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Speaker 2: Hello you and you said as Welcome to Matta Tyler

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Speaker 2: Fall Show podcast number two fifty two for the twenty

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Speaker 2: seventh of November twenty twenty five. So the chat we

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Speaker 2: had today on.

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Speaker 3: Cats excellent chat, Yeah, feral cats, feisty.

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Speaker 2: Lots of stories, including a shocking one for myself, What

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Speaker 2: terrible thing I had to do to a cat?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not proud, traumatic for the listeners and I imagine

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Speaker 3: for yourself as well.

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Speaker 2: And then just pretty rubbish chat on Black Friday at

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Speaker 2: the end of the year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it got adventured into broccoli chat. And I don't

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Speaker 3: know why I encourage that. I'm sorry, mate, I lean

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Speaker 3: too much into the broccoli chat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, some maybe jump out after the empty nest to

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Speaker 2: chat at least you.

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Speaker 3: Like broccoli, and then stick around because there's not good

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Speaker 3: stuff there.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of sticking around, so the years serve the radio

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Speaker 2: listening results throughout today, and once again Tyler and I

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Speaker 2: have done very well. So we've we've had a number

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Speaker 2: So congratulations to zib as a whole, and congratulations to us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and thank you and the old team, yeah, the

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Speaker 2: Andrew out there.

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Speaker 3: Well you me stay no to a letter extent. Yep,

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Speaker 3: everyone all good people. Thank you very much, download, subscribe

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Speaker 2: And give a taste of kere you all right then,

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Speaker 2: love you. So I'm busy the.

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Speaker 1: Big stories, the big issues, the big trends and everything

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Speaker 1: in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News Talk

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoon to you, welcome into Thursday show. Really

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Speaker 3: good to you with us as always made.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for tuning in your great New Zealanders wherever

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Speaker 4: Hey.

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Speaker 2: So, as you may have heard in the news, the

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Speaker 2: radio listener ship numbers are out again and guess what,

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Speaker 2: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons are up again after

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Speaker 2: fourth time and every survey we've ever had, we've been

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Speaker 2: So thank you so much for all of you who

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Speaker 2: all your great New Zealanders who keep joining us every day.

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Speaker 2: I love the station, love doing the show, and love

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Speaker 2: talking to all of you. Every day and it's a

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Speaker 2: nice way to come to the end of the year

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Speaker 2: with another big boost for our show, bloody goods, So

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Speaker 2: thanks everyone. Great to have so many more listeners, but

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Speaker 2: also lucky we are doing well because here the Deepacy

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Speaker 3: Right, she's pretty scary, very scary.

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Speaker 2: So if it was dropping off a cloth before she

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Speaker 3: We We certainly would, but nicely said mate, and we

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Speaker 3: thank you too. Today's show after three o'clock, Stat's a

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Speaker 3: Looking forward to that after two o'clock. Empty Nesters. So

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Speaker 2: And also other question we want to look at us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's going to be a good chat though, that

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Speaker 2: Yeah? There are menace these feral cats. So does New

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Speaker 2: To do them? Hunuman, killum hunting them? Do we need

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Speaker 2: Because in my time, as I said before, I've shot

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Speaker 2: Although this text that says this sounds like the perfect

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Speaker 2: in humanly killed a cat outside his house with a spade.

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Speaker 3: Right now, the truth comes out.

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Speaker 2: I did have to euthanase a cat at one point

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Speaker 2: maybe just we'll leave that there because it wasn't my phone.

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Speaker 3: You need to formulize the facts before you get to

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Speaker 3: All right, that is coming up. But gi, any of

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Speaker 2: And if you deal with feral cats, really are these cats?

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Speaker 2: Where are they coming from? And they're coming from being dumped?

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Speaker 3: Come on through? I wait, one hundred eighteen eighty is

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Speaker 3: If you can't get through, keep trying in nine two

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 3: That'd be sixteen past one, and we're talking about feral cats.

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Speaker 2: Can people?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 2: People say why don't we just go out and desect them?

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Speaker 3: Them, Yeah, because we talked about that a little bit earlier,

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Speaker 3: whatever they've got or take them to the to get murted.

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Speaker 2: But some sexes of animals, their bits are inside.

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Speaker 3: It much harder.

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Speaker 2: Greg, your thoughts on feral cats.

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Speaker 6: but kill the cats. We had some te rage neighbors

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah they shouldn't. I'm makeu you're handing in and

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Speaker 2: And they're amazing creatures. They're amazing creatures. The way they cock,

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Speaker 2: You get this bagarigan gray cat that used to sit

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Speaker 2: Are you calling those those enclosures cattios katos?

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Speaker 9: And and then and then fill it with native birds

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Speaker 9: Thank you, Greg, Yeah, great call. Oh one hundred and

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Speaker 2: Love to hear from you, I'm disgusted at you two

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Speaker 3: Well, no e, you'll be back here. Yeah, you're still there.

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Speaker 3: And if you're not, you'll be back here. You can't

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Speaker 2: You'll be back. It's twenty three parts one of Mike,

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Speaker 2: the headlines and the hard questions.

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Speaker 1: It's the Mic Hosking Breakfast.

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Speaker 10: Twenty five points. It was cash rate of two point

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Speaker 10: two five. Christian Harksby's with us the five to one vote.

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Speaker 2: Who's the one not discosed?

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Speaker 5: Was it you and not discuosed? Why not?

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Speaker 10: Because I'm finding the FED fascinating. I know what the

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Speaker 11: I think we're on probably on a pathway to do that.

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Speaker 11: We need to be careful though, because I look at

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Speaker 12: What do you make of that? If you're in the market, Well, at.

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Speaker 10: Least you know though, don't you back tomorrow at six

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Speaker 3: Is twenty seven past one.

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Speaker 2: Rachel says, my concern would be that my cat looks

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Speaker 2: rural areas freaking havoc. Yeah, it would would be close

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Speaker 2: to your home. Afternoon, guys, I managed a large property

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Speaker 2: a great afternoon, boys. Regards Craig. Thank you for your text.

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Speaker 3: Craig, just on that So we did some research into

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Speaker 3: When it comes to possums, the estimate is twenty five million.

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Speaker 2: Julie, welcome to the show. What do you think about

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Speaker 8: Why is it that? Ever?

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Speaker 14: Seems the problem seems to be is fueral cats? Feral

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Speaker 2: So do you think we said cal humans humans.

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Speaker 3: Don't let them out of their house.

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Speaker 14: I wouldn't chance, I wouldn't think that. It's just I

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Speaker 5: Just a load of b s.

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Speaker 2: So, but when you have to pick winners and losers, right,

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Speaker 2: So whilst you can have your love for the feral cats,

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Speaker 2: these other species. Julie.

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Speaker 14: Yes, but as I say, it's just everything that goes

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll think if you call Julie. Yeah, but one

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Speaker 2: of those things that goes wrong is one hundred million

438
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Speaker 2: deaths a year exactly of native species.

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Speaker 3: I just think a few more rules for cat owners

440
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Speaker 3: and you know, building up a week caddyo, is there

441
00:20:55,333 --> 00:20:57,773
Speaker 3: too much to us there? There's some responsibility there for

442
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Speaker 3: a cat owner to make sure.

443
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Speaker 2: I absolutely agree with Julie that you scumbag if you

444
00:21:02,093 --> 00:21:05,453
Speaker 2: leave cats behind or dumb cats. Yeah, absolutely, that the

445
00:21:05,573 --> 00:21:08,733
Speaker 2: humans that do that are as much of a a

446
00:21:08,893 --> 00:21:10,893
Speaker 2: cause of the problem as the cats are. Yeah. You

447
00:21:10,973 --> 00:21:12,573
Speaker 2: know you are a dirt bag if you do that.

448
00:21:12,773 --> 00:21:14,573
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're right, one hundred million you've got a

449
00:21:14,573 --> 00:21:16,453
Speaker 3: little pole pots in your house and you don't know

450
00:21:16,493 --> 00:21:18,333
Speaker 3: about it. That is just going out in serial killing

451
00:21:18,413 --> 00:21:20,573
Speaker 3: every day. All right, we'll go the headlines hot on

452
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Speaker 3: our tail, but love to hear your thoughts about feral cats. O.

453
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Speaker 3: Eight one hundred and eighty ten eighties and number to

454
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Speaker 3: cour twenty nine to two.

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Speaker 15: Jus talk sat the headlines with blue bubble taxis. It's

456
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Speaker 15: no trouble with a blue bubble, Hong Kong Police. A

457
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Speaker 15: flammable building materials may be a factor, A big factor

458
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Speaker 15: in a deadly inferno and a multi building apartment complex.

459
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Speaker 15: It's still burning. At least forty four people have died,

460
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Speaker 15: two hundred and eighty are missing. Christ Church's Craycroft Reserve

461
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Speaker 15: has been named as the preferred site for a memorial

462
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Speaker 15: to this nineteen seventy nine mount Erebus plane crash disaster,

463
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Speaker 15: when two hundred and fifty seven people died. One person's

464
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Speaker 15: died in a motorcycle crash on State Highway one at

465
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Speaker 15: Waitepapa Bay near Caikoda. The road remains blocked. Some survivors

466
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Speaker 15: of torture at Lake Alice Hospital will receive redress payments

467
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Speaker 15: ranging between one hundred and sixty and six hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 15: An Auckland surfer is lucky to be alive after being

469
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Speaker 15: found by a helicopter when a rip swept in more

470
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Speaker 15: than a kilometer off PHR Beach in complete darkness on

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Speaker 15: Tuesday night.

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Speaker 15: Now back to Matteath and Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Trailian. So we're talking about the

479
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Speaker 3: problem of feral cats and it's well known that they

480
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Speaker 3: kill a lot of wildlife, but a new problem that's

481
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Speaker 3: emerging as as topso players mosis that is causing abortion

482
00:22:58,853 --> 00:23:02,573
Speaker 3: storms on farms effectively during lambing season, and they don't

483
00:23:02,613 --> 00:23:04,653
Speaker 3: know it. In tall lambing season starts where a whole

484
00:23:04,653 --> 00:23:08,493
Speaker 3: bunch of views are aborted sadly because of that parasite.

485
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Speaker 2: Sounds like a terrible heavy metal band, doesn't it. Abortion storm? Yeah,

486
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Speaker 2: I would not listen to them.

487
00:23:13,653 --> 00:23:14,893
Speaker 3: No, it's controversial.

488
00:23:15,253 --> 00:23:17,453
Speaker 2: That texto about up before that said that they will

489
00:23:17,493 --> 00:23:19,413
Speaker 2: not be listening to us anymore because of what we

490
00:23:19,413 --> 00:23:25,053
Speaker 2: were saying about cats. Yes, and I said you'll be back. Well,

491
00:23:25,053 --> 00:23:27,573
Speaker 2: they've texted and said they will not be back, so

492
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Speaker 2: they didn't leave.

493
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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, so they stayed around just to seeing that text.

494
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Speaker 2: I was wrong when I said you'll be back. Ye,

495
00:23:32,733 --> 00:23:34,733
Speaker 2: I should have said you'll never leave, because she still

496
00:23:34,813 --> 00:23:36,773
Speaker 2: was texting your complaining. But I's still there and they'll

497
00:23:36,773 --> 00:23:40,773
Speaker 2: still keep texting. This text to Jack says, for cats,

498
00:23:41,253 --> 00:23:43,813
Speaker 2: we need a bounty placed on them. Five dollars for

499
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Speaker 2: a possum, fifty dollars for a ferret, and seventy dollars

500
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Speaker 2: for a cat. Yeah, but then you get I mean,

501
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Speaker 2: have you heard of the cobra effect. No, it's a

502
00:23:51,653 --> 00:23:57,693
Speaker 2: famous situation in in India in the early nineteen hundreds.

503
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Speaker 2: So the government offered a bounty for every dead cobra.

504
00:24:00,613 --> 00:24:04,013
Speaker 2: They wanted to clean up the cobra problem to reduce

505
00:24:04,053 --> 00:24:06,133
Speaker 2: the numbers, right, send them want all those venomous snakes

506
00:24:06,173 --> 00:24:10,133
Speaker 2: and Delhi. And itended up with more cobras because people

507
00:24:10,213 --> 00:24:12,573
Speaker 2: began breeding the cobras to collect the award. Forward.

508
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Speaker 3: Yeah, smarter on the people.

509
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Speaker 2: So if you given seventy dollars to it for a cat, yeah,

510
00:24:16,253 --> 00:24:18,773
Speaker 2: people are going to be running legal cattories, growing the cats,

511
00:24:18,853 --> 00:24:20,973
Speaker 2: killing them and delivering them for the cat yeah, yeah.

512
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Speaker 3: You're doing a lot doing that.

513
00:24:21,693 --> 00:24:25,133
Speaker 2: Is always these unforeseen circumstances with policies that seem good

514
00:24:25,173 --> 00:24:25,693
Speaker 2: on the surface.

515
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

516
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Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

517
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Speaker 3: to call. Tony. You've got a cautionary tale about feral cats.

518
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Speaker 12: Yeah, I have, go, guys, you're good. I of Seemi rural,

519
00:24:40,773 --> 00:24:42,973
Speaker 12: sort of out of the country, and we get all

520
00:24:43,053 --> 00:24:47,813
Speaker 12: sorts of possums and rabbits and whatever. Well, we ended

521
00:24:47,893 --> 00:24:50,893
Speaker 12: up hearing a cat nowling at night one time. We

522
00:24:51,173 --> 00:24:53,213
Speaker 12: sort of went out, couldn't sort of see what it

523
00:24:53,453 --> 00:24:56,173
Speaker 12: was bringing them neighbors who are quite a way away,

524
00:24:56,933 --> 00:24:59,093
Speaker 12: just to check to see if anybody had lost the cat. No,

525
00:24:59,253 --> 00:25:02,933
Speaker 12: they hadn't. And what we had noticed. We get on

526
00:25:03,053 --> 00:25:06,893
Speaker 12: little quails and are we getting kickos? We get everything

527
00:25:07,013 --> 00:25:09,253
Speaker 12: around our place, and we we had noticed that the

528
00:25:09,653 --> 00:25:14,133
Speaker 12: didn't seem to be the same number. Anyway, we borrowed

529
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Speaker 12: a trap. I don't know if it's cat trap, but

530
00:25:17,013 --> 00:25:19,693
Speaker 12: it was like a cage trap. Put it on our

531
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Speaker 12: deck and we thought we'll give it a crack and

532
00:25:21,453 --> 00:25:25,293
Speaker 12: see what happens. Anyway, we got up in the morning

533
00:25:25,333 --> 00:25:27,693
Speaker 12: owners a cat and the trap, and the cat was.

534
00:25:28,573 --> 00:25:31,533
Speaker 12: It looked well groomed. It looked neat and tidy, well fed.

535
00:25:31,973 --> 00:25:34,693
Speaker 12: It wasn't hissing at us or anything not that we PopEd.

536
00:25:34,733 --> 00:25:39,292
Speaker 12: It rang up the regional council. They said, you need

537
00:25:39,373 --> 00:25:43,653
Speaker 12: to take to a vet and see if it's microchipped. Okay,

538
00:25:43,773 --> 00:25:47,133
Speaker 12: that's fine, it's in the cage. So I was around.

539
00:25:47,173 --> 00:25:50,453
Speaker 12: My wife took it to the local vet and.

540
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Speaker 6: They see it.

541
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Speaker 12: When he got here, he said, well, we've called a cat.

542
00:25:53,293 --> 00:25:55,773
Speaker 12: We don't know if it's feral. It can the micro

543
00:25:55,893 --> 00:25:59,933
Speaker 12: chip it and they say here, that's all fine. Anyway,

544
00:26:00,253 --> 00:26:04,613
Speaker 12: the woman straightaway just decided to open the cage and

545
00:26:04,693 --> 00:26:06,493
Speaker 12: my wife did say, well, we're not sure if this

546
00:26:06,653 --> 00:26:09,333
Speaker 12: thing's feral. And they saw opened the cage and the

547
00:26:09,493 --> 00:26:13,693
Speaker 12: thing sprung out. When mental all around the vets room

548
00:26:14,173 --> 00:26:17,653
Speaker 12: and one of the vets it, we're crazy. My wife

549
00:26:17,733 --> 00:26:19,533
Speaker 12: got out of the room. In the end, they sort

550
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Speaker 12: of caught it with a net or something, I don't

551
00:26:21,213 --> 00:26:23,293
Speaker 12: know what they caught it with, stuck it back in

552
00:26:23,373 --> 00:26:26,213
Speaker 12: the cage, and then they had to go up my wife.

553
00:26:26,253 --> 00:26:28,693
Speaker 12: They said, why did you bring a feeral cat to us?

554
00:26:28,973 --> 00:26:31,213
Speaker 12: And you know I didn't. I didn't know what if it.

555
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Speaker 2: Was your fault you didn't know you were doing the

556
00:26:35,373 --> 00:26:36,573
Speaker 2: right chaos and.

557
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Speaker 16: The victa.

558
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Speaker 12: And which she did. In fairness, she did say to them,

559
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Speaker 12: I don't have that's such a good idea, I think

560
00:26:42,733 --> 00:26:47,733
Speaker 12: that anyway, they said, and she said, well can you

561
00:26:47,853 --> 00:26:49,973
Speaker 12: use that? No, we're not allowed to just fit nice

562
00:26:50,013 --> 00:26:51,933
Speaker 12: and they have to. We have to wait seven days

563
00:26:51,973 --> 00:26:54,093
Speaker 12: and we're not. We can't hang on to it. You're

564
00:26:54,093 --> 00:26:56,293
Speaker 12: don't have to deal with yourself, you know, go go

565
00:26:56,413 --> 00:27:01,613
Speaker 12: away or so. Anyway, she took the cat back in

566
00:27:01,693 --> 00:27:05,853
Speaker 12: the cage home and shot it, killed it.

567
00:27:06,933 --> 00:27:09,493
Speaker 8: It y just it was.

568
00:27:10,133 --> 00:27:10,893
Speaker 6: There's nothing she could do.

569
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Speaker 12: She couldn't let it out. Nobody was going to do

570
00:27:12,853 --> 00:27:15,213
Speaker 12: anything with it for us. So she had to get

571
00:27:15,213 --> 00:27:17,213
Speaker 12: the gun out. And there's a nice little cat, look

572
00:27:17,253 --> 00:27:17,413
Speaker 12: at her.

573
00:27:17,453 --> 00:27:18,093
Speaker 7: She has to kill it.

574
00:27:19,013 --> 00:27:21,733
Speaker 2: See that's hard, that's hard. That's hard for you, your missus,

575
00:27:21,773 --> 00:27:23,093
Speaker 2: to do something like that. Imagine.

576
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Speaker 12: Yeah, Well the outside of that is we're a friendly

577
00:27:28,293 --> 00:27:31,013
Speaker 12: plummet used to work for us. He doesn't, he won't

578
00:27:31,013 --> 00:27:35,133
Speaker 12: return our cause he's black, does completely and we didn't

579
00:27:35,173 --> 00:27:37,853
Speaker 12: know why. Well we found out his wife's a vet.

580
00:27:43,253 --> 00:27:44,173
Speaker 2: This is a great story.

581
00:27:45,733 --> 00:27:48,293
Speaker 3: The chaos that feral cats can cause to your life.

582
00:27:49,933 --> 00:27:52,453
Speaker 12: Well, yeah, exactly right, and it is a cautionary tale.

583
00:27:52,453 --> 00:27:54,532
Speaker 12: I mean, we're sort of hunting gather of types. Anyway,

584
00:27:54,573 --> 00:27:57,373
Speaker 12: we go fishing. My neighbor's got a big property and

585
00:27:57,413 --> 00:27:59,973
Speaker 12: he's plague with rabbits. We get over there and knock

586
00:27:59,973 --> 00:28:01,573
Speaker 12: a few rabbits off that source. So when I was

587
00:28:01,573 --> 00:28:03,933
Speaker 12: a young fellow used to trap possums down and willing

588
00:28:04,013 --> 00:28:06,933
Speaker 12: to skin them, sell the skins to the local farry

589
00:28:06,933 --> 00:28:10,453
Speaker 12: and all that sort of stuff. But I don't want

590
00:28:10,493 --> 00:28:13,013
Speaker 12: to Just if I see a cat on my property,

591
00:28:13,013 --> 00:28:14,493
Speaker 12: I don't want to shoot it because it might be

592
00:28:14,573 --> 00:28:17,333
Speaker 12: feral and something. But some people told me, I don't

593
00:28:17,333 --> 00:28:19,653
Speaker 12: know how true it is, but they say that the

594
00:28:19,773 --> 00:28:23,933
Speaker 12: feral cats will never ever perr right. You know, we're

595
00:28:24,013 --> 00:28:26,893
Speaker 12: like I said, sit there and they're comfortable. They won't

596
00:28:26,973 --> 00:28:28,373
Speaker 12: pur right.

597
00:28:29,053 --> 00:28:31,373
Speaker 2: I heard. I've heard. I've heard tony that the noises

598
00:28:31,413 --> 00:28:33,613
Speaker 2: that cats make, they don't actually make them in the wild.

599
00:28:33,893 --> 00:28:35,693
Speaker 2: They're just for humans when they're walking around now and

600
00:28:35,733 --> 00:28:36,653
Speaker 2: they're imitating humans.

601
00:28:38,133 --> 00:28:41,853
Speaker 12: Yeah, I believe that this cat. I say, I was

602
00:28:41,893 --> 00:28:45,893
Speaker 12: away and my wife felt this cat. She said, we've

603
00:28:45,973 --> 00:28:50,093
Speaker 12: never had cats, but we have had other cats. When

604
00:28:50,133 --> 00:28:52,093
Speaker 12: we bought our property. The lady that we bought it off,

605
00:28:52,133 --> 00:28:55,093
Speaker 12: she had five cats. Three of them lived inside, two

606
00:28:55,093 --> 00:28:58,013
Speaker 12: of them lived outside. When she moved up the road,

607
00:28:58,573 --> 00:29:00,973
Speaker 12: she decided to take her cats with her and said,

608
00:29:01,333 --> 00:29:01,893
Speaker 12: see a letter.

609
00:29:02,453 --> 00:29:03,093
Speaker 6: Were the two.

610
00:29:03,213 --> 00:29:06,693
Speaker 12: Outside ones turned up at our place again and we

611
00:29:07,413 --> 00:29:09,973
Speaker 12: tried to trap for a long time, but they were

612
00:29:10,013 --> 00:29:14,493
Speaker 12: too cunning for us. We trapped all the neighbors as cats.

613
00:29:14,773 --> 00:29:17,613
Speaker 12: We trapped about three or four cats, and I'm not

614
00:29:17,693 --> 00:29:20,453
Speaker 12: sure what happened to her was but we did see

615
00:29:20,493 --> 00:29:23,533
Speaker 12: them from time to time and they were mangy, scaby

616
00:29:23,613 --> 00:29:26,013
Speaker 12: looking things. You could tell they were feral, but this

617
00:29:26,133 --> 00:29:29,293
Speaker 12: particular one wasn't. So you know, if you want to

618
00:29:29,373 --> 00:29:32,773
Speaker 12: keep your plumber, don't take your vet the cat to

619
00:29:32,853 --> 00:29:33,173
Speaker 12: the vet.

620
00:29:34,533 --> 00:29:37,933
Speaker 2: And hey, final question, Tony, the vets didn't charge you

621
00:29:38,053 --> 00:29:40,133
Speaker 2: for that Mickey Mouse show, did they?

622
00:29:41,493 --> 00:29:43,213
Speaker 12: No, Well, they didn't do anything.

623
00:29:45,853 --> 00:29:47,173
Speaker 3: They no longer talk to you as well.

624
00:29:48,813 --> 00:29:51,053
Speaker 12: Well, we haven't tried because we don't have an animal,

625
00:29:51,133 --> 00:29:54,693
Speaker 12: but certainly, you know we would. We believe that's what's happened,

626
00:29:54,693 --> 00:29:57,093
Speaker 12: but certainly they gave my wife a mouthful.

627
00:29:57,533 --> 00:29:59,773
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank you for you just as the hell

628
00:29:59,813 --> 00:30:00,213
Speaker 2: of a story.

629
00:30:00,253 --> 00:30:02,333
Speaker 3: See feral cats, man, it's not just out in the wild.

630
00:30:02,773 --> 00:30:06,013
Speaker 2: Maybe if I get up enough courage, i'll share my

631
00:30:06,133 --> 00:30:07,573
Speaker 2: failed attempt to euthanize a cat.

632
00:30:07,653 --> 00:30:09,773
Speaker 3: There's a lot of people asking, Yeah, I think you

633
00:30:09,893 --> 00:30:12,533
Speaker 3: need to share. It'll be cathartic. All right, that's coming

634
00:30:12,613 --> 00:30:14,973
Speaker 3: up very shortly. We'll take a quick break and then

635
00:30:15,093 --> 00:30:17,293
Speaker 3: we'll have a chat to Jeff, who reckons they're definitely

636
00:30:17,293 --> 00:30:18,773
Speaker 3: a problem. It's eighteen to two.

637
00:30:19,813 --> 00:30:23,733
Speaker 1: Have a chat with the lads on Matt Heath and

638
00:30:23,813 --> 00:30:26,453
Speaker 1: Taylor Adams afternoons. News talks'd be.

639
00:30:27,693 --> 00:30:31,093
Speaker 3: News talks b quarter to two. Just quickly. Tony mentioned

640
00:30:31,133 --> 00:30:33,613
Speaker 3: that he'd heard feral cats don't purr, which is a

641
00:30:33,653 --> 00:30:35,453
Speaker 3: bit of a tellte sign between a domestic and a

642
00:30:35,533 --> 00:30:37,853
Speaker 3: feral and he's quite right. So just dug into some

643
00:30:37,973 --> 00:30:42,093
Speaker 3: research and a mother feral cat discourages peering in her

644
00:30:42,133 --> 00:30:45,613
Speaker 3: kittens to avoid attracting predators. So it's all about stealth.

645
00:30:45,853 --> 00:30:48,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, and adult cats only now at humans to communicate

646
00:30:48,653 --> 00:30:50,213
Speaker 2: their needs. They don't meow at each other, and if

647
00:30:50,253 --> 00:30:52,293
Speaker 2: they hiss at each other, yeap, But they don't walk

648
00:30:52,333 --> 00:30:55,053
Speaker 2: around yowing at each other. Interesting so that's just for

649
00:30:55,213 --> 00:30:58,053
Speaker 2: our good and just an update on the text before

650
00:30:58,133 --> 00:31:01,373
Speaker 2: that said that the listener who said that that they

651
00:31:01,413 --> 00:31:04,093
Speaker 2: were leaving the show because of our supposed support of

652
00:31:04,173 --> 00:31:07,493
Speaker 2: the murder of cats, yep. And then I said that

653
00:31:07,573 --> 00:31:10,093
Speaker 2: they wouldn't leave. And then they text them back and

654
00:31:10,133 --> 00:31:13,293
Speaker 2: said I said that they would stay. Ye, well, they'd

655
00:31:13,333 --> 00:31:15,213
Speaker 2: be back. Then they text it back and said, I

656
00:31:15,293 --> 00:31:17,533
Speaker 2: will not be back. And then I said, well, you

657
00:31:17,653 --> 00:31:20,573
Speaker 2: haven't even left, and they said, listen, I am leaving.

658
00:31:20,733 --> 00:31:22,493
Speaker 2: I was just waiting to hear what you said about

659
00:31:22,533 --> 00:31:23,773
Speaker 2: my text. We still haven't left.

660
00:31:23,813 --> 00:31:25,813
Speaker 3: I'm loving the storyline. We've got to keep this going.

661
00:31:25,853 --> 00:31:27,013
Speaker 3: This is great, this is traumatic.

662
00:31:27,093 --> 00:31:30,373
Speaker 2: So if you're still with us, I stand by my

663
00:31:30,893 --> 00:31:32,213
Speaker 2: statement that you'll be back.

664
00:31:33,693 --> 00:31:38,453
Speaker 3: We'll get a lovedade on that you haven't even left. Jeff,

665
00:31:38,493 --> 00:31:40,773
Speaker 3: you reckon. It's definitely a problem the old feral cats.

666
00:31:42,613 --> 00:31:47,013
Speaker 13: Yes, it amazes me that more people ud aware the

667
00:31:47,133 --> 00:31:49,933
Speaker 13: manner found it damage that they do around us onto

668
00:31:50,013 --> 00:31:53,493
Speaker 13: our bird life and our lizards, and how it hasn't

669
00:31:53,533 --> 00:31:56,653
Speaker 13: come to the fore a lot sooner. I think perhaps

670
00:31:56,733 --> 00:31:59,013
Speaker 13: the SBCA might have played it down a bit because

671
00:31:59,053 --> 00:32:01,413
Speaker 13: they get too many donations from the little ladies that

672
00:32:03,053 --> 00:32:07,253
Speaker 13: I think you're right, yeah, yeah, and you guys could

673
00:32:07,373 --> 00:32:12,213
Speaker 13: check this out. The policy from FBPA is that if

674
00:32:12,253 --> 00:32:14,693
Speaker 13: you bring it in for a Catchworld cat and bring

675
00:32:14,773 --> 00:32:17,773
Speaker 13: it into the UK and as then they'll they'll desect

676
00:32:17,893 --> 00:32:20,613
Speaker 13: it and then let it go again. So it's out

677
00:32:20,653 --> 00:32:22,413
Speaker 13: there killing a whole lot more of our eligits and

678
00:32:22,493 --> 00:32:26,173
Speaker 13: birds until it dies of old age. So something needs

679
00:32:26,173 --> 00:32:29,173
Speaker 13: to be done about it. Yeah, about how we how

680
00:32:29,253 --> 00:32:32,173
Speaker 13: we solve the problem. I think we make it that

681
00:32:32,253 --> 00:32:34,733
Speaker 13: if you have a cat and you ship it, that

682
00:32:34,893 --> 00:32:37,333
Speaker 13: you have to keep it in at night time because

683
00:32:37,333 --> 00:32:41,333
Speaker 13: they mostly hunt at nighttime, and then nowadays they add

684
00:32:41,413 --> 00:32:44,973
Speaker 13: them to thermal scopes and the light. If people see

685
00:32:45,253 --> 00:32:47,693
Speaker 13: cats out and about during the night time, well it's

686
00:32:47,733 --> 00:32:49,013
Speaker 13: our open game shoot them.

687
00:32:49,973 --> 00:32:52,133
Speaker 2: Do you think so? You think the country is just

688
00:32:52,173 --> 00:32:56,093
Speaker 2: too emotionally attached to cats for us to realistically fix

689
00:32:56,213 --> 00:33:00,413
Speaker 2: the problem, because famously the Internet and my Instagram feed,

690
00:33:00,453 --> 00:33:02,693
Speaker 2: for example, is full of cute pictures of cats. Do

691
00:33:02,733 --> 00:33:08,533
Speaker 2: you think that we have trouble, you know, separate the

692
00:33:08,613 --> 00:33:12,013
Speaker 2: idea of these cute cats with these killing machines that

693
00:33:12,093 --> 00:33:14,693
Speaker 2: are out and about and messing up at.

694
00:33:14,613 --> 00:33:17,333
Speaker 4: Rural areas, Oh for sure.

695
00:33:17,693 --> 00:33:20,653
Speaker 13: I mean hopefully with education and will come around. People

696
00:33:20,733 --> 00:33:23,973
Speaker 13: realize the damageure they do. I live in the way

697
00:33:24,053 --> 00:33:25,573
Speaker 13: wrapper and we use it and we've got a big

698
00:33:25,653 --> 00:33:29,293
Speaker 13: lawn out front window. We used to have forty in

699
00:33:29,373 --> 00:33:32,053
Speaker 13: California quail. I mean, I know they're not native, but

700
00:33:32,133 --> 00:33:35,813
Speaker 13: they were nights forty of them running across the lawn

701
00:33:35,853 --> 00:33:38,093
Speaker 13: every morning and night. And they went from Grandad all

702
00:33:38,133 --> 00:33:39,893
Speaker 13: the way down to the new Chicks.

703
00:33:41,373 --> 00:33:41,893
Speaker 15: And then.

704
00:33:43,293 --> 00:33:46,213
Speaker 13: The neighbor was given a fair old kitten or it

705
00:33:46,293 --> 00:33:48,693
Speaker 13: came from a you know, it's a vial of kitten,

706
00:33:49,053 --> 00:33:54,013
Speaker 13: and they tamed it well. Unfortunately they are killing and

707
00:33:54,133 --> 00:33:57,493
Speaker 13: it wiped out the whole whole family of forty quails.

708
00:33:59,173 --> 00:34:02,133
Speaker 13: Hi hunt and I've been down in land Kaikoura is

709
00:34:02,213 --> 00:34:05,133
Speaker 13: up eighteen hundred meters in the shale country. Come over

710
00:34:05,173 --> 00:34:07,933
Speaker 13: a ridge and here's the wild cat. I mean they're

711
00:34:07,973 --> 00:34:10,812
Speaker 13: every were And I talked to a lot of other

712
00:34:10,893 --> 00:34:14,093
Speaker 13: hunters and yeah, they are a big problem. But to

713
00:34:14,253 --> 00:34:17,613
Speaker 13: touch on the what you were asking about topsic players, Mosis,

714
00:34:17,693 --> 00:34:20,893
Speaker 13: it's probably yeah, it's been around a long time. We

715
00:34:21,053 --> 00:34:24,933
Speaker 13: used to have a lifestyle lock in the Hut Valley

716
00:34:25,013 --> 00:34:30,293
Speaker 13: and I come from a rural background, not particularly sheep,

717
00:34:30,413 --> 00:34:33,053
Speaker 13: but we had about forty sheep at the time and

718
00:34:33,573 --> 00:34:37,133
Speaker 13: they were all heavily pregnant. We were down the neighbors grazing,

719
00:34:37,453 --> 00:34:40,293
Speaker 13: and then we had to new neighbors moving next door,

720
00:34:40,333 --> 00:34:41,853
Speaker 13: and they had a whole lot of dogs, but they

721
00:34:41,933 --> 00:34:45,853
Speaker 13: had about forty cats as well, and we knew nothing

722
00:34:45,893 --> 00:34:51,292
Speaker 13: about tops it plas moss or vaccinating against it, because

723
00:34:51,333 --> 00:34:53,053
Speaker 13: it's not something that comes up a lot. A lot

724
00:34:53,093 --> 00:34:58,413
Speaker 13: of farmers don't vaccinate against it. If you do, once

725
00:34:58,493 --> 00:35:03,013
Speaker 13: they've got the once you use catch tots it, they

726
00:35:03,053 --> 00:35:05,813
Speaker 13: will have bought and then they become immune to it.

727
00:35:06,373 --> 00:35:10,133
Speaker 13: Is by understanding, at least that's we found. Anyway, of

728
00:35:10,253 --> 00:35:12,613
Speaker 13: those forty us that we brought back gively and lamb

729
00:35:12,693 --> 00:35:14,453
Speaker 13: from there on the neighbors back to our own place,

730
00:35:14,493 --> 00:35:16,933
Speaker 13: and they were in the paddock next to this the

731
00:35:17,533 --> 00:35:20,973
Speaker 13: neighbors with all these cats. They had their lambs and

732
00:35:21,053 --> 00:35:25,773
Speaker 13: when they when they were born, perfect big healthy lambs,

733
00:35:25,893 --> 00:35:27,933
Speaker 13: and then all of a sudden they all started taking

734
00:35:28,213 --> 00:35:30,652
Speaker 13: it as kind of semi hill country. They were all

735
00:35:30,813 --> 00:35:34,493
Speaker 13: taking fits and stems and then rolling down the hill,

736
00:35:34,573 --> 00:35:36,772
Speaker 13: and we were trying to keep them alive and work

737
00:35:36,813 --> 00:35:39,533
Speaker 13: out what the problem was. And then eventually we were

738
00:35:39,653 --> 00:35:45,253
Speaker 13: told what they thoughts plasmosis. But normally they you will abought.

739
00:35:45,373 --> 00:35:47,813
Speaker 13: But because they were so heavily pregnant and not on

740
00:35:47,893 --> 00:35:50,213
Speaker 13: the property, and when they come back and they caught it,

741
00:35:51,653 --> 00:35:55,053
Speaker 13: they were that was you know, they were too far

742
00:35:55,213 --> 00:35:58,613
Speaker 13: gone to actually a bought. So they had the lambs.

743
00:35:58,653 --> 00:36:00,813
Speaker 13: They've seemed fine, and then next minute they were all

744
00:36:00,893 --> 00:36:04,253
Speaker 13: running around taking fits and dying. It was pretty horrific.

745
00:36:04,453 --> 00:36:07,373
Speaker 13: We lost fifty percent of.

746
00:36:07,453 --> 00:36:09,212
Speaker 2: The landow wow.

747
00:36:09,573 --> 00:36:09,772
Speaker 15: Yeah.

748
00:36:10,613 --> 00:36:13,053
Speaker 13: And another one of the farms that I hunt on.

749
00:36:13,253 --> 00:36:18,733
Speaker 13: Then on the y Rapper, he had the same problem

750
00:36:18,813 --> 00:36:23,093
Speaker 13: about three years ago with TOPSI tops players bass and

751
00:36:23,253 --> 00:36:24,613
Speaker 13: he lost I think it was over.

752
00:36:26,413 --> 00:36:26,773
Speaker 8: Lambs.

753
00:36:27,413 --> 00:36:30,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is yeah, you can see I devastated. It

754
00:36:30,213 --> 00:36:32,693
Speaker 3: is for farm owners and sheep farmers.

755
00:36:33,013 --> 00:36:36,652
Speaker 2: Fifty what's the famous story that you know, what Jeff

756
00:36:36,653 --> 00:36:38,733
Speaker 2: were saying brought to mind the story of tibbles.

757
00:36:38,773 --> 00:36:39,253
Speaker 5: Have you heard the.

758
00:36:40,733 --> 00:36:45,133
Speaker 2: Story of tibbles? It's a very famous story. This Stephen's Island,

759
00:36:45,213 --> 00:36:47,373
Speaker 2: ren So and and I think it was in the

760
00:36:47,453 --> 00:36:51,213
Speaker 2: late eighteen hundreds in the Malboo Sounds there was the

761
00:36:51,613 --> 00:36:55,253
Speaker 2: last species of you know, there was an entire species

762
00:36:55,733 --> 00:36:58,733
Speaker 2: that was on this island with the lighthouse, and the

763
00:36:58,813 --> 00:37:02,973
Speaker 2: lighthouse owner had this cat called Tibbles, and Tibbles killed

764
00:37:03,133 --> 00:37:07,252
Speaker 2: every single one. Jeez of genocide of the Stuart Island wren.

765
00:37:07,333 --> 00:37:09,692
Speaker 2: I think it was also called was it the lyle something?

766
00:37:09,693 --> 00:37:13,133
Speaker 2: There's some kind of rent anyway. The upshot is eighteen

767
00:37:14,213 --> 00:37:17,772
Speaker 2: eighteen ninety five, I believe something around that era. Eighteen nineties. Yeah,

768
00:37:18,373 --> 00:37:23,573
Speaker 2: so they find the species of wren, then it's only

769
00:37:23,613 --> 00:37:27,333
Speaker 2: on this one island. Lighthouse is put on there, lighthouse

770
00:37:27,453 --> 00:37:31,053
Speaker 2: keeper moves in with his cat Tibbles. Tibbles kills every

771
00:37:31,213 --> 00:37:36,172
Speaker 2: single one of the species. Ap expitators. Yeah, OK, they're

772
00:37:36,213 --> 00:37:38,853
Speaker 2: amazing creatures, natural born cans. Look, we've just got to

773
00:37:38,933 --> 00:37:42,373
Speaker 2: be clear here. I'm no cat hater. You put a

774
00:37:42,453 --> 00:37:44,573
Speaker 2: cat on, a purring cat on my knee, I'll stroke

775
00:37:44,653 --> 00:37:45,053
Speaker 2: that cat.

776
00:37:45,253 --> 00:37:45,453
Speaker 3: Yep.

777
00:37:45,493 --> 00:37:48,173
Speaker 2: I had a number of cats when when I was

778
00:37:48,173 --> 00:37:51,333
Speaker 2: a kid. Rip Peterkin, Peterkin, Peterkin, Yeah, what.

779
00:37:51,333 --> 00:37:53,253
Speaker 3: Happened to p I'd even want to ask what happened

780
00:37:53,253 --> 00:37:55,133
Speaker 3: to Peterkin? What happened on your farm?

781
00:37:55,213 --> 00:37:57,772
Speaker 2: No, Peterkin lived a right old age away.

782
00:37:57,813 --> 00:37:58,773
Speaker 3: Yeah, natural causes.

783
00:37:58,853 --> 00:37:59,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, natural causes.

784
00:37:59,813 --> 00:38:00,133
Speaker 13: It's rare.

785
00:38:00,213 --> 00:38:04,373
Speaker 3: On the farther right, Beckon Mo it is seven minutes

786
00:38:04,413 --> 00:38:04,732
Speaker 3: to two.

787
00:38:06,053 --> 00:38:09,893
Speaker 1: Matties Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred eighty

788
00:38:09,973 --> 00:38:13,613
Speaker 1: ten eighty. It's mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons news Talk

789
00:38:13,653 --> 00:38:14,013
Speaker 1: send me.

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00:38:15,573 --> 00:38:17,212
Speaker 3: It is four minutes to two.

791
00:38:17,813 --> 00:38:20,453
Speaker 2: Liz says cats are not the problem. It is irresponsible

792
00:38:20,453 --> 00:38:23,333
Speaker 2: people dumping their unwanted animals. I live rurally and get

793
00:38:23,413 --> 00:38:26,652
Speaker 2: cats dumped here yearly, which we catch desex and feed. Well,

794
00:38:26,733 --> 00:38:31,093
Speaker 2: you're a good person, Liz, although even once they're de

795
00:38:31,293 --> 00:38:34,533
Speaker 2: sext they still can live for quite some time. Cats

796
00:38:34,533 --> 00:38:36,573
Speaker 2: when they're in the wild and do a lot of

797
00:38:36,693 --> 00:38:42,293
Speaker 2: damage to our native wildlife and bats, and and then

798
00:38:42,933 --> 00:38:46,093
Speaker 2: and then they're if feces can affect the dolphins, not

799
00:38:46,213 --> 00:38:49,093
Speaker 2: the dolphins, then washing storms. Should we keep this going

800
00:38:49,133 --> 00:38:50,773
Speaker 2: on after two o'clock?

801
00:38:50,853 --> 00:38:52,692
Speaker 3: Tyler, Yeah, we've got a lot of people who want

802
00:38:52,693 --> 00:38:54,212
Speaker 3: to have a chat full boards. But if you don't

803
00:38:54,253 --> 00:38:56,172
Speaker 3: get through, keep trying. And also you have you had

804
00:38:56,213 --> 00:38:58,333
Speaker 3: to think about whether you're going to share this cat story.

805
00:38:58,413 --> 00:38:59,813
Speaker 3: You've got a lot of people want to hear it.

806
00:38:59,973 --> 00:39:05,212
Speaker 2: My failed euthanation attempt. Yeah, euthanasia attempt. Well, let's see

807
00:39:05,333 --> 00:39:07,773
Speaker 2: nine two. If enough people want to hear this horrific

808
00:39:07,813 --> 00:39:08,613
Speaker 2: story that I'm share.

809
00:39:08,893 --> 00:39:11,493
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, your name, text it through. It's going to

810
00:39:11,573 --> 00:39:14,973
Speaker 3: come right Newsport and whether is coming up. See you

811
00:39:15,053 --> 00:39:15,613
Speaker 3: on the other side.

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00:39:17,893 --> 00:39:22,173
Speaker 1: Your new homes are inspful and entertaining. Talk It's Matty

813
00:39:22,453 --> 00:39:25,053
Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams afternoons.

814
00:39:24,693 --> 00:39:27,133
Speaker 2: On news Talk Sebby today to you.

815
00:39:27,253 --> 00:39:30,093
Speaker 3: Welcome back into the show. It is six parts too.

816
00:39:30,173 --> 00:39:32,613
Speaker 3: We're going to carry on our discussion about fearal cats

817
00:39:32,653 --> 00:39:34,653
Speaker 3: to bring you up to speed. We all know that

818
00:39:34,733 --> 00:39:36,933
Speaker 3: feral cats are a problem when it comes to our wildlife.

819
00:39:36,973 --> 00:39:42,373
Speaker 3: But farmers now facing the problem of the parasite toxoplasmosis.

820
00:39:42,733 --> 00:39:45,533
Speaker 3: So it's getting into farmland via there dropping sheep, grazing,

821
00:39:46,253 --> 00:39:50,133
Speaker 3: contaminated pasture, and often the first sign appears during lambing

822
00:39:50,213 --> 00:39:53,413
Speaker 3: when sudden abortion storms as farmers call it, wipe out

823
00:39:53,493 --> 00:39:55,533
Speaker 3: many lambs and it's also affecting dolphins.

824
00:39:55,693 --> 00:39:59,652
Speaker 2: So the toxoplasmosis is pretty grim. Fiona has just takes

825
00:39:59,693 --> 00:40:01,533
Speaker 2: it through. My son is partially blind and one eye

826
00:40:01,613 --> 00:40:04,653
Speaker 2: due to toxoplasmosis. The parasite goneto a eia due to

827
00:40:04,773 --> 00:40:08,013
Speaker 2: cats pooing in the kindy sandpit. Wow, they can't kill

828
00:40:08,053 --> 00:40:10,733
Speaker 2: the power, so it just occasionally flares up and unfortunately

829
00:40:10,813 --> 00:40:13,493
Speaker 2: has left and with only peripheral vision in that eye.

830
00:40:13,613 --> 00:40:15,813
Speaker 2: That is intense horrific. So a lot of people are

831
00:40:15,813 --> 00:40:19,213
Speaker 2: asking what is toxoplosmosis. Well, it's a microscopic parasite that

832
00:40:19,253 --> 00:40:23,213
Speaker 2: lives and reproduces and cats and spreads through their droppings.

833
00:40:23,933 --> 00:40:27,013
Speaker 2: Humans and other animals like sheep and dolphins and birds

834
00:40:27,053 --> 00:40:30,813
Speaker 2: can catch it by accidentally ingesting contaminated soil, water, grass, hay,

835
00:40:30,933 --> 00:40:36,573
Speaker 2: or unwanted vegetables. Cats shed millions of infectious parasitic eggs

836
00:40:36,933 --> 00:40:41,333
Speaker 2: in their leavings. These survive in the environment for months,

837
00:40:41,413 --> 00:40:44,973
Speaker 2: contaminating land and feed. Other animals get infected by grazing

838
00:40:45,053 --> 00:40:50,493
Speaker 2: or drinking contaminated water. And yeah, I mean if human

839
00:40:50,573 --> 00:40:54,653
Speaker 2: symptoms flu like aches, fever, fatigue, swollen ganands and stuff,

840
00:40:55,493 --> 00:41:01,093
Speaker 2: so it's crazy. It can also well, look in sheep,

841
00:41:01,133 --> 00:41:04,013
Speaker 2: it can cause abortion storms. As we said, humans, the

842
00:41:04,093 --> 00:41:06,893
Speaker 2: symptoms are usually mild but can be really really bad

843
00:41:07,013 --> 00:41:10,333
Speaker 2: but very dangerous for preat woman and people with a

844
00:41:10,373 --> 00:41:14,373
Speaker 2: weakened immune systems and children and such. But yeah, it

845
00:41:14,453 --> 00:41:19,573
Speaker 2: can be deadly for lammies. Yeah, Terry, we're really bad

846
00:41:19,653 --> 00:41:21,813
Speaker 2: for dolphies, terrible for birdies.

847
00:41:21,933 --> 00:41:24,893
Speaker 3: Once you start going after the dolphins, clearly we've got

848
00:41:24,933 --> 00:41:26,573
Speaker 3: to come after you. As in feral cats.

849
00:41:26,613 --> 00:41:27,253
Speaker 2: But what do you say?

850
00:41:27,333 --> 00:41:28,693
Speaker 3: I one hundred eighty ten eighty.

851
00:41:28,693 --> 00:41:32,373
Speaker 2: And in fact you shared last our Tyler. Feral cats

852
00:41:32,533 --> 00:41:36,733
Speaker 2: in New Zealand are killing one hundred million native birds, bats,

853
00:41:36,813 --> 00:41:41,293
Speaker 2: and lizards correct every year? Yep, one hundred million according

854
00:41:41,333 --> 00:41:41,853
Speaker 2: to doc.

855
00:41:41,813 --> 00:41:44,373
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is crazy numbers. And to put that into context,

856
00:41:44,453 --> 00:41:46,733
Speaker 3: possums it's estimated killed twenty five million.

857
00:41:46,893 --> 00:41:50,253
Speaker 2: But patsys just remember boys, cats also kill rats, mice, etcetera.

858
00:41:50,373 --> 00:41:53,013
Speaker 2: By removing them, you might also get increases in vermin

859
00:41:53,373 --> 00:41:54,213
Speaker 2: something to think about.

860
00:41:54,413 --> 00:41:57,772
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fair. Maybe I eight hundred eighty ten eighty

861
00:41:57,893 --> 00:41:59,292
Speaker 3: is the number two call.

862
00:42:00,333 --> 00:42:03,093
Speaker 2: So we were talking about my Euthanasian cat euthanasia story,

863
00:42:03,093 --> 00:42:05,732
Speaker 2: and I think that Paul has texted through here. There's

864
00:42:05,733 --> 00:42:07,533
Speaker 2: a couple of texts here that on it that I

865
00:42:07,613 --> 00:42:11,693
Speaker 2: think quite good. Yeah, Shares says, don't encourage Matt with

866
00:42:11,773 --> 00:42:15,652
Speaker 2: his bad boy behavior, Tyler. No one wants to hear

867
00:42:15,693 --> 00:42:17,933
Speaker 2: his youth in Asia story. Just so he seems tough.

868
00:42:18,213 --> 00:42:20,293
Speaker 3: You do you definitely want to hear this. I want

869
00:42:20,333 --> 00:42:22,533
Speaker 3: to hear it. I only know the bare bones of

870
00:42:22,573 --> 00:42:23,133
Speaker 3: the situation.

871
00:42:23,933 --> 00:42:28,733
Speaker 2: I don't think that the story about my youth aanaising

872
00:42:28,773 --> 00:42:32,333
Speaker 2: a cat makes me look tough. Shares it's not good. Hi, Matt,

873
00:42:32,373 --> 00:42:34,692
Speaker 2: Paul here, if you're having doubts about sharing your cat

874
00:42:34,733 --> 00:42:36,693
Speaker 2: youth in asia story, I recommend you keep it yourself.

875
00:42:36,733 --> 00:42:38,252
Speaker 2: You have little to gain and a lot to lose

876
00:42:38,333 --> 00:42:41,613
Speaker 2: from reputation perspective, especially with the thousands of cat loving

877
00:42:41,853 --> 00:42:44,613
Speaker 2: older people who listen to your show. Don't let Tyler

878
00:42:44,653 --> 00:42:46,733
Speaker 2: talk you into it. Yeah, okay, Paul, your good point.

879
00:42:46,573 --> 00:42:49,693
Speaker 3: Paul, Well, this one, this text to here is really convincing. Actually,

880
00:42:50,013 --> 00:42:53,133
Speaker 3: when we ask the question, should you share that story? Yes,

881
00:42:54,133 --> 00:42:54,973
Speaker 3: it's all you need to hear.

882
00:42:55,053 --> 00:42:59,453
Speaker 2: Man. Well, look ill, I'll think about it. Okay, Kerrie,

883
00:42:59,893 --> 00:43:02,653
Speaker 2: welcome to show your thoughts on feral cats.

884
00:43:03,533 --> 00:43:07,373
Speaker 8: Oh hello, guys. I used to have a property in

885
00:43:07,493 --> 00:43:13,053
Speaker 8: Mount Talbert and the next to us there was a

886
00:43:13,213 --> 00:43:18,013
Speaker 8: driveway that went down to a oh what do you

887
00:43:18,133 --> 00:43:20,453
Speaker 8: call them? With a whole lot of houses at the end.

888
00:43:23,413 --> 00:43:26,733
Speaker 2: Is it a cul de sac or a No, it

889
00:43:26,933 --> 00:43:31,533
Speaker 2: was a driveway. Yes, yeah, I mean yeah yeah.

890
00:43:32,133 --> 00:43:36,493
Speaker 8: And down down there also was this bush. It wasn't

891
00:43:36,573 --> 00:43:38,453
Speaker 8: it was more than a bush. We had trees on

892
00:43:38,573 --> 00:43:42,573
Speaker 8: it and everything. And they there were fell cats that

893
00:43:42,813 --> 00:43:46,133
Speaker 8: used to live in that bush. And I used to

894
00:43:46,213 --> 00:43:51,213
Speaker 8: feed my cats on the back porch and at feeding

895
00:43:51,413 --> 00:43:54,973
Speaker 8: time they would come up and you know, try and

896
00:43:55,053 --> 00:44:00,813
Speaker 8: eat my cat's food. So I rang the SPCA and

897
00:44:01,973 --> 00:44:06,133
Speaker 8: a lady came round with a trap and she told

898
00:44:06,213 --> 00:44:08,933
Speaker 8: me how to use it and what to do, and

899
00:44:09,133 --> 00:44:17,053
Speaker 8: then take them to them our local vet and he will, oh,

900
00:44:17,173 --> 00:44:18,733
Speaker 8: what do you call it when you fix.

901
00:44:18,653 --> 00:44:20,893
Speaker 2: Up the catan spae.

902
00:44:21,373 --> 00:44:24,973
Speaker 8: Mutant spade years, that kind of And they covered all

903
00:44:25,133 --> 00:44:25,733
Speaker 8: the vet.

904
00:44:25,653 --> 00:44:29,413
Speaker 2: Bills, nippets, peck wheels off, that kind of thing. Yeah,

905
00:44:30,013 --> 00:44:31,293
Speaker 2: are the SPCA covered.

906
00:44:31,133 --> 00:44:34,733
Speaker 8: All the bills FPCA. They brought me a trap and

907
00:44:34,853 --> 00:44:37,093
Speaker 8: told me to take it to my local vet, which

908
00:44:37,173 --> 00:44:40,733
Speaker 8: I did. Oh, there must have been about six to

909
00:44:40,893 --> 00:44:47,573
Speaker 8: eight something like that, and they covered all the vet bills.

910
00:44:48,333 --> 00:44:51,013
Speaker 8: Now this is a long time ago. This must be

911
00:44:51,133 --> 00:44:54,293
Speaker 8: about twenty five years ago. But I don't know if

912
00:44:54,373 --> 00:44:59,053
Speaker 8: they still do that practice. But I was so thankful

913
00:44:59,173 --> 00:45:04,933
Speaker 8: to them that I thought to myself later, well, if

914
00:45:05,013 --> 00:45:08,533
Speaker 8: anything happens to me, I'd like to leave a or

915
00:45:08,653 --> 00:45:12,213
Speaker 8: something for the SBC A for the help that they

916
00:45:12,373 --> 00:45:16,213
Speaker 8: gave us. So I just want to give them a plug.

917
00:45:16,813 --> 00:45:17,333
Speaker 13: Got on you.

918
00:45:17,533 --> 00:45:19,573
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you give them any money? Do you put

919
00:45:19,613 --> 00:45:20,493
Speaker 2: them in your well or anything?

920
00:45:20,573 --> 00:45:20,812
Speaker 5: Cary?

921
00:45:22,573 --> 00:45:24,733
Speaker 8: No, Well, I haven't put them, I will tell you

922
00:45:24,853 --> 00:45:25,333
Speaker 8: is the truth.

923
00:45:25,733 --> 00:45:28,413
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you've given them a big up on the radio.

924
00:45:28,573 --> 00:45:30,933
Speaker 2: So that's that's a little something something for their PCA.

925
00:45:31,013 --> 00:45:32,212
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your call, Cary.

926
00:45:32,253 --> 00:45:34,333
Speaker 3: They are good people, no doubt about it. It's but

927
00:45:34,373 --> 00:45:36,373
Speaker 3: I one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

928
00:45:36,413 --> 00:45:38,133
Speaker 3: to call if you've got a problem with feral cats

929
00:45:38,293 --> 00:45:40,053
Speaker 3: or if you think people are getting a little bit

930
00:45:40,573 --> 00:45:42,733
Speaker 3: over the top when it comes to our hatred of

931
00:45:42,773 --> 00:45:43,333
Speaker 3: feral cats.

932
00:45:43,373 --> 00:45:45,853
Speaker 2: Love to hear from you now, I have some sympathy

933
00:45:45,933 --> 00:45:47,613
Speaker 2: for this text to hear that says that one hundred

934
00:45:47,653 --> 00:45:51,373
Speaker 2: million number is totally made up and unapprovable. So that's

935
00:45:51,413 --> 00:45:53,773
Speaker 2: the dock number. Yeah, it does sound a little bit

936
00:45:53,813 --> 00:45:54,853
Speaker 2: made up, one hundred million.

937
00:45:55,453 --> 00:45:56,773
Speaker 3: It's it's just estimated.

938
00:45:56,853 --> 00:45:59,933
Speaker 2: There's no doubt that that feral cats are doing terrible things. No,

939
00:46:00,453 --> 00:46:02,573
Speaker 2: but when I hear a number like one hundred million.

940
00:46:02,773 --> 00:46:05,173
Speaker 2: It's just it's a little convenient that it's one hundred million.

941
00:46:05,493 --> 00:46:08,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a lot of native wildlife to pick up

942
00:46:08,013 --> 00:46:09,252
Speaker 3: and cant to some sort of telling.

943
00:46:09,373 --> 00:46:11,653
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, It's not eighty eight million,

944
00:46:12,493 --> 00:46:15,333
Speaker 2: three hundred and seventy two than one hundred and twelve,

945
00:46:15,453 --> 00:46:17,333
Speaker 2: you know, you know what I'm saying. It's just a

946
00:46:17,373 --> 00:46:21,013
Speaker 2: little bit like one hundred million.

947
00:46:21,573 --> 00:46:24,533
Speaker 3: It's a big number. Well, here is a fact that

948
00:46:24,693 --> 00:46:26,813
Speaker 3: can be proven actually when it comes to feral cats.

949
00:46:27,173 --> 00:46:31,893
Speaker 3: So a twenty nineteen to twenty twenty one study showed

950
00:46:32,013 --> 00:46:35,692
Speaker 3: that of kia killed in Arthur's Pass in between Lewis Pass,

951
00:46:36,173 --> 00:46:39,093
Speaker 3: thirty percent of monitored kia were killed by feral cats.

952
00:46:39,333 --> 00:46:40,613
Speaker 3: So that's not a good stat I mean, it's not

953
00:46:40,653 --> 00:46:43,933
Speaker 3: one hundred million, but having almost a third of the

954
00:46:44,053 --> 00:46:46,533
Speaker 3: kia taken out by feral cats.

955
00:46:46,773 --> 00:46:48,973
Speaker 2: Yes, So all these people are saying that you're being

956
00:46:49,093 --> 00:46:54,733
Speaker 2: incredibly mean about cats and that you're horrible murderers and

957
00:46:55,373 --> 00:47:03,533
Speaker 2: you're you're perpetuating a cat aside or whatever. Yeah, all

958
00:47:03,613 --> 00:47:07,493
Speaker 2: fear things fear, but also you're choosing winners there, aren't you,

959
00:47:07,653 --> 00:47:10,973
Speaker 2: Because because kias we love kas too.

960
00:47:11,173 --> 00:47:13,413
Speaker 3: Love keys. I'll take a key over a cat any day.

961
00:47:13,613 --> 00:47:13,973
Speaker 8: What do you want?

962
00:47:14,013 --> 00:47:15,853
Speaker 2: The feral cats are the keyas that's the question.

963
00:47:16,053 --> 00:47:17,653
Speaker 3: Cheers can be aholes, I've got to say, but the

964
00:47:17,773 --> 00:47:20,533
Speaker 3: beautiful birds. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the

965
00:47:20,573 --> 00:47:22,533
Speaker 3: number to call. Nine two ninety two. We're a bit late,

966
00:47:22,573 --> 00:47:24,293
Speaker 3: so we've got to play some messages. But when we

967
00:47:24,453 --> 00:47:28,013
Speaker 3: come back, we'll have a chat with Maverick very shortly.

968
00:47:28,173 --> 00:47:30,493
Speaker 3: So he's got a whole bunch of feral cats near

969
00:47:30,533 --> 00:47:30,973
Speaker 3: his property.

970
00:47:31,013 --> 00:47:32,613
Speaker 2: You've got a problem with Ka. They ripped your card

971
00:47:32,613 --> 00:47:34,253
Speaker 2: to pieces on a on a walk, didn't they?

972
00:47:34,333 --> 00:47:37,333
Speaker 3: Yeah they did. Yeah, I might share that story. It's

973
00:47:37,373 --> 00:47:39,373
Speaker 3: not not quite as traumatic as you're one. But that's

974
00:47:39,413 --> 00:47:40,493
Speaker 3: coming up. Quarter bas too.

975
00:47:42,013 --> 00:47:45,293
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon talk mad he than Taylor Adams

976
00:47:45,453 --> 00:47:49,453
Speaker 1: afternoons call, Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty us talk said.

977
00:47:49,333 --> 00:47:49,413
Speaker 16: Be.

978
00:47:51,173 --> 00:47:53,373
Speaker 3: Seventeen pars too. Do we need to do more to

979
00:47:53,453 --> 00:47:56,453
Speaker 3: combat feral cats? Nine to nine to text and know?

980
00:47:56,533 --> 00:47:58,053
Speaker 3: Eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

981
00:47:58,053 --> 00:48:02,292
Speaker 3: to call. Text here from Great Barrier Island. Get a guys,

982
00:48:02,333 --> 00:48:04,773
Speaker 3: I'm a local and Great Barrier with a pit tamed

983
00:48:04,933 --> 00:48:07,773
Speaker 3: feral cat. My partner would die for her. They sleep

984
00:48:07,893 --> 00:48:11,853
Speaker 3: with the cat on her feet. Autopsies over here show

985
00:48:11,973 --> 00:48:14,493
Speaker 3: more often than not feral cats full of rats, not birds,

986
00:48:14,613 --> 00:48:18,133
Speaker 3: and not lizards. We kill three rats a night on average.

987
00:48:18,173 --> 00:48:19,933
Speaker 3: The bush and the birds, et cetera would be gone

988
00:48:20,013 --> 00:48:22,893
Speaker 3: without the cats, dock or a woke killing machine.

989
00:48:23,213 --> 00:48:26,373
Speaker 2: Oh, shots fired, woke killing machine. It's not something you

990
00:48:26,413 --> 00:48:29,493
Speaker 2: ever hear. That's a terrifying concept of Hi, I run

991
00:48:29,573 --> 00:48:32,853
Speaker 2: a trap Oh, hang in a minute, what's this? This

992
00:48:32,973 --> 00:48:35,373
Speaker 2: one here? Sorry, Hi, I run a trap line having

993
00:48:35,413 --> 00:48:38,493
Speaker 2: caught cats, rats, hedgehogs, doats, mice mainly, we all know

994
00:48:38,573 --> 00:48:41,053
Speaker 2: predator free by twenty two thousand and fifty as a joke,

995
00:48:41,173 --> 00:48:43,573
Speaker 2: as is one hundred million birds killed by feral cats.

996
00:48:43,573 --> 00:48:45,933
Speaker 2: Where do they get these figures from the same place

997
00:48:45,973 --> 00:48:49,053
Speaker 2: where there's seventy million possums we have had for fifty

998
00:48:49,173 --> 00:48:51,533
Speaker 2: years regards art, now, a lot of people are calling

999
00:48:51,533 --> 00:48:53,733
Speaker 2: into question that hundred million, so they might have overshot

1000
00:48:53,773 --> 00:48:56,013
Speaker 2: the mark with that. It's unbelievable.

1001
00:48:56,013 --> 00:48:56,652
Speaker 3: It's a big number.

1002
00:48:56,933 --> 00:49:03,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, this person says, this is a load of Gareth

1003
00:49:03,773 --> 00:49:07,413
Speaker 2: Morgan rubbish, pathetic cat hate. This what a load of crap.

1004
00:49:07,653 --> 00:49:11,573
Speaker 2: Rats and birds are the biggest predators. Math was blaming

1005
00:49:11,653 --> 00:49:13,693
Speaker 2: hedgehogs for eating Kiwi eggs and then found it was

1006
00:49:13,733 --> 00:49:16,453
Speaker 2: actually owls. Easy to blame those that you don't like,

1007
00:49:16,573 --> 00:49:19,853
Speaker 2: isn't it Leave the cats alone, catch and re home.

1008
00:49:20,253 --> 00:49:24,853
Speaker 2: That last guy sounds like a load of crap. Toxoplasmosis

1009
00:49:25,253 --> 00:49:28,333
Speaker 2: is it even real? Whatever? Never known any animal or

1010
00:49:28,413 --> 00:49:32,013
Speaker 2: human to get this from cats, But possums pea everywhere,

1011
00:49:32,213 --> 00:49:35,333
Speaker 2: and their pea is surely toxic to animals and humans alike.

1012
00:49:35,573 --> 00:49:37,413
Speaker 3: There's a lot of claims made in that dex, a

1013
00:49:37,453 --> 00:49:39,893
Speaker 3: lot of claims. I will push back on birds being

1014
00:49:39,933 --> 00:49:42,413
Speaker 3: the worst predators in New Zealands. I mean, how many

1015
00:49:42,453 --> 00:49:44,773
Speaker 3: owls are out there? And I think they prefer mice,

1016
00:49:44,853 --> 00:49:47,453
Speaker 3: don't they? Lovely? We mice for an hour more pork?

1017
00:49:47,733 --> 00:49:51,173
Speaker 2: Well, your Kiwis are going after the roots, shoots and leaves,

1018
00:49:51,773 --> 00:49:54,453
Speaker 2: maybe the odd that's a joke, isn't it that one?

1019
00:49:54,573 --> 00:49:54,772
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1020
00:49:54,933 --> 00:49:57,973
Speaker 2: Classic Kiwi? But also the worms.

1021
00:49:58,093 --> 00:50:00,013
Speaker 3: But we'll get rid of them then, you know, we

1022
00:50:00,093 --> 00:50:03,053
Speaker 3: love our worms. Maverick, you've got some problems with feral

1023
00:50:03,093 --> 00:50:04,693
Speaker 3: cats in the bush behind your place?

1024
00:50:06,013 --> 00:50:06,172
Speaker 12: Oh?

1025
00:50:06,733 --> 00:50:10,493
Speaker 7: Yes, and no, before I give them. The feral cats met.

1026
00:50:11,413 --> 00:50:12,692
Speaker 2: You listening, I am yes.

1027
00:50:13,693 --> 00:50:13,933
Speaker 16: Good.

1028
00:50:14,573 --> 00:50:15,652
Speaker 7: Have you received my book?

1029
00:50:16,293 --> 00:50:19,293
Speaker 2: I have not yet. I've not received it. You've seen

1030
00:50:19,333 --> 00:50:21,773
Speaker 2: it too, okay, because you initially seen it to four

1031
00:50:21,813 --> 00:50:23,453
Speaker 2: Graham Street, but it needs to be two Graham Street.

1032
00:50:23,533 --> 00:50:23,893
Speaker 5: Is that right.

1033
00:50:25,213 --> 00:50:26,053
Speaker 7: I've seen it before.

1034
00:50:26,253 --> 00:50:31,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think that's gone to chorus upstairs maybe Maverick.

1035
00:50:31,213 --> 00:50:32,933
Speaker 3: They're probably perusing it right now.

1036
00:50:33,053 --> 00:50:35,253
Speaker 2: I'll send out a I'll send out a searcher.

1037
00:50:37,613 --> 00:50:39,453
Speaker 7: If you can't find it, let me know. You've got

1038
00:50:39,533 --> 00:50:40,133
Speaker 7: my phone number.

1039
00:50:40,373 --> 00:50:40,573
Speaker 5: YEP.

1040
00:50:41,093 --> 00:50:43,853
Speaker 7: On feral cats, I live in port Way, Kado on

1041
00:50:43,973 --> 00:50:47,013
Speaker 7: the river, not far from where it is out in

1042
00:50:47,013 --> 00:50:51,772
Speaker 7: the Tasman, and the feral cats are awesome in one way.

1043
00:50:51,893 --> 00:50:56,613
Speaker 7: They munt all the rats and mice on the riverside.

1044
00:50:56,773 --> 00:50:58,733
Speaker 7: You know, they're down there all the times, cleaning up.

1045
00:50:58,893 --> 00:51:02,172
Speaker 7: And occasionally you've seen them across the road and they've

1046
00:51:02,173 --> 00:51:05,053
Speaker 7: got a big rattle mice in their mouth and feeling

1047
00:51:05,213 --> 00:51:10,893
Speaker 7: very proud of themselves. And all I'll say is if

1048
00:51:10,973 --> 00:51:13,693
Speaker 7: you feed them, they will not kill anything.

1049
00:51:16,453 --> 00:51:19,172
Speaker 3: Well if you if you feed the feral cats, they

1050
00:51:19,213 --> 00:51:20,893
Speaker 3: won't take out the native wild birds.

1051
00:51:21,853 --> 00:51:24,173
Speaker 7: The reason I say that is that I've got a

1052
00:51:24,253 --> 00:51:27,893
Speaker 7: neighbor who's got three domestic cats, and the feral cats

1053
00:51:27,933 --> 00:51:31,732
Speaker 7: come down and help themselves to all us dishes out

1054
00:51:31,773 --> 00:51:35,653
Speaker 7: in the debt. And they are so tame and so loving,

1055
00:51:35,773 --> 00:51:39,293
Speaker 7: and they're all black, you know, beautiful cats in a

1056
00:51:39,373 --> 00:51:44,692
Speaker 7: lot of ways, and you know, just oh hard.

1057
00:51:44,773 --> 00:51:44,813
Speaker 17: No.

1058
00:51:45,093 --> 00:51:48,093
Speaker 7: Nature is a beautiful thing. And when they're said, like

1059
00:51:48,253 --> 00:51:50,253
Speaker 7: all of us we need to eat. If we don't eat,

1060
00:51:50,333 --> 00:51:52,292
Speaker 7: we die, and they're the same.

1061
00:51:52,933 --> 00:51:55,853
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's right. I mean, if it's the Sigfreed

1062
00:51:55,933 --> 00:51:59,853
Speaker 2: and Roy argument, isn't it with their big cat Like,

1063
00:51:59,933 --> 00:52:03,732
Speaker 2: if Manticor is full and hungry, then he won't eat Roy.

1064
00:52:04,453 --> 00:52:06,212
Speaker 2: But then one day Manticor did eat Roy.

1065
00:52:06,373 --> 00:52:06,692
Speaker 5: He did.

1066
00:52:06,973 --> 00:52:10,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was pretty too. That was horrible, right, Yeah.

1067
00:52:10,053 --> 00:52:15,013
Speaker 2: Then you know they're little, but they're just little versions

1068
00:52:15,013 --> 00:52:16,133
Speaker 2: of the big cats, yea, aren't they.

1069
00:52:16,253 --> 00:52:18,133
Speaker 3: You're went over some with whiskers, but not all of them.

1070
00:52:18,333 --> 00:52:21,533
Speaker 2: Matt's this, Chris is Matt. The problem is serious. Your

1071
00:52:21,613 --> 00:52:25,413
Speaker 2: conversation is sick. Stop making jokes about cats. And Tyler

1072
00:52:25,613 --> 00:52:28,252
Speaker 2: stopped laughing in agreements. Chris.

1073
00:52:28,933 --> 00:52:31,013
Speaker 3: Well, look, if I find it funny, I'm gonna laugh.

1074
00:52:33,053 --> 00:52:35,093
Speaker 2: It is a serious problem, though, Chris, So we'll take

1075
00:52:35,093 --> 00:52:35,653
Speaker 2: it very seriously.

1076
00:52:35,773 --> 00:52:37,893
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah right, they're going to be serious

1077
00:52:37,933 --> 00:52:40,693
Speaker 3: from now on. Well, we've got the cat conversation going up,

1078
00:52:40,813 --> 00:52:43,252
Speaker 3: and then we'll get back to Larican this a little

1079
00:52:43,293 --> 00:52:43,693
Speaker 3: bit later on.

1080
00:52:43,853 --> 00:52:48,533
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Okay, it's really Tyler's fault for laughing

1081
00:52:48,573 --> 00:52:50,013
Speaker 2: at my my terrible joke.

1082
00:52:50,093 --> 00:52:50,373
Speaker 17: No more.

1083
00:52:50,373 --> 00:52:52,453
Speaker 3: I'll stop laughing full stop, not just on the show,

1084
00:52:52,573 --> 00:52:54,173
Speaker 3: just in general life. I'm so sorry.

1085
00:52:54,293 --> 00:52:56,053
Speaker 2: As teachers say, stop encouraging it.

1086
00:52:56,253 --> 00:52:58,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's twenty two parts two. Oh, you're going to

1087
00:52:59,173 --> 00:53:00,613
Speaker 3: tell your story. You're still thinking about it.

1088
00:53:01,853 --> 00:53:02,933
Speaker 2: I'll tell my story quickly.

1089
00:53:02,973 --> 00:53:04,812
Speaker 3: Okay, that's coming up. Twenty three parts two.

1090
00:53:08,773 --> 00:53:12,133
Speaker 1: Mad Heathan Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred and

1091
00:53:12,173 --> 00:53:14,053
Speaker 1: eighty eighty on Youth Talk ZV.

1092
00:53:14,613 --> 00:53:15,653
Speaker 3: Hey how are you?

1093
00:53:16,613 --> 00:53:17,652
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, good.

1094
00:53:17,733 --> 00:53:17,933
Speaker 16: Yeah.

1095
00:53:18,613 --> 00:53:20,652
Speaker 4: A lot of your callers are sort of sidled most of.

1096
00:53:20,653 --> 00:53:21,692
Speaker 3: It, but they are.

1097
00:53:22,093 --> 00:53:25,333
Speaker 4: They are a pest and fire As I'm concerned, like

1098
00:53:25,453 --> 00:53:29,013
Speaker 4: they can carry diseases and what have you, and far

1099
00:53:29,093 --> 00:53:31,293
Speaker 4: as I if you're a cat owner, you're so concerned

1100
00:53:31,333 --> 00:53:35,613
Speaker 4: about these ferret cats, I think you should get yours chipped.

1101
00:53:35,733 --> 00:53:38,093
Speaker 4: So then like that one of your previous call. They

1102
00:53:38,173 --> 00:53:40,733
Speaker 4: take them to the vet. I'd I hope the technology

1103
00:53:40,813 --> 00:53:43,453
Speaker 4: improves somehow they can skin they actually can scan them.

1104
00:53:43,453 --> 00:53:45,253
Speaker 4: But you've got to hold my head. One a few

1105
00:53:45,373 --> 00:53:48,413
Speaker 4: years ago there was a domestic cat, but I actually

1106
00:53:48,453 --> 00:53:50,613
Speaker 4: took it to the vet and there was had no chipped,

1107
00:53:50,693 --> 00:53:53,053
Speaker 4: nothing in it. So that's actually quite hard to find

1108
00:53:53,093 --> 00:53:55,772
Speaker 4: out where they're actually owned by somebody. But it wasn't.

1109
00:53:56,093 --> 00:53:59,093
Speaker 4: It wasn't. It wasn't a Ferreit cat. It was just

1110
00:53:59,293 --> 00:54:01,733
Speaker 4: a yeah, someone hadn't chipped it. But it's up to

1111
00:54:01,813 --> 00:54:04,013
Speaker 4: the owners if you don't want to get to the

1112
00:54:04,093 --> 00:54:06,812
Speaker 4: situation when someone's gonna shoot it or put it down,

1113
00:54:07,373 --> 00:54:10,173
Speaker 4: get them chips. They can track them down if not

1114
00:54:10,373 --> 00:54:12,973
Speaker 4: been sorry to say, is you know you can't have

1115
00:54:13,013 --> 00:54:14,813
Speaker 4: them running around because they do, you know they do.

1116
00:54:15,653 --> 00:54:17,173
Speaker 4: We got one right next being. Now we've got some

1117
00:54:17,333 --> 00:54:20,692
Speaker 4: little we sparrows. I think in our nest. Who's our

1118
00:54:20,813 --> 00:54:23,773
Speaker 4: nesting right now? There is a ket little cat next door,

1119
00:54:23,813 --> 00:54:26,533
Speaker 4: little kitten. They do what they've got to do. And

1120
00:54:26,653 --> 00:54:30,453
Speaker 4: he's up in the tree. And then my neighbor said,

1121
00:54:30,773 --> 00:54:33,053
Speaker 4: so he's lucky chasing the avenue tree. Now he's got

1122
00:54:33,093 --> 00:54:35,613
Speaker 4: a wire eything. You want to save the little wee ones?

1123
00:54:35,613 --> 00:54:38,812
Speaker 4: Are they just in their nest? He's doing a beer.

1124
00:54:38,933 --> 00:54:42,013
Speaker 4: So basically, yeah, look after your pets. And if they

1125
00:54:42,053 --> 00:54:45,573
Speaker 4: are feral, it's a feral cattle dog. Sorry to say,

1126
00:54:45,653 --> 00:54:48,893
Speaker 4: Like you've got you've got free range chickens and out

1127
00:54:48,893 --> 00:54:51,133
Speaker 4: there on your farm. You don't want them hanging around here?

1128
00:54:52,093 --> 00:54:55,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, sorikins, you know, if the fear get rid of them,

1129
00:54:56,053 --> 00:54:57,893
Speaker 2: kill them all Okay, So many people ask for my

1130
00:54:58,493 --> 00:55:01,172
Speaker 2: attempt to euthen as a cat. All right, very quick

1131
00:55:01,213 --> 00:55:03,933
Speaker 2: with that, okay, Okay. Driving along the suburban road in

1132
00:55:03,973 --> 00:55:06,133
Speaker 2: Aukland one day when I come across this cat and

1133
00:55:06,213 --> 00:55:08,973
Speaker 2: it's been hit by another car and it's poor phone

1134
00:55:09,013 --> 00:55:12,212
Speaker 2: and its eyes hanging out, and so I pull over

1135
00:55:12,333 --> 00:55:14,413
Speaker 2: and it's a horrible scene and I'm like, what do

1136
00:55:14,493 --> 00:55:17,453
Speaker 2: I do with this poor cat? It's in pain, terrible.

1137
00:55:17,773 --> 00:55:19,613
Speaker 2: So I get out of the car and I stand

1138
00:55:19,653 --> 00:55:20,853
Speaker 2: in front of it and I'm thinking what to do.

1139
00:55:21,013 --> 00:55:23,773
Speaker 2: And then within about thirty seconds is about three or

1140
00:55:23,773 --> 00:55:26,733
Speaker 2: four other guys standing around me. So other people have

1141
00:55:26,813 --> 00:55:28,373
Speaker 2: pulled over, and a guy, a couple of guys in

1142
00:55:28,413 --> 00:55:30,773
Speaker 2: their garden have come out and we're standing in a

1143
00:55:30,853 --> 00:55:32,813
Speaker 2: circle and going, oh, what are we going to do?

1144
00:55:33,413 --> 00:55:36,653
Speaker 2: And there's a bit of there's a bit of a decision.

1145
00:55:37,453 --> 00:55:40,053
Speaker 2: And then one of the guys, Matt, who knew me

1146
00:55:40,093 --> 00:55:43,013
Speaker 2: from my various broadcasting, said, handed me a shovel and

1147
00:55:43,093 --> 00:55:48,493
Speaker 2: said euthanase it. And I was like me, yeah, you

1148
00:55:48,613 --> 00:55:50,853
Speaker 2: the shovel. He said, I don't know. He said euthanise it.

1149
00:55:51,893 --> 00:55:55,213
Speaker 2: And so I went, okay, I guess I should euthanize it.

1150
00:55:56,333 --> 00:55:58,973
Speaker 2: And so I picked up the shovel and I tried

1151
00:55:59,013 --> 00:56:01,213
Speaker 2: to take the cat's head off with the shovel.

1152
00:56:01,613 --> 00:56:01,853
Speaker 15: Okay.

1153
00:56:02,493 --> 00:56:05,373
Speaker 2: But so I came down on the cat's head with

1154
00:56:05,493 --> 00:56:09,093
Speaker 2: the shovel, and the cat jumped up and ran away

1155
00:56:09,693 --> 00:56:13,373
Speaker 2: and under a and under a car.

1156
00:56:13,973 --> 00:56:14,293
Speaker 3: Okay.

1157
00:56:14,533 --> 00:56:16,333
Speaker 2: And then and I was like, oh, okay, well this

1158
00:56:16,493 --> 00:56:20,773
Speaker 2: isn't great. This has gone terribly And so then a

1159
00:56:20,853 --> 00:56:23,773
Speaker 2: friend of mine pulled up and she goes, Matt, you're moron.

1160
00:56:23,893 --> 00:56:26,252
Speaker 2: Take it to a vet. There's a vit one hundred

1161
00:56:26,253 --> 00:56:29,053
Speaker 2: and fifty meters away. Take it to a vet. And

1162
00:56:29,213 --> 00:56:31,413
Speaker 2: so I was like, oh, okay, that says she's better

1163
00:56:31,453 --> 00:56:32,813
Speaker 2: than trying to youth to naize it with a shovel.

1164
00:56:32,973 --> 00:56:35,093
Speaker 3: To be fair, it was the guy with the shovel salt.

1165
00:56:35,213 --> 00:56:37,453
Speaker 3: He handed you the weapon and says, right, do the

1166
00:56:37,533 --> 00:56:37,853
Speaker 3: right thing.

1167
00:56:37,933 --> 00:56:39,173
Speaker 2: It was kind of a would you jump in the

1168
00:56:39,253 --> 00:56:41,053
Speaker 2: lake just because someone told you to a situation. But

1169
00:56:41,093 --> 00:56:42,773
Speaker 2: I was panicked. I was I was full of empathy

1170
00:56:42,853 --> 00:56:45,373
Speaker 2: for this poor cat. So anyway, I take it to

1171
00:56:45,413 --> 00:56:48,093
Speaker 2: the vet and I hand it over and then and

1172
00:56:48,133 --> 00:56:50,172
Speaker 2: then the person cut the vet comes out about ten

1173
00:56:50,213 --> 00:56:52,893
Speaker 2: minutes later and says to me, sorry, we're not going

1174
00:56:52,973 --> 00:56:54,173
Speaker 2: to be able to save your cat. We're going to

1175
00:56:54,213 --> 00:56:54,773
Speaker 2: have to put it down.

1176
00:56:56,373 --> 00:56:58,013
Speaker 3: So that what a beautiful thing from the vet. But

1177
00:56:58,093 --> 00:57:00,813
Speaker 3: you'll be thinking, thank you, thank you, thank you.

1178
00:57:01,453 --> 00:57:03,453
Speaker 2: So we got we got the cat put put down.

1179
00:57:03,613 --> 00:57:05,533
Speaker 3: Well you did the right thing, mate, I mean, that's

1180
00:57:05,573 --> 00:57:07,772
Speaker 3: a hell of an experience to be put into. Yeah,

1181
00:57:07,853 --> 00:57:08,733
Speaker 3: but you did the right thing.

1182
00:57:08,933 --> 00:57:09,093
Speaker 12: Well.

1183
00:57:09,333 --> 00:57:11,613
Speaker 2: The lesson for that is, a cat's head does not

1184
00:57:11,733 --> 00:57:13,813
Speaker 2: come off easily with a shovel. Okay it doesn't. I

1185
00:57:13,893 --> 00:57:16,213
Speaker 2: just thought it would just nip off and the cat

1186
00:57:16,253 --> 00:57:17,893
Speaker 2: would be out of its misery. But no, the cat

1187
00:57:17,973 --> 00:57:20,173
Speaker 2: jumped up and had a last leaf lease of life.

1188
00:57:20,213 --> 00:57:21,453
Speaker 2: But then it got put down.

1189
00:57:21,613 --> 00:57:22,413
Speaker 3: Lesson learns, I hope.

1190
00:57:22,453 --> 00:57:24,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, you pay for that though, So I was the

1191
00:57:25,013 --> 00:57:26,733
Speaker 2: real loser in this whole situation.

1192
00:57:27,173 --> 00:57:28,093
Speaker 3: WEPSA for today.

1193
00:57:28,293 --> 00:57:31,733
Speaker 2: All right then, okay, then I've shared that story, So

1194
00:57:31,973 --> 00:57:33,933
Speaker 2: let's finish this topic up. It's been a great chat

1195
00:57:34,013 --> 00:57:37,013
Speaker 2: over the last week. While New Zealand's feral cat problem

1196
00:57:37,093 --> 00:57:39,893
Speaker 2: isn't going anywhere, is it, Tyler? No, certainly, And it's

1197
00:57:39,933 --> 00:57:41,613
Speaker 2: not going to go anywhere until we treat them like

1198
00:57:41,653 --> 00:57:45,373
Speaker 2: any other pets pests. We need to classify them, properly,

1199
00:57:45,533 --> 00:57:49,893
Speaker 2: control them at scale, and stop topping up the wild population,

1200
00:57:50,013 --> 00:57:52,293
Speaker 2: because as everyone keeps texting in, it's the feral humans

1201
00:57:52,333 --> 00:57:55,173
Speaker 2: that keep dropping the cats off the in the wilderness

1202
00:57:55,213 --> 00:57:57,333
Speaker 2: that is the problem, isn't it. It is, But the

1203
00:57:57,373 --> 00:58:00,613
Speaker 2: bigger problem is that they're cute, and we've got a

1204
00:58:00,653 --> 00:58:03,133
Speaker 2: bit of a soft spot for the acute little whiskers

1205
00:58:03,173 --> 00:58:06,013
Speaker 2: and stuff. So it keeps getting in the way of

1206
00:58:06,093 --> 00:58:09,613
Speaker 2: us doing the right thing around feral cats because we've

1207
00:58:09,653 --> 00:58:11,933
Speaker 2: got the lovely domestic cats. So I imagine this is

1208
00:58:11,973 --> 00:58:13,773
Speaker 2: a problem. It's going to continue on for some time.

1209
00:58:13,893 --> 00:58:16,213
Speaker 3: We haven't solved it here today, unfortunately, but thank you

1210
00:58:16,413 --> 00:58:18,573
Speaker 3: very much to everyone who called in texts coming up

1211
00:58:18,613 --> 00:58:21,653
Speaker 3: after the headlines with Raylene want to talk about empty nesters.

1212
00:58:21,733 --> 00:58:23,693
Speaker 3: Great story in the Herold about a woman who's become

1213
00:58:23,733 --> 00:58:26,213
Speaker 3: an empty nester and it hasn't gone that well for her.

1214
00:58:26,293 --> 00:58:27,733
Speaker 3: But we want to hear from you. How did you

1215
00:58:27,813 --> 00:58:29,533
Speaker 3: adjust the empty nester life.

1216
00:58:31,853 --> 00:58:33,933
Speaker 2: This Texas says Matt, You're damn lucky that it didn't

1217
00:58:33,933 --> 00:58:36,093
Speaker 2: come out and say that the cat needs intensive care

1218
00:58:36,133 --> 00:58:38,373
Speaker 2: and it's going to be in hospital for weeks and

1219
00:58:38,453 --> 00:58:40,253
Speaker 2: the final bill is going to be ten thousand dollars.

1220
00:58:40,453 --> 00:58:42,133
Speaker 3: You would have screwed there. They would have paid it.

1221
00:58:42,453 --> 00:58:43,133
Speaker 3: You would have paid it.

1222
00:58:43,333 --> 00:58:45,333
Speaker 2: That's a good point. Yeah, But then I had to

1223
00:58:45,333 --> 00:58:48,373
Speaker 2: put posters around saying with the cat, saying because it

1224
00:58:48,453 --> 00:58:50,933
Speaker 2: was someone's cat obviously man. So I needed to talk

1225
00:58:51,013 --> 00:58:53,213
Speaker 2: to the people whose cat it was and said what happened. Yes,

1226
00:58:53,453 --> 00:58:55,653
Speaker 2: it was rough, traumatic. It was an emotional time for me.

1227
00:58:55,813 --> 00:58:57,213
Speaker 3: Headlines with Raylene coming.

1228
00:58:57,093 --> 00:59:02,813
Speaker 15: Up, Jew's talk said, be headlines with blue bubble taxis

1229
00:59:03,053 --> 00:59:07,093
Speaker 15: it's no trouble with a blue bubble. Christ Church's Craycroft

1230
00:59:07,333 --> 00:59:10,853
Speaker 15: Reserve has been as the preferred site for the nineteen

1231
00:59:10,933 --> 00:59:15,653
Speaker 15: seventy nine mount Erebus air crash disaster. Memorial State Highway

1232
00:59:15,733 --> 00:59:18,973
Speaker 15: one between Kaikoda and Blenheim is likely to be closed

1233
00:59:19,053 --> 00:59:23,013
Speaker 15: for several hours after a fatal motorcycle crash. One person

1234
00:59:23,133 --> 00:59:26,893
Speaker 15: died in the crash at Waypapa Bay. A woman's died

1235
00:59:27,013 --> 00:59:30,213
Speaker 15: and a man is critically injured in Australia, both thought

1236
00:59:30,253 --> 00:59:32,733
Speaker 15: to be in their twenties. After a shark attack off

1237
00:59:32,773 --> 00:59:37,013
Speaker 15: the New South Wales coast early today, firefighters in Hong

1238
00:59:37,093 --> 00:59:40,373
Speaker 15: Kong say fires at a massive apartment complex that have

1239
00:59:40,493 --> 00:59:43,773
Speaker 15: killed at least forty four, with hundreds not accounted for,

1240
00:59:44,213 --> 00:59:48,013
Speaker 15: will take all day to fully contain. Three construction company

1241
00:59:48,093 --> 00:59:52,493
Speaker 15: executives have been arrested on suspicion of manslaughter. The Commerce

1242
00:59:52,533 --> 00:59:56,773
Speaker 15: Commission has published its draft regulatory framework for gas pipelines

1243
00:59:57,133 --> 01:00:00,493
Speaker 15: to limit how much companies can charge consumers and sets

1244
01:00:00,573 --> 01:00:04,973
Speaker 15: minimum service standards. The average household bell could increase about

1245
01:00:05,013 --> 01:00:09,773
Speaker 15: two dollars a month from October next year. Cancer battling

1246
01:00:09,893 --> 01:00:13,973
Speaker 15: manager among workers left waiting for pay after Ponsonby beauty

1247
01:00:14,013 --> 01:00:18,013
Speaker 15: clinic put into liquidation. Find out more at enzid Herald Premium.

1248
01:00:18,373 --> 01:00:20,293
Speaker 15: Back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

1249
01:00:20,013 --> 01:00:22,373
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, raling just before we get onto

1250
01:00:22,413 --> 01:00:24,933
Speaker 3: the topic of empty nesters, a ticks here, which I

1251
01:00:24,973 --> 01:00:27,773
Speaker 3: think makes a fair point. Matt. Any chance that you

1252
01:00:28,213 --> 01:00:29,813
Speaker 3: hit the cat's collar, yeah.

1253
01:00:29,693 --> 01:00:32,253
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about that now. And when I tried to

1254
01:00:32,293 --> 01:00:34,973
Speaker 2: euthanize this cat with a shovel, So this guy was

1255
01:00:35,053 --> 01:00:37,173
Speaker 2: just a bunch of muppets of us standing around this

1256
01:00:37,253 --> 01:00:39,493
Speaker 2: cat not knowing what to do, a bunch of guys

1257
01:00:39,533 --> 01:00:41,333
Speaker 2: doing gardening, a couple of us that are pulled over.

1258
01:00:41,693 --> 01:00:44,413
Speaker 3: But pure empathy. You needed to solve this cat's problem.

1259
01:00:44,613 --> 01:00:45,813
Speaker 2: The cat was lying on the road with his eye

1260
01:00:45,853 --> 01:00:48,373
Speaker 2: hanging out. It was horrible. Yeah, it was terrible. But

1261
01:00:48,573 --> 01:00:50,613
Speaker 2: once I tried to take its head off with the shovel,

1262
01:00:50,693 --> 01:00:53,253
Speaker 2: the guy that gave me the shovel, he said, I

1263
01:00:53,293 --> 01:00:55,253
Speaker 2: didn't mean I mean hat it with it. So he

1264
01:00:55,253 --> 01:00:57,693
Speaker 2: had meant that I would hit its head with the

1265
01:00:57,773 --> 01:01:00,573
Speaker 2: shovel flat, not trying and nip its neck off.

1266
01:01:00,773 --> 01:01:01,973
Speaker 3: Why didn't he do it himself?

1267
01:01:02,093 --> 01:01:03,333
Speaker 2: So that's maybe why I hit the collar.

1268
01:01:03,413 --> 01:01:04,933
Speaker 3: It all started with that guy headed you to the

1269
01:01:04,973 --> 01:01:07,173
Speaker 3: shovel one it was his shovel, you do it, and

1270
01:01:07,253 --> 01:01:09,613
Speaker 3: said no, not that way. Well come on, mate, you

1271
01:01:09,733 --> 01:01:11,253
Speaker 3: put me in a difficult position here.

1272
01:01:11,813 --> 01:01:13,733
Speaker 2: It was horrible. And then as I said, the cat

1273
01:01:13,853 --> 01:01:16,253
Speaker 2: jumps up runs off under the car, and I'm like, oh, no,

1274
01:01:16,293 --> 01:01:17,853
Speaker 2: it was the cat. Fine, I mean obviously it's I

1275
01:01:17,973 --> 01:01:19,333
Speaker 2: was out. I'll show a picture. I took a picture

1276
01:01:19,373 --> 01:01:21,533
Speaker 2: of it, but this was quite a few years ago.

1277
01:01:21,973 --> 01:01:24,093
Speaker 2: But yeah. The then next thing, and I'm at the

1278
01:01:24,173 --> 01:01:27,013
Speaker 2: vet and being told by a very sad vet that

1279
01:01:27,013 --> 01:01:28,213
Speaker 2: they're going to have to put my cat down.

1280
01:01:30,253 --> 01:01:30,573
Speaker 5: My cat.

1281
01:01:30,853 --> 01:01:33,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, right, let's get onto this one. This is

1282
01:01:33,613 --> 01:01:34,933
Speaker 3: a good story. So we want to have a chat

1283
01:01:34,973 --> 01:01:37,373
Speaker 3: about empty nesters. But a story in the Herald where

1284
01:01:37,533 --> 01:01:39,973
Speaker 3: a woman has written in to ask for advice. She's

1285
01:01:40,013 --> 01:01:42,253
Speaker 3: recently become an empty nester, and here's just a little

1286
01:01:42,253 --> 01:01:44,533
Speaker 3: bit of it. So she loves many things about the

1287
01:01:44,613 --> 01:01:47,213
Speaker 3: kids finally moving out, so she's got peace and quiet,

1288
01:01:47,493 --> 01:01:50,333
Speaker 3: she's got a full fridge and the karma routines. But

1289
01:01:50,453 --> 01:01:53,533
Speaker 3: the one massive downside that she's found, and she didn't

1290
01:01:53,613 --> 01:01:56,253
Speaker 3: expect it, is now that it's just her and her husband,

1291
01:01:56,333 --> 01:01:59,493
Speaker 3: she realizes she doesn't actually enjoy being around her husband

1292
01:01:59,573 --> 01:02:00,693
Speaker 3: as much as she used to.

1293
01:02:01,013 --> 01:02:02,453
Speaker 2: It's sad, very sad.

1294
01:02:03,093 --> 01:02:03,293
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1295
01:02:03,333 --> 01:02:05,533
Speaker 2: So we were sort of discussing this briefly before, but

1296
01:02:06,373 --> 01:02:09,573
Speaker 2: the way it happens as you meet someone, you fall

1297
01:02:09,653 --> 01:02:13,013
Speaker 2: in love, you spend time together. You have this whole

1298
01:02:13,373 --> 01:02:15,773
Speaker 2: romantic period of your life when you're quite young and

1299
01:02:15,853 --> 01:02:18,373
Speaker 2: you've got different priorities. Next thing you know, you have kids.

1300
01:02:18,413 --> 01:02:20,613
Speaker 2: You get in the trenches for several years and the

1301
01:02:20,653 --> 01:02:23,173
Speaker 2: whole things around just getting through bringing up the kids,

1302
01:02:23,253 --> 01:02:26,973
Speaker 2: and that family kids move out. You suddenly look around

1303
01:02:26,973 --> 01:02:29,893
Speaker 2: and see your partner and you're like, who's this person

1304
01:02:30,413 --> 01:02:32,493
Speaker 2: without the kids? We sort of don't really have anything

1305
01:02:32,813 --> 01:02:35,133
Speaker 2: much in common and we've changed. And you're like, now

1306
01:02:35,173 --> 01:02:36,293
Speaker 2: there's just the two of us in the house, and

1307
01:02:36,293 --> 01:02:39,533
Speaker 2: I don't really like that person. Yeah, it happens a lot.

1308
01:02:39,733 --> 01:02:42,093
Speaker 3: It'd be a big transition because if your life revolves

1309
01:02:42,133 --> 01:02:44,693
Speaker 3: around raising children and that comfort and a bit of

1310
01:02:44,773 --> 01:02:47,333
Speaker 3: chaos of having a very busy household, you're quite right.

1311
01:02:47,413 --> 01:02:49,213
Speaker 3: Then you've got to look each other and think, Okay,

1312
01:02:49,333 --> 01:02:50,893
Speaker 3: well now we're going to join a club or something.

1313
01:02:51,013 --> 01:02:52,013
Speaker 2: Well everyone knows that.

1314
01:02:53,253 --> 01:02:53,493
Speaker 17: You know.

1315
01:02:53,653 --> 01:02:56,173
Speaker 2: When you have kids and then you spend time out

1316
01:02:56,253 --> 01:02:58,493
Speaker 2: with your partner, all you do is talk about the kids.

1317
01:02:58,533 --> 01:03:00,173
Speaker 2: You go, oh, we need to get a special night out,

1318
01:03:00,373 --> 01:03:02,653
Speaker 2: so get a babysitter. You go out and then you

1319
01:03:02,733 --> 01:03:05,133
Speaker 2: sit a restaurant talking about the kids. It happens all

1320
01:03:05,173 --> 01:03:07,573
Speaker 2: the time, and so when the kid's gone, you don't

1321
01:03:07,573 --> 01:03:09,613
Speaker 2: have anything to talk about it. Yeah, you know, it's

1322
01:03:09,773 --> 01:03:12,693
Speaker 2: it's it's a big thing. But just generally the empty

1323
01:03:12,733 --> 01:03:17,093
Speaker 2: nest situation is, as you know, it's a big change

1324
01:03:17,133 --> 01:03:18,933
Speaker 2: in your life. And I think one of the biggest

1325
01:03:18,973 --> 01:03:21,173
Speaker 2: changes is when do you decide that your kid's bedroom

1326
01:03:21,173 --> 01:03:24,293
Speaker 2: isn't their kids bedroom anymore and it's now a computer nook.

1327
01:03:25,013 --> 01:03:27,013
Speaker 2: I mean that's that's an early two thousands.

1328
01:03:26,693 --> 01:03:30,853
Speaker 3: Expressions like that computer it's just spare room. Yeah, man, cave,

1329
01:03:30,973 --> 01:03:32,853
Speaker 3: maybe you want to turn it into a we music room,

1330
01:03:32,933 --> 01:03:33,493
Speaker 3: reading room.

1331
01:03:33,893 --> 01:03:36,093
Speaker 2: Yeah. So you know, how do you how do you

1332
01:03:36,173 --> 01:03:39,973
Speaker 2: transition out of your kids kids moving out and just start,

1333
01:03:40,773 --> 01:03:42,453
Speaker 2: you know, a new life in the in the house.

1334
01:03:42,933 --> 01:03:45,093
Speaker 3: Oh wait, one hundred eighty ten eighty is that under call?

1335
01:03:45,213 --> 01:03:48,173
Speaker 3: How did you find the adjustment to becoming empty nesters?

1336
01:03:48,333 --> 01:03:52,253
Speaker 3: And to Matt's question, when do you decide to change

1337
01:03:52,293 --> 01:03:54,493
Speaker 3: their rooms so they no longer your children's room anymore,

1338
01:03:54,693 --> 01:03:56,453
Speaker 3: they're now the spare room or as you said, the

1339
01:03:56,493 --> 01:03:57,133
Speaker 3: computer nook.

1340
01:03:57,413 --> 01:04:00,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got to be a timeframe. There's a nostalgia

1341
01:04:00,733 --> 01:04:02,333
Speaker 2: to it, isn't that? Because you know, I've got a

1342
01:04:02,413 --> 01:04:06,013
Speaker 2: son who's just moved out to go to university. Turns

1343
01:04:06,053 --> 01:04:09,453
Speaker 2: out universities doesn't go very long. University is a very

1344
01:04:09,493 --> 01:04:13,093
Speaker 2: small bart of the year. Yeah, so he's moving back

1345
01:04:13,213 --> 01:04:15,173
Speaker 2: and you go, well, so do I just keep a

1346
01:04:15,493 --> 01:04:18,173
Speaker 2: fully operational room for you for whenever you want to

1347
01:04:18,213 --> 01:04:21,053
Speaker 2: move back in. The answer when it's me is yes, yeah,

1348
01:04:21,093 --> 01:04:22,653
Speaker 2: because you know I'm keen from to be around as

1349
01:04:22,733 --> 01:04:24,813
Speaker 2: much as he possibly can, because you know, I'm a

1350
01:04:24,893 --> 01:04:25,653
Speaker 2: sentimental type.

1351
01:04:25,733 --> 01:04:27,653
Speaker 3: It was an adjustment for you becoming an empty nester,

1352
01:04:27,813 --> 01:04:29,413
Speaker 3: wasn't it. And that was that was one job.

1353
01:04:29,493 --> 01:04:30,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, I still got the other one there.

1354
01:04:30,573 --> 01:04:32,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, see a half empty nesting.

1355
01:04:32,213 --> 01:04:34,093
Speaker 2: But all of a sudden you realize that, you know,

1356
01:04:34,173 --> 01:04:35,933
Speaker 2: as your kids are teenagers as well, that you've been

1357
01:04:36,013 --> 01:04:39,213
Speaker 2: living with a couple of chaos agents in your house. Yeah,

1358
01:04:40,253 --> 01:04:41,773
Speaker 2: so is it just a bit quiet when your kids

1359
01:04:41,853 --> 01:04:43,933
Speaker 2: move out? You know, be a hard adjustment? What's what's

1360
01:04:43,973 --> 01:04:46,173
Speaker 2: the transition? And do you look around and how do

1361
01:04:46,253 --> 01:04:51,213
Speaker 2: you how do you repatch your relationship with the other

1362
01:04:51,293 --> 01:04:53,453
Speaker 2: person in your life now that it's not centered around

1363
01:04:54,173 --> 01:04:55,613
Speaker 2: the grind of bringing up kids.

1364
01:04:55,693 --> 01:04:57,933
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred the grind and the joy of bringing

1365
01:04:57,973 --> 01:05:00,133
Speaker 3: up kids, and nically said, oh, one hundred eighty ten

1366
01:05:00,173 --> 01:05:02,413
Speaker 3: eighty is that number of cool? Nine two nine two

1367
01:05:02,613 --> 01:05:05,453
Speaker 3: is the text number that adjustment to empty nest to life.

1368
01:05:05,613 --> 01:05:06,853
Speaker 3: Love to hear how you did it?

1369
01:05:07,373 --> 01:05:09,893
Speaker 2: You are sick and you discuss me? How dare you

1370
01:05:09,973 --> 01:05:12,213
Speaker 2: tell that cat's story? There might have been children listening

1371
01:05:12,253 --> 01:05:14,693
Speaker 2: to that. That's from Judy. Well, kids need to know,

1372
01:05:15,333 --> 01:05:16,053
Speaker 2: kids need to know.

1373
01:05:16,093 --> 01:05:17,773
Speaker 3: That it happens to us all in some stage.

1374
01:05:17,853 --> 01:05:18,213
Speaker 2: That's right.

1375
01:05:18,333 --> 01:05:19,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a hard lesson of life.

1376
01:05:19,693 --> 01:05:21,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think that we would have helped some

1377
01:05:21,693 --> 01:05:24,413
Speaker 2: kids hearing that. Ethan Asians THO twenty to three back

1378
01:05:24,453 --> 01:05:26,213
Speaker 2: in a month, a fresh.

1379
01:05:26,053 --> 01:05:30,013
Speaker 1: Take on talkback. It's Matt Heathan Taylor Adams. Afternoons, have

1380
01:05:30,213 --> 01:05:33,213
Speaker 1: your say on eight hundred eighty ten eighty youth talks.

1381
01:05:33,253 --> 01:05:36,453
Speaker 3: They'd be very good, afternoon. She it is seventeen to

1382
01:05:36,573 --> 01:05:37,413
Speaker 3: two three.

1383
01:05:37,693 --> 01:05:39,853
Speaker 2: Horrible picture, wasn't it? It was a horrible picture of

1384
01:05:39,933 --> 01:05:41,493
Speaker 2: that cat. And now you see why I had to

1385
01:05:41,693 --> 01:05:43,053
Speaker 2: try and euthanase it with a shovel.

1386
01:05:43,333 --> 01:05:44,693
Speaker 3: You did the right thing, though, mate, You know you

1387
01:05:44,733 --> 01:05:46,173
Speaker 3: can just leave it there, but yeah, that was out

1388
01:05:46,173 --> 01:05:48,373
Speaker 3: of the photo. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty. We're

1389
01:05:48,373 --> 01:05:52,093
Speaker 3: talking about adjusting to empty nest a life after a

1390
01:05:52,213 --> 01:05:54,413
Speaker 3: story in the Herald where a woman who's become an

1391
01:05:54,413 --> 01:05:56,573
Speaker 3: empty nester found that once the kids were gone, she

1392
01:05:56,613 --> 01:05:59,413
Speaker 3: didn't really like her husband nine two ninety two is

1393
01:05:59,533 --> 01:06:00,653
Speaker 3: the text as well.

1394
01:06:01,653 --> 01:06:05,133
Speaker 2: I enjoyed every minute of bringing up my kids, are

1395
01:06:05,173 --> 01:06:08,453
Speaker 2: now enjoying every minute assisting bringing up the grandkids. Go

1396
01:06:08,613 --> 01:06:11,813
Speaker 2: Roys Brandau.

1397
01:06:11,133 --> 01:06:13,493
Speaker 3: Von or Yvonne. Sorry, how are you right?

1398
01:06:14,053 --> 01:06:14,613
Speaker 17: I'm fine.

1399
01:06:15,333 --> 01:06:19,373
Speaker 18: I feel sorry for that lady. You meet somebody, you

1400
01:06:19,533 --> 01:06:21,893
Speaker 18: fall in love, you marry, you have a great time.

1401
01:06:22,253 --> 01:06:25,093
Speaker 18: You have children, and to me, children are I think

1402
01:06:25,133 --> 01:06:27,413
Speaker 18: on a cake. You can have a fruitcake without icing.

1403
01:06:28,013 --> 01:06:28,373
Speaker 19: And when the.

1404
01:06:28,413 --> 01:06:30,813
Speaker 18: Children left home, we got back to doing what we

1405
01:06:30,893 --> 01:06:33,333
Speaker 18: did before they came on to see and at my

1406
01:06:33,493 --> 01:06:37,013
Speaker 18: priority and I believe this was we put our spars first.

1407
01:06:37,213 --> 01:06:40,013
Speaker 18: The children came second. We gave them, we said we

1408
01:06:40,093 --> 01:06:42,453
Speaker 18: felt they needed, We did what the best we could

1409
01:06:42,573 --> 01:06:45,173
Speaker 18: in our terms of bringing them up. But we never

1410
01:06:45,253 --> 01:06:48,373
Speaker 18: lost sight of each other. And to the point, every year,

1411
01:06:48,973 --> 01:06:50,973
Speaker 18: without side, he took me away for at least a

1412
01:06:51,053 --> 01:06:52,773
Speaker 18: long weekend without.

1413
01:06:52,493 --> 01:06:56,493
Speaker 12: The children nice and preserved our marriage.

1414
01:06:56,573 --> 01:07:00,133
Speaker 18: And five years ago I lost him. I'm now eighty,

1415
01:07:00,373 --> 01:07:01,973
Speaker 18: so I had them for sixty years.

1416
01:07:02,573 --> 01:07:06,373
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to hear that, but Jack, there was a good, beautiful,

1417
01:07:06,413 --> 01:07:08,973
Speaker 2: happy time that you guys had together. When the kids

1418
01:07:09,853 --> 01:07:12,013
Speaker 2: moved out, Did you keep their rooms for them?

1419
01:07:13,293 --> 01:07:16,733
Speaker 18: No, they got they left home. They got married, right, and.

1420
01:07:16,813 --> 01:07:18,493
Speaker 2: So that and that once once they left home, that

1421
01:07:18,613 --> 01:07:20,453
Speaker 2: was that they couldn't come back because they come back

1422
01:07:20,493 --> 01:07:21,973
Speaker 2: and because I mean when I first moved home, I

1423
01:07:22,013 --> 01:07:23,933
Speaker 2: was always going back and grabbing cans of baked beans

1424
01:07:24,013 --> 01:07:27,053
Speaker 2: to eat and such with it, because they're a period.

1425
01:07:26,853 --> 01:07:30,173
Speaker 18: Of in the early days, I had a boss that

1426
01:07:30,333 --> 01:07:33,173
Speaker 18: taught me the children are not allowed to treat you

1427
01:07:33,333 --> 01:07:36,013
Speaker 18: like a house keeper and treat your home and be

1428
01:07:36,053 --> 01:07:38,733
Speaker 18: at home like a hotel. So when they leave home,

1429
01:07:38,933 --> 01:07:41,813
Speaker 18: unless they left the city that they were living in,

1430
01:07:42,213 --> 01:07:45,813
Speaker 18: then they could not come back willingly. If they changed

1431
01:07:45,853 --> 01:07:49,413
Speaker 18: cities and superstens to change, yes they could come back.

1432
01:07:49,693 --> 01:07:51,413
Speaker 18: But both my children married.

1433
01:07:51,213 --> 01:07:51,893
Speaker 12: From their home.

1434
01:07:53,373 --> 01:07:55,333
Speaker 3: I think do you think that's probably changed a bit

1435
01:07:55,733 --> 01:07:58,493
Speaker 3: in recent times, Yvonne. There you hear about the boomerang

1436
01:07:58,653 --> 01:08:01,813
Speaker 3: kids and they might move out, but they come back

1437
01:08:01,853 --> 01:08:04,413
Speaker 3: for a little bit of time, or they still you know,

1438
01:08:04,453 --> 01:08:07,213
Speaker 3: it's the apron strings aren't cut quite as cleanly. They

1439
01:08:07,293 --> 01:08:09,573
Speaker 3: might drop the laundry off. Do you see any problem

1440
01:08:09,613 --> 01:08:09,893
Speaker 3: with them?

1441
01:08:11,413 --> 01:08:13,653
Speaker 4: Yes, there's no way I'm doing my kids laundry.

1442
01:08:14,893 --> 01:08:19,253
Speaker 18: Me on, if you bring them up to the self

1443
01:08:19,293 --> 01:08:22,173
Speaker 18: sufficient enough, they shouldn't be coming back with their laundry.

1444
01:08:23,013 --> 01:08:25,532
Speaker 2: Yes, right, So you know, the best parents bring their

1445
01:08:25,612 --> 01:08:27,532
Speaker 2: kids up to be competent. So you send them out

1446
01:08:27,532 --> 01:08:30,372
Speaker 2: into the world, and by the time they leave home y.

1447
01:08:33,812 --> 01:08:35,053
Speaker 18: House, I was their mother.

1448
01:08:35,372 --> 01:08:39,333
Speaker 3: Clearly you love your dear husband, and that's wonderful, but well,

1449
01:08:39,452 --> 01:08:42,213
Speaker 3: I mean adjustment. There must have been a bit of

1450
01:08:42,253 --> 01:08:45,933
Speaker 3: adjustment there to going from a big, busy, loud household

1451
01:08:46,013 --> 01:08:48,333
Speaker 3: with kids and then it's just you and your husband.

1452
01:08:48,412 --> 01:08:50,812
Speaker 3: Did you have to think about, you know, new hobbies

1453
01:08:50,853 --> 01:08:52,013
Speaker 3: you were going to do? What did you already have

1454
01:08:52,093 --> 01:08:52,612
Speaker 3: that sort.

1455
01:08:52,412 --> 01:08:56,452
Speaker 18: Of help all the way through? We had shared interests

1456
01:08:56,572 --> 01:09:00,293
Speaker 18: and we had individual interests, and I maintained those all

1457
01:09:00,333 --> 01:09:02,973
Speaker 18: the way through. Some of them my children shared with

1458
01:09:03,133 --> 01:09:04,412
Speaker 18: us or our children.

1459
01:09:04,732 --> 01:09:05,493
Speaker 8: Was ring.

1460
01:09:07,572 --> 01:09:10,612
Speaker 18: My daughter and enjoyed going to pet shows with me.

1461
01:09:10,732 --> 01:09:13,772
Speaker 18: I was never and still I am, a breeder of

1462
01:09:13,853 --> 01:09:16,692
Speaker 18: pets and enjoyed going to test shows. I like going

1463
01:09:16,772 --> 01:09:19,093
Speaker 18: with my husband and he goes fishing. I could certain

1464
01:09:19,133 --> 01:09:21,492
Speaker 18: read a book while he's been fished. So he got

1465
01:09:21,612 --> 01:09:24,093
Speaker 18: piece of flights and me yet bring an idios.

1466
01:09:26,572 --> 01:09:26,772
Speaker 5: To me.

1467
01:09:27,013 --> 01:09:28,412
Speaker 12: Marriage is life and broidery.

1468
01:09:28,492 --> 01:09:32,092
Speaker 18: It's something you work at. You come together, you go apart,

1469
01:09:32,213 --> 01:09:32,932
Speaker 18: you come together.

1470
01:09:34,452 --> 01:09:36,933
Speaker 3: It's wonderful. I mean it sounds like you know you

1471
01:09:37,013 --> 01:09:39,093
Speaker 3: didn't need a plan because you already had it sorted out.

1472
01:09:39,213 --> 01:09:41,933
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean it is.

1473
01:09:42,853 --> 01:09:45,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, it's a wonderful thing to hear. Yvonne, thank

1474
01:09:45,732 --> 01:09:47,372
Speaker 3: you there are very much for giving us a call.

1475
01:09:47,372 --> 01:09:49,333
Speaker 3: O one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number

1476
01:09:49,372 --> 01:09:51,812
Speaker 3: to call? Henry? How are you mate?

1477
01:09:52,692 --> 01:09:52,852
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1478
01:09:52,933 --> 01:09:53,852
Speaker 5: Good, a good thank you.

1479
01:09:54,732 --> 01:09:54,932
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1480
01:09:55,133 --> 01:09:57,692
Speaker 5: I was just calling in regards to that lonely letter

1481
01:09:57,732 --> 01:10:01,412
Speaker 5: we just listen to. And I don't know, I always

1482
01:10:01,452 --> 01:10:03,452
Speaker 5: feel like my doors will be open for my children

1483
01:10:03,492 --> 01:10:05,973
Speaker 5: because you never know what to expect and anything can

1484
01:10:06,053 --> 01:10:08,732
Speaker 5: happen and they might need to come home. So I'll

1485
01:10:09,093 --> 01:10:11,053
Speaker 5: you know, I'll never close my doors to any of

1486
01:10:11,133 --> 01:10:11,972
Speaker 5: my kids.

1487
01:10:13,532 --> 01:10:16,532
Speaker 2: But do you leave you when you're say not close

1488
01:10:16,612 --> 01:10:18,412
Speaker 2: the doors, do you do you leave a room ready?

1489
01:10:18,452 --> 01:10:18,732
Speaker 5: For them.

1490
01:10:18,933 --> 01:10:20,892
Speaker 2: So depending on how many kids you got, is there

1491
01:10:21,053 --> 01:10:22,692
Speaker 2: just a place ready for them to come back with

1492
01:10:22,772 --> 01:10:23,293
Speaker 2: all their stuff?

1493
01:10:24,372 --> 01:10:27,093
Speaker 5: Oh, I got blow up beds and that that'll be

1494
01:10:27,173 --> 01:10:29,333
Speaker 5: suffice until we figure out which room they want to have.

1495
01:10:31,293 --> 01:10:31,932
Speaker 3: So you wouldn't.

1496
01:10:32,013 --> 01:10:34,452
Speaker 5: Yeah, I always believe to have yet to have at

1497
01:10:34,532 --> 01:10:37,213
Speaker 5: least a blow up bed or something just in case

1498
01:10:37,293 --> 01:10:40,012
Speaker 5: something you know, I don't expected happens. They lose a job,

1499
01:10:40,093 --> 01:10:42,932
Speaker 5: their partner have a falling out. Yeah.

1500
01:10:43,213 --> 01:10:45,053
Speaker 3: And I was a boomerang kid, you know, with mum.

1501
01:10:45,133 --> 01:10:47,812
Speaker 3: I was in and out after various jobs and living

1502
01:10:47,853 --> 01:10:50,532
Speaker 3: in different regions. So I was one of those kids

1503
01:10:50,572 --> 01:10:53,052
Speaker 3: that came back and Mum always had something was somewhere

1504
01:10:53,093 --> 01:10:54,133
Speaker 3: for me to sleep, even if it was.

1505
01:10:54,133 --> 01:10:54,652
Speaker 2: On the couch.

1506
01:10:54,973 --> 01:10:57,732
Speaker 3: But do you reckon you'd maintain their rooms for them?

1507
01:10:57,772 --> 01:11:00,772
Speaker 3: Once they say they left home at for university at eighteen,

1508
01:11:00,812 --> 01:11:02,973
Speaker 3: would you still keep their room ready to go, just

1509
01:11:03,013 --> 01:11:05,093
Speaker 3: as they had it for when they may decide to

1510
01:11:05,133 --> 01:11:05,452
Speaker 3: come back.

1511
01:11:06,612 --> 01:11:08,973
Speaker 5: No, No, but I would probably store the stuff in

1512
01:11:09,013 --> 01:11:11,412
Speaker 5: the garage so if they didn't decide to come back,

1513
01:11:11,452 --> 01:11:13,812
Speaker 5: then they can rearrange their room back to how it was.

1514
01:11:14,612 --> 01:11:18,813
Speaker 5: But no, definitely, that night that room would be changed.

1515
01:11:18,452 --> 01:11:21,572
Speaker 2: Over Henry, do you have a when the kids moved out?

1516
01:11:21,853 --> 01:11:25,532
Speaker 2: Were you still with your partner the mother of the children, Yes,

1517
01:11:26,013 --> 01:11:29,293
Speaker 2: and so how did your relationship How did your relationship

1518
01:11:29,492 --> 01:11:32,293
Speaker 2: change once the kids were gone? Did it back and

1519
01:11:32,492 --> 01:11:33,293
Speaker 2: pre kids sucks?

1520
01:11:33,532 --> 01:11:33,812
Speaker 7: What's that?

1521
01:11:34,253 --> 01:11:36,452
Speaker 5: No, we didn't. We turned into big sucks and we

1522
01:11:36,812 --> 01:11:40,093
Speaker 5: soaked that we didn't have our kids at home. And yeah,

1523
01:11:40,692 --> 01:11:43,333
Speaker 5: we found it quite hard when they left because it

1524
01:11:43,412 --> 01:11:43,892
Speaker 5: was quite.

1525
01:11:43,732 --> 01:11:46,652
Speaker 2: Boring and at least a hole, isn't it.

1526
01:11:46,772 --> 01:11:48,532
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it really does.

1527
01:11:48,732 --> 01:11:51,652
Speaker 2: And you sort of wonder what you did because before

1528
01:11:51,732 --> 01:11:55,772
Speaker 2: you have kids, you walk around thinking that you don't

1529
01:11:55,812 --> 01:11:58,652
Speaker 2: have any time to do things, and when you have kids,

1530
01:11:58,692 --> 01:12:00,532
Speaker 2: you go, what did I What did I do with

1531
01:12:00,652 --> 01:12:02,932
Speaker 2: my life? Because kids take up nearly all of your time.

1532
01:12:03,532 --> 01:12:05,372
Speaker 2: So I imagine when they go away again, you like

1533
01:12:05,452 --> 01:12:07,132
Speaker 2: suddenly got all this all this time.

1534
01:12:08,372 --> 01:12:09,893
Speaker 5: There's fits so much is good because then you know,

1535
01:12:09,973 --> 01:12:12,253
Speaker 5: we were able to focus more on our well, my oldbies.

1536
01:12:12,293 --> 01:12:15,412
Speaker 3: Anyway, it's a big part of you put purpose though,

1537
01:12:15,452 --> 01:12:17,213
Speaker 3: isn't it. I Mean, look, I'm not a parent at

1538
01:12:17,213 --> 01:12:19,013
Speaker 3: the moment, but I imagine your kids. You know, you

1539
01:12:19,133 --> 01:12:21,452
Speaker 3: talk about purpose in life when you've got kids in

1540
01:12:21,492 --> 01:12:24,933
Speaker 3: the household, that is arguably your sole purpose is to

1541
01:12:25,013 --> 01:12:26,333
Speaker 3: make sure they're okay while they're there.

1542
01:12:27,452 --> 01:12:31,053
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, well that's what you know. The purpose of

1543
01:12:31,133 --> 01:12:33,612
Speaker 5: life is responsibility. That's what I read somewhere, and I

1544
01:12:33,772 --> 01:12:34,532
Speaker 5: family believe that.

1545
01:12:35,492 --> 01:12:37,492
Speaker 2: What about when your kids come home they dump the

1546
01:12:37,732 --> 01:12:40,173
Speaker 2: washing and then they clear the cupboards out and then

1547
01:12:40,293 --> 01:12:42,372
Speaker 2: head out of it. Because I feel quite guilty about

1548
01:12:42,412 --> 01:12:44,093
Speaker 2: when I first moved out of home because I didn't

1549
01:12:44,133 --> 01:12:46,452
Speaker 2: quite get the concept in my head that it wasn't

1550
01:12:46,652 --> 01:12:48,933
Speaker 2: just basically a hotel. I mean, my dad saying to

1551
01:12:48,973 --> 01:12:50,892
Speaker 2: me quite a lot, this isn't a hotel, and we'd

1552
01:12:50,973 --> 01:12:52,973
Speaker 2: have arguments and say, yeah, it's not a hotel. I

1553
01:12:53,053 --> 01:12:56,532
Speaker 2: don't pay, but what I didn't. But you know that

1554
01:12:56,772 --> 01:12:59,132
Speaker 2: when the kids come home and they're still kind of acting,

1555
01:13:00,173 --> 01:13:03,133
Speaker 2: they just dump the laundry, empty the cupboards, and then

1556
01:13:03,492 --> 01:13:05,253
Speaker 2: head back out with hardly say anything. I mean, that

1557
01:13:05,452 --> 01:13:07,372
Speaker 2: stuff hurts, doesn't it. Did your kids do that, Henry?

1558
01:13:08,492 --> 01:13:12,052
Speaker 5: Oh, they do, coming and help themselves into the cupboard,

1559
01:13:12,053 --> 01:13:15,333
Speaker 5: but they know that there's certain foods that that's Dad's

1560
01:13:15,333 --> 01:13:17,893
Speaker 5: foods that you don't touch that. So everything else is

1561
01:13:17,933 --> 01:13:20,412
Speaker 5: see a game. But laundry. No, they do their own.

1562
01:13:20,412 --> 01:13:21,892
Speaker 5: If they come in with their laundry and then yip,

1563
01:13:21,933 --> 01:13:25,612
Speaker 5: by all means use our washing machine. But yeah, no, no,

1564
01:13:26,253 --> 01:13:26,852
Speaker 5: I don't touch that.

1565
01:13:27,053 --> 01:13:28,812
Speaker 3: You're good, Yeah, you're a good dad, Henry. Thank you

1566
01:13:28,933 --> 01:13:30,732
Speaker 3: very much. Oh eight one hundred and eighty, ten eighty.

1567
01:13:30,772 --> 01:13:32,692
Speaker 3: If you've recently become an empty nest to how's it

1568
01:13:32,732 --> 01:13:34,692
Speaker 3: gone for you? You're loving it or did it take

1569
01:13:34,772 --> 01:13:37,532
Speaker 3: some time to adjust? Nine two nine two is the

1570
01:13:37,692 --> 01:13:38,213
Speaker 3: text number.

1571
01:13:38,612 --> 01:13:41,133
Speaker 2: Hi, guys, my husband left. When my youngest child left,

1572
01:13:41,412 --> 01:13:43,532
Speaker 2: he had a woman already ten years younger than him.

1573
01:13:43,652 --> 01:13:46,133
Speaker 2: Terrible at the time. But I'm okay now do you Jane?

1574
01:13:46,173 --> 01:13:47,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a hard adjustment.

1575
01:13:47,572 --> 01:13:47,772
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1576
01:13:47,933 --> 01:13:50,652
Speaker 2: I mean if you your partner moves out with the kids,

1577
01:13:51,053 --> 01:13:53,173
Speaker 2: and that's a whole different scenarios.

1578
01:13:53,372 --> 01:13:55,492
Speaker 3: That is horrible, right, nine to three, taking more of

1579
01:13:55,532 --> 01:13:57,532
Speaker 3: your calls on eight hundred and eighty, ten eighty.

1580
01:13:58,572 --> 01:14:00,932
Speaker 1: The issues that affect you, and a bit of fun

1581
01:14:01,053 --> 01:14:04,932
Speaker 1: along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons news talks.

1582
01:14:04,933 --> 01:14:05,293
Speaker 15: They'd be.

1583
01:14:07,293 --> 01:14:09,972
Speaker 3: Very good. Afternoon to three, we're talking about the adjustment

1584
01:14:10,013 --> 01:14:12,253
Speaker 3: to becoming an empty nesta. How did it go for you?

1585
01:14:12,532 --> 01:14:14,452
Speaker 3: One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1586
01:14:15,253 --> 01:14:17,612
Speaker 3: Uh Shane, how are you mate?

1587
01:14:18,732 --> 01:14:22,532
Speaker 16: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, God, I had I had visions of

1588
01:14:22,692 --> 01:14:26,372
Speaker 16: my place being like the Waltons. You know, I didn't

1589
01:14:26,412 --> 01:14:28,572
Speaker 16: want the kids to shift out that well, they all

1590
01:14:28,652 --> 01:14:31,972
Speaker 16: shifted out and they got partners and some got married.

1591
01:14:32,093 --> 01:14:35,293
Speaker 16: And but now I've got six adults living at home

1592
01:14:35,612 --> 01:14:38,772
Speaker 16: and I've locked up four greends living at home.

1593
01:14:38,973 --> 01:14:39,772
Speaker 2: So they all came back.

1594
01:14:41,293 --> 01:14:42,213
Speaker 7: Yeah, they came back.

1595
01:14:42,692 --> 01:14:44,372
Speaker 2: They came back and they bought more.

1596
01:14:44,293 --> 01:14:49,053
Speaker 16: People they had. Yeah, well we were probably would have

1597
01:14:49,293 --> 01:14:54,173
Speaker 16: more grandkids of stuff happened. But we've we've got a

1598
01:14:54,253 --> 01:15:00,692
Speaker 16: seven bedroom place, we've got six bathrooms. You know. It's

1599
01:15:01,213 --> 01:15:06,652
Speaker 16: but the thing is, this happened all five years ago.

1600
01:15:07,053 --> 01:15:10,412
Speaker 16: They shifted in and and now I'm having second fourth.

1601
01:15:12,412 --> 01:15:14,253
Speaker 12: It seemed like a great idea.

1602
01:15:14,652 --> 01:15:19,772
Speaker 16: You know, my oldest is forty two, the youngest is

1603
01:15:20,013 --> 01:15:24,492
Speaker 16: with thirty five, so you know, and they've got their

1604
01:15:24,572 --> 01:15:29,532
Speaker 16: partners there. They look, they pay rent. They do pay well,

1605
01:15:29,652 --> 01:15:33,612
Speaker 16: more like board. But one thing is, as they all

1606
01:15:33,692 --> 01:15:37,492
Speaker 16: went to the mother to thought that out, they didn't

1607
01:15:37,532 --> 01:15:41,732
Speaker 16: come to me. Mum was quite soft on how much

1608
01:15:41,812 --> 01:15:42,532
Speaker 16: they were to pay.

1609
01:15:44,013 --> 01:15:46,093
Speaker 5: So Mum and I.

1610
01:15:47,053 --> 01:15:50,652
Speaker 16: Mum and I are now having to play the lion's

1611
01:15:50,812 --> 01:15:55,412
Speaker 16: cheer love everything. And you know if you say, oh,

1612
01:15:55,492 --> 01:15:59,293
Speaker 16: look we need more money for this, you know some

1613
01:15:59,612 --> 01:16:03,492
Speaker 16: some go off, but you know we can't afford that. Well,

1614
01:16:03,692 --> 01:16:07,612
Speaker 16: some of them are actually earning more than we. I'm retired.

1615
01:16:08,333 --> 01:16:12,532
Speaker 2: When she next when your next board negotiation, Shane, I

1616
01:16:12,652 --> 01:16:14,213
Speaker 2: think you need to renegotiate terms.

1617
01:16:14,812 --> 01:16:17,253
Speaker 16: We do need to renegotiate.

1618
01:16:18,333 --> 01:16:22,452
Speaker 7: But then that can that can end up in big ballistics.

1619
01:16:23,492 --> 01:16:23,692
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1620
01:16:24,213 --> 01:16:26,253
Speaker 2: I think your problem Shane is that you've got seven

1621
01:16:26,333 --> 01:16:27,732
Speaker 2: bedrooms and six bathrooms.

1622
01:16:27,853 --> 01:16:30,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, they get the sweet deal. Shane. You know you

1623
01:16:30,173 --> 01:16:31,732
Speaker 3: can increase the board a little bit, mate.

1624
01:16:31,772 --> 01:16:34,173
Speaker 2: It's a bit of a sort of a trap there. Yeah,

1625
01:16:34,572 --> 01:16:37,052
Speaker 2: you know it certainly is sex bathrooms. That's impressive.

1626
01:16:37,133 --> 01:16:37,732
Speaker 3: That's good times.

1627
01:16:37,853 --> 01:16:37,933
Speaker 15: Right.

1628
01:16:37,933 --> 01:16:39,492
Speaker 3: We're going to keep this going because we've got a

1629
01:16:39,492 --> 01:16:41,932
Speaker 3: few people on the line waiting to have a chat

1630
01:16:41,973 --> 01:16:45,132
Speaker 3: with King do here. Your experiences are becoming empty nesters?

1631
01:16:45,372 --> 01:16:47,732
Speaker 3: What was the adjustment? Like O E one hundred and

1632
01:16:47,732 --> 01:16:49,372
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is that number to call? Nine two

1633
01:16:49,452 --> 01:16:52,012
Speaker 3: nine two is the text? New Sport and Weather on its.

1634
01:16:51,893 --> 01:16:57,213
Speaker 1: Way talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heath and

1635
01:16:57,293 --> 01:16:59,892
Speaker 1: Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talks.

1636
01:17:00,133 --> 01:17:04,333
Speaker 3: Be Afternoon to you. Welcome back into the show seven

1637
01:17:04,412 --> 01:17:06,732
Speaker 3: past three. Great to have you with us as always.

1638
01:17:06,812 --> 01:17:08,652
Speaker 3: And we have been chatting about empty net because it

1639
01:17:08,772 --> 01:17:10,932
Speaker 3: was after a story in the Herald where a woman

1640
01:17:10,973 --> 01:17:13,932
Speaker 3: wrote and asking for advice. She's recently become an empty

1641
01:17:14,013 --> 01:17:16,692
Speaker 3: nest of four kids. They have flown the coup and

1642
01:17:16,812 --> 01:17:19,692
Speaker 3: sees she loves many things about being an empty nest,

1643
01:17:19,732 --> 01:17:22,452
Speaker 3: to the quiet house of full fridge, the karma routines,

1644
01:17:22,772 --> 01:17:25,692
Speaker 3: but she's not enjoying being around her husband anymore.

1645
01:17:25,933 --> 01:17:30,253
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, yeah, when your kids moved out at its

1646
01:17:30,253 --> 01:17:33,093
Speaker 2: strengthen your relationship or exposed cracks in it. Have you've

1647
01:17:33,093 --> 01:17:35,652
Speaker 2: got your kids there, are you fearful about them moving out?

1648
01:17:35,893 --> 01:17:36,093
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1649
01:17:36,293 --> 01:17:38,253
Speaker 2: I mean that's the thing with me. I loved I

1650
01:17:38,333 --> 01:17:41,253
Speaker 2: love every second of having my kids around, so I

1651
01:17:42,213 --> 01:17:43,812
Speaker 2: don't like the idea of them moving out at all.

1652
01:17:44,452 --> 01:17:47,372
Speaker 2: So when your kids finally moved out, was it freedom

1653
01:17:47,532 --> 01:17:51,452
Speaker 2: loaningness or was it a bit of both? And yeah,

1654
01:17:51,492 --> 01:17:54,613
Speaker 2: what was the weirdest bit? The silence, the mess disappearing.

1655
01:17:55,692 --> 01:17:57,972
Speaker 2: We'd love to hear from you. Eight hundred and eighty

1656
01:17:58,173 --> 01:18:00,492
Speaker 2: ten eighty. Now we've got a text here, haven't we. Yeah,

1657
01:18:00,572 --> 01:18:01,852
Speaker 2: we love that we need to address.

1658
01:18:01,973 --> 01:18:04,133
Speaker 3: Yeah. So the text is, I don't know why I

1659
01:18:04,213 --> 01:18:07,012
Speaker 3: bother texting. I spend a fortune over a year texting

1660
01:18:07,133 --> 01:18:10,852
Speaker 3: you two clowns. Even Mike Hoskin reads my occasional texts.

1661
01:18:10,933 --> 01:18:12,692
Speaker 3: I'm over it is that from us?

1662
01:18:12,853 --> 01:18:14,852
Speaker 2: That is from us. Mars is great New Zealander and

1663
01:18:14,933 --> 01:18:16,893
Speaker 2: a great man. And I love his texts, yep, and

1664
01:18:16,973 --> 01:18:18,572
Speaker 2: I read them and he brings me a lot of

1665
01:18:18,652 --> 01:18:20,973
Speaker 2: joy every day, even if I don't even if we

1666
01:18:21,013 --> 01:18:23,333
Speaker 2: don't read them out and Mus, we get thousands of texts,

1667
01:18:23,372 --> 01:18:25,532
Speaker 2: so sometimes we miss yours. But when I read them,

1668
01:18:25,812 --> 01:18:26,732
Speaker 2: they're nearly always good.

1669
01:18:26,812 --> 01:18:27,852
Speaker 12: So to.

1670
01:18:29,333 --> 01:18:31,013
Speaker 2: Have you got can you go back and get like,

1671
01:18:31,452 --> 01:18:33,692
Speaker 2: how about you read the last of three last three

1672
01:18:33,732 --> 01:18:35,372
Speaker 2: texts from Mars out that's a great idea.

1673
01:18:35,492 --> 01:18:37,652
Speaker 3: So Mus, your money is not wasted, hear my friends.

1674
01:18:37,772 --> 01:18:40,052
Speaker 3: So he is a text and related to the topic

1675
01:18:40,053 --> 01:18:42,652
Speaker 3: we're talking about now from muzz it if and sucks.

1676
01:18:42,692 --> 01:18:44,892
Speaker 3: When your kids move out, you spend seventeen to eighteen

1677
01:18:44,973 --> 01:18:49,293
Speaker 3: years being the keygiver, friend, mentor, uber driver, chef cleaner, nurse,

1678
01:18:49,372 --> 01:18:51,812
Speaker 3: counselor to your kids, and then you basically have to

1679
01:18:51,933 --> 01:18:54,013
Speaker 3: create a new life without them. I don't like it.

1680
01:18:54,173 --> 01:18:57,133
Speaker 3: That's a great text from mus that is beautifully written. Actually, yep,

1681
01:18:57,732 --> 01:18:58,612
Speaker 3: the on Mars.

1682
01:18:58,612 --> 01:18:59,492
Speaker 2: We should have read that one out.

1683
01:18:59,572 --> 01:19:01,892
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the one above that we should shoot all

1684
01:19:01,973 --> 01:19:05,093
Speaker 3: dogs under fifteen kilo because they aren't dogs. Yeah, a

1685
01:19:05,412 --> 01:19:07,572
Speaker 3: bit more full on, muzz, Yeah, slightly more full on.

1686
01:19:07,732 --> 01:19:10,333
Speaker 2: Well, my dog Colin ways nine point five kilos.

1687
01:19:10,412 --> 01:19:12,133
Speaker 3: Oh, you can't take Colin out. Colin is the best

1688
01:19:12,173 --> 01:19:13,732
Speaker 3: of us. He's good, he's a good boy. He's a

1689
01:19:13,772 --> 01:19:14,492
Speaker 3: good boy Colin.

1690
01:19:14,572 --> 01:19:15,333
Speaker 2: But he is catlike.

1691
01:19:16,253 --> 01:19:19,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's a handsome And the one before that,

1692
01:19:19,692 --> 01:19:22,612
Speaker 3: and this one's addressed to Kerry, so sees Kerry, if

1693
01:19:22,652 --> 01:19:25,452
Speaker 3: anything happened to you, everybody loves you. So that go

1694
01:19:25,612 --> 01:19:28,973
Speaker 3: fundme page would go ballistic from MUDs. So you're right

1695
01:19:29,053 --> 01:19:30,973
Speaker 3: on that everyone does love Kerry. Okay, she is a

1696
01:19:31,053 --> 01:19:31,892
Speaker 3: very lovable person.

1697
01:19:32,093 --> 01:19:34,972
Speaker 2: So I agree with two out of those three texts.

1698
01:19:36,173 --> 01:19:36,892
Speaker 3: Maybe one more.

1699
01:19:37,133 --> 01:19:37,333
Speaker 5: Yep.

1700
01:19:37,893 --> 01:19:40,492
Speaker 3: It's cougars that are damn dangerous, Carrie. So I don't

1701
01:19:40,492 --> 01:19:42,492
Speaker 3: know what type of cougars, hopefully the animal But there

1702
01:19:42,532 --> 01:19:44,572
Speaker 3: you go, MUDs. So hopefully that remedies it.

1703
01:19:45,572 --> 01:19:48,972
Speaker 2: We love you, Yeah, we love receiving your texts. Raven,

1704
01:19:49,372 --> 01:19:50,133
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

1705
01:19:51,532 --> 01:19:52,572
Speaker 20: Yeah, hi hi.

1706
01:19:53,093 --> 01:19:58,253
Speaker 19: So our story was our down to just the youngest

1707
01:19:58,293 --> 01:20:01,333
Speaker 19: at home and my husband said, realizing that we're going

1708
01:20:01,412 --> 01:20:03,812
Speaker 19: to we're going to be it shortly, and he got

1709
01:20:03,853 --> 01:20:06,052
Speaker 19: on trade me and found as a couple of bikes,

1710
01:20:08,333 --> 01:20:10,173
Speaker 19: and he didn't really talk about it with me too much,

1711
01:20:10,213 --> 01:20:11,732
Speaker 19: but he's just like, I reckon we would enjoy this,

1712
01:20:11,853 --> 01:20:14,492
Speaker 19: and then suddenly I'm being told to come and try

1713
01:20:14,572 --> 01:20:17,452
Speaker 19: out a bike. So we got these bikes and we

1714
01:20:17,572 --> 01:20:20,173
Speaker 19: really enjoyed it, and we're really thankful that we got

1715
01:20:20,213 --> 01:20:22,852
Speaker 19: into that because it did give us something to be

1716
01:20:22,973 --> 01:20:29,572
Speaker 19: talking about immediately. We've always maintained our relationship. But the

1717
01:20:29,692 --> 01:20:33,013
Speaker 19: youngest one actually left suddenly because his brother had a

1718
01:20:33,093 --> 01:20:35,732
Speaker 19: space in a flat and out of the blue, he

1719
01:20:35,812 --> 01:20:38,053
Speaker 19: just said, oh, my older brother needs me as a

1720
01:20:38,093 --> 01:20:39,893
Speaker 19: flat bote a year later and we didn't have to

1721
01:20:39,933 --> 01:20:42,732
Speaker 19: get any warning on that one, and so off he went.

1722
01:20:42,973 --> 01:20:46,532
Speaker 19: But they we had our bikes and we booked to

1723
01:20:46,652 --> 01:20:49,213
Speaker 19: do the Alps to Ocean, so we hitded down country

1724
01:20:49,293 --> 01:20:51,852
Speaker 19: and did the way. Techi Valley was our first big

1725
01:20:51,973 --> 01:20:54,093
Speaker 19: ride and we've just gone on to enjoy ride since then.

1726
01:20:54,333 --> 01:20:56,173
Speaker 2: Are these bikes Raven?

1727
01:20:57,013 --> 01:20:57,572
Speaker 1: No, Well, we.

1728
01:20:57,692 --> 01:21:02,013
Speaker 19: Started it on both muscled bikes, but after a few

1729
01:21:02,093 --> 01:21:05,013
Speaker 19: years I wore my husband's patience out and he got

1730
01:21:05,053 --> 01:21:05,612
Speaker 19: me an EE bike.

1731
01:21:06,093 --> 01:21:08,532
Speaker 2: So he's still pumping the pedals. But you're an EE

1732
01:21:08,612 --> 01:21:12,492
Speaker 2: bike now to keep up with them. Yeah, that's it, lovely.

1733
01:21:12,652 --> 01:21:14,452
Speaker 3: How good are the e bikes though, Raven? I mean

1734
01:21:14,492 --> 01:21:15,052
Speaker 3: game changing?

1735
01:21:16,213 --> 01:21:16,412
Speaker 15: Yeah?

1736
01:21:16,692 --> 01:21:19,012
Speaker 19: Nah, that awesome. But I also want to mention about

1737
01:21:19,013 --> 01:21:21,732
Speaker 19: the boomerang thing. Our kids boomeranged quite a bit when

1738
01:21:21,732 --> 01:21:24,452
Speaker 19: they're at UNI, and we kept their rooms, but whenever

1739
01:21:24,492 --> 01:21:26,812
Speaker 19: they came home, you know, you're part of the family,

1740
01:21:26,933 --> 01:21:29,253
Speaker 19: so your mow and lawns, you're doing dishes, and if

1741
01:21:29,293 --> 01:21:32,572
Speaker 19: you're living here for summer, you get a job. And

1742
01:21:32,652 --> 01:21:34,772
Speaker 19: if you can't find a job, we've got a mate

1743
01:21:34,772 --> 01:21:36,772
Speaker 19: who's got a few rentals that needs painted, so we'll

1744
01:21:36,772 --> 01:21:37,213
Speaker 19: give you one.

1745
01:21:37,293 --> 01:21:41,412
Speaker 2: You know, Wow, how many kids did you have, Raven

1746
01:21:41,492 --> 01:21:44,732
Speaker 2: at home? At the peak of kids at home.

1747
01:21:45,492 --> 01:21:48,612
Speaker 19: Three three and over the UNI years the three of

1748
01:21:48,652 --> 01:21:50,973
Speaker 19: them were back here and we kept their rooms. But

1749
01:21:51,253 --> 01:21:53,452
Speaker 19: the deal was if you come home to stay over summer,

1750
01:21:53,532 --> 01:21:55,133
Speaker 19: that you find work, and they always did.

1751
01:21:55,973 --> 01:21:59,772
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's surprising, how you know when your kids move

1752
01:21:59,812 --> 01:22:03,133
Speaker 2: out for YUNI. It's this surprised me because one of

1753
01:22:03,173 --> 01:22:05,133
Speaker 2: my sons moved out for UNI this year. That UNI

1754
01:22:05,213 --> 01:22:07,412
Speaker 2: only seems to go for a very short amount of time.

1755
01:22:08,452 --> 01:22:11,213
Speaker 2: It's true, they're not really moved out. It's sort of

1756
01:22:11,412 --> 01:22:13,612
Speaker 2: on holiday. Really, that's kind of more like a school

1757
01:22:13,652 --> 01:22:16,173
Speaker 2: camp than it is an actual moving out.

1758
01:22:17,253 --> 01:22:20,133
Speaker 19: Yes, I could understand that. I do feel with this

1759
01:22:20,293 --> 01:22:23,452
Speaker 19: lady who's saying that she isn't enjoying her husband's company.

1760
01:22:23,772 --> 01:22:28,013
Speaker 19: But I think a relationship takes work, and it's not

1761
01:22:28,253 --> 01:22:31,372
Speaker 19: just about Hollywood falling in love myth. But you've got

1762
01:22:31,452 --> 01:22:34,412
Speaker 19: to work at it and keep finding those things you enjoy.

1763
01:22:35,173 --> 01:22:37,293
Speaker 2: So do you see it kind of as three stages Raven?

1764
01:22:37,372 --> 01:22:41,293
Speaker 2: So you had the initial courtship and romance part of

1765
01:22:41,532 --> 01:22:44,333
Speaker 2: your relationship, and then there's the kids part, and now

1766
01:22:44,452 --> 01:22:47,933
Speaker 2: you're rebuilding a new thing. But it's different from the

1767
01:22:47,973 --> 01:22:48,772
Speaker 2: previous two things.

1768
01:22:49,973 --> 01:22:52,492
Speaker 19: Yeah, but strangely, we might be a bit weird, But

1769
01:22:52,532 --> 01:22:55,012
Speaker 19: we always thought that the mum and dad, the husband

1770
01:22:55,013 --> 01:22:58,333
Speaker 19: and wife, were the primary relationship, and those kids came

1771
01:22:58,452 --> 01:23:02,333
Speaker 19: into that relationship. The best thing The best thing parents

1772
01:23:02,372 --> 01:23:04,612
Speaker 19: can do for their children is to love mom, and

1773
01:23:04,853 --> 01:23:09,253
Speaker 19: for mum and dad to love each other. That working well,

1774
01:23:09,333 --> 01:23:11,572
Speaker 19: that gives them huge confidence in life.

1775
01:23:12,053 --> 01:23:12,213
Speaker 16: Yeah.

1776
01:23:12,293 --> 01:23:14,053
Speaker 2: It's a good example as well, isn't it, you know,

1777
01:23:14,173 --> 01:23:18,093
Speaker 2: for them going for I remember when I was a kid,

1778
01:23:18,213 --> 01:23:20,093
Speaker 2: my dad would always sit down at the table for dinner,

1779
01:23:20,213 --> 01:23:23,612
Speaker 2: and my dad would always say something before he started eating,

1780
01:23:23,652 --> 01:23:25,812
Speaker 2: something nice about my mum. He'd be like, I don't

1781
01:23:25,853 --> 01:23:28,133
Speaker 2: think your kids know how lovely your mam is. Oh

1782
01:23:28,333 --> 01:23:30,293
Speaker 2: that's or something like that. He'd always start before we

1783
01:23:30,333 --> 01:23:33,173
Speaker 2: started eating with a really lovely compliment to my mum.

1784
01:23:33,333 --> 01:23:34,092
Speaker 3: That is beautiful.

1785
01:23:34,173 --> 01:23:34,452
Speaker 12: It was.

1786
01:23:34,612 --> 01:23:36,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, what a good dad you've got.

1787
01:23:36,452 --> 01:23:37,732
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is a great man.

1788
01:23:38,053 --> 01:23:40,732
Speaker 3: I'm going to take note of that. Yeah, I'm definitely

1789
01:23:40,853 --> 01:23:42,972
Speaker 3: using that when I become a dad. That is beautiful.

1790
01:23:44,333 --> 01:23:45,852
Speaker 2: Hey, thank you so much to be cool, Raven, And

1791
01:23:45,933 --> 01:23:48,012
Speaker 2: I'm good luck out there on the bike tracks.

1792
01:23:48,853 --> 01:23:50,492
Speaker 19: Yeah, looten forward to it when sud were coming.

1793
01:23:50,572 --> 01:23:53,253
Speaker 3: Ah, yeah, yeah too, Right, what a great caller. Thank

1794
01:23:53,293 --> 01:23:55,972
Speaker 3: you very much, Raven. Oh wait, one hundred eighty ten eighty.

1795
01:23:56,053 --> 01:23:58,532
Speaker 3: If you've recently become an empty nester, how did you

1796
01:23:58,812 --> 01:24:00,173
Speaker 3: ad just to that?

1797
01:24:00,333 --> 01:24:00,772
Speaker 5: New Life.

1798
01:24:00,853 --> 01:24:03,572
Speaker 2: Love to hear from you, Matt and Tyler love the

1799
01:24:03,612 --> 01:24:06,052
Speaker 2: show as I paint my day way. If you're growing

1800
01:24:06,173 --> 01:24:08,812
Speaker 2: up kids are still coming home to get their laundry

1801
01:24:09,492 --> 01:24:11,772
Speaker 2: and to raid the pantry, then you have failed as

1802
01:24:11,772 --> 01:24:15,372
Speaker 2: a parent and need a good tasering simple. Your job

1803
01:24:15,452 --> 01:24:17,213
Speaker 2: is to get them ready to live on their own

1804
01:24:17,333 --> 01:24:19,932
Speaker 2: in the world. I mean, they're always welcome in times

1805
01:24:19,973 --> 01:24:23,253
Speaker 2: of trouble. Yeah, yeah, it is.

1806
01:24:23,692 --> 01:24:25,892
Speaker 3: Yeah, but what can you do and what's the level

1807
01:24:25,933 --> 01:24:27,772
Speaker 3: of trouble? You know, I talk about the boomerang is.

1808
01:24:27,893 --> 01:24:30,213
Speaker 3: I don't know if I was really in trouble. It's

1809
01:24:30,412 --> 01:24:32,452
Speaker 3: just that Mum had a cheap place to stay in

1810
01:24:32,572 --> 01:24:34,852
Speaker 3: good food as long as I didn't take them mick

1811
01:24:34,973 --> 01:24:35,372
Speaker 3: too much.

1812
01:24:35,572 --> 01:24:38,092
Speaker 2: So I'll push back a little bit on that around

1813
01:24:38,173 --> 01:24:39,892
Speaker 2: the food because I used to come back and raid

1814
01:24:39,933 --> 01:24:43,492
Speaker 2: the cupboards, right, But then I'd go back home about

1815
01:24:43,572 --> 01:24:46,012
Speaker 2: ten years later and the be cans at the back

1816
01:24:46,093 --> 01:24:48,772
Speaker 2: of the can cupboard that had not been touched for

1817
01:24:48,853 --> 01:24:49,253
Speaker 2: ten years.

1818
01:24:49,333 --> 01:24:50,812
Speaker 3: So you were doing them a favor. Yeah, I was

1819
01:24:50,853 --> 01:24:52,333
Speaker 3: just helping them out with their can proper.

1820
01:24:52,412 --> 01:24:56,492
Speaker 2: Helping stock get through the system, you know, helping them

1821
01:24:56,572 --> 01:24:58,253
Speaker 2: rotate their foodstocks.

1822
01:24:58,532 --> 01:25:00,372
Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten Eightyes that number to

1823
01:25:00,412 --> 01:25:02,173
Speaker 3: cool love to hear from you. It's quarter past three.

1824
01:25:02,652 --> 01:25:03,492
Speaker 2: Used talks'd be.

1825
01:25:03,772 --> 01:25:06,932
Speaker 3: Seventeen pass three becoming an empty nest to how hard

1826
01:25:07,093 --> 01:25:09,492
Speaker 3: or easy was it? Four oh, eight hundred and eighty

1827
01:25:09,652 --> 01:25:11,013
Speaker 3: ten eighty is that number to.

1828
01:25:11,013 --> 01:25:14,412
Speaker 2: Call Charie, Welcome to the show. Tell us about your

1829
01:25:14,572 --> 01:25:17,293
Speaker 2: situation eighteen.

1830
01:25:17,013 --> 01:25:18,772
Speaker 17: First time caller, been dying to say that.

1831
01:25:19,572 --> 01:25:21,893
Speaker 3: Welcome, Thank you.

1832
01:25:22,492 --> 01:25:24,973
Speaker 17: Our story is not two to similar to Ravens. I

1833
01:25:25,093 --> 01:25:30,772
Speaker 17: loved her chat. We had three children after trying for

1834
01:25:30,893 --> 01:25:33,333
Speaker 17: many many years. We had three children very close together,

1835
01:25:33,412 --> 01:25:36,892
Speaker 17: in fact, only sixteen months apart. So when they got

1836
01:25:37,853 --> 01:25:40,933
Speaker 17: a bit older, our daughter went off to UNI, and

1837
01:25:41,013 --> 01:25:43,213
Speaker 17: then the year later our twins went off to UNI

1838
01:25:43,293 --> 01:25:45,173
Speaker 17: as well, so it was a mass exit sort of,

1839
01:25:45,213 --> 01:25:48,532
Speaker 17: all in a bit of a quick succession. I had

1840
01:25:48,572 --> 01:25:51,452
Speaker 17: a bit of a bit of a mountdown and missed

1841
01:25:51,532 --> 01:25:54,973
Speaker 17: being a mum. We both had very stressful jobs, so

1842
01:25:55,133 --> 01:25:58,093
Speaker 17: in the end we decided that we were going to

1843
01:25:58,173 --> 01:26:01,692
Speaker 17: sell the house. We bought a new caravan and we

1844
01:26:01,812 --> 01:26:03,772
Speaker 17: decided we were going to travel around New Zealand for

1845
01:26:03,853 --> 01:26:06,812
Speaker 17: the next twelve months ended up being fifteen months, and

1846
01:26:06,973 --> 01:26:09,732
Speaker 17: we loved every minute of it and it was great

1847
01:26:09,812 --> 01:26:12,333
Speaker 17: stress relief. We caught up the kids along the way,

1848
01:26:12,452 --> 01:26:14,372
Speaker 17: We threw them down to us so they could have

1849
01:26:14,532 --> 01:26:17,133
Speaker 17: Christmas with us when we were in christ Church, and

1850
01:26:17,253 --> 01:26:21,532
Speaker 17: it was just an amazing reset and giving up stressful

1851
01:26:21,612 --> 01:26:24,932
Speaker 17: jobs and readjusting to just us being a couple again,

1852
01:26:25,053 --> 01:26:27,892
Speaker 17: with us and the dog, traveling around New Zealand seeing

1853
01:26:27,933 --> 01:26:30,532
Speaker 17: what a beautiful country. This was the best thing that

1854
01:26:30,612 --> 01:26:30,892
Speaker 17: we did.

1855
01:26:31,173 --> 01:26:33,133
Speaker 2: How good? And that is really testing things, isn't it

1856
01:26:33,732 --> 01:26:36,052
Speaker 2: getting in a small, confined area together.

1857
01:26:37,293 --> 01:26:40,812
Speaker 17: Absolutely, But we were best friends long before we got

1858
01:26:40,893 --> 01:26:44,412
Speaker 17: married and we've kept that now for twenty eight years.

1859
01:26:44,692 --> 01:26:46,293
Speaker 2: So did you did you completely get rid of the

1860
01:26:46,333 --> 01:26:50,053
Speaker 2: house and only have the you know, the mobile home,

1861
01:26:50,173 --> 01:26:51,692
Speaker 2: or did you have a home and a mobile home

1862
01:26:52,173 --> 01:26:54,132
Speaker 2: or just the moment we wow.

1863
01:26:54,173 --> 01:26:54,973
Speaker 17: Just the mobile.

1864
01:26:56,853 --> 01:26:57,053
Speaker 16: Yep.

1865
01:26:57,213 --> 01:26:59,492
Speaker 17: It was literally like are we going to do this?

1866
01:26:59,652 --> 01:27:01,253
Speaker 17: We sat down, we worked down a budget what we

1867
01:27:01,333 --> 01:27:04,492
Speaker 17: needed to do. We both gave up our jobs, bought

1868
01:27:04,772 --> 01:27:06,692
Speaker 17: from house, bought caravan.

1869
01:27:06,572 --> 01:27:07,692
Speaker 2: And hit the road.

1870
01:27:08,772 --> 01:27:13,173
Speaker 17: We've come back now and we've settled again and with

1871
01:27:13,372 --> 01:27:15,892
Speaker 17: water what we call our little tiny home, but it's

1872
01:27:15,893 --> 01:27:17,572
Speaker 17: spoken up off. The kids come back and stay for

1873
01:27:17,652 --> 01:27:18,093
Speaker 17: a little bit.

1874
01:27:19,213 --> 01:27:20,772
Speaker 2: You still got the cambra ven, you still got the

1875
01:27:20,853 --> 01:27:21,333
Speaker 2: mobile home.

1876
01:27:22,452 --> 01:27:24,973
Speaker 17: We've downsized, they're going to downsize it. We've sold the

1877
01:27:25,013 --> 01:27:27,973
Speaker 17: big one that we're living in and we're going to

1878
01:27:28,053 --> 01:27:29,133
Speaker 17: get a motor home.

1879
01:27:29,572 --> 01:27:30,693
Speaker 3: How big was that stay?

1880
01:27:30,853 --> 01:27:33,293
Speaker 2: How big was the one that you moved into for

1881
01:27:33,372 --> 01:27:34,093
Speaker 2: fifteen months?

1882
01:27:35,013 --> 01:27:37,452
Speaker 17: It was a It was a leisure line shout out

1883
01:27:37,452 --> 01:27:41,213
Speaker 17: of leisure line, A leisure Line sixteen four, So six

1884
01:27:42,053 --> 01:27:46,652
Speaker 17: four must be nearly thirty feet. They had a double

1885
01:27:46,692 --> 01:27:51,172
Speaker 17: bed at the one end, bathroom, toilet, share, washing machine,

1886
01:27:52,013 --> 01:27:54,492
Speaker 17: you shaped lounge at the end. All you needed. And

1887
01:27:54,612 --> 01:27:56,892
Speaker 17: it was amazing to live like that and realize how

1888
01:27:56,933 --> 01:27:58,412
Speaker 17: little you actually need in life.

1889
01:27:58,692 --> 01:28:00,452
Speaker 2: So was that was it a sort of a trailer

1890
01:28:01,173 --> 01:28:02,452
Speaker 2: kind of situation or was it?

1891
01:28:02,812 --> 01:28:03,053
Speaker 21: Was it a.

1892
01:28:04,933 --> 01:28:05,732
Speaker 17: Full on caravan?

1893
01:28:07,612 --> 01:28:08,333
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah yeah.

1894
01:28:08,492 --> 01:28:13,412
Speaker 3: And the way we went, I'm just having a week. Look,

1895
01:28:13,692 --> 01:28:15,572
Speaker 3: it's a nice kitchen for a caravan.

1896
01:28:16,412 --> 01:28:18,893
Speaker 17: Absolutely. I baked a lot of bread and scones and

1897
01:28:19,213 --> 01:28:22,892
Speaker 17: cooked meals and all in there. Just yeah, they are amazing.

1898
01:28:23,053 --> 01:28:25,412
Speaker 17: And we met some wonderful people along the way as well.

1899
01:28:26,093 --> 01:28:28,612
Speaker 17: And like I say, we were able to fly our

1900
01:28:28,692 --> 01:28:32,293
Speaker 17: kids down for in the Christmas holidays from Uni down

1901
01:28:32,412 --> 01:28:34,213
Speaker 17: just being Christmas with us and stuff as well.

1902
01:28:34,333 --> 01:28:39,093
Speaker 2: So around what were the rules around your husband using

1903
01:28:39,133 --> 01:28:39,773
Speaker 2: the facilities?

1904
01:28:42,572 --> 01:28:47,213
Speaker 17: Fair question, It is a fair question. No, he he

1905
01:28:47,652 --> 01:28:51,452
Speaker 17: was allowed to use them, but the preference would be

1906
01:28:51,532 --> 01:28:52,692
Speaker 17: when he used the camp for.

1907
01:28:54,732 --> 01:28:56,013
Speaker 3: We were sheard facilities.

1908
01:28:56,013 --> 01:29:00,652
Speaker 2: Please. Yeah, I was in a camp in a mobile

1909
01:29:00,692 --> 01:29:04,732
Speaker 2: home sort of situation recently and that that became a

1910
01:29:04,772 --> 01:29:05,412
Speaker 2: bone of contention.

1911
01:29:05,812 --> 01:29:08,212
Speaker 3: But I still care about that from other players of play.

1912
01:29:08,053 --> 01:29:10,893
Speaker 2: Because because of the close quarter's nature of things. But

1913
01:29:11,253 --> 01:29:14,173
Speaker 2: I'm just looking at I'm just looking at the leisure

1914
01:29:14,253 --> 01:29:19,253
Speaker 2: lines six seven four beautiful, beautiful setup. Yeah, so you go.

1915
01:29:19,372 --> 01:29:22,333
Speaker 2: It was kitchen room for a double bed, and you

1916
01:29:22,732 --> 01:29:25,293
Speaker 2: know that's yeah, that's that's the.

1917
01:29:25,412 --> 01:29:28,852
Speaker 17: Opportunity to have a walk around bed. Don't underestimate that

1918
01:29:28,973 --> 01:29:31,053
Speaker 17: because you're climbing in and out of your partner. That's

1919
01:29:31,093 --> 01:29:34,133
Speaker 17: probably the divorce, being able to get around and in

1920
01:29:34,213 --> 01:29:36,812
Speaker 17: and out your own side. Having a full sized fridge,

1921
01:29:36,853 --> 01:29:41,173
Speaker 17: seed to go off grid with the solar on top. Yeah,

1922
01:29:41,173 --> 01:29:41,412
Speaker 17: it was.

1923
01:29:41,692 --> 01:29:42,412
Speaker 16: It was perfect.

1924
01:29:42,492 --> 01:29:44,173
Speaker 3: Do they have an on suite? I'm just trying to

1925
01:29:44,213 --> 01:29:45,893
Speaker 3: look in the we main bedroom here. It looks like

1926
01:29:46,093 --> 01:29:47,812
Speaker 3: is there a little sink to the side.

1927
01:29:48,933 --> 01:29:52,852
Speaker 17: Yeah, so that's a little that's got a toilet to

1928
01:29:52,973 --> 01:29:54,812
Speaker 17: one end, vanity in the middle, and shower on the

1929
01:29:54,853 --> 01:29:57,213
Speaker 17: other end. And the shower you can set tooth and

1930
01:29:57,412 --> 01:29:59,532
Speaker 17: got great pressure. Got an outdoor shower so you can

1931
01:29:59,572 --> 01:30:02,852
Speaker 17: shower them faster, dog or the sandy feet when you're

1932
01:30:02,853 --> 01:30:03,652
Speaker 17: coming from the beach.

1933
01:30:03,853 --> 01:30:08,452
Speaker 2: So yeah, what what happened after the fifteen months of

1934
01:30:08,572 --> 01:30:11,213
Speaker 2: roaming around that made you decide that it was time

1935
01:30:11,333 --> 01:30:15,772
Speaker 2: to you know, settle down again and get your tiny home.

1936
01:30:15,812 --> 01:30:21,252
Speaker 17: As you said, Well, our daughter and her man decided

1937
01:30:21,253 --> 01:30:23,333
Speaker 17: that they were getting married, so we were like, okay,

1938
01:30:23,452 --> 01:30:28,852
Speaker 17: now we need to pay for a wedding. And basically

1939
01:30:28,973 --> 01:30:31,693
Speaker 17: we're not retired. We're still a few years away from retirement.

1940
01:30:31,812 --> 01:30:34,612
Speaker 17: So we had set ourselves at budgets for the year

1941
01:30:34,692 --> 01:30:36,532
Speaker 17: to do that. So we called it our gap year.

1942
01:30:38,333 --> 01:30:40,532
Speaker 17: We never traveled out of season when we were we

1943
01:30:40,732 --> 01:30:43,293
Speaker 17: were we didn't do the bit owe to Europe, and

1944
01:30:43,333 --> 01:30:45,333
Speaker 17: you think when we young, we just did smaller trips.

1945
01:30:45,372 --> 01:30:48,253
Speaker 17: But so this was our gap year, and we always

1946
01:30:48,333 --> 01:30:52,772
Speaker 17: knew it was capped at twelve months for financial reasons,

1947
01:30:53,412 --> 01:30:55,932
Speaker 17: but yeah, I could do it again in a heartbeat

1948
01:30:56,013 --> 01:30:59,333
Speaker 17: if I had a way of off funding without showing

1949
01:30:59,372 --> 01:31:00,412
Speaker 17: through all of your capital.

1950
01:31:00,893 --> 01:31:02,412
Speaker 18: But you can pick do it and pick.

1951
01:31:02,333 --> 01:31:04,972
Speaker 17: Up jobs along the way if you do it within

1952
01:31:05,053 --> 01:31:08,932
Speaker 17: the seasons traveling around, do the cherry picking down and cromwell,

1953
01:31:10,372 --> 01:31:14,372
Speaker 17: oh nice fruit seasons. So there are there are jobs

1954
01:31:14,372 --> 01:31:15,612
Speaker 17: that you can do while you're down there.

1955
01:31:15,933 --> 01:31:18,452
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, great, some Blenham and stuff like that.

1956
01:31:18,692 --> 01:31:19,812
Speaker 17: It's not a bad lifestyle.

1957
01:31:20,213 --> 01:31:22,812
Speaker 2: I'm a little bit surprised that you expected to pay

1958
01:31:22,893 --> 01:31:25,492
Speaker 2: for your kids wedding. That's a bit of because because

1959
01:31:25,492 --> 01:31:27,253
Speaker 2: I always think about my kids. It's like, you know,

1960
01:31:27,412 --> 01:31:29,572
Speaker 2: they both had their braces done. Now, so I've paid

1961
01:31:29,612 --> 01:31:31,972
Speaker 2: for that. You can, you know, get them through UNI

1962
01:31:32,053 --> 01:31:34,093
Speaker 2: and all that kind of stuff. But when they go

1963
01:31:35,213 --> 01:31:37,812
Speaker 2: turn up and go I mean, did they was there

1964
01:31:37,853 --> 01:31:39,572
Speaker 2: a quest for you to pay for the wedding or

1965
01:31:39,652 --> 01:31:40,892
Speaker 2: did you just offer?

1966
01:31:41,253 --> 01:31:45,293
Speaker 17: Absolutely not. She's her daughter. We spent her very long.

1967
01:31:45,372 --> 01:31:48,253
Speaker 17: It took me a very long time to come a mum,

1968
01:31:48,412 --> 01:31:52,293
Speaker 17: and so these kids were I've always said that our

1969
01:31:52,333 --> 01:31:55,732
Speaker 17: responsibility from the moment they are conceived for the moment

1970
01:31:55,853 --> 01:32:00,852
Speaker 17: I die, and that's not necessary to say they get

1971
01:32:00,893 --> 01:32:03,973
Speaker 17: a hand out everywhere. But we went we told them

1972
01:32:04,013 --> 01:32:06,492
Speaker 17: they had to save something towards it as well. So

1973
01:32:07,612 --> 01:32:12,452
Speaker 17: unfortunately for her, her fiance had their parents paid wedding

1974
01:32:12,572 --> 01:32:16,452
Speaker 17: for so we ended up going pubs and the other

1975
01:32:16,772 --> 01:32:20,572
Speaker 17: parents with the other parents and our daughter and her

1976
01:32:20,812 --> 01:32:24,732
Speaker 17: fiance put in a large sum of money as well,

1977
01:32:24,853 --> 01:32:27,652
Speaker 17: so that they were contributing, so it wasn't all on us.

1978
01:32:28,532 --> 01:32:32,612
Speaker 2: And how was the wedding? Was it a beautiful wonderful day?

1979
01:32:33,492 --> 01:32:34,973
Speaker 17: Yeah, it was a beautiful day. It was over in

1980
01:32:35,093 --> 01:32:38,853
Speaker 17: the Tree the Tree Church in a place called Ohalpo

1981
01:32:38,973 --> 01:32:43,173
Speaker 17: which was in the White Shadow, and it was a lovely,

1982
01:32:43,213 --> 01:32:46,213
Speaker 17: lovely day. And she fortunately didn't turn into a bridezilla,

1983
01:32:46,293 --> 01:32:51,293
Speaker 17: which was always arrested. She looked lovely and her dad

1984
01:32:51,372 --> 01:32:54,253
Speaker 17: walked down the aisle and her brothers and I stood

1985
01:32:54,253 --> 01:32:56,532
Speaker 17: at the top there and just watched them walk down

1986
01:32:56,572 --> 01:32:59,213
Speaker 17: and it was just it was lovely. And so her

1987
01:32:59,492 --> 01:33:01,852
Speaker 17: partner then was now just part of our family as

1988
01:33:01,933 --> 01:33:03,133
Speaker 17: she is with their family.

1989
01:33:03,893 --> 01:33:06,013
Speaker 3: How good, what a beautiful venue? Just said to look

1990
01:33:06,013 --> 01:33:06,652
Speaker 3: at it, stunning.

1991
01:33:07,732 --> 01:33:10,492
Speaker 17: Oh it is done, absolutely saying, And the hosts are

1992
01:33:10,732 --> 01:33:15,532
Speaker 17: just absolutely superb people. Yeah, very welcoming, full of lots

1993
01:33:15,572 --> 01:33:16,853
Speaker 17: of information, Sony.

1994
01:33:16,612 --> 01:33:18,293
Speaker 8: Young brides go and do it.

1995
01:33:18,933 --> 01:33:20,612
Speaker 2: Good on you well, thank you so much for bringing

1996
01:33:20,652 --> 01:33:23,892
Speaker 2: in and sharing your story. How dare you? Matt says

1997
01:33:23,933 --> 01:33:27,132
Speaker 2: this text. It's usually the wife that creates the nasty

1998
01:33:27,253 --> 01:33:32,972
Speaker 2: pongs in the chemical setup in the mobile homes. It's

1999
01:33:33,013 --> 01:33:34,452
Speaker 2: not the husband's dang it.

2000
01:33:34,692 --> 01:33:36,692
Speaker 3: I don't think it's a gender thing. There's there's one

2001
01:33:37,053 --> 01:33:40,013
Speaker 3: one person who takes it too far, and in the

2002
01:33:40,053 --> 01:33:42,812
Speaker 3: incident you're involved in, it was you, Matt Heath. But

2003
01:33:42,973 --> 01:33:45,333
Speaker 3: thank you very much for those texts. Keep them coming through.

2004
01:33:45,372 --> 01:33:47,692
Speaker 3: A nine two ninety two back in a mow, we're

2005
01:33:47,732 --> 01:33:50,452
Speaker 3: talking about empty nest adjustments. It's twenty six.

2006
01:33:50,412 --> 01:33:57,772
Speaker 1: Past three, Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh, eight

2007
01:33:57,893 --> 01:34:00,173
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty ten eighty on youth talks'd be.

2008
01:34:00,452 --> 01:34:02,532
Speaker 3: Twenty nine past three and we're talking about becoming an

2009
01:34:02,572 --> 01:34:05,453
Speaker 3: empty nest. How big of the adjustment was the adjustment

2010
01:34:05,612 --> 01:34:08,013
Speaker 3: for you? And did you have plans in place for

2011
01:34:08,133 --> 01:34:11,053
Speaker 3: where the last kids flew the coop? So to speak?

2012
01:34:11,093 --> 01:34:13,133
Speaker 3: O eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

2013
01:34:13,173 --> 01:34:15,133
Speaker 3: to call. A couple of texts coming through on nine

2014
01:34:15,253 --> 01:34:18,372
Speaker 3: two nine two. This one giddy guys, My eldest moved

2015
01:34:18,412 --> 01:34:20,412
Speaker 3: out in the morning. My wife had the computer and

2016
01:34:20,452 --> 01:34:23,133
Speaker 3: office set up by the afternoon, and I dragged my

2017
01:34:23,253 --> 01:34:25,652
Speaker 3: electronic drum set out of the shed and put it

2018
01:34:25,732 --> 01:34:28,692
Speaker 3: in the mezzanine above. The next day. If he comes back,

2019
01:34:28,893 --> 01:34:31,173
Speaker 3: he'll just have to sleep on the floor. Good times

2020
01:34:31,213 --> 01:34:31,652
Speaker 3: from Greg.

2021
01:34:32,133 --> 01:34:35,213
Speaker 2: This is a good point. This all starts when they're

2022
01:34:35,253 --> 01:34:38,412
Speaker 2: fourteen years old. They start distancing themselves from you. It's

2023
01:34:38,452 --> 01:34:41,012
Speaker 2: not just when they leave. They've already left before they leave.

2024
01:34:41,692 --> 01:34:44,852
Speaker 2: That's true. They do start getting you know, if you've

2025
01:34:44,853 --> 01:34:46,572
Speaker 2: done the right job of bringing up your kids, then

2026
01:34:46,612 --> 01:34:48,372
Speaker 2: they start to get more and more independent as they

2027
01:34:48,452 --> 01:34:51,852
Speaker 2: get older. Yeah, so that you see them less, don't you.

2028
01:34:52,333 --> 01:34:54,372
Speaker 3: It's a gradual thing rather than all at once were

2029
01:34:54,372 --> 01:34:55,133
Speaker 3: at the band aid off.

2030
01:34:55,293 --> 01:34:55,452
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2031
01:34:55,532 --> 01:34:58,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, they start and they out a bit long before

2032
01:34:58,372 --> 01:35:00,612
Speaker 2: they leave. They're just sort of a sort of six

2033
01:35:00,732 --> 01:35:04,093
Speaker 2: foot four sort of presence in your house that sort

2034
01:35:04,133 --> 01:35:07,812
Speaker 2: of comes and goes, blunders and opens the fridge. You

2035
01:35:07,893 --> 01:35:10,652
Speaker 2: know what's funny is when you go back to your parents'

2036
01:35:10,692 --> 01:35:12,692
Speaker 2: house for years and years and years, and I see

2037
01:35:12,732 --> 01:35:14,372
Speaker 2: that with my kids. As soon as you walk on

2038
01:35:14,452 --> 01:35:17,612
Speaker 2: the door, you automatically go and open the fridge instantly,

2039
01:35:17,893 --> 01:35:20,893
Speaker 2: because you're just programmed to walk into the house and

2040
01:35:20,933 --> 01:35:22,293
Speaker 2: open the fridge and see what's in there to eat.

2041
01:35:22,412 --> 01:35:22,572
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2042
01:35:22,772 --> 01:35:25,012
Speaker 3: Still to this day, if we're coming home for Christmas,

2043
01:35:25,053 --> 01:35:26,893
Speaker 3: Mum will buy extra cheese because you know, is the

2044
01:35:26,933 --> 01:35:28,772
Speaker 3: first thing I do, grab the block of cheese and

2045
01:35:28,812 --> 01:35:29,612
Speaker 3: cut it off.

2046
01:35:29,812 --> 01:35:33,692
Speaker 2: Thanks mom, Mary, welcome to the show.

2047
01:35:34,013 --> 01:35:35,133
Speaker 3: Oh we just lost her.

2048
01:35:35,933 --> 01:35:38,933
Speaker 2: Mary's lost. Actually sorry Mary, and sorry everyone. We've got

2049
01:35:39,013 --> 01:35:39,772
Speaker 2: to go to the news headlines.

2050
01:35:39,893 --> 01:35:42,253
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, but that was a great discussion. Thank

2051
01:35:42,333 --> 01:35:44,852
Speaker 3: you very much to everyone who text and called on

2052
01:35:44,973 --> 01:35:48,572
Speaker 3: that one. Coming up after the headlines. It's tomorrow Black

2053
01:35:48,772 --> 01:35:52,013
Speaker 3: Friday sales. You can't escape it. It's everywhere. And I

2054
01:35:52,133 --> 01:35:54,333
Speaker 3: know there was something you were roing up, Matt for

2055
01:35:54,412 --> 01:35:55,612
Speaker 3: your Black Friday sale?

2056
01:35:55,732 --> 01:35:55,892
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2057
01:35:55,933 --> 01:35:59,372
Speaker 2: Absolutely. How do you feel about Black Friday? Is it

2058
01:35:59,412 --> 01:36:02,852
Speaker 2: a real thing? Do you you excited about it? Are

2059
01:36:02,853 --> 01:36:05,532
Speaker 2: you embracing it? Do you think it's just some kind

2060
01:36:05,612 --> 01:36:08,652
Speaker 2: of tricky, dicky thing that's imported from America? Of course

2061
01:36:08,692 --> 01:36:10,852
Speaker 2: we don't have Thanksgiving here, No, So what do you

2062
01:36:10,893 --> 01:36:13,892
Speaker 2: think about? What do you think about Black Friday? One

2063
01:36:13,933 --> 01:36:17,093
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number? Nine nine

2064
01:36:17,093 --> 01:36:17,692
Speaker 2: two is the text?

2065
01:36:17,973 --> 01:36:20,772
Speaker 3: Headlines with rolling coming up back very shortly. It is

2066
01:36:20,812 --> 01:36:21,692
Speaker 3: twenty nine to four.

2067
01:36:23,893 --> 01:36:27,173
Speaker 1: JUS talks it'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis.

2068
01:36:27,372 --> 01:36:30,812
Speaker 15: It's no trouble with a blue bubble. A forestry block

2069
01:36:31,053 --> 01:36:34,572
Speaker 15: is on fire in Southland near Matoda. It's still spreading,

2070
01:36:34,812 --> 01:36:38,333
Speaker 15: closing a section of State Highway ninety six. Seven fire

2071
01:36:38,372 --> 01:36:41,412
Speaker 15: trucks and two helicopters are battling the blaze, which started

2072
01:36:41,532 --> 01:36:44,612
Speaker 15: just after two. A fire is still burning at a

2073
01:36:44,732 --> 01:36:48,532
Speaker 15: large apartment complex in Hong Kong is likely the country's

2074
01:36:48,612 --> 01:36:51,972
Speaker 15: worst since the nineteen sixties. It is killed at least

2075
01:36:52,093 --> 01:36:55,732
Speaker 15: forty four two hundred and seventy nine others are unaccounted for.

2076
01:36:56,253 --> 01:37:01,213
Speaker 15: Police suspect gross negligence and have arrested three construction company executives.

2077
01:37:02,333 --> 01:37:04,852
Speaker 15: The Minister in charge says Health end Z is too

2078
01:37:05,053 --> 01:37:09,652
Speaker 15: centralized and it's frustrating local providers. Simeon Brown has ordered

2079
01:37:09,692 --> 01:37:12,812
Speaker 15: bosses to present a devolution plan by the end of

2080
01:37:12,893 --> 01:37:16,452
Speaker 15: the year. A Waki Teppo High school student has been

2081
01:37:16,492 --> 01:37:18,932
Speaker 15: injured in a fall on a school camp at Branches

2082
01:37:18,973 --> 01:37:23,933
Speaker 15: Station near Queenstown and been helicopter to hospital. The microphone

2083
01:37:24,013 --> 01:37:28,932
Speaker 15: on a NASA rover's the microphone on a NASA rover

2084
01:37:29,372 --> 01:37:33,652
Speaker 15: has picked up many lightning electrical discharges on Mars from

2085
01:37:33,933 --> 01:37:38,333
Speaker 15: dust devils that regularly roll across the planet. Meet the

2086
01:37:38,412 --> 01:37:42,612
Speaker 15: twenty one year old multimillionaire, chasing business and professional rugby dreams.

2087
01:37:43,013 --> 01:37:45,652
Speaker 15: You can see this and more from Society Insider at

2088
01:37:45,893 --> 01:37:49,012
Speaker 15: Zaid Herald Premium. Back to Matteth and Tyler Adams.

2089
01:37:49,173 --> 01:37:53,252
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Ray Lane. So tomorrow is officially

2090
01:37:53,372 --> 01:37:56,213
Speaker 3: Black Friday in New Zealand, and you can't really turn

2091
01:37:56,253 --> 01:37:59,973
Speaker 3: around without seeing a Black Friday advert this week, And

2092
01:38:00,093 --> 01:38:03,732
Speaker 3: it obviously was important from America, but it's picked up

2093
01:38:03,772 --> 01:38:06,892
Speaker 3: speed among retailers since first immigrating over here more than

2094
01:38:06,933 --> 01:38:09,572
Speaker 3: a decade ago. So we want to hear from you.

2095
01:38:09,853 --> 01:38:11,652
Speaker 3: Is this a big thing for you to actually find

2096
01:38:11,772 --> 01:38:14,133
Speaker 3: proper good deals in Black Friday? No doubt about it.

2097
01:38:14,173 --> 01:38:17,532
Speaker 3: In America you get some incredible deals, so to the

2098
01:38:17,572 --> 01:38:20,253
Speaker 3: point where it almost causes riots when they went in

2099
01:38:20,293 --> 01:38:22,452
Speaker 3: outside to get a TV for a buck. I just

2100
01:38:22,532 --> 01:38:24,492
Speaker 3: don't know if you see those sort of same deals

2101
01:38:24,572 --> 01:38:26,972
Speaker 3: in New Zealand. I'm sure there are really good deals

2102
01:38:27,013 --> 01:38:30,093
Speaker 3: out there, but wait, you see a level.

2103
01:38:30,173 --> 01:38:33,412
Speaker 2: You're seeing forty sixty percent deals out there. An yeah,

2104
01:38:33,532 --> 01:38:36,532
Speaker 2: I mean my phone's just firing up with Black Friday

2105
01:38:36,612 --> 01:38:38,572
Speaker 2: deals that are coming through and it's really blown up.

2106
01:38:38,572 --> 01:38:40,852
Speaker 2: I mean, how recently did it start blowing up in

2107
01:38:40,853 --> 01:38:42,333
Speaker 2: New Zealand? Has it been about five years?

2108
01:38:43,572 --> 01:38:46,213
Speaker 3: It got imported from America ten years ago it started

2109
01:38:46,253 --> 01:38:48,452
Speaker 3: in New Zealand. But you're right, it's really ramped up

2110
01:38:48,452 --> 01:38:50,652
Speaker 3: in the last five years, and I think more than

2111
01:38:50,732 --> 01:38:53,253
Speaker 3: ever this year. It is one of those things that

2112
01:38:53,372 --> 01:38:55,692
Speaker 3: retailers need to lean heavily on because it's been a

2113
01:38:55,732 --> 01:38:58,093
Speaker 3: tough year, tough year for retailers. So something like Black

2114
01:38:58,093 --> 01:39:00,532
Speaker 3: Friday comes along if they can get more people through

2115
01:39:00,572 --> 01:39:01,612
Speaker 3: the doors ahead of Christmas.

2116
01:39:02,133 --> 01:39:04,492
Speaker 2: Well, this Texas is Black Friday is awesome. Why doesn't

2117
01:39:04,893 --> 01:39:07,772
Speaker 2: people like Why doesn't people like paying less for stuff?

2118
01:39:08,333 --> 01:39:11,572
Speaker 2: These people are claiming about what if you want something

2119
01:39:11,572 --> 01:39:14,772
Speaker 2: and it's cheaper, what's the problem. Whereas this Texas says

2120
01:39:14,812 --> 01:39:16,732
Speaker 2: we are not America, we are in New Zealand. Wait

2121
01:39:16,853 --> 01:39:19,692
Speaker 2: until Christmas, you gouls. I don't get there, So what

2122
01:39:19,732 --> 01:39:21,532
Speaker 2: do you mean, wait till Christmas? So Christmas is a

2123
01:39:21,572 --> 01:39:24,052
Speaker 2: totally different thing. So Christmas is kind of the opposite.

2124
01:39:24,253 --> 01:39:27,652
Speaker 2: So leading up to Christmas there's not really sales. If anything,

2125
01:39:28,452 --> 01:39:30,173
Speaker 2: things are full price up to Christmas. So this is

2126
01:39:30,372 --> 01:39:34,612
Speaker 2: a little blast of sales before you hit December when

2127
01:39:34,732 --> 01:39:37,852
Speaker 2: things go full Christmas because the retailers know that people,

2128
01:39:38,572 --> 01:39:41,053
Speaker 2: a lot of people need to buy and spend in

2129
01:39:41,133 --> 01:39:45,173
Speaker 2: December for Christmas, right definitely, so they've got guaranteed sales there. Yeah,

2130
01:39:45,253 --> 01:39:47,572
Speaker 2: you know, up to a point if they've got good products.

2131
01:39:48,213 --> 01:39:52,572
Speaker 2: But Black Friday, my understanding is that this is just

2132
01:39:52,893 --> 01:39:55,652
Speaker 2: a retail blast and maybe it's a way to clear

2133
01:39:55,692 --> 01:39:58,053
Speaker 2: stock yep, leading it to Christmas. I don't know that

2134
01:39:58,133 --> 01:39:58,452
Speaker 2: as well.

2135
01:39:58,652 --> 01:40:00,532
Speaker 3: I think it's a way to reward people who are

2136
01:40:00,572 --> 01:40:03,213
Speaker 3: onto it when it comes to their Christmas shopping, rather

2137
01:40:03,293 --> 01:40:05,013
Speaker 3: than people like me that leave it kind of till

2138
01:40:05,013 --> 01:40:06,492
Speaker 3: the last day. But can you hear from you on

2139
01:40:06,652 --> 01:40:09,253
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty I've purchased something with

2140
01:40:09,333 --> 01:40:12,053
Speaker 3: the old Black Friday sale? What was the saving? Really liked?

2141
01:40:12,093 --> 01:40:14,772
Speaker 3: You get into it? And is it just crazy in

2142
01:40:14,893 --> 01:40:16,892
Speaker 3: some of these stores that are offering I will say

2143
01:40:16,933 --> 01:40:19,772
Speaker 3: I went into pebe Tech earlier in the week and

2144
01:40:19,853 --> 01:40:22,052
Speaker 3: they started their Black Friday sale a little bit earlier.

2145
01:40:22,133 --> 01:40:24,732
Speaker 3: It was chaos, absolutely chaos. At nine o'clock on a

2146
01:40:24,933 --> 01:40:27,013
Speaker 3: Tuesday morning. I think that was the first day of it,

2147
01:40:27,013 --> 01:40:28,572
Speaker 3: and I didn't realize because I needed to pick up

2148
01:40:28,612 --> 01:40:31,372
Speaker 3: some speakers for the barbecue, and I felt for the

2149
01:40:31,412 --> 01:40:33,972
Speaker 3: staff man. It was craziness. There was people ripping things

2150
01:40:34,053 --> 01:40:35,692
Speaker 3: off the shelves, but there were some good savings.

2151
01:40:36,293 --> 01:40:40,253
Speaker 2: Black Friday started in New Zealand around twenty thirteen was

2152
01:40:40,253 --> 01:40:42,093
Speaker 2: when it started first being pushed, so it's been over

2153
01:40:42,173 --> 01:40:45,012
Speaker 2: ten years since it's been in New Zealand. In twenty fifteen,

2154
01:40:45,812 --> 01:40:48,772
Speaker 2: the Warehouse Noel Lemmings and Harvey Norman were the first

2155
01:40:48,853 --> 01:40:51,093
Speaker 2: major stores to offer Black Friday sales, so it's been

2156
01:40:51,133 --> 01:40:53,293
Speaker 2: around a while. By two thousand and eight, they were

2157
01:40:53,372 --> 01:40:57,772
Speaker 2: joined by Farmers, JVI, High Fi, Briscoes and Rebel Sport. Paymark,

2158
01:40:57,812 --> 01:41:01,653
Speaker 2: which processes around seventy five percent of New Zealand's electronic transactions,

2159
01:41:01,692 --> 01:41:05,492
Speaker 2: recorded two hundred and nineteen million dollars of transactions on

2160
01:41:05,532 --> 01:41:08,253
Speaker 2: Black Friday in twenty seventeen, up ten percent for the

2161
01:41:08,372 --> 01:41:09,972
Speaker 2: previous years, so it's been growing and growing.

2162
01:41:10,093 --> 01:41:12,452
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you get fizzed up about Black Friday, give

2163
01:41:12,492 --> 01:41:14,213
Speaker 3: us a call. I eight one hundred eighty ten eighty,

2164
01:41:14,452 --> 01:41:16,692
Speaker 3: or do you think it's just a load of nonsense

2165
01:41:16,973 --> 01:41:18,532
Speaker 3: and you'll wait till a little bit later in the

2166
01:41:18,612 --> 01:41:21,253
Speaker 3: year to get your Christmas shopping done. Give us a

2167
01:41:21,293 --> 01:41:23,253
Speaker 3: bars nine two ninety two is a text number. It

2168
01:41:23,412 --> 01:41:24,253
Speaker 3: is twenty one to four.

2169
01:41:25,133 --> 01:41:28,492
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

2170
01:41:28,853 --> 01:41:32,612
Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tayler Adams afternoons us

2171
01:41:32,692 --> 01:41:33,293
Speaker 1: talks that'd.

2172
01:41:33,173 --> 01:41:35,412
Speaker 3: Be It is nineteen to four and we're talking about

2173
01:41:35,412 --> 01:41:38,612
Speaker 3: Black Friday officially on tomorrow. Sumer retailers have started at

2174
01:41:38,612 --> 01:41:41,173
Speaker 3: a bit early. You're fizzing up about Black Friday? Or

2175
01:41:41,293 --> 01:41:43,852
Speaker 3: is it just marketing nonsense?

2176
01:41:43,933 --> 01:41:44,093
Speaker 15: I e.

2177
01:41:44,133 --> 01:41:45,372
Speaker 3: One hundred and eighty ten eighty.

2178
01:41:45,452 --> 01:41:49,092
Speaker 2: You idiots in New Zealand spending your money on Christmas.

2179
01:41:49,973 --> 01:41:53,372
Speaker 2: We go in on Boxing Day and get presents. So

2180
01:41:53,532 --> 01:41:56,293
Speaker 2: silly to celebrate on the twenty fifth. Why just give

2181
01:41:56,333 --> 01:41:59,972
Speaker 2: presents on the twenty seventh and save money? So dumb? Well,

2182
01:42:00,053 --> 01:42:05,053
Speaker 2: hang on a minute, but Christmas is Christmas, so you well,

2183
01:42:05,053 --> 01:42:06,452
Speaker 2: are you gonna go to see your kids? You get

2184
01:42:06,572 --> 01:42:09,892
Speaker 2: no presents just so we save money, We're gonna We're

2185
01:42:09,893 --> 01:42:12,012
Speaker 2: gonna have presents on the twenty seven out.

2186
01:42:12,133 --> 01:42:14,213
Speaker 3: I'm as sooly as they come. But even I wouldn't

2187
01:42:14,213 --> 01:42:15,933
Speaker 3: go that far. I wouldn't say now, just you just

2188
01:42:15,973 --> 01:42:17,812
Speaker 3: got to wait a day until I get a sweet

2189
01:42:17,893 --> 01:42:19,772
Speaker 3: deal on Boxing Day and then you can get your

2190
01:42:19,812 --> 01:42:22,532
Speaker 3: Christmas present. No, no, I'll be laughed out of the family.

2191
01:42:22,732 --> 01:42:25,612
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that you're missing the spirit at Christmas. There

2192
01:42:25,893 --> 01:42:28,693
Speaker 2: is that the Grinch must be. Have we got Are

2193
01:42:28,732 --> 01:42:32,293
Speaker 2: you green? Are you green and hairy? Do you live

2194
01:42:32,372 --> 01:42:35,852
Speaker 2: up a mountain with a dog, because because that's grinchy,

2195
01:42:36,173 --> 01:42:39,372
Speaker 2: that's a that's a grinchy, grinchy attitude. And look, Santa

2196
01:42:39,412 --> 01:42:40,052
Speaker 2: will come anyway.

2197
01:42:40,372 --> 01:42:42,333
Speaker 3: Yep, Santa wolves always come because.

2198
01:42:42,572 --> 01:42:45,612
Speaker 2: Sander's up the down the chimney on the twenty fifth mate.

2199
01:42:45,532 --> 01:42:47,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, So you don't need to worry about it.

2200
01:42:47,732 --> 01:42:50,213
Speaker 3: It's good ticks kidday. Guys. You know it's a lot

2201
01:42:50,253 --> 01:42:56,412
Speaker 3: of nonsense when Walworths is doing Black Friday deals on broccoli, broccoli,

2202
01:42:56,652 --> 01:43:00,372
Speaker 3: broccoli Black Friday special on broccoli at Woolworths. Oh hey,

2203
01:43:00,452 --> 01:43:02,213
Speaker 3: come on, will worse? You can do better than that.

2204
01:43:02,412 --> 01:43:05,892
Speaker 3: You can't just be having a discounted broccoli on Black Friday.

2205
01:43:06,372 --> 01:43:08,253
Speaker 2: Well, broccoli is the superfood, isn't it.

2206
01:43:08,452 --> 01:43:11,013
Speaker 3: I love broccoli, but is that the best that they've got.

2207
01:43:11,213 --> 01:43:12,452
Speaker 3: They're just gonna have a Black Friday.

2208
01:43:12,812 --> 01:43:15,333
Speaker 2: I mean, well it might be broccoli and other things,

2209
01:43:16,173 --> 01:43:19,053
Speaker 2: it might not just be broccoli. Yeah, how much off?

2210
01:43:20,253 --> 01:43:22,612
Speaker 2: How much off broccoli? And by a bit of.

2211
01:43:22,612 --> 01:43:25,053
Speaker 3: Double check what their actual Black Friday dea was? You know, like,

2212
01:43:25,133 --> 01:43:26,932
Speaker 3: if it's twenty cents for a head of broccoli, then

2213
01:43:27,133 --> 01:43:31,173
Speaker 3: I've laughed done fairly two bucks each.

2214
01:43:32,013 --> 01:43:35,852
Speaker 2: Get okay, get someone from broccoli for Christmas tomorrow and

2215
01:43:36,013 --> 01:43:41,093
Speaker 2: put it in the stocking, saying broccoli two dollars. Yeah,

2216
01:43:42,452 --> 01:43:45,932
Speaker 2: that's a good deal. Actually, two broccolis for two dollars fifty?

2217
01:43:46,732 --> 01:43:49,293
Speaker 2: Is that a Black Friday sale at or worse?

2218
01:43:49,532 --> 01:43:51,692
Speaker 3: So that's a saving of a dollar fifty. It's not

2219
01:43:51,812 --> 01:43:52,772
Speaker 3: bad percentage wise.

2220
01:43:52,933 --> 01:43:56,732
Speaker 2: Two heads of broccoli. I've got a problem with brocoli.

2221
01:43:56,772 --> 01:43:57,612
Speaker 2: What do you do with the stork?

2222
01:43:58,093 --> 01:44:00,612
Speaker 3: Oh you eat it? You finally, well you don't finally

2223
01:44:00,692 --> 01:44:02,412
Speaker 3: chop it, but you put it into little slices, the

2224
01:44:02,532 --> 01:44:03,652
Speaker 3: beautiful and then roast them up.

2225
01:44:04,452 --> 01:44:06,852
Speaker 2: The sticks is really yeah, it's amazing.

2226
01:44:06,893 --> 01:44:08,772
Speaker 3: If you're not done that, you don't throw away the stork,

2227
01:44:09,853 --> 01:44:12,173
Speaker 3: the little end of it, so you just right on

2228
01:44:12,372 --> 01:44:14,452
Speaker 3: maybe a centimeter ride at the bottom. Cut that off

2229
01:44:14,452 --> 01:44:16,173
Speaker 3: because it's too dry. So then you get into the

2230
01:44:16,253 --> 01:44:19,932
Speaker 3: juicy stork. And then you just thinly slice it into circles, yes,

2231
01:44:20,293 --> 01:44:22,452
Speaker 3: and then just put it on to a baking sheet,

2232
01:44:22,652 --> 01:44:25,052
Speaker 3: roast that up. They like broccoli chips. They're amazing.

2233
01:44:25,333 --> 01:44:25,772
Speaker 2: How good?

2234
01:44:25,933 --> 01:44:26,133
Speaker 8: Yeah?

2235
01:44:26,372 --> 01:44:26,772
Speaker 3: So good?

2236
01:44:27,293 --> 01:44:29,372
Speaker 2: Are they called florins the end of a broccoli?

2237
01:44:29,492 --> 01:44:29,652
Speaker 8: Oh?

2238
01:44:29,772 --> 01:44:30,253
Speaker 3: Good question?

2239
01:44:30,372 --> 01:44:30,852
Speaker 2: Florens?

2240
01:44:31,692 --> 01:44:34,173
Speaker 3: No flores's are the actual the tree like part of

2241
01:44:34,213 --> 01:44:35,652
Speaker 3: the broccoli. That's the floress, isn't it.

2242
01:44:35,812 --> 01:44:37,572
Speaker 2: Yeah, So what I'm talking about is what I do

2243
01:44:37,732 --> 01:44:40,612
Speaker 2: is I just cut down there through the tree branch type,

2244
01:44:40,652 --> 01:44:42,452
Speaker 2: and then all the broccolis bits that, and I use that.

2245
01:44:42,532 --> 01:44:44,812
Speaker 2: But and then i'mhipping that bloody stalk out.

2246
01:44:44,893 --> 01:44:47,972
Speaker 3: Mate, you'll waist you're wasting the goods here broccoli chips

2247
01:44:48,213 --> 01:44:50,932
Speaker 3: like an idiot. Honestly, give it a crack. Oh, one

2248
01:44:50,973 --> 01:44:52,412
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call

2249
01:44:52,452 --> 01:44:54,492
Speaker 3: if you found a good deal. Love to hear from you.

2250
01:44:54,692 --> 01:44:56,812
Speaker 2: I use Black Friday as a market in which to

2251
01:44:56,893 --> 01:44:59,372
Speaker 2: get all my shopping done. Then it's all sorted, and

2252
01:44:59,452 --> 01:45:02,372
Speaker 2: I have three quarter weeks leading to Christmas in which

2253
01:45:02,372 --> 01:45:04,333
Speaker 2: I spend my time drinking beers at the beach from

2254
01:45:04,452 --> 01:45:05,333
Speaker 2: Charles Nice.

2255
01:45:05,853 --> 01:45:10,293
Speaker 3: So yeah, this one see is, guys, I swear it's

2256
01:45:10,333 --> 01:45:12,972
Speaker 3: been Black Friday deals for the last three Fridays. They

2257
01:45:13,173 --> 01:45:14,852
Speaker 3: start earlier and earlier the old Black Friday.

2258
01:45:14,893 --> 01:45:15,293
Speaker 2: It's a week.

2259
01:45:15,532 --> 01:45:20,452
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is a minimum. Yeah, gooday, guys. I did

2260
01:45:20,492 --> 01:45:23,293
Speaker 3: get an email from AMP saying they we're having a

2261
01:45:23,333 --> 01:45:26,532
Speaker 3: Black Friday day sales. So even insurance companies get in

2262
01:45:26,652 --> 01:45:26,772
Speaker 3: on it.

2263
01:45:27,213 --> 01:45:29,412
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Well, I'm just looking at the window there

2264
01:45:29,452 --> 01:45:31,692
Speaker 2: and the Herald's got a Black Friday deal for signing

2265
01:45:31,772 --> 01:45:32,653
Speaker 2: up for subscriptions.

2266
01:45:32,893 --> 01:45:33,452
Speaker 3: It's a good deal.

2267
01:45:33,692 --> 01:45:35,732
Speaker 2: Get onto that. So the newspapers are doing it. Yeah,

2268
01:45:36,093 --> 01:45:38,133
Speaker 2: is that seventy five bucks or something for the year.

2269
01:45:38,333 --> 01:45:40,253
Speaker 2: I'm not sure I should be careful of Wait, the

2270
01:45:40,293 --> 01:45:41,572
Speaker 2: billboard just outside of windows.

2271
01:45:41,732 --> 01:45:43,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't give out too good of a deal.

2272
01:45:43,612 --> 01:45:47,892
Speaker 2: I'm currently looking at John O, Ben and Meghan. Now

2273
01:45:47,933 --> 01:45:49,692
Speaker 2: I've got a bit of Whitney Houston. I just wait

2274
01:45:49,732 --> 01:45:51,692
Speaker 2: for a second. I'll get met you on that. Cases.

2275
01:45:51,732 --> 01:45:53,893
Speaker 2: I tell my teens to find things they want for

2276
01:45:54,013 --> 01:45:58,372
Speaker 2: Christmas at the Black Friday sales. I purchased them, put

2277
01:45:58,452 --> 01:46:01,213
Speaker 2: them away and then get them out of Christmas it's

2278
01:46:01,213 --> 01:46:02,412
Speaker 2: a fantastic way to save money.

2279
01:46:02,572 --> 01:46:05,213
Speaker 3: That is good. Oh, e one hundred eighty ten eighty

2280
01:46:05,492 --> 01:46:08,212
Speaker 3: is the number to call on this one. Great broccoli

2281
01:46:08,333 --> 01:46:11,092
Speaker 3: stalks into the soup. See you you've been wasting your brocoli?

2282
01:46:11,173 --> 01:46:14,652
Speaker 2: Man, superfood are like great as in gr ate?

2283
01:46:14,893 --> 01:46:15,093
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2284
01:46:15,173 --> 01:46:15,372
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2285
01:46:15,692 --> 01:46:16,412
Speaker 2: And to what soup?

2286
01:46:17,013 --> 01:46:20,133
Speaker 3: Just broccoli soup. I guess it all turns out the

2287
01:46:20,173 --> 01:46:20,932
Speaker 3: same way in the end.

2288
01:46:22,253 --> 01:46:24,812
Speaker 2: Ah, that's a disgusting center joke that someone sent him.

2289
01:46:25,452 --> 01:46:26,293
Speaker 3: We might read it out.

2290
01:46:26,492 --> 01:46:28,452
Speaker 2: They might have to sent her a little bit, all right.

2291
01:46:28,572 --> 01:46:30,492
Speaker 3: Taking your calls on O eight hundred and eighty ten

2292
01:46:30,532 --> 01:46:33,492
Speaker 3: eighty if you've got on the Black Friday bandwag and

2293
01:46:33,612 --> 01:46:35,572
Speaker 3: love to hear what you've actually purchased and whether the

2294
01:46:35,692 --> 01:46:37,812
Speaker 3: deal was actually worth it or is it just a

2295
01:46:37,893 --> 01:46:41,572
Speaker 3: bunch of marketing nonsense? Nine two nine two is that text?

2296
01:46:41,652 --> 01:46:43,772
Speaker 3: It is fourteen to four, the.

2297
01:46:43,893 --> 01:46:47,812
Speaker 1: Big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and everything

2298
01:46:47,893 --> 01:46:51,532
Speaker 1: in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks.

2299
01:46:51,572 --> 01:46:51,852
Speaker 5: It'd be.

2300
01:46:53,412 --> 01:46:56,612
Speaker 3: Very good afternoon to you. So Black Friday will be

2301
01:46:56,652 --> 01:46:59,612
Speaker 3: officially upon us tomorrow, but most retailers have been offering

2302
01:46:59,692 --> 01:47:02,733
Speaker 3: the discounts for the last week or so, and Auckland's

2303
01:47:02,772 --> 01:47:05,452
Speaker 3: busiest shopping destinations are bracing for a surge and traffic

2304
01:47:05,572 --> 01:47:09,532
Speaker 3: ahead of Tomorrow's Shopers have been urged to plan their travel.

2305
01:47:09,572 --> 01:47:12,173
Speaker 3: With malls like Sylvia Park and Newmarket already beginning to

2306
01:47:12,253 --> 01:47:15,213
Speaker 3: clog due to the early kickoff of those Black Friday sales,

2307
01:47:15,253 --> 01:47:17,732
Speaker 3: so at has even come to the party here. They said.

2308
01:47:17,853 --> 01:47:20,652
Speaker 3: The city's top shopping hotspots and the surrounding streets aren't

2309
01:47:20,692 --> 01:47:24,732
Speaker 3: expected to begin to clear until after Christmas. Many major

2310
01:47:24,812 --> 01:47:27,932
Speaker 3: events and afterwork celebrations will also be putting extra pressure

2311
01:47:27,973 --> 01:47:30,652
Speaker 3: on the roads, so it is clear that some people

2312
01:47:30,692 --> 01:47:33,372
Speaker 3: are getting pretty excited about the old Black Friday sales.

2313
01:47:33,412 --> 01:47:35,412
Speaker 3: I couldn't think of anything worse than being in a

2314
01:47:35,492 --> 01:47:38,412
Speaker 3: mall like Sylvia Park when you've got half of Auckland

2315
01:47:38,452 --> 01:47:41,572
Speaker 3: in there. That is pure hell. That's the ninth circle

2316
01:47:41,612 --> 01:47:42,093
Speaker 3: of Hell for me.

2317
01:47:42,253 --> 01:47:42,612
Speaker 5: I love it.

2318
01:47:42,933 --> 01:47:45,612
Speaker 2: You love it well, I love it. Leading up to Christmas.

2319
01:47:45,612 --> 01:47:47,452
Speaker 2: I think a big part of Christmas is just going

2320
01:47:47,692 --> 01:47:53,293
Speaker 2: into the hurly burly of shopping malls and shopping when

2321
01:47:53,293 --> 01:47:55,532
Speaker 2: everyone is out there. I find it hugely uplifting that

2322
01:47:55,612 --> 01:47:57,652
Speaker 2: everyone's going out. I see all these people walking around

2323
01:47:57,692 --> 01:47:59,652
Speaker 2: buying presents for their loved ones, and it feels me

2324
01:47:59,732 --> 01:48:02,412
Speaker 2: full of joy. So I like to be out there

2325
01:48:02,452 --> 01:48:03,852
Speaker 2: in the throw of it. I think I amer that

2326
01:48:04,772 --> 01:48:05,732
Speaker 2: into the thrust of it.

2327
01:48:05,853 --> 01:48:07,412
Speaker 3: Yeah, I am a mess of grench when it comes

2328
01:48:07,412 --> 01:48:08,973
Speaker 3: to that sort of stuff. There's quite a lot of

2329
01:48:08,973 --> 01:48:13,372
Speaker 3: people actually texting about broccoli, funnily enough, because you mentioned

2330
01:48:13,412 --> 01:48:17,372
Speaker 3: that you never eat the actual the broccoli stork. Matt

2331
01:48:17,492 --> 01:48:20,372
Speaker 3: tip for keeping your broccoli fresh. Cut a bit off

2332
01:48:20,412 --> 01:48:22,492
Speaker 3: the stalk, then put it in a container with water

2333
01:48:22,572 --> 01:48:24,692
Speaker 3: in the bottom and refrigerate. Keeps your broccoli good for

2334
01:48:24,772 --> 01:48:28,053
Speaker 3: a few days. From ken what So, you got to

2335
01:48:28,412 --> 01:48:30,412
Speaker 3: chop the stalk off, just that little bit right at

2336
01:48:30,412 --> 01:48:32,852
Speaker 3: the bottom, then chuck it in a container with a

2337
01:48:32,893 --> 01:48:35,932
Speaker 3: bit of water, because you know it still gets thirsty

2338
01:48:36,093 --> 01:48:38,333
Speaker 3: even though it's been chopped off. Yes, and then it

2339
01:48:38,372 --> 01:48:41,053
Speaker 3: will keep it fresh apparently in the in the refrigerator

2340
01:48:41,133 --> 01:48:41,932
Speaker 3: for a couple of days.

2341
01:48:42,973 --> 01:48:48,372
Speaker 2: Oh yes, it's better living. I can't involved with that anyway.

2342
01:48:48,652 --> 01:48:51,333
Speaker 2: This business his Jeremies has just bought some cast iron

2343
01:48:51,853 --> 01:48:54,013
Speaker 2: sixty percent off last week. This week it is on

2344
01:48:54,133 --> 01:48:57,532
Speaker 2: Black Friday sol for forty right, so is it?

2345
01:48:58,612 --> 01:48:58,772
Speaker 8: Yeah?

2346
01:48:58,853 --> 01:49:00,612
Speaker 2: Well, so it was a six it was sixty percent

2347
01:49:00,652 --> 01:49:01,973
Speaker 2: off and outstand to a forty percent off.

2348
01:49:02,053 --> 01:49:04,013
Speaker 3: See that's the problem. That's why I can't trust a

2349
01:49:04,053 --> 01:49:06,852
Speaker 3: lot of these Black Friday deals. Is I just have

2350
01:49:07,053 --> 01:49:10,372
Speaker 3: a funny suspicion some of these retailers they wait for

2351
01:49:10,812 --> 01:49:13,652
Speaker 3: something like a Black Black Friday, then they'll drop the

2352
01:49:13,732 --> 01:49:18,173
Speaker 3: price and not tell anybody, and then once Black Friday hits, well, no, sorry,

2353
01:49:18,253 --> 01:49:21,213
Speaker 3: they raise the price. Then when it gets to Black Friday,

2354
01:49:21,253 --> 01:49:23,333
Speaker 3: they'll drop it down and everyone thinks it's a discount,

2355
01:49:23,412 --> 01:49:25,333
Speaker 3: when in reality, what they've done is they've just raised

2356
01:49:25,372 --> 01:49:28,532
Speaker 3: the price just before, so it looks like a discount.

2357
01:49:28,173 --> 01:49:31,293
Speaker 2: But it Isn't there like consumer laws around that that

2358
01:49:31,973 --> 01:49:34,293
Speaker 2: you can't There has to be a reasonable price that

2359
01:49:34,372 --> 01:49:36,253
Speaker 2: it's come down from. Can't they get stung for that,

2360
01:49:36,572 --> 01:49:39,772
Speaker 2: I'd hope. So, yeah, weare house today, forty three inch

2361
01:49:39,853 --> 01:49:42,612
Speaker 2: smart TV for three two six down nearly two hundred dollars.

2362
01:49:43,293 --> 01:49:44,133
Speaker 2: I might buy one.

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01:49:44,853 --> 01:49:47,013
Speaker 3: That's actually a good deal. It's forty three inches, a

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01:49:47,053 --> 01:49:48,293
Speaker 3: little bit small, but it's a good deal.

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01:49:48,812 --> 01:49:50,692
Speaker 2: Next says A better idea with block rely is don't

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01:49:50,772 --> 01:49:54,052
Speaker 2: eat it. Well, you won't like this Black Friday sale.

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01:49:54,093 --> 01:49:56,333
Speaker 2: It were worse where you can get two bloclies for.

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01:49:56,372 --> 01:49:58,572
Speaker 3: Two dofty, shame on you. It's a saving of a dollar.

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01:49:58,612 --> 01:50:01,452
Speaker 3: Fifty oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

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01:50:01,692 --> 01:50:03,133
Speaker 3: number to cool guys.

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01:50:03,253 --> 01:50:05,053
Speaker 2: Boxing Day sales will be going up very soon.

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01:50:05,213 --> 01:50:07,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, don't worry if you missed out on tomorrow.

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01:50:08,372 --> 01:50:10,333
Speaker 2: I'm an artist and I'll be cleaning out the studio

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01:50:10,452 --> 01:50:13,972
Speaker 2: with old artworks tomorrow. All on my Facebook page. Black

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01:50:14,053 --> 01:50:16,732
Speaker 2: Friday Sale Zerrah cart dot coat.

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01:50:16,652 --> 01:50:18,612
Speaker 3: And go check her out. Yeah, if you want to

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01:50:18,612 --> 01:50:19,972
Speaker 3: plug your business, come on through.

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01:50:20,772 --> 01:50:21,012
Speaker 16: Ben.

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01:50:21,133 --> 01:50:22,933
Speaker 3: You've got some deals you've got your eyes on.

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01:50:24,572 --> 01:50:26,732
Speaker 21: Yeah, yeah, I noticed you. The oil is getting a

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01:50:26,772 --> 01:50:30,133
Speaker 21: bit dirty, so yeah. See it's about two hundred bucks

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01:50:30,133 --> 01:50:33,333
Speaker 21: scorel and a filter from you and one hundred bucks

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01:50:33,893 --> 01:50:34,572
Speaker 21: rip at them.

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01:50:35,853 --> 01:50:38,532
Speaker 3: It's a great deal. So they clean your wheels and

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01:50:38,612 --> 01:50:39,412
Speaker 3: then change your oil.

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01:50:39,492 --> 01:50:42,652
Speaker 21: Did you say then the filter and oil?

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01:50:43,173 --> 01:50:43,412
Speaker 6: Ah?

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01:50:43,732 --> 01:50:48,253
Speaker 2: Right, see that's good. So there's all kinds of Black

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01:50:48,293 --> 01:50:51,772
Speaker 2: Friday sales on. It's not just frying pans and Christmas

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01:50:51,853 --> 01:50:55,652
Speaker 2: presents and broccoli broccoli. You can also get oil.

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01:50:55,933 --> 01:50:59,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Some good teachs coming through on nine two

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01:50:59,133 --> 01:50:59,452
Speaker 3: nine two.

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01:50:59,572 --> 01:51:02,213
Speaker 2: The Black Friday sales started literally three to four weeks ago.

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01:51:02,333 --> 01:51:04,333
Speaker 2: Why on earth would you go to a mall tomorrow

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01:51:04,893 --> 01:51:06,532
Speaker 2: Half of the stuff is sold out by now and

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01:51:06,572 --> 01:51:08,973
Speaker 2: won't be getting any cheaper. Well really, you know, well

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01:51:09,053 --> 01:51:11,133
Speaker 2: that's just that's a that's a an a good way

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01:51:11,173 --> 01:51:11,612
Speaker 2: to look at things.

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01:51:11,812 --> 01:51:14,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, this one says, going to goes hunting and fishing

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01:51:14,253 --> 01:51:16,532
Speaker 3: to rapa have a twenty percent of Stony Creek. Say

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01:51:16,532 --> 01:51:18,812
Speaker 3: I went to the counter on got charge full price,

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01:51:19,013 --> 01:51:22,013
Speaker 3: had to don the discount applied after walking out and

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01:51:22,053 --> 01:51:25,492
Speaker 3: looking at my receipt. Happened twice during these sales. Sneaky,

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01:51:26,253 --> 01:51:32,253
Speaker 3: uh Roger, how you doing, mate, I've.

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01:51:32,133 --> 01:51:35,532
Speaker 20: Got a deal going for Unfortunately we didn't get it

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01:51:35,612 --> 01:51:38,612
Speaker 20: ready for Friday because it's a machine, but it'll be

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01:51:38,652 --> 01:51:42,012
Speaker 20: ready for Saturday. We're doing I suppose a black Friday. Saturday,

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01:51:42,772 --> 01:51:47,213
Speaker 20: we're opening a d Yo dog washing machine Anita Bourne

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01:51:47,452 --> 01:51:49,492
Speaker 20: and there'll be a lot of a lot of free

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01:51:49,652 --> 01:51:52,452
Speaker 20: dog washes going mate on there there there.

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01:51:52,652 --> 01:51:56,572
Speaker 2: Like do yourself, do it yourself wash. So you've got

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01:51:56,612 --> 01:51:58,333
Speaker 2: like the tub and then in the hose and that

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01:51:58,532 --> 01:51:58,932
Speaker 2: kind of thing.

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01:51:59,692 --> 01:52:01,412
Speaker 20: Yeah, it's got warm water and you push your button

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01:52:01,452 --> 01:52:05,213
Speaker 20: for shampoo. And conditioner and flea treatment and and then

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01:52:05,253 --> 01:52:09,133
Speaker 20: you got a dog a blow dryer, dry down if.

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01:52:09,053 --> 01:52:11,572
Speaker 3: You never use it are amazing. That's so good.

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01:52:11,652 --> 01:52:14,333
Speaker 20: So we're going to be there at Eastbourne's by the

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01:52:14,372 --> 01:52:17,452
Speaker 20: pool there behind the old towader block and it's opening

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01:52:17,532 --> 01:52:20,173
Speaker 20: and a lot of free giveaways for dog watching on

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01:52:20,213 --> 01:52:22,492
Speaker 20: Saturday morning. Pretty most of the day.

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01:52:22,692 --> 01:52:26,213
Speaker 2: He goes Roger lower Heart. That's a black Saturday dog

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01:52:26,333 --> 01:52:30,133
Speaker 2: cleaning Eastbourne and Wellington. See, whenever I got to clean

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01:52:30,253 --> 01:52:32,772
Speaker 2: my dog Colin, he just senses that we're going to

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01:52:32,853 --> 01:52:34,452
Speaker 2: wash him and he hides under the couch. He just

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01:52:34,532 --> 01:52:36,253
Speaker 2: gets this vibe that he's about to be washed, and

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01:52:36,293 --> 01:52:37,133
Speaker 2: then you can't find him.

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01:52:37,213 --> 01:52:38,892
Speaker 3: Chiefs to physically pick him up and just chuck him

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01:52:38,893 --> 01:52:39,532
Speaker 3: into the shower.

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01:52:39,412 --> 01:52:40,612
Speaker 2: So I might take him down a lower heart.

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01:52:41,133 --> 01:52:41,532
Speaker 16: All right.

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01:52:41,612 --> 01:52:42,892
Speaker 2: That brings us to the end of the show. Thank

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01:52:42,933 --> 01:52:46,133
Speaker 2: you so much for listening everyone. As always, we've loved

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01:52:46,173 --> 01:52:48,213
Speaker 2: our chats today. The podcast will be up in about

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01:52:48,213 --> 01:52:51,852
Speaker 2: an hour. The Pool Homes Poor broadcast of the Heather

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01:52:51,853 --> 01:52:54,692
Speaker 2: of Doopla See Allen will be up next. But right now, Tyler,

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01:52:54,732 --> 01:52:55,572
Speaker 2: why am I playing this song?

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01:52:57,772 --> 01:53:00,973
Speaker 3: I got no idea, I don't know what the song is.

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01:53:01,612 --> 01:53:04,213
Speaker 2: It's love Cats for the Cure, because we talked about cats, oh,

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01:53:05,412 --> 01:53:08,293
Speaker 2: killing feral cats, and how people don't love the feral cat.

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01:53:08,572 --> 01:53:09,452
Speaker 2: What a great choice.

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01:53:09,572 --> 01:53:11,532
Speaker 3: What a great choice? Sounds like a good chune.

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01:53:12,013 --> 01:53:14,093
Speaker 2: Anyway, you've seem busy, so we'll let you go and

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01:53:14,213 --> 01:53:16,932
Speaker 2: talk tomorrow afternoon. Give a taste of Kiwi from us.

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01:53:17,253 --> 01:53:17,772
Speaker 3: Love you guys.

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