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Speaker 1: You're listening to a podcast from News Talk, said B.

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Speaker 1: The big Stories, the leak issues, the big trends, and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. It's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoon,

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Speaker 1: SQUI gooda News Talk sed B.

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Speaker 2: Very good afternoon, Jie. Welcome into the show. Great to

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Speaker 2: have you with us as always. Hope you're doing pretty

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Speaker 2: well if you are in this wonderful country of house.

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Speaker 3: Get I.

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Speaker 4: Matt, Yeah, thanks so much for tuning in. One hundred

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Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty is the number. Nine two nine two

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Speaker 4: is the text number. We're coming to you live from

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Speaker 4: Hamilton today. It's a bit of a surprise visit, as

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Speaker 4: we were saying before. As we're saying before, we were

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Speaker 4: supposed to be in Totongo right now because we're Tyler

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Speaker 4: and I are hosting the Totong of Business Awards tonight.

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Speaker 2: Very much looking forward to that. But what a morning

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Speaker 2: we were supposed to be there. We headed out to

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Speaker 2: the airport early. I arrived. They said, I tried to

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Speaker 2: check in. They're like, nah, no check in. I went

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Speaker 2: to the counter and they see it in New Zealand,

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Speaker 2: SAIDs the flight's been over booked, so you've been put

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Speaker 2: on stand boy, stand by. And I've heard that hemming

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Speaker 2: in America before, but I've never experienced in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: So the flight was booked by you know, the organizers

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Speaker 2: six months ago, a long time ago. And then it's

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Speaker 2: certainly been my app a long time.

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Speaker 4: But then because there were some counseled flights and totong yesterday,

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Speaker 4: they just kick you off. Oversold the flight exactly, and

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Speaker 4: so now you're on standby. Anyway, managed to get on

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Speaker 4: earlier flight. Meet Tyler when he finally finds with the

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Speaker 4: quarruas he was at the wrong one. Took me a while,

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Speaker 4: he didn't know there was a regional one.

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Speaker 2: It was lovely in the regional one.

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Speaker 4: Oh, the regional ones, fantastic, beautiful. They've upgraded it in

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Speaker 4: the last well, probably probably ten years ago now actually,

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Speaker 4: but anyway, that's by the bye. And then the flight

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Speaker 4: hits delayed, delayed, delayed, They found another flight to be

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Speaker 4: by and delayed, delayed, delayed. Get on the flight. They go, oh,

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Speaker 4: we can't take off. We've got ash in the volcanic

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Speaker 4: ash in the air.

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Speaker 2: White Islands. Yeah, I've no good again.

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Speaker 4: So disembark. We go back in, sit in, the sit

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Speaker 4: around for a bunch of hours. Back in everyone's on,

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Speaker 4: We're about to take off and then the pilot comes out,

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Speaker 4: lovely man, and can I just say that the New

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Speaker 4: out and says, I'm so sorry, I am so sorry.

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Speaker 4: I wasn't even supposed to be here. Look at my shirt,

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Speaker 4: it's not even ironed. We're all hands on the pump

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Speaker 2: What happened? Yeah, yeah, yeah, so folks, I was sitting

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Speaker 4: And then we were kicked off and then we're like,

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Speaker 4: our show plus get to Totong and to do the awards.

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Speaker 4: So I came up with the brilliant plan. I'll get

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Speaker 2: Whatever it takes. And there'll be no iron shirts. I

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Speaker 4: No, oh, we won't have iron shirts. No.

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Speaker 4: No one's got iron shirts today. So if there's any

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Speaker 4: patched together a studio in Hamilton, blame White Islands. Beautiful studio,

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Speaker 2: Some of the soundproofing is chipping away a little bit.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, lovely to be in here. Smells nice, smells lovely,

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Speaker 2: good place, Hamilton. Right on to today's show after three o'clock.

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Speaker 2: We won't ever talk about green washing. This is after

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Speaker 4: this isn't making any difference at allah. Yeah, greenwashing. It's

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Speaker 2: Yep, terrible. Looking forward to your thoughts on that one

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Speaker 2: just heard this in the news retail new Zealand says

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Speaker 2: expanding citizens arrest powers under the Crime's Amendment Bill would

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Speaker 2: increase safety risks rather than reduce crime. It's in front

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Speaker 2: warning this could encourage offenders to arm themselves, putting staff

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I don't know. This is this whole issue

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Speaker 4: that this catastrophizing that there's going to be some kind

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Speaker 4: life that with the infantilization of New Zealand, no one

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Speaker 4: You're not going to have people just beating the crap

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Speaker 4: give some, you know, have some, give some help to

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Speaker 4: people that are in bad situations with theft and what

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Speaker 4: the stealing. The people that aren't doing the stealing are

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Speaker 2: It's about protection, right because I think that's happening anyway.

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Speaker 2: But right now, this is the problem, is that anybody

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Speaker 4: Anytime we try and do anything, it's just catastrophizing. It's like, no,

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Speaker 4: it'll be vigilante justice. We're bringing more violence into the stores. No,

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Speaker 4: it might work as a deterrent, and it might. It

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Speaker 2: Yeah, looking forward to that after two o'clock and keen

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Speaker 2: on your thoughts them Right now, let's have a chat

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Speaker 2: about Air New Zealand says you would have seen more

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Speaker 2: bad news for the airline, announcing it will cut some

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Speaker 2: due to the conflict in a RAN Chief executive Nick

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Speaker 2: Hill Ravashanka says about one thousand and one one hundred

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Speaker 2: flights will be consolidated over the next six to eight weeks,

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Speaker 2: affecting around forty four thousand customers. That means roughly five

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Speaker 4: The stick says, you guys are a bunch of whiners.

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Speaker 4: You can't blame Air New Zealand for a volcano exploding

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Speaker 4: that what are you listening to? At what point did

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Speaker 2: Are you listening? So clearly we didn't blame this situation.

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Speaker 2: You know, they got no control over White Island. Be

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Speaker 2: magic if they did, that might help their fortunes, But

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Speaker 2: they don't have any control over White Island.

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Speaker 4: Imagine just making something up that you've heard and then

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Speaker 4: New Zealand has had its well publicized challenges and this

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Speaker 4: and they're just looking at a bunch of bunch of things,

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Speaker 4: then this happens. So you know, it's not their faults.

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Speaker 2: Kicking someone while they're down.

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Speaker 4: But when a brand goes through tough times, that's when

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Speaker 4: And I was talking about brand capital before, and I

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Speaker 4: representing I'm just reading this definition the community of value, awareness,

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Speaker 4: with them. And I think as a country, notwithstanding the

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Speaker 4: When their safety videos first came out, they were global,

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Speaker 4: And look, I was sitting on a plane in Wellington

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Speaker 4: Takahey video I was watching for the one thousandth time,

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Speaker 2: So what do you say though, oh, one hundred and

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon to you. So Kiwi's falling out of love

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Speaker 4: And I just, you know, kind of it sounds? Are

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Speaker 2: Yeah we have, we have, Yeah, we as a spot on. Peter,

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Speaker 2: thank you very much for your call. Fantastic chat with you.

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Speaker 2: You go, well, oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 2: Keen to hear your thoughts. Nineteen ninety two is the

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Speaker 1: The headlines and the hard questions. It's the make asking breakfast.

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Speaker 9: To feel issue was real and the prices are real

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Speaker 9: they were already losing money. They've now suspended their guidance

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Speaker 10: Right now?

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Speaker 4: You've got supply supplies not the problem. You're not running out.

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Speaker 9: How much will this link demand or will people simply

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Speaker 4: I think New Zealand was a great tourism product before

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Speaker 2: It's a good place to come and have a safe,

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Speaker 9: Back tomorrow at six am The Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 2: Z B twenty nine past one. So the question we've

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Speaker 4: The six is this Texas is Come on, guys, I

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Speaker 4: love your show. But the business in Iran is not

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Speaker 4: So that's that's you know. But I tell you what

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Speaker 4: But we're just talking about brand capital and how you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and whether you feel that they may be taking

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Speaker 4: This text, though, has played to my patriotism and when

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Speaker 4: They are in New Zealand. Yep, maybe we should stop

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Speaker 14: war is forcing New Zealand's seafood exporters to reroot shipments

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Speaker 14: in the region and may have to return goods home.

435
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Speaker 14: Spiking global fuel prices are also likely to cost us

436
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Speaker 14: at checkouts by affecting transport and processing costs. Retail in

437
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Speaker 14: Z's chief executive says expanding citizens arrest powers as proposed

438
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Speaker 14: a new legislation is likely to endanger young people and

439
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Speaker 14: goes against everything known about child well being. A temporary

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Speaker 14: one lane replacement for Mangati Bridge near Pierongia, south of

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Speaker 14: Hamilton should be operational by the end of the week

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Speaker 14: after being damaged in February storms. Some flights in and

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Speaker 14: art of Todonga were canceled this morning, with steam and

444
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Speaker 14: gas visible rising from Fakadi, White Island. The volcanic alert

445
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Speaker 14: level remains at too indicating moderate to heightened unrest. Most

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Speaker 14: business leaders back Mayor Andrew Little but say Wellington is

447
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Speaker 14: still on the wrong track. You can read more at

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Speaker 14: Insidherrald Premium back to Matteath and Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Ray Leans. So we are talking

450
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Speaker 2: about Air New Zealand a raft of issues outside of

451
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Speaker 2: their control. As we know this morning the news hits

452
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Speaker 2: that they're going to have to consolidate oney one hundred

453
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Speaker 2: flights due to the unprecedented jet fuel prices. But the

454
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Speaker 2: question we've put to you is have you fallen out

455
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Speaker 2: of love with Air New Zealand And if you have,

456
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Speaker 2: how can the airline restore confidence in its brand most

457
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Speaker 2: of us once loved at one point in time O

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Speaker 2: eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 4: So if Keyi's only in New Zealand, do we get

460
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Speaker 4: a cut when they make money? Nope, but we pay

461
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Speaker 4: for them in tax bailouts. Keis don't get any benefits. Well,

462
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Speaker 4: we only own half of them as the country and

463
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Speaker 4: if they're making huge profits then then some of that

464
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Speaker 4: would go back into the New Zealand coffers. Just hasn't

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Speaker 4: really been a thing lately.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and I think the other benefit of we've been

467
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Speaker 2: fair to Inar New Zealand, and we.

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Speaker 4: Should because they're the national carriers.

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Speaker 2: Stop punching down, just stop smashing out, stop smashing our

470
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Speaker 2: dear in New Zealand is that they provide roots to

471
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Speaker 2: regional places that are not economically viable. So that is

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Speaker 2: something that they give back to New Zealand and it's

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Speaker 2: important that we have those roots and that is something

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Speaker 2: that they do. But thank you very much for those techs.

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Speaker 2: Keep them coming through on nine to nine two, but

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Speaker 2: join the conversation on O eight hundred and eighty ten

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Speaker 2: eighty Simon, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 5: And thanks for having me on the Guys Show. Guys

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Speaker 5: and according from Cross And Yeah, I've been a long

480
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Speaker 5: time user of in New Zealand. Certainly on domestic I

481
00:23:13,573 --> 00:23:16,933
Speaker 5: think the opposition's probably somewhat more unreliable than the New

482
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Speaker 5: Zealand and you know what you get within New Zealand,

483
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Speaker 5: you probably know what you get with the opposition. So

484
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Speaker 5: dominantly on domestic I've used in New Zealand. Some of

485
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Speaker 5: those regional prices can get a little bit costly there.

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Speaker 5: But international, certainly if you're going to Australia and back

487
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Speaker 5: and I've booked the go flights next week and coming

488
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Speaker 5: back a week later. But I looked at I think

489
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Speaker 5: for Australia you don't really need all of that the

490
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Speaker 5: food and stuff like that you can never feed at

491
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Speaker 5: the airport before you go, or something like that. It's

492
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Speaker 5: only a three three and a half half flight. But

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Speaker 5: when you're looking at seventy or eighty dollars one hundred

494
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Speaker 5: dollars difference for a trains chasement flight between Conscious in

495
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Speaker 5: their New Zealand and they're both lying in the morning

496
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Speaker 5: ten or fifteen minutes apart, then you've got to do

497
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Speaker 5: your jugitisus and think you know it's a hundred dollars

498
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Speaker 5: tree or eighty dollars tree. Well, I'm going to take

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Speaker 5: the eighty dollars treep affair and the sun coming back.

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Speaker 5: So I'm going on Conduce and coming back on in

501
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Speaker 5: New Zealand only because they were in New Zealand was

502
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Speaker 5: cheaper than Conduce coming back and the times matched what

503
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Speaker 5: I was looking for as well. So yeah, that's wow.

504
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Speaker 5: I don't think I've really feel fallen out of it.

505
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Speaker 5: I'm love within New Zealand, but sometimes you just got

506
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Speaker 5: to sorry something.

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Speaker 4: Can you say that last bit again? You you went out.

508
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Speaker 4: We lost about the last ten seconds of what you're saying.

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Speaker 5: So I'm not so sure if I've lost faith or

510
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Speaker 5: love of the New Zealand. But yeah, when the service

511
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Speaker 5: is pretty much the similar and cheaper, you've got to consider,

512
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Speaker 5: you know, I'm getting the same sort of service on

513
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Speaker 5: another airline and it's only a three hour flight. Then yeah,

514
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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm presuming that you take single Poiria lines

515
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Speaker 5: from christ hush Auckland to Singapore. Not did in New

516
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Speaker 5: Zealand fly that route, but the same sort you know,

517
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Speaker 5: to compare to Singaporeia lines to a New Zealand the

518
00:24:48,253 --> 00:24:50,773
Speaker 5: service is pretty much the same, and you say you've

519
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Speaker 5: got to do your due diligence and think, you know

520
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Speaker 5: the service is somewhat similar, and the price is one

521
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Speaker 5: hundred hundred dollars cheaper or eighty dollars cheaper, You're going

522
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Speaker 5: to take the cheaper one unless you're really loyal to

523
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Speaker 5: in New Zealand and one to support in New Zealand

524
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Speaker 5: and as kiwi's as we are in fifty one percent

525
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Speaker 5: of it. Couldn't we get a subsidy? Couldn't New Zealanders

526
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Speaker 5: get a five dollars discount because we part I only

527
00:25:12,533 --> 00:25:14,973
Speaker 5: just get the clank yourself fine, as would pay a fight.

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Speaker 5: I'm on a four or five dollars more on a

529
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Speaker 5: domestic fear because they're not in New Zealanders or something

530
00:25:19,373 --> 00:25:20,933
Speaker 5: like that. That would that was kind of make it

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Speaker 5: more It would.

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Speaker 4: Be a nice gesture. I couldn't see it happening just

533
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Speaker 4: just firstly, flying I always just pressed return. You know what,

534
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Speaker 4: I've never ever thought about that, you know, checking the

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Speaker 4: flight one way and the white the other way. I'm

536
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Speaker 4: always like book and return and I look at just

537
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Speaker 4: look at the dates on either side package. Yea, so

538
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Speaker 4: good on you for being so organized. But simon all

539
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Speaker 4: things being equal though, So all things being equal or

540
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Speaker 4: within about fifty bucks, would your patriotism and loyalty to

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Speaker 4: the national carrier get you choosing in New Zealand.

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Speaker 5: For transitment flights? Probably not, not on fifty dollars, yeah,

543
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Speaker 5: maybe twenty dollars, yes, But I also looked at the times,

544
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Speaker 5: you know, like out of christ Chest there's a lot

545
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Speaker 5: of flights to fly to Chasing at six o'clock in

546
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Speaker 5: the morning, so you got to beat the airport of

547
00:26:10,973 --> 00:26:13,133
Speaker 5: like three thirty four in the morning is getting up

548
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Speaker 5: at two Hulbus two and so I've done an afternoon

549
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Speaker 5: flight and that a New Zealand's got one about twenty

550
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Speaker 5: minutes before. But I looked at them both and just

551
00:26:19,853 --> 00:26:21,853
Speaker 5: realized NAS too. You know, a New Zealand's a bit

552
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Speaker 5: more expensive. But when I looked at coming back, I

553
00:26:24,693 --> 00:26:27,973
Speaker 5: picked the in New Zealand because they had a flight

554
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Speaker 5: at a Brisbane about nine o'clock in the morning that

555
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Speaker 5: got into Christlich at like four o'clock in the afternoon.

556
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Speaker 5: Where so I've come back Kant so I had to.

557
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Speaker 5: I've waited until you know, six o'clock Queensland time, getting

558
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Speaker 5: into Chaist each and midnight, and I didn't want to

559
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Speaker 5: do that. So, yeah, a New Zealand one on that

560
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Speaker 5: one because on the times.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough too. Simon, you sound like a sevy fly.

562
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Speaker 2: I appreciate your thoughts.

563
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that arriving that early for an international flight when

564
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Speaker 4: it's just Australia that bugs me. Surely it's twenty twenty six,

565
00:26:55,653 --> 00:26:57,733
Speaker 4: we should be allowed to turn up to a flight.

566
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Speaker 4: I don't consider a flight to Australia as an international flight.

567
00:27:00,813 --> 00:27:03,133
Speaker 4: That's not an into just a hot across the ditch. Yeah, yeah,

568
00:27:03,613 --> 00:27:05,613
Speaker 4: that you should be able to turn up an hour

569
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Speaker 4: before an international flight when it's Australia.

570
00:27:09,133 --> 00:27:09,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not.

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Speaker 4: I mean, maybe if you're going through the United States

572
00:27:12,693 --> 00:27:14,653
Speaker 4: have got different rules. Whatever you've got to do, I

573
00:27:14,693 --> 00:27:16,773
Speaker 4: don't know what it is, but why have we not

574
00:27:16,893 --> 00:27:19,253
Speaker 4: got any better at getting people on planes quicker?

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Speaker 2: We can figure that out with the Aussies. Surely that's

576
00:27:21,573 --> 00:27:24,293
Speaker 2: an easy thing. We've got a good relationship Australia. Let's

577
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Speaker 2: do it.

578
00:27:24,693 --> 00:27:29,333
Speaker 4: Make it like an intercity bus. So I love an

579
00:27:29,333 --> 00:27:31,693
Speaker 4: inter city because you just jump on.

580
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, it's great. A couple of teaks coming through

581
00:27:34,733 --> 00:27:36,533
Speaker 2: on nine to nine two.

582
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Speaker 4: The government's take from taxes and revenue from the airline,

583
00:27:40,053 --> 00:27:42,533
Speaker 4: fuel and the power companies could surely be lessened to

584
00:27:42,653 --> 00:27:46,573
Speaker 4: soften the blow to consume a New Zealand. Mind you,

585
00:27:46,773 --> 00:27:50,213
Speaker 4: old mother Hubbard Willis hasn't left much in the cupboard.

586
00:27:51,013 --> 00:27:56,293
Speaker 4: The gouge continues. I think there could definitely be something

587
00:27:56,373 --> 00:28:00,053
Speaker 4: done on petrol pumps, right because when you know, we

588
00:28:00,173 --> 00:28:03,773
Speaker 4: always have this argument, right when the price of fuel

589
00:28:03,853 --> 00:28:08,293
Speaker 4: goes up, then the amount of money the government takes increases, right, correct?

590
00:28:08,453 --> 00:28:08,653
Speaker 7: Yep?

591
00:28:09,173 --> 00:28:11,493
Speaker 4: I think this should be amount they take. This should

592
00:28:11,533 --> 00:28:12,333
Speaker 4: just be an amount they take.

593
00:28:12,413 --> 00:28:12,813
Speaker 3: Just cap it.

594
00:28:13,093 --> 00:28:15,493
Speaker 2: So a text cap on how much you can take

595
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Speaker 2: from fuel.

596
00:28:16,453 --> 00:28:20,053
Speaker 4: Let's make it one cent and then that doesn't move.

597
00:28:20,613 --> 00:28:23,053
Speaker 2: What do you say, oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty

598
00:28:23,373 --> 00:28:27,093
Speaker 2: in New Zealand? Is your loyalty waning to our national carrier?

599
00:28:27,293 --> 00:28:28,933
Speaker 2: And if it is, what can they do to win

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Speaker 2: you back? Join the conversation? Nineteen nine two is the text.

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Speaker 2: It's eighteen to two.

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Speaker 1: Matt and Tyler with you as your afternoon rolls on

603
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Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons with Skoda.

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Speaker 10: Can you crack the code?

605
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Speaker 2: Please go to Codes every Day News Talks. That'd be

606
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Speaker 2: It is a quarter to two. So is your loyalty

607
00:28:48,093 --> 00:28:49,893
Speaker 2: loyalty to in New Zealand waning? And what can they

608
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Speaker 2: do to when you're back?

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Speaker 4: Wayne? Welcome to the show. How are you?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

611
00:28:53,933 --> 00:28:54,293
Speaker 5: I'm good?

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Speaker 15: Thanks here you guys brilliant?

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00:28:57,253 --> 00:28:59,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, love and life loving Hamilton.

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Speaker 15: Hey, I fly quarter bit for work and I also

615
00:29:02,893 --> 00:29:07,813
Speaker 15: fly quarter bit for personal needs. Lovely, we got the

616
00:29:07,893 --> 00:29:10,613
Speaker 15: leading two. I'm back for family visits now and again.

617
00:29:11,493 --> 00:29:14,933
Speaker 15: And my opinion is that Any Zealand's definitely slipped in

618
00:29:14,973 --> 00:29:17,613
Speaker 15: the last few years. They're definitely not the same airline

619
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Speaker 15: after COVID. They're just not as polished as they used

620
00:29:22,093 --> 00:29:25,413
Speaker 15: to be. So I was in Singapore, was and chinga

621
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Speaker 15: airport on Saturday, flying Friday SORR flying home Friday night,

622
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Speaker 15: and we got last and were ended up in a

623
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Speaker 15: lift and at the same time a Singapore air crew

624
00:29:38,133 --> 00:29:43,213
Speaker 15: got on the lift. They were immaculate, as we all know,

625
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Speaker 15: Singapore cruise are always emmaculate. A New Zealand used to

626
00:29:46,733 --> 00:29:52,453
Speaker 15: be Mechla flying home from Singapore auckland On in New

627
00:29:52,573 --> 00:29:55,893
Speaker 15: Zealand that night, like weren't colleague and I were laughing

628
00:29:56,013 --> 00:30:00,853
Speaker 15: because the stewart was bending down to just the dinners

629
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Speaker 15: out and his underwear had written up his back and

630
00:30:04,013 --> 00:30:05,693
Speaker 15: we were laughing at the CAVN kline and.

631
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Speaker 10: He's on it.

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Speaker 15: Never would have seen that five years ago. But they're

633
00:30:10,133 --> 00:30:12,933
Speaker 15: just not as polished as they used to be. I

634
00:30:13,093 --> 00:30:17,373
Speaker 15: wanted to be loyal to them, but like we ended

635
00:30:17,453 --> 00:30:21,173
Speaker 15: up booking. We went from Dunedin to Queensland from family

636
00:30:21,213 --> 00:30:24,933
Speaker 15: holiday last year and started a new service out of

637
00:30:24,973 --> 00:30:28,493
Speaker 15: Dunedin and when we got back, he said, oh, yeah,

638
00:30:28,493 --> 00:30:31,333
Speaker 15: well they like I said, I couldn't fault them. I said,

639
00:30:31,373 --> 00:30:34,013
Speaker 15: everybody got on the plane early. We left ten minutes

640
00:30:34,093 --> 00:30:38,453
Speaker 15: early and the service was outstanding, the food was fine.

641
00:30:38,853 --> 00:30:40,933
Speaker 15: That was way cheaper than any of Zealand. It was

642
00:30:40,933 --> 00:30:43,373
Speaker 15: a direct flight which made it cheap so we didn't

643
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Speaker 15: have to go through christ to Auckland. I think any

644
00:30:47,293 --> 00:30:51,373
Speaker 15: Zeon's got some challenges because they've got some real competition.

645
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Speaker 10: Now.

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Speaker 15: In the past, I would have just booked them, but

647
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Speaker 15: now I definitely look at other options. And the other

648
00:31:00,253 --> 00:31:02,893
Speaker 15: thing is I got work a colleague that used to

649
00:31:02,973 --> 00:31:05,613
Speaker 15: work for any Zeon and I said, you know, are

650
00:31:05,613 --> 00:31:08,693
Speaker 15: they goodbye for seers? And he said, oh, that are

651
00:31:08,773 --> 00:31:11,453
Speaker 15: not really. He said they waste a lot of money

652
00:31:11,493 --> 00:31:13,253
Speaker 15: on their management structure. I said, how do you mean

653
00:31:13,333 --> 00:31:17,253
Speaker 15: by that? He goes, there's a whole management team dedicated

654
00:31:17,293 --> 00:31:20,813
Speaker 15: to these teams, which is like a woke thing, And

655
00:31:20,893 --> 00:31:22,973
Speaker 15: I said, do you mean that the like operations manager

656
00:31:23,053 --> 00:31:27,933
Speaker 15: have these tribes as well, or it's a whole They've

657
00:31:27,973 --> 00:31:31,653
Speaker 15: got two management structures and one dedicated to this woke

658
00:31:32,053 --> 00:31:33,933
Speaker 15: tribes thing and it's nothing to do with mericulture of

659
00:31:33,973 --> 00:31:37,213
Speaker 15: fully endorsed and encarriage. That it's all about these tribes

660
00:31:37,293 --> 00:31:40,493
Speaker 15: and like a management thing that's just a waste of

661
00:31:40,533 --> 00:31:40,973
Speaker 15: money in his.

662
00:31:41,013 --> 00:31:43,413
Speaker 4: Opinion, Well, I can't speak to that. I don't have

663
00:31:43,413 --> 00:31:45,653
Speaker 4: any information there but do you have any sympathy for

664
00:31:45,693 --> 00:31:48,293
Speaker 4: your New Zealand because you know COVID nineteen right, twenty

665
00:31:48,413 --> 00:31:52,093
Speaker 4: twenty to twenty twenty two, basically international travel was shut

666
00:31:52,853 --> 00:31:56,773
Speaker 4: down for two years. Then there was all the engine trouble.

667
00:31:56,813 --> 00:31:58,373
Speaker 4: They've had a lot of problems with their rolls, Roy's

668
00:31:58,413 --> 00:32:02,533
Speaker 4: engines and starch. They've the fuel problems. You know, they've

669
00:32:02,573 --> 00:32:05,613
Speaker 4: had supply chain issues. Then there was all these there

670
00:32:05,693 --> 00:32:08,613
Speaker 4: was labor disputes at one point. If they feel it

671
00:32:08,693 --> 00:32:11,813
Speaker 4: feels like they've had challenge after challenge after challenge, right,

672
00:32:12,653 --> 00:32:16,013
Speaker 4: and that is going to manifest in a in a

673
00:32:16,133 --> 00:32:20,973
Speaker 4: drop off in quality just because their focus isn't exactly

674
00:32:21,133 --> 00:32:25,813
Speaker 4: on customer service and their focus is on survival, I

675
00:32:25,853 --> 00:32:28,493
Speaker 4: would say, and to a certain extent, yeah, but.

676
00:32:28,533 --> 00:32:30,613
Speaker 15: It's the same challenges that every other airline in the

677
00:32:30,653 --> 00:32:33,013
Speaker 15: world is faced, and some of them have come out

678
00:32:33,053 --> 00:32:35,493
Speaker 15: of it. I think it better shape than any land

679
00:32:35,773 --> 00:32:37,413
Speaker 15: and that's that I think is the key to it.

680
00:32:37,573 --> 00:32:40,173
Speaker 15: Is they've refreshed a lot of staff, a lot of

681
00:32:40,213 --> 00:32:42,333
Speaker 15: stuff would have left during COVID, a lot of new

682
00:32:42,373 --> 00:32:43,853
Speaker 15: staff would have been taken on, and there's a lot

683
00:32:43,893 --> 00:32:46,893
Speaker 15: of training to But other airlines have absolutely nailed it,

684
00:32:47,133 --> 00:32:49,053
Speaker 15: and I don't know if any Hillins has.

685
00:32:50,773 --> 00:32:50,893
Speaker 10: Well.

686
00:32:50,933 --> 00:32:53,173
Speaker 4: I mean in New Zealand does have the problem of

687
00:32:53,413 --> 00:32:57,813
Speaker 4: our domestic routes being pretty much lost leaders compared to

688
00:32:58,053 --> 00:33:01,053
Speaker 4: you know, like an American airline or even Australian airline.

689
00:33:01,413 --> 00:33:04,933
Speaker 4: There's a lot more traffic to a lot of big

690
00:33:05,613 --> 00:33:10,493
Speaker 4: you know, destinations and stuff. So yeah, I mean it

691
00:33:10,653 --> 00:33:13,133
Speaker 4: is hard though when you look at Quantas doing incredibly

692
00:33:13,213 --> 00:33:15,893
Speaker 4: well and in New Zealand's always going to be compared

693
00:33:15,893 --> 00:33:17,653
Speaker 4: to Quantus, isn't it. It is Yeah, I mean that's

694
00:33:17,653 --> 00:33:19,373
Speaker 4: the next one you think of down the line being

695
00:33:19,373 --> 00:33:21,733
Speaker 4: a Kiwi. So Quantus doing so well in the in

696
00:33:21,773 --> 00:33:26,773
Speaker 4: New Zealand doing so poorly. It's yeah, it makes you

697
00:33:26,773 --> 00:33:27,413
Speaker 4: ask questions.

698
00:33:29,413 --> 00:33:32,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, Wayne, thank you very much for giving us a buzz.

699
00:33:32,373 --> 00:33:34,533
Speaker 2: Great to get your thoughts really appreciated. Oh eight hundred

700
00:33:34,573 --> 00:33:37,453
Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty Do you agree with Wayne, has

701
00:33:37,573 --> 00:33:39,493
Speaker 2: in New Zealand lost its Wayne? If it has, what

702
00:33:39,533 --> 00:33:41,933
Speaker 2: does it need to do to get your loyalty back?

703
00:33:42,453 --> 00:33:45,693
Speaker 4: I love Air New Zealand. Yes, is Robert I love

704
00:33:45,813 --> 00:33:48,213
Speaker 4: with a big emoji heart in New Zealand. On a

705
00:33:48,253 --> 00:33:50,293
Speaker 4: recent flight to Chan, I got A free upgrade to

706
00:33:50,333 --> 00:33:53,333
Speaker 4: a skycouch always helps to sweet talk with the flight attendant.

707
00:33:54,053 --> 00:33:56,653
Speaker 4: I got no problems at all with Air New Zealand.

708
00:33:56,853 --> 00:33:59,733
Speaker 4: Love Heart, love Heart, love Heart. That's from Robert. There

709
00:33:59,773 --> 00:33:59,973
Speaker 4: you go.

710
00:34:00,173 --> 00:34:01,813
Speaker 2: That's a patriotic KIWI right there.

711
00:34:01,973 --> 00:34:03,813
Speaker 4: That's what we want to hear, not this bloody winging

712
00:34:03,853 --> 00:34:05,213
Speaker 4: we've had from Matt and Tyler.

713
00:34:05,333 --> 00:34:08,172
Speaker 2: More upgrades to skycouch. Yeah, I want an upgrade too.

714
00:34:08,453 --> 00:34:11,453
Speaker 2: It is tend to to Matt.

715
00:34:11,333 --> 00:34:14,652
Speaker 1: Heath Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred and

716
00:34:14,692 --> 00:34:18,653
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons.

717
00:34:18,133 --> 00:34:24,772
Speaker 2: News TALKSB, News Talks B. It is seven to two high.

718
00:34:24,813 --> 00:34:27,293
Speaker 4: We flew in New Zealand premium economy several times last

719
00:34:27,373 --> 00:34:31,413
Speaker 4: year and once premier economy on Singapore Airlines. Singapore was

720
00:34:32,253 --> 00:34:37,453
Speaker 4: absolutely dreadful. Singapore a dreadful way to fly. We thought

721
00:34:37,533 --> 00:34:40,893
Speaker 4: we were in an economy, no space, struggle to even

722
00:34:40,933 --> 00:34:43,373
Speaker 4: get out of the seat, food and service nothing like

723
00:34:43,493 --> 00:34:46,053
Speaker 4: in New Zealand. And I'm not particularly patriotic towards the

724
00:34:46,093 --> 00:34:49,053
Speaker 4: New Zealand, but we tend to stick it to We

725
00:34:49,213 --> 00:34:52,573
Speaker 4: tend to stick with them now Yeah, are we just

726
00:34:52,653 --> 00:34:54,533
Speaker 4: too hard on in New Zealand because we always have

727
00:34:54,613 --> 00:34:57,533
Speaker 4: it in the back of our head that we own them.

728
00:34:58,533 --> 00:35:03,173
Speaker 4: So when you own something, you know, you feel you know,

729
00:35:03,253 --> 00:35:05,733
Speaker 4: you feel like you've got the like you like an

730
00:35:05,813 --> 00:35:07,933
Speaker 4: argument with your sister. Yeah, you feel like you've got

731
00:35:07,973 --> 00:35:09,253
Speaker 4: the right criticized and stuff.

732
00:35:09,253 --> 00:35:10,693
Speaker 2: I think there's a part of that as well. But

733
00:35:10,773 --> 00:35:14,172
Speaker 2: everyone has bad days, even Singapore Airlines apparently that are long.

734
00:35:14,413 --> 00:35:16,533
Speaker 2: You know, tilted is one of the best. So maybe

735
00:35:16,613 --> 00:35:18,493
Speaker 2: because we use them so often when they have the

736
00:35:18,533 --> 00:35:21,093
Speaker 2: occasional bad day or something goes wrong, we really lay

737
00:35:21,133 --> 00:35:22,893
Speaker 2: into them because we feel we've got that ownership.

738
00:35:23,133 --> 00:35:26,373
Speaker 4: Singapore Line is still doing Singapore Girl, You're a great

739
00:35:26,453 --> 00:35:30,652
Speaker 4: way to fly, I hope so that before guys, if

740
00:35:30,693 --> 00:35:32,893
Speaker 4: tax paying funding was removed from in New Zealand, it

741
00:35:32,933 --> 00:35:36,293
Speaker 4: would close in a week. Simple, Yeah, let's go to

742
00:35:36,373 --> 00:35:39,212
Speaker 4: the phones, get a don good.

743
00:35:39,453 --> 00:35:44,253
Speaker 2: How are you very good? Keen on your tron loving it?

744
00:35:44,573 --> 00:35:46,733
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, he hasn't even he hasn't even stepped

745
00:35:46,733 --> 00:35:49,293
Speaker 4: outside in the tron yet, he's never been here before. Yep,

746
00:35:49,693 --> 00:35:52,172
Speaker 4: we drove in, pass it and park found the place

747
00:35:52,213 --> 00:35:53,933
Speaker 4: he walks right in. So he has no experience of

748
00:35:53,973 --> 00:35:54,773
Speaker 4: the tron so far.

749
00:35:54,853 --> 00:35:57,893
Speaker 2: I like what I see, Don, Yeah, that's good.

750
00:35:58,013 --> 00:36:02,493
Speaker 11: I'm pleased. Hey, I'm just disappointed. And because if I

751
00:36:02,613 --> 00:36:04,253
Speaker 11: want to go down to New Plymouth, that cost me

752
00:36:04,333 --> 00:36:05,973
Speaker 11: an arm and a leg and that since.

753
00:36:07,653 --> 00:36:08,293
Speaker 4: Pulled out of there.

754
00:36:08,373 --> 00:36:12,053
Speaker 11: Yeah, And the reason is that we, the New Zealand

755
00:36:12,093 --> 00:36:15,093
Speaker 11: taxpayer bailed them out nine hundred million and twenty twenty

756
00:36:16,693 --> 00:36:18,973
Speaker 11: and they bailed them out priorly to that in two

757
00:36:19,013 --> 00:36:21,692
Speaker 11: thousand and one for nine hundred million and then twenty

758
00:36:21,773 --> 00:36:24,493
Speaker 11: twenty one put another six hundred million in. So I

759
00:36:24,573 --> 00:36:27,293
Speaker 11: think as a as a as an airliner owned by

760
00:36:27,373 --> 00:36:30,493
Speaker 11: the people of New Zealand, we're paying for it. We're

761
00:36:30,493 --> 00:36:34,333
Speaker 11: still paying for it. That they need to be able

762
00:36:34,373 --> 00:36:36,853
Speaker 11: to provide flights that are affordable than New Plymouth and

763
00:36:37,293 --> 00:36:39,773
Speaker 11: these other regional areas. I know that might be a

764
00:36:39,853 --> 00:36:40,172
Speaker 11: last lie.

765
00:36:40,253 --> 00:36:43,252
Speaker 4: So do you find them Don when you're flying?

766
00:36:43,333 --> 00:36:43,493
Speaker 16: Yeah?

767
00:36:43,493 --> 00:36:45,413
Speaker 4: I mean that that's the thing. They are in New Zealand.

768
00:36:45,853 --> 00:36:47,813
Speaker 4: That's part of it. We own them, we bailed them out.

769
00:36:47,853 --> 00:36:50,333
Speaker 4: They can't they can't abandon the regions. But don are

770
00:36:50,333 --> 00:36:53,853
Speaker 4: you flying from? Where are you flying from? To Pumpson?

771
00:36:53,853 --> 00:36:54,573
Speaker 11: Nor from Auckland?

772
00:36:55,293 --> 00:36:58,853
Speaker 4: From from Auckland and how much are you paying general?

773
00:36:58,933 --> 00:36:59,212
Speaker 17: How much?

774
00:36:59,293 --> 00:37:00,173
Speaker 4: Probably that that flight.

775
00:37:00,813 --> 00:37:05,533
Speaker 11: Roughly five hundred dollars, probably return more than that. Yeah, yeah,

776
00:37:07,173 --> 00:37:08,173
Speaker 11: for what's the forty five.

777
00:37:08,053 --> 00:37:09,533
Speaker 2: Minutes a lot of money. Yeah, And I look, I

778
00:37:09,613 --> 00:37:11,613
Speaker 2: mean it always comes up with the regions. But if

779
00:37:11,613 --> 00:37:13,133
Speaker 2: you're in New Zealand, pull out and we need them

780
00:37:13,173 --> 00:37:14,893
Speaker 2: to stay in there because we you know, we own

781
00:37:14,973 --> 00:37:16,693
Speaker 2: them and that's what they need to do with the

782
00:37:16,773 --> 00:37:19,373
Speaker 2: National Airline. But if they Yeah, but if they pull out,

783
00:37:19,413 --> 00:37:21,133
Speaker 2: nobody else is going to jump in there because it's

784
00:37:21,213 --> 00:37:24,013
Speaker 2: not economically viable. So so part of me wants to

785
00:37:24,013 --> 00:37:26,093
Speaker 2: give them a bit of a break on that aspect.

786
00:37:26,333 --> 00:37:28,973
Speaker 2: That that is, you know, Kevy a difficult way to

787
00:37:29,173 --> 00:37:32,172
Speaker 2: run a business. Own them.

788
00:37:32,173 --> 00:37:34,133
Speaker 11: You know, they're owned by the taxpayer. The taxpayer is

789
00:37:34,173 --> 00:37:35,653
Speaker 11: paying for them. I think they need to provide a

790
00:37:35,693 --> 00:37:37,692
Speaker 11: bit of service. I mean, they charge plenty on going

791
00:37:37,693 --> 00:37:39,813
Speaker 11: to Dunedin and christ Church as well.

792
00:37:40,373 --> 00:37:41,493
Speaker 2: But you know they'll certainly do.

793
00:37:42,693 --> 00:37:44,173
Speaker 4: I think so much, Don But we've got to go

794
00:37:44,253 --> 00:37:45,813
Speaker 4: to the news that's coming in fast.

795
00:37:46,013 --> 00:37:48,773
Speaker 2: It absolutely is to stay right here. We will be

796
00:37:48,933 --> 00:37:51,493
Speaker 2: back very soon. You're listening to Matt and Tyler, I

797
00:37:51,493 --> 00:37:55,493
Speaker 2: hope you have it a great Thursday afternoon news is

798
00:37:55,693 --> 00:37:56,253
Speaker 2: coming up.

799
00:37:58,773 --> 00:38:03,413
Speaker 1: Big stories, the leak issues, the big trends and everything

800
00:38:03,493 --> 00:38:07,293
Speaker 1: in between. It's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoon Squid

801
00:38:07,453 --> 00:38:09,173
Speaker 1: Scodder Talk said, be.

802
00:38:11,013 --> 00:38:13,533
Speaker 2: Very good afternoons. You welcome back into the show. It

803
00:38:13,733 --> 00:38:16,652
Speaker 2: is six pass two and just a reminder coming up

804
00:38:16,693 --> 00:38:19,133
Speaker 2: a little bit later this hour, our mates at SCODA

805
00:38:19,173 --> 00:38:21,493
Speaker 2: could be sending you and a friend to the tour

806
00:38:21,573 --> 00:38:23,933
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807
00:38:24,013 --> 00:38:26,533
Speaker 2: need some help with today's clue, keep listening. We will

808
00:38:26,613 --> 00:38:29,652
Speaker 2: have a clue for you a little bit later this hour.

809
00:38:29,773 --> 00:38:32,013
Speaker 2: But back to our discussion we've been having on Air

810
00:38:32,093 --> 00:38:34,573
Speaker 2: New Zealand, and this is after more bad news for

811
00:38:34,773 --> 00:38:39,093
Speaker 2: the national airline. This morning the chief executive Nickel Ravin

812
00:38:39,173 --> 00:38:41,493
Speaker 2: Shanka announced that they're going to have to consolidate one

813
00:38:41,573 --> 00:38:45,853
Speaker 2: thy one hundred flights because of unprecedented jet fuel prices

814
00:38:45,933 --> 00:38:49,853
Speaker 2: that will affect around forty four thousand customers. It is

815
00:38:49,933 --> 00:38:53,373
Speaker 2: a run of incredibly bad news for Air New Zealand.

816
00:38:53,373 --> 00:38:55,453
Speaker 2: But the question we put to you is are you

817
00:38:55,573 --> 00:38:57,973
Speaker 2: starting or have you fallen out of love with the

818
00:38:58,093 --> 00:39:00,053
Speaker 2: airline and if you have, what can they do to

819
00:39:00,133 --> 00:39:00,893
Speaker 2: get that love back?

820
00:39:02,253 --> 00:39:04,693
Speaker 4: You've got to feel for them, right, You've got to

821
00:39:04,693 --> 00:39:07,933
Speaker 4: feel for Air New Zealand because the term unprecedented, you know,

822
00:39:08,373 --> 00:39:13,773
Speaker 4: closing down for two years all international flights basically in

823
00:39:13,813 --> 00:39:16,773
Speaker 4: New Zealand for two years. I mean, the term unprecedented

824
00:39:16,813 --> 00:39:21,933
Speaker 4: gets bandied about. But that twenty two when we became

825
00:39:22,173 --> 00:39:25,333
Speaker 4: you know, the Hermit Kingdom. I mean you know that

826
00:39:25,613 --> 00:39:28,893
Speaker 4: that's a you couldn't kick an airline in the nuts harder, right, that.

827
00:39:29,013 --> 00:39:31,293
Speaker 2: Wasn't in the emergency kit for in in New Zealand.

828
00:39:31,293 --> 00:39:32,773
Speaker 2: They wouldn't know what to do in that situation.

829
00:39:32,773 --> 00:39:34,213
Speaker 4: So you've got to build back after that, and of

830
00:39:34,253 --> 00:39:36,493
Speaker 4: course the New Zealand taxpayer helped out. Then you've got

831
00:39:36,533 --> 00:39:41,573
Speaker 4: this unprecedented problem with the Rolls Royce engines. Right then

832
00:39:41,653 --> 00:39:45,813
Speaker 4: you've got you know, they had their huge labor disputes.

833
00:39:45,853 --> 00:39:49,692
Speaker 4: They were unprecedented, but a bunch of things have hit

834
00:39:49,773 --> 00:39:53,333
Speaker 4: them before this one. Right, Yeah, So you've got there's

835
00:39:53,373 --> 00:39:56,213
Speaker 4: got to be some somepathy for a national carrier. And

836
00:39:56,533 --> 00:40:00,253
Speaker 4: this is an interesting text in New Zealand bashing is

837
00:40:00,413 --> 00:40:04,493
Speaker 4: Kiwi bashing. We need a national carrier we are an

838
00:40:04,613 --> 00:40:10,933
Speaker 4: isolated little island dependent on tourism support in New Zealand.

839
00:40:11,413 --> 00:40:14,973
Speaker 4: Talk them up, don't run them down. We'd be screwed

840
00:40:15,093 --> 00:40:15,613
Speaker 4: without them.

841
00:40:16,453 --> 00:40:18,293
Speaker 2: I can hear what their texts is saying, and that's

842
00:40:18,413 --> 00:40:20,692
Speaker 2: very patriotic and good on you for back in our

843
00:40:20,813 --> 00:40:24,493
Speaker 2: national carrier, and some people will agree with that. But

844
00:40:24,893 --> 00:40:27,813
Speaker 2: surely there are things that they can do as an

845
00:40:27,813 --> 00:40:30,693
Speaker 2: outfit to earn some of that love back. You know,

846
00:40:31,093 --> 00:40:33,133
Speaker 2: it's tough times, very tough times for them, as you say,

847
00:40:33,253 --> 00:40:36,493
Speaker 2: multiple unprecedented events, which is a bit of an oxymoron,

848
00:40:36,933 --> 00:40:41,293
Speaker 2: But there are slight tweaks or elements they could change.

849
00:40:41,373 --> 00:40:45,853
Speaker 2: Surely that would start to win people back and start

850
00:40:45,933 --> 00:40:48,172
Speaker 2: to rebuild that loyalty that they've lost.

851
00:40:48,533 --> 00:40:50,813
Speaker 4: But if you consider like this texture of saying how

852
00:40:50,853 --> 00:40:54,773
Speaker 4: important they are to us, can you imagine if they

853
00:40:54,933 --> 00:40:57,772
Speaker 4: just went out of business? You know what would happen

854
00:40:57,813 --> 00:41:00,093
Speaker 4: is we'd have to bail them out again. Yep, yeah, correct, Yeah.

855
00:41:00,493 --> 00:41:03,693
Speaker 4: I don't think New Zealand could not have In New Zealand,

856
00:41:03,853 --> 00:41:05,493
Speaker 4: I don't think we could not have a national carrier.

857
00:41:05,533 --> 00:41:07,853
Speaker 4: Can you imagine it? I mean that's I mean that

858
00:41:07,893 --> 00:41:11,292
Speaker 4: would be that would be so very depressing. It would

859
00:41:11,293 --> 00:41:13,973
Speaker 4: be and it would set us back so far if

860
00:41:14,013 --> 00:41:16,013
Speaker 4: that that would happen. But if you keep in mind

861
00:41:16,333 --> 00:41:19,413
Speaker 4: how important they are to us. If you're traveling overseas,

862
00:41:20,293 --> 00:41:22,333
Speaker 4: surely you can take a two hundred dollars hit on

863
00:41:22,413 --> 00:41:27,373
Speaker 4: your flight to support the national carrier. Do the right

864
00:41:27,453 --> 00:41:31,013
Speaker 4: thing for New Zealand. Don't ask what in New Zealand

865
00:41:31,053 --> 00:41:33,732
Speaker 4: can do for you. Callers on eight hundred and eighty

866
00:41:33,773 --> 00:41:37,013
Speaker 4: ten eight ADI, ask what you can do for in

867
00:41:37,133 --> 00:41:40,893
Speaker 4: New Zealand. Maybe it isn't the perfect surface service that

868
00:41:41,053 --> 00:41:46,493
Speaker 4: used to be. Maybe their videos, their safety videos are

869
00:41:46,693 --> 00:41:49,293
Speaker 4: some kind of water boarding torture that we can't take anymore.

870
00:41:51,013 --> 00:41:54,133
Speaker 4: But we need them. So instead of spending an hour

871
00:41:54,213 --> 00:41:56,293
Speaker 4: and talk back like we have Tyler running them down,

872
00:41:56,853 --> 00:41:59,693
Speaker 4: shouldn't we be band aiding, band aiding over the problems

873
00:41:59,973 --> 00:42:03,333
Speaker 4: and talking them up and encouraging people to spend their

874
00:42:03,413 --> 00:42:05,533
Speaker 4: money with them such they can get out of this

875
00:42:05,653 --> 00:42:06,333
Speaker 4: latest crisis.

876
00:42:06,733 --> 00:42:08,013
Speaker 2: So what you're saying is we should be in the

877
00:42:08,053 --> 00:42:10,213
Speaker 2: trench with the in New Zealand. We're in this together,

878
00:42:10,333 --> 00:42:12,053
Speaker 2: and if the in New Zealand's taken a heat, you

879
00:42:12,173 --> 00:42:13,893
Speaker 2: should take ahead to what do you say to that.

880
00:42:14,253 --> 00:42:17,653
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm I'm floating.

881
00:42:18,133 --> 00:42:20,053
Speaker 2: And what do you say? Love to get your thoughts

882
00:42:20,093 --> 00:42:21,893
Speaker 2: on there, join the conversation. Oh, one hundred and eighty

883
00:42:21,973 --> 00:42:25,293
Speaker 2: ten eighty is the number to call. Shane. How are

884
00:42:25,373 --> 00:42:26,053
Speaker 2: you this afternoon?

885
00:42:26,653 --> 00:42:28,692
Speaker 8: Yeah, team, how are you good?

886
00:42:28,733 --> 00:42:29,373
Speaker 7: Good good?

887
00:42:29,573 --> 00:42:32,533
Speaker 12: I'm interesting. I've been listening for half an hour, so

888
00:42:32,813 --> 00:42:36,053
Speaker 12: just some of the comments. And yeah, I've been a

889
00:42:37,613 --> 00:42:41,533
Speaker 12: in New Zealand member or Airpoints member since nineteen ninety

890
00:42:41,613 --> 00:42:43,733
Speaker 12: and I did you know, I did do quite a

891
00:42:43,773 --> 00:42:46,213
Speaker 12: bit of traveling sort of probably earlier then than I

892
00:42:46,333 --> 00:42:49,292
Speaker 12: do now. But one of the reasons why I don't

893
00:42:49,373 --> 00:42:52,293
Speaker 12: do as much with them now is because of the

894
00:42:53,733 --> 00:42:55,293
Speaker 12: Oh I guess at the end of the day, it's

895
00:42:55,453 --> 00:43:00,293
Speaker 12: service and price and quality of service. It's to me

896
00:43:00,453 --> 00:43:05,573
Speaker 12: it's I'm a businessman and but you know, and I

897
00:43:05,693 --> 00:43:07,973
Speaker 12: have a family still and I'm still to me, it's

898
00:43:07,973 --> 00:43:11,453
Speaker 12: about we look for the best deal now then then

899
00:43:11,973 --> 00:43:15,933
Speaker 12: looking for the loyalty. And I was very, very loyal

900
00:43:16,813 --> 00:43:18,772
Speaker 12: back in the early days. But you know, I can't

901
00:43:18,813 --> 00:43:21,013
Speaker 12: even get into the Quarer lounge anymore, and we go

902
00:43:21,133 --> 00:43:23,453
Speaker 12: to a different lounge, you know, when we go. I

903
00:43:24,853 --> 00:43:29,893
Speaker 12: actually my son he sees actually a quantas pilot now,

904
00:43:29,973 --> 00:43:30,893
Speaker 12: which I don't.

905
00:43:31,133 --> 00:43:32,853
Speaker 8: Why was pilot.

906
00:43:33,293 --> 00:43:34,973
Speaker 12: He's been flying for them for a number of years

907
00:43:34,973 --> 00:43:37,373
Speaker 12: because he actually couldn't get a job with in New Zealand.

908
00:43:38,533 --> 00:43:43,212
Speaker 12: So it's it's just the general. It's it's and it's

909
00:43:43,373 --> 00:43:48,373
Speaker 12: and I'm a wanna bread kiwi. I'm you know, I'm

910
00:43:48,773 --> 00:43:53,773
Speaker 12: loyal to my country and I'd love to see them flourish.

911
00:43:53,893 --> 00:43:56,493
Speaker 12: But we've also we live in a competitive world and

912
00:43:56,613 --> 00:43:59,573
Speaker 12: we've actually got to be and in times are tough

913
00:43:59,653 --> 00:44:02,013
Speaker 12: for people, you know, we we want to have a

914
00:44:02,053 --> 00:44:05,053
Speaker 12: holiday or we need to travel for business or whatever,

915
00:44:05,493 --> 00:44:08,693
Speaker 12: we still need to look at our dollar, our bottom wine.

916
00:44:08,733 --> 00:44:14,253
Speaker 12: And yeah, I hope they don't disappear. They're fifty one

917
00:44:14,333 --> 00:44:17,213
Speaker 12: percent owned by the government. And I remember, you know,

918
00:44:17,573 --> 00:44:20,732
Speaker 12: back in the in the day when they were bailed out,

919
00:44:20,813 --> 00:44:25,493
Speaker 12: they their shares dropped to and I saw it because

920
00:44:25,533 --> 00:44:28,773
Speaker 12: my friend who was actually involved in New Zealand shares,

921
00:44:28,933 --> 00:44:34,213
Speaker 12: he it went down to two scenes and and the

922
00:44:34,293 --> 00:44:37,613
Speaker 12: government came in and obviously bought fifty one percent, and

923
00:44:38,853 --> 00:44:41,893
Speaker 12: a week later they bloomed and a lot of people

924
00:44:41,973 --> 00:44:43,653
Speaker 12: made a lot of money. Actually one guy was in

925
00:44:43,733 --> 00:44:46,013
Speaker 12: the Herald. He made a million bucks in a week,

926
00:44:47,133 --> 00:44:50,252
Speaker 12: you know, And but you know that's that's beside the point.

927
00:44:50,333 --> 00:44:54,652
Speaker 4: But let's go back in the time of scene.

928
00:44:55,333 --> 00:45:00,413
Speaker 12: I've got a six FIDGIT number. I think most airports

929
00:45:00,453 --> 00:45:04,413
Speaker 12: members have got longer ones. And I quote that into

930
00:45:04,533 --> 00:45:06,333
Speaker 12: if I go to MN attends or something like that,

931
00:45:06,493 --> 00:45:08,053
Speaker 12: what the airpoints number, and I'll give it to them.

932
00:45:08,133 --> 00:45:11,613
Speaker 12: They doesn't even register, you know, they don't even have

933
00:45:11,733 --> 00:45:14,213
Speaker 12: that registers. I don't know where that disappeared to. But

934
00:45:14,773 --> 00:45:20,172
Speaker 12: just just general service, the quality, you know things. Yeah,

935
00:45:20,453 --> 00:45:23,013
Speaker 12: it was really good back earlier on and I'm probably

936
00:45:23,013 --> 00:45:28,093
Speaker 12: showing my age, but yeah, I just tend to shop around.

937
00:45:28,133 --> 00:45:31,613
Speaker 12: But now, you know, it's just it's one of those things.

938
00:45:31,693 --> 00:45:33,253
Speaker 12: It's the real world we live in.

939
00:45:34,413 --> 00:45:36,453
Speaker 4: This is slightly off topic, Shane. I think you have

940
00:45:36,453 --> 00:45:40,133
Speaker 4: your thoughts there. So your son's a pilot for Quantas.

941
00:45:40,213 --> 00:45:42,853
Speaker 4: Have you flown on a passenger playing with him at

942
00:45:42,893 --> 00:45:46,293
Speaker 4: the controls before and you're playing at all with them

943
00:45:46,293 --> 00:45:46,853
Speaker 4: at the controls?

944
00:45:47,533 --> 00:45:50,293
Speaker 12: Yes, Well, he's used to fly some of the smaller

945
00:45:50,333 --> 00:45:53,653
Speaker 12: planes into Yeah we got contas, but I have actually

946
00:45:53,693 --> 00:45:58,333
Speaker 12: flown with him. He's almost a captain, and he did act.

947
00:45:58,973 --> 00:46:03,933
Speaker 12: He moved from Quantus to Jetstar during COVID and because

948
00:46:03,973 --> 00:46:05,773
Speaker 12: he wanted to spend time with his family. And then

949
00:46:05,813 --> 00:46:07,933
Speaker 12: he's back with Quantus. But he would have been on

950
00:46:09,133 --> 00:46:10,933
Speaker 12: a good well, he is on a good salary, but

951
00:46:11,013 --> 00:46:13,013
Speaker 12: he would have been on the far greatest he'd been

952
00:46:13,173 --> 00:46:15,773
Speaker 12: and a captain. So he's been with them for a

953
00:46:15,853 --> 00:46:19,173
Speaker 12: long time and they look after him, they really And

954
00:46:19,333 --> 00:46:21,813
Speaker 12: I've flown with Quantis probably quite quite a bit in

955
00:46:21,893 --> 00:46:24,053
Speaker 12: recent times. But I will fly with the New Zealand.

956
00:46:25,493 --> 00:46:28,533
Speaker 12: You know, I'm not sort of knocking them down, to

957
00:46:28,653 --> 00:46:32,933
Speaker 12: be honest. It's just about the bottom line or or

958
00:46:33,453 --> 00:46:35,893
Speaker 12: and that's probably a lot of families looking at simple.

959
00:46:36,453 --> 00:46:40,573
Speaker 4: Yeah. So so the loyalty isn't quite there as it

960
00:46:40,693 --> 00:46:43,213
Speaker 4: once was, because I feel like at some point in

961
00:46:43,333 --> 00:46:45,173
Speaker 4: my life anyway, I didn't even look anywhere else. I

962
00:46:45,253 --> 00:46:47,093
Speaker 4: was just like in New Zealand. In New Zealand, it's good.

963
00:46:47,133 --> 00:46:48,933
Speaker 4: That's that's the that's where I went to book my

964
00:46:48,973 --> 00:46:51,933
Speaker 4: tickets in New Zealand. I only brought up the flying

965
00:46:51,973 --> 00:46:53,813
Speaker 4: with your son because I taught my you know, I

966
00:46:53,933 --> 00:46:55,573
Speaker 4: was teaching my son how to drive recently, and I

967
00:46:55,653 --> 00:46:59,853
Speaker 4: was just thinking, Wow, imagine imagine being on a plane

968
00:46:59,893 --> 00:47:02,533
Speaker 4: with them flying it experience.

969
00:47:03,653 --> 00:47:06,973
Speaker 12: Well, I can't imagine. I mean, you know, he's my

970
00:47:07,093 --> 00:47:10,013
Speaker 12: son and he my I don't think, how the hell

971
00:47:10,053 --> 00:47:14,413
Speaker 12: are you flying five six people? And he's done some

972
00:47:14,653 --> 00:47:16,013
Speaker 12: pretty incredible.

973
00:47:17,013 --> 00:47:18,133
Speaker 2: Nice He teach how to drive.

974
00:47:20,053 --> 00:47:21,172
Speaker 12: Did he teach me how to drive?

975
00:47:21,733 --> 00:47:21,773
Speaker 14: No?

976
00:47:21,973 --> 00:47:25,973
Speaker 2: Did you teach him how to drive? I think, yeah, yeah, yeah,

977
00:47:26,613 --> 00:47:27,133
Speaker 2: a good driver.

978
00:47:28,493 --> 00:47:30,133
Speaker 8: He's a good driver. He's a good dad.

979
00:47:30,453 --> 00:47:32,253
Speaker 2: We're in safe we're in safe fans.

980
00:47:32,413 --> 00:47:37,573
Speaker 12: Yeah, definitely, he's a very level headed, common sense guy.

981
00:47:37,653 --> 00:47:39,253
Speaker 12: But he's a great pilot.

982
00:47:40,093 --> 00:47:44,292
Speaker 4: Well, I mentioned you're incredibly proud, Shane proud.

983
00:47:45,053 --> 00:47:47,652
Speaker 12: I've got four sons and one daughter and they're all

984
00:47:47,733 --> 00:47:51,613
Speaker 12: done well. But it really does. I mean, he went

985
00:47:51,693 --> 00:47:56,693
Speaker 12: to Botswana when he was training. All in all, the

986
00:47:57,133 --> 00:48:02,093
Speaker 12: Kiwis went to Botswana for to get get training because

987
00:48:02,093 --> 00:48:05,333
Speaker 12: they couldn't get it here. So he went down to Botswana. Uh,

988
00:48:06,813 --> 00:48:09,133
Speaker 12: he said, on a waiting list because the Kiwis were

989
00:48:09,213 --> 00:48:13,333
Speaker 12: actually sought after the planes were falling out of the

990
00:48:13,373 --> 00:48:15,613
Speaker 12: sky left, right, and center. We were sort of crapping

991
00:48:15,653 --> 00:48:19,813
Speaker 12: ourselves a bit for that. And he they changed the

992
00:48:19,933 --> 00:48:22,573
Speaker 12: rules for the locals. Then while he was there, he

993
00:48:22,653 --> 00:48:25,213
Speaker 12: went to Perth on the way back, since you had

994
00:48:25,253 --> 00:48:27,212
Speaker 12: to do some flying, and he got a job there

995
00:48:27,773 --> 00:48:33,293
Speaker 12: flying into the into the mines and the farms that

996
00:48:33,373 --> 00:48:35,533
Speaker 12: were way out in the back, back back blocks, and

997
00:48:35,933 --> 00:48:38,333
Speaker 12: he was flying in there and at night. I just

998
00:48:38,373 --> 00:48:40,973
Speaker 12: can't imagine even doing this. He said, you can't actually

999
00:48:41,053 --> 00:48:44,093
Speaker 12: tell which is which is the ground because you're flying

1000
00:48:44,173 --> 00:48:49,652
Speaker 12: on your instruments. He had to land with his instruments. Yeah,

1001
00:48:49,693 --> 00:48:54,413
Speaker 12: it was quite pilot. Yeah, yeah, the pilot.

1002
00:48:54,253 --> 00:48:56,533
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so so Botsmater was because you could get

1003
00:48:56,533 --> 00:48:59,213
Speaker 4: his he hit his ear hours up. Basically there was

1004
00:48:59,253 --> 00:49:00,933
Speaker 4: a way to get his ear is it? Because that's

1005
00:49:00,973 --> 00:49:03,933
Speaker 4: the thing you get, you get your license whatever, and

1006
00:49:04,053 --> 00:49:07,013
Speaker 4: then you've just got to basically work for minimum wage

1007
00:49:07,053 --> 00:49:08,053
Speaker 4: getting it. How is that right?

1008
00:49:08,773 --> 00:49:11,813
Speaker 2: Well, we're good on you, Shane and all the best.

1009
00:49:13,053 --> 00:49:15,133
Speaker 2: Go well, mate, thank you very much for your call.

1010
00:49:15,253 --> 00:49:17,133
Speaker 2: So are you with Shane or what do you say?

1011
00:49:17,253 --> 00:49:19,253
Speaker 2: In New Zealand has taken a lot of hits in

1012
00:49:19,373 --> 00:49:22,293
Speaker 2: recent years, What if anything can they do to rebuild

1013
00:49:22,293 --> 00:49:24,333
Speaker 2: the brand we used to be proud of. Oh, eight

1014
00:49:24,453 --> 00:49:26,093
Speaker 2: hundred eighty ten eighty is an I.

1015
00:49:26,133 --> 00:49:28,093
Speaker 4: Love my kids more than anything in the world. I

1016
00:49:28,173 --> 00:49:30,453
Speaker 4: love my two sons that they mean everything to me

1017
00:49:30,973 --> 00:49:32,573
Speaker 4: and I'm so proud of them.

1018
00:49:32,693 --> 00:49:36,453
Speaker 2: Here we go, but there it comes, every one of them.

1019
00:49:36,853 --> 00:49:40,573
Speaker 4: I know they are only sixteen and nineteen at the moment,

1020
00:49:40,653 --> 00:49:42,493
Speaker 4: but imagining having one of them fly me.

1021
00:49:45,053 --> 00:49:48,613
Speaker 2: Let other people do it first. Yeah, right, beg very

1022
00:49:48,693 --> 00:49:50,973
Speaker 2: shortly taking your calls. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1023
00:49:51,013 --> 00:49:52,253
Speaker 2: It is eighteen past two.

1024
00:49:53,653 --> 00:49:58,533
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon talk, Mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call. Oh,

1025
00:49:58,573 --> 00:50:01,093
Speaker 1: eight hundred eighty ten eighty, News Talk said.

1026
00:50:00,973 --> 00:50:04,252
Speaker 2: Be News Talk said, be. So, we are talking about

1027
00:50:04,293 --> 00:50:06,413
Speaker 2: your New Zealand. It's taking a lot of different hats

1028
00:50:06,453 --> 00:50:08,453
Speaker 2: over the past couple of years and again today with

1029
00:50:08,613 --> 00:50:10,573
Speaker 2: jet fuel prices. But the question will put to you is,

1030
00:50:10,933 --> 00:50:13,093
Speaker 2: if you've fallen out of love with in New Zealand,

1031
00:50:13,173 --> 00:50:15,293
Speaker 2: what can they do to get some of that love

1032
00:50:15,413 --> 00:50:18,133
Speaker 2: back to rebuild the brand that we all used to

1033
00:50:18,173 --> 00:50:20,653
Speaker 2: be so proud of. One hundred and eighty is the

1034
00:50:20,773 --> 00:50:29,013
Speaker 2: number to call. Hey you n Hello En, Hello in Hey,

1035
00:50:29,173 --> 00:50:30,813
Speaker 2: how are you welcome to the show?

1036
00:50:32,653 --> 00:50:32,853
Speaker 10: Why?

1037
00:50:34,333 --> 00:50:38,093
Speaker 2: Hi, Yep, we've kind of got you. What's your thoughts

1038
00:50:38,093 --> 00:50:39,652
Speaker 2: about in New Zealand, that's all right.

1039
00:50:40,373 --> 00:50:43,773
Speaker 18: I just feel like we love to bash in New

1040
00:50:43,853 --> 00:50:45,493
Speaker 18: Zealand and I don't really get it.

1041
00:50:45,693 --> 00:50:49,293
Speaker 19: I think it's such sort of pride for our country.

1042
00:50:49,413 --> 00:50:50,813
Speaker 20: It should be and.

1043
00:50:52,293 --> 00:50:54,333
Speaker 19: I've lived here for twenty.

1044
00:50:54,133 --> 00:50:57,653
Speaker 18: Three years and I will only in New Zealand.

1045
00:50:58,613 --> 00:51:03,453
Speaker 19: I just the service is great. It's faith, it's on time,

1046
00:51:03,733 --> 00:51:04,533
Speaker 19: it's reliable.

1047
00:51:05,373 --> 00:51:08,013
Speaker 18: It just feels like every time something happens, you know,

1048
00:51:08,453 --> 00:51:08,733
Speaker 18: it's not.

1049
00:51:08,813 --> 00:51:10,973
Speaker 19: A New Zealand's fault that fuel prices have gone up,

1050
00:51:11,413 --> 00:51:14,813
Speaker 19: you know. And I just think what's good for Air

1051
00:51:14,853 --> 00:51:17,133
Speaker 19: New Zealand is good for our country and we should

1052
00:51:17,373 --> 00:51:18,933
Speaker 19: be more supportive.

1053
00:51:21,093 --> 00:51:24,293
Speaker 2: Do you think there's anything that they can do to

1054
00:51:25,093 --> 00:51:27,093
Speaker 2: I suppose win Beck some of the loyalty. I get

1055
00:51:27,133 --> 00:51:29,093
Speaker 2: what you're saying that you think it's unfear in New

1056
00:51:29,173 --> 00:51:31,053
Speaker 2: Zealand's it's left to lay into in New Zealand when

1057
00:51:31,053 --> 00:51:33,133
Speaker 2: times are tough for them. But are there some things

1058
00:51:33,173 --> 00:51:35,893
Speaker 2: that they could perhaps do to try and win Beck

1059
00:51:36,013 --> 00:51:37,053
Speaker 2: those people who have hit a go.

1060
00:51:40,533 --> 00:51:45,573
Speaker 19: I think I think the service years ago was a

1061
00:51:45,613 --> 00:51:50,173
Speaker 19: little more bespoke than it is now. But yeah, I

1062
00:51:50,373 --> 00:51:52,013
Speaker 19: just I really I don't know.

1063
00:51:52,173 --> 00:51:54,413
Speaker 18: I just I will only find any Zealand, and I.

1064
00:51:54,533 --> 00:51:58,133
Speaker 19: Just feel like I've stayed loyal for you know, Yeah,

1065
00:51:58,173 --> 00:52:01,652
Speaker 19: I just I can't think, I mean, the idea.

1066
00:52:01,413 --> 00:52:03,693
Speaker 18: That prices should be lower.

1067
00:52:03,773 --> 00:52:06,013
Speaker 19: I mean, it's very expensive to fly.

1068
00:52:06,053 --> 00:52:07,933
Speaker 18: Anywhere on any airline now, and.

1069
00:52:09,573 --> 00:52:11,453
Speaker 19: You know that's the fact is life for so many

1070
00:52:11,773 --> 00:52:15,573
Speaker 19: things that are no particular airlines fault, you know, I mean,

1071
00:52:16,293 --> 00:52:22,013
Speaker 19: and I think also I guess Air New Zealand flies

1072
00:52:22,093 --> 00:52:24,413
Speaker 19: to a lot of places within New Zealand that other

1073
00:52:24,573 --> 00:52:28,093
Speaker 19: airlines are not willing to service. And so yeah, you

1074
00:52:28,133 --> 00:52:31,252
Speaker 19: know that has to which is I mean, which is great?

1075
00:52:31,413 --> 00:52:33,292
Speaker 4: They lose and they lose money on those they lose

1076
00:52:33,373 --> 00:52:34,253
Speaker 4: money on those routes.

1077
00:52:34,773 --> 00:52:35,013
Speaker 18: Yeah.

1078
00:52:35,533 --> 00:52:38,533
Speaker 19: I don't want to sound like, you know, a cheerleader

1079
00:52:38,613 --> 00:52:41,093
Speaker 19: for but I just I have I've just always had

1080
00:52:41,093 --> 00:52:42,653
Speaker 19: a really good experience.

1081
00:52:42,213 --> 00:52:46,573
Speaker 4: And I will judging your ex and you've you've come

1082
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Speaker 4: from somewhere else originally. Is that either Canada or America?

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Speaker 7: In my correct a little of both.

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Speaker 19: The I mean, when I go back home, I just

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00:53:00,053 --> 00:53:03,013
Speaker 19: dread flying on all the airlines in Canada.

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Speaker 4: Airlines in America are terrible, the way they treat you terrible. Yeah,

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00:53:08,773 --> 00:53:10,692
Speaker 4: it's awful. And then I think I don't think people

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00:53:10,693 --> 00:53:13,413
Speaker 4: who need to know how how bad I mean, there

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00:53:13,453 --> 00:53:15,373
Speaker 4: was there was an episode of south Back Park that

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00:53:15,493 --> 00:53:18,013
Speaker 4: graphically demonstrated how bad it was to fly to miss

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00:53:18,013 --> 00:53:23,292
Speaker 4: sick airlines in America. I think you go over there, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I was.

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Speaker 19: I was in Europe last year and we flew some

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00:53:26,693 --> 00:53:28,933
Speaker 19: you know, domestic alanes with it, and just like, oh

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00:53:29,053 --> 00:53:32,333
Speaker 19: my gosh, it's just the planes are dirty, the service

1096
00:53:32,453 --> 00:53:36,533
Speaker 19: is terrible. They're hoarding people in like you know, cattle

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00:53:36,733 --> 00:53:39,013
Speaker 19: to get on the flight. It's just and you think

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00:53:39,133 --> 00:53:41,652
Speaker 19: like we're kind of spoiled. And I feel like.

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Speaker 4: Everyone everyone the flight for the overhead lockers on American

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Speaker 4: domestic flight, it's.

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Speaker 19: Horrible that there are Americans fighting for you. But I mean,

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Speaker 19: you know I can say that because I but I think, yeah,

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00:53:57,893 --> 00:54:01,973
Speaker 19: it's just when I get on a flight coming back

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00:54:02,013 --> 00:54:05,533
Speaker 19: to New Zealand, for example, and I I feel like

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00:54:06,013 --> 00:54:07,453
Speaker 19: as soon as I get on that plane, like I

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00:54:07,493 --> 00:54:09,893
Speaker 19: feel like I'm home. And that says something.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean it's I've definitely experienced that.

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00:54:14,533 --> 00:54:17,453
Speaker 4: But I think for New Zealanders and for us, and

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00:54:17,533 --> 00:54:20,773
Speaker 4: you're in New Zealander, but we think about I think

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00:54:20,853 --> 00:54:23,333
Speaker 4: why we're quite critical of you in New Zealand is because,

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00:54:23,853 --> 00:54:26,293
Speaker 4: you know, and I think it was the year two

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00:54:26,333 --> 00:54:30,533
Speaker 4: thousand they bought Anset in Australia and that blew up

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Speaker 4: and they lost, you know, over a billion dollars and

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00:54:33,933 --> 00:54:37,453
Speaker 4: then the taxpayer had to invest you know, close to

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00:54:37,573 --> 00:54:40,853
Speaker 4: I think was eight hundred and fifty million, close to

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00:54:40,893 --> 00:54:43,533
Speaker 4: a billion. Maybe it was about nine hundred million back then,

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00:54:43,933 --> 00:54:48,653
Speaker 4: and then again in twenty twenty two we had to

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00:54:48,733 --> 00:54:51,933
Speaker 4: invest another nine hundred million in there. So we kind

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00:54:51,973 --> 00:54:55,413
Speaker 4: of we kind of feel like we have put a

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Speaker 4: lot of money into them, So in the back of

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Speaker 4: our mind we're like, you know, we want to be

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00:54:59,573 --> 00:55:02,693
Speaker 4: proud of you, but also as a taxpayer, we have

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Speaker 4: invested a lot, so we maybe operate with a slightly

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Speaker 4: more critical eye.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean I get you know, Yeah, I guess

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Speaker 18: I get all that.

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Speaker 19: I just I just feel like them.

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Speaker 18: Every time something happens in the world, it.

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Speaker 19: Feels like it's like, oh, my god, and how are

1130
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Speaker 19: we gonna how are we going to attack here?

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Speaker 2: And it's probably yeah, thank you very much for your

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Speaker 2: call and keen to hear from you. Oh eight one

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Speaker 2: hundred eighty ten eighty are you with an Do you

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00:55:33,733 --> 00:55:35,773
Speaker 2: think in New Zealand gets the boot put in a

1135
00:55:35,893 --> 00:55:37,573
Speaker 2: little bit too much and we need to be a

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Speaker 2: bit more patriotic. Nine two ninety two is the text

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Speaker 2: number as well, beg very shortly. It is twenty six

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Speaker 2: past two news Talk thereb.

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Speaker 1: Mad Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred

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Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on news Talk.

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Speaker 2: V twenty nine past two. Plenty of texts coming through

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Speaker 2: on nine two ninety two.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what it's flipped in favorite of you

1144
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Speaker 4: in New Zealand. Oh and the latest texts are coming through.

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00:56:01,173 --> 00:56:03,653
Speaker 4: Totally agree with current caller ain Z far superior to

1146
00:56:03,733 --> 00:56:07,013
Speaker 4: a lot of the airlines. Kiwis are winges Hi guys

1147
00:56:07,173 --> 00:56:11,453
Speaker 4: in New Zealand's International Sorry Hi guys. Air New Zealand

1148
00:56:11,453 --> 00:56:15,893
Speaker 4: International has always struggled with viability. The merger with NAC

1149
00:56:16,013 --> 00:56:18,133
Speaker 4: in the late seventies was because the Air New Zealand

1150
00:56:18,213 --> 00:56:20,133
Speaker 4: was on point of failure. And history repeats over and

1151
00:56:20,213 --> 00:56:22,493
Speaker 4: over again. It is a knowledge that the domestic flight

1152
00:56:22,613 --> 00:56:25,053
Speaker 4: subsidized the international operation. I thought it was the other

1153
00:56:25,053 --> 00:56:27,533
Speaker 4: way around. Previous governments have agreed to landing rights for

1154
00:56:27,653 --> 00:56:30,173
Speaker 4: other countries and failed to negotiate deals for Air New Zealand,

1155
00:56:30,573 --> 00:56:32,333
Speaker 4: which has put them on the back foot. The Emmerant

1156
00:56:32,333 --> 00:56:35,173
Speaker 4: story as a classic. Can they win back passengers? Possibly,

1157
00:56:35,293 --> 00:56:37,973
Speaker 4: but it has dropped from boutique to run of the mill,

1158
00:56:38,253 --> 00:56:40,013
Speaker 4: so it doesn't appeal to me. Thank you for your

1159
00:56:40,013 --> 00:56:43,413
Speaker 4: discussion today, Tina. Thank you for your text. Tina. It

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00:56:43,493 --> 00:56:45,933
Speaker 4: did feel like it was a boutique airline, didn't it,

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00:56:45,973 --> 00:56:47,893
Speaker 4: even though it was a big international airline. There was

1162
00:56:47,893 --> 00:56:50,973
Speaker 4: a friendly vibe you had, the teal color you had,

1163
00:56:51,733 --> 00:56:58,293
Speaker 4: it felt very a very innovative, yeah, and trying new things.

1164
00:56:59,133 --> 00:57:02,933
Speaker 4: And I guess as a result of all the challenges

1165
00:57:02,973 --> 00:57:07,453
Speaker 4: that they've had since COVID, just challenge after challenge after challenge,

1166
00:57:07,853 --> 00:57:09,453
Speaker 4: that sort of innovation has set to go on the

1167
00:57:09,493 --> 00:57:09,973
Speaker 4: back foot.

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00:57:10,533 --> 00:57:10,732
Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not talking innovations like not letting leaving

1170
00:57:13,093 --> 00:57:16,133
Speaker 4: you to take a coffee cup out of the crowdu lounge,

1171
00:57:16,133 --> 00:57:18,653
Speaker 4: because that's just stupid when you're blasting aviation fuel out

1172
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Speaker 4: of the back of it aircraft orse or wooden knives

1173
00:57:21,973 --> 00:57:24,733
Speaker 4: and forks when you're blasting aviation fuel out of an aircraft,

1174
00:57:25,693 --> 00:57:28,893
Speaker 4: or saying we've built this hangar out of sustainable material.

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Speaker 2: Not the innovation we're talking about.

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Speaker 4: No, No, that's called that's the greenwashing.

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Speaker 2: That's ideology, right, taking your calls on O one hundred

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Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty, join the conversation. What do you say,

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00:57:38,733 --> 00:57:40,333
Speaker 2: are you with some of the textures that are coming

1180
00:57:40,373 --> 00:57:42,213
Speaker 2: through right now that we need to be a bit

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00:57:42,333 --> 00:57:44,613
Speaker 2: kinder to ear New Zealand and stop putting the boot in?

1182
00:57:44,973 --> 00:57:46,653
Speaker 2: Or if you've fallen out of love, how can they

1183
00:57:46,773 --> 00:57:49,293
Speaker 2: win you back? Headlines with Ray Lean coming up. It

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Speaker 2: is twenty nine to.

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Speaker 14: Three US talk said be headlines with your Ride, New

1186
00:57:55,733 --> 00:58:00,213
Speaker 14: Zealand's number one taxi app. Download your Ride today. A

1187
00:58:00,373 --> 00:58:03,693
Speaker 14: jury has taken less than two days to unanimously find

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00:58:03,973 --> 00:58:07,893
Speaker 14: Michael Scott Roger guilty of murdering and dismembering a christ

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Speaker 14: chur of three in twenty twenty three. Meanwhile, Nelson man

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Speaker 14: David Sparks has pleaded guilty to a raft of charges

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Speaker 14: after breaking into his ex partner's home and setting it

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Speaker 14: on fire with people inside. Former Labor MP Paul Eagles

1193
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Speaker 14: been found to have deliberately misled a probe into excessive spending.

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00:58:28,933 --> 00:58:32,453
Speaker 14: The Auditor General's report raises multiple issues during his term

1195
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Speaker 14: as Chathamidan's Council's ce House of Travels says Air New

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Speaker 14: Zealand planning to cut about eleven hundred flights is a

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Speaker 14: pragmatic response to fuel price spikes because of.

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Speaker 4: The US Israel war on Rahan.

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Speaker 14: Eggs from endangered a Kharkardiki karaka have been retrieved from

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Speaker 14: a nest in a Nelson sanctuary and flowing to surrogate

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Speaker 14: parents in christ Church for hatching watch lost by Kiwi

1202
00:58:59,013 --> 00:59:02,653
Speaker 14: pilot during fatal World War II crash found in German

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Speaker 14: forest eight decades later.

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Speaker 2: You can find out more at ends at Herald Premium.

1205
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Speaker 14: Back to Matt Eath and Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Rayleen, and we are talking about

1207
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Speaker 2: Air New Zealand's another big issue on at their feats today.

1208
00:59:18,413 --> 00:59:20,853
Speaker 2: They're going to have to consolidate one thousand, one hundred

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00:59:20,973 --> 00:59:24,973
Speaker 2: flights due to the unprecedented cost of jet fuel. That's

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00:59:25,013 --> 00:59:28,253
Speaker 2: going to affect forty four thousand customers over the next

1211
00:59:28,613 --> 00:59:30,533
Speaker 2: eight months. But the question we put to you is

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Speaker 2: if you've fallen out of love with Air New Zealand,

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00:59:32,453 --> 00:59:34,413
Speaker 2: what can they do to when you back A couple

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Speaker 2: of texts coming through on nine two ninety two. Hi

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Speaker 2: Boys to me in New Zealand are not clear about

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Speaker 2: where they are positioned in the world of airlines. They

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00:59:42,133 --> 00:59:45,093
Speaker 2: are not premium like Emirates or budget like Ryan Air

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00:59:45,173 --> 00:59:47,333
Speaker 2: in the UK, or even Jetstar. They sit in the

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00:59:47,373 --> 00:59:49,613
Speaker 2: middle in the no man's land like dozens of other

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00:59:49,693 --> 00:59:52,013
Speaker 2: airlines and are getting lost because of it. At one

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00:59:52,093 --> 00:59:54,293
Speaker 2: time they provided a premium service at a good price,

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Speaker 2: but for many reasons that equation has flipped and customers

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00:59:57,733 --> 01:00:00,573
Speaker 2: have walked. They do need to reposition themselves, focus on

1224
01:00:00,653 --> 01:00:02,973
Speaker 2: the simple things that are important to people, cost effective

1225
01:00:03,013 --> 01:00:06,253
Speaker 2: quality service to bring people walking through those plane doors.

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Speaker 2: Again from Johns says this text a big picture. Most

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Speaker 2: people have been able to move on from COVID, but

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand is stuck with it. They had to

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Speaker 2: ground their entire fleet in the country that was locked down.

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Speaker 2: More than any others. New Zealand was quickly opened. It

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Speaker 2: takes six to twelve months to even start up. Agrounded

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Speaker 2: seven seven seven in New Zealand has to service losing

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01:00:27,213 --> 01:00:29,933
Speaker 2: regional routes. Also in New Zealand isn't allowed to operate

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01:00:29,973 --> 01:00:33,573
Speaker 2: domestically in Australia, but we allow everyone in here management

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Speaker 2: has been poor. They cut too many people through COVID

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Speaker 2: and lost a lot of knowledge and experience. In New

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Speaker 2: Zealand has been given hundreds of millions of taxpayers money

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Speaker 2: per year, and we certainly don't hear about dividends.

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Speaker 4: Do we just bailouts? Kiwis don't often don't have the

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Speaker 4: full picture. Yeah yeah, I mean do you remember back

1241
01:00:54,573 --> 01:00:58,813
Speaker 4: when the know in New Zealand bought Anset and it

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Speaker 4: just blew up? It was a total disaster. Ye, And

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Speaker 4: remember that one of the hiious moments between in New

1244
01:01:05,733 --> 01:01:10,253
Speaker 4: Zealand and Australia. Whereas when Helen was trying to leave

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01:01:10,293 --> 01:01:11,933
Speaker 4: an airport, I'm not sure which city was, and I

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01:01:11,973 --> 01:01:14,493
Speaker 4: think was Sydney, makes sense that should be in Sydney.

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Speaker 4: Maybe it was Camera, who knows, But the Anset staff

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01:01:17,773 --> 01:01:20,853
Speaker 4: would not let the Air New Zealand the plane leave

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01:01:21,973 --> 01:01:24,053
Speaker 4: because it had the New Zealand Prime Minister on it,

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01:01:24,093 --> 01:01:28,693
Speaker 4: because they were so angry about about Air New Zealand

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01:01:28,773 --> 01:01:31,093
Speaker 4: buying an set then shutting it down.

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Speaker 2: Diplomatic incident almost yeah yeah yeah.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know if that's why when in New

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01:01:36,573 --> 01:01:38,973
Speaker 4: Zealand's not allowed back in there or that was probably

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Speaker 4: a New Zealand's plan to get around not being able

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Speaker 4: to operate in Australia. I'm just speculating here. We're going

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Speaker 4: back to twenty six years here on this. But buying

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01:01:48,093 --> 01:01:50,493
Speaker 4: an set was a way for them to operate within Australia.

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Speaker 4: But that blew up in their faith and they lost

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Speaker 4: one point four billion dollars.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it could move that one in the end.

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Speaker 2: Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to

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Speaker 2: call Jason, how are you this afternoon?

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Speaker 10: Oh?

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Speaker 1: How are you good?

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01:02:04,253 --> 01:02:08,573
Speaker 20: In his and yours? Senate, I go bright better get

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01:02:08,613 --> 01:02:10,213
Speaker 20: out of the market completely and let a whole lot

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01:02:10,213 --> 01:02:12,853
Speaker 20: of regional airlines to take over and actually start servicing

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01:02:12,893 --> 01:02:14,613
Speaker 20: the people in his land with reasonable flights.

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Speaker 3: You know how it?

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Speaker 4: Would you want to know?

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Speaker 20: For one hundred and twenty nine dollars, But if I

1273
01:02:19,453 --> 01:02:23,373
Speaker 20: want to get to Gisbone or Graymouth or anywhere else,

1274
01:02:23,413 --> 01:02:26,893
Speaker 20: it's five six seven, eight hundred bucks. It's just a joke.

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Speaker 4: Would you want to see in New Zealand's continuing to

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01:02:30,693 --> 01:02:31,733
Speaker 4: operate internationally?

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Speaker 20: Oh well, I mean yeah sure, but they'll never be

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Speaker 20: able to compete with for Southern China. What's the Chinese

1279
01:02:37,413 --> 01:02:40,253
Speaker 20: airlines and they'll never What does that.

1280
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Speaker 4: Mean for New zealandes? What would that mean for New

1281
01:02:43,733 --> 01:02:46,693
Speaker 4: Zealand though Jason not having a national carrier.

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Speaker 20: Well, I mean I'll probably still always be a national carrier.

1283
01:02:49,613 --> 01:02:51,253
Speaker 20: But they need to get out of the domestic market

1284
01:02:51,293 --> 01:02:53,853
Speaker 20: because they're just destroying their domestic market for New Zealand.

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01:02:53,853 --> 01:02:56,733
Speaker 20: It's because there's stupid wipe away running their brainless business

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01:02:59,613 --> 01:03:02,613
Speaker 20: and using the domestic to drop up the international. It's

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01:03:02,733 --> 01:03:05,213
Speaker 20: just like, just go broke so that at least Kiwis

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01:03:05,253 --> 01:03:07,133
Speaker 20: can fly around New Zealand and do commerce in New

1289
01:03:07,173 --> 01:03:09,813
Speaker 20: Zealand or theout having to deal with because a bunch

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Speaker 20: of criminals that are running in New Zealand and charging

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Speaker 20: like wounded bulls.

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Speaker 4: You know you can jump on the well, I mean

1293
01:03:17,053 --> 01:03:22,293
Speaker 4: they would say, why do we put up with these.

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Speaker 20: Rogues charging like you know, hu could extortion amounts of

1295
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Speaker 20: money to travel to all the regions when other airlines

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01:03:29,093 --> 01:03:31,053
Speaker 20: can come in and do it, and the centers, the

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01:03:31,133 --> 01:03:33,333
Speaker 20: center of an airline jumps on a on a on

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Speaker 20: a route that eing New Zealand are on, they'll just

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01:03:35,173 --> 01:03:37,253
Speaker 20: drop the price until they go broke. And then because

1300
01:03:37,253 --> 01:03:39,453
Speaker 20: of the government money and then start back up again.

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Speaker 4: You know it's yeah, I mean that that does call

1302
01:03:42,253 --> 01:03:45,133
Speaker 4: you when that happens. When when they when they've run

1303
01:03:45,213 --> 01:03:48,973
Speaker 4: other other airlines out. But they would say that in

1304
01:03:49,053 --> 01:03:50,893
Speaker 4: New Zealand would say that they're losing money on the

1305
01:03:50,933 --> 01:03:53,613
Speaker 4: domestic routes. That's the that's the airline.

1306
01:03:53,693 --> 01:03:55,933
Speaker 20: Money on the domestic routes because the brains a woke

1307
01:03:56,053 --> 01:04:00,373
Speaker 20: business is so expensive to run. I mean, how come

1308
01:04:00,533 --> 01:04:03,213
Speaker 20: Chatimir aren't losing money on domestic routes. Intact, they're going

1309
01:04:03,253 --> 01:04:06,133
Speaker 20: quite nicely, thank you, using the same planes. They're all

1310
01:04:06,213 --> 01:04:10,493
Speaker 20: flying at RS. What's the different one one's got this

1311
01:04:10,733 --> 01:04:13,413
Speaker 20: massive levis than of an overhead that they can't afford.

1312
01:04:14,133 --> 01:04:16,933
Speaker 20: So they say that they're losing money. They're not losing money.

1313
01:04:17,053 --> 01:04:18,893
Speaker 20: It's just costing them too much money to put on

1314
01:04:18,973 --> 01:04:22,253
Speaker 20: the service. They just need to everyone involved in HR

1315
01:04:22,493 --> 01:04:25,053
Speaker 20: needs to be fired tomorrow and then just get back

1316
01:04:25,093 --> 01:04:27,653
Speaker 20: into running an airline and forget about all the sensive

1317
01:04:27,733 --> 01:04:29,693
Speaker 20: videos and all the shipping crack because actually what we

1318
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Speaker 20: want to do as keywids is fly the good wine

1319
01:04:32,853 --> 01:04:34,333
Speaker 20: when we need to go there for work. But you

1320
01:04:34,413 --> 01:04:37,173
Speaker 20: can't because of a thousand dollars you get.

1321
01:04:37,373 --> 01:04:38,493
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you, thank you.

1322
01:04:38,573 --> 01:04:40,853
Speaker 2: You call Jason interesting point. I just don't.

1323
01:04:41,413 --> 01:04:43,133
Speaker 4: I think most people would agree we need to get

1324
01:04:43,173 --> 01:04:44,733
Speaker 4: rid of them, that we need to shorten the videos.

1325
01:04:44,933 --> 01:04:47,013
Speaker 4: You can have your fun videos. And I know that's

1326
01:04:47,053 --> 01:04:49,293
Speaker 4: a very very very very small part of it. But

1327
01:04:49,373 --> 01:04:53,213
Speaker 4: when you've paid a lot to fly domestically and then

1328
01:04:53,253 --> 01:04:56,173
Speaker 4: you're sitting through the same video you have four times

1329
01:04:56,213 --> 01:04:58,693
Speaker 4: that week and it's way longer than it needs to

1330
01:04:58,773 --> 01:05:02,333
Speaker 4: beep and you've seen it a thousand times, You're like,

1331
01:05:02,573 --> 01:05:05,533
Speaker 4: we just get all the information we need to fly

1332
01:05:05,693 --> 01:05:09,013
Speaker 4: this plane as quickly as it can be delivered to us.

1333
01:05:09,213 --> 01:05:11,413
Speaker 4: Because you say, we need your attention. Please, even if

1334
01:05:11,453 --> 01:05:12,893
Speaker 4: you fly a lot, we'll need your attention.

1335
01:05:13,013 --> 01:05:16,373
Speaker 2: Take youre GAA regulations require you to pay attention at

1336
01:05:16,373 --> 01:05:18,013
Speaker 2: all times for your own safety.

1337
01:05:18,453 --> 01:05:21,013
Speaker 4: Even if you fly with us a lot. And then

1338
01:05:21,253 --> 01:05:24,173
Speaker 4: take you take your ear ear plugs out and watch

1339
01:05:24,453 --> 01:05:27,133
Speaker 4: and then they make you watch the longest short film

1340
01:05:27,853 --> 01:05:31,573
Speaker 4: that you've I think that's people that I talk to

1341
01:05:32,173 --> 01:05:33,773
Speaker 4: that's causing a lot of dissent in the case.

1342
01:05:33,853 --> 01:05:35,693
Speaker 2: Now, I don't think you'll save them much money, but

1343
01:05:35,813 --> 01:05:37,933
Speaker 2: it will it will build a lot of goodwill? I

1344
01:05:38,013 --> 01:05:40,733
Speaker 2: think absolutely, But what do you say? Oh, one hundred

1345
01:05:40,773 --> 01:05:42,733
Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty join the conversation.

1346
01:05:42,853 --> 01:05:45,933
Speaker 1: It is nineteen to three to have a chat with

1347
01:05:46,133 --> 01:05:49,373
Speaker 1: Matt and Tyler on eight hundred eight Matt Heath and

1348
01:05:49,493 --> 01:05:53,013
Speaker 1: Tyler Adams afternoons with Skoda? Can you crack the scoder

1349
01:05:53,093 --> 01:05:54,013
Speaker 1: code us dogs?

1350
01:05:54,053 --> 01:05:57,253
Speaker 2: That'd be for a good afternoon. Jude is sixteen to

1351
01:05:57,413 --> 01:05:59,493
Speaker 2: three and we are talking about Air New Zealand. Is

1352
01:05:59,533 --> 01:06:01,173
Speaker 2: it time we stop putting the boots in them and

1353
01:06:01,253 --> 01:06:03,853
Speaker 2: be a bit more patriotic when times are tough for

1354
01:06:04,013 --> 01:06:05,813
Speaker 2: Air New Zealand for a lot of things outside of

1355
01:06:05,853 --> 01:06:09,133
Speaker 2: their control. This time it is unprecedented Jeff prices which

1356
01:06:09,133 --> 01:06:12,853
Speaker 2: has seen them consolidate one one hundred flights affecting forty

1357
01:06:12,893 --> 01:06:15,933
Speaker 2: four thousand customers. Or is there things they can do

1358
01:06:16,093 --> 01:06:18,013
Speaker 2: to win back your support of one hundred and eighty

1359
01:06:18,053 --> 01:06:20,093
Speaker 2: ten eighty is that number to call? Sheer your thoughts.

1360
01:06:20,173 --> 01:06:22,933
Speaker 2: Couple of texts coming through in New Zealand are using

1361
01:06:23,013 --> 01:06:25,413
Speaker 2: the war as an excuse to drop their domestic routes

1362
01:06:25,413 --> 01:06:29,133
Speaker 2: they are losing money on because of half full planes.

1363
01:06:29,253 --> 01:06:32,053
Speaker 2: Notice they have predicted over and over again the fuel

1364
01:06:32,093 --> 01:06:36,413
Speaker 2: prices dropping just as the school holidays start. That's from

1365
01:06:36,533 --> 01:06:40,173
Speaker 2: Ben and this one here Agada. Guys. Like your earlier caller,

1366
01:06:40,293 --> 01:06:43,293
Speaker 2: I am a North American transplant, moved here thirty years

1367
01:06:43,293 --> 01:06:45,693
Speaker 2: ago and if flowing back to the US at least

1368
01:06:45,813 --> 01:06:48,493
Speaker 2: once a year since then, ninety five percent on Air

1369
01:06:48,533 --> 01:06:51,093
Speaker 2: New Zealand. Last year I had to make three trips

1370
01:06:51,133 --> 01:06:53,093
Speaker 2: to sort things for my eighty seven year old father,

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01:06:53,133 --> 01:06:55,413
Speaker 2: who was terminal because of a knee replacement. I had

1372
01:06:55,453 --> 01:06:58,013
Speaker 2: to fly premium economy. Luckily I could afford it. Just

1373
01:06:58,413 --> 01:07:00,773
Speaker 2: my father passed away on the tenth of the at

1374
01:07:01,173 --> 01:07:03,293
Speaker 2: February this year. Sorry to hear that because of the

1375
01:07:03,413 --> 01:07:05,933
Speaker 2: strike in New Zealand, wasn't there when I needed the most.

1376
01:07:06,053 --> 01:07:09,213
Speaker 2: I had to fly American Airlines. Their premium economy was

1377
01:07:09,253 --> 01:07:11,573
Speaker 2: a third less than Air New Zealand, and the seat

1378
01:07:11,733 --> 01:07:15,293
Speaker 2: was amazing. In comparison, the service wasn't near as good, however,

1379
01:07:16,013 --> 01:07:18,533
Speaker 2: keep the great service, focus on efficiency and on the

1380
01:07:18,613 --> 01:07:20,853
Speaker 2: core business of getting people from A to B. Find

1381
01:07:20,893 --> 01:07:25,133
Speaker 2: a way to make the pricing more competitive and one

1382
01:07:25,253 --> 01:07:27,453
Speaker 2: more plenty coming through. And there's quite a few people

1383
01:07:27,493 --> 01:07:30,533
Speaker 2: back in Air New Zealand. This one GETO guys completely

1384
01:07:30,613 --> 01:07:33,333
Speaker 2: agree with the people back in Air New Zealand. It's

1385
01:07:33,373 --> 01:07:36,533
Speaker 2: been an incredibly tough ride for them, through no fault

1386
01:07:36,693 --> 01:07:39,693
Speaker 2: of their own. They provide the regional services at a

1387
01:07:39,813 --> 01:07:42,693
Speaker 2: loss because it is Air New Zealand and they should do.

1388
01:07:42,933 --> 01:07:45,813
Speaker 2: But we need to take that into consideration and be

1389
01:07:45,933 --> 01:07:48,973
Speaker 2: grateful that they are there to provide that service. Without

1390
01:07:49,053 --> 01:07:51,893
Speaker 2: Air New Zealand, I really doubt anybody else would take

1391
01:07:51,933 --> 01:07:53,453
Speaker 2: that on because it doesn't make any money.

1392
01:07:53,653 --> 01:07:55,173
Speaker 4: Yeah, well we own fifty one per cent of them,

1393
01:07:55,173 --> 01:07:56,733
Speaker 4: so they have to do that, right, Yeah.

1394
01:07:56,773 --> 01:07:59,133
Speaker 2: That's part of the deal. Yeah, they are the national airline.

1395
01:07:59,133 --> 01:08:01,053
Speaker 2: That's what they need to do. But what do you say,

1396
01:08:01,133 --> 01:08:03,693
Speaker 2: Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

1397
01:08:03,693 --> 01:08:05,933
Speaker 2: to call get age rat.

1398
01:08:07,333 --> 01:08:11,453
Speaker 7: Gentlemen? Got asked them. I wished, I wished I had

1399
01:08:11,533 --> 01:08:13,573
Speaker 7: half an hour. But anyway, because a lot of things

1400
01:08:13,613 --> 01:08:15,493
Speaker 7: that have been said, I was going to say anyway,

1401
01:08:15,533 --> 01:08:18,293
Speaker 7: but I'd say to Jason, your last caller, what a

1402
01:08:18,372 --> 01:08:22,013
Speaker 7: disgraceful way to describe the staff running in New Zealand.

1403
01:08:22,013 --> 01:08:24,293
Speaker 7: They're not rogues. They're doing the best they can under

1404
01:08:24,333 --> 01:08:29,692
Speaker 7: pretty trying circumstances. And you know, I just I was

1405
01:08:29,812 --> 01:08:31,812
Speaker 7: very disappointed when I heard him talk like that. It

1406
01:08:31,973 --> 01:08:34,412
Speaker 7: was just emotive gobbledygook.

1407
01:08:35,412 --> 01:08:37,932
Speaker 4: Before you go on, before you go under it. Can

1408
01:08:37,973 --> 01:08:39,692
Speaker 4: I just say that we flew on the news in

1409
01:08:39,812 --> 01:08:41,972
Speaker 4: today and there was some problems and whatever. But I've

1410
01:08:41,973 --> 01:08:44,972
Speaker 4: got to say all the staff we dealt with, every

1411
01:08:45,013 --> 01:08:47,893
Speaker 4: single person, including the pilot that came out, were amazing.

1412
01:08:48,053 --> 01:08:50,293
Speaker 4: They were so professional and so friendly.

1413
01:08:50,452 --> 01:08:53,492
Speaker 7: Yeah, don't fly with Delta in America and see what

1414
01:08:55,532 --> 01:08:56,652
Speaker 7: budgety airlines like.

1415
01:08:58,973 --> 01:09:00,213
Speaker 4: Literally cattle class.

1416
01:09:00,893 --> 01:09:04,213
Speaker 7: Bloody disgraceful to hear that guy laughing about the man

1417
01:09:04,213 --> 01:09:07,053
Speaker 7: whose underpants were showing, you know, the steward. Why don't

1418
01:09:07,053 --> 01:09:09,213
Speaker 7: you just have a quiet word, hey, do you know,

1419
01:09:09,612 --> 01:09:13,932
Speaker 7: just letting you know he may not know. Don't mock

1420
01:09:14,053 --> 01:09:16,852
Speaker 7: the man because of underpins are showing. Just show some

1421
01:09:17,013 --> 01:09:19,933
Speaker 7: humility instead of laughing at him. But mate, I'm I

1422
01:09:20,053 --> 01:09:23,372
Speaker 7: am a New Zealand's run through. I've flown internationally once

1423
01:09:23,452 --> 01:09:25,253
Speaker 7: with Emirates in the last couple of years because I

1424
01:09:25,412 --> 01:09:28,692
Speaker 7: had to, and there was problems with Emirates as well.

1425
01:09:28,933 --> 01:09:32,492
Speaker 7: Everyone's got their problems. There's there's things that irned me

1426
01:09:32,612 --> 01:09:34,772
Speaker 7: about Air New Zealand, just like there's things that irk

1427
01:09:34,893 --> 01:09:37,852
Speaker 7: me about your your radio program some days. But you know,

1428
01:09:37,893 --> 01:09:41,133
Speaker 7: I'm a loyalist to News Talk ZB as well, and

1429
01:09:41,333 --> 01:09:43,812
Speaker 7: I'm a loyalist at Air New Zealand. You're just we've

1430
01:09:43,973 --> 01:09:46,972
Speaker 7: just got to tough it out. And that same guy

1431
01:09:47,053 --> 01:09:49,213
Speaker 7: who said as soon as they go out of business

1432
01:09:49,253 --> 01:09:53,093
Speaker 7: about imagine what would happen to the prices that that

1433
01:09:53,293 --> 01:09:56,372
Speaker 7: Quontus and Co. Would be charging. They've got an open market,

1434
01:09:56,452 --> 01:09:58,173
Speaker 7: they're just gonna go nuts.

1435
01:09:59,933 --> 01:10:02,013
Speaker 4: Well, thank you for toughing it out with Tyler and

1436
01:10:02,053 --> 01:10:04,532
Speaker 4: I on the afternoons. We really appreciate it.

1437
01:10:05,452 --> 01:10:07,412
Speaker 2: We've had some headwinds at times, but yeah, thank you.

1438
01:10:07,772 --> 01:10:11,213
Speaker 4: Look I'm i tap it out some days. I'm only

1439
01:10:11,293 --> 01:10:13,532
Speaker 4: just getting through today. I feel your pain.

1440
01:10:15,732 --> 01:10:17,412
Speaker 7: You know, we all have a personal choice.

1441
01:10:17,572 --> 01:10:20,093
Speaker 5: There's parts of the show or something that I don't like,

1442
01:10:20,253 --> 01:10:21,932
Speaker 5: then I have the free will.

1443
01:10:21,812 --> 01:10:22,372
Speaker 7: To turn it off.

1444
01:10:22,452 --> 01:10:26,692
Speaker 2: It doesn't happen, and it's a free service.

1445
01:10:30,053 --> 01:10:32,572
Speaker 7: Here's the one. I don't believe that they should be

1446
01:10:32,692 --> 01:10:36,293
Speaker 7: feeding and watering you between on a flight between Auckland

1447
01:10:36,372 --> 01:10:42,213
Speaker 7: and christ It drives me insane. Why do it? Surely

1448
01:10:42,333 --> 01:10:44,852
Speaker 7: to God we can survive an hour without food and water.

1449
01:10:45,333 --> 01:10:48,253
Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean like I've been thinking this whole

1450
01:10:48,293 --> 01:10:50,812
Speaker 2: conversation to the quarter hour. I know people love the

1451
01:10:50,893 --> 01:10:53,053
Speaker 2: quarterio hour and that's all about service. That's why I

1452
01:10:53,133 --> 01:10:54,732
Speaker 2: was torn to bring it up. But I just think

1453
01:10:55,253 --> 01:10:57,372
Speaker 2: at times like this, when you're worried about engines and

1454
01:10:57,452 --> 01:11:00,492
Speaker 2: jet fuel and you're still recovering from being shut down

1455
01:11:00,532 --> 01:11:02,973
Speaker 2: for two years, don't worry about koru our it.

1456
01:11:04,213 --> 01:11:05,852
Speaker 4: I'm going to push back on you too. Yesterday i

1457
01:11:05,893 --> 01:11:09,453
Speaker 4: flew from Wellington to Auckland and I've very much appreciated

1458
01:11:09,492 --> 01:11:11,293
Speaker 4: the snack of change salting wing goo chips they handed

1459
01:11:11,372 --> 01:11:12,253
Speaker 4: me and the glass of water.

1460
01:11:12,372 --> 01:11:15,012
Speaker 2: They are lovely. Oh you didn't go for a wife, didn't.

1461
01:11:14,772 --> 01:11:15,253
Speaker 4: Go for a woman.

1462
01:11:15,412 --> 01:11:21,013
Speaker 7: And I'll take my last my last comment as anyone

1463
01:11:21,093 --> 01:11:24,772
Speaker 7: who complains about Corey Lounge, and I use it. I

1464
01:11:25,933 --> 01:11:29,812
Speaker 7: love the Corey Lounge. Bloody good staff and some of them,

1465
01:11:29,973 --> 01:11:31,812
Speaker 7: you know, some of this In New Zealand. Staff from

1466
01:11:31,812 --> 01:11:36,412
Speaker 7: there get treated appallingly by the public, absolutely appallingly. And

1467
01:11:37,093 --> 01:11:40,013
Speaker 7: you know, here's your here's your choice, guys. Go and

1468
01:11:40,133 --> 01:11:42,732
Speaker 7: sit out with the great unwashed and sit next to

1469
01:11:42,853 --> 01:11:47,133
Speaker 7: some peasant who's sucking the burger king burger and milkshaked

1470
01:11:47,173 --> 01:11:50,572
Speaker 7: through with gappy teeth, and you know, instead of sitting

1471
01:11:50,933 --> 01:11:53,572
Speaker 7: and stears it sitting in a quiet corner of the

1472
01:11:53,612 --> 01:11:56,892
Speaker 7: Curry Lounge having a nice beer and some cheese and crackers.

1473
01:11:57,893 --> 01:12:00,692
Speaker 4: So right, and I'll continue to do what I've learned

1474
01:12:00,692 --> 01:12:02,652
Speaker 4: from you, girard. You don't think that people should be

1475
01:12:02,692 --> 01:12:05,293
Speaker 4: judge faving their undies out, but gappy teeth, you want

1476
01:12:05,372 --> 01:12:08,973
Speaker 4: to have a go at them. Hey, I know I

1477
01:12:09,093 --> 01:12:11,732
Speaker 4: had a friend that seriously complained to me because of

1478
01:12:11,973 --> 01:12:15,173
Speaker 4: the the soup at the Crow Lounge. It's like they

1479
01:12:15,293 --> 01:12:17,932
Speaker 4: used to always do three flavors. It was always like Kumera,

1480
01:12:18,093 --> 01:12:21,173
Speaker 4: blue cheese and beans, and now sometimes they're only doing

1481
01:12:21,572 --> 01:12:22,932
Speaker 4: two flavors in their soup.

1482
01:12:23,093 --> 01:12:23,612
Speaker 17: And I'm like.

1483
01:12:25,213 --> 01:12:29,973
Speaker 4: Terrim So that is the definition of Yeah, they do

1484
01:12:30,093 --> 01:12:32,452
Speaker 4: great soup. Whoever comes up with their soup I'm going

1485
01:12:32,492 --> 01:12:34,732
Speaker 4: to say something very positive about in New Zealand. Who

1486
01:12:34,772 --> 01:12:38,133
Speaker 4: he ever comes up with their soup recipes top notch.

1487
01:12:38,253 --> 01:12:40,412
Speaker 2: Give that man a medal that that that person you

1488
01:12:40,532 --> 01:12:41,213
Speaker 2: never done me wrong.

1489
01:12:41,572 --> 01:12:43,932
Speaker 7: Mind has spicy beings for breakfast.

1490
01:12:46,812 --> 01:12:48,372
Speaker 2: Clearly it's popular. They keep serving it.

1491
01:12:50,333 --> 01:12:51,572
Speaker 7: Maybe they've got a folk deal on it.

1492
01:12:51,652 --> 01:12:58,133
Speaker 4: But anyway, Yeah, and thank you for for sticking with

1493
01:12:58,293 --> 01:13:00,372
Speaker 4: us against the hard you know, through the hard times.

1494
01:13:01,053 --> 01:13:04,013
Speaker 4: I know sometimes people just feel their hand reaching for

1495
01:13:04,053 --> 01:13:06,612
Speaker 4: the dial, especially when Tyler's talking. I do it as well.

1496
01:13:06,893 --> 01:13:09,333
Speaker 2: We've had some rocket times. Thank you very much to

1497
01:13:09,452 --> 01:13:11,412
Speaker 2: rad All right, we're going to play some messages, but

1498
01:13:11,492 --> 01:13:12,973
Speaker 2: taking more of your calls. Oh eight one hundred and

1499
01:13:13,013 --> 01:13:15,612
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty. If you've fallen out of love with

1500
01:13:15,732 --> 01:13:18,372
Speaker 2: their New Zealand, how can they get your love back back?

1501
01:13:18,412 --> 01:13:21,892
Speaker 1: For surely the issues that affect you and a bit

1502
01:13:21,933 --> 01:13:24,532
Speaker 1: of fun along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams

1503
01:13:24,692 --> 01:13:28,932
Speaker 1: afternoons us talk said, be are you ready to crack

1504
01:13:29,293 --> 01:13:30,333
Speaker 1: the scoder code?

1505
01:13:31,772 --> 01:13:34,173
Speaker 2: Yes, here we go, so Mat said, Scota want to

1506
01:13:34,213 --> 01:13:36,772
Speaker 2: send you and a friend to experience the Tour de

1507
01:13:36,853 --> 01:13:40,652
Speaker 2: fronts when you play Skoda codes. But if you could

1508
01:13:40,772 --> 01:13:44,173
Speaker 2: do with a bit of assistance cracking today's Scoda code,

1509
01:13:44,612 --> 01:13:46,333
Speaker 2: you'll be wanting a clue and we can help with that.

1510
01:13:47,173 --> 01:13:49,532
Speaker 4: I'm what you push when you want to feel like

1511
01:13:49,652 --> 01:13:52,412
Speaker 4: you're winning the Tour de France. I'm what you push

1512
01:13:53,173 --> 01:13:55,892
Speaker 4: when you want to feel like you're winning the toward deform.

1513
01:13:56,093 --> 01:13:58,973
Speaker 2: There you go, That will make all all sense. To

1514
01:13:59,013 --> 01:14:01,893
Speaker 2: you when you visit Skoda dot co dot Nz to

1515
01:14:01,933 --> 01:14:05,173
Speaker 2: be in to win that fantastic prize to the Tour

1516
01:14:05,293 --> 01:14:08,053
Speaker 2: de France. We're confident you will crack that code, all

1517
01:14:08,333 --> 01:14:10,452
Speaker 2: thanks to our mates at Scota. You've got to be

1518
01:14:10,612 --> 01:14:14,092
Speaker 2: into one. Right back to our discussion about Air New Zealand.

1519
01:14:14,133 --> 01:14:15,973
Speaker 2: If you've fallen out of love with the airline and

1520
01:14:16,053 --> 01:14:18,932
Speaker 2: your loyalty is dropping, what can they do to get

1521
01:14:18,973 --> 01:14:21,053
Speaker 2: it back? Just a a quick text here you get

1522
01:14:21,053 --> 01:14:22,932
Speaker 2: our guys in New Zealand needs to have regular pricing

1523
01:14:22,973 --> 01:14:25,333
Speaker 2: for domestic flights and not expect people to book months

1524
01:14:25,412 --> 01:14:28,372
Speaker 2: in advance would go a long way. Aaron, We've got

1525
01:14:28,412 --> 01:14:29,932
Speaker 2: about sixty seconds. How are you my friend?

1526
01:14:30,812 --> 01:14:32,532
Speaker 3: Okay, that's pretty quick.

1527
01:14:33,532 --> 01:14:33,732
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1528
01:14:34,173 --> 01:14:36,652
Speaker 3: I think people are upset with their New Zealand because

1529
01:14:37,053 --> 01:14:39,492
Speaker 3: they know it could be better. They know it is

1530
01:14:40,053 --> 01:14:43,253
Speaker 3: technically and often the best airline in the world, and

1531
01:14:43,333 --> 01:14:47,732
Speaker 3: it's like your underperforming child when they don't quite or

1532
01:14:47,853 --> 01:14:51,013
Speaker 3: yourself when you don't live up to your parents' expectations.

1533
01:14:51,053 --> 01:14:53,692
Speaker 3: I think that's where the criticism comes from, because they

1534
01:14:53,812 --> 01:14:56,692
Speaker 3: are that good. But I will quickly call this on

1535
01:14:56,853 --> 01:14:59,692
Speaker 3: their changing of flights on the fuel spike the fuel

1536
01:14:59,732 --> 01:15:02,053
Speaker 3: spike has only been the last few days. It's the

1537
01:15:02,093 --> 01:15:04,372
Speaker 3: same as what happened in twenty twenty two, one week

1538
01:15:04,532 --> 01:15:07,133
Speaker 3: come out. As we come out of COVID, they face this,

1539
01:15:07,492 --> 01:15:10,412
Speaker 3: but in Zealo it's fueled six months into the future.

1540
01:15:11,013 --> 01:15:14,572
Speaker 3: So I'm just I'm not quite buying what they're saying

1541
01:15:14,612 --> 01:15:16,852
Speaker 3: around that. But as far as the air lines go,

1542
01:15:17,093 --> 01:15:19,692
Speaker 3: they are the best to favored domestic in America. That'll

1543
01:15:19,732 --> 01:15:21,012
Speaker 3: be the biggest the air line in the world.

1544
01:15:21,053 --> 01:15:23,772
Speaker 4: My god, I mean that is the truth. And thank

1545
01:15:23,812 --> 01:15:25,412
Speaker 4: you so much and how well said in such a

1546
01:15:25,412 --> 01:15:27,213
Speaker 4: short amount of time. Really really appreciate that.

1547
01:15:27,293 --> 01:15:29,372
Speaker 2: Aaron bang on right, Oh, one hundred and eighty ten

1548
01:15:29,412 --> 01:15:31,492
Speaker 2: eighty is the number to coour news, sport and weather

1549
01:15:31,572 --> 01:15:35,173
Speaker 2: as fast approaching. Great to have you company as always,

1550
01:15:35,173 --> 01:15:36,972
Speaker 2: you're listening to Matt and Tylers. Stay right here, will

1551
01:15:36,973 --> 01:15:37,452
Speaker 2: be back soon.

1552
01:15:38,652 --> 01:15:42,973
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

1553
01:15:43,333 --> 01:15:47,173
Speaker 1: everything in between. It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons

1554
01:15:47,253 --> 01:15:49,492
Speaker 1: Squid Good News Talk said, be.

1555
01:15:51,013 --> 01:15:53,812
Speaker 2: Very good afternoon, dear, welcome back into the show. Great

1556
01:15:53,812 --> 01:15:56,532
Speaker 2: to have your company as always on this Thursday afternoon,

1557
01:15:56,652 --> 01:15:57,532
Speaker 2: seven past three.

1558
01:15:58,053 --> 01:16:00,812
Speaker 4: And great to be in Hamilton, isn't it on our

1559
01:16:00,893 --> 01:16:03,372
Speaker 4: way to the Todonger Business Awards. Hopefully we'll make it.

1560
01:16:04,013 --> 01:16:06,852
Speaker 4: As we said earlier in the show, our plane was delayed.

1561
01:16:07,253 --> 01:16:09,213
Speaker 4: No fault of your New Zealand. Is this some pisky

1562
01:16:09,412 --> 01:16:13,372
Speaker 4: volcano that blew up? And as a result, flights couldn't

1563
01:16:13,372 --> 01:16:15,973
Speaker 4: fly into Totonga out of Auckland and I imagine out

1564
01:16:15,973 --> 01:16:18,852
Speaker 4: of anywhere. Ye very Auckland centric of miss imagine imagine

1565
01:16:18,853 --> 01:16:21,412
Speaker 4: that out of anywhere. So we rushed down to Hamilton

1566
01:16:21,532 --> 01:16:24,293
Speaker 4: to do our show as a middle gap before we

1567
01:16:24,412 --> 01:16:26,372
Speaker 4: have to be on stage at five point thirty in

1568
01:16:27,692 --> 01:16:28,013
Speaker 4: tot On.

1569
01:16:28,173 --> 01:16:28,852
Speaker 2: It's going to be tight?

1570
01:16:29,093 --> 01:16:29,612
Speaker 4: Is it possible?

1571
01:16:29,732 --> 01:16:31,293
Speaker 2: It's going to be tight. We'll see how we go.

1572
01:16:31,612 --> 01:16:34,093
Speaker 2: I mean, you're a very safe driver, but your your

1573
01:16:34,173 --> 01:16:35,013
Speaker 2: number when you need to be.

1574
01:16:35,213 --> 01:16:37,893
Speaker 4: I want to complain about the you know, when you

1575
01:16:38,452 --> 01:16:43,053
Speaker 4: use your maps and you put in a location en

1576
01:16:43,133 --> 01:16:46,412
Speaker 4: zied me building Hamilton and it says that'll take this

1577
01:16:46,532 --> 01:16:48,652
Speaker 4: amount of time. And it used to be that you

1578
01:16:48,692 --> 01:16:51,572
Speaker 4: could change that, yep, but now the algorithm has got

1579
01:16:52,013 --> 01:16:55,372
Speaker 4: so good that it never changes. So we were looking

1580
01:16:55,452 --> 01:16:58,093
Speaker 4: at that time of arrival today that was making it

1581
01:16:58,372 --> 01:17:01,333
Speaker 4: very very tight for doing the show, and it just stayed.

1582
01:17:01,372 --> 01:17:04,213
Speaker 4: It didn't move, didn't move off that one, that one

1583
01:17:04,333 --> 01:17:07,133
Speaker 4: number to the minute for the for the whole drive

1584
01:17:07,253 --> 01:17:08,293
Speaker 4: from from Auckland to Hamil.

1585
01:17:08,452 --> 01:17:09,892
Speaker 2: When you said that, I don't believe you. So you're

1586
01:17:09,893 --> 01:17:11,812
Speaker 2: going to knock amnute off that easy, mate, that's going

1587
01:17:11,853 --> 01:17:14,492
Speaker 2: to go down from one hour seventeen to one hour sixteen.

1588
01:17:15,173 --> 01:17:17,293
Speaker 2: They didn't shift at all, and you were nimble. You

1589
01:17:17,372 --> 01:17:19,452
Speaker 2: were taking away shortcuts, very safe, I've got to say.

1590
01:17:19,532 --> 01:17:21,492
Speaker 2: But you know, there was some phenomenal driving.

1591
01:17:21,772 --> 01:17:24,852
Speaker 4: Tyler was like, come on, five k above the speed,

1592
01:17:24,933 --> 01:17:29,293
Speaker 4: lammite man, Come on, put your foot down, Matt, come on,

1593
01:17:29,612 --> 01:17:32,572
Speaker 4: I said, no, Tyler, I drive the friendly way. I

1594
01:17:32,732 --> 01:17:34,852
Speaker 4: drive within You know, I can't tell my kids to

1595
01:17:34,933 --> 01:17:37,852
Speaker 4: drive safely so I feel comfortable when they're driving between

1596
01:17:37,933 --> 01:17:41,293
Speaker 4: towns if I don't stick to the speed on my

1597
01:17:42,053 --> 01:17:42,932
Speaker 4: on my journeys.

1598
01:17:43,093 --> 01:17:45,572
Speaker 2: Okay, good ethics from you, mate, You stay true to

1599
01:17:45,612 --> 01:17:48,372
Speaker 2: that right bag to our discussion about Inar New Zealand.

1600
01:17:48,492 --> 01:17:50,572
Speaker 2: If you've fallen out of love with the airline, what

1601
01:17:50,652 --> 01:17:52,372
Speaker 2: can they do to win you back? A couple of

1602
01:17:52,452 --> 01:17:53,333
Speaker 2: texts coming through.

1603
01:17:53,293 --> 01:17:55,772
Speaker 4: People complaining about in New Zealand like they do with

1604
01:17:55,893 --> 01:17:57,852
Speaker 4: the All Blacks. You can't win them all, but you

1605
01:17:57,973 --> 01:18:01,213
Speaker 4: will like use them because they know when comparing either

1606
01:18:01,333 --> 01:18:03,732
Speaker 4: of the two on the world stage across the spectrum,

1607
01:18:03,772 --> 01:18:06,213
Speaker 4: you argue that they're still rated as one of the best.

1608
01:18:06,333 --> 01:18:08,652
Speaker 4: So people just need to stop whining and be more

1609
01:18:08,692 --> 01:18:12,452
Speaker 4: supportive if you don't fly with Jetstar or support another

1610
01:18:12,492 --> 01:18:16,372
Speaker 4: international team. It's simple as that. Chairs I think we

1611
01:18:16,452 --> 01:18:18,932
Speaker 4: do have kind of an approach to in New Zealand

1612
01:18:19,013 --> 01:18:23,013
Speaker 4: that's a bit similar to to the All Blacks we

1613
01:18:23,093 --> 01:18:26,812
Speaker 4: did in the past because they were absolute world beaters

1614
01:18:26,853 --> 01:18:29,732
Speaker 4: for a long time. I mean, they had an you know,

1615
01:18:29,812 --> 01:18:32,173
Speaker 4: they had a terrible anset disaster that we've talked about

1616
01:18:32,173 --> 01:18:34,772
Speaker 4: a bit this morning in two thousand. Yes, that was

1617
01:18:35,652 --> 01:18:36,412
Speaker 4: a bit of a humiliation.

1618
01:18:36,572 --> 01:18:37,213
Speaker 2: That was a misstep.

1619
01:18:37,333 --> 01:18:40,612
Speaker 4: Yep, that was a misstep. But between then and the

1620
01:18:40,812 --> 01:18:43,133
Speaker 4: other misstep around COVID when the government had to bail

1621
01:18:43,133 --> 01:18:46,812
Speaker 4: them out again with another roughly nine hundred million, they

1622
01:18:47,093 --> 01:18:49,452
Speaker 4: just soared for quite some time. Part of the pun

1623
01:18:49,612 --> 01:18:51,812
Speaker 4: they did they were flying. Part in the pun they

1624
01:18:51,812 --> 01:18:52,372
Speaker 4: were amazing.

1625
01:18:52,812 --> 01:18:57,613
Speaker 2: Award after award, the Darling of the International Airline Industry Innovative,

1626
01:18:58,372 --> 01:19:02,253
Speaker 2: they had their safety videos that were racking up millions

1627
01:19:02,293 --> 01:19:05,612
Speaker 2: and millions of views globally because a look.

1628
01:19:05,532 --> 01:19:08,012
Speaker 4: At this airline. It's doing these funny safety video.

1629
01:19:08,853 --> 01:19:11,213
Speaker 2: This is amazing money Old New Zealand. We love you.

1630
01:19:11,293 --> 01:19:13,852
Speaker 4: New Zealand's normally safety videos just tell you some information,

1631
01:19:13,973 --> 01:19:15,893
Speaker 4: but they've got a whole bloody pilava going on. This

1632
01:19:16,013 --> 01:19:18,412
Speaker 4: is this is amazing and just yeah, as you said, Tyler,

1633
01:19:18,612 --> 01:19:22,013
Speaker 4: award after reward and they became our all Blacks of

1634
01:19:22,133 --> 01:19:24,772
Speaker 4: the sky. And you know, they heavily leaned into the

1635
01:19:24,812 --> 01:19:27,732
Speaker 4: all Blacks as well with the with their sponsorship and

1636
01:19:27,853 --> 01:19:31,892
Speaker 4: their art or their the liveries of their.

1637
01:19:31,812 --> 01:19:32,492
Speaker 2: Planes they did.

1638
01:19:32,652 --> 01:19:36,452
Speaker 4: Yeah, so they were so they were the all Blacks

1639
01:19:36,452 --> 01:19:39,572
Speaker 4: of the sky. But judging by that person that came

1640
01:19:39,652 --> 01:19:43,293
Speaker 4: up to you, Tyler, when we were after our flight

1641
01:19:43,412 --> 01:19:46,293
Speaker 4: was canceled, he came up to us and he was

1642
01:19:46,412 --> 01:19:49,412
Speaker 4: just so angry at Air New Zealand, and there was

1643
01:19:49,452 --> 01:19:51,732
Speaker 4: other people around him as well that were just this

1644
01:19:51,893 --> 01:19:55,253
Speaker 4: isn't Air New Zealand's fault that there's a volcano that

1645
01:19:55,412 --> 01:19:57,253
Speaker 4: stopped their flight getting into where it needs to go.

1646
01:19:57,532 --> 01:19:59,732
Speaker 4: And it's not Air New Zealand's fault that there's a

1647
01:19:59,933 --> 01:20:03,213
Speaker 4: problem in the Middle East and as a result, fuel

1648
01:20:03,213 --> 01:20:05,013
Speaker 4: prices are going to go crazy. Yeah, none of these

1649
01:20:05,053 --> 01:20:08,293
Speaker 4: things in New Zealand's fault, but I think Kiwi's ability

1650
01:20:08,452 --> 01:20:11,212
Speaker 4: to give them a bit of slack seems to have disappeared.

1651
01:20:11,213 --> 01:20:12,213
Speaker 4: I me and how angry was that guy?

1652
01:20:12,612 --> 01:20:14,532
Speaker 2: Very angry? He was waiting for a chance to events

1653
01:20:14,532 --> 01:20:16,213
Speaker 2: because we didn't say anything. We just came out and

1654
01:20:16,213 --> 01:20:18,013
Speaker 2: obviously we were talking a bit quietly about how we're

1655
01:20:18,013 --> 01:20:21,172
Speaker 2: going to get down to Toadonger and get into Hamilton.

1656
01:20:21,372 --> 01:20:22,692
Speaker 2: And then he heard us talking about it, and he

1657
01:20:22,772 --> 01:20:25,133
Speaker 2: said straight away to say, how bad is this? I'm

1658
01:20:25,173 --> 01:20:26,452
Speaker 2: going to jump on a bus that it's going to

1659
01:20:26,492 --> 01:20:29,293
Speaker 2: cost me four hundred bucks. So, you know, I suppose

1660
01:20:29,372 --> 01:20:31,572
Speaker 2: sometimes we had a point there, because he was now

1661
01:20:31,652 --> 01:20:33,932
Speaker 2: having to take a bus to Totonger. He thought, well,

1662
01:20:33,973 --> 01:20:37,732
Speaker 2: don't I get a complete refund on my ear for you?

1663
01:20:38,452 --> 01:20:38,652
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1664
01:20:38,812 --> 01:20:39,492
Speaker 4: Surely he should.

1665
01:20:39,933 --> 01:20:41,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, not fair enough to Oh eight one hundred and

1666
01:20:41,692 --> 01:20:44,133
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. I think

1667
01:20:44,173 --> 01:20:45,333
Speaker 2: we've got d On on the line.

1668
01:20:45,372 --> 01:20:49,492
Speaker 7: Get a d On gout here, he goes, very good.

1669
01:20:49,572 --> 01:20:54,572
Speaker 10: What I thought, Well, my thoughts are this. My dad

1670
01:20:54,692 --> 01:20:57,933
Speaker 10: worked for New Zealand in the seventies. I worked for

1671
01:20:57,973 --> 01:21:02,732
Speaker 10: the New Zealand when Fife was king and that worked

1672
01:21:02,853 --> 01:21:05,053
Speaker 10: really well, and then somebody else took over and it

1673
01:21:05,093 --> 01:21:10,173
Speaker 10: fell apart. And now in New Zealand should basically get

1674
01:21:10,253 --> 01:21:16,333
Speaker 10: out of the national routes and let other little airlines

1675
01:21:16,372 --> 01:21:19,933
Speaker 10: take over. My reason for thinking that is recently I

1676
01:21:20,093 --> 01:21:23,173
Speaker 10: went down to the Nelton the Fringe to take part

1677
01:21:24,293 --> 01:21:27,932
Speaker 10: and that was awesome, but it cost us a bomb

1678
01:21:28,652 --> 01:21:34,652
Speaker 10: just flying not in New Zealand. Other airlines it would

1679
01:21:34,652 --> 01:21:37,812
Speaker 10: have cost us a hell of a lot more. My

1680
01:21:38,333 --> 01:21:43,612
Speaker 10: collab could have flown to Japan and back twice on

1681
01:21:43,933 --> 01:21:50,093
Speaker 10: in New Zealand, but we flew down, had to make

1682
01:21:50,173 --> 01:21:54,013
Speaker 10: a change and it cost us flying the Orange and

1683
01:21:54,492 --> 01:22:01,452
Speaker 10: then going on the flight from Wellington to Nelson on Sounds,

1684
01:22:02,772 --> 01:22:05,333
Speaker 10: we had to make a change. Coming back cost us

1685
01:22:05,372 --> 01:22:10,133
Speaker 10: another fifty cost us teen hundred bucks. But if we've

1686
01:22:10,173 --> 01:22:14,132
Speaker 10: gone in New Zealand it would have cost us around

1687
01:22:14,612 --> 01:22:19,133
Speaker 10: three grand and that's just not right. So I reckon

1688
01:22:19,452 --> 01:22:21,532
Speaker 10: a New Zealand needs to duck out of the of

1689
01:22:21,652 --> 01:22:24,812
Speaker 10: the national like the like the routes that we we

1690
01:22:24,973 --> 01:22:28,372
Speaker 10: do that right now and focus on what we do

1691
01:22:28,692 --> 01:22:31,492
Speaker 10: really well, which is welcome, welcoming home.

1692
01:22:31,772 --> 01:22:33,333
Speaker 8: Basically, it was just what Quinas does.

1693
01:22:35,093 --> 01:22:37,732
Speaker 10: And yeah, that's what those are my thoughts.

1694
01:22:38,253 --> 01:22:42,372
Speaker 4: Having worked for Proud, I don't wonder how, how the

1695
01:22:42,732 --> 01:22:45,213
Speaker 4: if that is possible though, with a bunch of little

1696
01:22:45,293 --> 01:22:50,333
Speaker 4: airlines doing every route. So do you mean if every

1697
01:22:50,812 --> 01:22:53,973
Speaker 4: every town has its every town has its own airline

1698
01:22:54,013 --> 01:22:56,372
Speaker 4: that does its roots, that there's a there's an there's

1699
01:22:56,372 --> 01:22:59,452
Speaker 4: an airline that flies and roots, you know, how do

1700
01:22:59,492 --> 01:23:00,852
Speaker 4: you think it would work on?

1701
01:23:01,532 --> 01:23:09,732
Speaker 10: So what happened was when five was in charge, there

1702
01:23:09,772 --> 01:23:15,932
Speaker 10: were a lot of rural and regional routes that were

1703
01:23:16,452 --> 01:23:18,892
Speaker 10: going on, and a certain man who is eighty years

1704
01:23:18,933 --> 01:23:23,572
Speaker 10: of age, who is the Kingmeister, used to ring us

1705
01:23:23,652 --> 01:23:25,812
Speaker 10: up and say can I book a flight from here?

1706
01:23:26,053 --> 01:23:30,852
Speaker 10: And and we'd say yes, that's all good. And then

1707
01:23:31,372 --> 01:23:35,452
Speaker 10: a certain person who's now letting our government took over

1708
01:23:35,492 --> 01:23:38,173
Speaker 10: the airline and he said we're not going to have

1709
01:23:38,253 --> 01:23:41,452
Speaker 10: this anymore, and he got rid of all those or

1710
01:23:41,532 --> 01:23:46,692
Speaker 10: a lot of those those routes. And what's happened is

1711
01:23:46,933 --> 01:23:52,732
Speaker 10: that slowly and surely the fares have gone up.

1712
01:23:53,772 --> 01:23:54,732
Speaker 20: No, that's not true.

1713
01:23:54,933 --> 01:23:55,732
Speaker 10: Fares don't go up.

1714
01:23:57,213 --> 01:23:58,173
Speaker 8: You have to buy early.

1715
01:23:58,772 --> 01:24:06,092
Speaker 10: That's just made that clear. But what what what should

1716
01:24:06,173 --> 01:24:09,812
Speaker 10: happen is, Yes, there are regional airline that are existing

1717
01:24:09,933 --> 01:24:14,293
Speaker 10: right now that could be fostered by in New Zealand

1718
01:24:14,732 --> 01:24:19,452
Speaker 10: quite clearly if it was done well. So sounds there.

1719
01:24:20,973 --> 01:24:23,093
Speaker 10: I can't think of the other other ones right now,

1720
01:24:23,173 --> 01:24:31,293
Speaker 10: but yes, New Zealand could origin are yes, Origin Golden Bay,

1721
01:24:31,412 --> 01:24:35,412
Speaker 10: I think it's another one. There are a number of

1722
01:24:35,452 --> 01:24:37,933
Speaker 10: them that could be fostered by in New Zealand And

1723
01:24:38,293 --> 01:24:42,612
Speaker 10: and that would work really well. And we could actually

1724
01:24:42,772 --> 01:24:47,093
Speaker 10: have not a national airline as such, but we could

1725
01:24:47,133 --> 01:24:52,452
Speaker 10: have a stream of of of airlines that worked.

1726
01:24:53,572 --> 01:24:56,692
Speaker 4: That would be what would what would stop those airlines?

1727
01:24:56,732 --> 01:24:58,812
Speaker 4: If they're the if they're the only only game in town,

1728
01:24:58,893 --> 01:25:01,812
Speaker 4: what's to stop them just just pumping up the price beyond.

1729
01:25:02,772 --> 01:25:03,253
Speaker 10: All of us?

1730
01:25:05,812 --> 01:25:06,293
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.

1731
01:25:06,612 --> 01:25:08,253
Speaker 4: I mean we're we're in an interesting situa to a

1732
01:25:08,452 --> 01:25:09,012
Speaker 4: in this country.

1733
01:25:09,053 --> 01:25:09,213
Speaker 16: Den.

1734
01:25:09,572 --> 01:25:12,092
Speaker 4: You know when people come here from Europe or Japan

1735
01:25:12,893 --> 01:25:15,972
Speaker 4: or you know, the UK's Europe, but they are amazed

1736
01:25:16,013 --> 01:25:18,692
Speaker 4: how much we fly. We're a very flying nation. It's

1737
01:25:18,732 --> 01:25:21,293
Speaker 4: because we don't have high speed rail and we're a long,

1738
01:25:21,893 --> 01:25:27,213
Speaker 4: thin nation with population centers that are a long way apart,

1739
01:25:27,612 --> 01:25:31,972
Speaker 4: and so we're quite a challenging aviation market in that respect.

1740
01:25:32,013 --> 01:25:35,732
Speaker 4: But we're also big flyers. And if you're in Dunedin,

1741
01:25:36,213 --> 01:25:38,452
Speaker 4: say for example, where I come from, your options to

1742
01:25:38,492 --> 01:25:39,532
Speaker 4: get to Auckland.

1743
01:25:40,772 --> 01:25:41,172
Speaker 2: Minimal.

1744
01:25:41,973 --> 01:25:44,532
Speaker 4: We have to fly whatever the price is, pretty much.

1745
01:25:46,772 --> 01:25:49,093
Speaker 10: I think that's another conversation to be had. I mean,

1746
01:25:49,772 --> 01:25:53,452
Speaker 10: if you're talking about actual tourists, I works on tourism

1747
01:25:53,572 --> 01:25:56,932
Speaker 10: for a long time, so that's another conversation to be had.

1748
01:25:58,293 --> 01:26:01,852
Speaker 10: I would say, drive the country to any tourist that

1749
01:26:01,933 --> 01:26:05,452
Speaker 10: comes here, because it only takes two days to drive

1750
01:26:05,532 --> 01:26:08,652
Speaker 10: the country. But if you want to actually spect I'm here,

1751
01:26:08,973 --> 01:26:13,293
Speaker 10: take two weeks. But you know, if you really want

1752
01:26:13,372 --> 01:26:18,213
Speaker 10: to talk to a New Zealander, for example, I know you, Matt.

1753
01:26:18,293 --> 01:26:21,412
Speaker 10: You you fly around all over the place for at

1754
01:26:21,452 --> 01:26:24,293
Speaker 10: the time, and you probably have somebody who is an

1755
01:26:24,333 --> 01:26:28,053
Speaker 10: agent who books stuff and gets the best rates. But

1756
01:26:29,133 --> 01:26:33,933
Speaker 10: as a as a performer myself, I don't have that

1757
01:26:34,452 --> 01:26:39,612
Speaker 10: right to find the best rates, so I have to

1758
01:26:39,812 --> 01:26:43,932
Speaker 10: go off, you know, to Pook four weeks in advance

1759
01:26:44,133 --> 01:26:48,532
Speaker 10: or whatever. As as a person who you know needs

1760
01:26:48,532 --> 01:26:52,092
Speaker 10: to go and visit their daughter and to Paul tomorrow,

1761
01:26:52,812 --> 01:26:56,812
Speaker 10: you know we don't have those. If you understand what

1762
01:26:56,853 --> 01:27:01,852
Speaker 10: I'm saying, it's what we need is something that has

1763
01:27:01,973 --> 01:27:09,333
Speaker 10: not predicated by just one one company. And I didn't

1764
01:27:09,372 --> 01:27:17,892
Speaker 10: play England to go to Nelson and I've had a great,

1765
01:27:18,412 --> 01:27:19,253
Speaker 10: great experience.

1766
01:27:21,893 --> 01:27:24,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's an interesting point. But I've just

1767
01:27:24,133 --> 01:27:27,012
Speaker 2: been looking into the story of Aaran Nelson which operated

1768
01:27:27,053 --> 01:27:29,692
Speaker 2: for some time. It was a subsidiary Air New Zealand,

1769
01:27:29,812 --> 01:27:32,852
Speaker 2: but it did come to an end in New Zealand

1770
01:27:32,893 --> 01:27:37,333
Speaker 2: brought out Ian Nelson entirely and arguably they needed to

1771
01:27:37,452 --> 01:27:40,093
Speaker 2: consolidate because it wasn't making much business sense to have

1772
01:27:40,213 --> 01:27:42,852
Speaker 2: that subsidiary just operating out of Aaron Nelson. They had

1773
01:27:42,893 --> 01:27:44,572
Speaker 2: an aging fleet that they needed to have a big

1774
01:27:44,652 --> 01:27:47,253
Speaker 2: investment in and unfortunately it didn't quite work out. But

1775
01:27:47,412 --> 01:27:50,093
Speaker 2: interesting point, Gerard, thank you very much for your call

1776
01:27:50,412 --> 01:27:52,013
Speaker 2: and taking your thoughts on that. So one hundred and

1777
01:27:52,053 --> 01:27:54,253
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty is that number to call? It is

1778
01:27:54,452 --> 01:27:59,252
Speaker 2: thirteen or nineteen past three. You've talk said very good afternoons.

1779
01:27:59,253 --> 01:28:01,492
Speaker 2: You we are talking Air New Zealand and if you've

1780
01:28:01,532 --> 01:28:03,173
Speaker 2: fallen out of love with the airline, what can they

1781
01:28:03,213 --> 01:28:04,452
Speaker 2: do to rebuild your trust?

1782
01:28:04,893 --> 01:28:06,732
Speaker 4: We flew to the UK and back last year we

1783
01:28:06,812 --> 01:28:10,812
Speaker 4: priced around Emirates for twenty five thousand. Cathay Pacific was

1784
01:28:10,853 --> 01:28:14,013
Speaker 4: seventeen thousand. In New Zealand was forty eight thousand. Go

1785
01:28:14,133 --> 01:28:14,932
Speaker 4: figures is Bevan?

1786
01:28:15,133 --> 01:28:15,372
Speaker 7: Wow?

1787
01:28:15,492 --> 01:28:16,372
Speaker 4: Who is that?

1788
01:28:17,652 --> 01:28:17,852
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1789
01:28:17,973 --> 01:28:18,532
Speaker 4: What really?

1790
01:28:19,293 --> 01:28:19,652
Speaker 7: That is?

1791
01:28:19,893 --> 01:28:21,532
Speaker 2: I'd have to check those numbers the heck of a

1792
01:28:21,572 --> 01:28:23,012
Speaker 2: price if that is true.

1793
01:28:23,133 --> 01:28:25,732
Speaker 4: Yeah, then that is a bit of a problem because

1794
01:28:26,492 --> 01:28:29,093
Speaker 4: like I don't know, I can only believe Bevan's texting

1795
01:28:29,173 --> 01:28:31,812
Speaker 4: it in. But my loyalty to in New Zealand and

1796
01:28:31,933 --> 01:28:33,732
Speaker 4: whilst I'm feeling a little bit out of love after

1797
01:28:33,812 --> 01:28:35,932
Speaker 4: being water boarded by the Takahe video for one too

1798
01:28:36,053 --> 01:28:39,692
Speaker 4: many times, you are, I don't think my loyalty would

1799
01:28:40,492 --> 01:28:42,612
Speaker 4: be the difference between twenty five thousand and eight.

1800
01:28:43,013 --> 01:28:44,452
Speaker 2: It's a lot of moola, that's for sure.

1801
01:28:44,772 --> 01:28:45,092
Speaker 17: Barry.

1802
01:28:45,293 --> 01:28:47,812
Speaker 2: How are you this afternoon? Keen on your thoughts on this.

1803
01:28:50,053 --> 01:28:53,572
Speaker 21: Just from a different point of view. I've been in

1804
01:28:53,652 --> 01:28:56,253
Speaker 21: the air freight business that last thirty years at a

1805
01:28:56,333 --> 01:29:00,092
Speaker 21: christ hitch and in that time, when I first started

1806
01:29:00,133 --> 01:29:03,532
Speaker 21: in New Zealand used to fly wide bodied aircraft frequently

1807
01:29:03,572 --> 01:29:06,372
Speaker 21: at a Choss hitch to various destinations around the world

1808
01:29:07,013 --> 01:29:10,092
Speaker 21: full of freight and reason they change their business model

1809
01:29:10,893 --> 01:29:14,012
Speaker 21: and since then we have put no business there away

1810
01:29:14,053 --> 01:29:16,932
Speaker 21: for the last twenty five years of estimate, and that's

1811
01:29:17,053 --> 01:29:23,053
Speaker 21: for most freightfullers and South Cross Stitch m which is

1812
01:29:23,133 --> 01:29:28,133
Speaker 21: so pretty I think on a New Zealand's part, yeah, I.

1813
01:29:28,133 --> 01:29:30,053
Speaker 2: Think you're right, so so clearly that's something they can

1814
01:29:30,093 --> 01:29:31,973
Speaker 2: do better on. But in general, I mean, do you

1815
01:29:32,173 --> 01:29:35,012
Speaker 2: have is there any level of sympathy for what they've

1816
01:29:35,053 --> 01:29:37,492
Speaker 2: had to deal with that is of no fault of.

1817
01:29:37,492 --> 01:29:40,652
Speaker 21: Their own, No, all, I think they've just got the

1818
01:29:40,692 --> 01:29:43,612
Speaker 21: whole their whole model wrong. And how many times does

1819
01:29:43,933 --> 01:29:47,612
Speaker 21: the text path to bundle them out of trouble. I mean,

1820
01:29:47,652 --> 01:29:51,612
Speaker 21: there's the amount of freight that they could take and

1821
01:29:51,732 --> 01:29:57,612
Speaker 21: make the airlines more profitable. It's just astounding. And like

1822
01:29:57,812 --> 01:30:00,892
Speaker 21: China Southern has just stopped flying for the season. Well,

1823
01:30:00,933 --> 01:30:03,333
Speaker 21: I've seen what volume they put on their flights daily

1824
01:30:03,452 --> 01:30:08,093
Speaker 21: in and out of Kaishitch from Grenza and you know,

1825
01:30:08,452 --> 01:30:13,852
Speaker 21: to train the Emirates, GTA, Pacific Quantus and then you've

1826
01:30:13,853 --> 01:30:16,652
Speaker 21: got in New Zealand who just don't bother with the

1827
01:30:16,772 --> 01:30:20,132
Speaker 21: freight and to get the balance that makes those planes

1828
01:30:20,173 --> 01:30:22,293
Speaker 21: profitable I was told of the young when I was

1829
01:30:22,293 --> 01:30:26,213
Speaker 21: a young guy. I'm a very knowledgeable person. You said

1830
01:30:26,253 --> 01:30:28,492
Speaker 21: you need to mix up bums on seats and freight

1831
01:30:28,612 --> 01:30:31,492
Speaker 21: in the valley, and that's how you make profitable airline.

1832
01:30:31,532 --> 01:30:33,213
Speaker 21: And I think that's true to this day.

1833
01:30:35,772 --> 01:30:37,572
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I thank you very much for your thoughts.

1834
01:30:37,652 --> 01:30:37,892
Speaker 7: Berry.

1835
01:30:37,933 --> 01:30:39,612
Speaker 2: I don't know too much about the fraate. I know

1836
01:30:39,772 --> 01:30:41,692
Speaker 2: that is how they a lot of airlines make a

1837
01:30:41,772 --> 01:30:44,892
Speaker 2: lot of money, is the freight equation. But you've got

1838
01:30:44,973 --> 01:30:47,092
Speaker 2: to balance that out with a fear service.

1839
01:30:47,333 --> 01:30:50,293
Speaker 4: Have you ever been to Memphis. No, that's where FedEx

1840
01:30:50,372 --> 01:30:52,812
Speaker 4: flies in and out right, and obviously, and this is

1841
01:30:52,853 --> 01:30:55,812
Speaker 4: the difference between New Zealand and a lot of other markets. Right,

1842
01:30:56,612 --> 01:30:59,013
Speaker 4: So every FedEx passage pat package, I mean this was

1843
01:30:59,013 --> 01:31:03,253
Speaker 4: about seven years ago, flies into Memphis to get distributed, right. Yes,

1844
01:31:03,412 --> 01:31:05,972
Speaker 4: So when you go near that airport, there's a FedEx

1845
01:31:06,053 --> 01:31:10,053
Speaker 4: plane just landing, landing, landing. They're just in a line, NonStop.

1846
01:31:10,173 --> 01:31:12,973
Speaker 4: It's incredible to watch. There's not these are just all

1847
01:31:13,013 --> 01:31:17,732
Speaker 4: freight planes. Incredible operation, just massive and New Zealand has

1848
01:31:18,133 --> 01:31:19,772
Speaker 4: We've just got a small problem. This is the problem

1849
01:31:19,812 --> 01:31:21,532
Speaker 4: with a lot of our stuff it's the same with

1850
01:31:21,572 --> 01:31:23,372
Speaker 4: the supermarkets, the same with a whole lot of stuff.

1851
01:31:23,692 --> 01:31:27,532
Speaker 4: We're a small population, so there's there's limited passenger demand.

1852
01:31:27,572 --> 01:31:30,372
Speaker 4: We've got lots of small cities as well that are

1853
01:31:30,452 --> 01:31:32,973
Speaker 4: a long time, long way away. So a lot of

1854
01:31:33,013 --> 01:31:35,652
Speaker 4: people want to fly Auckland to Dunedin, you know, not

1855
01:31:35,732 --> 01:31:37,692
Speaker 4: a lot of people. Considering to say, how many people

1856
01:31:37,732 --> 01:31:41,852
Speaker 4: want to fly from Los Angeles to San Francisco or something,

1857
01:31:41,933 --> 01:31:44,692
Speaker 4: you know, or a Los Angeles to Chicago or whatever.

1858
01:31:45,333 --> 01:31:48,372
Speaker 4: There is so many people that want to fly those routes. Right,

1859
01:31:48,692 --> 01:31:52,173
Speaker 4: We've got small population and many small cities that are

1860
01:31:52,372 --> 01:31:56,852
Speaker 4: so so far away from each other. So and then

1861
01:31:57,013 --> 01:31:58,732
Speaker 4: you know, if you're in New Zealand and you've you've

1862
01:31:58,772 --> 01:32:03,812
Speaker 4: got all these really small towns, you know, like Topau, Timbaru,

1863
01:32:03,973 --> 01:32:07,093
Speaker 4: Kitty Kitty, you know, Hoka Tika, It's it's hard for

1864
01:32:07,253 --> 01:32:11,732
Speaker 4: us to you know, there isn't enough people for these

1865
01:32:11,893 --> 01:32:14,492
Speaker 4: these routes to be to be profitable. It's kind of

1866
01:32:14,612 --> 01:32:17,333
Speaker 4: the problem that we have with everything. I mean, Auckland

1867
01:32:17,412 --> 01:32:20,892
Speaker 4: and Dunedin we're all within the same country that's over

1868
01:32:20,933 --> 01:32:22,173
Speaker 4: a thousand kilometers away.

1869
01:32:22,492 --> 01:32:24,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah it is.

1870
01:32:24,093 --> 01:32:26,013
Speaker 4: And then's the problem that has got to deal with

1871
01:32:26,452 --> 01:32:32,133
Speaker 4: a domestic martic market. It's a long, thin, sparsely populated

1872
01:32:32,213 --> 01:32:34,772
Speaker 4: country with huge distances between its cities.

1873
01:32:34,893 --> 01:32:36,892
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's a big problem to overcome for Air

1874
01:32:36,973 --> 01:32:39,133
Speaker 2: New Zealand's But what do you say, Oh, eight hundred

1875
01:32:39,133 --> 01:32:40,812
Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty is that number to call? It's

1876
01:32:40,893 --> 01:32:42,292
Speaker 2: twenty six past.

1877
01:32:42,133 --> 01:32:47,412
Speaker 7: Three, Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams.

1878
01:32:47,532 --> 01:32:50,772
Speaker 1: Afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty on Youth

1879
01:32:50,853 --> 01:32:52,772
Speaker 1: Talk ZB, Very.

1880
01:32:52,692 --> 01:32:55,053
Speaker 2: Good afternoon to you. It is twenty nine past three.

1881
01:32:55,492 --> 01:32:58,173
Speaker 4: A lot of people are saying it's the money they

1882
01:32:58,213 --> 01:33:02,172
Speaker 4: spend on uniforms, it's the money they spend on their videos.

1883
01:33:02,333 --> 01:33:05,053
Speaker 4: That's the problem with their New Zealand. It's there's a

1884
01:33:05,133 --> 01:33:09,253
Speaker 4: bunch of other things that people bring up, but that's

1885
01:33:09,333 --> 01:33:14,293
Speaker 4: not the difference clearly, right, Yeah, the videos and the

1886
01:33:14,452 --> 01:33:18,492
Speaker 4: uniforms are not the difference. And whatever you think about

1887
01:33:18,532 --> 01:33:20,173
Speaker 4: the music they play on the plane, that's not the

1888
01:33:20,213 --> 01:33:22,732
Speaker 4: difference between making money. It may be the difference between

1889
01:33:22,973 --> 01:33:25,732
Speaker 4: brand loyalty and tough times though right.

1890
01:33:25,853 --> 01:33:26,333
Speaker 2: It might be the.

1891
01:33:26,333 --> 01:33:29,333
Speaker 4: Difference between how much you enjoy the experience on the

1892
01:33:29,452 --> 01:33:32,213
Speaker 4: plane such that you will fly with no one else

1893
01:33:32,213 --> 01:33:34,372
Speaker 4: because you just love being on ner New Zealand and

1894
01:33:34,452 --> 01:33:37,372
Speaker 4: a lot of people keep saying the same thing overseas.

1895
01:33:37,652 --> 01:33:39,372
Speaker 4: Get on in your New Zealand flight to come home,

1896
01:33:39,452 --> 01:33:42,293
Speaker 4: and they feel like they're home already. And I think

1897
01:33:42,412 --> 01:33:45,412
Speaker 4: that built up a fierce loyalty towards them in the past. Yes,

1898
01:33:45,612 --> 01:33:47,253
Speaker 4: but there seems to have been a lot of anger

1899
01:33:47,333 --> 01:33:50,213
Speaker 4: that's been brought up to them. Costs of domestic roots

1900
01:33:50,652 --> 01:33:53,412
Speaker 4: and such being one of them, and no, I keep

1901
01:33:53,452 --> 01:33:56,013
Speaker 4: going on it. It's not the reason why they're not

1902
01:33:56,133 --> 01:33:59,213
Speaker 4: costing them too much money. But we can't go sitting

1903
01:33:59,213 --> 01:34:01,893
Speaker 4: through those videos, the safety videos any longer because that

1904
01:34:02,013 --> 01:34:04,452
Speaker 4: makes the experience on the plane if you fly a

1905
01:34:04,572 --> 01:34:05,613
Speaker 4: lot untenable.

1906
01:34:05,893 --> 01:34:07,852
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is the cause of a lot of angame.

1907
01:34:08,333 --> 01:34:10,333
Speaker 2: As you mention that, I'm thinking the same and most

1908
01:34:10,372 --> 01:34:13,053
Speaker 2: other passengers who fly on a regular basis, it has

1909
01:34:13,133 --> 01:34:14,892
Speaker 2: been asked to take the earphone out, and of course

1910
01:34:14,933 --> 01:34:16,333
Speaker 2: you do it because you want to be polite to

1911
01:34:16,372 --> 01:34:18,053
Speaker 2: the great workers who work for Air New Zealand, so

1912
01:34:18,093 --> 01:34:20,372
Speaker 2: you can do it. And when they say it's a

1913
01:34:20,452 --> 01:34:23,133
Speaker 2: CIA regulation, okay, so you know it's not your problem.

1914
01:34:23,173 --> 01:34:25,173
Speaker 2: The CIA are being punishers and they want to make

1915
01:34:25,253 --> 01:34:27,452
Speaker 2: us watch the Tuckahey video for the hundredth time. But

1916
01:34:27,532 --> 01:34:29,452
Speaker 2: that is part of the problem that you start off

1917
01:34:29,612 --> 01:34:31,932
Speaker 2: on such a negative buzz that's like, oh, I'm gonna

1918
01:34:31,933 --> 01:34:35,492
Speaker 2: watch this fair again. That is one thing you could

1919
01:34:35,532 --> 01:34:38,133
Speaker 2: do to say, we know you hate this. We thought

1920
01:34:38,133 --> 01:34:39,932
Speaker 2: we were being clever. It's not working anymore.

1921
01:34:40,053 --> 01:34:43,253
Speaker 4: It sounds like such a weak thing to complain about.

1922
01:34:43,293 --> 01:34:44,852
Speaker 4: And people that don't fly a lot will be going,

1923
01:34:44,893 --> 01:34:46,812
Speaker 4: what are you talking about? Because of course you can

1924
01:34:47,013 --> 01:34:50,532
Speaker 4: sit through and just meditate, just think about something else,

1925
01:34:50,652 --> 01:34:53,492
Speaker 4: just stare at the screen, pretend you're watching. Yep, so

1926
01:34:53,692 --> 01:34:57,572
Speaker 4: their stewarts feel like you're watching, but think about something else,

1927
01:34:57,772 --> 01:35:00,492
Speaker 4: you know, think about the unif universe. But there is

1928
01:35:00,572 --> 01:35:03,772
Speaker 4: something about it that that is just because you're just like,

1929
01:35:04,213 --> 01:35:05,532
Speaker 4: you can get this information.

1930
01:35:05,253 --> 01:35:07,093
Speaker 2: Out so much quicker just starts on a bump.

1931
01:35:07,173 --> 01:35:10,652
Speaker 4: Note we love generally, but no more videos. But that's

1932
01:35:10,652 --> 01:35:13,213
Speaker 4: what when you sit in the front row. Actually that's

1933
01:35:13,213 --> 01:35:15,973
Speaker 4: worse when you sit in the very front row and

1934
01:35:16,973 --> 01:35:19,253
Speaker 4: so you don't have a screen and then the person

1935
01:35:19,532 --> 01:35:22,173
Speaker 4: the estuit has to do the whole routine like the

1936
01:35:22,213 --> 01:35:24,213
Speaker 4: old school. Yes, you know when they did that that

1937
01:35:24,293 --> 01:35:25,492
Speaker 4: was great when they used to do the other time.

1938
01:35:25,572 --> 01:35:27,893
Speaker 4: But because you're in the front row, you know one, A,

1939
01:35:28,093 --> 01:35:31,173
Speaker 4: B and C that that essuit's right in your face.

1940
01:35:31,173 --> 01:35:33,012
Speaker 4: They're about a foot away from you. So the performance

1941
01:35:33,053 --> 01:35:33,932
Speaker 4: is quite awkward to watch.

1942
01:35:34,013 --> 01:35:36,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, very true. Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty

1943
01:35:36,652 --> 01:35:38,253
Speaker 2: is that number to call? What a air in New

1944
01:35:38,372 --> 01:35:40,893
Speaker 2: Zealand need to do if they've lost your loyalty to

1945
01:35:41,053 --> 01:35:43,692
Speaker 2: get it back? Headlines with Raylen coming.

1946
01:35:43,532 --> 01:35:45,612
Speaker 7: Up, you've talked said b.

1947
01:35:46,013 --> 01:35:50,692
Speaker 14: Headlines with your Ride, New Zealand's number one taxi at download.

1948
01:35:50,772 --> 01:35:51,652
Speaker 4: You'll ride today.

1949
01:35:52,372 --> 01:35:55,013
Speaker 14: One in eight working age New Zealanders we're on a

1950
01:35:55,093 --> 01:35:58,492
Speaker 14: benefit as of December the highest rate and more than

1951
01:35:58,532 --> 01:36:01,692
Speaker 14: a decade more than half were on job seeker benefits.

1952
01:36:02,732 --> 01:36:04,133
Speaker 4: The Auditor General's.

1953
01:36:03,732 --> 01:36:08,852
Speaker 14: Found former Labor MP Paul Eagles altered documents provide for

1954
01:36:09,013 --> 01:36:12,612
Speaker 14: a probe into spending when he was Chatham Island's Council's CE.

1955
01:36:13,372 --> 01:36:17,133
Speaker 14: Issues included the processing of credit card claims, renovations to

1956
01:36:17,253 --> 01:36:20,572
Speaker 14: his council owned home, and conflicts of interest in engaging

1957
01:36:20,692 --> 01:36:25,772
Speaker 14: consultants the Resources Minister seeking advice on such things as

1958
01:36:25,933 --> 01:36:30,053
Speaker 14: Carloss days as the war in Iran threatens global oil supplies.

1959
01:36:30,412 --> 01:36:33,732
Speaker 14: New Zealand has fifty days of fuel here or en route.

1960
01:36:34,732 --> 01:36:37,693
Speaker 14: A body has been found on Lindwood Avenue in Auckland's

1961
01:36:37,732 --> 01:36:41,213
Speaker 14: Mount Albert. Police say they aren't treating the death as suspicious.

1962
01:36:42,093 --> 01:36:44,772
Speaker 14: Fire crews have been battling an office blaze at Auckland

1963
01:36:44,853 --> 01:36:48,053
Speaker 14: University since about two thirty with four trucks in an

1964
01:36:48,133 --> 01:36:52,093
Speaker 14: aerial truck attending. More teams are on their way. What

1965
01:36:52,333 --> 01:36:55,932
Speaker 14: the crusaders bust up and media bands say about team

1966
01:36:56,013 --> 01:36:58,972
Speaker 14: and trouble See greg Or Paul's full column at Enzid

1967
01:36:59,013 --> 01:37:02,173
Speaker 14: Herald Premium. Now back to Matteath and Tyler Adams.

1968
01:37:05,173 --> 01:37:08,732
Speaker 2: Goshion about Ian New Zealand, the phone lines full and

1969
01:37:08,772 --> 01:37:12,692
Speaker 2: the tax are coming through thick and fast nineteen nineteen.

1970
01:37:12,692 --> 01:37:14,372
Speaker 4: Do you know how long it takes to drive from

1971
01:37:15,013 --> 01:37:17,133
Speaker 4: Hamilton to Torong at this summer day?

1972
01:37:17,173 --> 01:37:19,932
Speaker 2: We're getting nervous. We're getting very nervous because we've got

1973
01:37:19,973 --> 01:37:22,053
Speaker 2: to be there at five point thirty. It's now three

1974
01:37:22,253 --> 01:37:27,213
Speaker 2: thirty six and we're heading into peak out traffic. All right, Okay,

1975
01:37:27,412 --> 01:37:29,812
Speaker 2: well let's go to fell phel What are you reckoning

1976
01:37:29,812 --> 01:37:30,572
Speaker 2: about you in New Zealand?

1977
01:37:32,492 --> 01:37:35,772
Speaker 5: Tayler Matt Yeah, good.

1978
01:37:35,612 --> 01:37:39,772
Speaker 22: Mane good excellent, excellent. Still writing down three things a

1979
01:37:39,853 --> 01:37:41,892
Speaker 22: day to be grateful for here.

1980
01:37:41,893 --> 01:37:45,932
Speaker 2: Tyler, Yes, yeah, I am still keeping that up. Yeah,

1981
01:37:45,973 --> 01:37:46,652
Speaker 2: it's a good thing to do.

1982
01:37:47,652 --> 01:37:49,093
Speaker 22: Keep doing that, brother, keep doing that.

1983
01:37:49,893 --> 01:37:50,133
Speaker 7: Thank you.

1984
01:37:50,293 --> 01:37:52,093
Speaker 22: I used to work I used to work for you

1985
01:37:52,253 --> 01:37:54,452
Speaker 22: news Hell in new Dale, and I worked from for

1986
01:37:54,492 --> 01:37:57,372
Speaker 22: twenty years as a load of the Hearing Christs. And

1987
01:37:57,452 --> 01:38:00,492
Speaker 22: I was always quite proud of that and working for them,

1988
01:38:00,612 --> 01:38:03,412
Speaker 22: because I did feel like I was part of an

1989
01:38:03,492 --> 01:38:07,013
Speaker 22: organization that was quite loved, almost like a family, you know,

1990
01:38:07,093 --> 01:38:09,452
Speaker 22: and people would be like you work for in New Zealand,

1991
01:38:09,532 --> 01:38:10,972
Speaker 22: and you know it made you feel a bit sort

1992
01:38:11,013 --> 01:38:15,532
Speaker 22: of oh yes yet yeah. And so I think the

1993
01:38:15,652 --> 01:38:18,333
Speaker 22: general public, some of the people have lost a bit

1994
01:38:18,372 --> 01:38:21,572
Speaker 22: of love for them. But I don't think in general

1995
01:38:21,652 --> 01:38:24,692
Speaker 22: they would want to lose in New Zealand because and

1996
01:38:24,772 --> 01:38:27,253
Speaker 22: have that national carrier. Because you know, like you say,

1997
01:38:27,333 --> 01:38:29,412
Speaker 22: when you're traveling overseas or whatever, you get on that

1998
01:38:29,532 --> 01:38:31,452
Speaker 22: plane and it all like to say, being part of

1999
01:38:31,532 --> 01:38:34,293
Speaker 22: a family almost you feel like it is coming home

2000
01:38:34,372 --> 01:38:35,973
Speaker 22: when you're sitting in that plane. In the core U

2001
01:38:36,053 --> 01:38:37,893
Speaker 22: tael and Rob Fife said that I remember when he

2002
01:38:37,973 --> 01:38:40,173
Speaker 22: took over, and he was excellent as a CEO because

2003
01:38:40,173 --> 01:38:42,253
Speaker 22: I was working there when he was a CEO. But

2004
01:38:42,732 --> 01:38:46,893
Speaker 22: I think if they can things like over booking, that

2005
01:38:47,093 --> 01:38:49,692
Speaker 22: frustrates people when that happens, because you think, how.

2006
01:38:49,612 --> 01:38:50,333
Speaker 8: Can you over books?

2007
01:38:50,532 --> 01:38:52,333
Speaker 22: You give me, you know, put me on a plane

2008
01:38:52,812 --> 01:38:53,532
Speaker 22: plane in your town.

2009
01:38:53,532 --> 01:38:54,452
Speaker 7: I haven't got a seat anymore.

2010
01:38:54,772 --> 01:38:56,173
Speaker 10: That can frustrate today.

2011
01:38:56,933 --> 01:38:59,333
Speaker 22: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what that's why I mentioned today.

2012
01:38:59,452 --> 01:39:05,293
Speaker 22: And also if they could somehow put the regional prices down,

2013
01:39:05,572 --> 01:39:08,213
Speaker 22: if it was possible somehow, because that does frustrate people

2014
01:39:08,333 --> 01:39:10,333
Speaker 22: and they think, geez, cost me one thousand dollars to

2015
01:39:10,372 --> 01:39:12,492
Speaker 22: get to Nelson or something and I can go to

2016
01:39:12,572 --> 01:39:15,173
Speaker 22: Sydney for three hundred. So you can understand the frost truck.

2017
01:39:15,253 --> 01:39:16,253
Speaker 4: Oh we've lost your fill.

2018
01:39:16,572 --> 01:39:18,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, something came out there.

2019
01:39:18,572 --> 01:39:19,612
Speaker 4: We'll try and get you back on.

2020
01:39:19,812 --> 01:39:22,133
Speaker 2: You got shut down, so apologies for that.

2021
01:39:22,732 --> 01:39:24,932
Speaker 4: Obviously, stop the bloody cost of the return flight being

2022
01:39:24,933 --> 01:39:26,852
Speaker 4: four to five times as much as the departure, even

2023
01:39:26,893 --> 01:39:29,012
Speaker 4: if it ends up being the same price, it wouldn't

2024
01:39:29,013 --> 01:39:32,612
Speaker 4: feel like such a scam. Yeah, we had a caller

2025
01:39:32,652 --> 01:39:35,013
Speaker 4: before that was smart enough to book one way and

2026
01:39:35,093 --> 01:39:38,012
Speaker 4: then return. Although if you're booking from outside of the country,

2027
01:39:38,053 --> 01:39:40,932
Speaker 4: it can get pretty interesting with your return flight situation.

2028
01:39:41,532 --> 01:39:43,093
Speaker 4: But yeah, I'd never thought of it that. For some reason,

2029
01:39:43,093 --> 01:39:45,052
Speaker 4: I feel so dumb, but I always just book return

2030
01:39:45,133 --> 01:39:45,852
Speaker 4: on the same airline.

2031
01:39:45,893 --> 01:39:49,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like a gamble. Absolutely. Oh one hundred

2032
01:39:49,133 --> 01:39:51,692
Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty is that number to call, really

2033
01:39:51,812 --> 01:39:55,213
Speaker 2: keen on your thoughts. It is twenty two to four.

2034
01:39:57,532 --> 01:40:00,293
Speaker 1: A fresh take on took Back Matt Heath and Tyner

2035
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Speaker 1: Adams Afternoons with Skoda Please God codes every day at

2036
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Speaker 1: scoder dot co dot ensad have your say on eight

2037
01:40:07,812 --> 01:40:09,532
Speaker 1: hundred eight news.

2038
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Speaker 17: Talk z B.

2039
01:40:12,612 --> 01:40:14,213
Speaker 2: Welcome back into the show.

2040
01:40:14,853 --> 01:40:18,572
Speaker 4: Hey, I was reading a newspaper this morning online and

2041
01:40:19,293 --> 01:40:21,933
Speaker 4: I can't remember exactly what the line was, but it

2042
01:40:22,053 --> 01:40:25,812
Speaker 4: was basically, the Iran conflict will last much longer than

2043
01:40:25,853 --> 01:40:29,932
Speaker 4: America's claiming. And then it said says why Katto expert,

2044
01:40:30,772 --> 01:40:35,373
Speaker 4: and I laughed. I laughed at that and nothing against Whykatto.

2045
01:40:35,372 --> 01:40:38,053
Speaker 4: I'm Hamilton right now. I love Hamilton, A huge flan

2046
01:40:38,133 --> 01:40:40,852
Speaker 4: of the whole area. What a great district, good people,

2047
01:40:40,933 --> 01:40:43,772
Speaker 4: you know, backbone of our dairy industry around this area,

2048
01:40:43,772 --> 01:40:47,252
Speaker 4: and what a fantastic time, but such a confident statement

2049
01:40:47,532 --> 01:40:50,253
Speaker 4: from a guy opering operating out of Hamilton. It just

2050
01:40:50,853 --> 01:40:53,772
Speaker 4: made me laugh. And when you laugh at something, it

2051
01:40:53,893 --> 01:40:56,492
Speaker 4: tells you because you don't plan to laugh at something, right,

2052
01:40:56,532 --> 01:41:00,092
Speaker 4: it just happens, So there's often meaning and laughing.

2053
01:41:00,173 --> 01:41:01,172
Speaker 2: It's an honest response.

2054
01:41:01,612 --> 01:41:04,732
Speaker 4: And it just struck me the ridiculousness of us constantly

2055
01:41:04,812 --> 01:41:08,612
Speaker 4: hearing these experts staying things about the world that freak

2056
01:41:08,732 --> 01:41:12,333
Speaker 4: us out, when what do they know? Now We're all

2057
01:41:12,412 --> 01:41:15,093
Speaker 4: freaking out about the state of the world, and we

2058
01:41:15,213 --> 01:41:18,012
Speaker 4: go to the experts and they have dire prediction after

2059
01:41:18,293 --> 01:41:20,732
Speaker 4: dire prediction, and that freaks us out even more. Sometimes

2060
01:41:20,812 --> 01:41:23,772
Speaker 4: I lie awake worrying about their predictions. I've read this

2061
01:41:24,133 --> 01:41:26,572
Speaker 4: guy from Hamilton said this, So I'm lying in bed, going,

2062
01:41:26,652 --> 01:41:29,253
Speaker 4: oh no, this is terrible what's happening in the world.

2063
01:41:29,652 --> 01:41:31,692
Speaker 4: But one thing it might be handy to remember is

2064
01:41:31,732 --> 01:41:36,532
Speaker 4: that these experts are nearly always wrong, and it has

2065
01:41:36,612 --> 01:41:39,492
Speaker 4: been proven that they are nearly always wrong. They are

2066
01:41:40,013 --> 01:41:42,532
Speaker 4: way more wrong than they are right, because they may

2067
01:41:42,612 --> 01:41:44,852
Speaker 4: be experts on what has happened, but the things that

2068
01:41:44,933 --> 01:41:48,333
Speaker 4: are happening are always completely new and different, with a

2069
01:41:48,412 --> 01:41:51,973
Speaker 4: whole lot of variables, so until the information comes out

2070
01:41:52,093 --> 01:41:54,973
Speaker 4: years later, they don't really know the situation. And one

2071
01:41:55,013 --> 01:41:58,892
Speaker 4: of my favorite YouTubers, a YouTube channel is run by

2072
01:41:58,933 --> 01:42:02,293
Speaker 4: a science educator called Derek Muller, and the channel is

2073
01:42:02,372 --> 01:42:09,173
Speaker 4: called verta tizi ver tarzim vertaim Anyway. I've never actually

2074
01:42:09,173 --> 01:42:11,492
Speaker 4: said that out loud before, but I believe it's Latin

2075
01:42:11,532 --> 01:42:15,012
Speaker 4: for truth. Okay, I'll try that again. The attaisium, Yeah,

2076
01:42:15,053 --> 01:42:18,812
Speaker 4: something like that. The attasium doesn't matter. Look it up.

2077
01:42:20,772 --> 01:42:24,573
Speaker 4: And he had to had this to say about experts.

2078
01:42:25,772 --> 01:42:28,852
Speaker 16: Political scientist Philip Tetlock picked two hundred and eighty four

2079
01:42:28,893 --> 01:42:32,013
Speaker 16: people who make their living commenting or offering advice on

2080
01:42:32,093 --> 01:42:37,372
Speaker 16: political and economic trends. This included journalists, foreign policy specialists, economists,

2081
01:42:37,452 --> 01:42:40,973
Speaker 16: and intelligence analysts. Over two decades, he peppered them with

2082
01:42:41,053 --> 01:42:44,933
Speaker 16: questions like would George Bush be reelected? Would apartheide in

2083
01:42:44,973 --> 01:42:48,772
Speaker 16: South Africa and peacefully? Would Quebec secede from Canada?

2084
01:42:49,372 --> 01:42:51,333
Speaker 4: And would the dot com bubble burst?

2085
01:42:52,013 --> 01:42:54,852
Speaker 16: In each case, the pundits rated the probability of several

2086
01:42:54,973 --> 01:42:57,732
Speaker 16: possible outcomes, and by the end of the study, Tetlock

2087
01:42:57,772 --> 01:43:01,333
Speaker 16: had quantified eighty two three hundred and sixty one predictions.

2088
01:43:02,013 --> 01:43:03,253
Speaker 4: So how do they do?

2089
01:43:04,253 --> 01:43:08,293
Speaker 16: Pretty terribly. These experts, most of whom had postgraduate degree,

2090
01:43:08,933 --> 01:43:12,093
Speaker 16: performed worse than if they had just assigned equal probabilities

2091
01:43:12,173 --> 01:43:15,213
Speaker 16: to all the outcomes. In other words, people who spend

2092
01:43:15,253 --> 01:43:17,972
Speaker 16: their time and earn their living studying a particular topic

2093
01:43:18,253 --> 01:43:22,412
Speaker 16: produced poorer predictions than random chance. Even in the areas

2094
01:43:22,452 --> 01:43:26,013
Speaker 16: they knew. Best experts were not significantly better than non specialists.

2095
01:43:26,532 --> 01:43:28,732
Speaker 16: The problem is most of the events they have to

2096
01:43:28,772 --> 01:43:31,492
Speaker 16: predict are one offs. They haven't had the experience of

2097
01:43:31,572 --> 01:43:34,612
Speaker 16: going through these events or very similar ones many times before.

2098
01:43:35,213 --> 01:43:38,732
Speaker 16: Even presidential elections only happen infrequently, and each one in

2099
01:43:38,812 --> 01:43:42,253
Speaker 16: a slightly different environment. So we should be wary of

2100
01:43:42,572 --> 01:43:45,813
Speaker 16: experts who don't have repeated experience with feedback.

2101
01:43:47,893 --> 01:43:51,133
Speaker 2: Yacinated. I could see what he's saying that the variables,

2102
01:43:51,173 --> 01:43:54,932
Speaker 2: as you mentioned before, are so unique, so wildly different

2103
01:43:55,013 --> 01:43:57,492
Speaker 2: each time that trying to figure out if you're going

2104
01:43:57,572 --> 01:44:00,013
Speaker 2: to be right and get that feedback coming back to

2105
01:44:00,293 --> 01:44:03,133
Speaker 2: is that, OKAYL is wrong on this situation. I'm going

2106
01:44:03,213 --> 01:44:04,892
Speaker 2: to change my analysis.

2107
01:44:04,372 --> 01:44:06,892
Speaker 4: Because they don't get real time feedback. If you're getting

2108
01:44:06,893 --> 01:44:09,532
Speaker 4: better at tinis, you get real time feedback with your

2109
01:44:09,572 --> 01:44:12,093
Speaker 4: ten thousand hours of hitting the ball where it goes,

2110
01:44:12,452 --> 01:44:14,852
Speaker 4: whether you lose a point, there's so much feedback coming

2111
01:44:14,933 --> 01:44:17,653
Speaker 4: into it. But this kind of analysis and geopolitical analysis,

2112
01:44:18,173 --> 01:44:21,093
Speaker 4: you just say some stuff and when they analyze it,

2113
01:44:21,772 --> 01:44:25,492
Speaker 4: you might as well roll the dice, right. And I

2114
01:44:25,532 --> 01:44:29,333
Speaker 4: think that's important to remember that. And because these experts

2115
01:44:29,372 --> 01:44:32,452
Speaker 4: will never admit that, they'll never admit and go back

2116
01:44:32,532 --> 01:44:33,692
Speaker 4: and go, well, I was wrong about that, I was

2117
01:44:33,732 --> 01:44:35,612
Speaker 4: wrong about that. I was wrong about that, wrong about that.

2118
01:44:35,692 --> 01:44:37,253
Speaker 4: But when you do a study on how right they are,

2119
01:44:37,652 --> 01:44:39,412
Speaker 4: they're no better than you just sitting there making it

2120
01:44:39,492 --> 01:44:42,973
Speaker 4: up yourself. And I think we've got a problem with

2121
01:44:43,173 --> 01:44:45,452
Speaker 4: worrying these days, because we feed so much of this

2122
01:44:45,572 --> 01:44:50,532
Speaker 4: information that we sit around worrying. And I always think that,

2123
01:44:50,893 --> 01:44:53,012
Speaker 4: I always think when I'm worrying about something, because worrying

2124
01:44:53,093 --> 01:44:55,612
Speaker 4: isn't doing something. That's just spinning the mental wheels. You

2125
01:44:55,692 --> 01:44:58,053
Speaker 4: don't have any control over what happens over there, So

2126
01:44:58,133 --> 01:45:00,293
Speaker 4: you're not doing anything by worrying about it. When you

2127
01:45:00,372 --> 01:45:02,492
Speaker 4: hear these things, you're not really You can do something

2128
01:45:02,532 --> 01:45:04,093
Speaker 4: about how you get your kids to school, You can

2129
01:45:04,133 --> 01:45:06,052
Speaker 4: do something about how you perform at work.

2130
01:45:06,173 --> 01:45:06,492
Speaker 2: Correct.

2131
01:45:07,053 --> 01:45:08,972
Speaker 4: You can do something about how you try read other people,

2132
01:45:09,612 --> 01:45:12,053
Speaker 4: but you can't do anything about what's happening on the

2133
01:45:12,093 --> 01:45:13,652
Speaker 4: other side of the world. I remember when I used

2134
01:45:13,652 --> 01:45:15,213
Speaker 4: to worry about nuclear war when I was a kid

2135
01:45:15,333 --> 01:45:17,333
Speaker 4: a lot. I didn't do anything about it. That was

2136
01:45:17,372 --> 01:45:20,253
Speaker 4: wasted worry. I didn't become some kind I didn't go

2137
01:45:20,372 --> 01:45:22,732
Speaker 4: over and try and campaign to stop nuclear weapons.

2138
01:45:22,772 --> 01:45:23,732
Speaker 2: You didn't stop the nukes.

2139
01:45:24,372 --> 01:45:28,692
Speaker 4: So I think this is a really important saying to remember.

2140
01:45:28,732 --> 01:45:33,893
Speaker 4: It's by Leo Boscalia. And worry never robs tomorrow of

2141
01:45:33,933 --> 01:45:37,173
Speaker 4: its sorrow. It only SAPs today of its joy. Your

2142
01:45:37,213 --> 01:45:40,772
Speaker 4: worry won't make any difference to things, It just won't.

2143
01:45:41,293 --> 01:45:44,772
Speaker 4: And worrying about what these experts that we keep getting

2144
01:45:44,853 --> 01:45:48,133
Speaker 4: rolled out in front of us from various places around

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Speaker 4: New Zealand and around the world, they are less likely

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Speaker 4: to be right than if they were just throwing a

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Speaker 4: dart at a dart board with some words on it.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that's why they called pundence is they've

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Speaker 2: just taken a punt. They're taking a massive punts, hoping

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Speaker 2: with all these degrees that they've got and so called

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01:46:05,412 --> 01:46:08,253
Speaker 2: experience that as you say, is no better than chance.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think the thing is that they're very learned

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01:46:10,973 --> 01:46:13,572
Speaker 4: about previous things that have happened, but every new situation

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01:46:13,692 --> 01:46:16,652
Speaker 4: has got so many variables in it and it's so different,

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01:46:16,652 --> 01:46:19,013
Speaker 4: and they don't have all the information on this particular one.

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01:46:19,293 --> 01:46:21,932
Speaker 4: So you study previous things, you've got all the information

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01:46:21,933 --> 01:46:24,053
Speaker 4: because it hapened in the past. You study something that's

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01:46:24,053 --> 01:46:26,172
Speaker 4: happening now, you have a very small about it information

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01:46:26,333 --> 01:46:30,052
Speaker 4: and there's so many more variables going on than anyone

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01:46:30,133 --> 01:46:33,452
Speaker 4: could get their head around. So anyone predicting anything with

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01:46:33,532 --> 01:46:35,973
Speaker 4: any certainty you have to you have to look at

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01:46:35,973 --> 01:46:39,012
Speaker 4: them and go, well, I don't know, Yeah, I don't know, mate,

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01:46:39,213 --> 01:46:41,013
Speaker 4: it could be maybe, maybe not.

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Speaker 2: And don't worry about it. Are you freaking out about

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01:46:43,452 --> 01:46:45,133
Speaker 2: the pundits and what they're saying it's going to be

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Speaker 2: World War three? Don't worry about it? Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Love it.

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Speaker 2: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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01:46:50,812 --> 01:46:53,452
Speaker 2: Nine two nine to two is the text The Great

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Speaker 2: Eavy Company is always you're listening to Matt and Tyler

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01:46:56,772 --> 01:46:57,813
Speaker 2: back very shortly.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

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01:47:01,933 --> 01:47:05,732
Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt, Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used

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01:47:05,772 --> 01:47:08,452
Speaker 1: talks that'd be Matt Heathen.

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Speaker 2: See of teachs coming through about air New Zealand. As

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01:47:12,333 --> 01:47:14,372
Speaker 2: you can imagine this one. Get our guys ask in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand what it makes of the Auckland New York flight.

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01:47:17,812 --> 01:47:19,772
Speaker 2: It is well known in the industry that that flight

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01:47:19,893 --> 01:47:23,572
Speaker 2: loses one hundred thousands k each way. Yes, each way.

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01:47:23,692 --> 01:47:26,812
Speaker 2: That flight is a show pony. The distance is too far,

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01:47:27,213 --> 01:47:29,852
Speaker 2: so the fuel capacity restricts the loading.

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01:47:29,933 --> 01:47:32,093
Speaker 4: That's from Dave the Sixer says, Haw's in New Zealand

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01:47:32,173 --> 01:47:34,812
Speaker 4: thought about towing a trailer with freight. Innovative and no

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01:47:34,933 --> 01:47:37,253
Speaker 4: fuel to operate the trailer. I know, I'm a genius

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01:47:37,692 --> 01:47:39,692
Speaker 4: in New Zealand, does not. I mean, where's the number

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01:47:39,692 --> 01:47:41,812
Speaker 4: eight fencing wire? You you have the trailer behind there?

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01:47:43,173 --> 01:47:43,412
Speaker 2: Yep.

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01:47:43,652 --> 01:47:48,293
Speaker 4: Innovative in New Zealand's predatory pricing on smaller startups to

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01:47:48,333 --> 01:47:52,173
Speaker 4: stifle competition. Remember key we year Yeah, I mean we

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01:47:52,253 --> 01:47:55,013
Speaker 4: all know that happens, right, But that's sort of a

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01:47:55,093 --> 01:47:56,772
Speaker 4: function of how hard it is to make money in

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01:47:56,812 --> 01:48:00,293
Speaker 4: the domestic market. So they've in the past thought it's

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01:48:00,333 --> 01:48:03,173
Speaker 4: better just to drop out prices and run someone out

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01:48:03,293 --> 01:48:04,932
Speaker 4: so one airline can survive.

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01:48:05,133 --> 01:48:08,052
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, and this one. In New Zealand, share prices

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01:48:08,093 --> 01:48:10,772
Speaker 2: dropped from about two bucks and twenty eighteen to thirty

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01:48:10,812 --> 01:48:13,253
Speaker 2: eight cents, while the government as fifty one percent nineer

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01:48:13,253 --> 01:48:15,812
Speaker 2: has mostly just extended loans and stayed silent on any

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Speaker 2: serious management or restructuring plan. A hands on majority shareholder

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01:48:20,572 --> 01:48:23,173
Speaker 2: will be shaking up leadership and clearly outlining how value

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01:48:23,213 --> 01:48:26,812
Speaker 2: will be rebuilt. Instead, taxpayers and small investors are left

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01:48:26,893 --> 01:48:30,692
Speaker 2: carrying the losses while the owner avoids taking responsibility for

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01:48:30,812 --> 01:48:34,012
Speaker 2: fixing its own assets. I mean it is a doozy

2204
01:48:34,213 --> 01:48:36,612
Speaker 2: of a problem. Keep those taps coming through on nine

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01:48:36,732 --> 01:48:37,333
Speaker 2: two ninety two.

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01:48:37,532 --> 01:48:39,972
Speaker 4: And New Zealand needs to stop rebranding and changing uniforms

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01:48:40,013 --> 01:48:42,972
Speaker 4: every other year. Focus on cost and services. Not nice

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01:48:43,013 --> 01:48:45,173
Speaker 4: to have, all right. That brings us to the end

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Speaker 4: of an exciting show. They've done Love from the Hamilton Studio.

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01:48:48,372 --> 01:48:51,532
Speaker 4: What a good time. Thanks for your hospitality, nz me Hamilton.

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01:48:51,652 --> 01:48:56,412
Speaker 4: What a beautiful vintage studio you've got here, bright bright yellow. Now, Tyler,

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01:48:56,692 --> 01:48:59,053
Speaker 4: we've got to get into my car. Yes, we've got

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01:48:59,093 --> 01:49:05,612
Speaker 4: a to totonger in time to present the Totonger Business Awards.

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01:49:05,692 --> 01:49:07,532
Speaker 2: Yeap, it's a big night. There's a lot of pressure

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01:49:07,572 --> 01:49:09,532
Speaker 2: and we are so short on time.

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01:49:09,412 --> 01:49:12,052
Speaker 4: And we've just been told by people in the office

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01:49:12,093 --> 01:49:14,372
Speaker 4: that good luck, good luck. You're about to head off

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01:49:14,412 --> 01:49:19,133
Speaker 4: into peak, peak peak traffic. So very good after five

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01:49:19,213 --> 01:49:21,732
Speaker 4: here that we'll talk about talk with Social Development Minister

2220
01:49:22,053 --> 01:49:25,012
Speaker 4: Louise Upston about why benefit numbers are at a twelve

2221
01:49:25,093 --> 01:49:27,772
Speaker 4: year high despite a government commitment to slash the numbers

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01:49:28,173 --> 01:49:32,612
Speaker 4: of jobs seekers. But right now, Tyler, my very good friend,

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01:49:33,253 --> 01:49:35,812
Speaker 4: why am I playing this song by Lenny Kriment.

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01:49:36,532 --> 01:49:39,812
Speaker 2: I've heard this one before. What's the name of this

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01:49:39,853 --> 01:49:41,213
Speaker 2: is about? It's about airlines, isn't it?

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01:49:41,412 --> 01:49:41,572
Speaker 22: Yeah?

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01:49:41,732 --> 01:49:42,612
Speaker 4: I want to fly away.

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01:49:42,692 --> 01:49:43,772
Speaker 2: So what a great June.

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01:49:43,812 --> 01:49:46,692
Speaker 4: We've talked about in New Zealand for the last three hours,

2230
01:49:47,093 --> 01:49:50,572
Speaker 4: and I think we've landed on half of our callers

2231
01:49:50,612 --> 01:49:53,333
Speaker 4: and Texters are loyal to New Zealand and think people

2232
01:49:53,412 --> 01:49:56,692
Speaker 4: just stop winging. The other half are very angry about

2233
01:49:56,732 --> 01:49:59,892
Speaker 4: the bailouts and very angry about the domestic lights, lights

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01:50:00,293 --> 01:50:02,692
Speaker 4: and the cost of international flights and want the whole

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01:50:02,732 --> 01:50:03,692
Speaker 4: thing to be good around.

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01:50:03,492 --> 01:50:05,852
Speaker 2: It almost straight down the middle. That's what we love

2237
01:50:06,293 --> 01:50:07,253
Speaker 2: so what a great tune?

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01:50:07,652 --> 01:50:10,053
Speaker 4: Or I think you so much for listening. See him

2239
01:50:10,093 --> 01:50:13,333
Speaker 4: in see you again tomorrow ibo. Until then, give him

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01:50:13,333 --> 01:50:15,093
Speaker 4: a taste key you can tell you I love you.

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01:50:17,133 --> 01:50:24,292
Speaker 17: Yes, I want to get away.

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01:50:25,372 --> 01:50:37,333
Speaker 13: Oh fa, yes, let's go on and see the start house, move.

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01:50:37,213 --> 01:50:42,572
Speaker 17: Me away, even my gus waiting to esneys.

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01:50:46,853 --> 01:50:48,173
Speaker 4: Let's wade into the sun.

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01:50:48,572 --> 01:50:53,013
Speaker 17: Let's just put it flas, be a warm, Let's just

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01:50:53,093 --> 01:50:58,972
Speaker 17: go a little fun. Oh oh oh yeah, I want

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01:50:59,492 --> 01:51:00,293
Speaker 17: you way.

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01:51:01,372 --> 01:51:12,293
Speaker 23: Oh yes, oh wall, just play?

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01:51:13,372 --> 01:51:20,612
Speaker 17: Oh yeah, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 24: I gotta get away away, I gotta get away, get awake.

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01:51:43,333 --> 01:51:53,333
Speaker 17: Oh oh oh yeah. Just get a play? Oh yeah

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01:51:54,652 --> 01:51:56,693
Speaker 17: yeah yeah.

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01:51:57,053 --> 01:52:11,652
Speaker 23: Yeah, oh ball, just get a play? Oh yeah, get

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01:52:11,812 --> 01:52:12,253
Speaker 23: up play?

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01:52:13,013 --> 01:52:29,333
Speaker 17: Want to get away? Get up? Play? Want get up? Play? Yes,

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01:52:34,372 --> 01:52:38,132
Speaker 17: I want to get up? Where get.

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01:52:41,492 --> 01:52:41,932
Speaker 23: Get up?

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01:52:47,492 --> 01:52:47,932
Speaker 7: Get up?

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01:52:48,013 --> 01:52:48,293
Speaker 17: Play?

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01:52:52,692 --> 01:52:55,253
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