1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: Darcy Watergrove Sports Talk Coasters with me. 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 2: Hello, Darcey Ellen. 3 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Does he have a point about the haka? 4 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 2: Why not? What it is is basically it's living rent 5 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: free in his head and it's just really STFU because 6 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: shut up. It doesn't matter to the all Blacks. They 7 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: don't key complaining that you want mate, stop it if 8 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 2: you don't like it. 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: Okay, So this is Martin. 10 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: What he's trying to do is get clickbait because he's 11 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 2: not playing, he's injured, he has gone. 12 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: Maybe he's just having an opinion. I think he's got 13 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:38,959 Speaker 1: a point. Can I explain to you absolutely. I think 14 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: that everything that we do before international tests is ridiculous, 15 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 1: like the national anthems for example, what the hell are 16 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: we doing before playing a game of footy? That's all 17 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: it is. 18 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:50,639 Speaker 2: Don't even move to America. 19 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: Why are they standing there singing songs like they're going 20 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: to go to war with each other? It's a game 21 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: of football. 22 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: Not a fan of the national anthems, but not a 23 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 2: fan of constantly playing Star Spangled But it's all very 24 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 2: I know, it's very. 25 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: I mean look because have a look, for example at 26 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: an NPC game or a super rugby game right, we're 27 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: not having songs and carry on playing your hand, which 28 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: is going we just go off play the game exactly. 29 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: Maybe I have a countdown on the big screens. 30 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: Five now it does. Maybe back in the day when 31 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: when an international test was a really rare, weird thing 32 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: because you couldn't really travel, I can understand that you 33 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 1: wanted to stand there and sing and make a big 34 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: before the show performance. But it's like a dime a 35 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: dozen't now give rid of all the stuff. 36 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 2: I suppose I'd throw this back at you, like myself, 37 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 2: unless I'm sadly mistaken, never represented your country in any 38 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 2: sport at the highest level. This is true because I'd 39 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 2: suggest that for people that have dedicated their life to 40 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: getting that jersey, jersey what. 41 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: It is, I'm not sentimental and they get a. 42 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: Huge amount of pride going I have worked my butt 43 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: off my entire life. I want to them like that 44 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 2: twenty three and you play the anthem for me and 45 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: I'm proud. 46 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: Really, I counter that with the proportion of all blacks 47 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: who sing the anthem. 48 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 2: Well, you're talking about your homeland again. 49 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: No, the proportion of all blacks who sing the anthem standing, 50 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: they just stand there to half of them don't even 51 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 1: know the lyrics. 52 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 2: No, they don't. They don't know the words, so that's 53 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: been embarrassing. When they do that, they pan it across 54 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 2: and can see them kind of gulping. And then you 55 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 2: go to other countries and they climb right into it 56 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: and they love it. 57 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: I know, the Japanese squad, we're not that singing at 58 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: the weekend. 59 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 2: But when you look at the nature of international sport, though, 60 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 2: there's what a percentage maybe eighty percent of actual born 61 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:39,679 Speaker 2: New Zealanders that play in the team. A lot of 62 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 2: these guys like I did three years residency. Hell are 63 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 2: you singing? 64 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: So to the point is all of the stuff that 65 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: we do before an international test, like the drama of it, 66 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit lost in the modern era when 67 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: actually it doesn't feel like that dramatic an event. 68 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 2: Remember back in the day, when Buck Shelford is actually 69 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: joining us to silence sports talk to talk about this, 70 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 2: I would say, Sir Wayne shelf the point he revitalized 71 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 2: the haka. But remember back in the day it was 72 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 2: only actually performed away from home. Yes, at home, yes, 73 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 2: and that made it really special because yes, I'm staying 74 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 2: at the middle of the night to watching it to 75 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 2: see that even though they butchered it every time, it 76 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 2: was something to look at. Whereas now it's at home, 77 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 2: a lot of people really enjoy it. They completely buy into. 78 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 2: They like the challenge nature, the respect nature, the whole thing. 79 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: But I think I think, Marla, you know what happened 80 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: straight after that, Well he deleted the tweet and then 81 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: collapsed his Twitter account and ran away. So I think 82 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 2: he got some responses he didn't like. I think he panicked. 83 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: He's like, can you give me some swing low sweet 84 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: charity anytimes? 85 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: So traditionally, you're obviously talking about it tonight. 86 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. And also the man behind the new Indian NBL team, Yeah, 87 00:03:58,800 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 2: the Panthers. 88 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: Interesting, Okay, Darcy, thank you, Darcy Wild Grow Sports Soral Coast. 89 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: We're back at seven for more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive. 90 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: Listen live to news talks. 91 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 2: It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast 92 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 2: on iHeartRadio