1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast 2 00:00:10,613 --> 00:00:11,693 Speaker 1: from News Talks at Me. 3 00:00:12,773 --> 00:00:15,533 Speaker 2: Francesca Rudkin is our film reviewer. She's here with us 4 00:00:15,573 --> 00:00:20,173 Speaker 2: this morning. Kioda, how are you feeling about ray Gun? 5 00:00:23,773 --> 00:00:27,093 Speaker 3: AM trying? You're talking about that because tomorrow morning atually, 6 00:00:27,533 --> 00:00:32,653 Speaker 3: I don't understand what after such an intrudable Olympics, are 7 00:00:32,653 --> 00:00:35,813 Speaker 3: we focused on this? Why after Australia head one of 8 00:00:35,813 --> 00:00:38,133 Speaker 3: the best limps behead, are we focused on this? 9 00:00:39,173 --> 00:00:43,333 Speaker 2: Yeah? I know, it's It's just that talks to internet culture, 10 00:00:43,373 --> 00:00:45,333 Speaker 2: don't you think how Francesca? It kind of talks to 11 00:00:45,373 --> 00:00:49,133 Speaker 2: the the things that get people's attention. They wanted to 12 00:00:49,133 --> 00:00:51,093 Speaker 2: bring new audiences to the games and I think ray 13 00:00:51,133 --> 00:00:54,053 Speaker 2: Gun has definitely achieved that. Anyway, let's talk about this 14 00:00:54,093 --> 00:00:56,053 Speaker 2: week's films. We'll have a listen to one that is 15 00:00:56,053 --> 00:00:59,333 Speaker 2: showing at the New Zealand International Film Festival. This is 16 00:00:59,573 --> 00:01:10,093 Speaker 2: the hardest line. We wanted to write material that ed 17 00:01:10,173 --> 00:01:12,373 Speaker 2: you right in the face and say this is the truth. 18 00:01:15,293 --> 00:01:17,493 Speaker 2: You need to lend your voice to things. You can't 19 00:01:17,533 --> 00:01:27,253 Speaker 2: stay farling your push to the wall believing. Okay, that's 20 00:01:27,573 --> 00:01:30,493 Speaker 2: the hardest line. It's showing at the International Film Festival, 21 00:01:30,533 --> 00:01:39,373 Speaker 2: and it's a doco on Midnight Oil. Tell us about it, Franciscamary. 22 00:01:36,333 --> 00:01:40,453 Speaker 3: Should do a variety of SAMs, right, it should reveal 23 00:01:41,653 --> 00:01:42,293 Speaker 3: to us. 24 00:01:42,453 --> 00:01:45,133 Speaker 2: Okay, Francisca, I'm sorry, I'm going to interrupt you right there. 25 00:01:45,173 --> 00:01:48,533 Speaker 2: For whatever reason, we have a terrible connection with your line. 26 00:01:48,613 --> 00:01:50,053 Speaker 2: So we'll just see if we can get that sort 27 00:01:50,053 --> 00:01:51,933 Speaker 2: of out and then we'll come back and get your 28 00:01:51,933 --> 00:01:53,733 Speaker 2: thoughts on that in just a moment. Yeah, So The 29 00:01:53,773 --> 00:01:56,533 Speaker 2: Hardest Line is showing in the National Film Festival. It's 30 00:01:56,573 --> 00:02:00,573 Speaker 2: about Midnight Oil and it's got heaps of really good 31 00:02:00,693 --> 00:02:04,973 Speaker 2: old archival footage of Minata or performing. So yeah, if 32 00:02:04,973 --> 00:02:07,413 Speaker 2: you are a Midnight Oil fan or you want to, 33 00:02:08,733 --> 00:02:11,653 Speaker 2: you know, go and go and follow them from the 34 00:02:11,693 --> 00:02:15,773 Speaker 2: earliest days through their incredible rise. The Hardest Line could 35 00:02:15,813 --> 00:02:19,573 Speaker 2: be a very good option. Also, after ten o'clock this morning, 36 00:02:19,613 --> 00:02:22,053 Speaker 2: as well as our interview with Jody Pico very much 37 00:02:22,093 --> 00:02:23,853 Speaker 2: looking forward to that, we're going to tell you about 38 00:02:23,853 --> 00:02:26,773 Speaker 2: this amazing new docco It's called the Chloe Ailing Story. 39 00:02:26,773 --> 00:02:31,293 Speaker 2: Remember she was that model who was kidnapped and ended 40 00:02:31,373 --> 00:02:34,933 Speaker 2: up being released and became a kind of media sensation. 41 00:02:35,253 --> 00:02:38,133 Speaker 2: But there's so much detail around that high profile case 42 00:02:38,173 --> 00:02:39,613 Speaker 2: that we don't really know a whole lot about. So 43 00:02:39,653 --> 00:02:41,853 Speaker 2: we're going to explain that to you after ten o'clock 44 00:02:41,893 --> 00:02:43,893 Speaker 2: this morning. But we reckon Franchisca is back and that 45 00:02:43,933 --> 00:02:45,613 Speaker 2: the line is good. Are you there. 46 00:02:49,453 --> 00:02:49,613 Speaker 3: Now? 47 00:02:50,533 --> 00:02:53,693 Speaker 2: Say Peter Piper picked a peck of pick of peppers? 48 00:02:53,773 --> 00:02:54,293 Speaker 2: What did he do? 49 00:02:57,133 --> 00:03:00,013 Speaker 3: Let's get on and talk about it. I really love 50 00:03:00,093 --> 00:03:02,733 Speaker 3: this film. I really do love this film, and I 51 00:03:02,733 --> 00:03:05,293 Speaker 3: think I love a good music documentary. And as I 52 00:03:05,333 --> 00:03:07,853 Speaker 3: was saying, it should do, thinks it should reveal your 53 00:03:07,933 --> 00:03:11,573 Speaker 3: information for us, it should appeal to a broader audience 54 00:03:11,613 --> 00:03:15,533 Speaker 3: than just a fan base of that particular band or artist. 55 00:03:16,173 --> 00:03:19,893 Speaker 3: And it should also have you, immediately when you finished it, 56 00:03:20,373 --> 00:03:23,373 Speaker 3: kind of revisiting the band or the artist's music. And 57 00:03:23,413 --> 00:03:26,613 Speaker 3: that absolutely happened with the Hardest Line for me tells 58 00:03:26,613 --> 00:03:30,773 Speaker 3: the story of Midnight Oil for the first time. Of course, 59 00:03:30,853 --> 00:03:34,053 Speaker 3: these guys kind of hit the seventies pop rock scene 60 00:03:34,653 --> 00:03:39,493 Speaker 3: in Sydney. They were they sort of had this hard 61 00:03:39,573 --> 00:03:43,053 Speaker 3: driving sound, was socially where lyrics they very much reflected 62 00:03:43,053 --> 00:03:45,933 Speaker 3: what was happening in Australia. They were sort of young 63 00:03:46,013 --> 00:03:49,813 Speaker 3: people rebellion gainst politics and all sorts of bits and pieces. 64 00:03:50,093 --> 00:03:52,653 Speaker 3: What I love about this doco was that everyone's involved. 65 00:03:52,693 --> 00:03:55,533 Speaker 3: So the band is involved. They take us through the 66 00:03:55,613 --> 00:03:59,493 Speaker 3: story and how they started, how they developed, how albums 67 00:03:59,493 --> 00:04:02,893 Speaker 3: and their sound changed, the highs and the lows, and 68 00:04:03,373 --> 00:04:05,933 Speaker 3: the great thing about it is they're not just talking heads. 69 00:04:05,933 --> 00:04:08,333 Speaker 3: They're not people sitting in a studio talking us through 70 00:04:08,373 --> 00:04:13,173 Speaker 3: this story. They've found some incredible archive footage which accompanies 71 00:04:13,213 --> 00:04:16,493 Speaker 3: their narration, so you really kind of get a sense 72 00:04:16,653 --> 00:04:20,653 Speaker 3: of who this band was. It's entertaining and it kind 73 00:04:20,653 --> 00:04:22,253 Speaker 3: of takes you on a little bit of a ride 74 00:04:22,573 --> 00:04:25,293 Speaker 3: through a period of time as well, and it takes, 75 00:04:25,293 --> 00:04:28,133 Speaker 3: as I said, it sort of you know, we follow 76 00:04:28,213 --> 00:04:30,413 Speaker 3: the band, and we also follow the musical development, We 77 00:04:30,453 --> 00:04:33,613 Speaker 3: follow Peter Garrett in to politics, and then of course 78 00:04:33,613 --> 00:04:35,493 Speaker 3: we take a look at some of those really memorable 79 00:04:35,533 --> 00:04:38,093 Speaker 3: moments where they did protests and things, and of course 80 00:04:38,093 --> 00:04:40,493 Speaker 3: probably the two thousand Sydney Olympics will come to mind 81 00:04:40,573 --> 00:04:43,573 Speaker 3: for people when they came out wearing like black pajamas 82 00:04:43,653 --> 00:04:47,813 Speaker 3: or black sweatpants with sorry written on them, because of 83 00:04:47,853 --> 00:04:50,893 Speaker 3: course they had They were very, very outspoken about the 84 00:04:50,893 --> 00:04:54,653 Speaker 3: relationship between Australia and at the Aborigines and things like that. 85 00:04:54,773 --> 00:04:58,173 Speaker 3: So it's a wonderful doco. It's really really well done. 86 00:04:58,253 --> 00:05:00,013 Speaker 3: You don't have to be a fan in Midnight oil 87 00:05:00,173 --> 00:05:02,693 Speaker 3: As playing in the New Zealand International Film Festival. I 88 00:05:02,733 --> 00:05:04,453 Speaker 3: am crossing my fingers that will come back because I 89 00:05:04,493 --> 00:05:06,333 Speaker 3: think it's really going to appeal to a kivy audience. 90 00:05:07,493 --> 00:05:09,653 Speaker 2: That sounds so good. That sounds great. So that's the 91 00:05:09,653 --> 00:05:11,973 Speaker 2: hardest line. I'm glad that we're able to get you 92 00:05:12,053 --> 00:05:14,213 Speaker 2: on a bit of line to explain that. Francesca, let's 93 00:05:14,253 --> 00:05:21,573 Speaker 2: have another listen to the Instigators. 94 00:05:18,893 --> 00:05:19,253 Speaker 3: The mayor. 95 00:05:19,333 --> 00:05:20,493 Speaker 1: It's going to be holding our. 96 00:05:20,413 --> 00:05:24,373 Speaker 3: Party on election dag and there's going to be money there. 97 00:05:24,653 --> 00:05:26,133 Speaker 1: And like none of your bombs have ever seen. 98 00:05:27,133 --> 00:05:29,573 Speaker 3: It's your first job. I know what I'm doing. I'll 99 00:05:29,653 --> 00:05:32,613 Speaker 3: leave for a Chris change. Were're sixty. Good question. 100 00:05:32,733 --> 00:05:35,493 Speaker 2: If I'm giving instructions and they're not doing enough, just 101 00:05:35,573 --> 00:05:38,933 Speaker 2: see they have a gun. Okay. This is The Instigators, 102 00:05:39,053 --> 00:05:42,213 Speaker 2: the Highest film starring Matt Damon and Casey Affleck. It's 103 00:05:42,253 --> 00:05:43,773 Speaker 2: on Apple TV plus. Tell Us about it. 104 00:05:44,653 --> 00:05:48,493 Speaker 3: This is kind of a light, pretty low comedy host. 105 00:05:48,973 --> 00:05:51,613 Speaker 3: It's directed by Doug Lyman. This is the third project 106 00:05:51,653 --> 00:05:54,053 Speaker 3: he's done with Matt Damon. They were responsible for The 107 00:05:54,093 --> 00:05:57,773 Speaker 3: Born Identity, and the film kind of starts down a 108 00:05:57,773 --> 00:06:00,653 Speaker 3: little bit of Ocean's eleven and you think, oh, okay, cool, 109 00:06:00,653 --> 00:06:03,133 Speaker 3: where's this going to go? But this is not kind 110 00:06:03,173 --> 00:06:06,893 Speaker 3: of the slick or swanky high st film that you're 111 00:06:06,973 --> 00:06:09,173 Speaker 3: used to, and it's not kind of you know, the 112 00:06:09,213 --> 00:06:12,293 Speaker 3: Borne Identity was so sort of breathtaking with the action 113 00:06:12,413 --> 00:06:15,533 Speaker 3: that it provided us and everything. This is not that film. 114 00:06:15,613 --> 00:06:17,853 Speaker 3: This is a very This is a film about a 115 00:06:17,853 --> 00:06:19,973 Speaker 3: couple of guys played as you said, by Matt Damon 116 00:06:20,053 --> 00:06:23,213 Speaker 3: and Kasey Affleck, who really are quite useless. So this 117 00:06:23,293 --> 00:06:26,453 Speaker 3: is a heist that goes wrong. We're in Boston. There's 118 00:06:26,533 --> 00:06:32,133 Speaker 3: kind of a grip to it. And to be honest 119 00:06:32,173 --> 00:06:33,293 Speaker 3: with you, I kind of got to the end of 120 00:06:33,333 --> 00:06:36,173 Speaker 3: the film and I went almost the point of that, Yeah, 121 00:06:36,533 --> 00:06:39,293 Speaker 3: I'm not really sure. I'm not really sure. We had 122 00:06:39,333 --> 00:06:42,573 Speaker 3: a lot of fun. There's lots of great lines between 123 00:06:42,573 --> 00:06:45,173 Speaker 3: the two of them. They get on brilliantly. The performance 124 00:06:45,213 --> 00:06:49,893 Speaker 3: of the Fabulous It's packed with great cabinos and performances 125 00:06:49,933 --> 00:06:51,733 Speaker 3: by all sorts of people, but at the end of 126 00:06:51,773 --> 00:06:54,013 Speaker 3: it kind of what was the point of that? And 127 00:06:54,053 --> 00:06:55,813 Speaker 3: I think the point of it was it's to have 128 00:06:55,853 --> 00:06:57,733 Speaker 3: a lot of fun and to remind us that crime 129 00:06:57,773 --> 00:07:00,853 Speaker 3: doesn't pay. I think if you settle into this film, don't, 130 00:07:00,853 --> 00:07:03,253 Speaker 3: as I say, expect it to be slick and slanky, 131 00:07:03,693 --> 00:07:06,093 Speaker 3: like we've sort of seen from these guys before. This 132 00:07:06,213 --> 00:07:08,893 Speaker 3: is this is a film where they kind of underplay it. 133 00:07:08,893 --> 00:07:11,973 Speaker 3: It's quite deadpan. Casey Afflex numble really get to me. 134 00:07:12,453 --> 00:07:14,573 Speaker 3: It's more just to kind of sit back and watch 135 00:07:14,653 --> 00:07:18,573 Speaker 3: these watchers kind of unfold. It's a bit of light entertainment. 136 00:07:18,653 --> 00:07:21,653 Speaker 2: Yeah right, Okay, cool. That's The Instigators. That's on Apple TV. 137 00:07:21,733 --> 00:07:23,773 Speaker 2: Plus The Hardest Line is the one showing in the 138 00:07:23,773 --> 00:07:25,693 Speaker 2: New Zealand International Film Festival. 139 00:07:26,173 --> 00:07:29,253 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 140 00:07:29,373 --> 00:07:32,173 Speaker 1: to News Talks ed B from nine am Saturday, or 141 00:07:32,253 --> 00:07:34,093 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.