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Speaker 1: Primary school teachers that are about to get the red

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Speaker 1: carpet rolled out and get the same streamlined pathway to

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Speaker 1: residency that's on offer for their secondary school counterparts. Carl

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Speaker 1: Bruton is an Auckland He's the Primary Principals Association President.

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Speaker 1: He's with me Hi Kyle afternoon. Ryan, Good to have

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Speaker 1: you on. Is this going to help at least?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely, Yeah. We've already seen with a secondary approach

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Speaker 2: that brought somewhere around that four hundred and fifty mark

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Speaker 2: into the country since it was introduced.

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Speaker 1: Is what's your school situation like at the moment.

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Speaker 2: We're out looking for someone at the moment to start

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Speaker 2: in the new term, and based on the applicants, it's

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Speaker 2: still pretty dire out there. Yep. The good thing about

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Speaker 2: this is you've sort of got three layers, right, You've

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Speaker 2: got this which is your immediate solution. So how do

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Speaker 2: we get people fast traped because we can't just magic

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Speaker 2: cup teachers. So this sort of deals with that immediate issue.

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Speaker 2: Then we've got some medium term things happening around that

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Speaker 2: sort of career change. The one year programs where you

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Speaker 2: can have a bit of a lifestyle change coming to teaching,

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Speaker 2: which is a great job. And then that third piece,

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Speaker 2: the long term is how do we get our young

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Speaker 2: people excited about getting into classrooms again and inspiring that

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Speaker 2: next generation.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty disappointing for the Minister to have been given

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Speaker 1: a set of numbers from the Ministry of Education, you know,

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Speaker 1: projecting that they would have a surplus of teachers, and

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Speaker 1: then they turn around and say, actually, no, it's going

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Speaker 1: to be it's going to be a shortage of teachers.

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Speaker 1: It must be pretty frustrating for her. Do you think

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Speaker 1: she's handling this portfolio? Well, how do you rate her?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I give her credit. We as an association have

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Speaker 2: been screaming from the rooftops for a good number of

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Speaker 2: years about this shortage and the Ministry have continued to

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Speaker 2: tell us no, no, We've got the surplus. And it

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Speaker 2: took the current Minister to actually lean on the ministry

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Speaker 2: and say, well, hey on, this doesn't make sense because

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Speaker 2: I'm hearing this and you're telling me this, So what's

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Speaker 2: really going on? And now we have the full answer.

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Speaker 2: So to to that end, I think, you know, she's

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Speaker 2: done a fantastic job and getting the ministry stood up.

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Speaker 1: Interesting. It's a little sad when you know, you think

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Speaker 1: about the fact that kids can't read, write, and spell

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Speaker 1: these days, and then the actually it turns out the

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Speaker 1: ministry can't do it either. Thank you very much, Kyle.

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Speaker 1: Good to have you on car burs and see what

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