1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Elliott Smith's sports talk hosters with us he Elliott Afternoon Hit. 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: It has Justin Marshall got a point. 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 2: Well, I think let's have a listen first and foremost, 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 2: and then we can decide as to where the Justin's 5 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 2: got a point. 6 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 3: You know, at the end of the day, there's forty 7 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 3: nine percent of the players have got no caps at all, 8 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 3: so it's a development team with a few senior players involved. 9 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 3: It's honestly, in my mind it's complete bs. You know, 10 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 3: the way that they're treating this tour. 11 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: And there's been a bit of frustration hither around the 12 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 2: fact that the French have sent out very much a 13 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 2: B team. Now the French rug be is pretty much 14 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 2: controlled by the top fourteen. All those clubs owned by powerful, 15 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 2: rich owners dictate whether these players can be released or 16 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: in theory they have to be because it's a global window. 17 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 2: But we know that theory doesn't really necessarily needsitary doesn't 18 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:47,919 Speaker 2: necessarily translate to the rugby field, and they've left all 19 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: these players at home. I think he does have a point, 20 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 2: and the All Blacks are now in sort of a 21 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 2: no win position. You know, the French have sent over 22 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 2: a very much a B team. So the All Blacks 23 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 2: are expected to win, and win well if they do, 24 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: will everyone expect them to do so? If they don't, 25 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: then you know they've been troubled by a French B 26 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: team and all sorts of questions yet asked. So I 27 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 2: don't think it's good for Test rugby. I don't think 28 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: it's a very good precedent for Test rugby to be 29 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 2: set that. Basically, the French have thumb their nose to 30 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: coming down to New Zealand and setting their own rules, 31 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 2: and now the All Blacks basically have to cop it. 32 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 2: New Zealand Rugby has to try and sell tickets for 33 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 2: this series. You know, probably would have been a bit 34 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 2: better if they didn't give them twelve months notice that 35 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:25,839 Speaker 2: they weren't going to send their top players as well, 36 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 2: because we've known for a long time that this is 37 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 2: going to happen, and now it's on a doorstep. We 38 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 2: know that this All Black side is going to face 39 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 2: basically a team of no names come this weekend. 40 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 1: Elliott is should we I mean tell me that I'm 41 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: jumping getting way too excited here, But is it possible 42 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,839 Speaker 1: that rugby's headed in the same direction as cricket where 43 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: actually the competitions are far more important now than the 44 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: national game. 45 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: Quite possibly, especially so in France, because they've still got 46 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: the money that dictates things. We've seen in England, you know, 47 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 2: clubs have fallen over in the last few years through 48 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: the financial difficulties. Super rugby has had very much the same. 49 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 2: So in this part of the world, and i'd say 50 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: in England as well, and the United Kingdom, international remains king. 51 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: But in France they've got such a strong domestic competition. 52 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 2: And it's not forget that that they've got a very 53 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 2: very strong domestic competition, probably the best in the world, 54 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: the top fourteen, that they can dictate things. They're owned 55 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 2: by millionaires, if not billionaires, a lot of these teams, 56 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 2: and they can thumbd they nose it the rest of 57 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 2: the international game because their domestic game is so strong. 58 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: I don't see that spreading across the rest of the 59 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: world as yet, but it is something that rugby needs 60 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 2: to be on guard for because cricket, basically international cricket 61 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 2: is by and large being destroyed over the last five 62 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 2: to ten years. 63 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: Very interesting, Hey, so what's going on with Wimbledon? Is 64 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: it the heat taking out the big guns? 65 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: Well it might be. We talked a bit about that 66 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,959 Speaker 2: heat policy yesterday. A shocking day or shocking couple of 67 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: days for the top seeds. Eight top ten players across 68 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 2: the men's and women's draws are gone. That's in the 69 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 2: first round. That's the most in the Open era thirteen 70 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: and the men's ten in the women's have gone. Alexander 71 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: vere have gone. In the men's Coca gone, and the 72 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 2: women's Jessica. But the third seed gone and the women's 73 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 2: as well. It's almost like not having a seed next 74 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 2: to your name has been quite good. So that's good 75 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 2: news for Cameron Nora of course x Q we now 76 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 2: representing Great Britain. He's through to the second round. A 77 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 2: k Djokovitch looked like he might be folding a little 78 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 2: bit this morning after losing the third city. He managed 79 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: to get through in four. So as long as you're 80 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 2: doing to have that little number next to your name here, 81 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: that you're probably doing all right at Wimbledon. But having 82 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,119 Speaker 2: said that, the mean's top one two seeds are both 83 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: through to the second round and probably on a collision 84 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 2: course for the title in a couple of weeks. 85 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: Store are you you? I haven't seen you all week. 86 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 2: And you know city, Yeah, yeah, racking up. It's a 87 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 2: bit chilly down here, looking forward to the test match? 88 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: Yeah is it. 89 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: Have you remember how last time we sent you out 90 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: of Auckland you had to go buy a jacket because 91 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: you hadn't packed properly. Have you had to do that 92 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: this time? 93 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: No? I packed properly this time. Here two degrees this morning. 94 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: And yes you said, well, that's not a company credit card, 95 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 2: it's not spread that. But it has been chilly, and 96 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: you know, I'm a South Island of them. I'm tough 97 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 2: at heart, and I've just got used to these conditions again. Yeah. 98 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: Good, Okay, we won't tell anybody that you bought that 99 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: jacket on the company credit card. 100 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 2: I appreciate helping this discretion. 101 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what the word is. Thank you, Elliot, look 102 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: after yourself. To talk to you tomorrow, Elliot Smith, sports 103 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: talk host. 104 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 2: For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 105 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,799 Speaker 2: News Talks a B from four pm weekdays, or follow 106 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio