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Speaker 2: It'd be good morning, welcome to your Monday. Just gone

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Speaker 2: Should we worry or should we actually just all come

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Speaker 2: It is Monday, the ninth of September. Three Israelis have

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Speaker 2: Israel's land crossings with Jordan have now been closed. Police

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Speaker 2: More than four hundred Christian organizations have signed up to

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Speaker 5: There's nothing more democratic than on.

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Speaker 6: In your agreement.

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Speaker 2: David Seymour says the churches are not a moral compass,

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Speaker 2: News Talk Sa'd be eight minutes after five nine two

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Speaker 5: It's a tough decision, but I'm determined that we will

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Speaker 2: POLP International is expected to make a decision today and

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Speaker 8: Well, my understanding and is ryan that there's been postponed

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Speaker 8: Yes, I am hopeful. I think there's been a genuine

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Speaker 2: Is realistically western. There's nothing the government can do in

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Speaker 2: All right, Weston, thank you very much for that. Updated

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Speaker 4: Greetings, Ryan. Nothing like self praise, No praise, is it?

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Speaker 2: News Talk said, be good morning. It is twenty four

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Speaker 7: This is eight hundred hectares of Whiteitucky farmland, tussck and

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Speaker 7: Spots of lake rain this afternoon for Dneeda and strong

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Speaker 2: Claire Sherwood is in christ just this morning. Clear farming

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Speaker 2: And how's your weather today?

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Speaker 2: Thank you, you have a good day. And Max is

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Speaker 2: Goodness me, it sounds like an absolute nightmare. Poor things

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Speaker 6: Should we mainly fine? Strong norwesterlies fifteen the high Central.

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Speaker 5: Mirita says that the money has decided what to do

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Speaker 5: with the sign, but it's not going to cover the construction.

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Speaker 5: So but everybody knows that sign. It's it's very retro.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at it's like something out of Vegas. It's

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Speaker 2: a tall fifteen meter high Hi.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I I think the last time I was in

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Speaker 5: I saw the sign and then we were talking about

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Speaker 2: But where if they put the sign net?

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Speaker 5: Well, it's just kind of just yeah, they've taken it

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Speaker 5: down because it was round and roundabout. So now they've

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Speaker 2: And it's so it's resting somewhere.

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Speaker 5: And it's resting somewhere.

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Speaker 2: Because you said they need to construct it. I mean

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Speaker 2: it's already constructed, doesn't it Just put it back up just.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, you know, depend how many bolts need

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Speaker 2: We don't want another pylon. We don't want another pylon

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Speaker 10: On following those rides that we've been reporting on following

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Speaker 10: the stabbings in Northwest England? But it would appear that

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Speaker 10: I'm afraid. In Glasgow, Scotland, more anti racism protesters meeted

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Speaker 10: Police briefly drew their batons and shouted at the protesters

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Speaker 10: to get away, with two people arrested during the protests,

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Speaker 10: but there were pretty unpleasant scenes in and around George Square.

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Speaker 10: So what happened was two to three thousand people joined

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Speaker 10: an anti racism rally, but about three hundred and fifty

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Speaker 10: people were at a rival demonstration calling on the government

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Speaker 10: to get much tougher on those coming across illegally on

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Speaker 10: the small boats. And then a group of mass men

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Speaker 10: believe to be a sort of ultra group of Celtic

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Speaker 10: football fans, a so called Green Brigade, had to be

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Speaker 10: contained in a corner of the square as they believed

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Speaker 10: they were sort of coming up behind the anti racism group.

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Speaker 10: But at one point a man brandishing what appeared to

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Speaker 10: be two sticks, rushing towards the square was grabbed by

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Speaker 10: police and bundled into the back of a van. With

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Speaker 10: the barriers trying to keep the two groups of demonstrators

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Speaker 10: apart at one point being overwhelmed. But anyway, police I

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Speaker 10: think would be pretty keen that it passed off reasonably peacefully.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sounds like I remember Gonzales, the Venezuela and opposition

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Speaker 2: leader presidential candidate.

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Speaker 10: He has fled to Spain, Yes, and that is because

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Speaker 10: a Spanish air Force plane carrying him landed in an

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Speaker 10: airbase in Madrid. He's going to be granted political asylum there.

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Speaker 10: He's been hiding in Venezuela because there's been a warrant

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Speaker 10: for his arrest issued. After the opposition disputed the presidential

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Speaker 10: election result back in July that saw the incumbent Nicolas

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Speaker 10: Maduro handed a third term. There are thoughts that he,

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Speaker 10: mister Nozales, felt for his life, frankly fed for his life,

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Speaker 10: and other opposition organizers are saying that the Maduro administration

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Speaker 10: has unleashed a brutal wave of repression following the election.

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Speaker 10: Now many people are questioning the election results, which Nicholas

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Speaker 10: Maduro said that he won easily, but some are saying, look,

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Speaker 10: we'll publish the voting tallies. There's international pressure for him

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Speaker 10: to do that. They simply do not believe the scores

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Speaker 10: that have come out of these votes, and countries including

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Speaker 10: the US, the European Union, the majority of foreign governors

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Speaker 10: refusing to accept Nicholas Maduro as a winner without Caracas

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Speaker 10: releasing that voting data.

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Speaker 2: Gavin, thank you for that, Kevin Gray are UK europe

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Speaker 2: correspond interestingly, a lot of people questioning that result, of course,

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Speaker 2: when you've got a dictator like Maduro in charge. But

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Speaker 2: the Venezuelans I think will vote with their feet, more

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Speaker 2: of them. So in the past ten years, the JDP

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Speaker 2: in Venezuela has dropped eighty percent in just ten years,

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Speaker 2: and seven million people have immigrated out of there. This

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Speaker 2: is a country of just twenty eight million people. So

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Speaker 2: you'd have to say, with more problems and the opposition

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Speaker 2: leader having to flee, more of them will do the same.

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Speaker 2: And then what does that create border issues for the US.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure something that will be discussed in the debate

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Speaker 2: that is coming with Harris and Trump. On Wednesday ten

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Speaker 2: to six, Bryan Bridge, there's been eleven homicides in New

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Speaker 2: Zealand just over a month and people are free kicking

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Speaker 2: out a little bit, at least some in the media are.

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Speaker 2: I suppose the latest was on Saturday night when a

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Speaker 2: man was dropped off at Kaitaia Hospital with serious injuries,

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Speaker 2: later dying as a result. The annual police homicide report

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Speaker 2: released in June says New Zealand averages seventy two deaths

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Speaker 2: by homicide per year. John Munroe is a criminal defense lawyer.

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Speaker 2: He's with us this morning, John, Good morning, Good morning man.

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Speaker 2: Just a spike, random, nothing to worry about.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's look, it could be. Who knows that, it

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Speaker 3: does seem at the moment, especially to be reading the

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Speaker 3: media and seeing a lot of homicides taking place more

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Speaker 3: recently than normal.

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Speaker 8: Who knows what it is from.

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Speaker 3: But a good criminologist would say there's many, many reasons

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Speaker 3: for spikes and homicides.

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Speaker 2: I guess you can't you look at a trend, right,

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Speaker 2: You have to look at a trend if you're looking

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Speaker 2: at policies and things around it. In the short term, though,

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Speaker 2: for police having such a large case load, did they

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Speaker 2: have the you know, are they probably resourced to be

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Speaker 2: able to look into all of those things?

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm sure they're stretched, but but I suppose the

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Speaker 3: promising thing is that we have a very very good

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Speaker 3: police force. They're very well equipped, they're good police, they're

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Speaker 3: they're they're competent, and certainly from from practicing in myself

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Speaker 3: in other areas of the of the world, New Zealand

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Speaker 3: would have to be rating it among once one of

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Speaker 3: the better ones in the in the world in the

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Speaker 3: criminal justice system as well.

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Speaker 2: Do you think people should be worried when they see

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Speaker 2: spikes like this? I mean, people inevitably do, but the

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Speaker 2: reality is you're you're most likely to be killed by

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Speaker 2: somebody that you that you know, right, it's not randoms

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Speaker 2: going out killing randoms.

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Speaker 8: That's right.

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Speaker 3: It's it's it's very raally some sort of cross fire

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Speaker 3: or machine gun fire, pet someone getting the public getting

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Speaker 3: hit in the street. It's very very rare to see

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Speaker 3: that sort of thing happen. So, you know, generally speaking,

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Speaker 3: like you say, the publica are still safe.

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Speaker 2: You said you'd worked in the UK before. Do we

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Speaker 2: have like in terms of international comparisons, we do quite well.

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Speaker 2: Not that it's something you do well at obviously, but

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Speaker 2: we have what I should says, we have a relatively

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Speaker 2: low homicide rate here, don't we.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we do, we do, compare to I've worked in

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Speaker 3: the UK, but I haven't worked in the US. But

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Speaker 3: if you look at the US, you know that's catastrophic.

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Speaker 3: And we have a really good system of justice as well.

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Speaker 3: So we have a good system of police catching people,

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Speaker 3: and we have a really good system of justice and

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Speaker 3: dealing with people as well. So I think overall, even

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Speaker 3: though I can't put a positive spin on it, at

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Speaker 3: least we have those good systems in place.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for that. John John Munroe, criminal defense lawyer,

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Speaker 2: eight minutes away from six ran Bridge. So we had

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Speaker 2: seventy two homicides in a year that was last year,

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Speaker 2: and only a third of those are murders, So that's

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Speaker 2: somebody you know, intentionally going out and killing. So that's

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Speaker 2: about twenty four murders in New Zealand over a year.

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Speaker 2: And then you think about of those it was potentially

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Speaker 2: gang related or people who knew someone. Domestic violence is

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Speaker 2: sadly another terrible blight on these numbers. But you start

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Speaker 2: to whittle it down and you say, do I need

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Speaker 2: to be Do I really need to be worried about

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Speaker 2: being murdered in New Zealand? You know, by a random

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Speaker 2: on the street. Probably not News and Views you trust

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Speaker 2: is here with you next. Good morning, Mike, Good morning.

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Speaker 11: We'll have the traditional post game analysis of the All Blacks.

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Speaker 11: And you're talking about bangsting about crime, whether we're do

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Speaker 11: you think we still do in this country?

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Speaker 2: Remember you'd go back.

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Speaker 11: I don't know what would you go about twenty years

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Speaker 11: and the Monday morning conversation after an All Black loss.

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Speaker 11: Far less a couple of losses, there would be a

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Speaker 2: Miss wouldn't there? There'll be there.

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Speaker 11: I just don't know if there is anymore.

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Speaker 2: No, A lot of people are watching I don't know

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Speaker 2: UFC or basketball or a whole bunch of other stuff,

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Speaker 2: aren't they It's doesn't.

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Speaker 11: I just wonder it hasn't not the same group that

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Speaker 11: it once did.

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Speaker 2: But I was thinking at the weekend, actually, where as

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Speaker 2: a society don't have the same grip on a lot

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Speaker 2: of things because we're all watching different.

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Speaker 11: Things now, we're so so segregated. The general conversation of

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Speaker 11: the things that we sort of all collectively did together

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Speaker 11: hasn't happened for years. I'm just I'm just not sure

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Speaker 11: how worried we are about the all blacks. But nevertheless,

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Speaker 11: if you saw the Australian so the gz use how

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Speaker 11: useless today incredible?

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Speaker 2: So we should win the bleaderslow cups. Well we will

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Speaker 2: win the blue to slow cups.

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Speaker 11: So that's something, doesn't it?

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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 11: Anyway, Ian Jones as whether it's on that another matters

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Speaker 11: after seven o'clock and look.

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Speaker 2: Forward to it. It is coming up to six. Thank

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Speaker 2: you for listening everybody. I will see you tomorrow. Have

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Speaker 2: a great day.

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