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Speaker 1: Winston's ferry plan gets the tick of approval from Cabinet

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Speaker 1: or two techs actually, because we get two new fairies

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Speaker 1: crossing the Cook Straight by Christmas twenty twenty nine. That

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Speaker 1: is the promise. They'll have road and rail decks in

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Speaker 1: capacity for fifteen hundred passengers. They'll be longer than the

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Speaker 1: current vessels, smaller than the canceled byres ones, but cheaper.

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Speaker 1: Minister for Ral Winston peters with me hime, Minister, Hello,

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Speaker 1: you happy with this?

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir? Well by Christmas twenty twenty nine you'll have

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Speaker 2: two brand new inn Island fairies. They'll be going across

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Speaker 2: the Cook Straight and they will take you, your family,

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Speaker 2: the caravan, the dog and all the rest across the

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Speaker 2: Cook Straight, which is what most is yell does and

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Speaker 2: a mass majority want.

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Speaker 1: Will we have in the meantime problems getting across the

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Speaker 1: Cook Straight? Will the revamp of pectin Will the upgrade

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Speaker 1: to Wellington affect the current ferry operation?

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Speaker 2: Look, I saw the experts who are doing the advice

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Speaker 2: to cure right now in terms of the existing fairies,

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Speaker 2: their maintenance, what's required. They gave me a serious overview

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Speaker 2: today of how much work they've done on it, and

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Speaker 2: they are very confident that these present utilities are going

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Speaker 2: to be capable of going well past twenty twenty nine,

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Speaker 2: which is the date with the transfer to two brand

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Speaker 2: new Fairies.

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Speaker 1: So we'll have one hundred percent capacity as it stands

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Speaker 1: right now, right through until the end of twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: nine when we're expected to get the new ones. Yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: And what do you make of the reaction today to

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Speaker 1: some of this? I mean, the Maritime Union has said

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Speaker 1: that it was a big mistake for Nickolo Willis to

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Speaker 1: cancel those contracts back in December of twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: You don't agree with that, Well.

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Speaker 2: Look, the problem was that we had ordered two fairies

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Speaker 2: at four hundred and one million dollars in May of

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty and it blew out where the fairies were

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Speaker 2: going to be less than twenty percent of the cost

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Speaker 2: and the infrastructure was going to cost over eighty percent,

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Speaker 2: and so it was just impossible when Treasurer was saying

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Speaker 2: this could go past four billion dollars, see what went wrong?

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Speaker 2: So we went out to save billions of dollars with

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Speaker 2: us practical common sense.

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Speaker 1: Solution was Nikola Willis's solution, not practical in common sense

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Speaker 1: because it didn't include rail.

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Speaker 2: It was Nicola Willis's canceling of the IRX project. It

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Speaker 2: was totally vindicated by this decision, because we'd have bought

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Speaker 2: those two fairies, built them, not being able to use

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Speaker 2: them because we didn't have the infrastructure, we'd had to

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Speaker 2: put them on the international market, and it would been

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Speaker 2: a bias market. We'd have been taken for the cleaners,

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Speaker 2: because when you've got to get rid of two boats,

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Speaker 2: you got no options, then down comes the price. We

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Speaker 2: hadn't lost a mass amount of money on.

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Speaker 1: That, Okay, understand that. But her solution was to follow

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Speaker 1: the advice of this MINISTERI or group was it not,

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Speaker 1: and they recommended buying two fairies that weren't rail enabled.

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Speaker 2: Well, the problem with that was that her group looked

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Speaker 2: at one option and didn't look at the alternatives. And

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Speaker 2: the alternatives when we were working on them, in terms

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Speaker 2: of being rail and wrote enable so to speak, were

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Speaker 2: much cheaper, much more enduring, and in line with the

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Speaker 2: decisions made by there. I say, some wiser all the

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Speaker 2: politicians going back decades and decades ago.

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Speaker 1: Do you think does it worry you that the minister

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Speaker 1: was just going to go along with the Ministerial Advisory

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Speaker 1: Group and potentially by us two fairies that were more

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Speaker 1: expensive and not rail enabled.

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Speaker 2: Hang on, this is a minister who listened to other

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Speaker 2: cabinet advice and said, okay, let's suspend what I was

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Speaker 2: thinking about and let's see what you guys can do.

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Speaker 2: And we went out and consulted as widely as we could,

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Speaker 2: with all manner of shipping companies, with all manner of people,

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Speaker 2: with the total industry, with the Port of Marlborough, with

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Speaker 2: SEDA Port and Willington and Kerrie Rail, and we came

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Speaker 2: up with a much better option. So she made the

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Speaker 2: right decision twice.

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Speaker 1: I suppose she did, Hey, this Benjamin Doyle stuff. Are

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Speaker 1: you more worked up over the posts themselves or the

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Speaker 1: fact that the media didn't report on them until you did.

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Speaker 2: Well, look you've seen over the past any MP that's

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Speaker 2: got something in my way of correspondence? Or dare I

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Speaker 2: say phone calls or dare I say posts that have

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Speaker 2: come under investigation. Those people have been taken to the

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Speaker 2: cleaners by the media. And here comes someone with all

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Speaker 2: sorts of posts now being taken down because they are

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Speaker 2: suspicious as to their content. And not one mainstream media

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Speaker 2: person was asking them for days and days and days.

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Speaker 2: But go back further than that. This was all there

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Speaker 2: before he was chosen to be a replacement candidate in

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Speaker 2: Parliament and promptly he pulled it down. And now my

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Speaker 2: question is to the Green parties, what on earth do

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Speaker 2: you think this parliament is? Why you did you yourself

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Speaker 2: not know this? In the meantime, he's been screaming out

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Speaker 2: for peerity blockers being made available to all sorts of

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Speaker 2: children at the taxpayer's expense, giving children a sexual prevalence

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Speaker 2: preference and choices when they're far too young to make

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Speaker 2: up their minds, where all the international evidence says this

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Speaker 2: is so dangerous, and he pressed on with it. That's

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Speaker 2: the point I'm asking the media to go and ask

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Speaker 2: him the questions and ask the Greens what on earth

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Speaker 2: they think this is about. Now here's the point on

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Speaker 2: my post. There have been thousands of Rainbow people backing

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Speaker 2: what we're saying and saying this is just so damning

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Speaker 2: of their own position, which is legitimate, which is not

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Speaker 2: to be challenged, but worst of all, contaminates what they

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Speaker 2: think they are. All right, this is the Shamans that's

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Speaker 2: turned up here.

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Speaker 1: Winston Peters appreciate your time. The Minister for Rail on

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