1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Shane. Sally Harbor Asset Management is with us now. Hey Shane, 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: Hey here, So Shane, the US markets have given back 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: some of the games since the election. Again, since the election, 4 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: when you think it's going to continue to be choppy. 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,239 Speaker 2: Well, I look, we've seen last week the US S 6 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 2: and P five that's the board, broad Benchmark's down two percent. 7 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: Tech stocks they were down three percent, And it's all 8 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 2: about we're seeing an unwind of this Trump trade, this 9 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: losing steam. Federal Reserve came out and said we're not 10 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 2: going to cut quite as fast as we thought. So 11 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 2: the odds of a cut from the US FED that 12 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 2: really back down before last week eighty percent of a cup. 13 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 2: Now they're talking about fifty eight percent next month. So 14 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 2: certainly that's taken some heat out and this initial you 15 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,279 Speaker 2: for around mister Trump's appointment, we've seen some people come 16 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: to the terms that there's a cost, and that's possibly 17 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: higher fiscal spending, higher a budget divisits, but more inflation. 18 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 2: S Bonds, particularly the US tenure bonds go right back 19 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: up to four point four percent. We saw that back 20 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: in April. So a lot of this team's coming out 21 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: is it choppy? Well, last few months of the month, sorry, 22 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: last few months for the year, I should say generally 23 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 2: good for US markets. But what we're seeing is earnings 24 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: start to get cut for the American market and the 25 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 2: tech stops they're the ones that have been holding up. 26 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: They were really weak late last week. But this is 27 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 2: the broader market. Is this earnings momentum that's been driving 28 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 2: the US market starting to fade some of the costs 29 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 2: that so they were associated with the provoking government come in. 30 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 2: So yeah, there's a bit of risk, it could be 31 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: a bit choppy. 32 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, what are you expecting. We've got our own Reserve 33 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: Bank review of the OCR this month. What are you 34 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: expecting there? 35 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 2: Well, market's telling me they're expecting half a percent, So 36 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: I've got to go with what the market consensus to saying. So, 37 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,199 Speaker 2: you know, the lead indicata is is justing confidence. Business 38 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: confidence starting to come off a low base, but it 39 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: is still really low. We are seeing inflation pressure continued 40 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: to fall, so that the right backing is there for 41 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: the RB and Z to continue to cut. Today we've 42 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 2: had some slightly more positive data out of the b 43 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 2: Z business in z PSI. So and that's assumer that says, 44 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: how are you feeling about what happens next. Is up 45 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: from up to forty six up points three percent, so 46 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: not a lot. Still below fifty and fifty years above fifty. 47 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 2: That means that economy is going to grow. If it's 48 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 2: below fifty, it's going to shrimp. So business is still saying, hey, 49 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 2: we're dealing with this slow down. And we also saw 50 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 2: some inflation data out today, some producer price data. I 51 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 2: won't go into the detail, but it basically said businesses 52 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: are unable to pass through all the cost increases. So yeah, 53 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: there's certainly a lead up for the RBS and to 54 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: continue to cut. The surprise would be if it was 55 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 2: a quarter of three quarters of a percent off it's 56 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 2: point seventy five percent, that would be a surprise. But 57 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: this is the last time before February next year the 58 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 2: Reserve Bank can make a statement they've got a big break. 59 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: So yeah, the past, the less regrets is what they're 60 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 2: talking about. They want to keep some gas in the 61 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 2: tank just in case they have to fight inflation more so, 62 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: my guess is that'll be what they do. Half a 63 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 2: percent and we're going to keep someone in the back 64 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 2: pocket just in case. 65 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: Hey, by the way, anything come out of that. The 66 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: Fonterra and your shareholders meeting today. 67 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 2: Look, you know, Fira, it's been a really good story. 68 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: That company has done a great job of repositioning. They 69 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 2: reaffirmed their earnings for Coast, gave similar guidance between forty 70 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 2: to sixty cents, but she that's for the Fonterra Shielders 71 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 2: Foundation and that compares to the market expectation of fifty 72 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 2: three cents. Stock was flat on the day, not bad. 73 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 2: The board was just saying, hey, look we're seeing another 74 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 2: year of stable performance. We're focused on keeping the return 75 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 2: on capital up. There have been battling to get the 76 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 2: return on capital back up to ten to twelve percent 77 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 2: from nine to ten, and they're saying, hey, we're going 78 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 2: to keep on focusing on investing for the future. Now. 79 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 2: One of the things that people were watching for is 80 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: if there's any update on the sale of the global 81 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 2: consumer business, and there it was none other than to 82 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: say the board was saying, it's the right strategy, we're 83 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: on track, we're doing the process, we're underway. Just be patient. 84 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: So not new, but the confirmation and the less was 85 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: pretty important for the broad and New Zealand economy. 86 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, brilliant. So Hey Shane, as always, thank you so much. 87 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: We talk to you in a week that Shane solely 88 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: of Harbor Asset Management. For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive. 89 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 2: Listen live to News Talk Said Be from four pm weekdays, 90 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 2: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio