1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,387 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:13,547 Speaker 1: from Newstalks EDB bry Well. 3 00:00:13,667 --> 00:00:17,787 Speaker 2: After the hooter to stun the Chiefs twenty nineteen and 4 00:00:17,867 --> 00:00:21,347 Speaker 2: they must win Super Rugby playoff match in Hamilton last night. 5 00:00:21,667 --> 00:00:25,307 Speaker 3: The Blues porn's advantage against the Chiefs, killing the pill. 6 00:00:25,867 --> 00:00:27,867 Speaker 2: They have another go, they get closes, will. 7 00:00:27,747 --> 00:00:32,347 Speaker 3: A try, Bear's gonna try, just beerscort it. The big 8 00:00:32,467 --> 00:00:36,707 Speaker 3: Luck reaches out and dumps it down. It's nineteen eighteen 9 00:00:37,067 --> 00:00:41,827 Speaker 3: with the kick to come all the victory and it's 10 00:00:41,867 --> 00:00:42,507 Speaker 3: all over. 11 00:00:42,507 --> 00:00:45,867 Speaker 2: And the Blues of one. They have one indeed minte. 12 00:00:45,907 --> 00:00:48,107 Speaker 2: The Chiefs lead for much of the game. They were 13 00:00:48,147 --> 00:00:51,227 Speaker 2: ahead by thirteen at the hour mark before the Blues 14 00:00:51,267 --> 00:00:54,627 Speaker 2: stormed back with two converted tries. The winner, as you 15 00:00:54,707 --> 00:00:58,067 Speaker 2: heard there coming three minutes after the final hooter, courtesy 16 00:00:58,347 --> 00:01:03,027 Speaker 2: of reserve locke Josh Berry. The Blues so now though, 17 00:01:03,027 --> 00:01:05,587 Speaker 2: we'll head to christ Yitch. They'll face the Crusaders on 18 00:01:05,667 --> 00:01:08,907 Speaker 2: Friday night. The Chiefs stay alive. They'll host the Brumbies 19 00:01:08,947 --> 00:01:12,587 Speaker 2: and Hamilton on Saturday night in the second semi final. 20 00:01:13,107 --> 00:01:16,267 Speaker 2: Blues assistant coach Greg Feek is with us on weekend Sport. 21 00:01:16,307 --> 00:01:18,547 Speaker 2: Thanks for your time, Greg. How was the drive back 22 00:01:18,627 --> 00:01:20,227 Speaker 2: up the motorway to Auckland last night? 23 00:01:20,907 --> 00:01:21,627 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it. 24 00:01:21,707 --> 00:01:26,227 Speaker 5: Was a lot of smiles and excitement about the week. 25 00:01:27,067 --> 00:01:28,747 Speaker 4: The boys are pretty chilled at the back by the 26 00:01:28,827 --> 00:01:31,267 Speaker 4: end of it and just couldn't wait to get into 27 00:01:31,267 --> 00:01:32,347 Speaker 4: their recovery and prep. 28 00:01:32,667 --> 00:01:36,267 Speaker 5: So yeah, it's funny how things work out, and we 29 00:01:36,347 --> 00:01:38,747 Speaker 5: knew we just needed to get into these finals and. 30 00:01:40,427 --> 00:01:41,467 Speaker 4: We were starting to build. 31 00:01:41,787 --> 00:01:44,027 Speaker 5: It was the start of the season was an ideal, 32 00:01:44,067 --> 00:01:47,507 Speaker 5: but that's all in the past now, so we're excited. 33 00:01:47,907 --> 00:01:51,307 Speaker 2: Talk us through the final few minutes. From your view, 34 00:01:51,347 --> 00:01:54,587 Speaker 2: you're nineteen thirteen down attacking their line, the hood goes, 35 00:01:54,627 --> 00:01:55,827 Speaker 2: can you pick it up from there? 36 00:01:58,107 --> 00:02:02,707 Speaker 5: Yeah, we looked we looked patient with a conference, we 37 00:02:02,787 --> 00:02:07,667 Speaker 5: looked physicol so we had the makings of of snatching that, 38 00:02:07,747 --> 00:02:10,227 Speaker 5: you know, and and we've lost a few games this 39 00:02:10,347 --> 00:02:13,707 Speaker 5: year around it, you know, like the same way, so 40 00:02:14,307 --> 00:02:15,787 Speaker 5: it was great to be able to get that back. 41 00:02:15,867 --> 00:02:17,787 Speaker 5: But you know, we just felt that, we felt the vibe, 42 00:02:17,787 --> 00:02:19,947 Speaker 5: could see it, and we were just wait until the 43 00:02:19,987 --> 00:02:22,387 Speaker 5: unfold and then there was penalty advantages going on, so 44 00:02:23,107 --> 00:02:25,907 Speaker 5: we had free we had free free cracks of the 45 00:02:25,907 --> 00:02:29,587 Speaker 5: line when that happens too. So I've talked about it 46 00:02:29,627 --> 00:02:31,347 Speaker 5: all year, but when we've got there, we don't need 47 00:02:31,387 --> 00:02:31,747 Speaker 5: to panic. 48 00:02:31,907 --> 00:02:32,107 Speaker 4: You know. 49 00:02:32,227 --> 00:02:35,027 Speaker 5: It's about being physical, but being controlled. So it was 50 00:02:35,067 --> 00:02:38,347 Speaker 5: great to see that come through and get us to win. 51 00:02:38,547 --> 00:02:41,667 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was so obvious from watching how how much 52 00:02:41,867 --> 00:02:45,147 Speaker 2: composure there was out there, how calm, you know, everybody 53 00:02:45,227 --> 00:02:48,747 Speaker 2: seemed to be in a pretty chaotic part of the game. 54 00:02:49,347 --> 00:02:52,427 Speaker 2: How crucial are the voices of your on field leaders 55 00:02:52,747 --> 00:02:53,867 Speaker 2: in moments like that. 56 00:02:55,107 --> 00:02:56,827 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the voices are crucial, but I think 57 00:02:56,867 --> 00:02:59,907 Speaker 5: it's backing ourselves, and earlier in there we're guilty of 58 00:03:00,027 --> 00:03:03,387 Speaker 5: probably a bit toy frantic and thrown passes that weren't needed. 59 00:03:03,427 --> 00:03:05,987 Speaker 4: But when we when were like that, we've got a 60 00:03:06,067 --> 00:03:07,027 Speaker 4: game now to play it. 61 00:03:07,067 --> 00:03:10,227 Speaker 5: We've been we've done this before, and it just seemed 62 00:03:10,267 --> 00:03:13,147 Speaker 5: to at that point everything to slow them. We're in 63 00:03:13,147 --> 00:03:16,067 Speaker 5: a we're in a real flow state, you know, and 64 00:03:16,107 --> 00:03:18,907 Speaker 5: in finals, that's what you need. You need to take 65 00:03:18,947 --> 00:03:20,547 Speaker 5: out the mental side of the game and just be 66 00:03:20,667 --> 00:03:23,027 Speaker 5: really clear and focused so that you can be composed 67 00:03:23,067 --> 00:03:27,907 Speaker 5: so that that's gonna you know, it would be awesome 68 00:03:27,907 --> 00:03:30,627 Speaker 5: for our confidence going down to which will be a 69 00:03:30,627 --> 00:03:32,427 Speaker 5: tough match against Crusaders. 70 00:03:32,547 --> 00:03:33,987 Speaker 2: Ye want to pick up on that in a moment 71 00:03:34,267 --> 00:03:37,947 Speaker 2: at nineteen six down with fifteen minutes to go, did 72 00:03:37,947 --> 00:03:40,707 Speaker 2: you did you have faith still that you could get 73 00:03:40,787 --> 00:03:41,467 Speaker 2: the job done? 74 00:03:42,747 --> 00:03:44,907 Speaker 4: Oh? It was concerned, you know, it was. 75 00:03:44,867 --> 00:03:45,947 Speaker 2: Like fair enough. 76 00:03:46,027 --> 00:03:49,387 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah there all you know, to be honest, 77 00:03:49,467 --> 00:03:51,827 Speaker 5: and as a coach, you're thinking, but we didn't get that. 78 00:03:51,907 --> 00:03:53,707 Speaker 5: We didn't really get to far a shot, you know 79 00:03:53,787 --> 00:03:55,387 Speaker 5: in that first half. You know, you would have seen 80 00:03:55,387 --> 00:03:59,187 Speaker 5: the stats, territory position, we hadn't had any didn't get 81 00:03:59,187 --> 00:03:59,987 Speaker 5: into their twenty two. 82 00:04:00,027 --> 00:04:02,427 Speaker 4: It also it was sort of like is this how 83 00:04:02,467 --> 00:04:03,067 Speaker 4: it's going to end? 84 00:04:03,187 --> 00:04:05,827 Speaker 5: You know, we didn't really get to have a crack 85 00:04:05,867 --> 00:04:07,987 Speaker 5: at them, and then there's a couple of opportunities that 86 00:04:07,987 --> 00:04:11,347 Speaker 5: we missed, and then once we started going, it's like, 87 00:04:11,387 --> 00:04:13,787 Speaker 5: well five minutes is a long time. Ten minutes a 88 00:04:13,787 --> 00:04:14,187 Speaker 5: long time. 89 00:04:14,267 --> 00:04:16,307 Speaker 4: You know. When when Damiens. 90 00:04:15,867 --> 00:04:18,107 Speaker 5: Missed that cack, I was like, okay, well here we 91 00:04:18,147 --> 00:04:21,507 Speaker 5: go and the boys pounced on it and we're hungry, 92 00:04:22,387 --> 00:04:24,587 Speaker 5: so yeah, I mean, that's that's the beauty of the game. 93 00:04:24,627 --> 00:04:27,427 Speaker 5: And it was a I mean, as a spectator, I 94 00:04:27,427 --> 00:04:28,747 Speaker 5: suppose it was a great game to watch. 95 00:04:28,907 --> 00:04:31,067 Speaker 2: It was. It was here for those of us with 96 00:04:31,187 --> 00:04:33,747 Speaker 2: no skin in the game. You're right, it's compelling. I'm 97 00:04:34,107 --> 00:04:36,867 Speaker 2: up off the couch watching that game as if I've 98 00:04:36,907 --> 00:04:39,427 Speaker 2: got some sort of investment in it, which i haven't. 99 00:04:39,547 --> 00:04:42,747 Speaker 2: Just on Damien McKenzie's miss penalty. You know, he kicked 100 00:04:42,747 --> 00:04:45,067 Speaker 2: well all night, but that would have taken them out 101 00:04:45,067 --> 00:04:47,467 Speaker 2: to watch twenty two thirteen? Were you kind of willing 102 00:04:47,507 --> 00:04:49,547 Speaker 2: that one white as he has he kicked it. 103 00:04:50,547 --> 00:04:56,467 Speaker 4: I didn't even watch it, to be honest, love love, Yeah, yeah, 104 00:04:56,947 --> 00:04:59,907 Speaker 4: I'm not going to. I'm not going to, you know, paint. 105 00:04:59,667 --> 00:05:02,227 Speaker 5: These beautiful pictures of all the things you want to hear, mate, 106 00:05:02,227 --> 00:05:03,707 Speaker 5: But I just didn't watch it. I was like, oh, 107 00:05:03,947 --> 00:05:07,467 Speaker 5: you know, and we've been there, We've seen that those 108 00:05:07,547 --> 00:05:08,107 Speaker 5: cats go out. 109 00:05:08,227 --> 00:05:08,787 Speaker 4: We've missed some. 110 00:05:08,947 --> 00:05:12,667 Speaker 5: But you know, and again, like I said, you know, 111 00:05:12,867 --> 00:05:14,707 Speaker 5: the game is when the whistle blows, when it's over. 112 00:05:14,747 --> 00:05:16,347 Speaker 5: And I just love the fact that the boys just 113 00:05:16,427 --> 00:05:20,547 Speaker 5: kept going, keep going. Hoskins got done for crawling, you know, 114 00:05:20,627 --> 00:05:24,107 Speaker 5: and it's like, who cares, let's go again. The boys 115 00:05:24,107 --> 00:05:26,027 Speaker 5: are out there. Apparently the chat was really good, Like 116 00:05:26,067 --> 00:05:28,347 Speaker 5: you say, the leaders store part stood up with body 117 00:05:28,387 --> 00:05:33,067 Speaker 5: and Rique Warson, Dalton Hoskins. You know they live well 118 00:05:33,067 --> 00:05:36,747 Speaker 5: and our bench was was energetic, you know, so what 119 00:05:36,867 --> 00:05:37,587 Speaker 5: more can the house for? 120 00:05:37,827 --> 00:05:40,107 Speaker 2: Yeah, and provided the two tries, you'll be no doubt 121 00:05:40,147 --> 00:05:44,027 Speaker 2: reveling in the fact that too tight forwards scored your tries. 122 00:05:44,067 --> 00:05:45,427 Speaker 2: Have you been making that point today? 123 00:05:46,387 --> 00:05:48,747 Speaker 4: Well, it was all backed last week. That's about. You know, 124 00:05:48,907 --> 00:05:50,507 Speaker 4: you can't have them score on them all the time. 125 00:05:52,307 --> 00:05:54,947 Speaker 4: That's good. That was good. 126 00:05:55,067 --> 00:05:59,027 Speaker 5: Cudy Cutie was he dived in at ankle height and 127 00:05:59,067 --> 00:06:02,667 Speaker 5: got his and then Josh was outstanding and just kept 128 00:06:02,667 --> 00:06:04,907 Speaker 5: his body hide and he's a big man, he's powerful. 129 00:06:04,907 --> 00:06:07,547 Speaker 5: And Georgie lay one of assist them to get out 130 00:06:07,547 --> 00:06:10,427 Speaker 5: of the line, and and those sorts of things are 131 00:06:10,587 --> 00:06:12,107 Speaker 5: you know, the boys will cherish and will. 132 00:06:11,987 --> 00:06:15,587 Speaker 4: Definitely celebrate that maybe. 133 00:06:15,387 --> 00:06:18,027 Speaker 5: Tomorrow when boys come in with a with a six 134 00:06:18,107 --> 00:06:18,787 Speaker 5: day turn around. 135 00:06:18,907 --> 00:06:21,067 Speaker 2: Now you mentioned the Crusaders. I'm sure you've heard the stats. 136 00:06:21,147 --> 00:06:25,027 Speaker 2: They've won thirty straight finals matches in christ Church, and 137 00:06:25,067 --> 00:06:30,907 Speaker 2: I'm equally sure you'll be undaunted heading down there, won't you. 138 00:06:30,907 --> 00:06:33,387 Speaker 5: You You hear this stats, a lot of stats mentioned. 139 00:06:33,427 --> 00:06:35,907 Speaker 4: You hear about you know that. 140 00:06:36,067 --> 00:06:38,147 Speaker 5: I mean, that's a good one, but in the end 141 00:06:38,187 --> 00:06:40,147 Speaker 5: of the day, that's probably not going to be the 142 00:06:40,147 --> 00:06:41,427 Speaker 5: main motivator for us. 143 00:06:41,547 --> 00:06:41,747 Speaker 4: You know. 144 00:06:41,827 --> 00:06:45,667 Speaker 5: That's that's great, it's it's a for the Crusaders, that's great, 145 00:06:45,667 --> 00:06:48,027 Speaker 5: And for us, it's like, oh yeah, but there's more 146 00:06:48,027 --> 00:06:51,067 Speaker 5: at stake here than just breaking a breaking a record, 147 00:06:51,107 --> 00:06:52,947 Speaker 5: you know. So we've have a game to play, and 148 00:06:52,987 --> 00:06:56,547 Speaker 5: I think for us, it's about planning our game, having 149 00:06:56,547 --> 00:07:00,867 Speaker 5: a performance that that can win us the game, and 150 00:07:00,867 --> 00:07:02,707 Speaker 5: and there's still a few things that we can get right. 151 00:07:02,947 --> 00:07:07,507 Speaker 4: You know, wasn't the perfect performance, So that's that's our 152 00:07:07,507 --> 00:07:09,747 Speaker 4: focused But yes, the hell of ste I. 153 00:07:09,707 --> 00:07:12,267 Speaker 2: Know it doesn't matter anymore, Greg because you're in finals 154 00:07:12,267 --> 00:07:15,467 Speaker 2: games now. But why do you think consistency was so 155 00:07:15,547 --> 00:07:18,267 Speaker 2: hard to come by for the Blues in the regular season. 156 00:07:20,547 --> 00:07:23,467 Speaker 5: I think I think there's a number of there's a 157 00:07:23,507 --> 00:07:24,147 Speaker 5: few factors. 158 00:07:24,147 --> 00:07:24,507 Speaker 4: I think. 159 00:07:24,547 --> 00:07:27,307 Speaker 5: You know, we had a New Zealand a team and 160 00:07:27,307 --> 00:07:29,387 Speaker 5: an all black team that were away to feel our boys. 161 00:07:29,147 --> 00:07:29,347 Speaker 4: Isn't it. 162 00:07:29,427 --> 00:07:33,187 Speaker 5: They came back and and didn't really get the probably 163 00:07:33,187 --> 00:07:35,627 Speaker 5: the preseason that I would have liked of them got, 164 00:07:35,867 --> 00:07:37,907 Speaker 5: if you know what I mean. Like, so there was 165 00:07:37,947 --> 00:07:40,547 Speaker 5: a little bit of a stagnated start there, and then 166 00:07:40,547 --> 00:07:43,627 Speaker 5: we lost a few games in the last minute, and 167 00:07:43,867 --> 00:07:46,547 Speaker 5: I think then we just like I said earlier, we 168 00:07:46,547 --> 00:07:48,987 Speaker 5: probably just played a little bit frantic at times and 169 00:07:49,027 --> 00:07:51,147 Speaker 5: tried a little bit too hard and. 170 00:07:51,267 --> 00:07:52,347 Speaker 4: You can't it's. 171 00:07:53,707 --> 00:07:55,827 Speaker 5: Hard to sort of like, I don't know, it just 172 00:07:55,827 --> 00:07:58,307 Speaker 5: depened the boys on trying too hard. It's just pulling 173 00:07:58,347 --> 00:08:01,027 Speaker 5: it back and and just going back to what works 174 00:08:01,027 --> 00:08:03,627 Speaker 5: well for us and keep getting better. And I think 175 00:08:04,307 --> 00:08:08,027 Speaker 5: no one's during the year has actually gone you know, 176 00:08:08,067 --> 00:08:10,027 Speaker 5: I lost confidence in what we're doing, and I think 177 00:08:10,107 --> 00:08:13,147 Speaker 5: VC has done a good job and resetting us and 178 00:08:13,147 --> 00:08:15,827 Speaker 5: coming back to what we're what we're good at, but 179 00:08:15,867 --> 00:08:18,747 Speaker 5: also growing our game at the same time. So yeah, 180 00:08:18,787 --> 00:08:20,627 Speaker 5: there's a few factors there. And we obviously lost a 181 00:08:20,627 --> 00:08:25,547 Speaker 5: couple of guys with Offer and Sam early on, but 182 00:08:26,547 --> 00:08:30,747 Speaker 5: Josh has stepped up, Laggy Louglan McConnell last. 183 00:08:30,627 --> 00:08:32,547 Speaker 4: He stepped up, Josh Berry stepped up. 184 00:08:32,587 --> 00:08:36,827 Speaker 5: And yeah, and I think also our health is pretty 185 00:08:36,827 --> 00:08:40,467 Speaker 5: good too now, so you know, to win games, you 186 00:08:40,507 --> 00:08:44,747 Speaker 5: need players available, and so that's that's all part of it. 187 00:08:44,867 --> 00:08:47,307 Speaker 5: So there's a few factors. There's not always just one 188 00:08:47,387 --> 00:08:48,067 Speaker 5: or two things, you know. 189 00:08:48,347 --> 00:08:50,347 Speaker 2: Yeah, And can I tell you about Josh Flusher Tour. 190 00:08:50,467 --> 00:08:53,107 Speaker 2: He's played all fifteen games this year, started the last ten. 191 00:08:53,707 --> 00:08:55,187 Speaker 2: You reckon he might be all black this year. 192 00:08:56,827 --> 00:08:59,827 Speaker 5: Oh look, I'm reluctant to talk about that stuff because 193 00:08:59,867 --> 00:09:02,387 Speaker 5: it's so you know, it's out of our hands, out 194 00:09:02,387 --> 00:09:05,947 Speaker 5: of my hands, and it's in his a little bit 195 00:09:05,987 --> 00:09:08,587 Speaker 5: more than mine, you know what I mean. So, and 196 00:09:08,667 --> 00:09:10,587 Speaker 5: I don't want to put any more pressure on the guy. 197 00:09:11,707 --> 00:09:15,427 Speaker 5: There are some good players knocking on that door. And 198 00:09:15,947 --> 00:09:17,867 Speaker 5: you know he's done enough this year to show what 199 00:09:17,947 --> 00:09:22,507 Speaker 5: he can do, show is shan massive potential? Well, his 200 00:09:22,587 --> 00:09:25,707 Speaker 5: potential is still there's no ceiling. I don't think, you know, 201 00:09:25,747 --> 00:09:30,307 Speaker 5: he can still get better. So I'm excited for his future, 202 00:09:30,827 --> 00:09:32,827 Speaker 5: you know what I mean, And for us to start with, 203 00:09:32,947 --> 00:09:37,307 Speaker 5: I'm excited for that any His professionalism has just accelerated 204 00:09:37,467 --> 00:09:42,907 Speaker 5: so much around his game off field, and yes, so 205 00:09:43,107 --> 00:09:45,867 Speaker 5: whatever happens happens for him. But he's had a great season. 206 00:09:46,667 --> 00:09:48,547 Speaker 2: Well, you've all earned another Monday. I hope it's a 207 00:09:48,547 --> 00:09:50,907 Speaker 2: great week. Greg, all the best. On Friday night down 208 00:09:50,907 --> 00:09:53,467 Speaker 2: in christ Churches, you look to break that thirty match 209 00:09:53,507 --> 00:09:56,307 Speaker 2: Treek for the Crusaders. Thanks for the chat this afternoon, mate, 210 00:09:57,027 --> 00:10:00,187 Speaker 2: No pleasure, cheers, no thank you, Greg. Greg Seak there 211 00:10:00,507 --> 00:10:04,627 Speaker 2: scrum coach, assistant coach of the Blues. So they earn 212 00:10:04,707 --> 00:10:08,507 Speaker 2: another week they will face the Crusaders and. 213 00:10:08,587 --> 00:10:12,387 Speaker 1: Christian For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen 214 00:10:12,507 --> 00:10:15,747 Speaker 1: live to News Talks it B weekends from midday, or 215 00:10:15,827 --> 00:10:17,707 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.