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Speaker 1: New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the mic Hosking

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Speaker 2: Togs Head be Molly welcome today. Nurses are out again,

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Speaker 2: our gang members or numbers are up again. A good

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Speaker 2: news on the netball and TV deal. David Seymour and

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Speaker 2: savings for next year's budget. He's onto it already. Mark

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Speaker 2: Steve Price, they've been in as well. Pasky, Welcome to

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Speaker 2: the middle of the week. Seven past six. One of

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Speaker 2: the more memorable days of my life was spent at

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Speaker 2: Michael Hill's house at Lake Hayes and Central Otaga. He

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Speaker 2: showed me his art. There was a lot of it

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Speaker 2: and it was eclectic. He had his own nine hole

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Speaker 2: golf course. It was all par threes. This was in

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Speaker 2: the days before the Hills, which in many respects was

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Speaker 2: what Michael was all about vision. He took his path

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Speaker 2: threes and then turned it into one of the best

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Speaker 2: golf courses in the country. And watching the New Zealand

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Speaker 2: open these days is worth it just for the views

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Speaker 2: of his course. While I was there. The charity event

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Speaker 2: he ran started at Millbrook, just across the way. Millbrook

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Speaker 2: was new then, and you wondered whether it was one

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Speaker 2: of those investments that would grow into the success it

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Speaker 2: has or turn out like Formosa or Gold Harbor. I'd

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Speaker 2: won the pro am that day. He presented me with

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Speaker 2: a ticket to Australia, a few thousand dollars and various

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Speaker 2: bits and pieces from his jewelry business that, ironically I

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Speaker 2: couldn't accept them, given I wasn't a professional and are

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Speaker 2: amateurs were banned from winning stuff. But I had beaten

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Speaker 2: on that day Sean Fitzpatrick, Andrew Mertins, Peter o'melly and

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Speaker 2: Greg Turner. So what did I need prizes for? Michael

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Speaker 2: never forgot that day, and he reminded me each time

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Speaker 2: we talked that I should give golf a go again

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Speaker 2: and come and play at his place any time I liked.

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Speaker 2: I first interviewed him in the eighties. He was Newish

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Speaker 2: then and the story of the Funger Ray shop, the

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Speaker 2: fire setting up his own business it became New Zealand

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Speaker 2: business folklore. I did one of those motivational events that

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Speaker 2: were a thing for a while with him. I was hosting.

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Speaker 2: He and other success stories told paying guests how they

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Speaker 2: did at what the tips were, how to never give up.

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Speaker 2: He was big into music classical. He was a philanthropist

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Speaker 2: in that particular area. His company a household name of course,

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Speaker 2: expanding into Australia and Canada and the States. The advertising

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Speaker 2: genius he reveled in the personality thing. He was a

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Speaker 2: health nut, lot of juicing, probably before his time in

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Speaker 2: that sense, and like most success stories, he had a

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Speaker 2: magnetism about and very likable, good stories and funny with it.

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Speaker 2: He was, in many respects the quintessential New Zealand success story,

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Speaker 2: hard working, self made deprecating a memorable, inspiring Kiwi Michael Hill.

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Speaker 2: He will be missed.

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Speaker 1: Who news of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: The odd move from Starmitt's status off.

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Speaker 3: I can confirm the UK will recognize the State of

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Speaker 3: Palestine by the United Nations General Assembly in September unless

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Speaker 3: the Israeli government takes substantive steps to end the appalling

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Speaker 3: situation in Gaza.

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Speaker 2: That was back Duvera, the Foreign Secretary Lammy who was

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Speaker 2: at the UN.

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Speaker 4: The Natin Yahoo governments rejection of a two state solution

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Speaker 4: is wrong. It's wrong morally and it's wrong strategic. It

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Speaker 4: harms the interests of the Israeli people.

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Speaker 2: They did give Booby a hits up.

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Speaker 5: So ok Starmers spoke on the phone too, Benjamin.

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Speaker 2: Netanyahu, no doubt giving him advance warning what he was

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Speaker 2: going to say the staffternoon and what the British Cabinet was.

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Speaker 1: Going to agree tonight.

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Speaker 4: He will have more phone calls with other words world Leader.

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Speaker 2: Also in Britain there's a script between the government and

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Speaker 2: Nigel Farage. They have bearzo this week new online safety laws.

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Speaker 6: Make no mistake about it.

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Speaker 7: If people like Jimmy Saville were alive today, he'll be

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Speaker 7: perpetrating his crimes online.

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Speaker 8: And Nigel Farage is saying that he's on their side.

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Speaker 2: Farage wants an apology for that, and he's not heavy.

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Speaker 6: It is completely below the belt.

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Speaker 2: Yes, there's to and fro in politics. This was appalling.

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Speaker 5: All I asked for was an apology and he simply

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Speaker 5: doubled down.

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Speaker 6: And it's a disgrace.

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Speaker 2: Then Epstein, which despite Donald's leading over and over again

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Speaker 2: to get over it. One of us, well, one of

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Speaker 2: Trumpy's main mean isn't.

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Speaker 9: We thought Trump was going to come in and there

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Speaker 9: a lot of things are going to be resolved.

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Speaker 2: Did a dream this?

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Speaker 10: I'm going to figure everything out.

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Speaker 9: And when you have this one hardcore line to stand

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Speaker 9: that everybody had been talking about forever, and then they're

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Speaker 9: trying to gaslight you on that.

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Speaker 2: That's Rogan finally. Well and as long as Rogan's on it,

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Speaker 2: he's got trouble. Finally will record time. We got to

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Speaker 2: four Beyonce him? Four Beyonce him? Doesn't he just sound

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Speaker 2: He's also known as the Mountain. Doesn't he sound like

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Speaker 2: the mountain? Anyways? In Game of Thrones, he's gone and

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Speaker 2: deep lifted five hundred and five kgs. Record was five

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Speaker 2: doesn't sound as big as four anyway. Fun fact, one

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Speaker 2: of the least frequently broken lifting records in sport. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: four claims you broke it back in twenty twenty. He

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Speaker 2: a private gym where his dad was on the weight.

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Speaker 2: So that's about me, you know. So this one gets

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Speaker 2: a lefishalt tip apparently as news the world and long

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Speaker 2: Jay's a back at it there. I'm not making much

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Speaker 2: headway on this business of having children. There are now

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Speaker 2: offering eight hundred bucks a year for each child you

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Speaker 2: have under the age of three. Now this is the

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Speaker 2: first nationwide subsidy. They reckon it'll help about twenty million families.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see how they it goes. Twelve past six.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Car

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Speaker 2: And Marty might nicely put with Michael Hill and Bob

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Speaker 2: Jones passing on this year the likes of Colin Giltrap

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Speaker 2: last year. It's almost the end of an era. That's

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Speaker 2: a good observation. Thank you for that. Fourteen past six

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Speaker 2: I'm jl My Weld Andrew Keller her good morning, very

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Speaker 2: good morning. More job talk, so this time from the

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Speaker 2: B and Z and I'm just it doesn't look that flash,

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Speaker 11: No, it doesn't.

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Speaker 5: This is coming hot on the heels of the monthly

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Speaker 5: employment indicators that we that we talked about yesterday. So

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Speaker 5: ben zaid seek They've released their month through the port

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Speaker 5: on job ads. So job ads speaks to demand for labor,

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Speaker 5: so more demand, more job ads. You want some people,

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Speaker 5: you throw ads out there. So this all adds to

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Speaker 5: the millieure of data informing us about the labor market,

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Speaker 5: and the trend in job as has declined. Now, as

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Speaker 5: I said yesterday, we've got a big dump of key

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Speaker 11: That's due on the sixth of August.

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Speaker 5: In that previous data set, we had the unemployment rate

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Speaker 5: of five point one percent. Now looking like a good

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Speaker 5: possibility that unemployment will lift a little higher. Now, looking

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Speaker 5: at the Benz' Seek Job add data, job as fell

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Speaker 5: one point two percent in June. That follows a one

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Speaker 5: percent fall in May. We broaden the lens out a

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Speaker 5: little bit, you know, you take out some of the

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Speaker 5: short term volatility.

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Speaker 11: Quarter on quarter it fell one point six percent.

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Speaker 5: Even wider lens the annual change of a fall of

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Speaker 5: two point eight percent.

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Speaker 11: Now, the authors do state here's the rub.

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Speaker 5: The authors do state that after a year of relative stability,

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Speaker 5: adds are again on a downwards trajectory. That's not really

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Speaker 5: what you want to see. And there's a really stark

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Speaker 5: number buried in this data.

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Speaker 11: Mike.

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Speaker 5: If you look at the twelve month total, say to

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Speaker 5: the end of June twenty twenty four, compare that to

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Speaker 5: the twelve month total at the end of June twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty five and job ads have fallen nineteen point nine percent.

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Speaker 5: That is a big number. So look, we're seeing forecasts

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Speaker 5: of five point three percent for that unemployment rate. Interesting, like,

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Speaker 5: in the background of all of these sort of data prints,

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Speaker 5: the question is of what should the RBNZ do. You've

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Speaker 5: got this inconvenient left in the un the inflation rates.

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Speaker 11: So it's drifting towards top end of the range.

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Speaker 5: But if you acknowledge that to delay in the implementation

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Speaker 5: of monetary policy, if you look through that sort of

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Speaker 5: lift and inflation at the moment, the labor market in isolation,

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Speaker 5: I think is giving us a picture of something.

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Speaker 11: That looks like it needs a little bit of interest

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Speaker 11: rate relief.

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Speaker 2: Yes, say all of us speaking at jobs. The thing's

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Speaker 2: a little tight there in America too.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, So we're in the middle of We're in

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Speaker 5: the middle of what I think is one of the

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Speaker 5: most fascinating periods that I've ever seen in terms of

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Speaker 5: the US economy. Micrours it's fundamental input to strength of

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Speaker 5: the global economy, and the administration is disrupting the status

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Speaker 11: Established norms like trade.

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Speaker 5: So particular attention now on how the US economy reacts

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Speaker 5: to There's a lot greater focus on data, and as

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Speaker 5: I said yes day, it's a big week.

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Speaker 11: So a couple of pieces of data overnight. Yes, there's

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Speaker 11: some jobs data. There's also the Conference Board Consumer confidence.

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Speaker 5: This was one of the indicators that in early twenty

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Speaker 11: It has stabilized.

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Speaker 5: Last night, it was expected that the Conference Board a

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Speaker 5: consumer conference will come out at ninety six, has printed

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Speaker 5: at ninety seven point two. Still still some lingering consumer caution,

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Speaker 5: but it hasn't weakened. The forward looking measure has climbed

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Speaker 5: to seventy four point four. That's the highest it's been

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Speaker 5: since February. But present conditions fell to a three month low. Now,

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Speaker 5: job openings a little worse than expected, seven point four

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Speaker 5: to four million job openings versus expected seven point five million.

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Speaker 5: But the takeaway from this, Mike, you've got a cooling

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Speaker 5: job market there, but it's a gradual trend, it's not plunging.

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Speaker 5: So also quickly we talked about a lot of US

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Speaker 5: earnings releases this week. Second quarter earnings this week is

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Speaker 5: the biggest week of the earning season. Just a couple

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Speaker 5: I want to highlight. Novo Nordisk may not be the

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Speaker 11: It's a massive pharmaceutical company. You might not have heard

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Speaker 11: Weight loss of drug.

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Speaker 5: It has cut as expected full year sales growth. They

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Speaker 5: thought they were going to grow at thirteen to twenty

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Speaker 5: one percent. They're growing at eight to fourteen. I talked

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Speaker 5: about Marcus being priced for perfection. If you don't delivery,

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Speaker 5: get punished. Share prices down twenty one percent overnight, so

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Speaker 5: it's been absolutely smacked.

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Speaker 11: Boeing share price down a little bit. They've slashed their

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Speaker 11: quarterly losses.

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Speaker 5: This time last year they lost over a billion dollars

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Speaker 11: They've cut that.

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Speaker 5: They're still losing money, but only one hundred and seventy

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Speaker 5: six million now United help.

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Speaker 11: Bit of a miss there.

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Speaker 5: So the actually not a great earnings earnings to day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're going to mix bag there, haven't you?

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Speaker 2: Your sort of circumstances. Yesterday is extraordinary White. I happened

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Speaker 2: Donald Shortley maytime back here. Interesting insight into how we're

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Speaker 2: handling our money. So we've got a record number of

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Speaker 2: Mortgages back with us.

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Speaker 17: Morning, Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: All the switching that's going on, is there a direct

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Speaker 17: That's only sort of you know, banks use different tools

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Speaker 17: When you're business, there's a bit of a pass pass

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Speaker 17: you know, interest rates would be lower if we didn't

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Speaker 2: Sure takes advantage of it if you're prepared to do it.

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Speaker 2: So what are we seeing in these numbers? So you've

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Speaker 2: Is that good? Or are we just shuffling money round

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Speaker 17: Well, no, I'm in the underlying profit property market back

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Speaker 17: But it's one of those things if you're not on

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Speaker 2: Out fair enough, and or investors in well, any and look.

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Speaker 17: Anyone with a mortgage that has a has a you know,

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Speaker 2: They're good numbers though. I know also the some activity

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Speaker 17: Well that's predominantly first home buyers. A bit in the

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Speaker 17: going to it. So it's picking up a little bit.

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Speaker 17: It's nothing like it was three or four years ago

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Speaker 17: Interest rates have come down thanks for willing to lend.

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Speaker 17: Property prices are stable, if not sort of falling. You know,

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Speaker 17: you can pick and choose the right property, you don't

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, David appreciated. David Cunningham out of Squirrel Mortgages

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Speaker 2: nineteen away from seven. On related matters, Massi University came

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Speaker 2: they're not, but they are. Anyway. The point is that

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Speaker 2: eight point seven percent three months to June, on top

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Speaker 2: seen an improvement in affordability, more than thirty percent improvement

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Speaker 2: Morning, Mike, switching mortgages. We speak eighty six hundred to change,

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Speaker 2: three thousand to stay. So that's an easy choice. It's

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Speaker 2: There is competition out there and there are deals to

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Speaker 2: be done, and David is right, you've got to work

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Speaker 2: for it. You've got to hunt for it. You got

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Speaker 2: to look for it. You're going to ask questions, put

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Speaker 2: a bit of pressure on, and the banks will in general,

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Speaker 2: not always, but in general accommodated.

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Speaker 18: You're sixteen two international correspondence with ends and eye insurance.

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Speaker 18: Peace of mind for New Zealand business now.

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Speaker 2: Stateside, Riginalald, morning to you, Good morning. Make we're random scenes.

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Speaker 2: The guy's there and watching this thing. He's an open

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Speaker 2: ground with a military rifle wandering into a building.

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Speaker 14: That's right, a rare sign for New York City. You know,

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Speaker 14: we all know that gun violence in this country is

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Speaker 14: not rare. Still, there are some differences with this latest

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Speaker 14: deadly attack, with what four innocent people shot dead, including

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Speaker 14: an NYPD police officer and an NFL football staff, are

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Speaker 14: seriously worded. So this is the worst shooting attack in

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Speaker 14: Manhattan in some twenty five years. They have strict gun laws.

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Speaker 14: Their shooter, Shane Tomorrow, drove all away from Las Vegas,

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Speaker 14: where he's been living, to Park Avenue high Rise, where

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Speaker 14: he opened fire with an assault weapon and killed himself.

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Speaker 14: Police found a note in his pocket, but asking that

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Speaker 14: his brain be studied. As for the victims, the first

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Speaker 14: man he murdered was a thirty six year old officer

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Speaker 14: working as an off duty security guard. That officer was

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Speaker 14: from Bangladesh, initially married here with a couple of children,

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Speaker 14: his wife pregnant with their third. The shooter then opened fire,

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Speaker 14: killing two others, and he went up to the thirty

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Speaker 14: third floor, where it seems he was trying to get

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Speaker 14: to the NFL's headquarters, the National Football League. New York's governor.

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Speaker 14: New York's Mayor, Eric Adams says.

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Speaker 19: He took the wrong elevator bank up to the NFL headquarters.

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Speaker 19: In stead, it took him to Routent Management and that

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Speaker 19: is where he carried out additional shooterings.

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Speaker 13: Well.

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Speaker 14: Others in the building fled in panic or they hid

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Speaker 14: as best they could.

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Speaker 5: We just heard noises and then we all just were

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Speaker 5: in a closet from the billions.

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Speaker 14: I give your running slaughter on Park Avenue, says one

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Speaker 14: headline as to what led to this. The shooter's three

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Speaker 14: page note asks that his brain be studied, and it

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Speaker 14: mentioned's ct chronic traumatic encephilopathy. The shooter player high school football,

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Speaker 14: which has been linked to impulsive and violent behavior, depression,

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Speaker 14: and suicidal thoughts.

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Speaker 2: For those who have CTA.

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Speaker 14: You know something that can only be diagnosed after death

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Speaker 14: when pathologists are abldoom cut into the brain. In recent years,

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Speaker 14: a growing number of former pro footballers have allowed such

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Speaker 14: brain studies following their deaths. One study found that ninety

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Speaker 14: nine percent of one hundred and eleven deceeised former NFL

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Speaker 14: players had ct A more recent study found CTE in

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Speaker 14: three hundred and forty five of three hundred and seventy six,

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Speaker 14: so ninety one point seven percent of those former NFL

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Speaker 14: players study. A survey found that one in three former

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Speaker 14: NFL players believe they have CTE. That survey was done

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Speaker 14: by Harvard. CTE also has been found in footballers who

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Speaker 14: were as young as seventeen. The shooters note accused of

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Speaker 14: the NFL of concealing the dangers of the game. In

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Speaker 14: twenty thirteen, the league and players agreed to where seven

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Speaker 14: hundred and sixty five million dollar US settlement, agreeing to

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Speaker 14: pay for victims medical exams and continuing research to study

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Speaker 14: this issue of head trauma. Part of the settlement allowed

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Speaker 14: the lead to admit no wrongdoing.

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Speaker 2: Right. So Trump still in Scotland. He talked tough yesterday.

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Speaker 2: So where are we at with Garza? What's he doing?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 14: He didn't, He didn't. A little more food. Aid is

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Speaker 14: starting to get into Gaza as the world is focusing

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Speaker 14: on this against the backdrop of those dire reports by

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Speaker 14: AID agencies about increasing starvation. There have been some air

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Speaker 14: drops and a few more AID trucks getting in. But

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Speaker 14: yeh England, they form a un rep says that's not enough.

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Speaker 14: Far from enough food.

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Speaker 1: He says, one air.

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Speaker 2: Drop that's twenty five tons, that's two trucks.

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Speaker 20: We need six.

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Speaker 2: Hundred trucks per day. I mean, would you feed the

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Speaker 2: Tel Aviv with what one air drop or two or three?

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Speaker 20: You would have to have hundreds of trucks going in.

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Speaker 13: Well.

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Speaker 14: Since April, some twenty thousand children report today says have

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Speaker 14: been treated for chronic malnutrition. Three thousand of these was

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Speaker 14: said to be experiencing severe conditions. This led President Trump,

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Speaker 14: who was wrapping up that Scotland visitors, you say to

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Speaker 14: offer more, USA are going.

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Speaker 21: To set up food centers, and we're going to do

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Speaker 21: it in conjunction with some very good people.

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Speaker 18: Well you know.

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Speaker 14: He said this after Britain's PM Kirs Starman. He said

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Speaker 14: there was revulsion over the increasing loss of life. So

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Speaker 14: his rhetoric was much tougher than Trump's. Israel's Nettanno, who

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Speaker 14: was claiming there is no Israeli policy to limit food

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Speaker 14: and they blame him mask totally for any food crisis.

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Speaker 14: But Trump split with netno Who on this.

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Speaker 21: That's real starvation stuff. I see it, and you can't

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Speaker 21: fake that.

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Speaker 14: Still, my lingering question is how long does a starving

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Speaker 14: kid continue to starve while new systems are being set up?

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Speaker 2: Thank you, mate, We'll see you Friday. Richard donld State's

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Speaker 2: side just before we leave that part of the world exports.

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Speaker 2: The Observatory of Economic Complexity, which is quite a cool name. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: they've worked out the China exports to the States twenty

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Speaker 2: seven is going to or will decline by half a

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Speaker 2: trillion dollars US traded. China's forecast to drop by one

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Speaker 2: hundred billion, and who's the beneficiary of all that extra

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Speaker 2: trade that China is going to need to do something

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Speaker 2: with Russia? Oh the irony. Meantime, Trump's had trouble in

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Speaker 2: his deminimus thing, the deminimus being the small stuff you

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Speaker 2: bring in via the net. You know, you buy it

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Speaker 2: in team and it's less than eight hundred bucks. You

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Speaker 2: get it in for nothing. Anyway, he wanted to end

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Speaker 2: all that. They've gone to court, and the courts ruled

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Speaker 2: against him, so that remained stuck legally for now. Ten

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Speaker 2: away from seven.

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Speaker 1: A make Hosking breakfast with a Vita Retirement Communities News togsad.

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Speaker 2: Be Pribson to me morning, Mike, read your bank and

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Speaker 2: your loose comments about hustling for a bit of deal

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Speaker 2: at a bank belies the effort in time that entails.

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Speaker 2: A far better solution is to use far less eft

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Speaker 2: and find a good breaker. Well, of course you can.

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Speaker 2: I would have thought that's obvious. My main point being

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Speaker 2: there are deals to be done at banks. There is

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Speaker 2: competition in the banking sector, and it goes against a

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Speaker 2: lot of what Nicola will is. The Finance Minister would

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Speaker 2: argue that the banks are all a massive, big stitch

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Speaker 2: up and world being screwed. Speaking of money, Kiwi Bank

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Speaker 2: the State of Savings Index good news. Young people are

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Speaker 2: showing real savings discipline, financial confidence is on the rise,

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Speaker 2: Larger businesses moving beyond survival mode. That's growing optimism. There

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Speaker 2: you go the risk of persistently high inflation gone just

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Speaker 2: under half saving outside of key We Saber. Half of

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Speaker 2: us are saving outside Key Saber, which is encouraging. There's

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Speaker 2: also a lot of people that's been in the news,

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Speaker 2: a lot of people dipping into key We savers. So

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Speaker 2: you've got this two step economy. There are lots of

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Speaker 2: people who are busy saving, busy getting on with life,

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Speaker 2: busy doing you know, relatively okay all things considered. And

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Speaker 2: then you've got a lot of people still struggling. They're

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Speaker 2: seeing improvement in the economy. It's been driven by yet

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Speaker 2: again the South Island agriculture tourism. Just over half the

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Speaker 2: businesses surveyed are financially stronger than a year ago. That's

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Speaker 2: good warning signs. There's a confidence gap though, between the

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Speaker 2: bigger organizations and the smaller ones. The bigger ones seem

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Speaker 2: to be doing better, feeling more resilient. The smaller ones

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Speaker 2: are still struggling. So there's a lot of work there

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Speaker 2: are still to be done. As far as the government's

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Speaker 2: concerned in money. David Seymore's onto it will I ask

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Speaker 2: him about Brooklyn Velden what an interest hill defender. I

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Speaker 2: know what he's going to say before I ask. But

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Speaker 2: Brookvanvelden yesterday on the farm Eggs looked completely bewildered. Yet again,

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Speaker 2: she looked bewildered on scaffolding when she announced a review

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Speaker 2: of scaffolding. And then she came out yesterday and we

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Speaker 2: featured on the program. We talked about all the jobs

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Speaker 2: on it turns out the jobs on the farm for

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Speaker 2: young people. The advice came to her from Envy. First

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Speaker 2: of all, first lesson, never trust a government department. Don't

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Speaker 2: go to a government department and go can you think

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Speaker 2: of some jobs that young people do on a farm?

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Speaker 2: I mean it sort of makes it look like she's

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Speaker 2: never been on a farm in her life. And you

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Speaker 2: could drive past a farm and I say, brook there's

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Speaker 2: a farm. See what it all looks like. And when

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Speaker 2: they asked about the X never been to a farm.

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Speaker 8: Did nobody has she just got resting bewildered face is it.

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Speaker 2: Could have them five minutes away from seven in all

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Speaker 2: the ouse.

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Speaker 1: It's the fizz with business favor take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next.

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Speaker 2: I'll stop at Michael more good news. This is from

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Speaker 2: the IMF. This is global growth. Start of the year.

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Speaker 2: They predicted three point three percent global growth both of

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Speaker 2: this year and next. Then April came Trump announced at

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Speaker 2: Tariffs Liberation Day forecast got revised two point eight this year,

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Speaker 2: three percent next year. Now they're saying three percent this

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Speaker 2: year and three point one percent next year, so they're

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Speaker 2: in the middle. They've gone back up a little bit,

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Speaker 2: almost as though they've havn't got a clue what's going on.

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Speaker 2: Still well down on a three point seven average globally

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Speaker 2: pre pandemic. Of courseman, we've forgotten about those days. Their

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Speaker 2: report also said there's been a big increase in front loading.

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Speaker 2: Knows no kidding. Business is importing a lot of stock

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Speaker 2: to get ahead of the new import taxes. So if

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Speaker 2: there has no ways raiss you noticed this yesterday. Finally

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Speaker 2: a media outlet in Australia picked it up. I raised

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Speaker 2: it on this program yesterday. No one ran with it yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Trump yesterday says for the rest of the world, we're

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Speaker 2: going minimum fifteen twenty percent. Why has no one raised

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Speaker 2: this with anybody? We're on ten and were Apparently we

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Speaker 2: can live with ten. Apparently that's okay. We just don't

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Speaker 2: want to be worse off than anyone else. We'll hold

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Speaker 2: on fifteen to twenty is worse off than other people

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Speaker 2: if it ends up at twenty. Indonesia's got nineteen, Philippines

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Speaker 2: has got nineteen, the UK's got fifteen. We're materially worse off.

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Speaker 2: Why is no one in the media raises that because

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Speaker 2: the atmospheric river. They're so fascinated with the atmospheric river

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Speaker 2: yesterday it didn't turn out to be any of the

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Speaker 2: atmospheric or a river. They forgot to ask about the

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Speaker 2: twenty percent. Aren't we alarmed about the possibility of two

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Speaker 2: billion dollar hit to the economy? Actually, I last David

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Speaker 2: seymore about that, the Associate Financial Minister instead of Brook

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Speaker 2: van Belding. I have more on that piece, so threw

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Speaker 2: in the bin. What else can I say? Good news

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Speaker 2: for price rises if you consume price rises moderating. They

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Speaker 2: think four point. This is globally. Remember four point two

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Speaker 2: percent this year, two point six percent next year. Nurses

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Speaker 2: are on strike yet again? You sick of strikes or

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Speaker 2: is it just me? We'll talk more about this after

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Speaker 2: the news, which is next.

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Speaker 1: Use opinion and everything in between. The Mike Hosking breakvent

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Speaker 1: with the land Rover Discovery never stop discovering news.

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Speaker 2: Tog head be on seven past seven, another day, another strike.

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Speaker 2: This time the nurses have gone thirty sixy out four

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Speaker 2: twenty four hours. Paul galters the Nurses organization Bosony's with us,

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Speaker 2: good morning.

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Speaker 20: Good morning mate.

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Speaker 2: Do you get sick of strikes?

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Speaker 20: Well, I'm saying this striking out of this issue. Really,

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Speaker 20: it's just gone on and on and let's just hope

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Speaker 20: we can finally get a sword of starfing. It's just

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Speaker 20: got to be dealt with.

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Speaker 2: So is this staffing or is it pay?

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Speaker 20: It's about staffing. The people are just absolutely fed up

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Speaker 20: at not being able to get enough staff on the

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Speaker 20: wards and this has just gone on for years and

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Speaker 20: I think it's just come.

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Speaker 12: To a head.

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Speaker 2: Explain it to people who don't follow this, But there

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Speaker 2: are graduates who are complaining that they don't have guaranteed jobs.

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Speaker 2: How can we have graduates that don't have guaranteed jobs

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Speaker 2: and you're telling me that we need more people.

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Speaker 20: Well, that's exactly the point that is. You've captured it.

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Speaker 20: It comes down to funding and resourcing. They don't have

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Speaker 20: the funding to employ those graduates and they don't have

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Speaker 20: the funding to put enough staff.

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Speaker 10: On the wards.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the nurses, this is the Prime Minister's line. Nurses

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Speaker 2: seniors one hundred and twenty five thousand, commensurate with New

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Speaker 2: South Wales, which is way wealthier than us. Nurse is

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Speaker 2: doing okay at that end of the market anywhay.

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Speaker 20: No, no, they're not. They wouldn't be going to Australia

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Speaker 20: if that was the case. The wages of course were

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Speaker 20: pumped up by the pay equity deal a couple of

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Speaker 20: years ago, but we've still got a major ressue and

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Speaker 20: basically the offer on the table was going to take

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Speaker 20: them backwards.

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Speaker 2: So how big a gap money wise have we got

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Speaker 2: between what you want and what they're offering.

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Speaker 20: Well, I don't think it's that big, but of course

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Speaker 20: you'd expect me to say that. We think it's a

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Speaker 20: matter of a few percent. We're arguing that at least

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Speaker 20: we should meet cost of living and at the moment

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Speaker 20: that doesn't go nearby?

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Speaker 2: Okay, do I mean, what's your advice to people who

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Speaker 2: have got no money, which we don't. We have no money.

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Speaker 2: Love to pay nurses a fortune, but we have no money.

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Speaker 2: What do you do?

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Speaker 20: Well, it comes back to what are the fundamentals that

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Speaker 20: need to be funded? And I think the health system

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Speaker 20: is an absolute fundamental in any society, particularly in New Zealand,

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Speaker 20: and it just hasn't received enough money to futtle. Were

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Speaker 20: a paired in front of a select committee last year

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Speaker 20: and they put a number on the table and they said,

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Speaker 20: this is how far fush, this is what we need,

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Speaker 20: and this is how far short we are to run

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Speaker 20: a good health system. And that GAP's never been made up.

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Speaker 2: No, I get that, But where do you get your

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Speaker 2: money from? We have no money, less than no money.

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Speaker 2: Where would you get it from?

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Speaker 20: Well, there is money where three hundred and sixty three

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Speaker 20: million I heard it's going to be saved and put

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Speaker 20: into the pockets of the tobacco industry.

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Speaker 2: No, that's an offset from money they haven't paid. You'd

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Speaker 2: need people to smoke to pay the excise tax for

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Speaker 2: the government. To get the money. Do you want people

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Speaker 2: to keep smoking to get you the money.

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Speaker 20: No, of course we don't because that just puts sets

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Speaker 20: of strain on the hospitals exactly.

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Speaker 2: So that's there is no three sixty three. So where

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Speaker 2: do you get the money from.

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Speaker 20: Well, the money has to be found and it goes to.

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Speaker 2: Priority where help me out where a lot.

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Speaker 20: Of the money has been spent on physical infrastructure, and

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Speaker 20: we're saying that some of that should be diverted into

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Speaker 20: the social infrastructure.

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Speaker 2: So like, don't build a need in hospital, give it

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Speaker 2: to the nurses.

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Speaker 20: No, we're talking about roads and things like that.

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Speaker 2: Don't build roads, give it to the nurses.

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Speaker 20: Well, the issue is you actulutely need nurses for a

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Speaker 20: safe health system, and we don't have a safe health system.

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Speaker 20: So it's pretty fundamentally these are matters of choices, political choices,

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Speaker 20: and governments of any color have to face this. And

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Speaker 20: we think a fundamental of any society like ours is

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Speaker 20: to have a safe and well funded health system.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate time, Paul Gotter, who's with the nurses. It's eleven

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Speaker 2: minutes past seven. Looks like the business of gangs is

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Speaker 2: going with correct, ten thousand members so two years ago

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Speaker 2: it was two hundred and seventy. As of today it's

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Speaker 2: ten thousand and nine. Paul Basham's the Police Assistant Commissioner

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Speaker 2: and as with us, Paul Morning, Good Morning, Mark Mitchell

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Speaker 2: claims the increase is slowing. Is he right?

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Speaker 10: Well, I think it comes at a time when we've

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Speaker 10: really never been better in the way that we're operating

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Speaker 10: out there against gain criminal behavior. Since the Gangseet came

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Speaker 10: into in November last year, we've laid nine thousand charges

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Speaker 10: against people that are validated on the gang list, and

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Speaker 10: two thousand of those charges have been for violence, was

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Speaker 10: executed nearly six hundred wants and taken over one hundred

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Speaker 10: firearms out of there scene. In our prosecution rate against

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Speaker 10: people that have validated on the gang list sits in

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Speaker 10: the mid nineties, So you know, we're out there all

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Speaker 10: the time having an impact on gain criminal behavior. Into

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Speaker 10: some extent, the gang list provides us with a sort

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Speaker 10: of point of intelligence about the operating environment and gives

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Speaker 10: us better accuracy, and ironically, the increase in the numbers

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Speaker 10: that we're seeing on the list kind of reflects that

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Speaker 10: we're out there more doing more policing against gang members,

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Speaker 10: and as a consequence of that, we're getting better intelligence

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Speaker 10: about them.

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Speaker 2: I'm very glad. I'm very glad you said that, because

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Speaker 2: I wondered why we're obsessing about the numbers. Aren't we

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Speaker 2: more interested in what they're actually doing. I mean, if

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Speaker 2: they're ten thousand and nine of them playing twister with

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Speaker 2: their mates, that's fine. If they're committing crime, that's a problem.

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Speaker 2: You're telling us you're on top of the crime.

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Speaker 10: Well, yeah, I'd respond in two ways to that. Our

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Speaker 10: staff wilsome and I don't think we've ever been better.

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Speaker 10: You know that there's been lots of reporting about the

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Speaker 10: work with undertaking against gans like the Common Seros. Last month,

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Speaker 10: we were operating against the Greasy Dogs and totong Are.

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Speaker 10: Two weeks ago we took out a chapter of the

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Speaker 10: Hell's Angels and Tongani and that's pretty significant and pleasing terms,

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Speaker 10: because they don't make that easy for us, and to

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Speaker 10: take out the Hell's Angels from a law enforcement point

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Speaker 10: of view is significant and reflects the fact that our

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Speaker 10: were doing awesome work. As I talk to you now,

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Speaker 10: we've got hundreds of staff in Auckland terminating against an

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Speaker 10: organized crime. There's more information the less about that later today,

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Speaker 10: and god knows how many millions of dollars that we've

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Speaker 10: restrained in terms of our set restraint and seizure over

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Speaker 10: the last year and five years. And we're operating in

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Speaker 10: a way that the government and the community would want

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Speaker 10: us to be in the way that we're tackling organized

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Speaker 10: crime and gain criminal behavior. And I think the second

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Speaker 10: part of way up to that would be, you know,

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Speaker 10: we have the ambition for our communities to be safe

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Speaker 10: and feel safe, and I think the GAIN legislation that

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Speaker 10: dropped last year has had a significant impact out there

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Speaker 10: in terms of community feelings of safety, and the feedback

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Speaker 10: that we're getting is very positive in that regard. So

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Speaker 10: it's met the mark, if you like, openly whelming and

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Speaker 10: met the mark in terms of the government's and tension

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Speaker 10: and the way that we're able to execute it, and

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Speaker 10: we're getting really good feedback in terms of feelings of

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Speaker 10: community safety as a consequence. But it's also you know,

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Speaker 10: with the resource that came with it, it has given

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Speaker 10: us the opportunity to be more interactive in the way

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Speaker 10: that we are police thinking criminal behavior. And back to

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Speaker 10: the interest in the gang list, I think that kind

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Speaker 10: of reflects the fact that we're out there more and

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Speaker 10: therefore we've got accurate.

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Speaker 2: And tell nicely said Paul. Appreciate your time very much,

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Speaker 2: Paul Basham, who's the police Assistant commissioner? You thinking what

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking. You've never heard a cop in your life

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Speaker 2: more eloquent. If he's good looking as well, he's the.

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Speaker 20: I certainly like the number of the times you use

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Speaker 20: the word awesome.

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Speaker 2: Exactly if he's good looking as well. Here's the New

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Speaker 2: Zealand Police Forces post a child Mike Mitchell be listening

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Speaker 2: to that. He will be in tears. Fourteen past seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: That'd be David Temore on of a oourt fifteen minutes meantime,

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Speaker 2: it's seventeen pasted. We finally got there with the netball

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Speaker 2: so TV and Z are going to wear thirty games

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Speaker 2: across twenty three weeks one year deal. They'll need some support.

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Speaker 2: Potential partners still being tapped up for a.

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Speaker 11: Bit of dough.

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Speaker 2: Jenny Wiley's the boss of Netball New Zealand And, is

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Speaker 2: with us. Good morning, good morning. Is this a fix

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Speaker 2: or a plaster?

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Speaker 22: Well, I think what we're what we're doing with our

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Speaker 22: move to TVNZ is bringing netbel home and so actually

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Speaker 22: it's a return to what we've always known where kiwis

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Speaker 22: can access it on a really broader platform and it's

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Speaker 22: available across the country.

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Speaker 2: There is no doubt that free too. Where does work

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Speaker 2: in the numbers terms? Is there any money there.

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Speaker 11: All?

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Speaker 22: We won't discuss commercial deals, but there is a change

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Speaker 22: in economics and Netball New Zealand is investing in this,

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Speaker 22: but we actually feel it's right in the direction we're heading.

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Speaker 22: The vision that we have that kiwis can see our game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, bit of people. Everyone wants to know. Is everyone

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Speaker 2: going to get a pay rise? Is the concern that

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Speaker 2: we're seeing around the game? Is that addressed or do

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Speaker 2: you still have work to do?

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Speaker 22: We still have work to do. Netball New Zealant is

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Speaker 22: investing in this and it's it's a changing market. The

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Speaker 22: broadcast market is different traditional media and you know, right

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Speaker 22: spees have moved and there is more risk in the market.

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Speaker 22: But we're willing to step into that because we know

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Speaker 22: and we believe that the game has a future and yeah,

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Speaker 22: we're looking forward to how we can move into a

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Speaker 22: new and different revenue model.

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Speaker 2: Can you explain? And this is not a criticism. I'm

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Speaker 2: just genuinely interested in knowing what's happened to netball that

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Speaker 2: you've got yourself in the situation. It's still an exciting game,

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Speaker 2: you still get the crowds, We're still seemingly interested. But

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Speaker 2: something's not working.

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Speaker 12: What is it?

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Speaker 22: Well? I think I think it's really key to know.

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Speaker 22: You know, the participation in netball is growing. The Ferns

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Speaker 22: have beaten Australia more often than any other team on

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Speaker 22: the world stage, and I think it's just symptomatic of

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Speaker 22: a changing media market. The very big sports are going

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Speaker 22: to get bigger and there will be less for everyone else.

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Speaker 22: And you know, we're sitting here as a female. We

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Speaker 22: can't be cross subsidized by a men's broadcast deal. We

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Speaker 22: don't have a really rich India or fiafer in the

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Speaker 22: background for us. So our reality is while we can

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Speaker 22: keep getting told the message to cut our cloth, this

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Speaker 22: is about kiwee's. If they want to see women's sport

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Speaker 22: and the athleticism that these athletes bring, they're going to

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Speaker 22: need to contribute in a different way.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate your time, Jenny Wiley out of netball. There's a

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Speaker 2: bit of this, not surprisingly, Mike, that's what's so wrong

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Speaker 2: with this country. Pull sums up the whole latitude of

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Speaker 2: New Zealand being a welfare state. There's no cost of

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Speaker 2: living crisis anymore. That's crap. It's the dependency on the

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Speaker 2: state that's killing us.

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Speaker 2: basically this winter, head on over to chemist Warehouse. Great

894
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Speaker 2: savings every day. Seven eighty four. We are being urged

895
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Speaker 2: I note again to quote unquote break up with property.

896
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 2: We are urged this way once every few years. It's

897
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 2: a theme. It's based, not unreasonably really on the idea

898
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 2: that we could take money and make it work differently,

899
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 2: if not more productively, than it does in a house.

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Speaker 21: Now.

901
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 2: The latest iteration comes from a blow at Craig's Investment

902
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 2: who suggest if you put one hundred dollars into a

903
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Speaker 2: house in thirty years, it's worth about six hundred bucks.

904
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 2: But if you'd done it with shares they'd be worth

905
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 2: about eleven hundred dollars. Not just that, but the country

906
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 2: would be better off. Those dollars would have been out

907
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 2: and about. They would have been investing in staff, growing staff,

908
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Speaker 2: creating jobs, opening markets, making the world a better place.

909
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 2: They may well be true troublers. That's a long term view,

910
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 2: and most of us don't have long term views. The

911
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 2: view most of us have is what's happening to New

912
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 2: Zealand shares so far as here? Well, the answer is

913
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 2: they've gone backwards. Yes, today they're down one point four percent.

914
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Speaker 2: Mind you look at housing. It's hardly booming though, is it.

915
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 2: But if you want a glass half full, shares in

916
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Speaker 2: New Zealand in the last five years are up almost

917
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Speaker 2: ten percent. Houses most certainly are not up ten percent

918
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Speaker 2: in that same period. It may change with time. Now

919
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Speaker 2: this is the interesting part. It may change with time. See,

920
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Speaker 2: one of our children started buying shares while they're still

921
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 2: at university. They're of the generation that believes, also they're

922
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Speaker 2: never going to own a house, which isn't of course true.

923
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Speaker 2: They will, but they've also got a portfolio. But the

924
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Speaker 2: perception could be the key. If housing is perceived to

925
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Speaker 2: be unobtainable. What is obtainable, well, maybe shares, but credibility

926
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Speaker 2: is an issue also. I mean, shares can be blue chip,

927
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Speaker 2: can't they? Or they can be mean type stock if

928
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Speaker 2: you're following the Sydney Sweeney nonsense at the moment, you

929
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Speaker 2: can invest, or you can punt. Stock can be priced

930
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Speaker 2: to perfection, or it can be solid as a rock.

931
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Speaker 2: You can be an F and P healthcare when COVID arrived,

932
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Speaker 2: or you can be in their New Zealand when COVID arrived.

933
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Speaker 2: It requires a lot, whereas a house is a roof

934
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Speaker 2: and a shelter and a thing you can show you

935
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Speaker 2: mates and have a barbecue at. It's simple. Houses are

936
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Speaker 2: easy and they hardly ever lose money over time. To

937
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Speaker 2: get people to shift, especially when it comes to money,

938
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Speaker 2: the pitch has to be compelling. But in an uncertain,

939
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Speaker 2: crazy old world, which it is at the moment, is

940
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Speaker 2: a stock market really that compelling?

941
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Speaker 13: Asking?

942
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Speaker 2: Pretty disappointing, Mike with your grilling about where to find

943
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Speaker 2: the money. It's not his job to find the money. Well,

944
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Speaker 2: I'm pretty disappointed in your text. God's sake, Nay's job.

945
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Speaker 2: I read a very good piece and I'll come back

946
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Speaker 2: to it. Later they interviewed a guy who used to

947
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Speaker 2: be the head of the Danish public broadcasting system and

948
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Speaker 2: he quit and he started a group because he's worried

949
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Speaker 2: about the state of journalism in the world as well

950
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Speaker 2: he might be. And he said, part of the problem

951
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Speaker 2: with the journalism in the world is they're all negative,

952
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 2: and they all want to find problems, and they all

953
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Speaker 2: promote problems and misery and atmospheric rivers. And what they

954
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Speaker 2: want to do is provide some solutions. So it is

955
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Speaker 2: his job to come up with some solutions. And you'll

956
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Speaker 2: notice in the interview when I asked him a few

957
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Speaker 2: basic questions, like, you know, sure it's easy to ask

958
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Speaker 2: for more money. We can all ask for more money.

959
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 2: We don't have any money, statement of fact, we have

960
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 2: less than no money. Where would you like to get

961
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Speaker 2: the money from? And when push comes to shove, there

962
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Speaker 2: is no obvious answer. And that tobacco thing, which is

963
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Speaker 2: another to Mike, thank you for pointing out Chippy's lie

964
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Speaker 2: about the tobacco company earning three undred and fifty million

965
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Speaker 2: winter fact, it's an amount budgeted to offset the loss.

966
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Speaker 2: Chippy Leather doesn't understand it because he's economically illiterate. I'd

967
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Speaker 2: like to think that isn't true. If it isn't true

968
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Speaker 2: and he does understand it, he's playing you for a sucker.

969
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 2: He's treating you like an idiot because he keeps running

970
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Speaker 2: the line about handing money over to the tobacco companies

971
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Speaker 2: where no money has been handed over, and it requires

972
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Speaker 2: people to continue smoking to pay the tax. And if

973
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Speaker 2: you don't understand that, you should. And if we wanted

974
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Speaker 2: better political discourse in this country, he'd stopped playing stupid

975
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Speaker 2: games like that. David Seymour is but moments away on

976
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Speaker 2: the Mike Hosking Breakfast here at News Talk said.

977
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Speaker 1: New Zealand's home for trusted news and views, the Mic

978
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Speaker 1: Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate altogether better across residential, commercial,

979
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Speaker 1: and rural news talks head been.

980
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Speaker 2: Mike Starmer's virtue signaling around Israel providing a talking point.

981
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Speaker 2: Is it distracting from the new DRACONI in totalitarian dystopian

982
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 2: online security laws? No, I don't think so, but I

983
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Speaker 2: did mention at the start of the show it's an

984
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 2: odd tool under normal circumstances. Correct me if I'm wrong.

985
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 2: Macron was an example the other day you recognize the

986
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Speaker 2: Palestinian state, so called two state solution, because you want

987
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 2: to do it. It's a good thing, a right thing

988
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 2: to do. What Starmer seems to be now using it

989
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 2: as is a weapon as a negotiating tool. Unless you

990
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Speaker 2: do this, Israel, tell you what I'm gonna do. I'm

991
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Speaker 2: going to recognize Palestine. It's sort of like it's reverse logic.

992
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 2: It makes absolutely no sense. Meantime, on Air Force one

993
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 2: on his way back to Washington. You know, are you

994
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Speaker 2: rewarding a bass if you do that?

995
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 21: And I don't think they should be rewarded, So I'm

996
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 21: not in that cap. To be honest, We'll let you

997
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 21: know where we are, but I am not in that

998
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Speaker 21: kit because if you do that, you really are rewarding

999
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Speaker 21: a mass.

1000
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Speaker 2: Music politics wisdoy Mark Metell, Juny Anderson. After eight twenty

1001
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 2: two minutes away from weight Well, the hunts on for

1002
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Speaker 2: savings for next year's budget. Already, savings this time round

1003
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Speaker 2: amounted to four point eight billion. You might remember a

1004
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 2: lot of it came from the pay equity changes, of course,

1005
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Speaker 2: So what's left behind the couch, so to speak. David

1006
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Speaker 2: Seamore's the Associate of Finance minister, he's on this and

1007
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Speaker 2: he's with us. Good morning, Good morning. May now the public,

1008
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Speaker 2: how much of this is the future of your government

1009
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Speaker 2: given next year's election year. How much is it about

1010
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 2: cutting back, cutting back and cutting back versus growing something

1011
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 2: and actually bringing some more in.

1012
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 8: Well that there's a difference between the private sector and

1013
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 8: the government. The role of the government is to be

1014
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 8: small and be efficient, to deliver the things that people

1015
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 8: absolutely need in a really professional way, and leave a

1016
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Speaker 8: larger and larger slice of the pie for the private

1017
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Speaker 8: sector to reinvest and grow. So if you look at

1018
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 8: where we've come from, the government started out with almost

1019
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 8: thirty five percent of GDP being spent by the government.

1020
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Speaker 8: Our goal over a four year forecast to get that

1021
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 8: down to about thirty one. That may not sound like

1022
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 8: a big change, but it's just a matter of every year,

1023
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 8: every budget, looking behind the couch, finding things that are

1024
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Speaker 8: happening in government that actually we have started stopping them,

1025
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Speaker 8: and then putting that money into things that we actually need,

1026
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Speaker 8: such as healthcare.

1027
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Speaker 2: Okay, so last year's well, this year's trick was four

1028
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 2: point eight. A lot of it was the pay equity.

1029
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 2: Is there another big money pile there? Or is this

1030
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 2: we down to rats and mice.

1031
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,879
Speaker 8: Well, people will call it rats and mice, but there's

1032
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 8: an old saying, if you manage the pennies, the pounds

1033
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 8: will look after themselves. And my goal in the extent

1034
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Speaker 8: that I've been involved in budgets and I play a

1035
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 8: small partnicle that says, can you go and find some

1036
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 8: places to save money? And I say, yep, to settle up.

1037
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Speaker 8: And we find that sometimes there's a program that actually

1038
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 8: a lot of people didn't know about. It was spending

1039
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 8: a lot of money. We find that there's an agency

1040
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Speaker 8: that's growing exponentially over the last five or six years,

1041
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 8: and no one's quite sure what it was that they

1042
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Speaker 8: were doing. So you didn't call it rats and mice.

1043
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 8: I call it just a constant drive for efficiency. That's

1044
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 8: what everyone else has had to do and every farm,

1045
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 8: every firm, every family for the last five or six

1046
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Speaker 8: years of this inflation that is really ravaged the economy.

1047
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 8: The government is now playing its part after it blew

1048
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Speaker 8: out massively.

1049
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Speaker 2: I was, funnily enough, just during the news it suddenly

1050
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Speaker 2: occurred to me, you know, Andrew Costra and the Social

1051
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 2: Investment Agency occurred to me to ask the questions some people,

1052
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 2: what's he done now, what he's done so far as

1053
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Speaker 2: he's written some reports, what's the point of him? And

1054
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Speaker 2: is that a waste of money?

1055
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Speaker 8: Well, I just look at something like, say the prison population.

1056
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Speaker 8: It is right to lock people up if they're committing crimes,

1057
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Speaker 8: because the first thing I want the government to do

1058
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Speaker 8: is make it safe for me to walk to the

1059
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Speaker 8: supermarket and not see people walking a trolley out. But

1060
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 8: your strategy can't be to just keep on locking people

1061
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 8: up for decades into the future until the prison population

1062
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Speaker 8: starts to look American.

1063
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Speaker 6: So what do you do?

1064
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 8: You start asking, Well, you know, are there things we

1065
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 8: could do that are smarter, mainly with younger people. School

1066
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Speaker 8: attendance is something I'm involved and if you get a

1067
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 8: kid to go to school, are far less likely to

1068
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Speaker 8: end up in a prison later on. And that is

1069
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Speaker 8: the thrust of Nikola Willis's Social Investment Agency. It's a

1070
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Speaker 8: good insight in fairness to them, they've only been going

1071
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Speaker 8: for a year and dealing with problems that pan out

1072
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Speaker 8: over a citizen's lifetime. So look, I think people could say, oh,

1073
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Speaker 8: well just cut it, just don't do it. On the

1074
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Speaker 8: other hand, you know what is our strategy to make

1075
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Speaker 8: this welfare state web inherited work because right now, I

1076
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 8: think people around the world are disillusioned with government because

1077
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 8: politicians for eighty years have been saying, look, you give

1078
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,879
Speaker 8: us a third, maybe half of your money, we will

1079
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Speaker 8: make all the problems go away. Clearly that is not working,

1080
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 8: and people are casting around the world for politicians who

1081
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 8: make big promises but maybe don't have solutions either. So

1082
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Speaker 8: I think it's critical that we do this kind of

1083
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Speaker 8: long term thinking about, well, you know, if you can

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Speaker 8: do something that's going to get kids to stay in

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Speaker 8: school and make that more appealing, then maybe that means

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Speaker 8: you don't have to spend so much imprisoning them later on.

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Speaker 2: Right, fair enough is the Trump's comments yesterday, By the way,

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Speaker 2: on the tariffs, the rest of the world I e.

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Speaker 2: US is going to end up somewhere between fifteen and

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Speaker 2: twenty percent, possibly twenty percent. Are there alarm bells in

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Speaker 2: the bee hive? Did anyone in government talk about this yesterday?

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Speaker 2: Is there a plan to deal with this? And we

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00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 2: are now materially not better off or no worse off

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Speaker 2: than the rest of the world. Is anybody awaken cognizant.

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Speaker 8: To this, well, there's the old saying have the courage

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Speaker 8: to know that, or the wisdom to know the difference

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Speaker 8: between what you can change and what you can't. The

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Speaker 8: American government is elected the sovereign. They'll make their own

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Speaker 8: policies and we will deal with it. But if you

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Speaker 8: look at how we're dealing with it, we're opening up

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Speaker 8: all sorts of trade right across the world. We've got

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Speaker 8: Todd McClay working over in India. We've now got an

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Speaker 8: EU free trade agreement on board. If you look at

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Speaker 8: the last year, we've had an increase of a billion

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Speaker 8: dollars of trade going into the EU. There's also the UK.

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Speaker 8: We've also got Arab Emirates and the Gulf States, so

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Speaker 8: opening up new markets is a big part of the

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Speaker 8: solution there. There's also the simple facts that no matter

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Speaker 8: what the trading conditions are, the more innovative businesses you

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Speaker 8: have with more valuable stuff to sell, the more it's

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Speaker 8: a matter of people asking can they buy from us,

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Speaker 8: rather than us asking can we sell to them? And

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Speaker 8: when you travel up and down New Zealand visit some

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Speaker 8: of the businesses out there that are making new and

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Speaker 8: innovative stuff. That's our real future.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So your answer basically as there's nothing we can

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Speaker 2: do about It's just the Prime Minister said, we don't

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Speaker 2: want to be materially worse off than anyone else. At

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Speaker 2: twenty percent we will.

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Speaker 8: Be Well, he's absolutely right, we don't want to be

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Speaker 8: materially worse off than anyone else. But it's also true

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Speaker 8: that you know, we're the government of New Zealand. He's

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Speaker 8: our Prime minister. He's not in charge of US policy.

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Speaker 8: And so, yep, do we want to have a good deal.

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Speaker 11: Yep.

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Speaker 8: Do our diplomatic teams work hard to make sure that

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Speaker 8: the Americans understand where we are, but we're a good friend.

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Speaker 13: Yep.

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Speaker 8: We do all of that. But at the end of

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Speaker 8: the day, it's about opening up alternative markets and generating

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Speaker 8: a place where people can actually build successful businesses and

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Speaker 8: be welcome for it. An important time to just acknowledge,

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Speaker 8: Sir Michael hell I mean what an extraordinary guy starts

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Speaker 8: his business in sporties and actually manages to succeed in

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Speaker 8: Australia and Canada where so many New Zealand businesses have failed.

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Speaker 8: The more that we can be building businesses with that spirit,

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Speaker 8: the brighter our future as regardless of trade conditions.

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Speaker 2: And a lovely bloke will appreciate your time. David Seymore

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Speaker 2: the Associate Finance Minister, Deputy Prime Minister and one of

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Speaker 2: the announcements the government has made actually works. I'll give

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Speaker 2: you the numbers in a moment.

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Speaker 12: At b.

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Speaker 2: Actually thirteen away from its speaking to Michael Hill. Last

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Speaker 2: time he was on the show was when he was

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Speaker 2: handing over the company to his daughter. Your happy man,

1148
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:45,720
Speaker 2: still very happy.

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Speaker 23: I'm building a game boat at the moment.

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Speaker 12: It's quite funny.

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Speaker 23: Ready to go with my boat, BBS one. I must

1152
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Speaker 23: take you fishing sometime.

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Speaker 12: Yeah. We bought a mold on.

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Speaker 23: Trade me of a forty two foot a beautiful hold

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Speaker 23: boat and it's gonna have some big motives on it.

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Speaker 23: It'll about forty eight not or something crazy, but with

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00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,399
Speaker 23: a game to look like a Miami boat. And I'm

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Speaker 23: dying to do some fishing us in northern New Zealand

1159
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Speaker 23: this summer, late summer.

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Speaker 11: It'll be launched.

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Speaker 20: So there's always there's always something on the good.

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Speaker 2: He's a go get a Michael Hill wen't we liking

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Speaker 2: if you missed my story earlier, he was he was

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Speaker 2: inviting me to play golf all the time, and he's

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Speaker 2: inviting me on his boat all the time. Nitta Yahoo.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk more about him in the moment. Jim Boltz

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Speaker 2: a very good friend of his former Queenstown Miracles nitt Yah,

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Speaker 2: who's responded to Starmer this morning. This reward to mass

1169
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,919
Speaker 2: punishes its victims. A Jihada state on Israel's border today

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Speaker 2: will threaten Britain tomorrow. Appeasement towards Jeharda's terrorists always fails.

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Speaker 2: It will fail you to it will not happen now.

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Speaker 2: The thing that the government announced that worked was Paul

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Speaker 2: Goldsmith was on the program last week saying we're going

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Speaker 2: to clamp some cars if you owe money to the courts,

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00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 2: and sure enough, out over the weekend they did. We

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Speaker 2: have four hundred and fifty six million in fines, one

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Speaker 2: hundred and four million reparations outstanding, so well in excess

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Speaker 2: of half a billion dollars ode. So over the weekend,

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Speaker 2: forty eight hundred and fifty nine cars were scanned, two

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Speaker 2: hundred and eight outstanding fines. It's a lot of people

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Speaker 2: isn't it? Just out of the random selection of cars

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Speaker 2: you pulled over, two hundred and eight of them had

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Speaker 2: outstanding fines. A lot of people had plans. Thirty two

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Speaker 2: of them didn't plans to pay. Thirty two of them didn't.

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Speaker 2: Of the thirty two didn't that they pulled over, thirty

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Speaker 2: one paid in full. Just like, that's amazing. What happens

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Speaker 2: when you say, do you want to walk or would

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Speaker 2: you like to drive your car home?

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Speaker 19: Oh?

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Speaker 2: You can pay? Could they pay wayfare?

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Speaker 11: Was there a.

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Speaker 2: Tap and go?

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Speaker 6: Mate?

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Speaker 2: That's how it goes. It's tap and go. Did they

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Speaker 2: have to pay extra two and a half percent if

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Speaker 2: they did that? One didn't and had their vehicle seized

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Speaker 2: and towed. Eleven percent increase in fine payments paid online

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Speaker 2: on Monday. So there you go. It works.

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Speaker 1: Tend to wait the mat Hosking Breakfast with the land

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Speaker 1: Rover Discovery News toksad B.

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Speaker 2: You're seven away from eight. As we told you. Michael

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Speaker 2: Hill died yesterday eighty six. From that first store in

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00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 2: seventy nine to three hundred, today's changed retailing. Of course,

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Speaker 2: he reshaped advertising. He also made Central Otago a more

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Speaker 2: beautiful place, and Jim bold former Queenstown mayor, of course,

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Speaker 2: and a close friend is with us. Jim morning to you.

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Speaker 13: Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: I thought Rob five said it. Well, he's a force

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Speaker 2: of nature. That's fair, isn't it.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, that's very fair. He's a very unique person and

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00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 13: did enormously well in business. But he was a philanthropist

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00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 13: and a real vision who I mean, who else takes

1213
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 13: a piece of land and turns it into a world

1214
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Speaker 13: class golf course just.

1215
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Speaker 2: To do the timing for me when you arrived there

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Speaker 2: and your job and him reforming the place, because when

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Speaker 2: I originally met him, he was he had a little

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Speaker 2: Part three thing at his house before, but the hills

1219
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 2: ever came along, So how did that work? Time wise?

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Speaker 13: So look, he would have moved to Queenstown late eighties,

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Speaker 13: perhaps early nineties, certainly thirty five years or more ago.

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Speaker 13: I met him when he came to town and lived

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00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 13: not far from me. He and Christine built a nice

1224
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 13: but moderate house on the piece of land they built.

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Speaker 13: He then came up with the idea of creating a

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Speaker 13: I think it was a couple of holes for golf

1227
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Speaker 13: around his house, and that suddenly morphed into the hills,

1228
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Speaker 13: which of course hosted the New Zealand Open and as

1229
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 13: rated as one of the best golf courses around full style.

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Speaker 2: I think that's probably sort of sums them up, doesn't it,

1231
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Speaker 2: Because I mean, he didn't have to do that, and

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Speaker 2: then having done it, he could have done it to

1233
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 2: a much lesser extent, and that was sort of him,

1234
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 2: wasn't it. It was he began to do it and do

1235
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Speaker 2: it properly.

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Speaker 13: Oh, absolutely he was. You know. I think he's on

1237
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Speaker 13: record as saying, yeah, money is important, but he also

1238
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 13: liked doing things. He was one of those people who

1239
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 13: were never satisfied and they said, actually achieved something. You know.

1240
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Speaker 13: Take also the Michael Hill violin competition. Not too many

1241
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 13: people go and start something like that, which launched the

1242
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 13: careers of many talented musicians.

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Speaker 2: Do you reckon he represents an age? Somebody texted me

1244
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 2: earlier and I thought it was interesting. Bob Jones has

1245
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 2: passed on and now Michael Hill colin gill trap last year.

1246
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Speaker 2: Does he represent an age in a time? Do you think?

1247
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Speaker 13: Well? Maybe that's right, Mike. Maybe the great age of

1248
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 13: the entrepreneurs, the people who went out and did things

1249
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 13: before we all maybe got a bit restricted by some

1250
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 13: of the rules that we live with today. But it

1251
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 13: takes quite quite a mind to do the sorts of

1252
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 13: thing those people that you've mentioned do, and you know, look,

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00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 13: I hope more of them come along. But Michael was,

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Speaker 13: as I said before, truly unique, talented, violent.

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Speaker 2: Yes he was, Yeah, very much. So listen, I know

1256
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 2: you're on holiday, and I know you're in Asia, and

1257
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 2: I know it's at the very early hours of the morning,

1258
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 2: but I do appreciate you getting up early for us

1259
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 2: very much. Indeed, go well with it, nice and Jim

1260
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 2: former Queenstown. He also, of course, the Michael Hill success

1261
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 2: story was if He always explained that you set the

1262
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 2: stores up the same and you gravitate towards the center,

1263
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 2: and that's the way the countess are shaped and how

1264
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 2: they look, and so how you feel when you walk

1265
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 2: into the store. All that sort of thing was his thinking.

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00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 2: And that's before you get to the advertising, of course,

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00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 2: which she he was particularly famous for. Great bloke Michael Hill.

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Speaker 2: As an opposition police minister, Mike, why isn't the Ginny

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Speaker 2: Anderson questions in the house, he usually aimed at other ministers,

1270
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 2: Terry not an unfair question. She is a police spokesperson,

1271
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 2: but she's also job of an income spokesperson, and she's

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Speaker 2: also treating negotiations spokesperson, so she has other responsibilities. Yesterday

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00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 2: she was going at Bishop, which was interesting because the

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00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 2: week before she was going at Bishop and it didn't

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00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 2: go so well last week, But yesterday I thought it

1276
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 2: went a lot better. And my ego said, I wonder

1277
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Speaker 2: if my advice on the program had got through to

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00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 2: her and she changed her question line. I might put

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Speaker 2: that to her in a couple of moments when she

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Speaker 2: joins Mark for Politics Wednesday. Hereck needs to talk sever.

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Speaker 1: Setting the agenda and talking the big issues, the Mike HARKing,

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with al Vida, Retirement, Communities, Life Your Way, News, Togs,

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Speaker 1: Dead b He stuck.

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Speaker 5: On the Mountain, nor Buddy Around does the valley below

1285
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Speaker 5: you can't get down?

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Speaker 2: All right? We got the Wood Brothers, which is ermis

1287
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 2: nymer because they're not all brothers. There are three of them.

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Speaker 2: If there were two of them, I thought there were

1289
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Speaker 2: two of them, but they're not. There are three of

1290
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 2: them and one of them is not a brother. This

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01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 2: is trademark Carefree, Fun, Love and Attitude. On the ninth album,

1292
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Speaker 2: which is called of smoke. So you've got Oliver. Oliver

1293
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 2: plays the guitar and does most of the singing. Then

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01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 2: you got Chris who plays bass and occasionally harmonica. But

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Speaker 2: then you got Janno Janno Janno Rix. Now he plays

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Speaker 2: the drums and keyboard simultaneously. And now there's it's a

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Speaker 2: party trick. They got eleven tracks and then total comes

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Speaker 2: to forty one minutes and forty five seconds of the

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Speaker 2: Wood Brothers. It was a minutes past example politics Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: Mark Mitchell, Ginny Anderson. But this morning to both of you.

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Speaker 16: Good morning, Mike, morning Mike, Good morning Mark.

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Speaker 2: Now Paul Basha and Mark.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I did have a tear by.

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Speaker 2: I mean, for goodness sake, the guy that you know,

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Speaker 2: cops are famous for being basically in articulate, and this

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Speaker 2: guy comes on. I thought he was going to break

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Speaker 2: into a karaoke song or something. Where'd you get him from?

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Speaker 7: Well, he's he's the guy that headed up the gang

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Speaker 7: legislation to make sure that it was implemented properly, that the

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Speaker 7: police were aware of what they could and couldn't do,

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Speaker 7: and it was a smooth scene was sort of rollout.

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Speaker 7: So he's very aware of the outstanding work that our

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Speaker 7: police officers are doing in the gang space and hammering

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Speaker 7: the gangs, and so it was easy for him to

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Speaker 7: sort of obviously come on on your show and talk

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Speaker 7: about Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But it's one thing to think something, but it's another

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Speaker 2: thing to articulate it. And I've just never heard a

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Speaker 2: cop that's that eloquence. So congratulations on wherever you found

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Speaker 2: him or did you find him, Ginny, is he one

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Speaker 2: of your selections?

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Speaker 16: I think he was Mark from I think he was

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Speaker 16: district commander and down South is that right?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he was, he was down there.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I met him when he was down South. Yes,

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Speaker 16: So he was just a commander of Southland and did

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Speaker 16: really good work on the resilience to organize crime. So

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Speaker 16: I went down there when I was minister and they

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Speaker 16: gave us a good look around that project. And yeah,

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Speaker 16: he's a he's a good guy.

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Speaker 2: Good now, Jenny, very very tempted to sing the praises

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Speaker 2: the work that they were outstanding police officers doing, Mike,

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Speaker 2: but I know that I'll run run the time down

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Speaker 2: he did it for you, Jenny. You your question line

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Speaker 2: yesterday to Chris Bushop, did you feel better about that?

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Speaker 16: I took your advice hopefully. Did you think it worked

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Speaker 16: a bit better?

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Speaker 2: No, there's no there's no If you did, thank you,

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01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 2: But there's no question it worked better yesterday you worked

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Speaker 2: him harder. He was working hard and he was working

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Speaker 2: harder than he was the week before. That's fair, isn't it.

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Speaker 16: Yeah? I think so. I think it did go better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, who comes up with the Labor Party this question line?

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Speaker 2: Does the Prime Minister agree with Brian Smith who says

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Speaker 2: the country sucks? If not, why not? Who comes up

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Speaker 2: with that?

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01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 16: Or just are a range of people comes up with

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Speaker 16: different ways of putting things. And I think the trick

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Speaker 16: is as that's really hard to get a minister to

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Speaker 16: give a straight answer. So when you sort of get

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Speaker 16: frustrated with that, you just put them other people's used

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Speaker 16: ministers to see their reaction to you know, average keywis

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01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 16: are not happy with something, so you put that to them.

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Speaker 2: No, see what you did yesterday was short and it

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01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 2: was sharp and pinned them And so that I thought

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Speaker 2: worked well for you. Not that you know, Chris will

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Speaker 2: think you know my advice both of you.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so yeah, think you might think you have to

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Speaker 7: come back, you have to use you as my consultant

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Speaker 7: now as well.

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Speaker 2: But have you as a man of the world. Mark

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Speaker 2: running to Brook lately, who seems to have never been

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Speaker 2: to a farm in her life and AND's scared of eggs?

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Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 13: There?

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Speaker 7: Was someone that has always said that, you know, one

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Speaker 7: of the jobs that I enjoyed most was I went

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Speaker 7: farming where I left school as a shepherd, and I

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Speaker 7: just always found that our farmers, rural people are so practical.

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Speaker 7: They're still packed full of that Qwi cobbin sense a

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Speaker 7: numberak wi mentality.

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Speaker 2: Brook Brook looked. Brooklock looked awfully urban yesterday when she

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Speaker 2: was busy and having no idea about egg collecting and

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Speaker 2: stuff like that, is are you guy? Do you talk

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Speaker 2: about that in cabinet? Like I know you can't talk

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Speaker 2: about what covers in cabinet, But apart from that, is

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Speaker 2: that the sort of idea that comes up in cabinet?

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Speaker 2: And Brook goes, I tell you, what, have you seen

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Speaker 2: the egg situation? I'm going to do something.

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Speaker 6: No picking up, didn't can't keep it.

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Speaker 7: But look, I just want to say that, Look I'm

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Speaker 7: not that's her portfolio, that's who I just wanted to

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Speaker 7: say that she is doing some outstanding work, and she

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Speaker 7: is doing she's tackling difficult issues that the previous government

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Speaker 7: we're afraid of. So she's actually did some really good work.

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Speaker 2: To be fair, Jinny, you never tackled eggs, did you.

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Speaker 16: I didn't tackle an egg. I'd be worried. She's got

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Speaker 16: that lovely pink coat on. I'd be afraid that she's

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Speaker 16: worried in that predict.

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Speaker 2: I can't.

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Speaker 16: I don't. I can't visualize book on a farm, Okay?

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Speaker 18: Can?

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Speaker 2: I gave the numbers out Ginny earlier on about the

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Speaker 2: clamping over the weekend and the court find stuff. It works.

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Speaker 2: So when you see something like that at work. They

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Speaker 2: pulled up a bunch of people. Most of them paid

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Speaker 2: on the spot. One didn't. They got their front the

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Speaker 2: car clamped, and the rest have got payment plans. You

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Speaker 2: keep that, don't you. That's a good idea.

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Speaker 16: It seems like it's working well as long as it's

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Speaker 16: not taking away from frontline jods. That's my only concern.

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Speaker 16: If they can do it without costing police extra resource

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Speaker 16: to enforce, then and if it's getting fined back, then

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Speaker 16: it seems to be working well.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what a bit playwave surcharges.

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Speaker 6: Are you going to support that.

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Speaker 16: Well, it depends on benefits from that. It's a good

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Speaker 16: idea in general, but it's a bit of a concern.

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Speaker 16: A lot of small business is my way, are worried

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Speaker 16: that it will just end up costing them more and

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Speaker 16: then they'll pass it on to consumers. A good idea

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Speaker 16: in general.

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Speaker 2: Why didn't you claim down on the banks? Mark?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, the banks?

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Speaker 7: Well, this I mean, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 7: this is this is clemping down the banks in terms

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Speaker 7: of sitting well, Visa and master Card they both regulated.

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Speaker 7: That's where we're starting, and I think it's extremely positive.

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Speaker 7: It's going to provide complete transparency for consumers that the checkout.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, so I got to say labored to I

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Speaker 2: got to say you you would know this mark from

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Speaker 2: the Rodney district. Do you go to the country, Most

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Speaker 2: places don't have payway, never have Yes, you mean in

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Speaker 2: rural yeah, and rural areas they just you've got to

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Speaker 2: stick out on the machine.

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Speaker 7: Well it's some do, but yes, it's not urban definitely,

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Speaker 7: without a doubt.

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Speaker 6: You've you've far more likely to have access to playway.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, all right, Brie break more in a Moment, Jinny

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Speaker 2: and Mark, thirteen past the.

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Speaker 1: Mike Husking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News.

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Speaker 2: Talks B new Talks sixteen past Day Mark Mitchell, Ginny

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Speaker 2: Anderson Mark the voting changes, of which there appears to

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Speaker 2: be an element of angst about disenfranchising people and all

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Speaker 2: that sort of stuff. I'm not as interested in that

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Speaker 2: as I am in our inability to actually provide the service.

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Speaker 2: So in other words, why can't we turn up on

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Speaker 2: the day and register because they can't cope? Why can't

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Speaker 2: we cope? What's the matter with us?

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean that's that is an operational question for

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Speaker 7: the Electric Commission. But fundamentally, I think that the approach

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Speaker 7: that we've taken is quite simply that if you are

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Speaker 7: serious about voting, if you take your vote seriously, then

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Speaker 7: it's all It requires a little bit of effort to

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Speaker 7: get yourself organized and get yourself out there registered before

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Speaker 7: voting day, because on rit day it's if you have

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Speaker 7: a whole surge of people coming in. To think about it,

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Speaker 7: in any business, they're going to be overwhelmed. So unless

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Speaker 7: we have a huge cost and trying to meet that,

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Speaker 7: then it's then delays the results on the election, and

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Speaker 7: we've got Keiwi sitting around for a gunment to before.

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Speaker 2: I follow the logic, Genny. I mean, I know you're something,

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01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 2: you're making some noise about it and stuff, but I mean, honestly,

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Speaker 2: you've got three years. You know, you've got three years.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you can't get yourself organized, do you,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you probably don't deserve to vote, don't you mean?

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Speaker 2: How hard is it?

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Speaker 16: Well, it's not just the enrolling and voting on the days,

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Speaker 16: it's the whole period of early voting. So they sort

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Speaker 16: of went an extra step further. So if someone turns

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Speaker 16: eighteen in that period, if they've shifted house anywhere around

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Speaker 16: that time, it's largely going to mean they won't vote.

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Speaker 16: So you know, we reckon. It's about one hundred thousand

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Speaker 16: just on election day last time, but there'll be a

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Speaker 16: huge greater number over that two week period where for

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Speaker 16: age or for moving or range of other reasons they're

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Speaker 16: not on. They're not. So what I think happens is

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Speaker 16: that if you've moved house in the last few days

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Speaker 16: and you turn up and hus south to vote, but

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Speaker 16: you're actually registered out in Cuppody or mana you'll be

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Speaker 16: able to get your party vote. You can that, but

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Speaker 16: you won't be able to drink for local.

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Speaker 7: It's something as simple as called personal responsibility, and the

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01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 7: state cannot organized if all of your personal affairs. So

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Speaker 7: get organized. If you value the vote, and we should

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Speaker 7: value the vote because this country has has bled a

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Speaker 7: lot of blood to have that vote, then get yourself organized,

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Speaker 7: get yourself registered, make the system run smoother and faster,

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Speaker 7: allow the results to be delivered for kiwis earlier.

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Speaker 2: Would you find agree with that?

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Speaker 16: I agree with that. I agree with that, but that

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Speaker 16: when you're relying on New Zealand post and the postal

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Speaker 16: system to the other thing that which is absolutely you know, antiquated,

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Speaker 16: it doesn't work properly. There are real issues with people

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Speaker 16: getting their papers on time and getting them to the

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Speaker 16: right house. I mean, I think that there's a certain

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Speaker 16: obligation for the government to make it easy as possible

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Speaker 16: for people to participate in democracy and to be able,

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Speaker 16: but it does I'd like to punish please, but it

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Speaker 16: does seem like this government is making it harder for people.

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Speaker 2: To v But the reason we're a bit hopeing, and

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Speaker 2: that's sadly the truth and I think.

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Speaker 7: Gilly's statement there about it's the government's job to make life.

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Speaker 16: For everyone is enable people to vote.

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Speaker 7: No, that's that's what you said. And I think that

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Speaker 7: my view on this, it's my own personal view, is

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Speaker 7: that when you start turning over responsibility to the government

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Speaker 7: for everything in your life society, don't put word.

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Speaker 6: That and you're on a race to mediocrity.

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Speaker 7: So you know, I don't agree with that at all,

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Speaker 7: and I think that, well, that puzzles me why there's

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Speaker 7: such a debate around this. If you want to use

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Speaker 7: your right to vote, which is a powerful thing, everyone

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Speaker 7: should be engaged in that, do a little bit off it.

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Speaker 6: Organize your life. You're organized.

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Speaker 16: And when Judith Colin sounds you alarm, you know something wrong?

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, but now hold on Jenny to be fair,

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01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 2: and we had her on on this. She did it

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Speaker 2: because of the she was being a lawyer about it

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01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:56,720
Speaker 2: was because of the precedent that's been said. She was

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01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:59,759
Speaker 2: giving giving a legal opinion on the law as opposed

1512
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 2: to be in National Party MP. Would you flip it though?

1513
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:03,720
Speaker 2: Would you flip it?

1514
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 16: I'm not going to make decisions like that, but in

1515
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 16: the past we have always made it trying to facilitate

1516
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:15,800
Speaker 16: increased participation in democracy. We always support that and we've

1517
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 16: stood strong. So yes, we made the last time voting

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01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 16: not only in the early voting phase but also on

1519
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:24,719
Speaker 16: election day to make sure everyone who wants to can vote,

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01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:26,879
Speaker 16: not setting up obstacles to prove.

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01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 7: It, which to me is exactly what I'm talking about, Mike,

1522
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 7: because what keeps happening in the government, keeps making concession

1523
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 7: up to concession, what ends up happening. Ginny Ensen takes

1524
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 7: the ballot papers around the people's houses, goes and there's

1525
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 7: a couple of tea with them and get them to vote.

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01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 6: I mean, that's where you're going.

1527
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 7: Let's put a line on the sad and say, if

1528
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 7: you genuinely care about your country and you want to

1529
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 7: use your vote because governance is important, put a little

1530
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 7: bit of effort into it.

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01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 2: Get yourself self enrolled. Yeah, it's nice to see you both,

1532
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:54,919
Speaker 2: Mark Mitchell, Ginny Anderson. Back next Wednesday, eight twenty.

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Speaker 2: cargo without compromising on space or capability. Stadium seating. If

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Speaker 2: surrounding landscape. The design makes basically every journey super enjoyable

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Speaker 2: for everyone. It's got the legendary Landrover off road capability

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Speaker 2: as you would expect, so whether you're loading the kayak,

1549
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Speaker 2: the bike, the boots, the family dog, or all of that,

1550
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Speaker 2: it's built for real life. Starts from one forty eight

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Speaker 2: nine hundred. That's the Landrover Discovery D two fifty dynamic

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Speaker 2: sc the ultimate family adventure vehicle and with the Landrover Discovery,

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Speaker 2: the fabulous disco never stop discovering. Visit your local Landrover

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Speaker 2: dealer for your Disco today. I agree more with Mark

1555
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 2: reinrolling to vote, Mike, how much thought has someone put

1556
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 2: into their voter They can't be organized enough to register

1557
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 2: two weeks before the election, Mike, can you ask why

1558
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 2: we don't have ID to vote? So much fraud? I

1559
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 2: don't know if it's fraud necessarily, but it's a very

1560
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 2: old fashioned gerrymanded highlight a pen cardboard set up just

1561
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 2: so weird. Mike, would labor on the Greens be as

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01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 2: lenient with people being late to pay taxes as they

1563
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:27,679
Speaker 2: are with them and rolling to vote, well, yes they would.

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01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 2: Have you seen the COVID money that still owed and

1565
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:32,760
Speaker 2: they've only just started chasing down, Mike, if you are

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01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 2: registered to vote, surely, even if you move, it must

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01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:37,560
Speaker 2: be more simple to vote rather than turning up on

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01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 2: the day to register. I don't know. I register, you

1569
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 2: know sometime in the one thousandsh days you've got between elections,

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01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 2: and it's never been an issue in is it? Ex

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01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 2: futures by the way, yesterday, very bullish news on farming.

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01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 2: They're still pricing they think it about it's early, too

1573
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 2: early to nail it, but they still think it's a

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01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 2: ten dollar per cage.

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01:13:57,439 --> 01:13:57,679
Speaker 13: Milk.

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01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:02,759
Speaker 2: Solid season coming up, domestic production is going to boom

1577
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 2: in August, end of the season, September, peak in October,

1578
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 2: and then they're going to run through to January. As

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01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:11,639
Speaker 2: far as production and sales and all that sort of stuff.

1580
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 2: Fontira midpoint for the current twenty sixth season is it

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01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 2: ten currently Now, if that pans out, dairy's contribution to

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01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:25,800
Speaker 2: the economy would increase by about ten billion dollars over

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01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:29,760
Speaker 2: two years. Ten billion dollars over two years. Now, the

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01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:32,719
Speaker 2: debt side of it worries me because at that level,

1585
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 2: quote unquote, a lot of dairy farmers, if not all,

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01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 2: will be making a profit. So if you're earning ten

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01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 2: a kg and you're still not making a profit, what

1588
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 2: the hell's going on? Next week? Next dairy auction? And

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01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 2: so we'll look forward to that with a great deal

1590
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 2: of interest. Speaking of looking forward to stuff, Steve Price

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01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 2: out of Australia here is but moments away after the News,

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Speaker 2: which is next on the my Co Hosking Breakfast.

1593
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Speaker 1: The Breakfast Show Kiwi's Trust to Stay in the Know,

1594
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:07,439
Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with the land Rover Discovery Never

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01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 1: Stop Discovering News.

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01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 2: Togsa'd be Mike in the news. The government is allowing

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01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 2: power provider Lines Company to put up their prices to

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01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 2: recover their losses. Why do they not have to make

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01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 2: up their losses like a normal commercial entity. I think

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01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:21,920
Speaker 2: you might They may have written the story poorly, or

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01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 2: you may have interpreted the story wrong. Transpower has been

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01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 2: allowed and it was the Commis Commission that allowed them.

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01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 2: Transpower are, of course the Lion's Company. The Lions Company

1604
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 2: are a monopoly. They can't just go around saying we're

1605
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 2: putting our prices up because we feel like it. There arguments,

1606
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 2: and they went in front of the Commerce Commission and

1607
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 2: they said, look, we need to spend a lot of

1608
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 2: money on infrastructure and future proofing ourselves and renewables and

1609
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 2: all that stuff we've talked about a million times before.

1610
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 2: How much more can we charge to recoup what we're

1611
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 2: spending on the improving of our infrastructure around the country.

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01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:56,040
Speaker 2: The Commerce Commission gave them a number, and it's that

1613
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 2: number that they are then passing on to the rest

1614
01:15:58,360 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 2: of us to pay for new power lines, et cetera.

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01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 2: Twenty three minutes away.

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01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:05,439
Speaker 18: From nine International correspondence with ends and Eye Insurance, Peace

1617
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 18: of mind for New Zealand business.

1618
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 2: Tesn't steed flight. Very good morning to you and to

1619
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 2: you now this renewable energy construction collapse, now, what's going

1620
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:14,639
Speaker 2: on here?

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01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 12: Well, we all need, we are told by our government

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01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 12: to get to eighty two percent renewable target of renewable

1623
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 12: power very quickly. The first half of this year. Sadly,

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01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:32,880
Speaker 12: according to a poll conducted by Rice add Energy or

1625
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:35,680
Speaker 12: a study by Rice add Energy in this country, a

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01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 12: construction of new wind farms absolutely collapsed in the first

1627
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:42,679
Speaker 12: half of this year. Soaring costs is one of the reasons.

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01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:47,519
Speaker 12: Protests of course of around offshore wind turbines has certainly

1629
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 12: added to this with at least three big projects canceled,

1630
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 12: and look, the whole ambition is now at some high risk.

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01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 12: You've even got a long time advisor to Labor Goverment,

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01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:03,759
Speaker 12: Ross Garneault, who is a backer of renewable energy, saying

1633
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:07,719
Speaker 12: yesterday that the end of the decade goal that's twenty

1634
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 12: thirty eighty five percent renewable was quote unachievable even with

1635
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 12: an expanded investment scheme. So what Garnaut is pointing out

1636
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:19,919
Speaker 12: is the money simply not there. These big European companies

1637
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 12: who are all very keen to get in on the

1638
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:25,839
Speaker 12: ground floor and invest in Australia and invest in renewable

1639
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 12: energy here walking away at a million miles an hour.

1640
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:31,519
Speaker 12: They're afraid of the protest movements that have sprung up

1641
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 12: around the country and they are significant, including on shore

1642
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 12: when where farmers are not happy. And so the whole

1643
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 12: process is now in a major hole.

1644
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:43,840
Speaker 2: I was reading a report. I can't remember, I've got

1645
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 2: the letters right, Csiro.

1646
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 12: Is that right, ses sirah?

1647
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:51,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So they came out with the report and

1648
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 2: seed nuclears to expensive renewables are still the answer, but

1649
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 2: they're saying basically the same thing that it's short, were

1650
01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 2: hopelessly short, and it's not going to transition. Then they

1651
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:02,240
Speaker 2: started talking about offshore wind and I thought that no

1652
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 2: one seems to be getting to where they want to go.

1653
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 2: If you're going for net zero, that'll be fair.

1654
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 12: The absolutely fair. And you know he even had a

1655
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:14,080
Speaker 12: un expert by called Simon Steal out here yesterday making

1656
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 12: all sorts of wild predictions about what would happen if

1657
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:20,320
Speaker 12: we don't do more, and those predictions included things like

1658
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 12: well down the track and this is those people who

1659
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 12: talk about catastrophe really annoy average folk. He said, Look,

1660
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 12: the consumption of fruit and vegetable will be a once

1661
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 12: a year treat for Australians if you.

1662
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 20: Don't do more on global warming, I mean whatever.

1663
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 12: The bloke really should be run out of the country.

1664
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 2: Is there something dovetailing into that? I read yesterday? So

1665
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:47,880
Speaker 2: Hanson Pauline standing by, there's a schism in the coalition

1666
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 2: that Lay's got to deal with. There's a group of

1667
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 2: people there that aren't too keen on their net zero

1668
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 2: pledge and Hanson goes, well, I'll mop up that vote,

1669
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:57,760
Speaker 2: thanks very much. Has Lay got real problems there or not?

1670
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 12: Yes, she has because the climent wars do no favors

1671
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 12: at all for the Liberal Party and the National Party

1672
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 12: are the ones that have broken away Barnaby Joyce and

1673
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 12: for another former leader, Michael mckella. And so she's got

1674
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 12: to try and sort that out because if Lee walks

1675
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 12: away from net zero, which is what they've signed up to,

1676
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:23,599
Speaker 12: and they did it under Scott Morrison's Prime Minister, she's

1677
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:26,679
Speaker 12: got a real problem in her party. And clearly during

1678
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:31,719
Speaker 12: the election campaign people were voting knowing that the government,

1679
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 12: the alban is He government in favor of Newable Energies

1680
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 12: Harbor Bridge.

1681
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 2: I thought this had been sorted out. So there's a

1682
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 2: big march. It's on Sunday and they're going to Palestine

1683
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:42,720
Speaker 2: yet again, so they're going to cross the bridge. I

1684
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 2: thought they had been sorted and said no way.

1685
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 12: He said no way. They have a permit system in

1686
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 12: New South Wales which is issued by the police. So

1687
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:54,000
Speaker 12: it then went to the Police Commissioner and the police

1688
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,760
Speaker 12: said yesterday were not issuing a permit view to march

1689
01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:59,720
Speaker 12: on the Sydney Harbor Bridge on Sunday. But what the

1690
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 12: org the pro Paler Sydney and organizers are now going

1691
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:05,720
Speaker 12: to do is challenge that in court or respond to

1692
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 12: a police request of the courts to issue a no

1693
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:12,719
Speaker 12: march order. Now this is going to get very ugly

1694
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 12: because I can see these people. What they will do

1695
01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 12: is they'll be told they can't do it, they'll try

1696
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:19,599
Speaker 12: and do it. They'll be a clash of police and

1697
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:22,679
Speaker 12: there will be global coverage because the Sydney Harbor Bridge

1698
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 12: is as iconic as the Sydney Opera House. They're the

1699
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:28,720
Speaker 12: two most iconic images out of Australia. This will go

1700
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:31,559
Speaker 12: around the world and so this is exactly what the

1701
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 12: organizers of the march want to have happened.

1702
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:36,240
Speaker 2: Okay, the other thing I'm following with a great deal

1703
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:38,360
Speaker 2: of interest, and I think they're buying themselves too much

1704
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 2: trouble here. So this under sixteen band on social media,

1705
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:44,120
Speaker 2: which isn't going to work, despite the fact many people think,

1706
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:46,720
Speaker 2: you know, I wish it would. But nevertheless, YouTube is

1707
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:50,000
Speaker 2: not social media. It's a video sharing platform. And that's

1708
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:51,240
Speaker 2: the whole argument, isn't it.

1709
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 12: Yes, it is, and they've been spending a lot of

1710
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:56,120
Speaker 12: money on advertising trying to make their case in the

1711
01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 12: last two weeks. It hasn't worked. Communications Minister Anika Well

1712
01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:04,559
Speaker 12: will make an announcement in Canberra today that the government

1713
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 12: was giving kids quote reprieve from the persuasive and pervasive

1714
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 12: pull of social media while giving parents peace of mind.

1715
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:16,559
Speaker 12: We are adding YouTube to the age restriction laws, which

1716
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:19,639
Speaker 12: will take effect if this passes Parliament, and it's likely

1717
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:24,680
Speaker 12: to from December ten. So you've got TikTok, Instagram and

1718
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 12: now you've got YouTube. Now, the argument in favor of

1719
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:32,120
Speaker 12: YouTube its educational value and it should be treated differently

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Speaker 12: to those other platforms. I agree with you, But the

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Speaker 12: government says no, we're going to do this. They say

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01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 12: there's no one perfect solution when it comes to keeping

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Speaker 12: young Australians safer online. But the social media minimum age

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Speaker 12: will make a positive difference.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'll believe that when I see it. By the way,

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Speaker 2: is there discussion yet on Trump who yesterday from Scotland

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Speaker 2: said rest of the world re tariffs, it's fifteen to

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Speaker 2: twenty percent. We could land on twenty, which is you

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Speaker 2: land on twenty, you will land on twenty. Is anybody

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Speaker 2: up in arms about this?

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Speaker 12: No, not really. When we presume that it's going to

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01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:09,360
Speaker 12: come to happen, and if you get twenty then I

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01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 12: think the feeling in Canberra is that you've gotten off

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01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 12: reasonably lightly. Now there may be some room for Australia

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01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:18,799
Speaker 12: to negotiate because clearly what we do is we import

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Speaker 12: a lot more from America than what they export to us.

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01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:25,720
Speaker 12: The beef deal has been done. There's some feeling in

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Speaker 12: the background by the Coalition that that deal over beef

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01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 12: imports to Australia, which has been sort of loosened up

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01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:36,879
Speaker 12: to a degree, would mean that we might be treated differently.

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01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:40,240
Speaker 12: It appears Donald Trump doesn't really have a great regard

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Speaker 12: for Australia, Anthony Albany is he can't still can't get

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01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:46,839
Speaker 12: a meeting with him. He doesn't understand or he pretends

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01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:49,599
Speaker 12: he doesn't understand UCAS and so I think we're just

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01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:52,680
Speaker 12: on the back burner on the bookshelf and he doesn't care.

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Speaker 2: Well, Mate'll see next week. Appreciated Steve Price out of Australia.

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Speaker 2: The other thing I was reading about this renewable thing

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01:22:57,160 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 2: in Australia's very good point. Actually renters will miss out.

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01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:05,800
Speaker 2: So the solar industry in Australia absolutely booming, but if

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01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 2: you're a renter, it doesn't necessarily boom at your place

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01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:09,479
Speaker 2: because you're renting a house that may not have sold,

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01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 2: so you have no advantage. And then we've got the

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01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:14,960
Speaker 2: installation of batteries and the rebates. That program is being

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01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:16,599
Speaker 2: rolled out at the moment, so you've got this sort

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01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:21,439
Speaker 2: of what they call the two stage transition to and

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01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:23,800
Speaker 2: people who don't have garages as the other thing which

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01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:26,600
Speaker 2: are offering renters can't charge their car. So would you

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01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:28,360
Speaker 2: buy an electric car if you can't charge it at

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01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 2: your house? No, And you're renting a house with those

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Speaker 2: solar panels on the roof. Are you saving money?

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Speaker 12: No?

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01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 2: Are you part of the renewables revolution? No, So they're

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01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:37,640
Speaker 2: trying to work out how to get around that. Eight

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Speaker 2: forty five.

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Speaker 1: The High Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: At be just announce news in New Zealand CEO has

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Speaker 2: been announcing Nikhil Or Rubbers Shunka, who I believe is

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01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 2: their tech guy, cheap digital officer wasn't far out, so

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Speaker 2: I congratulations to him. It's an internal appointment. We'll get

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Speaker 2: him on eventually. It's a very important job being the

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Speaker 2: CEO of the New Zealand Warness. Congratulations to him. I

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01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:09,639
Speaker 2: don't know how long he's been with the airline. An

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01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:12,719
Speaker 2: internal appointment makes it for interesting reading to the extent,

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01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:14,920
Speaker 2: and I will ask him this because I don't want

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01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:18,639
Speaker 2: to be negative about it, to the extent that how

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01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 2: global was the search and in searching globally, how many

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01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:23,599
Speaker 2: people did they find that they thought could do the job,

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Speaker 2: that actually wanted to work for Air New Zealand and

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Speaker 2: the country late New Zealand. So we got lucky to agree,

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Speaker 2: depending on your view of Greg Forum that it was

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01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:32,600
Speaker 2: an ex pat coming back to the country to do

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01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 2: some good work Luxe and was the same sort of thing,

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01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:38,760
Speaker 2: I guess. But there's your new CEO by the way,

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Speaker 2: just before I leave the renewable thing. Very good piece

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Speaker 2: in the Herald yesterday about the Rahui solo farm. It's

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01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 2: just huge amounts. I just cannot get my head around

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01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 2: how big this renewables thing needs to be. So Terra

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01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:58,800
Speaker 2: Hui is seven hundred and fifty million dollars. It's going

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01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 2: to be between Napier and Town Poe. Construction starts hopefully

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01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 2: later this year, if not early next year. It's on

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01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:13,440
Speaker 2: a thousand hectares of farmland, a thousand, seven hundred thousand

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01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 2: solar panels. And they'll say something like, oh yeah, but

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01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:20,800
Speaker 2: they're behind a hedge and that's fine, But that's a

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01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:24,120
Speaker 2: hell of an impingement visually on the land, on the landscape,

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01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:27,280
Speaker 2: isn't it. Currently Hawks Bay has got no commercial scale

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01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 2: solar farms. That's all about to change. They've got another

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01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 2: one that on the on the coming thirty five hectares.

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01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:35,760
Speaker 2: Two more are proposed for on the on is going

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Speaker 2: to be the home of the solar and another one

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Speaker 2: next to Hawks Bay Airport Napier. But you know, on

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Speaker 2: oner at thirty five hectares is not a thousand hectares

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01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 2: and it's not seven hundred thousand solar panels. The next question,

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Speaker 2: I don't think the story covered it. How many homes

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01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:54,799
Speaker 2: does that power? You know for that for that visual impact?

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01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 2: How much power do you get for how many homes

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01:25:57,120 --> 01:25:58,879
Speaker 2: out of that nine away from nine.

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Speaker 2: Mike, you get no power from seven hundred thousand panels

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Speaker 2: at seven pm on the twenty feth of June. But

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Speaker 2: have thought you to be all foresoul the power Murray,

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Speaker 2: I am, I mean, I am, and I'm not. I mean.

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Speaker 2: I'm for anything that works, and you can back up

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01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:27,840
Speaker 2: and make interesting. And I worry about how they made.

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01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:29,760
Speaker 2: I worry about what you do with them when they

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01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:32,559
Speaker 2: run out of life. I worry about the cost of them.

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01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:35,679
Speaker 2: I worried about the investment and investment out. In other words,

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01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:37,720
Speaker 2: to take seven years plus to get your money back

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01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 2: if it's sitting on your house, or worry about the

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01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:40,720
Speaker 2: cost of a battery, all of those sort of things.

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01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:42,680
Speaker 2: This is all part of the new landscape, but I'm

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01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 2: not against them. Per Se five away from nine.

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Speaker 2: If you're following this Genes campaign, this is Sydney Sweeney.

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01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 2: The thing's gone off. It's been going for a couple

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01:27:55,000 --> 01:28:00,800
Speaker 2: of days now. Sidney Sweeney, you know the actress. There's

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01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 2: lots of versions of the aid, but in all versions

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01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:07,759
Speaker 2: they have the phrase Sidney Sweeney has great jeans.

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Speaker 7: I'm not here to tell you to buy American Eagle Chance,

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Speaker 7: and I definitely won't say that they're the most comfortable

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Speaker 7: chance I've.

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Speaker 16: Ever worn, or that they make your butt look amazing.

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01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:21,920
Speaker 16: Why do I need to do that.

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01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:25,919
Speaker 2: But if you said that you want to buy the jeans,

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01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:29,479
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna stop you. But as the we're clear,

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01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:32,719
Speaker 2: this is not me telling you to buy American Egle Chance.

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01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:37,640
Speaker 2: Sidney's Sweeney has very keen You see what I did there, right? Satans?

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Speaker 2: You mentioned the word jeans. It sits off the nats

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Speaker 2: on social media.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, it's like it's like pure Nazi propaganda.

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Speaker 14: It's in our genes, white jeans, that what you're trying

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01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 14: to think. White people look at her like she's just

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Speaker 14: skinny arian.

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Speaker 11: They're they're trying.

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Speaker 2: To get rid of people of color, people of different genders,

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Speaker 2: people of like everything.

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Speaker 6: But wait, nothing people.

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Speaker 2: So that's for the meme stock thing. It's like game

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01:29:14,280 --> 01:29:17,120
Speaker 2: stock if you remember Game Stop a while back, and

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01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:19,760
Speaker 2: this is sort of the same on the market, and

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01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 2: the whole thing is a reasonably good example of just

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01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:27,040
Speaker 2: how mental the world is at the moment. So what's

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01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:30,960
Speaker 2: more clever Sydney Swingey in that or Gwyneth Paltrow at

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01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:34,600
Speaker 2: what a Biography or whatever the name of the company is.

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Speaker 2: That that's pretty clever. I'm favoring Gwyneth Persons book coming

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Speaker 2: in Where Were They? We're out of Here? Back tomorrow

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Speaker 2: morning on The Mic Hosking Breakfast from six as always

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