other draw, because

1371
01:06:12,427 --> 01:06:15,587
Speaker 2: there have been forty eight test matches here since that

1372
01:06:15,707 --> 01:06:18,827
Speaker 2: defeat by France. Two of them have been draws. The

1373
01:06:18,907 --> 01:06:21,467
Speaker 2: one that Andy was just talking about the fifteen all

1374
01:06:21,587 --> 01:06:25,627
Speaker 2: draw with the touring British and Irish Lions in twenty seventeen.

1375
01:06:25,707 --> 01:06:30,187
Speaker 2: The other one was the test immediately following the lost

1376
01:06:30,267 --> 01:06:33,347
Speaker 2: to France. It was an eighteen all draw with South

1377
01:06:33,387 --> 01:06:37,467
Speaker 2: Africa in nineteen ninety four, the first test at Eden

1378
01:06:37,547 --> 01:06:40,307
Speaker 2: Park following the lost to France. So they lost to

1379
01:06:40,347 --> 01:06:42,147
Speaker 2: France and the next time they came back they drew

1380
01:06:42,627 --> 01:06:46,747
Speaker 2: with South Africa. But they've won forty six of forty

1381
01:06:46,787 --> 01:06:50,467
Speaker 2: eight here since that day in July. It's actually thirty

1382
01:06:50,547 --> 01:06:53,987
Speaker 2: years and ten days ago, so you know, give or take,

1383
01:06:54,067 --> 01:06:58,547
Speaker 2: it's basically thirty years Tony Errick. And there could be

1384
01:06:58,587 --> 01:06:59,267
Speaker 2: a draw tonight.

1385
01:07:00,387 --> 01:07:03,387
Speaker 8: I reckon it's a possibility, so it's strange it.

1386
01:07:03,387 --> 01:07:04,227
Speaker 13: Things have happened.

1387
01:07:06,667 --> 01:07:10,347
Speaker 2: That's true. That's true. Look like last week sixteen fifteen

1388
01:07:10,507 --> 01:07:15,267
Speaker 2: shows how close these two teams are. Absolutely and some

1389
01:07:15,587 --> 01:07:17,787
Speaker 2: some has also said they pointed it out last week

1390
01:07:17,827 --> 01:07:19,907
Speaker 2: as well, Tony, And I'm sure this hasn't a scaped

1391
01:07:19,947 --> 01:07:23,107
Speaker 2: your attention. If England had had kicked the points on

1392
01:07:23,187 --> 01:07:25,467
Speaker 2: offer and New Zealand had kicked the points on offer,

1393
01:07:25,507 --> 01:07:28,267
Speaker 2: which was including the time to out kicked by Damien McKenzie,

1394
01:07:28,667 --> 01:07:29,627
Speaker 2: it would have been a drawer.

1395
01:07:30,907 --> 01:07:31,467
Speaker 8: That's true.

1396
01:07:32,467 --> 01:07:36,027
Speaker 17: And I think I can't remember how long had I

1397
01:07:36,187 --> 01:07:38,947
Speaker 17: started doing it. It was certainly before the last World Cut,

1398
01:07:39,427 --> 01:07:41,827
Speaker 17: and there were any number of draws, and the draws,

1399
01:07:42,147 --> 01:07:44,387
Speaker 17: I mean the draw tonight's being over one hundred bucks.

1400
01:07:47,187 --> 01:07:48,907
Speaker 2: Sorry I just missed that last but that Tony, I

1401
01:07:49,027 --> 01:07:50,787
Speaker 2: was just getting a bit of information in my year,

1402
01:07:50,827 --> 01:07:51,747
Speaker 2: what was one hundred bucks?

1403
01:07:52,627 --> 01:07:55,787
Speaker 17: Well, the draw tonight is over one hundred bucks at

1404
01:07:55,827 --> 01:08:01,147
Speaker 17: the CB for one hundred, sorry, one hundred for five dollars,

1405
01:08:04,147 --> 01:08:05,947
Speaker 17: twenty dollars for the draw?

1406
01:08:06,627 --> 01:08:08,147
Speaker 2: Have you got Have you got your five dollars on

1407
01:08:08,187 --> 01:08:08,587
Speaker 2: at Tony?

1408
01:08:09,547 --> 01:08:11,467
Speaker 17: I think I think I'm just going to check on that.

1409
01:08:11,587 --> 01:08:16,867
Speaker 17: I yes, I got my ticket. England they pay eighteen

1410
01:08:16,987 --> 01:08:17,907
Speaker 17: dollars and the draw.

1411
01:08:18,107 --> 01:08:18,627
Speaker 18: No, it's.

1412
01:08:20,987 --> 01:08:21,347
Speaker 5: What is it?

1413
01:08:21,467 --> 01:08:22,787
Speaker 11: Twenty one dollars for the draw?

1414
01:08:23,147 --> 01:08:24,827
Speaker 2: Yep? So what's one hundred and five bucks on your

1415
01:08:24,867 --> 01:08:25,467
Speaker 2: five dollar bit?

1416
01:08:26,427 --> 01:08:26,627
Speaker 16: Yeah?

1417
01:08:26,787 --> 01:08:29,307
Speaker 17: Now it's not so silly. Remember there that there was

1418
01:08:29,547 --> 01:08:31,827
Speaker 17: some silly drawers in the World Cup, and I recall

1419
01:08:31,947 --> 01:08:35,587
Speaker 17: getting several hundred dollars off one draw. It might have

1420
01:08:35,627 --> 01:08:39,387
Speaker 17: been Argentina or did Argentina beat us or something like that?

1421
01:08:40,867 --> 01:08:43,067
Speaker 2: Well, Argentina bad Us a couple of years ago in christyitch,

1422
01:08:43,227 --> 01:08:44,267
Speaker 2: I remember that? Well?

1423
01:08:44,907 --> 01:08:45,067
Speaker 12: Right?

1424
01:08:45,307 --> 01:08:45,507
Speaker 18: Yeah?

1425
01:08:45,747 --> 01:08:49,667
Speaker 17: So, and I've put five dollars on the opposition and

1426
01:08:49,747 --> 01:08:52,627
Speaker 17: five dollars on the draw every All Black Test match

1427
01:08:53,107 --> 01:08:54,187
Speaker 17: and I'm streets ahead.

1428
01:08:55,067 --> 01:08:57,107
Speaker 2: You sound like you're an England supporter anyway, Tony.

1429
01:08:57,627 --> 01:09:00,267
Speaker 17: Well, no, no, I've lived here. I'm a New Zealand

1430
01:09:00,347 --> 01:09:04,147
Speaker 17: citizen and I've lived here for over fifty years. Love

1431
01:09:04,187 --> 01:09:08,427
Speaker 17: it well, I learned watching watch in England play its

1432
01:09:08,467 --> 01:09:10,347
Speaker 17: Athletic Park in the old Millard Stand.

1433
01:09:10,747 --> 01:09:15,587
Speaker 2: Oh wow, how good? Speaking of nostalgia. Yeah, I was

1434
01:09:15,627 --> 01:09:18,907
Speaker 2: talking to somebody about about Athletic Park during the week.

1435
01:09:18,947 --> 01:09:22,787
Speaker 2: You know how steep the Millard Stand was. It almost

1436
01:09:22,787 --> 01:09:25,187
Speaker 2: felt like you were going to topple forward. Forsyth Bar

1437
01:09:25,267 --> 01:09:27,867
Speaker 2: Stadium is pretty similar actually in terms of it of

1438
01:09:27,987 --> 01:09:32,027
Speaker 2: its gradients as you as you walk down. It reminded

1439
01:09:32,067 --> 01:09:33,747
Speaker 2: me last week actually of the Millard Stand.

1440
01:09:34,867 --> 01:09:37,147
Speaker 17: Yeah, and I think, well, I don't know how long

1441
01:09:37,187 --> 01:09:39,427
Speaker 17: it's been gone it's been, because I mean we're going

1442
01:09:39,507 --> 01:09:41,907
Speaker 17: back a few decades now. But I used to work

1443
01:09:41,947 --> 01:09:45,907
Speaker 17: at the Tramway Hotel which you may remember, yes, and

1444
01:09:46,027 --> 01:09:49,707
Speaker 17: then I finished finished work a bit after the morning

1445
01:09:49,787 --> 01:09:51,667
Speaker 17: shift whatever it was, and just walked up to the

1446
01:09:51,787 --> 01:09:54,307
Speaker 17: park and I only lived up the hill in Kingston.

1447
01:09:55,987 --> 01:09:59,067
Speaker 2: Amazing, well Tony. I hope, I hope for your wallet

1448
01:09:59,787 --> 01:10:03,067
Speaker 2: that it's a drawer, because that's a nice little collect

1449
01:10:03,147 --> 01:10:06,307
Speaker 2: for you. The other one, which obviously a few people

1450
01:10:06,387 --> 01:10:09,347
Speaker 2: collected on last weekend was the draw. You can bet

1451
01:10:09,467 --> 01:10:11,867
Speaker 2: on a drawer at half or full time, and of

1452
01:10:11,947 --> 01:10:13,627
Speaker 2: course last week it was ten all at half time,

1453
01:10:13,707 --> 01:10:16,747
Speaker 2: so you collect on the halftime draw. Of course, a

1454
01:10:16,787 --> 01:10:18,267
Speaker 2: lot of people talked about that that the All Black

1455
01:10:18,267 --> 01:10:20,067
Speaker 2: should have kicked the ball out gone and at ten

1456
01:10:20,107 --> 01:10:23,467
Speaker 2: to seven ahead, didn't gave away a penalty which was

1457
01:10:23,547 --> 01:10:24,947
Speaker 2: kicked and all of a sudden it is a draw

1458
01:10:24,947 --> 01:10:28,987
Speaker 2: at half time. I feel like I feel like the

1459
01:10:29,027 --> 01:10:31,027
Speaker 2: All Blacks will win tonight, but I said that before Tony.

1460
01:10:31,147 --> 01:10:33,627
Speaker 2: It's not a bad bet the draw. Thanks for calling him, mate,

1461
01:10:33,987 --> 01:10:37,467
Speaker 2: I hope you enjoy the game tonight. Naki chopped from

1462
01:10:37,467 --> 01:10:40,067
Speaker 2: the nack. He says, we'll thrace them. Don't panic. England

1463
01:10:40,067 --> 01:10:41,507
Speaker 2: won't approve much, but we will.

1464
01:10:42,787 --> 01:10:42,947
Speaker 18: Yeah.

1465
01:10:43,467 --> 01:10:45,547
Speaker 2: I get the feeling. England, just like us, have a

1466
01:10:45,587 --> 01:10:46,387
Speaker 2: frame of reference.

1467
01:10:46,467 --> 01:10:46,587
Speaker 19: Now.

1468
01:10:47,387 --> 01:10:49,467
Speaker 2: Barry says, we don't give England the credit they're due.

1469
01:10:49,787 --> 01:10:52,907
Speaker 2: They beat Ireland. They should have bet in South Africa

1470
01:10:52,987 --> 01:10:55,227
Speaker 2: in the World Cup semi final. It was only a

1471
01:10:55,267 --> 01:10:58,947
Speaker 2: one point lost last week, Barry, three very good points.

1472
01:10:59,507 --> 01:11:00,987
Speaker 2: I think we made those points last week in the

1473
01:11:01,067 --> 01:11:03,267
Speaker 2: lead up to the first Test. This is not a

1474
01:11:03,387 --> 01:11:09,667
Speaker 2: bad side, it's a very very good rugby team. Lisa

1475
01:11:09,747 --> 01:11:12,827
Speaker 2: says Jason. This week you are displaying confidence for an

1476
01:11:12,827 --> 01:11:15,747
Speaker 2: All Black swim. However, last weekend you were more of

1477
01:11:15,827 --> 01:11:19,627
Speaker 2: a cocky confident. So I do see a little bit

1478
01:11:19,627 --> 01:11:22,587
Speaker 2: of difference between this week and last week. Lisa, that

1479
01:11:22,747 --> 01:11:27,387
Speaker 2: is excellent from you. That is excellent. I didn't mean

1480
01:11:27,467 --> 01:11:29,787
Speaker 2: to be cocky last week, but obviously came across in

1481
01:11:29,867 --> 01:11:33,947
Speaker 2: that way. I appreciate very much your call. So maybe, yeah,

1482
01:11:33,987 --> 01:11:37,187
Speaker 2: maybe that's it. Maybe last week I was cocky. Today

1483
01:11:37,227 --> 01:11:41,707
Speaker 2: I'm just confident. It's twenty to two. We'll take a break,

1484
01:11:41,747 --> 01:11:43,787
Speaker 2: come back and get across the Tasman. Adam Peacock out

1485
01:11:43,787 --> 01:11:44,867
Speaker 2: of Australia right after.

1486
01:11:44,787 --> 01:11:49,867
Speaker 1: This lay from the Fortress eden Park, It's weekend Sport

1487
01:11:50,107 --> 01:11:54,307
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1488
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1489
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Speaker 2: It'd be just on sixteen and a half away from

1490
01:11:58,387 --> 01:12:01,107
Speaker 2: two broadcasting Life from eden Park, All Blacks, England. Tonight,

1491
01:12:01,227 --> 01:12:04,067
Speaker 2: Let's get you across the Tasman, though our Australian correspondent

1492
01:12:04,107 --> 01:12:06,507
Speaker 2: Adam Peacocks with us. I feel like every week now

1493
01:12:06,547 --> 01:12:08,187
Speaker 2: I need to ask you about the weather, but I

1494
01:12:08,307 --> 01:12:10,667
Speaker 2: do it with a sense of impending doom.

1495
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Speaker 9: Sunday today, Pinee, what that's the exact opposite, the polar

1496
01:12:18,347 --> 01:12:23,347
Speaker 9: opposite to the standard of golf that I provided draw

1497
01:12:23,427 --> 01:12:26,627
Speaker 9: a long route this morning. It was garbage anyway, it

1498
01:12:26,787 --> 01:12:29,867
Speaker 9: was put it this way. Eddie Jones is coaching tenure

1499
01:12:29,907 --> 01:12:32,067
Speaker 9: as the Wallabies that just finished last year was better

1500
01:12:32,307 --> 01:12:33,187
Speaker 9: than my golf today.

1501
01:12:33,507 --> 01:12:36,827
Speaker 2: Well that is quite the low bar. That is quite

1502
01:12:36,867 --> 01:12:37,387
Speaker 2: the low bar.

1503
01:12:38,027 --> 01:12:38,347
Speaker 19: All right.

1504
01:12:38,387 --> 01:12:40,587
Speaker 2: Well let's start there actually with the Wallabies they take

1505
01:12:40,627 --> 01:12:44,227
Speaker 2: on Wales tonight. Joe Schmidt's tenure as Wallaby's coach started

1506
01:12:44,227 --> 01:12:48,107
Speaker 2: with victory last weekend. Confidence that that he'll make it

1507
01:12:48,187 --> 01:12:50,867
Speaker 2: two from Tuban Melbourne tonight against Wales.

1508
01:12:51,787 --> 01:12:54,427
Speaker 9: Yeah, pretty high. I mean, let's face that Wales aren't

1509
01:12:54,827 --> 01:12:57,387
Speaker 9: the best that's coming down from the Northern Hemisphere and

1510
01:12:57,587 --> 01:12:59,827
Speaker 9: end of a long season for them as well. But

1511
01:13:00,547 --> 01:13:04,907
Speaker 9: it was just a solid start. Didn't exactly think, oh wow,

1512
01:13:05,067 --> 01:13:08,947
Speaker 9: this is the the you rejuvenation of the Wallabies that

1513
01:13:09,027 --> 01:13:10,907
Speaker 9: we've all been craving. It's just a little step in

1514
01:13:10,907 --> 01:13:14,347
Speaker 9: the right direction. But he's had to shuffle around this

1515
01:13:14,507 --> 01:13:17,427
Speaker 9: week week to week given international rockey being so physically,

1516
01:13:17,507 --> 01:13:19,267
Speaker 9: you expect a week to week when you're paying back

1517
01:13:19,267 --> 01:13:23,067
Speaker 9: to back test. But James Slipper comes back in as captain.

1518
01:13:23,827 --> 01:13:27,267
Speaker 9: He was asked actually midweek about Eddie's famous line on

1519
01:13:27,307 --> 01:13:30,907
Speaker 9: that stand Sport Dot about how that Wallaby's not being

1520
01:13:30,947 --> 01:13:34,627
Speaker 9: tough enough. James politely declined to get reinvolved in that

1521
01:13:34,907 --> 01:13:37,747
Speaker 9: and let it go. But yeah, I think that's what

1522
01:13:38,107 --> 01:13:40,667
Speaker 9: exactly behind the scenes that they're trying to trying to build.

1523
01:13:40,747 --> 01:13:42,947
Speaker 9: It's just steady base and then operate off the back

1524
01:13:42,987 --> 01:13:46,667
Speaker 9: of that. But depth is an issue to the new

1525
01:13:46,747 --> 01:13:49,747
Speaker 9: guy and it always will be in Australian rug everyone

1526
01:13:50,267 --> 01:13:52,187
Speaker 9: back to the Michael Checker days, like he was copying

1527
01:13:52,227 --> 01:13:55,427
Speaker 9: it for not playing the right people. But man, you

1528
01:13:55,547 --> 01:13:57,107
Speaker 9: just don't have a hell of a lot of cattle

1529
01:13:57,147 --> 01:13:59,507
Speaker 9: to choose from. So yeah, they should get through tonight.

1530
01:13:59,587 --> 01:14:01,387
Speaker 9: But see how they build for the Rugby Championship.

1531
01:14:01,667 --> 01:14:03,787
Speaker 2: Indeed, we'll look forward to watching that after the All

1532
01:14:03,827 --> 01:14:06,267
Speaker 2: Blacks England game here on the side of the Tasman

1533
01:14:06,747 --> 01:14:09,307
Speaker 2: as we'll look forward to the State of Origin decider

1534
01:14:09,907 --> 01:14:13,387
Speaker 2: on Wednesday. What's the mail around, what's the three or

1535
01:14:13,427 --> 01:14:16,387
Speaker 2: four day out from the game? Talk centering around.

1536
01:14:17,107 --> 01:14:19,387
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's got a bit dormant. Early in the week

1537
01:14:19,467 --> 01:14:23,227
Speaker 9: it reignited that Gordon tallis Queensland legend, came out and

1538
01:14:23,387 --> 01:14:26,307
Speaker 9: said that the Blue's got a big grubby with some

1539
01:14:26,387 --> 01:14:29,067
Speaker 9: of their antics in the second game. I mean, I

1540
01:14:29,067 --> 01:14:30,867
Speaker 9: don't how grubby you can be when you're thirty four

1541
01:14:30,907 --> 01:14:34,427
Speaker 9: mil up. There are other issues for Queensland to worry about.

1542
01:14:34,427 --> 01:14:35,627
Speaker 9: I would have thought out of the back of that

1543
01:14:35,707 --> 01:14:38,627
Speaker 9: first half down at mcg but I get his point

1544
01:14:39,067 --> 01:14:42,587
Speaker 9: a little niggaly because are on top and emotion high

1545
01:14:42,667 --> 01:14:45,387
Speaker 9: and everything like that. And then basically if Michael a

1546
01:14:45,427 --> 01:14:47,427
Speaker 9: guy used the same line as he did to Billy

1547
01:14:47,467 --> 01:14:51,307
Speaker 9: Slater about glass House saying that Gordyckbody didn't mind have

1548
01:14:51,347 --> 01:14:54,187
Speaker 9: been a nigga himself. That dominated the first few days.

1549
01:14:54,267 --> 01:14:56,627
Speaker 9: But since then it's been pretty quiet, and I think

1550
01:14:56,667 --> 01:14:59,507
Speaker 9: it's become before what will be in a mighty still

1551
01:14:59,547 --> 01:15:02,107
Speaker 9: next Wednesday. It would be some game, but footy at

1552
01:15:02,347 --> 01:15:04,787
Speaker 9: some uncorporstating because Queensland will be better and whether or

1553
01:15:04,827 --> 01:15:07,507
Speaker 9: not your supp Wales will be as good will define

1554
01:15:07,667 --> 01:15:09,347
Speaker 9: what happens with this. That of origin series.

1555
01:15:09,747 --> 01:15:12,067
Speaker 2: Home advantage is a big advantage, and I think we

1556
01:15:12,107 --> 01:15:14,387
Speaker 2: spoke last week about how long it's been since New

1557
01:15:14,467 --> 01:15:18,067
Speaker 2: South Wales one a deciding Game three in Brisbane. So

1558
01:15:18,827 --> 01:15:20,187
Speaker 2: I don't know, what do you say, is it a

1559
01:15:20,267 --> 01:15:22,547
Speaker 2: four point five point advantage. What does it actually you

1560
01:15:22,587 --> 01:15:23,947
Speaker 2: know does how does it translate?

1561
01:15:25,587 --> 01:15:28,027
Speaker 9: I can't put a point differential on it, but what

1562
01:15:28,107 --> 01:15:30,507
Speaker 9: I can do is say that one hundred quick kilo

1563
01:15:30,587 --> 01:15:33,187
Speaker 9: prop like a Ruben Codder will probably play like one

1564
01:15:33,267 --> 01:15:37,387
Speaker 9: hundred and twenty kilo wrecking ball because of the enthusiasm

1565
01:15:37,467 --> 01:15:40,267
Speaker 9: that will be surrounded by sun Corpse Stadium. They'll play

1566
01:15:40,267 --> 01:15:43,467
Speaker 9: above themselves the Queensland pack. They need to because they

1567
01:15:43,507 --> 01:15:46,867
Speaker 9: were completely and I'm just saying they're beaten. They were

1568
01:15:46,947 --> 01:15:50,347
Speaker 9: obliterated in the game in Melbourne right through the middle.

1569
01:15:50,387 --> 01:15:53,627
Speaker 9: That's when you South Wales just put a gap between

1570
01:15:53,827 --> 01:15:57,107
Speaker 9: themselves and the opposition. So if queens Bank can find

1571
01:15:57,187 --> 01:15:59,107
Speaker 9: a way to get parody by any way they want,

1572
01:15:59,387 --> 01:16:02,267
Speaker 9: whether it be their own performances or writing that emotion,

1573
01:16:02,667 --> 01:16:04,547
Speaker 9: they just have to. They simply cannot come up with

1574
01:16:04,587 --> 01:16:06,907
Speaker 9: a performance like they did in that first half in

1575
01:16:06,947 --> 01:16:10,067
Speaker 9: Melbourne because it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter how New

1576
01:16:10,107 --> 01:16:11,827
Speaker 9: South I was playing. With Queensland get blown away in

1577
01:16:11,827 --> 01:16:13,907
Speaker 9: the middle of the rock with the rest of the game,

1578
01:16:13,987 --> 01:16:17,747
Speaker 9: well that they're no hope. So yeah, that will what

1579
01:16:18,227 --> 01:16:21,467
Speaker 9: the forwards for Queensland do will pretty much determine what happens.

1580
01:16:21,147 --> 01:16:25,307
Speaker 2: With the contest compulsory reviewing Wednesday night for that one.

1581
01:16:25,587 --> 01:16:29,067
Speaker 2: The Olympics are rushing up fast. The Australian Olympics team

1582
01:16:29,107 --> 01:16:32,747
Speaker 2: has been finalized forty six medals last time out, including

1583
01:16:32,827 --> 01:16:36,587
Speaker 2: seventeen gold in Tokyo. Does it feel like that will

1584
01:16:36,667 --> 01:16:38,347
Speaker 2: be surpassed in Paris?

1585
01:16:39,667 --> 01:16:42,227
Speaker 9: I don't know about the gold I was doing some summers,

1586
01:16:42,267 --> 01:16:45,467
Speaker 9: especially with the swimming yesterday, crunching the numbers because swimming

1587
01:16:45,507 --> 01:16:48,547
Speaker 9: is an easy one to kind of define, because nothing's

1588
01:16:48,587 --> 01:16:50,587
Speaker 9: going to jump out from the top five in the

1589
01:16:50,667 --> 01:16:53,667
Speaker 9: world generally. And then suspicions or eyes if they are

1590
01:16:53,827 --> 01:16:56,827
Speaker 9: so your times from your trials, especially now that Australia

1591
01:16:56,867 --> 01:17:00,427
Speaker 9: has our trials pretty close to I've got a lockdown.

1592
01:17:00,787 --> 01:17:03,267
Speaker 9: Unless there's a catastrophe, we win five gold medals in

1593
01:17:03,307 --> 01:17:06,707
Speaker 9: the pool, and the outer limit of the expectation is

1594
01:17:06,747 --> 01:17:09,267
Speaker 9: fifteen gold medals in the pool alone't now, I'm not

1595
01:17:09,307 --> 01:17:11,547
Speaker 9: saying that's going to happen, but if everything went right

1596
01:17:11,587 --> 01:17:14,067
Speaker 9: and a few things went wrong with other countries that

1597
01:17:14,187 --> 01:17:17,027
Speaker 9: that that is an outside, outside chance. I think yeah,

1598
01:17:17,067 --> 01:17:19,827
Speaker 9: around the fifteen gold mark all up for the team

1599
01:17:20,147 --> 01:17:22,227
Speaker 9: and then I think we can better our metal tally

1600
01:17:22,307 --> 01:17:25,027
Speaker 9: because it's a bigger team, a lot of depths even

1601
01:17:25,107 --> 01:17:28,107
Speaker 9: in sports like athletics. Rowing will be good at pick

1602
01:17:28,187 --> 01:17:30,347
Speaker 9: up a few metal cycling they need to lift a bit,

1603
01:17:30,707 --> 01:17:33,867
Speaker 9: but a few here and there sports as well. I

1604
01:17:33,907 --> 01:17:36,107
Speaker 9: think where we can crack the half century in terms

1605
01:17:36,147 --> 01:17:38,147
Speaker 9: of overall metal camp. What's what's the go over? The

1606
01:17:38,227 --> 01:17:40,787
Speaker 9: key is that again I noticed that they've got like

1607
01:17:40,907 --> 01:17:42,787
Speaker 9: I don't have the depth that they've got. They've got

1608
01:17:42,827 --> 01:17:44,547
Speaker 9: a good swimmer or two, they've got a good roller

1609
01:17:44,667 --> 01:17:46,267
Speaker 9: or two. It's always the case with you guys.

1610
01:17:46,627 --> 01:17:48,907
Speaker 2: Indeed. Yeah, and we'll chuck sevens rugby in there. We

1611
01:17:48,947 --> 01:17:50,987
Speaker 2: always seem to meddle in both the men's and the

1612
01:17:51,027 --> 01:17:54,627
Speaker 2: women's there. Yeah, I think we was twenty in Tokyo.

1613
01:17:54,827 --> 01:17:58,267
Speaker 2: That seems optimistic this time around, I have to say,

1614
01:17:59,107 --> 01:18:01,067
Speaker 2: but who knows? And what always happens, as you know,

1615
01:18:01,147 --> 01:18:02,627
Speaker 2: and these are this is the beauty of the games,

1616
01:18:02,947 --> 01:18:05,107
Speaker 2: is that somebody who no one expects will get on

1617
01:18:05,147 --> 01:18:08,547
Speaker 2: that podium, you know, and and and the other thing

1618
01:18:08,627 --> 01:18:10,827
Speaker 2: I love is that we all become experts in wrestling

1619
01:18:10,987 --> 01:18:16,627
Speaker 2: and tramp and that's becomings dharm chair experts of these

1620
01:18:16,667 --> 01:18:18,187
Speaker 2: things we never ordinarily watch.

1621
01:18:19,267 --> 01:18:21,427
Speaker 9: Oh, like, you wouldn't believe how much I know about

1622
01:18:21,507 --> 01:18:28,147
Speaker 9: DMX freestyle. It's amazing. So it is right, it's just

1623
01:18:28,627 --> 01:18:30,227
Speaker 9: I love it. I love I love the World Cup

1624
01:18:30,267 --> 01:18:34,747
Speaker 9: obviously football Rugby union, yes, even though it's become a

1625
01:18:34,827 --> 01:18:37,747
Speaker 9: bit of the Northern's not nemessphere star mate with the

1626
01:18:37,827 --> 01:18:40,907
Speaker 9: way that rugby union World Cups are won. But Olympics

1627
01:18:40,987 --> 01:18:42,907
Speaker 9: is just something special because it throws so much at

1628
01:18:42,947 --> 01:18:45,267
Speaker 9: you in a short amount of time. So yeah, sixteen

1629
01:18:45,307 --> 01:18:47,307
Speaker 9: days of beliss Yeah, it's gonna.

1630
01:18:47,067 --> 01:18:49,507
Speaker 2: Be absolutely awesome. Just before you go. It was really

1631
01:18:49,547 --> 01:18:52,667
Speaker 2: sad to see Alex demon Or have to withdraw from Wimbledon.

1632
01:18:53,187 --> 01:18:55,387
Speaker 2: But a background on this. He had he was going

1633
01:18:55,467 --> 01:18:57,147
Speaker 2: to be playing Novak anyway, wasn't he So that would

1634
01:18:57,147 --> 01:18:58,667
Speaker 2: have been that would have been tough. But he had

1635
01:18:58,707 --> 01:18:59,867
Speaker 2: to pull out even before the game.

1636
01:19:00,947 --> 01:19:04,747
Speaker 9: Yeah, so he made the quarterfinal. But in his in

1637
01:19:04,827 --> 01:19:08,387
Speaker 9: his fourth round match, he was all over his appartment

1638
01:19:08,427 --> 01:19:13,227
Speaker 9: and just win Arterfield the Frenchman, and he was threat

1639
01:19:13,227 --> 01:19:14,907
Speaker 9: points from the end. He said he felt a crack

1640
01:19:14,987 --> 01:19:17,467
Speaker 9: in his hip. So he's done a like a little

1641
01:19:18,147 --> 01:19:20,747
Speaker 9: it's like a labrium tears like a cartilage in his hip,

1642
01:19:20,867 --> 01:19:23,747
Speaker 9: which hasn't completely gone, but if he kept going, it

1643
01:19:23,787 --> 01:19:27,067
Speaker 9: would have completely gone. And three four weeks becomes three

1644
01:19:27,107 --> 01:19:29,787
Speaker 9: four months and he wasn't willing to do that, which

1645
01:19:29,827 --> 01:19:31,987
Speaker 9: is fair enough. Unfortunately it probably cost him a spot

1646
01:19:32,027 --> 01:19:36,027
Speaker 9: at the Olympics. Demon and it's even worse because he

1647
01:19:36,227 --> 01:19:38,947
Speaker 9: was a punch his chance against Novak. He needed to

1648
01:19:38,947 --> 01:19:41,187
Speaker 9: play above himself and needed to take Novak out of

1649
01:19:41,227 --> 01:19:45,107
Speaker 9: his comfort zion. But yeah, it wasn't a good one

1650
01:19:45,147 --> 01:19:47,867
Speaker 9: to see because he's in career best forms. So a

1651
01:19:47,907 --> 01:19:49,907
Speaker 9: big wad if for Demon and I hope he can

1652
01:19:49,947 --> 01:19:51,867
Speaker 9: get back to full fitness and do something in the

1653
01:19:51,947 --> 01:19:52,387
Speaker 9: US Open.

1654
01:19:52,827 --> 01:19:53,067
Speaker 8: That's so.

1655
01:19:53,827 --> 01:19:56,267
Speaker 2: Enjoy the sunshine, mate, and let's check again next Saturday.

1656
01:19:57,227 --> 01:19:57,667
Speaker 11: Sounds good?

1657
01:19:57,787 --> 01:19:58,147
Speaker 10: Look it in?

1658
01:19:58,787 --> 01:20:02,747
Speaker 2: Yes? Adam Viacock, our Australian correspondent here, ran about this

1659
01:20:02,827 --> 01:20:06,107
Speaker 2: time every Saturday afternoon here on weekend sport always get

1660
01:20:06,107 --> 01:20:09,267
Speaker 2: to catch up with what's happening sportswise across the Tasman Sea.

1661
01:20:09,507 --> 01:20:11,587
Speaker 2: Eight and a half away from two news talksby.

1662
01:20:12,027 --> 01:20:14,507
Speaker 1: The pitch is ready? Are you live?

1663
01:20:14,627 --> 01:20:15,347
Speaker 8: From edyin Park?

1664
01:20:15,507 --> 01:20:18,547
Speaker 1: Ahead of All Blacks v England it's Weekends Ford with

1665
01:20:18,867 --> 01:20:23,067
Speaker 1: Jason Vine and TJ. Garnderhove's New Zealand's most trusted home

1666
01:20:23,147 --> 01:20:24,667
Speaker 1: builder US Dorks Ebby.

1667
01:20:25,307 --> 01:20:27,947
Speaker 2: It's five to two misses through here on text pint.

1668
01:20:27,987 --> 01:20:30,067
Speaker 2: Did you see Dane Coles turned out for PoTA Potamo

1669
01:20:30,187 --> 01:20:32,267
Speaker 2: rugby club last weekend? Yes, I did see that. That

1670
01:20:32,387 --> 01:20:36,067
Speaker 2: was terrific. Dane Coles of course called it a day

1671
01:20:36,147 --> 01:20:39,507
Speaker 2: on his Hurricanes career last year, then as All Black's

1672
01:20:39,547 --> 01:20:41,667
Speaker 2: career after the Rugby World Cup. Then he took up

1673
01:20:41,707 --> 01:20:46,067
Speaker 2: that contract in Japan, but he couldn't resist one final

1674
01:20:46,227 --> 01:20:50,547
Speaker 2: last hurrah for his club team on the Carpety Coast.

1675
01:20:50,827 --> 01:20:53,427
Speaker 2: He played at number eight for Potopo Amu in their

1676
01:20:53,507 --> 01:20:57,187
Speaker 2: final game of the season against Levin Athletic last weekend.

1677
01:20:57,707 --> 01:21:00,467
Speaker 2: Potapu won forty two to thirty nine. In fact, no,

1678
01:21:00,627 --> 01:21:03,227
Speaker 2: I'm sorry they lost forty two to thirty nine, but

1679
01:21:03,347 --> 01:21:04,667
Speaker 2: Dane Cole's got four tries.

1680
01:21:05,947 --> 01:21:06,227
Speaker 8: Love it.

1681
01:21:06,387 --> 01:21:10,147
Speaker 2: He always said that he wanted to finish back in

1682
01:21:10,387 --> 01:21:14,467
Speaker 2: the grassroots game and that is it now. He assures everybody,

1683
01:21:14,587 --> 01:21:17,067
Speaker 2: Dane Coles will not be playing anymore rugby. He's had

1684
01:21:17,067 --> 01:21:19,347
Speaker 2: his final game for the Hurricanes, final game for the

1685
01:21:19,427 --> 01:21:23,427
Speaker 2: All Blacks, his final professional hurrah in Japan and now

1686
01:21:23,907 --> 01:21:27,427
Speaker 2: his final club game. So Dane Cole's done, all done

1687
01:21:27,947 --> 01:21:31,667
Speaker 2: as far as rugby is concerned. What's the time, four

1688
01:21:31,747 --> 01:21:34,387
Speaker 2: to two. We're broadcasting live from Eden Park. We hope

1689
01:21:34,427 --> 01:21:38,187
Speaker 2: that we sort of help you through your afternoon. Bill

1690
01:21:38,227 --> 01:21:40,027
Speaker 2: Sweeney just said to me when he left before that

1691
01:21:40,347 --> 01:21:42,707
Speaker 2: it's always the hardest thing is to get through to

1692
01:21:42,827 --> 01:21:45,027
Speaker 2: game time. You've got all these hours to fill and

1693
01:21:45,107 --> 01:21:46,907
Speaker 2: not quite sure how you do it. And hopefully we

1694
01:21:46,987 --> 01:21:49,187
Speaker 2: can help to fill those gaps for you as part

1695
01:21:49,227 --> 01:21:52,227
Speaker 2: of your build up towards tonight after two o'clock, going

1696
01:21:52,307 --> 01:21:56,267
Speaker 2: to chat to luluson what a wonderful Wimbledon she had

1697
01:21:56,387 --> 01:21:58,987
Speaker 2: all the way to the quarterfinals, first New Zealander to

1698
01:21:58,987 --> 01:22:02,027
Speaker 2: make the quarterfinals at Wimbledon since Chris Lewis in nineteen

1699
01:22:02,187 --> 01:22:04,667
Speaker 2: eighty three. She is on the show. We'll also talk

1700
01:22:04,707 --> 01:22:08,467
Speaker 2: to Ben old Wellington, Phoenix youngster but not anymore. He

1701
01:22:08,547 --> 01:22:11,267
Speaker 2: signed for Saint Ettie En in France. Elevi Chat to

1702
01:22:11,387 --> 01:22:14,747
Speaker 2: us and the sale GP Grand Final this weekend in

1703
01:22:14,787 --> 01:22:17,027
Speaker 2: San Francisco. Peter Berling on the show.

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Speaker 1: The only plays for the big names, the big issues

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01:22:22,987 --> 01:22:27,867
Speaker 1: the big controversies and the big conversations. It's all on

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Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Vain on your home of Sport

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Speaker 1: News Talk said, be.

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Speaker 2: So seven, welcome back into the show. We're here for

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Speaker 2: another hour and then the weekend Collective Saturday edition hosted

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Speaker 2: today by Tyler Adams. He's in the chair from three

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Speaker 2: through until six, and then our build up towards the

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Speaker 2: test begins. I'll be back pretty much in the same

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Speaker 2: seat I think, from six o'clock bringing you build up

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Speaker 2: towards kickoff at seven. Elliott Smith, our rugby editor and

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Speaker 2: lead commentator with Frank Bunt's iconic All Blacks Center alongside

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01:23:03,627 --> 01:23:06,027
Speaker 2: fifty five test matches, sixty nine games and all Frank

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01:23:06,067 --> 01:23:09,587
Speaker 2: Bunces for the All Blacks. What a player. He's in

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Speaker 2: our combox tonight on It Down Sideline. We'll have full

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01:23:13,147 --> 01:23:16,227
Speaker 2: coverage for you, and then tomorrow we'll break it all

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01:23:16,267 --> 01:23:19,947
Speaker 2: down with your help. We'll still take your calls this hour.

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01:23:19,987 --> 01:23:22,747
Speaker 2: If you have some thoughts that you'd like to project

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01:23:23,067 --> 01:23:25,667
Speaker 2: to a wider audience, I will try and squeeze you

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Speaker 2: in amongst the other guests we have this hour, and

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Speaker 2: it's a good guest list. As well. Lulu Sun standing

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Speaker 2: by to chat with us after her run to the

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Speaker 2: quarterfinals at Wimbledon and the women's singles. She will team

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Speaker 2: up with Aaron Routliffe in the women's doubles at the

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Speaker 2: upcoming Paris Olympics. And Aaron Routliff herself is actually having

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01:23:43,987 --> 01:23:46,827
Speaker 2: a really nice time of things at Wimbledon. She's through

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Speaker 2: to the women's doubles final. So Lulu Sun shortly Ben

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01:23:52,067 --> 01:23:55,107
Speaker 2: Old what a season he had for Wellington Phoenix had

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Speaker 2: caught the eye of a number of clubs around the world,

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Speaker 2: including Saint Ettie Enn in France. They're in the top

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Speaker 2: French league League uh is what it's called. He's joined

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Speaker 2: them Old and will join us this out and the

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Speaker 2: sale GP Grand Final is in San Francisco across the

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01:24:13,187 --> 01:24:15,707
Speaker 2: next couple of days. It's when it takes all when

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01:24:15,747 --> 01:24:18,707
Speaker 2: it gets to the Grand Final. One race, three boats,

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01:24:19,067 --> 01:24:22,947
Speaker 2: two million dollars in prize money up for grabs. But

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Speaker 2: they still have two days of fleet racing before that.

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01:24:26,347 --> 01:24:29,587
Speaker 2: So New Zealand are the only team guaranteed in the

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Speaker 2: Grand Final. So how do they play it across fleet racing?

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Speaker 2: I just stay off to the side. I just stay

1744
01:24:34,467 --> 01:24:37,547
Speaker 2: out of trouble. But that is not the Black Foil's way.

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01:24:38,147 --> 01:24:40,907
Speaker 2: Peter Burling with us this out as well. So all

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01:24:40,987 --> 01:24:43,107
Speaker 2: of that to get through in the next a little while.

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01:24:43,187 --> 01:24:48,267
Speaker 2: Let's get into it. It's the time ticks towards nine

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01:24:48,347 --> 01:24:51,587
Speaker 2: past two. As we always do, we like to make

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01:24:51,627 --> 01:24:54,147
Speaker 2: sure that you're right up to date with things that

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01:24:54,387 --> 01:24:56,307
Speaker 2: might have escaped your attention. I mean, you can't keep

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Speaker 2: your eyes on everything. It's impossible, but Annie McDonald does

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01:25:00,227 --> 01:25:03,147
Speaker 2: and he produces. In case you missed it, Every Saturday

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01:25:03,227 --> 01:25:06,187
Speaker 2: and Sunday we start in the NRL. The West Tigers

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01:25:06,507 --> 01:25:10,947
Speaker 2: absolutely mauled at the hands of the Cronulla Sharks last night.

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01:25:12,307 --> 01:25:17,467
Speaker 7: Must consort community hearing up Ramian two on two radio

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01:25:17,507 --> 01:25:18,987
Speaker 7: for the light Radian scores.

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Speaker 22: That's a half century for Pranulla.

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01:25:22,187 --> 01:25:26,467
Speaker 2: He deserves that. Jesse Rabian the Sharks fifty eight the

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01:25:26,627 --> 01:25:30,747
Speaker 2: Tigers six. In the NRL last night to Wimbledon, Carlos

1760
01:25:30,787 --> 01:25:34,347
Speaker 2: al Karez is through to the men's singles final and

1761
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Speaker 2: on Higgles.

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Speaker 25: The dream of the title defense is still alive before

1763
01:25:42,027 --> 01:25:45,667
Speaker 25: on the Spanish flags flying on centre courts again.

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Speaker 2: And he will square off against none other than inevitably

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01:25:50,547 --> 01:26:00,187
Speaker 2: Novak Djokovic straight sets Jokovic. The man's on mission. Karas

1766
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Speaker 2: on Sunday is the deep and staying at wimbled and

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01:26:03,467 --> 01:26:05,827
Speaker 2: Lulu Sun. Maybe up. That doesn't just mentioned one key.

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01:26:05,867 --> 01:26:09,987
Speaker 2: We still mains. Aaron Routleff through to the women's doubles final.

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01:26:10,547 --> 01:26:16,467
Speaker 2: Yeah you're sapin champions last Sun the Stradian kee duo.

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Speaker 2: Let's stay up in the Northern Hemisphere. It was a

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Speaker 2: day for the sprinters on the latest stage of the

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01:26:22,267 --> 01:26:25,147
Speaker 2: Tour de France. Here goes this grind. Phillipson is there.

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Speaker 5: It's Phillipson and wa van Art's shoulders, his shoulder. Nikiasan

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01:26:29,147 --> 01:26:30,427
Speaker 5: is there, but it's going to be all the way

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Speaker 5: to the finish line this time. Yaspa Phillipson is flat out.

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01:26:33,867 --> 01:26:36,387
Speaker 5: Pascal Ackeman is looking to get on turns. It is

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Speaker 5: going to be yas Pah Phillipson. Two wins in this

1778
01:26:39,787 --> 01:26:40,627
Speaker 5: year Turner.

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Speaker 2: France and finally England cricket have seen goodbye to one

1780
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Speaker 2: of their all time greats. O that is a beauty,

1781
01:26:49,987 --> 01:26:51,547
Speaker 2: what an absolute beauty.

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Speaker 20: That is the best of Jimmy Anderson for number seven

1783
01:26:55,947 --> 01:26:56,707
Speaker 20: hundred and four.

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Speaker 27: If you want to know what makes Anderson great, just

1785
01:27:00,307 --> 01:27:03,387
Speaker 27: watch that delivery. A batter trying to turn it to

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01:27:03,547 --> 01:27:08,307
Speaker 27: leg has nicked. It always been touched by greatness.

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Speaker 1: Live from dyn Park on your home of sport, Weekend

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Speaker 1: Sport with Jason five and DJ Underhobes, New Zealand's most

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01:27:17,027 --> 01:27:19,067
Speaker 1: trusted home builder News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 2: It is eleven minutes past two on Weekend Sport. Ke

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Speaker 2: We tennis player Lulusun has taken us all on a

1792
01:27:27,827 --> 01:27:32,307
Speaker 2: magnificent ride at Wimbledon these last two weeks, reaching the quarterfinals.

1793
01:27:32,427 --> 01:27:33,147
Speaker 2: We're going to see an.

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01:27:33,067 --> 01:27:37,347
Speaker 28: Awful more of the New Zealander Lulu Sun to qualify

1795
01:27:37,427 --> 01:27:41,307
Speaker 28: that has lit up this tournament. She'll be around fifty

1796
01:27:41,387 --> 01:27:44,907
Speaker 28: in the world on Monday's rankings and we look forward

1797
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Speaker 28: to seeing as that at Wimbledon next year.

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Speaker 2: Lulusun joins us here on Weekend Sportloader. Congratulations on a

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Speaker 2: terrific fortnight that we all were totally enraptured with back

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Speaker 2: here in New Zealand. How do you yourself reflect on

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01:27:59,387 --> 01:28:00,307
Speaker 2: the last fortnight?

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01:28:00,467 --> 01:28:07,827
Speaker 16: In general terms, it's been a worldwide of emotions and experiences,

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01:28:07,947 --> 01:28:15,667
Speaker 16: new experiences and a lot of lessons learned, and I

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01:28:15,947 --> 01:28:20,587
Speaker 16: can only you know, thank everyone that helped me and

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01:28:20,787 --> 01:28:25,827
Speaker 16: supported me through all these weeks, and I'll just continue

1806
01:28:25,907 --> 01:28:31,347
Speaker 16: working and continue, you know, trying to level up for

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01:28:31,627 --> 01:28:32,707
Speaker 16: future future events.

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01:28:32,787 --> 01:28:35,427
Speaker 2: Yeah, to even get into the mind Draw, you had

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01:28:35,467 --> 01:28:37,467
Speaker 2: to play qualifying, didn't you. You had your three rounds

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Speaker 2: of qualifying to get into the mind Draw. Once you

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01:28:39,627 --> 01:28:43,787
Speaker 2: reached the mind draw, what were your goals your aspirations?

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Speaker 16: Well, coming from already playing passing qualifying in Australian Open,

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Speaker 16: I was hoping this time to pass the first round

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01:28:57,427 --> 01:29:00,307
Speaker 16: so it could be better, you know, one more step

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Speaker 16: than Australian Open. So yeah, I mean I didn't have

1816
01:29:05,507 --> 01:29:10,027
Speaker 16: a lot of expectations, but obviously, you know, you want

1817
01:29:10,067 --> 01:29:13,387
Speaker 16: to do well at the same time, so I was

1818
01:29:13,547 --> 01:29:17,627
Speaker 16: just taking it match by match, and after my first one,

1819
01:29:17,707 --> 01:29:19,787
Speaker 16: I was like, okay, let's go go work on the

1820
01:29:19,827 --> 01:29:22,307
Speaker 16: next one, and then the next one and then the

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01:29:22,387 --> 01:29:27,787
Speaker 16: next one. So it kind of spiraled and I'm just

1822
01:29:28,187 --> 01:29:31,187
Speaker 16: super happy I was able to experience all that against

1823
01:29:31,747 --> 01:29:32,987
Speaker 16: super players as well.

1824
01:29:33,467 --> 01:29:35,907
Speaker 2: How much confidence were you building during this time? How

1825
01:29:35,987 --> 01:29:38,747
Speaker 2: much how much more confident did you become with each

1826
01:29:38,867 --> 01:29:40,227
Speaker 2: match that you won?

1827
01:29:40,947 --> 01:29:44,827
Speaker 16: Definitely, I mean even with with any win you know,

1828
01:29:44,947 --> 01:29:48,347
Speaker 16: you get you build up your confidence and your sureeness

1829
01:29:48,427 --> 01:29:52,267
Speaker 16: in your game and what you're doing, and it also

1830
01:29:52,507 --> 01:29:56,787
Speaker 16: brings up momentum to you as well. So I think

1831
01:29:56,867 --> 01:29:59,667
Speaker 16: it definitely brought up each round.

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01:29:59,827 --> 01:30:05,507
Speaker 2: Yeah, across the tournament, Lulu, what do you think contributed

1833
01:30:05,547 --> 01:30:08,187
Speaker 2: most to your sixth What were you doing particularly well

1834
01:30:08,227 --> 01:30:10,827
Speaker 2: across all your matches at Wimbledon that got you all

1835
01:30:10,867 --> 01:30:12,267
Speaker 2: the way through to the quarterfinals.

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Speaker 16: I think having an aggressive grame was definitely helping. And

1837
01:30:17,947 --> 01:30:22,907
Speaker 16: obviously my servant forehand were you know, the the helpful

1838
01:30:24,187 --> 01:30:28,347
Speaker 16: strokes that I had in my game. So I mean

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01:30:28,427 --> 01:30:31,547
Speaker 16: on grass, obviously you have to be aggressive and come

1840
01:30:31,627 --> 01:30:36,267
Speaker 16: to net because it you know, when you're aggressive, you

1841
01:30:36,347 --> 01:30:38,787
Speaker 16: get advantages more on the net. To be able to

1842
01:30:38,867 --> 01:30:42,467
Speaker 16: come in more opportunities as well, and to be able

1843
01:30:42,547 --> 01:30:45,147
Speaker 16: to finish in the net also helps you because sometimes

1844
01:30:45,707 --> 01:30:47,827
Speaker 16: if you don't, then the rally might continue.

1845
01:30:47,947 --> 01:30:52,027
Speaker 2: So yeah, but that's not an adjustment for you, is it? Necessarily?

1846
01:30:52,387 --> 01:30:54,467
Speaker 2: From what I can see and have read and have seen,

1847
01:30:55,067 --> 01:30:57,227
Speaker 2: that's your game, isn't it? The aggressive game, the serve

1848
01:30:57,307 --> 01:31:00,147
Speaker 2: and volley coming to the net, And it clearly worked

1849
01:31:00,147 --> 01:31:03,667
Speaker 2: for you at Wimbledon. So this surface, and this tournament

1850
01:31:03,747 --> 01:31:05,827
Speaker 2: probably probably searched your game, does it.

1851
01:31:06,907 --> 01:31:10,107
Speaker 16: Yeah, it does, I've I've played it only a few

1852
01:31:10,187 --> 01:31:14,667
Speaker 16: times before, and so but I enjoy my time on

1853
01:31:14,827 --> 01:31:20,787
Speaker 16: grass always because it's a short, short season Montanna's unfortunately,

1854
01:31:22,627 --> 01:31:26,747
Speaker 16: But I enjoy each surface as well because you you

1855
01:31:26,867 --> 01:31:30,307
Speaker 16: have to adapt a little bit on each surface, a

1856
01:31:30,347 --> 01:31:32,787
Speaker 16: little bit of your game, a little bit of how

1857
01:31:32,867 --> 01:31:37,827
Speaker 16: you move as well. So it's it's this adaptability game always,

1858
01:31:38,467 --> 01:31:39,827
Speaker 16: and so I really enjoy that.

1859
01:31:40,867 --> 01:31:44,467
Speaker 2: Tell us about the experience of center court, playing on

1860
01:31:44,907 --> 01:31:47,547
Speaker 2: center court for the first time, and not only on

1861
01:31:47,667 --> 01:31:52,667
Speaker 2: center court, but against local darling Emma Radicanu, who obviously

1862
01:31:52,787 --> 01:31:55,627
Speaker 2: had a whole nation behind her, but not only playing

1863
01:31:55,667 --> 01:31:58,227
Speaker 2: it there against her, but winning that match.

1864
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Speaker 7: What was that like?

1865
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Speaker 16: I mean, first of all, I was just really stoked

1866
01:32:05,547 --> 01:32:08,867
Speaker 16: to play on center and to be able to play

1867
01:32:08,947 --> 01:32:13,147
Speaker 16: in such a big of a crowd was amazing. And

1868
01:32:13,307 --> 01:32:16,427
Speaker 16: to play a player like Emma, it was you know,

1869
01:32:16,987 --> 01:32:19,267
Speaker 16: even if I lost, I would I would take it

1870
01:32:19,347 --> 01:32:22,507
Speaker 16: all in and I would learn from it. So I

1871
01:32:22,707 --> 01:32:25,867
Speaker 16: just really came in to play each point at one

1872
01:32:25,947 --> 01:32:31,547
Speaker 16: hundred percent and until the very last and so I mean,

1873
01:32:31,627 --> 01:32:36,707
Speaker 16: it was insane but obviously with the roof closed, everything

1874
01:32:36,827 --> 01:32:40,787
Speaker 16: was echoing and it was hard to hear when people

1875
01:32:40,907 --> 01:32:45,347
Speaker 16: were aplauding. But I kind of knew that was going

1876
01:32:45,427 --> 01:32:49,427
Speaker 16: to happen beforehand, so I think it was okay.

1877
01:32:49,387 --> 01:32:52,227
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, more than okay. What a what an experience

1878
01:32:52,347 --> 01:32:55,107
Speaker 2: for you to de beat Emma Ratakana and get through

1879
01:32:55,147 --> 01:32:57,147
Speaker 2: in a lovely reception as well that you received from

1880
01:32:57,147 --> 01:32:59,467
Speaker 2: the crowd, even though they were obviously barracking for Emma,

1881
01:32:59,867 --> 01:33:01,107
Speaker 2: you know, for you to go back out there and

1882
01:33:01,147 --> 01:33:03,027
Speaker 2: get that lovely reception, I thought that was that was

1883
01:33:03,187 --> 01:33:06,667
Speaker 2: just awesome. So now, Lulu, you don't really a lot

1884
01:33:06,707 --> 01:33:10,787
Speaker 2: of time to relax because the Paris Olympics are fast approaching.

1885
01:33:11,027 --> 01:33:14,027
Speaker 2: You're going to play doubles there with Aaron Rautliffe. How

1886
01:33:14,107 --> 01:33:15,867
Speaker 2: much you're looking forward to that, to playing with the

1887
01:33:15,947 --> 01:33:18,587
Speaker 2: silver Fern, you know, at the Paris Olympics in the

1888
01:33:18,627 --> 01:33:19,427
Speaker 2: next couple of weeks.

1889
01:33:20,827 --> 01:33:24,067
Speaker 16: I'm so looking forward to it. I'm really excited to

1890
01:33:24,147 --> 01:33:27,787
Speaker 16: play doubles with Aaron, you know. I know she has

1891
01:33:27,827 --> 01:33:32,987
Speaker 16: a lot of experience, more experience than me obviously, so

1892
01:33:33,547 --> 01:33:36,827
Speaker 16: I'm going to take everything she says and I'm gonna

1893
01:33:37,107 --> 01:33:40,787
Speaker 16: try to prepare as best as I can before and

1894
01:33:42,027 --> 01:33:45,467
Speaker 16: just you know, give it all.

1895
01:33:45,827 --> 01:33:49,747
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, if it's anything like Wimbledon, you're going to

1896
01:33:49,787 --> 01:33:52,027
Speaker 2: take us on a heck of a ride. Lulu, congratulations

1897
01:33:52,067 --> 01:33:54,707
Speaker 2: on a wonderful couple of weeks. You had everybody back

1898
01:33:54,747 --> 01:33:57,587
Speaker 2: here as I'm sure you know, barracking for you and

1899
01:33:58,227 --> 01:34:00,267
Speaker 2: watching every match and just willing you on and to

1900
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Speaker 2: reach the quarterfinals. First key we to do it since

1901
01:34:02,347 --> 01:34:04,667
Speaker 2: Chris Lewis back in nineteen eighty three is I'm sure

1902
01:34:04,707 --> 01:34:08,587
Speaker 2: you know, was wonderful. Best for what is ahead, including

1903
01:34:08,627 --> 01:34:11,347
Speaker 2: the Paris Olympics. Will be watching with interest back here.

1904
01:34:11,427 --> 01:34:12,947
Speaker 2: Thanks so much for taking the time for a chat.

1905
01:34:13,027 --> 01:34:13,747
Speaker 2: Really appreciate it.

1906
01:34:14,547 --> 01:34:15,267
Speaker 16: Thank you so much.

1907
01:34:15,747 --> 01:34:17,987
Speaker 2: Thank you, LULUs on that good to get the chance

1908
01:34:18,027 --> 01:34:21,147
Speaker 2: to chat to our latest tennis star. She'll jump up

1909
01:34:21,147 --> 01:34:25,587
Speaker 2: into the fifties in the women's singles rankings when those

1910
01:34:26,147 --> 01:34:29,507
Speaker 2: rankings are re released after Wimbledon. But yeah, her next

1911
01:34:29,827 --> 01:34:32,627
Speaker 2: point of business is the Paris Olympics. Just on Aaron

1912
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Speaker 2: Routliffe into the final of the women's doubles now that

1913
01:34:36,107 --> 01:34:40,667
Speaker 2: is on Center Court tomorrow, so Saturday in the UK

1914
01:34:41,867 --> 01:34:46,027
Speaker 2: overnight tonight for us. But it's the third. It's the

1915
01:34:46,147 --> 01:34:50,467
Speaker 2: third match on center court. The women's singles is first

1916
01:34:50,947 --> 01:34:54,227
Speaker 2: and that starts at one am New Zealand time. That'll

1917
01:34:54,267 --> 01:34:58,027
Speaker 2: be followed by the men's doubles and then the women's doubles.

1918
01:34:58,067 --> 01:35:00,747
Speaker 2: So it could well be around depending on, of course,

1919
01:35:00,827 --> 01:35:03,347
Speaker 2: how those other games go. It could be around breakfast time,

1920
01:35:03,507 --> 01:35:08,187
Speaker 2: maybe slightly earlier than that that Aaron Routcliffe, Aaron Rautliffe,

1921
01:35:08,347 --> 01:35:13,747
Speaker 2: my apologies. Eron Ratliffe and her doubles partner Gabriella Dobrowski

1922
01:35:13,947 --> 01:35:18,507
Speaker 2: of Canada make it out onto center court to take

1923
01:35:18,587 --> 01:35:23,787
Speaker 2: on the opponents, who are Katarina sinea Kova from the

1924
01:35:23,787 --> 01:35:28,667
Speaker 2: Czech Republic and the American player Taylor Townsend. Now Eron

1925
01:35:28,747 --> 01:35:31,867
Speaker 2: Ratliff and her partner are the second seeds up against

1926
01:35:31,907 --> 01:35:36,387
Speaker 2: the fourth seeds, so the favoritism is in the Kiwi's court,

1927
01:35:36,787 --> 01:35:38,707
Speaker 2: if we can put it that way. So that'll be

1928
01:35:39,027 --> 01:35:42,387
Speaker 2: early hours of tomorrow morning, getting towards breakfast time tomorrow morning,

1929
01:35:42,667 --> 01:35:44,867
Speaker 2: as I say, depending on the length of the other

1930
01:35:44,907 --> 01:35:48,147
Speaker 2: two games, the women's singles final and the men's doubles

1931
01:35:48,387 --> 01:35:51,267
Speaker 2: final will be when Aaron Ratliffe makes it out. So yeah,

1932
01:35:51,307 --> 01:35:55,227
Speaker 2: we'll certainly keep a very close eye on how she goes.

1933
01:35:56,027 --> 01:35:58,547
Speaker 2: News talksb and Weekend Sport. We're coming to your live

1934
01:35:58,627 --> 01:36:01,467
Speaker 2: from eden Park. It's two twenty We're going to take

1935
01:36:01,467 --> 01:36:04,187
Speaker 2: a break. When we come back, it's to France and

1936
01:36:04,347 --> 01:36:08,387
Speaker 2: to Ben Hold, who has signed a professional football deal

1937
01:36:08,507 --> 01:36:12,147
Speaker 2: with Saint Ettien in the top flight of French football.

1938
01:36:12,587 --> 01:36:14,947
Speaker 2: What a season he had for Wellington Phoenix. What a

1939
01:36:15,067 --> 01:36:17,627
Speaker 2: move for this young man. How did it all play

1940
01:36:17,707 --> 01:36:21,067
Speaker 2: out and how does he reflect on his season with

1941
01:36:21,107 --> 01:36:23,907
Speaker 2: the Phoenix, his time at the Phoenix and what lies

1942
01:36:23,947 --> 01:36:26,947
Speaker 2: ahead for him. Ben Old is with us on Weekend

1943
01:36:26,947 --> 01:36:28,947
Speaker 2: Sport when we come back here on Newstalk Sedby.

1944
01:36:29,187 --> 01:36:32,507
Speaker 1: Live from dyn Park on your home of Sport Weekend

1945
01:36:32,627 --> 01:36:36,787
Speaker 1: Sport with Jason Pie and TJ gunder Hooves New Zealand's

1946
01:36:36,827 --> 01:36:39,227
Speaker 1: most trusted home builder, News Talks Edby.

1947
01:36:39,787 --> 01:36:43,227
Speaker 2: It is two twenty three at Newstalks edby. Another young

1948
01:36:43,347 --> 01:36:47,147
Speaker 2: Kiwi footballer has signed a deal with a top European club.

1949
01:36:47,267 --> 01:36:51,587
Speaker 2: Following Phoenix goalkeeper Alex Paulson's move to Premier League side

1950
01:36:51,667 --> 01:36:55,787
Speaker 2: Bournemouth last month, standout midfielder Ben Old has signed for

1951
01:36:55,867 --> 01:36:59,347
Speaker 2: top flight French club Saint ettienn on a five year

1952
01:36:59,427 --> 01:37:02,947
Speaker 2: deal old in the middle of crayer Foriemy Barbarus.

1953
01:37:03,027 --> 01:37:07,867
Speaker 3: This spodes ben old straits the point perfectly.

1954
01:37:08,347 --> 01:37:10,387
Speaker 2: Yeah, what a season he had which turned heads all

1955
01:37:10,467 --> 01:37:13,987
Speaker 2: over the place, including those at Saint Etienne. Obviously been

1956
01:37:14,067 --> 01:37:17,667
Speaker 2: older is with us out of France. Massive congratulations being

1957
01:37:17,747 --> 01:37:20,987
Speaker 2: on this significant move in your football career. Can you

1958
01:37:21,027 --> 01:37:23,787
Speaker 2: give us the background? How did this all come about?

1959
01:37:24,907 --> 01:37:28,387
Speaker 29: Yees? So happened quite quite a long time ago. Actually,

1960
01:37:28,547 --> 01:37:32,267
Speaker 29: it was just after we finished our semi final game,

1961
01:37:32,387 --> 01:37:35,187
Speaker 29: second semi final game which we got knocked out. My

1962
01:37:35,307 --> 01:37:38,267
Speaker 29: agent called me and to be honest, he was quite

1963
01:37:38,267 --> 01:37:42,027
Speaker 29: astonished it who messaged him like, We've had a bit

1964
01:37:42,067 --> 01:37:45,907
Speaker 29: of interest before that, and there wasn't really anything clicking

1965
01:37:46,027 --> 01:37:49,067
Speaker 29: for me at that time. I was thinking maybe it

1966
01:37:49,227 --> 01:37:52,587
Speaker 29: might be might be another season for me at the Phoenix.

1967
01:37:52,627 --> 01:37:54,587
Speaker 29: I was never in a rush to leave. And then

1968
01:37:55,187 --> 01:37:58,267
Speaker 29: when we got interest from them and I was able

1969
01:37:58,347 --> 01:37:59,907
Speaker 29: to speak to them for the first time, I was

1970
01:38:00,107 --> 01:38:04,107
Speaker 29: instantly hooks like their detail and the project that the

1971
01:38:04,467 --> 01:38:07,787
Speaker 29: leading through. Obviously at that time they hadn't even gotten

1972
01:38:07,827 --> 01:38:11,907
Speaker 29: to Liguan, But even at this time I would have

1973
01:38:11,947 --> 01:38:15,147
Speaker 29: still signed for them, even if they said in league too,

1974
01:38:15,187 --> 01:38:17,587
Speaker 29: because I know the project, I know the history and

1975
01:38:17,627 --> 01:38:20,387
Speaker 29: the fans and everything about this club I love, so

1976
01:38:21,187 --> 01:38:23,787
Speaker 29: I'm really happy to be a safetyty and play now.

1977
01:38:23,947 --> 01:38:26,307
Speaker 29: Wasn't the easiest thing to go through, but I'm so

1978
01:38:26,427 --> 01:38:27,947
Speaker 29: glad it's all being sorted out now.

1979
01:38:28,507 --> 01:38:31,427
Speaker 2: Has this happened a bit quicker than you thought it might?

1980
01:38:31,547 --> 01:38:32,267
Speaker 2: The move overseas?

1981
01:38:32,307 --> 01:38:34,947
Speaker 22: I mean, yeah, yeah, for sure.

1982
01:38:35,107 --> 01:38:38,027
Speaker 29: Like probably twelve months ago, I was coming off the

1983
01:38:38,067 --> 01:38:39,867
Speaker 29: back of my injury and just signed a three year

1984
01:38:39,907 --> 01:38:43,827
Speaker 29: deal with the Phoenix alongside Alex. So I think if I,

1985
01:38:44,987 --> 01:38:47,827
Speaker 29: if I had the confidence or like I knew that

1986
01:38:47,907 --> 01:38:50,227
Speaker 29: I was going to be able to leave that season,

1987
01:38:50,267 --> 01:38:52,147
Speaker 29: I would have just let my contract run down. But

1988
01:38:52,547 --> 01:38:54,947
Speaker 29: I was and no rush to league whatsoever, because I

1989
01:38:55,027 --> 01:38:56,747
Speaker 29: knew there was so much more I could develop at

1990
01:38:56,827 --> 01:38:59,907
Speaker 29: the Phoenix and I had to prove myself. But not

1991
01:39:00,067 --> 01:39:03,627
Speaker 29: only from myself personally, but from the team's perspective. We

1992
01:39:03,747 --> 01:39:06,747
Speaker 29: created history, So I think it was a great time,

1993
01:39:07,667 --> 01:39:09,267
Speaker 29: not only for me, but for a lot of the

1994
01:39:09,347 --> 01:39:12,507
Speaker 29: other players, because not only we all had such great seasons,

1995
01:39:12,507 --> 01:39:14,187
Speaker 29: but the team has such a great season, and that

1996
01:39:14,267 --> 01:39:16,947
Speaker 29: obviously got the attention of a lot of a lot

1997
01:39:16,987 --> 01:39:19,627
Speaker 29: of clubs, which hints is why there's so many teams

1998
01:39:19,707 --> 01:39:23,347
Speaker 29: coming for our players. So I definitely didn't expect it,

1999
01:39:23,387 --> 01:39:26,067
Speaker 29: to answer your question, but also I think it's a

2000
01:39:26,147 --> 01:39:28,107
Speaker 29: great time for me to move, and I think it

2001
01:39:28,147 --> 01:39:30,787
Speaker 29: is a good I've learned as much as I can

2002
01:39:31,707 --> 01:39:33,147
Speaker 29: in the A League and I think I'm ready for

2003
01:39:33,227 --> 01:39:34,187
Speaker 29: that next step.

2004
01:39:34,667 --> 01:39:37,827
Speaker 2: Tell us about the Saint Ittian Club, your dealings with

2005
01:39:37,987 --> 01:39:39,707
Speaker 2: them putting this deal together. What have they been like

2006
01:39:39,787 --> 01:39:40,107
Speaker 2: to deal with?

2007
01:39:41,107 --> 01:39:45,187
Speaker 29: Yeah, they've been amazing. I think the biggest worry that

2008
01:39:45,467 --> 01:39:46,867
Speaker 29: I had, which I think a lot of people is

2009
01:39:46,907 --> 01:39:50,507
Speaker 29: probably question you'll ask, it will be the language barrier.

2010
01:39:50,507 --> 01:39:52,867
Speaker 29: I always thought that that might be a problem, but

2011
01:39:53,467 --> 01:39:56,427
Speaker 29: coming here, they all speak very very good English, so

2012
01:39:57,427 --> 01:39:59,267
Speaker 29: they all seem to have learned it at school. So

2013
01:39:59,747 --> 01:40:02,147
Speaker 29: they've all been so welcoming and even though they might

2014
01:40:02,227 --> 01:40:04,507
Speaker 29: struggle at times, are so open and wanting to learn

2015
01:40:05,467 --> 01:40:07,467
Speaker 29: to speak English with me. And they've just been so

2016
01:40:07,627 --> 01:40:09,867
Speaker 29: easy through this whole process. Like I said, it's not

2017
01:40:09,947 --> 01:40:13,547
Speaker 29: been the easiest in terms of getting all the stuff

2018
01:40:13,627 --> 01:40:16,747
Speaker 29: done with the medical because there's so much stuff to

2019
01:40:16,827 --> 01:40:19,907
Speaker 29: get done, especially over here, but They've been amazing. They

2020
01:40:20,107 --> 01:40:23,627
Speaker 29: put me up in hotels and been perfect for me,

2021
01:40:23,747 --> 01:40:27,067
Speaker 29: and now that it's all been sorted, it's been amazing,

2022
01:40:27,467 --> 01:40:30,707
Speaker 29: definitely making it an easy and much easier process for me.

2023
01:40:31,147 --> 01:40:33,307
Speaker 2: And you were welcome to the club through their social

2024
01:40:33,387 --> 01:40:36,747
Speaker 2: media team with this amazing welcome video which featured an

2025
01:40:36,867 --> 01:40:39,627
Speaker 2: artist painting a picture of Yahko.

2026
01:40:39,867 --> 01:40:44,067
Speaker 29: Was that, Yeah, I know, it's very cool, Like obviously

2027
01:40:44,147 --> 01:40:45,827
Speaker 29: we see it a lot with a lot of signings

2028
01:40:45,867 --> 01:40:49,387
Speaker 29: over in Europe, but you never really expect it to

2029
01:40:49,507 --> 01:40:52,027
Speaker 29: be done for yourself. And they briefly mentioned it to

2030
01:40:52,147 --> 01:40:55,547
Speaker 29: me before going over that they wanted to do something special,

2031
01:40:55,667 --> 01:40:57,867
Speaker 29: but I had no idea what it was going to be.

2032
01:40:58,507 --> 01:41:00,267
Speaker 29: And I just turned up because I said, oh, we're

2033
01:41:00,267 --> 01:41:01,947
Speaker 29: going to do some media stuff. And I turned up

2034
01:41:01,987 --> 01:41:03,947
Speaker 29: and walked around the corner and I saw the paintings.

2035
01:41:04,027 --> 01:41:06,107
Speaker 29: So it was just as much of a surprise for

2036
01:41:06,187 --> 01:41:08,347
Speaker 29: me as it was for you guys when it got released,

2037
01:41:08,387 --> 01:41:10,827
Speaker 29: And it was such an amazing experience for me, and

2038
01:41:10,907 --> 01:41:13,307
Speaker 29: I think it just adds on top of how great

2039
01:41:13,347 --> 01:41:15,747
Speaker 29: the experience has been for me since coming here.

2040
01:41:15,907 --> 01:41:19,267
Speaker 2: Yeah, so cool. So have you started training with the

2041
01:41:19,347 --> 01:41:20,987
Speaker 2: club yet, have you met your teammates.

2042
01:41:22,347 --> 01:41:25,067
Speaker 29: Unfortunately not. I've I've just finished, like I said, all

2043
01:41:25,107 --> 01:41:27,467
Speaker 29: the medical work and I had my first official day here.

2044
01:41:27,627 --> 01:41:30,627
Speaker 29: But I picked up a bit of an ankle problem

2045
01:41:31,267 --> 01:41:35,427
Speaker 29: at the Nation's Cup. Nothing serious at all, but they

2046
01:41:35,507 --> 01:41:37,747
Speaker 29: picked it up during the medical work, and they really

2047
01:41:37,827 --> 01:41:39,947
Speaker 29: want me to be able to go to the Olympics,

2048
01:41:39,987 --> 01:41:42,547
Speaker 29: so they're not wanting me to risk anything. And I

2049
01:41:43,227 --> 01:41:46,627
Speaker 29: think that's another testament to them, is that they could

2050
01:41:46,667 --> 01:41:49,627
Speaker 29: quite easily be like, oh, we prefer you're not to

2051
01:41:49,747 --> 01:41:52,587
Speaker 29: go go to the Olympics, or just want me to

2052
01:41:52,667 --> 01:41:54,507
Speaker 29: train and just be like suck it up. By the

2053
01:41:54,707 --> 01:41:59,387
Speaker 29: they're doing exactly what is best for me, and even

2054
01:41:59,427 --> 01:42:01,507
Speaker 29: though it might be not be the best for them,

2055
01:42:01,787 --> 01:42:03,467
Speaker 29: they know this is such an important thing for me

2056
01:42:03,587 --> 01:42:05,467
Speaker 29: to go to the Olympics, and this on my side

2057
01:42:05,547 --> 01:42:08,747
Speaker 29: completely with that. So they've been amazing and hopefully I'll

2058
01:42:08,747 --> 01:42:11,347
Speaker 29: be able to train with them within the next couple

2059
01:42:11,467 --> 01:42:11,907
Speaker 29: days or so.

2060
01:42:12,147 --> 01:42:15,187
Speaker 2: Good stuff. So what your gut feel been on game

2061
01:42:15,267 --> 01:42:17,027
Speaker 2: time for the first team. I mean, you're not going

2062
01:42:17,067 --> 01:42:18,827
Speaker 2: to go out on loan or anything. You're you're going

2063
01:42:18,867 --> 01:42:21,147
Speaker 2: to be training with the first team squad, pushing for

2064
01:42:21,347 --> 01:42:24,267
Speaker 2: minutes what's your gut feel on how quickly you'll be

2065
01:42:24,307 --> 01:42:26,267
Speaker 2: able to stake your claim for some minutes.

2066
01:42:27,067 --> 01:42:29,707
Speaker 29: Yes, it's a hard, hard question to answer because I

2067
01:42:29,707 --> 01:42:31,867
Speaker 29: would never want to say I'm going to be playing

2068
01:42:31,987 --> 01:42:34,107
Speaker 29: or not playing. But I think one of the biggest

2069
01:42:34,267 --> 01:42:36,587
Speaker 29: things for me was when picking a club was that

2070
01:42:36,947 --> 01:42:38,627
Speaker 29: it was going to be a place where I could develop,

2071
01:42:38,707 --> 01:42:42,107
Speaker 29: but most importantly be playing, because I've missed a lot

2072
01:42:42,147 --> 01:42:45,707
Speaker 29: of game time over the last year and a half

2073
01:42:45,827 --> 01:42:47,627
Speaker 29: because of my injury, and I don't want to go

2074
01:42:47,747 --> 01:42:50,427
Speaker 29: back into that side coin I think for my develop

2075
01:42:50,907 --> 01:42:52,627
Speaker 29: development right now, I need to be able to play.

2076
01:42:52,747 --> 01:42:55,427
Speaker 29: So even though I can't guarantee anything and I wouldn't

2077
01:42:55,467 --> 01:42:59,667
Speaker 29: expect to, especially starting in a league league on side,

2078
01:43:00,867 --> 01:43:02,387
Speaker 29: i think from the talks that I've had with them,

2079
01:43:02,387 --> 01:43:05,227
Speaker 29: I've got that opportunity to be able to start for them,

2080
01:43:05,267 --> 01:43:07,387
Speaker 29: and I think if I prove myself, which I think

2081
01:43:07,427 --> 01:43:09,707
Speaker 29: I can, I've got a great chance to be able

2082
01:43:09,747 --> 01:43:12,547
Speaker 29: to be playing a lot and league on But again,

2083
01:43:12,787 --> 01:43:16,547
Speaker 29: there's a lot of games in these seasons and including

2084
01:43:16,587 --> 01:43:18,267
Speaker 29: the Cup, so I'm not expecting to just go out

2085
01:43:18,347 --> 01:43:20,947
Speaker 29: and play every single minute. But I think there's definitely

2086
01:43:20,987 --> 01:43:22,907
Speaker 29: a lot of opportunity to get a lot of game

2087
01:43:22,987 --> 01:43:23,947
Speaker 29: time in this first season.

2088
01:43:24,427 --> 01:43:26,587
Speaker 2: You talked about about your time at the Phoenix before that,

2089
01:43:26,707 --> 01:43:28,467
Speaker 2: the latter part of it, but you were there for

2090
01:43:28,547 --> 01:43:31,187
Speaker 2: a long time, being, you know, from your academy days,

2091
01:43:31,227 --> 01:43:33,867
Speaker 2: playing out at Freight To Park for the reserve team,

2092
01:43:33,987 --> 01:43:37,107
Speaker 2: and then an a league debut during the COVID period

2093
01:43:37,187 --> 01:43:40,107
Speaker 2: and then obviously an integral part of the side in

2094
01:43:40,187 --> 01:43:42,547
Speaker 2: the season that's just finished. How do you reflect on

2095
01:43:42,667 --> 01:43:45,307
Speaker 2: your time with Wellington Phoenix the whole time there.

2096
01:43:46,707 --> 01:43:49,827
Speaker 29: Yeah, as a whole, it's been amazing. I think I

2097
01:43:49,987 --> 01:43:53,067
Speaker 29: mentioned it and my release that there's been ups and downs,

2098
01:43:53,107 --> 01:43:55,387
Speaker 29: which has been like that for any plan. I think

2099
01:43:56,267 --> 01:43:57,947
Speaker 29: without those downs, I don't think I would have been

2100
01:43:58,147 --> 01:44:01,067
Speaker 29: been the player that I have been. But since going

2101
01:44:01,107 --> 01:44:04,587
Speaker 29: through the academy and through my three years as a professional,

2102
01:44:04,587 --> 01:44:07,707
Speaker 29: it's all been so amazing. I've learned so much from

2103
01:44:07,787 --> 01:44:11,507
Speaker 29: everyone that's coming gone, so I've got nothing to complain

2104
01:44:11,547 --> 01:44:13,787
Speaker 29: about it at all. Like I said, I had the

2105
01:44:13,867 --> 01:44:15,587
Speaker 29: injury which put me out for a long time, but

2106
01:44:15,667 --> 01:44:19,187
Speaker 29: I learned so much during that and I would easily

2107
01:44:19,267 --> 01:44:20,587
Speaker 29: say that I don't think i'd be where I am

2108
01:44:20,667 --> 01:44:23,467
Speaker 29: today without the injury, because I think I've learned so

2109
01:44:23,547 --> 01:44:26,587
Speaker 29: much and developed as a player from that. So there's

2110
01:44:26,587 --> 01:44:28,267
Speaker 29: been a lot of ups and downs, but I don't

2111
01:44:28,267 --> 01:44:31,307
Speaker 29: think i'd change anything and those six years so I've

2112
01:44:31,467 --> 01:44:33,947
Speaker 29: really enjoyed my time with the academy and the first

2113
01:44:34,027 --> 01:44:35,667
Speaker 29: team and definitely going to miss it.

2114
01:44:36,587 --> 01:44:38,707
Speaker 2: You mentioned the Olympics there, You're off to the Olympics shortly,

2115
01:44:38,747 --> 01:44:41,627
Speaker 2: don't have to go very far. They're in Paris. Of

2116
01:44:41,667 --> 01:44:44,667
Speaker 2: course you're already in France. But how exciting a prospect

2117
01:44:45,347 --> 01:44:48,187
Speaker 2: is wearing that silver fern at an Olympic Games for

2118
01:44:48,267 --> 01:44:48,747
Speaker 2: New Zealand.

2119
01:44:49,467 --> 01:44:53,787
Speaker 29: Yeah, it's funny because we're contemplating whether I even train

2120
01:44:53,907 --> 01:44:57,467
Speaker 29: down there, it's that close. But no, it's such an

2121
01:44:57,507 --> 01:45:00,547
Speaker 29: amazing opportunity for myself and a lot of players, Like

2122
01:45:00,987 --> 01:45:03,867
Speaker 29: there's so many Phoenix players involved in this Olympic side,

2123
01:45:03,907 --> 01:45:07,147
Speaker 29: which is amazing. But I was obviously involved with the

2124
01:45:07,667 --> 01:45:10,907
Speaker 29: previous Olympics in Tokyo, but I wasn't able to play.

2125
01:45:11,867 --> 01:45:14,307
Speaker 29: So I can't wait to get into this group and

2126
01:45:14,347 --> 01:45:16,467
Speaker 29: hopefully be able to get a good amount of game time.

2127
01:45:16,547 --> 01:45:19,227
Speaker 29: And we created the history last Olympics, and I think

2128
01:45:19,267 --> 01:45:21,707
Speaker 29: we can do even better this time. I know we've

2129
01:45:21,707 --> 01:45:25,187
Speaker 29: got a very difficult pool, but I think with the

2130
01:45:25,267 --> 01:45:27,387
Speaker 29: team that we've got and the chemistry we have, we

2131
01:45:27,427 --> 01:45:30,107
Speaker 29: could do do very well. So I can't wait to

2132
01:45:30,147 --> 01:45:32,987
Speaker 29: be able to represent the Fern again and be able

2133
01:45:32,987 --> 01:45:34,787
Speaker 29: to play against some of the best players in the world.

2134
01:45:34,947 --> 01:45:36,827
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't wait. And just to finish, you mentioned

2135
01:45:36,827 --> 01:45:39,627
Speaker 2: it slightly before and that you can communicate in English

2136
01:45:39,707 --> 01:45:41,867
Speaker 2: with most of your teammates and the others there, but

2137
01:45:42,467 --> 01:45:44,747
Speaker 2: you are living in France, so get the feeling you'll

2138
01:45:44,747 --> 01:45:47,107
Speaker 2: be speaking some French ship. Did you take it at school?

2139
01:45:47,187 --> 01:45:49,627
Speaker 2: Have you got any any kind of rudimentary, you know,

2140
01:45:49,907 --> 01:45:52,507
Speaker 2: background in the French language to fall back on.

2141
01:45:53,627 --> 01:45:57,267
Speaker 29: No, I'm literally from square one. So everyone's wanting to

2142
01:45:57,307 --> 01:45:59,107
Speaker 29: make bets with me about how long it's going to

2143
01:45:59,147 --> 01:46:02,027
Speaker 29: take for me to become fluent. I made it a

2144
01:46:02,547 --> 01:46:05,347
Speaker 29: little side that with the one of the owners actually

2145
01:46:05,427 --> 01:46:08,067
Speaker 29: here because he's learning it as well. So I've said

2146
01:46:08,107 --> 01:46:12,587
Speaker 29: within six months that I'll be hopefully fluent, so that

2147
01:46:13,107 --> 01:46:15,267
Speaker 29: I've put it out there now, so hopefully I'll be

2148
01:46:15,347 --> 01:46:18,587
Speaker 29: able to be fluent pretty quickly. I think being immersed

2149
01:46:18,667 --> 01:46:20,987
Speaker 29: with it all is going to help me. But it's

2150
01:46:21,027 --> 01:46:23,667
Speaker 29: definitely something that's tough and it's hard to talk to

2151
01:46:24,067 --> 01:46:25,627
Speaker 29: a lot of people, but like I said, they're very

2152
01:46:25,667 --> 01:46:28,387
Speaker 29: open to speaking English, and I think it'll be quite

2153
01:46:28,427 --> 01:46:30,227
Speaker 29: rewarding what I learned French to be able to talk

2154
01:46:30,267 --> 01:46:31,627
Speaker 29: to them them all properly.

2155
01:46:31,947 --> 01:46:36,067
Speaker 2: Absolutely, well, it's terrific news for you, Ben Well earned

2156
01:46:36,707 --> 01:46:38,947
Speaker 2: an amazing A League season you had, and Eve earned

2157
01:46:38,987 --> 01:46:41,067
Speaker 2: this move and yeah, we just can't wait to see

2158
01:46:41,107 --> 01:46:43,107
Speaker 2: how you go. It's itty in and of course at

2159
01:46:43,147 --> 01:46:45,867
Speaker 2: the Olympics, which are rushing up pretty fast. Really you

2160
01:46:45,947 --> 01:46:47,547
Speaker 2: take I appreciate you taking the time.

2161
01:46:47,427 --> 01:46:47,827
Speaker 5: For a chat.

2162
01:46:48,147 --> 01:46:51,347
Speaker 2: Thanks and all the very best mate, Thank you very much.

2163
01:46:51,867 --> 01:46:55,267
Speaker 2: It's been Old, former Phoenix player now a Saint itty

2164
01:46:55,427 --> 01:46:58,067
Speaker 2: En player. I just can't wait to see how he goes.

2165
01:46:58,147 --> 01:47:00,667
Speaker 2: I've got the chance to watch Ben Old for pretty

2166
01:47:00,707 --> 01:47:04,107
Speaker 2: much his entire Phoenix career through the academy and then

2167
01:47:04,147 --> 01:47:05,867
Speaker 2: into the first team, and he always just seemed like

2168
01:47:05,947 --> 01:47:08,507
Speaker 2: he had some special about him. This isn't a surprise,

2169
01:47:08,627 --> 01:47:11,587
Speaker 2: I'm sure to anybody who has watched Ben Old play

2170
01:47:11,987 --> 01:47:14,507
Speaker 2: text for what an impressive young guy. He is very

2171
01:47:14,547 --> 01:47:16,907
Speaker 2: impressive off the field as well. You can hear him

2172
01:47:17,067 --> 01:47:18,667
Speaker 2: chat there is only what twenty one. I think he

2173
01:47:18,787 --> 01:47:21,987
Speaker 2: is so like it. You know, he speaks, you know,

2174
01:47:22,107 --> 01:47:25,427
Speaker 2: with such maturity and just the way he plays. If

2175
01:47:25,707 --> 01:47:28,827
Speaker 2: he's a name to look out for, ben old Alan says, piney,

2176
01:47:28,867 --> 01:47:31,107
Speaker 2: can you help me? Is bojed ark Krajev still a

2177
01:47:31,147 --> 01:47:34,427
Speaker 2: Phoenix player or has he moved Allan? They haven't quite

2178
01:47:35,187 --> 01:47:38,027
Speaker 2: come to a conclusion on that one yet. Bojered Arkrayev

2179
01:47:38,107 --> 01:47:40,987
Speaker 2: is the only player actually who is not from last

2180
01:47:41,027 --> 01:47:44,587
Speaker 2: season squad either confirmed as staying or going. I think

2181
01:47:44,627 --> 01:47:46,907
Speaker 2: they really want him to stay. They're very, very keen

2182
01:47:46,947 --> 01:47:50,507
Speaker 2: on getting bojed Ar Krajev to extend his contract. It's

2183
01:47:50,547 --> 01:47:52,627
Speaker 2: just whether they can afford it or not. So yeah,

2184
01:47:52,667 --> 01:47:55,387
Speaker 2: watch this space is all I can tell you on that.

2185
01:47:56,347 --> 01:47:59,467
Speaker 2: What are we in terms of time? Twenty five to three?

2186
01:47:59,667 --> 01:48:01,667
Speaker 2: We'll take another break and then we'll go to We'll

2187
01:48:01,707 --> 01:48:03,747
Speaker 2: arrive over the place, aren't We've been to Wimbledon to France.

2188
01:48:03,827 --> 01:48:06,747
Speaker 2: Next we'll get to San Francisco where this week it

2189
01:48:06,867 --> 01:48:10,627
Speaker 2: is the sale GP Grand Final. The Black Foils are

2190
01:48:10,627 --> 01:48:13,387
Speaker 2: there and they are the only team guaranteed a spot

2191
01:48:14,027 --> 01:48:18,387
Speaker 2: in the two million dollar Grand Final showdown. What's this

2192
01:48:18,467 --> 01:48:20,147
Speaker 2: all about how does it all play out over the

2193
01:48:20,227 --> 01:48:23,067
Speaker 2: fleet racing ahead of the big Grand Final and how

2194
01:48:23,147 --> 01:48:25,347
Speaker 2: confident are New Zealand that they can for the first

2195
01:48:25,427 --> 01:48:30,587
Speaker 2: time win sale GP Black foils co CEO and driver

2196
01:48:30,747 --> 01:48:32,507
Speaker 2: Peter Birling on the show right after.

2197
01:48:32,387 --> 01:48:36,147
Speaker 1: This, cutting down to All Blacks v. England on your

2198
01:48:36,267 --> 01:48:40,307
Speaker 1: home of Sport Weekend Sport Live from Eden Park with

2199
01:48:40,587 --> 01:48:44,507
Speaker 1: Jason five and GJ. Gardner Holmes, New Zealand's most trusted

2200
01:48:44,547 --> 01:48:46,427
Speaker 1: home builder, us Talks EDB.

2201
01:48:46,947 --> 01:48:50,387
Speaker 2: Twenty two away from three Yes, Eden Park is our

2202
01:48:50,507 --> 01:48:53,827
Speaker 2: broadcast location this afternoon as we built towards a five

2203
01:48:53,947 --> 01:48:57,747
Speaker 2: past seven kickoff. Tonight. Built up on ZEDB starts at

2204
01:48:57,787 --> 01:49:01,027
Speaker 2: six o'clock as we look forward to the second test

2205
01:49:01,067 --> 01:49:03,507
Speaker 2: between the All Blacks and England tonight here at eden Park.

2206
01:49:03,547 --> 01:49:08,227
Speaker 2: Full live commentary on News Talks EDB. GP's season Grand

2207
01:49:08,307 --> 01:49:12,187
Speaker 2: Final is this weekend on San Francisco Bay. The full

2208
01:49:12,627 --> 01:49:16,667
Speaker 2: f fifty fleet will race five fleet races. After that

2209
01:49:17,187 --> 01:49:20,907
Speaker 2: the points are recalculated and the top three will go

2210
01:49:20,987 --> 01:49:25,427
Speaker 2: into the winner takes all two million dollar Grand Final showdown.

2211
01:49:25,707 --> 01:49:28,827
Speaker 2: Now with five event wins already this season, New Zealand's

2212
01:49:28,867 --> 01:49:33,347
Speaker 2: the only team already qualified for the three boat shootout.

2213
01:49:33,747 --> 01:49:37,147
Speaker 2: Black Foyle's co CEO and driver Peter Berling is with

2214
01:49:37,307 --> 01:49:39,547
Speaker 2: us out of San Francisco. Pettic, Can I just clarify

2215
01:49:40,067 --> 01:49:42,827
Speaker 2: that I've got that exactly right. You're confirmed in the final.

2216
01:49:43,187 --> 01:49:46,547
Speaker 2: It's a one off, winner takes all race late on

2217
01:49:46,787 --> 01:49:47,907
Speaker 2: Sunday local time.

2218
01:49:49,067 --> 01:49:52,347
Speaker 25: Yeah, So the first five races are what steemed the

2219
01:49:52,867 --> 01:49:57,107
Speaker 25: San Francisco GP, So there's actually a winner half of

2220
01:49:57,147 --> 01:49:59,787
Speaker 25: those first five races for the San Francisco event, and

2221
01:49:59,827 --> 01:50:03,547
Speaker 25: then that gets added onto your season total four and

2222
01:50:03,627 --> 01:50:05,627
Speaker 25: then the top three from the season going to the final.

2223
01:50:05,907 --> 01:50:07,827
Speaker 22: So it's one way shootout.

2224
01:50:08,027 --> 01:50:10,707
Speaker 2: So how will you approach things? Is there any temptation

2225
01:50:10,947 --> 01:50:14,107
Speaker 2: just to take it easy, stay out of trouble and

2226
01:50:14,307 --> 01:50:16,307
Speaker 2: just you know, find out who you're facing in that

2227
01:50:16,507 --> 01:50:18,107
Speaker 2: in that three boat final.

2228
01:50:19,627 --> 01:50:23,827
Speaker 22: I mean there's always temptation, but yeah, what's how this

2229
01:50:23,947 --> 01:50:24,387
Speaker 22: league works.

2230
01:50:24,427 --> 01:50:26,787
Speaker 25: You've got to won that last race to so when

2231
01:50:26,827 --> 01:50:29,347
Speaker 25: the when the league, So you've got to actually put

2232
01:50:29,387 --> 01:50:32,067
Speaker 25: your best forward and trying to make sure you're the form.

2233
01:50:31,907 --> 01:50:32,587
Speaker 22: Boat going into that.

2234
01:50:32,747 --> 01:50:36,267
Speaker 25: So we'll be pushing, pushing as hard as ever these

2235
01:50:36,347 --> 01:50:39,347
Speaker 25: first five races to try and make sure to try

2236
01:50:39,387 --> 01:50:42,267
Speaker 25: and get a win firstly, but also trying.

2237
01:50:42,067 --> 01:50:43,747
Speaker 22: To make sure we're ready to go for that that

2238
01:50:43,907 --> 01:50:44,387
Speaker 22: last race.

2239
01:50:44,907 --> 01:50:48,987
Speaker 2: Australia and Spain sit second and third currently, Do they

2240
01:50:49,067 --> 01:50:52,067
Speaker 2: feel like the two most likely to be in the

2241
01:50:52,147 --> 01:50:52,827
Speaker 2: final with you?

2242
01:50:54,467 --> 01:50:56,427
Speaker 25: Yeah, well both of them have got a pretty comfortable

2243
01:50:56,507 --> 01:51:00,907
Speaker 25: get back to France and fourth. Yeah, if you're betting men,

2244
01:51:00,947 --> 01:51:04,067
Speaker 25: I think it's it's pretty likely to be that way around.

2245
01:51:04,107 --> 01:51:06,827
Speaker 25: But you know, you've seen plenty of thrones things happened

2246
01:51:06,867 --> 01:51:10,387
Speaker 25: in the sports, so yeah, I think we won't take

2247
01:51:10,427 --> 01:51:13,027
Speaker 25: anything for granted and just be ready for who we've

2248
01:51:13,147 --> 01:51:15,187
Speaker 25: got a face on it come Sunday.

2249
01:51:15,707 --> 01:51:18,067
Speaker 2: In many ways, will it be quite fun watching the

2250
01:51:18,147 --> 01:51:20,387
Speaker 2: others battle it out for the right to join you

2251
01:51:20,467 --> 01:51:20,907
Speaker 2: in the final?

2252
01:51:20,947 --> 01:51:21,067
Speaker 16: Law?

2253
01:51:21,107 --> 01:51:23,467
Speaker 2: Will you be two too busy concentrating on what you're

2254
01:51:23,467 --> 01:51:23,987
Speaker 2: doing yourself?

2255
01:51:25,107 --> 01:51:27,147
Speaker 25: Oh, we're trying to take the one ourselves. But yeah,

2256
01:51:27,147 --> 01:51:30,187
Speaker 25: it'll be interesting to see if there's any any games

2257
01:51:30,187 --> 01:51:34,747
Speaker 25: to get played. Obviously, last year when we came in

2258
01:51:34,827 --> 01:51:37,947
Speaker 25: a second, third and fourth were virtually equal, so it

2259
01:51:37,987 --> 01:51:41,547
Speaker 25: was kind of we want to take all between them. Yeah,

2260
01:51:41,587 --> 01:51:44,987
Speaker 25: there's plenty plenty of action going on between between what

2261
01:51:45,307 --> 01:51:50,347
Speaker 25: was France and GB that time round, so yeah, it'll

2262
01:51:50,347 --> 01:51:52,107
Speaker 25: be interesting to see if there's anything like that this stuff.

2263
01:51:52,227 --> 01:51:55,507
Speaker 2: All right, tell us about conditions. What are you expecting?

2264
01:51:55,907 --> 01:51:57,267
Speaker 2: What can we expect to see?

2265
01:51:58,947 --> 01:52:01,667
Speaker 22: Yeah, conditions wise, it's looking h else would be windy.

2266
01:52:03,027 --> 01:52:07,827
Speaker 25: Yeah, we're actually for Friday, we're going on the high

2267
01:52:07,867 --> 01:52:12,107
Speaker 25: speed configuration, so small wing and high speed foils, so

2268
01:52:12,147 --> 01:52:14,827
Speaker 25: that'll be really interesting. It's been over years since we've

2269
01:52:14,867 --> 01:52:18,307
Speaker 25: sailed on that configuration, so it'd be really cool. And

2270
01:52:18,427 --> 01:52:20,907
Speaker 25: then yes, Saturday sound they look pretty similar to that,

2271
01:52:21,067 --> 01:52:22,947
Speaker 25: so I'm pretty sure they'll they'll.

2272
01:52:22,787 --> 01:52:24,907
Speaker 22: Have a look see how things have gone tomorrow and

2273
01:52:25,787 --> 01:52:27,427
Speaker 22: be into it, be into it for the weekend.

2274
01:52:27,747 --> 01:52:30,027
Speaker 2: Did you say it's been a year since you sailed

2275
01:52:30,027 --> 01:52:32,907
Speaker 2: on the high speed configuration now.

2276
01:52:33,267 --> 01:52:37,227
Speaker 25: Just the full entirety of the high speed configuration, Yeah,

2277
01:52:37,267 --> 01:52:39,907
Speaker 25: with the with the small wing. Yeah, the last time

2278
01:52:39,947 --> 01:52:42,347
Speaker 25: we sailed with it was actually back in Sydney last season,

2279
01:52:42,467 --> 01:52:46,467
Speaker 25: so yeah, we haven't sailed this configuration yet this season,

2280
01:52:46,547 --> 01:52:48,307
Speaker 25: so it's definitely going to be exciting to get out

2281
01:52:48,307 --> 01:52:48,867
Speaker 25: on it for sure.

2282
01:52:49,387 --> 01:52:52,467
Speaker 2: In broad terms, PET across a range of conditions in

2283
01:52:52,627 --> 01:52:56,027
Speaker 2: all of these locations across season four, what has got

2284
01:52:56,107 --> 01:52:58,427
Speaker 2: you into this position at the top of the leaderboard.

2285
01:53:00,027 --> 01:53:02,147
Speaker 25: I think just being consistent, you know, selling the boat

2286
01:53:02,227 --> 01:53:06,067
Speaker 25: really well and just doing everything to a reasonably high level.

2287
01:53:06,947 --> 01:53:09,787
Speaker 25: You know, across the season, we've got reasonably good starts

2288
01:53:09,827 --> 01:53:12,307
Speaker 25: who've always been one of the fastest boats out there,

2289
01:53:12,347 --> 01:53:15,467
Speaker 25: and just tried to really minimize the mistakes. And you

2290
01:53:15,587 --> 01:53:19,027
Speaker 25: obviously had our big wobble early on in the season

2291
01:53:19,187 --> 01:53:23,467
Speaker 25: with a big structural failure which was pretty unlucky and

2292
01:53:23,627 --> 01:53:26,827
Speaker 25: nothing to no fold of the teams, but you know,

2293
01:53:26,867 --> 01:53:30,307
Speaker 25: it took us right to the back of the centerpe

2294
01:53:30,427 --> 01:53:33,067
Speaker 25: event and then we missed even after that, so that

2295
01:53:33,187 --> 01:53:35,187
Speaker 25: was something that was really hard to bounce back from.

2296
01:53:35,267 --> 01:53:37,707
Speaker 25: But seeing the resilience of the group to bounce back

2297
01:53:37,747 --> 01:53:41,667
Speaker 25: from there when when three events on the trial and

2298
01:53:42,027 --> 01:53:43,987
Speaker 25: we'll get our season title up to five, something that

2299
01:53:44,187 --> 01:53:45,027
Speaker 25: we're all pretty proud of.

2300
01:53:45,467 --> 01:53:48,347
Speaker 2: You're so close. Now, have you let yourself think about

2301
01:53:48,707 --> 01:53:51,947
Speaker 2: about crossing the line first, you know in the Grand Final?

2302
01:53:53,907 --> 01:53:55,467
Speaker 25: I mean you can always think about it, but you've

2303
01:53:56,427 --> 01:53:59,747
Speaker 25: it's more around planning as to how you're actually gonna

2304
01:53:59,947 --> 01:54:02,547
Speaker 25: go out and put your best forward and make sure

2305
01:54:02,587 --> 01:54:05,427
Speaker 25: you give it your best shot, and you know, something

2306
01:54:05,507 --> 01:54:09,307
Speaker 25: that obviously is a bit of an element of luck

2307
01:54:09,347 --> 01:54:11,507
Speaker 25: in there in the fifteen minute shoot out in the

2308
01:54:11,547 --> 01:54:13,747
Speaker 25: yacht race. But you know, I'm saying that you make

2309
01:54:13,787 --> 01:54:16,387
Speaker 25: your own luck and you've got to really really planned

2310
01:54:16,627 --> 01:54:18,267
Speaker 25: to the instagree of trying to make sure you give

2311
01:54:18,267 --> 01:54:19,587
Speaker 25: yourself every shot of winning it.

2312
01:54:19,987 --> 01:54:23,187
Speaker 2: And just finally, obviously the season five calendars out a

2313
01:54:23,267 --> 01:54:26,507
Speaker 2: New Zealand League in Auckland confirmed how important is it

2314
01:54:26,587 --> 01:54:28,387
Speaker 2: to you in the Black Foils organization to be able

2315
01:54:28,387 --> 01:54:31,067
Speaker 2: to race an event and sell GP on home waters.

2316
01:54:32,507 --> 01:54:34,587
Speaker 25: Oh, I mean, it's incredibly important to us to have

2317
01:54:34,667 --> 01:54:38,627
Speaker 25: a home event, you know, for all our fans, everyone

2318
01:54:38,667 --> 01:54:41,947
Speaker 25: that chair us on around the world. We're obviously having

2319
01:54:42,027 --> 01:54:43,987
Speaker 25: to travel around to be farthered to do that anywhere

2320
01:54:44,107 --> 01:54:47,027
Speaker 25: but home, so you know, it means a lot to

2321
01:54:47,107 --> 01:54:50,667
Speaker 25: have our fans there, you know. And christ Its last

2322
01:54:50,707 --> 01:54:53,427
Speaker 25: season we got over twenty thousand people through the event

2323
01:54:53,547 --> 01:54:55,107
Speaker 25: village and you know, I'm sure we'll be out of

2324
01:54:55,147 --> 01:55:01,467
Speaker 25: top that this season in Auckland, So going to be incredible, Yeah,

2325
01:55:01,547 --> 01:55:03,827
Speaker 25: something that we're actually stoked to have that on the

2326
01:55:03,907 --> 01:55:05,667
Speaker 25: calendar and this first release.

2327
01:55:05,547 --> 01:55:07,507
Speaker 2: Yep, we're looking forward to it as well. Looking forward

2328
01:55:07,507 --> 01:55:09,467
Speaker 2: to San Francisco this weekend. We'll all be watching and

2329
01:55:09,547 --> 01:55:11,147
Speaker 2: cheering you on from back here. Petter, all the best

2330
01:55:11,147 --> 01:55:12,067
Speaker 2: to you in the Black Foils.

2331
01:55:12,387 --> 01:55:14,027
Speaker 22: Awesome. Hey, thanks mate, it's awesome.

2332
01:55:14,067 --> 01:55:17,427
Speaker 2: No, thank you, pet It's Peter Burling of course, joining

2333
01:55:17,507 --> 01:55:20,987
Speaker 2: us out of the Black Foils camp. And I'm actually

2334
01:55:21,027 --> 01:55:25,867
Speaker 2: now on the ground. I as that interview was taking place,

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01:55:25,907 --> 01:55:28,107
Speaker 2: sort of made my way down onto the grass here

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Speaker 2: at Eden Park, which is where I'm now broadcasting from.

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01:55:32,187 --> 01:55:37,067
Speaker 2: I'm standing about a meter from the touchline on the

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01:55:37,147 --> 01:55:39,507
Speaker 2: broadcast side of Eden Park. So if you've watched a

2339
01:55:39,547 --> 01:55:42,707
Speaker 2: game of rugby from Eden Park where the cameras are,

2340
01:55:42,867 --> 01:55:44,787
Speaker 2: I'm down on that side. I can see the player

2341
01:55:44,867 --> 01:55:46,867
Speaker 2: benches here, you might be able to hear in the

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01:55:46,947 --> 01:55:50,667
Speaker 2: background they're just doing their anthem tests at the moment.

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01:55:50,707 --> 01:55:53,547
Speaker 2: At the moment that was God Defend New Zealand, just

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01:55:53,587 --> 01:55:56,027
Speaker 2: coming through the speakers here at Eden Park. They've done

2345
01:55:56,307 --> 01:55:59,547
Speaker 2: God Save the King. So getting everything ready, let me

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01:55:59,587 --> 01:56:01,667
Speaker 2: painting the picture for you down here pitch side. The

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01:56:03,147 --> 01:56:09,107
Speaker 2: grass itself, the playing surface is just immaculate. Although actually

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01:56:09,187 --> 01:56:10,547
Speaker 2: having said that, this is ill said. If I can

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01:56:10,587 --> 01:56:13,627
Speaker 2: get a little bit closer without security taking me out

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01:56:13,667 --> 01:56:17,747
Speaker 2: and a crash tackle. There are the odd little there's

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01:56:18,027 --> 01:56:21,507
Speaker 2: the very very tiny little divots I think mainly from

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01:56:21,587 --> 01:56:24,627
Speaker 2: the captain's run yesterday when the two teams had the

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01:56:24,707 --> 01:56:26,587
Speaker 2: chance to run out here on Eden Park, as is

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01:56:26,587 --> 01:56:28,987
Speaker 2: always the case before a Test match, so you can

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01:56:29,027 --> 01:56:32,227
Speaker 2: see some little divots that have been taken out by bootmarks,

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01:56:32,267 --> 01:56:35,027
Speaker 2: and both of the teams had goal kicking practice and

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01:56:35,027 --> 01:56:37,307
Speaker 2: all that sort of thing. But that does not take

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01:56:37,347 --> 01:56:40,227
Speaker 2: away from the fact that this is a terrific playing surface.

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01:56:40,387 --> 01:56:43,587
Speaker 2: It is as we you know, as we know and

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01:56:43,747 --> 01:56:45,947
Speaker 2: often say, it's one of the great rugby grounds in

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01:56:45,987 --> 01:56:48,307
Speaker 2: New Zealand, probably one of the great rugby grounds in

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01:56:48,347 --> 01:56:50,827
Speaker 2: the world. Now, looking across to the other side of

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01:56:51,427 --> 01:56:54,467
Speaker 2: Eden Park, what stands out from other times I've been

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01:56:54,547 --> 01:56:58,387
Speaker 2: here are the temporary seats. They weren't here for the

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01:56:58,467 --> 01:57:01,187
Speaker 2: All Blacks tests last year. I don't think there weren't

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01:57:01,187 --> 01:57:03,027
Speaker 2: any last year, were they because of the Women's World Cup?

2367
01:57:03,267 --> 01:57:05,547
Speaker 2: But certainly the year before in the Test against Irelands,

2368
01:57:06,067 --> 01:57:09,107
Speaker 2: the the temporary seats weren't there. They are there tonight

2369
01:57:09,747 --> 01:57:11,987
Speaker 2: to get a few one hundred or maybe a couple

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01:57:12,067 --> 01:57:15,387
Speaker 2: more thousand, and I think capacity to night's forty seven thousand.

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01:57:16,307 --> 01:57:19,467
Speaker 2: Every seat has been sold, not a ticket to be had,

2372
01:57:19,987 --> 01:57:22,467
Speaker 2: so you can see the temporary seats on the other

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01:57:22,547 --> 01:57:26,547
Speaker 2: side looking upwards. Now it is an absolutely cracking day

2374
01:57:26,587 --> 01:57:29,547
Speaker 2: in Auckland. You could not order a better day for

2375
01:57:29,667 --> 01:57:32,427
Speaker 2: a game of rugby than that which has been produced

2376
01:57:32,587 --> 01:57:38,107
Speaker 2: here in Auckland today, clear blue skies, sunshine. Really. I mean,

2377
01:57:38,147 --> 01:57:40,227
Speaker 2: I'm from Wellington, so I'm used to a bit of wind,

2378
01:57:40,267 --> 01:57:43,267
Speaker 2: but not a breath of wind. And the only people

2379
01:57:43,387 --> 01:57:47,867
Speaker 2: here really are the caterers, the sky crew, including world

2380
01:57:47,947 --> 01:57:51,627
Speaker 2: class stage manager or ground manager or floor manager. Richard

2381
01:57:51,667 --> 01:57:54,147
Speaker 2: Hodges has just walked past me and punched me in

2382
01:57:54,227 --> 01:57:58,267
Speaker 2: the side, so thanks Hodgy. I enjoyed that. And also

2383
01:57:58,427 --> 01:58:01,347
Speaker 2: those who are working on the anthems and the pre

2384
01:58:01,467 --> 01:58:04,347
Speaker 2: match entertainment and all that sort of thing. So those

2385
01:58:04,387 --> 01:58:06,707
Speaker 2: are the people who are here at the moment. It's

2386
01:58:06,747 --> 01:58:10,267
Speaker 2: always really interesting to be around a rugby ground as

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01:58:10,307 --> 01:58:12,787
Speaker 2: it's getting prepared for a big match like this. We've

2388
01:58:12,827 --> 01:58:16,067
Speaker 2: all been to big games where you know, the crowds

2389
01:58:16,107 --> 01:58:19,307
Speaker 2: are just packed in, but all the preparation that goes

2390
01:58:19,387 --> 01:58:22,027
Speaker 2: into getting the ground ready to dressing it, I guess

2391
01:58:22,067 --> 01:58:26,147
Speaker 2: you'd say, getting all the advertising signage and the speakers

2392
01:58:26,307 --> 01:58:30,947
Speaker 2: for the ground announcers to use, and every little detail

2393
01:58:31,027 --> 01:58:34,507
Speaker 2: that goes into producing a Test match like tonight. There

2394
01:58:34,547 --> 01:58:37,387
Speaker 2: are just one thousand and one different things that need

2395
01:58:37,467 --> 01:58:40,307
Speaker 2: to be done before that whistle blows tonight and the

2396
01:58:40,387 --> 01:58:43,427
Speaker 2: two teams run out. But I can report as I say,

2397
01:58:43,907 --> 01:58:47,267
Speaker 2: conditions will absolutely not be a problem tonight. It is

2398
01:58:47,587 --> 01:58:49,987
Speaker 2: one out of the box in Auckland. The gates will

2399
01:58:49,987 --> 01:58:53,587
Speaker 2: open presumably about ninety minutes before kickoff and then just

2400
01:58:53,707 --> 01:58:56,747
Speaker 2: after seven it'll be the All Blacks up against England.

2401
01:58:56,947 --> 01:59:00,547
Speaker 2: They'll go at one another with great vigor and enthusiasm

2402
01:59:00,587 --> 01:59:03,707
Speaker 2: I would imagine, and well, may the best team win.

2403
01:59:04,307 --> 01:59:06,347
Speaker 2: May the best team win. It's just on coming up

2404
01:59:06,427 --> 01:59:08,467
Speaker 2: eleven away from three on News Talks at B We'll

2405
01:59:08,467 --> 01:59:10,627
Speaker 2: take one final break, come back and wrap the show

2406
01:59:10,667 --> 01:59:12,507
Speaker 2: from on the grass here at Eden Park and find

2407
01:59:12,507 --> 01:59:15,427
Speaker 2: out what andyes exit song is for today back in

2408
01:59:15,507 --> 01:59:17,387
Speaker 2: a moment on Weekend Sport.

2409
01:59:19,427 --> 01:59:23,547
Speaker 1: Lay from the Fortress, Eden Park. It's Weekend Sport with

2410
01:59:23,907 --> 01:59:27,707
Speaker 1: Jason Vine and GJ Gun the Homes, New Zealand's most

2411
01:59:27,787 --> 01:59:28,707
Speaker 1: trusted home builder.

2412
01:59:28,867 --> 01:59:31,787
Speaker 2: News Talks at B Yes Coming here from the Fortress,

2413
01:59:31,867 --> 01:59:34,707
Speaker 2: coming here from the grass at Eden Park. As we

2414
01:59:34,827 --> 01:59:36,867
Speaker 2: closed the show today, I always, as I said at

2415
01:59:36,867 --> 01:59:39,347
Speaker 2: the top of the show, look out at arenas like

2416
01:59:39,467 --> 01:59:42,267
Speaker 2: this one and this one probably more than any other,

2417
01:59:42,507 --> 01:59:47,187
Speaker 2: and just envisage all of the amazing sporting moments that

2418
01:59:47,267 --> 01:59:50,107
Speaker 2: have happened on this very patch of grass. And we

2419
01:59:50,187 --> 01:59:53,267
Speaker 2: talked about the Springbok test of nineteen eighty one earlier

2420
01:59:53,347 --> 01:59:56,387
Speaker 2: in the show and the flower bombs that flew well

2421
01:59:56,467 --> 01:59:59,267
Speaker 2: came out of the sky and Gary Knight got hit

2422
01:59:59,347 --> 02:00:02,907
Speaker 2: by a flower bomb. I'm standing not far from where

2423
02:00:03,147 --> 02:00:07,227
Speaker 2: the Try from the End of the Earth had its genesis,

2424
02:00:07,627 --> 02:00:11,747
Speaker 2: its origins back in nineteen ninety four, thirty years and

2425
02:00:11,947 --> 02:00:14,027
Speaker 2: ten days ago. And one of my favorite parts of

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02:00:14,187 --> 02:00:17,347
Speaker 2: Eden Park to visit is the seat that has been

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02:00:17,427 --> 02:00:21,867
Speaker 2: painted green. We Grant Elliot hit that mighty six against

2428
02:00:21,867 --> 02:00:24,987
Speaker 2: South Africa off Dalstane in the twenty fifteen Cricket World

2429
02:00:24,987 --> 02:00:28,307
Speaker 2: Cup semi final. It's where the ball landed, or that's

2430
02:00:28,347 --> 02:00:32,347
Speaker 2: what they're estimating anyway, and it is forever more easy

2431
02:00:32,427 --> 02:00:35,507
Speaker 2: to find because they've painted that seat green. Everything else

2432
02:00:35,547 --> 02:00:38,147
Speaker 2: here is gray, but there is the green seat that

2433
02:00:38,707 --> 02:00:41,627
Speaker 2: was the final resting place of Grant Elliot six in

2434
02:00:41,747 --> 02:00:44,867
Speaker 2: that Cricket World Cup semi final back in twenty fifteen.

2435
02:00:44,907 --> 02:00:46,947
Speaker 2: All Right, Any McDonald, thanks for producing the show.

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02:00:46,987 --> 02:00:50,187
Speaker 26: Your prediction for tonight, yes, well, Piney, I was pretty

2437
02:00:50,187 --> 02:00:53,307
Speaker 26: confident last week. I believe I predicted a thirty five

2438
02:00:53,347 --> 02:00:56,067
Speaker 26: point win, so on it. I'm going even more confident

2439
02:00:56,147 --> 02:00:59,307
Speaker 26: this week. Fifty three points to three. The All Backs

2440
02:00:59,347 --> 02:01:03,267
Speaker 26: win by exactly fifty, that would.

2441
02:01:03,107 --> 02:01:06,347
Speaker 2: Be quite the occasion. It sounds like the Crinulla Sharks

2442
02:01:06,427 --> 02:01:09,587
Speaker 2: West Tiger's NRL match from last night. I'm not going

2443
02:01:09,667 --> 02:01:11,507
Speaker 2: to be quite as confident. I think the All Blacks

2444
02:01:11,547 --> 02:01:13,747
Speaker 2: will win, not quite as bullish as you. I'll go

2445
02:01:13,827 --> 02:01:16,787
Speaker 2: a ten point one. Whatever happens, it will be an occasion.

2446
02:01:16,827 --> 02:01:18,427
Speaker 2: We'll bring it to your live here on News Talk,

2447
02:01:18,467 --> 02:01:20,347
Speaker 2: said B. And don't forget to join us tomorrow on

2448
02:01:20,427 --> 02:01:22,947
Speaker 2: Weekend Sport just after midday when we break it all

2449
02:01:22,987 --> 02:01:25,467
Speaker 2: down and we need your help with that. So make

2450
02:01:25,547 --> 02:01:28,627
Speaker 2: a couple of notes mental or actual physical notes as

2451
02:01:28,667 --> 02:01:31,267
Speaker 2: you're enjoying the game tonight, and let's have a chat

2452
02:01:31,267 --> 02:01:33,427
Speaker 2: about it on Weekend Sport tomorrow from midday.

2453
02:01:33,827 --> 02:01:36,027
Speaker 26: What have we got in terms of a song to

2454
02:01:36,147 --> 02:01:38,347
Speaker 26: take us out today and pining. I've got so many

2455
02:01:38,427 --> 02:01:40,347
Speaker 26: options I could choose from. I could choose from the

2456
02:01:40,427 --> 02:01:42,787
Speaker 26: last time England beat the All Blacks on New Zealand

2457
02:01:42,827 --> 02:01:44,987
Speaker 26: soil two thousand and three June fifteen. Number one then

2458
02:01:45,067 --> 02:01:47,827
Speaker 26: was twenty one questions fifty cent featuring Nate Dog.

2459
02:01:47,947 --> 02:01:49,747
Speaker 2: Do you know that song? I don't know that song.

2460
02:01:49,827 --> 02:01:52,147
Speaker 26: I haven't gone for that, don't worry ninety four third

2461
02:01:52,187 --> 02:01:56,387
Speaker 26: of July. Last time we lost on Eden Park's halloed turf,

2462
02:01:57,107 --> 02:01:59,227
Speaker 26: that was I swear by all for one.

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02:01:59,627 --> 02:02:00,227
Speaker 2: I know that song.

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02:02:00,347 --> 02:02:03,267
Speaker 26: Yes, I'm not choosing that one either, And nineteen seventy

2465
02:02:03,387 --> 02:02:06,827
Speaker 26: three September fifteen, which was the last time England beats

2466
02:02:06,907 --> 02:02:10,387
Speaker 26: the All Blacks at eden Park, which was a Delta

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02:02:10,507 --> 02:02:11,987
Speaker 26: Dawn by Helen Reddy.

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02:02:12,147 --> 02:02:13,027
Speaker 2: Do you know that I know that song?

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02:02:13,107 --> 02:02:14,667
Speaker 26: I know that's so I haven't chosen that one either.

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02:02:14,867 --> 02:02:18,987
Speaker 26: I've chosen a song entitled nineteen seventy three. It's by

2471
02:02:19,147 --> 02:02:22,227
Speaker 26: James Blunt. A fun fact, James Blunt was actually born

2472
02:02:22,267 --> 02:02:25,427
Speaker 26: in nineteen seventy four, so he hasn't been alive for

2473
02:02:25,507 --> 02:02:27,787
Speaker 26: an All Blacks loss to England at eden Park.

2474
02:02:27,947 --> 02:02:31,827
Speaker 2: So what a fact there I absolutely love the rationale.

2475
02:02:32,507 --> 02:02:35,827
Speaker 2: Thanks for listening, folks. Commentary tonight from seven after a

2476
02:02:35,867 --> 02:02:38,427
Speaker 2: build up, starts at six. Weekendsport back tomorrow for midday.

2477
02:02:38,747 --> 02:02:39,987
Speaker 2: We will talk to you then.

2478
02:02:54,947 --> 02:03:00,707
Speaker 8: I'll call you ever Saturday, Henry and wouldn't both stay out.

2479
02:03:00,787 --> 02:03:03,787
Speaker 15: Till the morning light and we're saying.

2480
02:03:05,187 --> 02:03:07,667
Speaker 2: Here we go, oh again.

2481
02:03:10,547 --> 02:03:12,187
Speaker 27: And the time goes by?

2482
02:03:12,547 --> 02:03:13,787
Speaker 29: How long wais?

2483
02:03:13,907 --> 02:03:21,027
Speaker 2: Beat and cub with you and nineteen seventy three singing.

2484
02:03:20,787 --> 02:03:22,987
Speaker 19: Here we Go again?

2485
02:03:26,147 --> 02:03:31,267
Speaker 18: I would call you them sad best by both stay

2486
02:03:31,547 --> 02:03:34,987
Speaker 18: up till the morning light the sid.

2487
02:03:36,347 --> 02:03:38,867
Speaker 2: Here we go gap.

2488
02:03:41,747 --> 02:03:43,347
Speaker 17: And the time goes by?

2489
02:03:43,747 --> 02:03:48,787
Speaker 27: Our long wastbat and Sime with you when it's nineteen

2490
02:03:49,067 --> 02:03:52,227
Speaker 27: seventy three singing.

2491
02:03:52,067 --> 02:03:54,547
Speaker 18: Here go again.

2492
02:03:57,347 --> 02:03:58,947
Speaker 11: And the time goes by?

2493
02:03:59,307 --> 02:04:02,747
Speaker 29: I was long waist beat in a Fly with you

2494
02:04:03,147 --> 02:04:06,147
Speaker 29: and ninety Scene seven.

2495
02:04:14,747 --> 02:04:17,907
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2496
02:04:18,027 --> 02:04:21,307
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2497
02:04:21,387 --> 02:04:22,947
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