1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Good idea or desperation. As the five hundred new cop 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: promise gets delayed yet again, they think now it's going 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: to go out till maybe August of next year. The 4 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: new plan is to target Australia. They of course have 5 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: been targeting US Chris car Hill's Police Association president and 6 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: as with us, Chris, good morning to. 7 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 2: You, Good morning Mike. 8 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: Are we getting a bit hung up on numbers? I mean, 9 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 1: how many of these five hundred do we desperately need 10 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: right here, right now? Or is it more about a 11 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: political promise. 12 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: There's certainly a big element of political promise in it. 13 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: I mean we've got eleven of the five hundred so fast. 14 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 2: That's actually half far away. So I think we need 15 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 2: to just stop talking about dates in the future and 16 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 2: just concentrate it is desperate in some areas, some of 17 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 2: the smaller rural places in the East Coast, far North, 18 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:45,919 Speaker 2: thus struggling with numbers big time. That makes a big 19 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: impact a lot of the gappers in Auckland. So you 20 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: can cover it because you've got bigger numbers, but over 21 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: time it has a real impact on staffing up there. 22 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: We are not going who would we get out of 23 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: Australia given there here telling us look at look at 24 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: you know Lebar and the sunshine, and here's some money. 25 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: But what have we got to offer. 26 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: La la land ideas? And now I can see the campaign, 27 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: I'll come and enjoy a thirty percent drop of wages, 28 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 2: higher house prices, higher cost of living in law superinnuation. 29 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 2: It's a great one here and they'll be crying up. 30 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,559 Speaker 2: It's just a silly idea and police need to start 31 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: concentrating on the real issues. I mean, one of the 32 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 2: key things they have to look at as their immuneration structure. 33 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: You've got a system where cops take twenty one years 34 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 2: to get the top of a constable's pay band, nurses 35 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: and teachers take seven. Look at the things that will 36 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: make a real difference in New Zealand. 37 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: Being a policeman. Correct me if I'm wrong, Chris. But 38 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: getting recruiting police people is a problem all over the world. 39 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a crappy old world and it's hard work. 40 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: Is that fear, Yeah, it's definitely fair. There's multiple reasons. 41 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: A couple that stand out seem to be police officers 42 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: themselves are not telling family and friends to join their 43 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: saying the job's chained is to come too dangerous, has 44 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 2: come to hard and their mental health the other things 45 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: to be used. Just don't see a job that requires 46 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 2: you to work twenty four to seven, seven days a 47 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: week as a career choice they're interested in. And that's 48 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 2: a real concern, that's a real show. I mean, we've 49 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: got fifteen percent youth unemployment, eighteen to twenty four year olds. 50 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 2: You can't recruit in that environment. What's it going to 51 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 2: look like when the economy picks up? So got to 52 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 2: look at some of the fundamental issues I think. 53 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: Okay, Chris, always good to have you on the program. 54 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Chris Calnhill, who's the Police Association president. 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