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Speaker 3: February twenty one, Happy sixty third birthday to keyw WE

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Speaker 3: What a player also born on this date. I'm Jason

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Speaker 3: Pine Show producer Andy McDonald. We're talking sport. It has

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Speaker 3: been a challenging twelve months for netball in this country.

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Speaker 3: The Dame Noline Todou a coaching saga, the Silver Ferns

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Speaker 3: board members. What is the flow on effect to the

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Speaker 3: than they previously did. It wasn't that long ago that

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Speaker 3: Old Tooto a Susan Sawbridges standing by the chat to

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Speaker 3: how different is the landscape now for our young fee

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Speaker 3: around today Derby day a League men's derby day in

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Speaker 3: two for a chat about that AI's impact on the

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Speaker 3: coach sport Wayne Goldsmith on that this afternoon Adam Peacock.

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Speaker 3: Blaize v. Northern Brave for the Halliburton Johnston Shield. Northern

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Speaker 3: For decades in this country, if you were a young

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Speaker 3: That was the pathway, that was the culture, that was

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Speaker 4: I would say we probably are, Actually, Jason, It's true

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Speaker 3: Indeed, what do you think has driven that change?

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Speaker 3: Does greater choice strength in the overall women's sport sporting

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Speaker 3: I think Nepple New Zealand themselves would accept it's been

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Speaker 9: There good affinn to you, Jason. Yes, of course, originally

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Speaker 10: to get that sort of forced subsidized coverage. Calling for

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Speaker 10: subsidies is just something that these administrators.

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Speaker 3: Come on and do all the time.

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Speaker 11: They do it all the time. We're here to advance

432
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Speaker 11: women's sports. We want equity.

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Speaker 10: Equity is actually according to doctor Doctor Jordan Peterson an

434
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Speaker 10: evil concept and whenever you hear somebody call for it,

435
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Speaker 10: you should immediately discount what they have to say. I'm

436
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Speaker 10: all for equality being able to get access to it,

437
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Speaker 10: but equity of anything is just forced and false, and

438
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Speaker 10: it's almost silly For a.

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Speaker 3: Subsidi, I don't. I don't recall her asking for a subsidi.

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Speaker 10: She's asking for equity. She's asking for equity, which is

441
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Speaker 10: we need to be subsidized to have the same as

442
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Speaker 10: everybody else, the same as the guys.

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Speaker 11: What it is, it's almost an envy thing. They've tried

444
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Speaker 11: coverage for women's sports. As you said, netball can't even

445
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Speaker 11: pay its way commercially. They have to pay to get on.

446
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Speaker 11: It's just a false argument that's being advanced. And look,

447
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Speaker 11: I don't I admire them for batting their corner, but

448
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Speaker 11: it's a false, false argument.

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Speaker 6: They should just stick.

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Speaker 11: To their kitting, be grateful for the subsidies they get

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Speaker 11: out of Sports New Zealand, and don't.

452
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Speaker 10: Ask the guys to dilute their side of the pie.

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Speaker 10: For you, That's where I come from.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Mark, Yeah, look I have a different view, and

455
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Speaker 3: I think that's what it's all about you know, we're

456
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Speaker 3: allowed to disagree on this stuff. A lot of sports

457
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Speaker 3: have to pay to get coverage. Netball are not alone

458
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Speaker 3: in that. There are only very few who now are

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Speaker 3: paid by the broadcaster to have their sport on TV.

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Speaker 3: And it's not just it's not just female stuff. I

461
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Speaker 3: can guarantee you of that. The likes of softball, for example,

462
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Speaker 3: you know, big participation sport for men and women, has

463
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Speaker 3: to pay if it wants to have anything broadcast on television.

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Speaker 3: Other sports are in a very similar in a very

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Speaker 3: similar spot. Mark heard. I've heard the argument you've made,

466
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Speaker 3: you know, many times that it needs to pay its way.

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Speaker 3: You know, it doesn't get the bums on seats, it

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Speaker 3: doesn't get the eyeballs. I don't think Susan was in

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Speaker 3: any way asking for a subsidy, as you put it,

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Speaker 3: ask for you know, a leg up. I think those

471
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Speaker 3: days are gone. Those days are gone. And anyone who

472
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Speaker 3: was at the Rugby World Cup final in twenty twenty

473
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Speaker 3: two when the Black Ferns beat England, you know any

474
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Speaker 3: doubt was removed about whether people want to turn up

475
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Speaker 3: and watch it. The Women's World Cup here the FIFA

476
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Speaker 3: World Cup in twenty twenty three, huge crowds. Huge crowds

477
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Speaker 3: turned up to watch that. The Matilda's across the Tasman

478
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Speaker 3: the women's football team over there have sold out a

479
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Speaker 3: dozen games in a row over there. Their male counterparts,

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Speaker 3: the soccer us haven't. These are examples. I think the

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Speaker 3: problem I strike with a call like yours, Mark is

482
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Speaker 3: that it look bet your corner. You're dead right at

483
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Speaker 3: your corner. If you like watching men's sport, watch men's sport. Absolutely,

484
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Speaker 3: No one's going to tell you can't or that you

485
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Speaker 3: have to watch women's sport But it's the it's the

486
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Speaker 3: underlying negativity that has aimed towards it that I have

487
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Speaker 3: a bit of an issue with. It's almost as though,

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Speaker 3: you know, there's a there's as an underlying snarkiness about it,

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Speaker 3: as if say, well, why would I watch that? Why

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Speaker 3: would I watch that? No one's asking you, no one,

491
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Speaker 3: no one's telling you you have to. They're asking you

492
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Speaker 3: to consider it as an option. You don't have to

493
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Speaker 3: do it, you don't have to watch it if you

494
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Speaker 3: don't want to. No one is asking, well or sorry,

495
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Speaker 3: demanding that you watch sport at all. But I think

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Speaker 3: back to some of the most compelling sports viewing of

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Speaker 3: the last several years, and at the heart of it

498
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Speaker 3: have been our top female sports people. Look at what

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Speaker 3: Zoe Sadowski Sinnate has just done another two medals at

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Speaker 3: the at the Winter Olympics for US. Our most successful

501
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Speaker 3: Olympian ever, Dame Lisa Carrington continues to dominate. Like again,

502
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Speaker 3: I don't I don't feel like I need to sort

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Speaker 3: of bat for women's sport here the proof is in

504
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Speaker 3: the pudding in terms of people who are watching and engaging.

505
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Speaker 3: Susan talked about media coverage. Those are stats that women

506
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Speaker 3: in sport old Piroa have access to, which you know

507
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Speaker 3: they use, I guess as a as a platform to

508
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Speaker 3: try and you know it say okay, we've got this much.

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Speaker 3: Now where can we go next?

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Speaker 12: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty josh, hello.

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Speaker 13: Mate, Hey morning, good morning, Hey, just put the nipple

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Speaker 13: and well sport in general, A isn't the participation rates

514
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Speaker 13: of all sports come down a bit? And perhaps that's

515
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Speaker 13: more of an economic thing more than a willingness to

516
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Speaker 13: want to participate.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, great point, great point.

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Speaker 14: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: And just with the popularity of basketball, is basketball taking over?

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Speaker 13: Like I know in comparison to rugby, the basketball numbers

521
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Speaker 13: are growing. It's the same thing happening with netball, perhaps

522
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Speaker 13: as the female basketball getting a bit more traction.

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Speaker 3: Perhaps Yeah, yeah, well I can tell you that basketball, yeah,

524
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Speaker 3: across both genders is absolutely getting traction. My son played

525
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Speaker 3: basketball in the last three years of secondary school and

526
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Speaker 3: I tend up on a Friday night here in Wellington,

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Speaker 3: and my goodness, me, mate, the number of players and

528
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Speaker 3: in particular, yeah, there were as many as many girls

529
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Speaker 3: playing it as boys, you know, so many. But I

530
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Speaker 3: think what they what they're doing, and this is quite

531
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Speaker 3: clever because they recognized the environment they're in, is they

532
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Speaker 3: play it on a Friday night, so you can play

533
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Speaker 3: your basketball Friday night and then still have your Saturday

534
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Speaker 3: for your netball or your rugby or whatever it might be.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, good, no conflicts of times and things like that.

536
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Speaker 13: But yeah, that's Mikey. So that like, it's always been

537
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Speaker 13: a struggle for families to you know, get enough together

538
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Speaker 13: if you've got three kids, and to get enough cash

539
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Speaker 13: together to have extra activities and things. But right now

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Speaker 13: I'd suspect that, yeah, there's a lot of people sort

541
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Speaker 13: of struggling and it's really hard Like, if you've got

542
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Speaker 13: three kids you want them to do things, they all

543
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Speaker 13: want to do three things each, and it's you know,

544
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Speaker 13: it's a bit of a juggle at the moment.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The other thing is, I guess in those situations, Josh

547
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Speaker 3: as you kind of gravitate towards the sports which are

548
00:30:33,747 --> 00:30:36,227
Speaker 3: a little bit more cost effective. Like a nipple, you

549
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Speaker 3: see a pair of shoes. Really, that's all you need, right,

550
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Speaker 3: But if you if your daughter's keen on a questrian,

551
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Speaker 3: that's a very different story, isn't it. If you need

552
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Speaker 3: to buy buy a horse or something like that, or

553
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Speaker 3: expensive for snowsport or whatever it might be.

554
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Speaker 13: You want them to go professional as soon as possible,

555
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Speaker 13: get that sponsorship sorted.

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Speaker 3: Out, that's right, exactly encourage them. And I've heard a

557
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Speaker 3: lot of people say, I want my kids to play

558
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Speaker 3: golf so that they could look after me in my retirement.

559
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Speaker 13: Yeah, that sounds like a good retirement plan, actually, you

560
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Speaker 13: just yeah, wow, Well, look, if we all had infinite resources,

561
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Speaker 13: would all be you know, Olympic middleists, wouldn't we? But

562
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Speaker 13: I guess I don't know, how do you say, how

563
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Speaker 13: do you measure? You know, how do you make sure

564
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Speaker 13: the kids that that are actually talented get the resources

565
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Speaker 13: to continue the participation. I guess I mean.

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Speaker 3: A very good question, Josh, very good question. And I

567
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Speaker 3: think you know the participation part of that is a

568
00:31:32,747 --> 00:31:35,707
Speaker 3: great point. You know, often if I use a sport

569
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Speaker 3: that I'm pretty close to, and that's football, often, you know,

570
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Speaker 3: the kids who go to the academies are the ones

571
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Speaker 3: whose parents can afford to send them to the academies,

572
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Speaker 3: because it costs money to go to a football academy.

573
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Speaker 3: And yet there are countless talented players, not just in football,

574
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Speaker 3: but in many sports who simply don't have access for

575
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Speaker 3: financial reasons. Sometimes their parents can't afford to buy them

576
00:32:05,827 --> 00:32:08,507
Speaker 3: a pair of boo I said before netbules, you know,

577
00:32:08,947 --> 00:32:11,507
Speaker 3: quite accessible. All you needs a pair of shoes. Sometimes

578
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Speaker 3: a pair of shoes isn't accessible if you've got three

579
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Speaker 3: or four kids who all want to play a bunch

580
00:32:16,987 --> 00:32:19,707
Speaker 3: of stuff, you know, the fees and the and the

581
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Speaker 3: gear and transporting them around and all the bits and

582
00:32:23,867 --> 00:32:26,107
Speaker 3: pieces that go with it. You know, for many of

583
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Speaker 3: us this sounds silly, but you know, putting in ten

584
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Speaker 3: dollars at the end of the year for a gift

585
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Speaker 3: for your coach, you know in these times sometimes these

586
00:32:36,827 --> 00:32:42,627
Speaker 3: things are beyond the reach of some families, and more

587
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Speaker 3: and more families are finding themselves in this situation. We're

588
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Speaker 3: digressing a little bit, Alison, with you after this eighteen

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Speaker 3: It's called it to one, Allison, thank you for old

596
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Speaker 3: and good afternoon.

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Speaker 15: It's going to say your females do so one. We

598
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Speaker 15: look just look at the Halburger Wars that came up

599
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Speaker 15: there and the number of females that came through on that,

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Speaker 15: like the back friends and Daniel act agents in the

601
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Speaker 15: running and as you say, Lydia Co and the golf.

602
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Speaker 15: We do so well in all sports, cycling, particularly all

603
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Speaker 15: these good cypress. We've got the Maxwell girl and Elise Andrews.

604
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Speaker 15: I think we do well in all sports now actually

605
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Speaker 15: better I'll say better than the males. I'll say that

606
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Speaker 15: now probably some of that well, well.

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Speaker 3: They at the elite level. Alison, You've picked out some

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Speaker 3: great examples there, Yes, I mean, and they've given us

609
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Speaker 3: some wonderful moments. And what I think what some people

610
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Speaker 3: do is that they and this is not just an

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Speaker 3: with relation to this issue, but in order to make

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Speaker 3: their own points, it feels as though they need to

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Speaker 3: in some way denigrate the those who hold a different

614
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Speaker 3: opinion or the other side of what they believe.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, and then this new coach and I'm mentorest in

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Speaker 15: the soccer at already, but this new coach has brought

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Speaker 15: the things my way of thinking, and I'm quite liking this.

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Speaker 15: The woman's phoenix are doing so well now, you see,

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Speaker 15: so you can change your mind about sport. Two people watching.

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Speaker 15: I've gone off net but a bit now, probably a

621
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Speaker 15: little bit because of all this. I think the start

622
00:34:20,787 --> 00:34:23,027
Speaker 15: that went wrong in the beginning when it all started up,

623
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Speaker 15: the lady in charge there was it was missing an action.

624
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Speaker 15: She wasn't there and nobody was there to answer the

625
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Speaker 15: questions in the beginning, and that threw it all into disarray.

626
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Speaker 15: And the very started where I say it all went

627
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Speaker 15: wrong in the beginning of that one. You know. So

628
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Speaker 15: then she's pulled out now, But why didn't you put

629
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Speaker 15: out at the beginning and get somebody new come in

630
00:34:41,867 --> 00:34:44,987
Speaker 15: there and it would have been got the fresh start

631
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Speaker 15: earlier on rather than carrying on some months. You know,

632
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Speaker 15: wasted time, wasn't it?

633
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Speaker 8: Really?

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Speaker 3: It was about allisudden. Yes, it was an unfortunate chapter.

635
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Speaker 3: I think of Netbull looked back on the year that

636
00:34:54,667 --> 00:34:57,827
Speaker 3: they've had and most of those who were involved actually

637
00:34:57,907 --> 00:35:02,707
Speaker 3: have now departed. But yeah, I am reasonably confident that

638
00:35:02,787 --> 00:35:04,827
Speaker 3: they will not look back on twenty twenty five with

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Speaker 3: any great scene of positivity at all. Good to chat

640
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Speaker 3: to you, Ellison, Thank you for calling in quick check

641
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Speaker 3: on the cricket. Speaking of women's sport, the Halliburt and

642
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Speaker 3: Johnston Shield Grand Final. This is our domestic fifty over competition.

643
00:35:18,667 --> 00:35:21,187
Speaker 3: Northern District's one forty nine for eight, so they're starting

644
00:35:21,227 --> 00:35:23,947
Speaker 3: to mount a bit of a case against Wellington one

645
00:35:24,027 --> 00:35:26,987
Speaker 3: forty nine for eight. They are through thirty fauna bit

646
00:35:27,427 --> 00:35:32,147
Speaker 3: of the fifty overs, John gid I mate, hey.

647
00:35:32,027 --> 00:35:34,387
Speaker 5: Tony here, you know what it's reviewed of coming up

648
00:35:34,427 --> 00:35:39,467
Speaker 5: with the netball? Can you find those when the review

649
00:35:39,547 --> 00:35:43,227
Speaker 5: is done? If there's no for those that determine the

650
00:35:43,307 --> 00:35:45,467
Speaker 5: quest and the two other people that quit, are they

651
00:35:45,507 --> 00:35:47,867
Speaker 5: going to be penalized for the butchering, they're not leave

652
00:35:47,907 --> 00:35:51,227
Speaker 5: the name and the organization and should they be penalized financially?

653
00:35:53,427 --> 00:35:56,547
Speaker 3: I think what happened? Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't

654
00:35:56,547 --> 00:35:59,787
Speaker 3: think that would happen. John, Well, I can't see that

655
00:35:59,827 --> 00:36:01,867
Speaker 3: any any board member or anybody would be asked to

656
00:36:01,907 --> 00:36:04,827
Speaker 3: pay recompense to to somebody in a situation like this.

657
00:36:04,987 --> 00:36:06,747
Speaker 3: I know what you're driving at, but I don't think

658
00:36:06,747 --> 00:36:07,227
Speaker 3: it'll happen.

659
00:36:08,027 --> 00:36:09,667
Speaker 5: So why should there be load to ride off or

660
00:36:09,707 --> 00:36:13,547
Speaker 5: anybody in the sunset and after what they've done.

661
00:36:15,187 --> 00:36:18,827
Speaker 3: Well, it wouldn't be the first time. John, See.

662
00:36:20,347 --> 00:36:23,587
Speaker 5: Oh and you and you like, why should we lowing

663
00:36:23,627 --> 00:36:25,227
Speaker 5: and your kidsens are an organization like that?

664
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Speaker 3: Yeah? No, I look no, I'm not saying it's right

665
00:36:28,267 --> 00:36:30,747
Speaker 3: at all. And and when you're in a position like that,

666
00:36:30,787 --> 00:36:34,107
Speaker 3: you do need to be held to account. And I

667
00:36:34,107 --> 00:36:36,827
Speaker 3: guess no, Well, I guess when you when you walk

668
00:36:36,867 --> 00:36:41,147
Speaker 3: away from something, then it ceases to be something that

669
00:36:41,187 --> 00:36:43,907
Speaker 3: you can be held accountable for. So I guess of

670
00:36:43,987 --> 00:36:45,387
Speaker 3: what you can do is look back. I think history

671
00:36:45,387 --> 00:36:48,147
Speaker 3: will judge. History will judge you know what what has

672
00:36:48,147 --> 00:36:53,507
Speaker 3: happened in this sport in the last year? Okay, good

673
00:36:53,507 --> 00:36:56,947
Speaker 3: on your John good to chat yep. Marsus Pinely got

674
00:36:56,987 --> 00:36:58,827
Speaker 3: three daughters. They all play netball, but two of them

675
00:36:58,827 --> 00:37:00,787
Speaker 3: are now moving in the direction of sevens thanks to

676
00:37:00,787 --> 00:37:04,187
Speaker 3: some players called Porsche and Georgia and Caitlin just to

677
00:37:04,267 --> 00:37:06,187
Speaker 3: name a few. But they turned up to their club

678
00:37:06,227 --> 00:37:10,107
Speaker 3: and high school, so they're now being converted. Do the

679
00:37:10,147 --> 00:37:11,947
Speaker 3: silver Ferns do that, I think they do much. I

680
00:37:12,507 --> 00:37:17,947
Speaker 3: think most sports have that community outreach kind of segment

681
00:37:18,187 --> 00:37:21,227
Speaker 3: to what they do. But I you know, as I

682
00:37:21,227 --> 00:37:24,707
Speaker 3: said at the top, there are simply more options now.

683
00:37:26,427 --> 00:37:29,347
Speaker 3: You know, if you were a promising young female sports

684
00:37:29,387 --> 00:37:35,827
Speaker 3: person twenty thirty years ago, there were far fewer pathways

685
00:37:35,907 --> 00:37:39,747
Speaker 3: open to you than there are now. There are professional

686
00:37:39,747 --> 00:37:45,867
Speaker 3: pathways that are far more lucrative in football and basketball

687
00:37:46,627 --> 00:37:50,427
Speaker 3: and combat sports and snow sports in terms of the

688
00:37:50,467 --> 00:37:54,307
Speaker 3: money you can earn through competing, the prize money, and

689
00:37:54,347 --> 00:37:57,347
Speaker 3: the living you can earn, plus also the sponsorship dollars

690
00:37:57,347 --> 00:38:00,267
Speaker 3: that are available to you by being involved in those

691
00:38:00,307 --> 00:38:04,707
Speaker 3: sports at a high level. That those pathways simply didn't exist,

692
00:38:05,187 --> 00:38:06,947
Speaker 3: I know, and I've had a pointed out to me,

693
00:38:06,987 --> 00:38:10,427
Speaker 3: there were other sports that you know, females could play, Yes,

694
00:38:10,987 --> 00:38:13,187
Speaker 3: yet they've always been able to play hockey, and they've

695
00:38:13,187 --> 00:38:16,307
Speaker 3: always been able to play these other sports. But the pathways,

696
00:38:16,787 --> 00:38:19,267
Speaker 3: and it's you as I'm saying this, it's not just

697
00:38:19,307 --> 00:38:23,027
Speaker 3: a female thing. The pathways available to our young men

698
00:38:23,107 --> 00:38:27,907
Speaker 3: now are far far greater. If we talk about some

699
00:38:27,987 --> 00:38:31,387
Speaker 3: of the sports I just mentioned there and others. You know,

700
00:38:31,547 --> 00:38:35,547
Speaker 3: there were very very few young Kiwi football is playing

701
00:38:35,587 --> 00:38:41,427
Speaker 3: overseas twenty thirty years ago. Now there are dozens and

702
00:38:41,667 --> 00:38:46,827
Speaker 3: dozens of our men and women football is playing in

703
00:38:46,907 --> 00:38:52,547
Speaker 3: overseas leagues, earning a living a professional football player. That

704
00:38:52,667 --> 00:38:56,707
Speaker 3: simply didn't exist as a pathway not that long ago.

705
00:38:56,907 --> 00:38:58,147
Speaker 3: Nine to one News Talk said.

706
00:38:57,947 --> 00:39:03,147
Speaker 1: Be analyzing the plays and getting the inside weekend sport

707
00:39:03,467 --> 00:39:04,627
Speaker 1: with Jason Vine.

708
00:39:04,827 --> 00:39:07,907
Speaker 3: News Talks V News Talks are being Weekends Sport Final.

709
00:39:07,907 --> 00:39:09,627
Speaker 3: A few texts to mop up here, and I do

710
00:39:10,307 --> 00:39:12,867
Speaker 3: want to thank you for all of the text messages

711
00:39:12,947 --> 00:39:15,707
Speaker 3: and messages of all kinds that you send, or the

712
00:39:15,707 --> 00:39:18,467
Speaker 3: phone calls that you make. As I've often said, we

713
00:39:18,507 --> 00:39:19,947
Speaker 3: don't get the chance to read them all out, but

714
00:39:19,987 --> 00:39:22,827
Speaker 3: we do read them all and you know there are

715
00:39:22,907 --> 00:39:27,627
Speaker 3: varying views. I didn't actually begin this hour wanting it

716
00:39:27,667 --> 00:39:32,747
Speaker 3: to become I guess, a discussion about the place of

717
00:39:32,787 --> 00:39:35,267
Speaker 3: women's sport in our sporting landscape, but it seems to

718
00:39:35,267 --> 00:39:37,387
Speaker 3: have become that in the eyes of a few people.

719
00:39:37,787 --> 00:39:40,027
Speaker 3: I was just more curious, I guess, and I haven't

720
00:39:40,027 --> 00:39:42,347
Speaker 3: really had a lot of clarity about this about whether

721
00:39:42,387 --> 00:39:45,227
Speaker 3: those at grassroots level and the game of netball had

722
00:39:45,267 --> 00:39:48,467
Speaker 3: been turned off by what had happened at the top

723
00:39:48,627 --> 00:39:52,187
Speaker 3: level of their sport. And Andy's found some figures here

724
00:39:52,227 --> 00:39:56,627
Speaker 3: which would suggest that that hasn't happened community level netball

725
00:39:56,707 --> 00:40:00,587
Speaker 3: over one hundred and forty nine thousand registered netball players

726
00:40:00,627 --> 00:40:03,907
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty five. That was a three percent overall

727
00:40:03,987 --> 00:40:10,267
Speaker 3: increase and twelve percent increase in youth netball, and still

728
00:40:10,307 --> 00:40:14,667
Speaker 3: the number one sport played at secondary school. So it

729
00:40:14,667 --> 00:40:18,307
Speaker 3: would appear as though netball at the moment is still

730
00:40:19,827 --> 00:40:24,827
Speaker 3: fairly strong at grassroots and community level. I talked to

731
00:40:25,107 --> 00:40:30,467
Speaker 3: Susan before Sawbridge from Women in Sport Arteta before and

732
00:40:32,627 --> 00:40:34,707
Speaker 3: asked to crystal ball gaze a little bit and if

733
00:40:34,707 --> 00:40:36,747
Speaker 3: we can do that as well. I just wonder whether

734
00:40:37,227 --> 00:40:41,027
Speaker 3: down the track the impact of twenty twenty five might

735
00:40:41,067 --> 00:40:43,907
Speaker 3: be felt. I don't know, it may not it may

736
00:40:43,907 --> 00:40:46,547
Speaker 3: not have often said about football. You know, there's all

737
00:40:46,587 --> 00:40:48,947
Speaker 3: sorts of stuff going on at the very high levels

738
00:40:49,187 --> 00:40:55,107
Speaker 3: at FIFA that people absolutely despise and don't agree with,

739
00:40:55,387 --> 00:40:58,427
Speaker 3: but the game of football seems to be surviving at

740
00:40:58,467 --> 00:41:01,987
Speaker 3: its lower levels. So maybe what happens in the corridors

741
00:41:01,987 --> 00:41:05,867
Speaker 3: of power just happens in the corridors of power, and

742
00:41:05,907 --> 00:41:09,507
Speaker 3: we play and follow the sports that we love for

743
00:41:09,587 --> 00:41:15,627
Speaker 3: that reason, because we love them despite what is being

744
00:41:15,707 --> 00:41:20,347
Speaker 3: done at the top end of sport in sometimes less

745
00:41:20,347 --> 00:41:23,467
Speaker 3: than salubrious fashion. As I say, thank you for all

746
00:41:23,507 --> 00:41:26,747
Speaker 3: your calls and your messages. Speaking of football the derby,

747
00:41:26,987 --> 00:41:29,427
Speaker 3: we'll get inside the Auckland FC and Phoenix camps after one.

748
00:41:30,787 --> 00:41:33,987
Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on

749
00:41:34,307 --> 00:41:38,347
Speaker 1: a head off the field, you've got to store. It's

750
00:41:38,387 --> 00:41:41,547
Speaker 1: all on Weekend Sport with Jason Vine on your home

751
00:41:41,587 --> 00:41:44,107
Speaker 1: of Sport News talks me.

752
00:41:46,107 --> 00:41:48,267
Speaker 3: Welcome into Weekend Sport, Welcome back to Weekend Sport on

753
00:41:48,387 --> 00:41:52,987
Speaker 3: Jason Pine with any McDonald here till three Janus on text. Jason,

754
00:41:53,027 --> 00:41:54,867
Speaker 3: were you at the stadium last night? Do you know

755
00:41:55,907 --> 00:41:58,627
Speaker 3: why Brett Cameron and William Havilly were carried off the

756
00:41:58,627 --> 00:42:04,627
Speaker 3: field rather than using the trolley the motorized stretcher. Thanks Jennis.

757
00:42:05,787 --> 00:42:08,267
Speaker 3: I don't know for sure, Janus, but I get the

758
00:42:08,307 --> 00:42:11,747
Speaker 3: feeling it was because they wanted to keep them as

759
00:42:11,787 --> 00:42:15,387
Speaker 3: stable as possible, and I wonder whether being on the

760
00:42:15,427 --> 00:42:20,587
Speaker 3: motorized trolley would have been I guess it would have

761
00:42:20,587 --> 00:42:23,067
Speaker 3: been harder to keep them stable. Brett Cameron and William

762
00:42:23,067 --> 00:42:25,467
Speaker 3: Harvey both had to leave the field last night with

763
00:42:25,507 --> 00:42:28,387
Speaker 3: what looked to be serious injuries. Cameron's was a knee

764
00:42:29,027 --> 00:42:31,587
Speaker 3: William Harvey looked like a neck injury or even a

765
00:42:31,587 --> 00:42:34,907
Speaker 3: concussion of some sort. So I think the reason why

766
00:42:34,987 --> 00:42:39,267
Speaker 3: they were carried off on your traditional stretcher with six

767
00:42:39,787 --> 00:42:42,027
Speaker 3: stretcher bearers was to try and keep them as stable

768
00:42:42,027 --> 00:42:44,027
Speaker 3: as possible. That's the only thing I can think of.

769
00:42:44,027 --> 00:42:45,627
Speaker 3: I guess when you're on that trolley, it maybe goes

770
00:42:45,667 --> 00:42:47,947
Speaker 3: over a few bumps and doesn't keep you a stable

771
00:42:48,627 --> 00:42:53,187
Speaker 3: We're still waiting on more news from both of those players.

772
00:42:53,307 --> 00:42:55,507
Speaker 3: The Hurricanes have issued a statement to say Brett Cameron's

773
00:42:55,547 --> 00:42:58,587
Speaker 3: knee injury is serious and we don't talk rugby after two,

774
00:42:58,627 --> 00:43:00,387
Speaker 3: but man, this is just so tragic for the guy.

775
00:43:00,507 --> 00:43:05,467
Speaker 3: He's only just got back. He's a tremendous, tremendous guy,

776
00:43:05,547 --> 00:43:08,267
Speaker 3: Brett Cameron and has worked so hard to get back

777
00:43:08,627 --> 00:43:12,307
Speaker 3: from a couple of serious injuries. Had an amazing pre

778
00:43:12,427 --> 00:43:15,267
Speaker 3: season from all reports, was ready to run the Hurricanes

779
00:43:15,307 --> 00:43:17,827
Speaker 3: around this year in the number ten jersey, and twenty

780
00:43:17,907 --> 00:43:21,067
Speaker 3: five minutes into the first game he suffers another injury.

781
00:43:21,187 --> 00:43:25,187
Speaker 3: Just absolutely devastating for him and William Harvelli. He came

782
00:43:25,227 --> 00:43:27,067
Speaker 3: on off the bench last night from moll Wana and

783
00:43:27,147 --> 00:43:29,907
Speaker 3: actually added a real spark. I thought he looked really good,

784
00:43:29,907 --> 00:43:32,667
Speaker 3: but then ran into one of his own players. It

785
00:43:32,707 --> 00:43:36,187
Speaker 3: was a very unusual situation where they came together just

786
00:43:36,227 --> 00:43:38,187
Speaker 3: as heavily was looking to kick from his own twenty two.

787
00:43:38,627 --> 00:43:41,827
Speaker 3: He shaped a kick and then didn't and then ran

788
00:43:41,907 --> 00:43:45,827
Speaker 3: into inadvertently obviously one of his own players and went

789
00:43:45,867 --> 00:43:48,387
Speaker 3: down with a heck of a thud. So we're hoping

790
00:43:48,387 --> 00:43:50,387
Speaker 3: for the best for him as well as I say,

791
00:43:50,387 --> 00:43:52,467
Speaker 3: more rugby for you or rug before you after two,

792
00:43:52,667 --> 00:43:54,387
Speaker 3: Josh Mooby, you've got a hat trick for the Hurricanes

793
00:43:54,427 --> 00:43:56,347
Speaker 3: last night and to join us to chat about that,

794
00:43:56,387 --> 00:43:58,427
Speaker 3: don't forget tonight under the roof and d'neda on gold

795
00:43:58,427 --> 00:44:02,227
Speaker 3: Sport and iHeartRadio. The Highlanders up against the Chiefs, two

796
00:44:02,307 --> 00:44:04,907
Speaker 3: sides who won their opening round matches, going head to head.

797
00:44:05,147 --> 00:44:07,307
Speaker 3: One of the full call for you from just after

798
00:44:07,587 --> 00:44:13,267
Speaker 3: seven o'clock tonight. Let's move our attention to football though

799
00:44:13,347 --> 00:44:17,067
Speaker 3: it is a league derby day in the capital, Wellington

800
00:44:17,067 --> 00:44:20,947
Speaker 3: Phoenix against Auckland f C five o'clock this afternoon at

801
00:44:21,027 --> 00:44:24,307
Speaker 3: sky Stadium. A big part of Auckland f c's season,

802
00:44:24,707 --> 00:44:27,027
Speaker 3: and in fact a big part of their two seasons,

803
00:44:27,067 --> 00:44:34,547
Speaker 3: has been Belgian midfielder Louis va Strata Rogerson outside my

804
00:44:36,027 --> 00:44:37,347
Speaker 3: against the post.

805
00:44:39,507 --> 00:44:43,827
Speaker 16: Glueverstrata a yellow Canda minute ago.

806
00:44:44,867 --> 00:44:48,747
Speaker 3: I've go scorn now Louisa Strata to.

807
00:44:48,787 --> 00:44:50,067
Speaker 12: The delight of the part.

808
00:44:50,187 --> 00:44:53,907
Speaker 3: Yeah, Louisverstrada has been so good for the team across

809
00:44:53,947 --> 00:44:56,547
Speaker 3: there well I guess one and a half seasons up

810
00:44:56,627 --> 00:45:00,707
Speaker 3: until now. He has played every minute of this season

811
00:45:00,827 --> 00:45:02,867
Speaker 3: for Auckland FC and said to be a big part

812
00:45:02,907 --> 00:45:06,307
Speaker 3: of their quest to win a sixth straight derby the

813
00:45:06,347 --> 00:45:08,587
Speaker 3: this afternoon. I spoke to Louis Vistrada during the week

814
00:45:08,867 --> 00:45:11,107
Speaker 3: ask them first of all about the main takeaways from

815
00:45:11,107 --> 00:45:14,027
Speaker 3: the one to one draw with Sydney FC. When the

816
00:45:14,027 --> 00:45:17,067
Speaker 3: two teams met in a catch up match on Tuesday

817
00:45:17,187 --> 00:45:18,307
Speaker 3: night in Sydney.

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00:45:18,827 --> 00:45:22,467
Speaker 17: My first impression of the game was obviously it was

819
00:45:22,467 --> 00:45:26,027
Speaker 17: a difficult trip. We didn't play our best game, but

820
00:45:26,067 --> 00:45:28,907
Speaker 17: in the end a point there was was okay. Obviously

821
00:45:28,947 --> 00:45:31,027
Speaker 17: we wanted to have the three points, but if you

822
00:45:31,067 --> 00:45:33,027
Speaker 17: look back on the game, they had I think a

823
00:45:33,027 --> 00:45:35,747
Speaker 17: bit more dominance in the game, but chances wise it

824
00:45:35,867 --> 00:45:38,747
Speaker 17: was a bit even so in the end, I think

825
00:45:39,227 --> 00:45:39,827
Speaker 17: draw us fair.

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00:45:40,307 --> 00:45:43,507
Speaker 3: It's been a mixed couple of months for Auckland FC.

827
00:45:43,707 --> 00:45:47,267
Speaker 3: How do you feel you're placed with nine regular season

828
00:45:47,347 --> 00:45:48,067
Speaker 3: games left.

829
00:45:49,707 --> 00:45:51,827
Speaker 17: I think we are still still in the running to

830
00:45:51,867 --> 00:45:56,107
Speaker 17: win the premiership, which is our goal. Obviously there was

831
00:45:56,147 --> 00:45:59,987
Speaker 17: a period where we didn't win as much these six games,

832
00:46:00,787 --> 00:46:02,867
Speaker 17: but I felt like we deserved more than we got,

833
00:46:02,907 --> 00:46:05,227
Speaker 17: so I think if we keep doing what we're doing,

834
00:46:05,307 --> 00:46:09,787
Speaker 17: eventually the point will come. I think we are we

835
00:46:09,827 --> 00:46:11,827
Speaker 17: are doing well and we just we need to win

836
00:46:11,907 --> 00:46:15,147
Speaker 17: this Saturday to start off run again and hopefully win

837
00:46:15,187 --> 00:46:16,107
Speaker 17: a few games in a row.

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00:46:16,427 --> 00:46:18,827
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, keep doing what you're doing. It's not as

839
00:46:18,827 --> 00:46:20,947
Speaker 3: though the time is playing badly. You don't feel as

840
00:46:20,947 --> 00:46:24,027
Speaker 3: though you're playing badly at all, it's just perhaps small

841
00:46:24,067 --> 00:46:26,667
Speaker 3: moments and games aren't going quite the way that you

842
00:46:26,667 --> 00:46:27,307
Speaker 3: would hope.

843
00:46:27,867 --> 00:46:30,027
Speaker 18: Yeah, that's that's actually how I would put it as well.

844
00:46:30,147 --> 00:46:32,507
Speaker 17: I feel if you're compared to last season, I think

845
00:46:32,547 --> 00:46:35,307
Speaker 17: we are more dominant on the ball. We also we

846
00:46:35,347 --> 00:46:38,387
Speaker 17: don't can see them any chances, but for some reason,

847
00:46:40,107 --> 00:46:43,907
Speaker 17: the chances we get we can see them, they become

848
00:46:43,947 --> 00:46:47,387
Speaker 17: goals against. And we don't take our chances enough. I

849
00:46:47,387 --> 00:46:50,667
Speaker 17: would say, but this comes out. This comes all down

850
00:46:50,707 --> 00:46:53,587
Speaker 17: to details, like you said, in games, and I think

851
00:46:53,627 --> 00:46:56,387
Speaker 17: if we get the details right, the points will follow.

852
00:46:57,027 --> 00:47:00,947
Speaker 3: The matches against Wellington feel a bit different from from

853
00:47:00,987 --> 00:47:03,787
Speaker 3: other I League games as you prepare for another derby.

854
00:47:05,067 --> 00:47:07,667
Speaker 17: Always it's always a bit different because you obviously always

855
00:47:07,667 --> 00:47:11,027
Speaker 17: play for the fans, but derby's are are so important

856
00:47:11,067 --> 00:47:13,947
Speaker 17: for the fans and for for everyone involved in the club.

857
00:47:14,027 --> 00:47:17,827
Speaker 17: So we uh you always you always do something extra

858
00:47:18,667 --> 00:47:21,507
Speaker 17: when there is a derby coming. So we are all

859
00:47:21,547 --> 00:47:22,947
Speaker 17: looking forward to playing this game.

860
00:47:23,427 --> 00:47:26,507
Speaker 3: So and in the two derby so far this season,

861
00:47:26,747 --> 00:47:29,627
Speaker 3: you've scored early, very early, in Wellington after about thirty

862
00:47:29,667 --> 00:47:32,347
Speaker 3: seconds and in lockie Brook with an early goal in

863
00:47:32,387 --> 00:47:35,787
Speaker 3: the second derby, how important and in such a you know,

864
00:47:35,867 --> 00:47:38,627
Speaker 3: a big game like this is a fast start.

865
00:47:40,027 --> 00:47:42,947
Speaker 17: I think you you cannot underestimate the blow you give

866
00:47:43,027 --> 00:47:45,427
Speaker 17: to a team if you if you start like this

867
00:47:45,507 --> 00:47:47,867
Speaker 17: straight away, I think you put them on the back

868
00:47:47,867 --> 00:47:49,147
Speaker 17: foot and you're on the front foot.

869
00:47:50,427 --> 00:47:52,787
Speaker 18: And Derby's this is this is incredibly important.

870
00:47:52,787 --> 00:47:55,507
Speaker 17: So we're going to try to score again quickly and

871
00:47:55,547 --> 00:47:58,387
Speaker 17: then and and started a game with a lot of

872
00:47:58,427 --> 00:48:00,867
Speaker 17: aggression and and for forward intents.

873
00:48:01,987 --> 00:48:04,987
Speaker 3: Sam Cosgrove is suspended for this game. He's picked up

874
00:48:05,027 --> 00:48:08,027
Speaker 3: five yellow cards, so he won't be available for this one.

875
00:48:08,067 --> 00:48:12,427
Speaker 3: How much will that change the way you play, particularly

876
00:48:12,707 --> 00:48:13,707
Speaker 3: in the attacking third.

877
00:48:14,947 --> 00:48:19,747
Speaker 17: Yeah, obviously Sam has his his his strong points where

878
00:48:19,787 --> 00:48:22,267
Speaker 17: with crosses and he is he's very good keeping the

879
00:48:22,307 --> 00:48:25,227
Speaker 17: ball and as a target striker. So obviously we're going

880
00:48:25,307 --> 00:48:28,507
Speaker 17: to change a little bit when he's not playing. But

881
00:48:28,667 --> 00:48:30,827
Speaker 17: we have we have a lot of quality in the

882
00:48:30,867 --> 00:48:33,947
Speaker 17: squad so we can we still will present a very

883
00:48:33,947 --> 00:48:35,627
Speaker 17: good squad on on Saturday.

884
00:48:36,107 --> 00:48:39,307
Speaker 3: You're on yeah, no, no, you're on. You're on four

885
00:48:39,347 --> 00:48:42,467
Speaker 3: yellows as well, and you served from memory of band

886
00:48:42,547 --> 00:48:45,427
Speaker 3: last year for picking up up five. Is it something

887
00:48:45,467 --> 00:48:47,587
Speaker 3: that plays on your mind that you know when you're

888
00:48:47,587 --> 00:48:49,027
Speaker 3: on four bookings that you've got to be a bit

889
00:48:49,067 --> 00:48:50,827
Speaker 3: more careful or can you not really do that?

890
00:48:52,387 --> 00:48:54,267
Speaker 17: I try to keep it in the back of my mind,

891
00:48:54,267 --> 00:48:55,867
Speaker 17: but in the end, it's it's a game of football.

892
00:48:55,907 --> 00:48:58,027
Speaker 17: And when when the team is in trouble and I

893
00:48:58,347 --> 00:49:00,107
Speaker 17: need to pick up a yellow cord for the team,

894
00:49:00,427 --> 00:49:02,587
Speaker 17: I will, I will, I will not hesitate, and I

895
00:49:02,627 --> 00:49:03,347
Speaker 17: will take the cart.

896
00:49:03,907 --> 00:49:07,427
Speaker 18: That's that's how it works. I just tried to risk

897
00:49:07,507 --> 00:49:08,227
Speaker 18: reward wise.

898
00:49:08,347 --> 00:49:12,107
Speaker 17: Maybe maybe do this like a tackle when it's not necessary,

899
00:49:12,347 --> 00:49:16,107
Speaker 17: maybe I won't do it, but to stop a counter attack,

900
00:49:16,147 --> 00:49:17,107
Speaker 17: I will not hesitate.

901
00:49:18,347 --> 00:49:21,227
Speaker 3: You've played every minute of the season, lowie, and you're

902
00:49:21,267 --> 00:49:24,907
Speaker 3: still running deep, deep into games. How much do you

903
00:49:24,947 --> 00:49:28,267
Speaker 3: pride yourself on that, on playing ninety plus ninety five

904
00:49:28,307 --> 00:49:31,667
Speaker 3: one hundred minutes if needed every week for your team.

905
00:49:32,267 --> 00:49:35,507
Speaker 18: Yeah. I want to play every single second this year.

906
00:49:35,627 --> 00:49:36,547
Speaker 18: That's my goal.

907
00:49:36,947 --> 00:49:41,507
Speaker 17: So yeah, I go week by weekend, game by game,

908
00:49:41,547 --> 00:49:43,987
Speaker 17: and I just I prepare my body as good as possible.

909
00:49:45,067 --> 00:49:49,067
Speaker 17: My body is also now used to do the loads

910
00:49:49,107 --> 00:49:49,827
Speaker 17: each week.

911
00:49:49,667 --> 00:49:51,147
Speaker 18: So I can do it.

912
00:49:51,147 --> 00:49:53,907
Speaker 17: I'm capable of it, and I feel actually good going

913
00:49:54,027 --> 00:49:56,307
Speaker 17: late into games and towards the end of the games,

914
00:49:56,427 --> 00:49:59,227
Speaker 17: I feel quite good, So I hope I can keep

915
00:49:59,227 --> 00:50:01,547
Speaker 17: playing full games until the end of the season.

916
00:50:02,147 --> 00:50:05,107
Speaker 3: I know you get JPS numbers. Don't your your kilometers

917
00:50:05,107 --> 00:50:06,627
Speaker 3: a track? What are you running a game as a

918
00:50:06,707 --> 00:50:07,667
Speaker 3: twelve thirteen k.

919
00:50:08,667 --> 00:50:09,427
Speaker 18: Yeah, it's always.

920
00:50:09,467 --> 00:50:11,987
Speaker 17: It's always between twelve and thirteen, depending a little bit

921
00:50:12,027 --> 00:50:14,467
Speaker 17: on the game or or the extra time and all

922
00:50:14,467 --> 00:50:18,747
Speaker 17: this stuff. So I would say my top distances are

923
00:50:18,747 --> 00:50:21,067
Speaker 17: close to thirteen or a little over thirteen, but on

924
00:50:21,147 --> 00:50:23,107
Speaker 17: average between twelve and thirteen.

925
00:50:23,627 --> 00:50:25,547
Speaker 3: When you so, when you come off, how like have

926
00:50:25,627 --> 00:50:28,467
Speaker 3: you have you had to guess your kilometers before you

927
00:50:28,507 --> 00:50:30,907
Speaker 3: saw the actual number? Do you think you get pretty

928
00:50:30,947 --> 00:50:32,547
Speaker 3: close to you? Do you know when you've had a

929
00:50:32,987 --> 00:50:35,147
Speaker 3: game that's close to thirteen kilometers for example?

930
00:50:35,907 --> 00:50:36,507
Speaker 18: That's that's no.

931
00:50:37,227 --> 00:50:39,827
Speaker 17: Strangely enough, sometimes I feel when I feel more tired,

932
00:50:39,907 --> 00:50:44,787
Speaker 17: I've run less, So the feeling has I cannot I

933
00:50:44,827 --> 00:50:46,067
Speaker 17: cannot judge by my feeling.

934
00:50:46,187 --> 00:50:50,307
Speaker 18: So no, it's it's it's hard to predict.

935
00:50:50,307 --> 00:50:52,667
Speaker 17: Sometimes when we have when we have the ball and

936
00:50:52,707 --> 00:50:55,107
Speaker 17: we we have a lot of possession, it feels like

937
00:50:55,147 --> 00:50:56,947
Speaker 17: you run less, but you actually run more.

938
00:50:56,987 --> 00:50:58,427
Speaker 18: So it's it's a little bit.

939
00:50:58,547 --> 00:51:01,427
Speaker 17: But if you run, if you run in the defense,

940
00:51:01,587 --> 00:51:06,227
Speaker 17: then the running becomes much harder. So it's psychologically different running.

941
00:51:06,387 --> 00:51:08,547
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's always easy and always easier when you got

942
00:51:08,547 --> 00:51:09,187
Speaker 3: the ball, isn't it.

943
00:51:09,547 --> 00:51:13,227
Speaker 18: It's a lot easier.

944
00:51:14,067 --> 00:51:16,787
Speaker 3: Now. Two goals in the first six weeks of the season.

945
00:51:16,827 --> 00:51:19,147
Speaker 3: Nothing since when's this next goal of yours coming?

946
00:51:20,387 --> 00:51:23,507
Speaker 18: I give you one on Saturday. I won't keep you waiting.

947
00:51:24,267 --> 00:51:26,507
Speaker 3: I love that. I know that you'd you'd sit at

948
00:51:26,547 --> 00:51:28,147
Speaker 3: the start of the season. You want to match, if

949
00:51:28,187 --> 00:51:30,187
Speaker 3: not better, your contribution from last year.

950
00:51:30,387 --> 00:51:30,787
Speaker 18: I guess that.

951
00:51:31,107 --> 00:51:32,627
Speaker 3: I guess the chances have to four your way. They

952
00:51:32,627 --> 00:51:34,147
Speaker 3: don't they. I mean you look like you look at

953
00:51:34,147 --> 00:51:36,387
Speaker 3: Sam Cosgrove, Locky Brook, Jesse Rand or they're kind of

954
00:51:36,387 --> 00:51:38,667
Speaker 3: hogging all the chances, really, aren't they.

955
00:51:39,707 --> 00:51:42,147
Speaker 17: Yeah, they'll be also but also creating the chances. So

956
00:51:42,187 --> 00:51:44,787
Speaker 17: I don't mind. I have a different role in the team,

957
00:51:45,107 --> 00:51:47,387
Speaker 17: but if I if I have an opportunity, I will

958
00:51:47,387 --> 00:51:48,027
Speaker 17: not hesitate.

959
00:51:49,187 --> 00:51:54,107
Speaker 3: And how different or not are Auckland FC's tactics and

960
00:51:54,227 --> 00:51:57,467
Speaker 3: playing style this year compared to last season. Is there

961
00:51:57,547 --> 00:52:00,107
Speaker 3: much of a change or are you approaching games and

962
00:52:00,187 --> 00:52:01,387
Speaker 3: pretty much the same way?

963
00:52:02,907 --> 00:52:06,227
Speaker 17: I think obviously with with different players, you you have

964
00:52:06,387 --> 00:52:10,187
Speaker 17: different systems. I think we play now to the strengths

965
00:52:10,187 --> 00:52:13,907
Speaker 17: of our players more than and last year we we

966
00:52:13,907 --> 00:52:16,787
Speaker 17: we we used to the strengths of the other players

967
00:52:16,787 --> 00:52:19,787
Speaker 17: that we're playing, So it's always a bit a bit different.

968
00:52:21,067 --> 00:52:23,507
Speaker 17: We also have a few options in games when when

969
00:52:23,547 --> 00:52:25,307
Speaker 17: we when we go to a five back or we

970
00:52:25,347 --> 00:52:29,507
Speaker 17: have different options. So tactically it's there are there are

971
00:52:29,547 --> 00:52:33,027
Speaker 17: still a few same principles, but the structure sometimes changes.

972
00:52:34,187 --> 00:52:37,107
Speaker 3: The rist, the rist guard that you wear, is that

973
00:52:37,667 --> 00:52:41,427
Speaker 3: is that a superstition? I remember last year and you said, no, no,

974
00:52:41,507 --> 00:52:44,227
Speaker 3: it's actually to protect have you is there is there

975
00:52:44,267 --> 00:52:45,667
Speaker 3: a I don't know. Do you wear it just to

976
00:52:45,707 --> 00:52:47,147
Speaker 3: protect that particular rist?

977
00:52:48,147 --> 00:52:50,667
Speaker 17: Yeah, so I had I had quite a bad injury

978
00:52:50,667 --> 00:52:53,187
Speaker 17: on my wrist, like they call it an evulsion where

979
00:52:53,227 --> 00:52:55,827
Speaker 17: the tendon rubs a piece of bone off in the wrist.

980
00:52:57,067 --> 00:53:00,027
Speaker 17: But I'm basically pain free now, but it's still unstable,

981
00:53:00,107 --> 00:53:03,067
Speaker 17: so it's more a precaution that I don't damage it again.

982
00:53:03,507 --> 00:53:07,107
Speaker 17: But maybe you can call a superstition, but it's I

983
00:53:07,107 --> 00:53:09,267
Speaker 17: would say it's too to protect my wrist a little bit,

984
00:53:09,267 --> 00:53:11,267
Speaker 17: so it's still it still has a purpose yet.

985
00:53:11,347 --> 00:53:13,587
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it seems to be working. And just a

986
00:53:13,627 --> 00:53:15,867
Speaker 3: final question later in the year that your whites will

987
00:53:15,867 --> 00:53:19,547
Speaker 3: play Belgium in the World Cup. You'll have you know,

988
00:53:19,587 --> 00:53:22,707
Speaker 3: the likes of Jesse Randall and Nando and and baby

989
00:53:22,787 --> 00:53:25,507
Speaker 3: Logan and others from your team, you know, playing against

990
00:53:25,547 --> 00:53:27,987
Speaker 3: the country of your birth. So who are you chairing

991
00:53:28,067 --> 00:53:29,587
Speaker 3: for that day?

992
00:53:30,227 --> 00:53:34,987
Speaker 18: That's a very difficult question. I will that's that's a

993
00:53:34,987 --> 00:53:35,507
Speaker 18: good question.

994
00:53:35,667 --> 00:53:38,387
Speaker 17: I wasn't prepared for this one.

995
00:53:39,427 --> 00:53:40,827
Speaker 3: You don't have to you don't have to come up

996
00:53:40,827 --> 00:53:42,467
Speaker 3: with an you don't have to come up with an answer.

997
00:53:42,467 --> 00:53:44,827
Speaker 3: Maybe you could just I mean, it's a no lose situation,

998
00:53:44,987 --> 00:53:47,787
Speaker 3: isn't it, Belgium. When you're happy and you win, you're happy.

999
00:53:48,227 --> 00:53:50,907
Speaker 17: Yeah, either way, I will be happy and sad in

1000
00:53:50,947 --> 00:53:54,387
Speaker 17: one way and happy in the other. So yeah, wonderful.

1001
00:53:54,427 --> 00:53:56,147
Speaker 3: Well we can talk about that game closer to the

1002
00:53:56,187 --> 00:53:58,827
Speaker 3: time and maybe maybe it'll be a different answer. Louis

1003
00:53:58,867 --> 00:54:00,707
Speaker 3: all the best for the derby on Saturday. Thanks, thanks

1004
00:54:00,707 --> 00:54:04,427
Speaker 3: for chatting as always. Yeah, you see you, Lada. Thanks Louis,

1005
00:54:04,467 --> 00:54:10,067
Speaker 3: louisverstrata there. Yeah, I mean, terrific guy and very popular

1006
00:54:10,147 --> 00:54:13,107
Speaker 3: inside that Auckland FC changing room for what he does

1007
00:54:13,147 --> 00:54:16,187
Speaker 3: on the field, and and also of course you know

1008
00:54:16,227 --> 00:54:18,067
Speaker 3: the kind of guy that he is. You can just

1009
00:54:18,107 --> 00:54:20,467
Speaker 3: tell there he's got a bit about him. There's a

1010
00:54:20,707 --> 00:54:22,987
Speaker 3: there's a feature on the A League website which is

1011
00:54:23,027 --> 00:54:26,387
Speaker 3: called your heat map. So when you look if you

1012
00:54:26,427 --> 00:54:28,307
Speaker 3: want to review a game, you go to the game

1013
00:54:28,347 --> 00:54:30,827
Speaker 3: and then you select a player and it shows you

1014
00:54:31,067 --> 00:54:34,507
Speaker 3: a graphic of the pitch and the heat map is

1015
00:54:34,547 --> 00:54:37,227
Speaker 3: how you know. It is the parts of the pitch

1016
00:54:37,307 --> 00:54:40,547
Speaker 3: that that player has been in across the across the game.

1017
00:54:40,627 --> 00:54:42,387
Speaker 3: So for example, if you were looking at a at

1018
00:54:42,427 --> 00:54:45,507
Speaker 3: Francis Devrees, who's the left back for Auckland, you know

1019
00:54:45,587 --> 00:54:47,227
Speaker 3: a lot of his you know, there's a lot of

1020
00:54:48,227 --> 00:54:50,427
Speaker 3: coloring in up and down the left hand side because

1021
00:54:50,427 --> 00:54:51,827
Speaker 3: that's where he goes. He goes up and down the

1022
00:54:51,907 --> 00:54:55,147
Speaker 3: left hand side. Similarly, for you know, a striker, a

1023
00:54:55,147 --> 00:54:57,267
Speaker 3: center forward, most of their work would be in the

1024
00:54:57,307 --> 00:54:59,827
Speaker 3: attacking third. You know they come back to help out defensively,

1025
00:54:59,867 --> 00:55:03,267
Speaker 3: but most of their heat map, the big red blotches,

1026
00:55:03,267 --> 00:55:06,307
Speaker 3: if you like, are further up the field. Louisvus Strata

1027
00:55:06,387 --> 00:55:10,227
Speaker 3: heat map is basically the whole pitch. He's just everywhere.

1028
00:55:10,627 --> 00:55:15,227
Speaker 3: He is incredible, relentless, still running deep into games and

1029
00:55:15,347 --> 00:55:16,987
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter if it's the first minute or the

1030
00:55:17,067 --> 00:55:20,867
Speaker 3: ninety first he's still running. And what was he saying there?

1031
00:55:20,987 --> 00:55:24,667
Speaker 3: Twelve thirteen kilometers every game, every single game. He is

1032
00:55:24,707 --> 00:55:28,027
Speaker 3: a huge part of this Auckland f C side as

1033
00:55:28,067 --> 00:55:31,827
Speaker 3: they look forward to trying to extend their derby winning

1034
00:55:31,907 --> 00:55:37,107
Speaker 3: streak to six this afternoon, six derby wins. If they

1035
00:55:37,147 --> 00:55:39,987
Speaker 3: won this afternoon, they've won the previous five. Paul on

1036
00:55:40,067 --> 00:55:43,227
Speaker 3: Tech says Pinety Phoenix fan here, I live in Auckland.

1037
00:55:43,267 --> 00:55:46,427
Speaker 3: I'm picking my Phoenix to finally get the monkey off

1038
00:55:46,467 --> 00:55:49,547
Speaker 3: their backs and win in a feisty encounter. I also

1039
00:55:49,627 --> 00:55:52,027
Speaker 3: expect my Knicks to repeat the dose and the season's

1040
00:55:52,067 --> 00:55:56,347
Speaker 3: next derby in the playoffs. Thanks Paul. Yeah, look, at

1041
00:55:56,347 --> 00:55:58,627
Speaker 3: some point you'd have to think that the Phoenix would

1042
00:55:58,667 --> 00:56:03,667
Speaker 3: win one of these things, right, five straight defeats. We'll

1043
00:56:03,667 --> 00:56:05,987
Speaker 3: get inside the Phoenix camp and see how they're feeling shortly.

1044
00:56:06,027 --> 00:56:09,107
Speaker 3: Carlo Armiento has been a great addition to the Wellington

1045
00:56:09,107 --> 00:56:11,827
Speaker 3: Phoenix roster the season. He scored five goals and been

1046
00:56:11,867 --> 00:56:15,587
Speaker 3: involved in a lot of their best creative attacking moves.

1047
00:56:15,987 --> 00:56:19,467
Speaker 3: So how are they feeling about breaking this derby drought

1048
00:56:19,627 --> 00:56:24,627
Speaker 3: and stopping Auckland FC's derby domination. Carlo Amana when we come.

1049
00:56:24,507 --> 00:56:29,627
Speaker 1: Back tackles harder opinions, we can sport with Jason five

1050
00:56:29,867 --> 00:56:34,347
Speaker 1: and GJ. Gardnerhomes New Zealand's most trusted home builder News Talks.

1051
00:56:34,347 --> 00:56:36,987
Speaker 3: That'd be one twenty five updating live sport from the

1052
00:56:36,987 --> 00:56:40,147
Speaker 3: Basin Reserve. It's the domestic women's fifty over cricket final

1053
00:56:40,187 --> 00:56:43,307
Speaker 3: between the Wellington Blaze and the Northern District's women's side.

1054
00:56:43,627 --> 00:56:46,867
Speaker 3: Northern all out for one eighty two, having won the

1055
00:56:46,907 --> 00:56:50,907
Speaker 3: toss and elected to bat first. One eighty two all out.

1056
00:56:50,947 --> 00:56:54,667
Speaker 3: That's actually not bad considering they were ninety four for seven,

1057
00:56:55,147 --> 00:56:58,147
Speaker 3: so a bit of a rearguard action Holly Top their

1058
00:56:58,187 --> 00:57:01,787
Speaker 3: wicket keeper scoring thirty nine, Marta mad Down's batting at

1059
00:57:01,867 --> 00:57:05,187
Speaker 3: number nine with twenty five and then Kaylee Knight, who

1060
00:57:05,227 --> 00:57:08,107
Speaker 3: I think was named in the White yesterday fourteen at

1061
00:57:08,107 --> 00:57:11,467
Speaker 3: the end and Lucy Boucher at number eleven twelve not out,

1062
00:57:11,507 --> 00:57:14,307
Speaker 3: so they kind of I guess hadded a few runs

1063
00:57:14,307 --> 00:57:16,747
Speaker 3: at the end and got themselves through to a reasonably

1064
00:57:16,787 --> 00:57:18,987
Speaker 3: respectable total one eighty two. I don't think it makes

1065
00:57:18,987 --> 00:57:22,267
Speaker 3: them favorite against a fairly strong Wellington Blaze batting side,

1066
00:57:22,307 --> 00:57:25,267
Speaker 3: but at least they've got a total to bowl at.

1067
00:57:25,507 --> 00:57:28,107
Speaker 3: Merely Kerk three for forty nine, Jess Ker two for

1068
00:57:28,187 --> 00:57:32,467
Speaker 3: thirty two, Nicole Beard two twenty two and Hanna Francis

1069
00:57:32,467 --> 00:57:35,627
Speaker 3: two for twenty eight, so the wickets shared round amongst

1070
00:57:35,667 --> 00:57:38,787
Speaker 3: the Wellington Blaze bowlers. They will be out shortly to

1071
00:57:38,907 --> 00:57:42,107
Speaker 3: chase one hundred and eighty three to collect a second

1072
00:57:42,147 --> 00:57:45,067
Speaker 3: title of the summer, having already of course claimed the

1073
00:57:45,187 --> 00:57:51,067
Speaker 3: Super Smash title. Just before we talk to Carlo Amiento

1074
00:57:51,107 --> 00:57:54,307
Speaker 3: out of the Wellington Phoenix camp. Auckland FC are back

1075
00:57:54,387 --> 00:57:59,107
Speaker 3: at home next Saturday, a week today Saturday, February twenty eight,

1076
00:57:59,187 --> 00:58:03,307
Speaker 3: they take on Melbourne City. Melbourne City next Saturday. Melbourne

1077
00:58:03,347 --> 00:58:07,507
Speaker 3: City won the Grand Final last year Auckland FC won

1078
00:58:07,547 --> 00:58:09,987
Speaker 3: the Premier's Plate, so it's the Premiers against the champions.

1079
00:58:10,307 --> 00:58:11,947
Speaker 3: If you would like to be there and you will

1080
00:58:11,947 --> 00:58:15,307
Speaker 3: be in Auckland next weekend, I've got a six ticket

1081
00:58:15,467 --> 00:58:19,307
Speaker 3: family pass up for grabs, six tickets to go and

1082
00:58:19,347 --> 00:58:22,067
Speaker 3: see this game next weekend. It's a five o'clock kick

1083
00:58:22,107 --> 00:58:24,027
Speaker 3: off at go Media Stadium. As I say, we can't

1084
00:58:24,027 --> 00:58:26,427
Speaker 3: get you to Aukland. But if you are able to

1085
00:58:26,427 --> 00:58:30,587
Speaker 3: get to go Media Stadium next Saturday at five and

1086
00:58:30,627 --> 00:58:33,747
Speaker 3: you want to take five people with you, simply text

1087
00:58:33,787 --> 00:58:37,627
Speaker 3: AFC and your name to nine two nine two. So

1088
00:58:37,707 --> 00:58:40,947
Speaker 3: simply AFC and your name far off to nine two

1089
00:58:41,027 --> 00:58:43,187
Speaker 3: nine two. You're in the draw. We will do the

1090
00:58:43,267 --> 00:58:48,027
Speaker 3: draw on Monday. A big part of Wellington Phoenix's attacking

1091
00:58:48,267 --> 00:58:52,907
Speaker 3: armory this year has been Carlo Armiento, the freshly arrived

1092
00:58:53,347 --> 00:58:54,427
Speaker 3: left sided attacker.

1093
00:58:55,027 --> 00:58:59,387
Speaker 16: No Jerene sets off downfield four on four for Wellington

1094
00:58:59,707 --> 00:59:08,547
Speaker 16: Amiento who fit us from Charlo Armyento's child in front.

1095
00:59:08,347 --> 00:59:10,667
Speaker 3: Of yellow fever. Yeah, that was one of the five

1096
00:59:10,707 --> 00:59:14,547
Speaker 3: goals that Carlo Amiento has scored this A League men's season.

1097
00:59:14,707 --> 00:59:16,747
Speaker 3: I spoke to him during the week about the derby

1098
00:59:16,787 --> 00:59:20,827
Speaker 3: and asked how different Derby week feels compared to other

1099
00:59:21,027 --> 00:59:22,507
Speaker 3: A League games.

1100
00:59:23,147 --> 00:59:25,027
Speaker 14: Yeah, it has a different feel about it. I think

1101
00:59:25,027 --> 00:59:28,467
Speaker 14: the big crowd, the big occasion Auckland and Wellington. Since

1102
00:59:28,507 --> 00:59:30,387
Speaker 14: coming over here, you can definitely feel it. So yeah,

1103
00:59:30,387 --> 00:59:31,547
Speaker 14: I'm looking forward to it again.

1104
00:59:31,867 --> 00:59:34,187
Speaker 3: How does it compare to other atmospheres you've played, and

1105
00:59:34,187 --> 00:59:37,667
Speaker 3: have you played in similar games between teams where there's

1106
00:59:37,827 --> 00:59:40,387
Speaker 3: there's been a rivalry, a derby or otherwise.

1107
00:59:40,627 --> 00:59:42,787
Speaker 14: Yeah, I think where I came from, Adelide obviously have

1108
00:59:42,787 --> 00:59:46,067
Speaker 14: the riginal rivery against Victory and I actually made my

1109
00:59:46,147 --> 00:59:48,667
Speaker 14: debut in that, so I think it's very similar. Both

1110
00:59:48,707 --> 00:59:52,787
Speaker 14: teams probably hate each other and the fans are really passionate.

1111
00:59:52,827 --> 00:59:55,187
Speaker 14: So yeah, it's a good derby and it's a good rovery.

1112
00:59:55,747 --> 00:59:57,987
Speaker 3: Does the history in any way play on your mind?

1113
00:59:57,987 --> 00:59:59,707
Speaker 3: There's no getting away from it. Auckland have won all

1114
00:59:59,747 --> 01:00:03,947
Speaker 3: five so far. Does that create a psychological barrier or

1115
01:00:03,947 --> 01:00:05,667
Speaker 3: a weight on your shoulders at all?

1116
01:00:06,387 --> 01:00:08,747
Speaker 14: Yeah, you can't hide from it because it's five zero,

1117
01:00:09,547 --> 01:00:10,987
Speaker 14: and I think you just need to go out there

1118
01:00:10,987 --> 01:00:13,627
Speaker 14: and put it behind you and just go win the game,

1119
01:00:13,707 --> 01:00:15,507
Speaker 14: because I think more you dwell on it, more you

1120
01:00:15,547 --> 01:00:17,067
Speaker 14: think about it, it's in the back of your head

1121
01:00:17,067 --> 01:00:19,627
Speaker 14: and you start thinking, oh, no, we're going to lose

1122
01:00:19,667 --> 01:00:20,907
Speaker 14: this game. So I think you just need to go

1123
01:00:20,947 --> 01:00:22,947
Speaker 14: out there. And I know it's cliche to say, but

1124
01:00:22,987 --> 01:00:24,627
Speaker 14: it's another game of football, But I think you just

1125
01:00:24,627 --> 01:00:26,147
Speaker 14: need to go out there and play and have fun,

1126
01:00:26,387 --> 01:00:29,147
Speaker 14: because if you're thinking about five nil, it's going to

1127
01:00:29,227 --> 01:00:31,027
Speaker 14: annoy you. And yeah, who knows what's going to happen

1128
01:00:31,067 --> 01:00:31,387
Speaker 14: after that?

1129
01:00:31,867 --> 01:00:33,907
Speaker 3: Is it fuel in some way as well? That you know, hey,

1130
01:00:33,987 --> 01:00:36,187
Speaker 3: when tomorrow and you are part of the first Phoenix

1131
01:00:36,187 --> 01:00:37,667
Speaker 3: team to win one of these.

1132
01:00:37,547 --> 01:00:40,187
Speaker 14: Things one hundred percent. That's what we've been saying all week, saying,

1133
01:00:40,227 --> 01:00:41,787
Speaker 14: you win tomorrow, you can set up our season.

1134
01:00:41,867 --> 01:00:43,107
Speaker 19: You put one back on them.

1135
01:00:43,147 --> 01:00:45,347
Speaker 14: So I think, I think all the pressures on them

1136
01:00:45,347 --> 01:00:46,987
Speaker 14: to keep six nil, we just need to go out

1137
01:00:46,987 --> 01:00:49,107
Speaker 14: there and they're the team we're They're at the top

1138
01:00:49,147 --> 01:00:50,427
Speaker 14: and we're down the bottom. So we need to go

1139
01:00:50,467 --> 01:00:53,187
Speaker 14: out there and just show New Zealand who.

1140
01:00:53,027 --> 01:00:55,307
Speaker 3: We are in a game like this where there is

1141
01:00:55,347 --> 01:00:57,307
Speaker 3: you know, high emotion, particularly in the stands, you know,

1142
01:00:57,387 --> 01:00:59,107
Speaker 3: and us on the media. We tend to build these

1143
01:00:59,147 --> 01:01:00,387
Speaker 3: things up a little bit, you know. How do you

1144
01:01:00,787 --> 01:01:04,227
Speaker 3: balance emotion with keeping a cool head in the heat.

1145
01:01:04,067 --> 01:01:04,547
Speaker 19: Of the battle.

1146
01:01:05,307 --> 01:01:07,507
Speaker 14: Yeah, it's hard, I think out there when you get

1147
01:01:07,547 --> 01:01:09,587
Speaker 14: caught up in at the last two derbies have been

1148
01:01:09,627 --> 01:01:12,267
Speaker 14: full on penalties, red cards. But I think it's important

1149
01:01:12,307 --> 01:01:13,707
Speaker 14: to keep your head because as soon as you lose

1150
01:01:13,707 --> 01:01:16,627
Speaker 14: your head who knows what could happen. You can get

1151
01:01:16,667 --> 01:01:18,747
Speaker 14: sent off, give a penalty. You don't want that, So

1152
01:01:18,787 --> 01:01:20,427
Speaker 14: I think there is a motion, but you need to

1153
01:01:20,427 --> 01:01:21,587
Speaker 14: have controlled emotions.

1154
01:01:22,107 --> 01:01:24,107
Speaker 3: And who sits the tone in games like this? I mean,

1155
01:01:24,347 --> 01:01:26,587
Speaker 3: I mean, you're reasonably seen your player in this team,

1156
01:01:26,627 --> 01:01:29,067
Speaker 3: But is it like a roofer in a Nagasawa or

1157
01:01:29,067 --> 01:01:30,747
Speaker 3: are they the guys who sit the tone for you

1158
01:01:31,147 --> 01:01:33,067
Speaker 3: even before you walk onto the grass?

1159
01:01:33,267 --> 01:01:34,067
Speaker 14: Yeah, one hundred percent.

1160
01:01:34,107 --> 01:01:34,987
Speaker 19: The leadership group.

1161
01:01:35,147 --> 01:01:37,467
Speaker 14: The leadership group, I think the older players, but I

1162
01:01:37,507 --> 01:01:40,267
Speaker 14: think this game on the weekend, it has to be

1163
01:01:40,307 --> 01:01:42,547
Speaker 14: the whole fifteen to sixteen of us because we've shown

1164
01:01:42,627 --> 01:01:44,187
Speaker 14: we can do it in patches. But I think if

1165
01:01:44,187 --> 01:01:47,067
Speaker 14: we lead by example, Roof's leaves by example and everyone follows,

1166
01:01:47,067 --> 01:01:49,307
Speaker 14: I think you need a good, strong group go out

1167
01:01:49,307 --> 01:01:51,147
Speaker 14: there and show the rest of the league who we are.

1168
01:01:51,627 --> 01:01:54,427
Speaker 3: We'll talk about the challenge that Auckland specifically present as

1169
01:01:54,427 --> 01:01:57,667
Speaker 3: a football team. What is it that you've preeped for

1170
01:01:57,667 --> 01:01:59,067
Speaker 3: for ahead of tomorrow.

1171
01:01:59,667 --> 01:02:02,027
Speaker 14: Yeah, they're a good football team, no hiding out the physical.

1172
01:02:02,147 --> 01:02:04,587
Speaker 14: They've got good qualities. I think we just need to

1173
01:02:04,587 --> 01:02:06,547
Speaker 14: be disciplined in the way we defend and then when

1174
01:02:06,547 --> 01:02:08,547
Speaker 14: we have our chances to take our chances. Because they're

1175
01:02:08,547 --> 01:02:13,027
Speaker 14: obviously a good, solid defensive team unit, you can't hide

1176
01:02:13,067 --> 01:02:15,147
Speaker 14: from that as well. They've probably conceded the least amount

1177
01:02:15,147 --> 01:02:17,147
Speaker 14: of goals. I'm not quite sure, but so yeah, I

1178
01:02:17,227 --> 01:02:19,147
Speaker 14: think by our attack on the other hand, I think

1179
01:02:19,187 --> 01:02:21,867
Speaker 14: we scored two goals every game, So I think it's

1180
01:02:21,907 --> 01:02:23,907
Speaker 14: a good challenge for US attackers. And yeah, we can't

1181
01:02:23,907 --> 01:02:25,347
Speaker 14: wait to go out tomorrow and have some fun.

1182
01:02:25,587 --> 01:02:27,707
Speaker 3: Well, speaking of goals, five for you this season, your

1183
01:02:27,787 --> 01:02:31,347
Speaker 3: most prolific Gay League season. How fifth for how are

1184
01:02:31,387 --> 01:02:34,147
Speaker 3: you enjoying yourself? And you know, what have you made

1185
01:02:34,147 --> 01:02:36,267
Speaker 3: of the season so far? From a from a personal

1186
01:02:36,307 --> 01:02:38,187
Speaker 3: point of view, Yeah, I'm loving it.

1187
01:02:38,227 --> 01:02:39,947
Speaker 14: I think you can tell the way I'm playing and

1188
01:02:40,067 --> 01:02:42,987
Speaker 14: the fun I'm having on the pitch. So yeah, hopefully

1189
01:02:43,067 --> 01:02:45,187
Speaker 14: we can hopefully personally I can get some more goals

1190
01:02:45,227 --> 01:02:46,867
Speaker 14: and assist to help the team get over the line.

1191
01:02:46,947 --> 01:02:49,067
Speaker 14: So yeah, I'm full credits chief. He has brought me

1192
01:02:49,067 --> 01:02:51,587
Speaker 14: into a new position. It could have gone anywhere. It

1193
01:02:51,627 --> 01:02:53,787
Speaker 14: could have gone, yeah, I could have it could have

1194
01:02:53,787 --> 01:02:55,587
Speaker 14: been a disaster, It could have been how it's turning

1195
01:02:55,587 --> 01:02:57,787
Speaker 14: out now, So yeah, full credit full credit to him

1196
01:02:57,827 --> 01:02:59,987
Speaker 14: is put belief in me, and now I'm just thriving

1197
01:02:59,987 --> 01:03:01,587
Speaker 14: and I'm loving every single second of it.

1198
01:03:01,987 --> 01:03:04,467
Speaker 3: No disaster, hear. I can tell you that the way

1199
01:03:04,507 --> 01:03:06,307
Speaker 3: you strike the ball with your left foot, it's really

1200
01:03:06,587 --> 01:03:09,627
Speaker 3: catching stuff. Is that a skill that you have worked

1201
01:03:09,667 --> 01:03:12,427
Speaker 3: hard to develop over time? Just then ability to strike

1202
01:03:12,467 --> 01:03:15,067
Speaker 3: so cleanly in goal scoring positions?

1203
01:03:15,667 --> 01:03:18,187
Speaker 14: Yeah, I think I had a coach school probably I

1204
01:03:18,227 --> 01:03:20,747
Speaker 14: think many probably know I'm Damian Murray, So yeah, I

1205
01:03:20,747 --> 01:03:22,947
Speaker 14: had him at Adele City and I probably always.

1206
01:03:22,627 --> 01:03:23,187
Speaker 19: Had the power.

1207
01:03:23,227 --> 01:03:27,027
Speaker 14: But when I was probably sixteen, probably younger, he just

1208
01:03:27,307 --> 01:03:29,267
Speaker 14: put me aside and we just probably had shots after

1209
01:03:29,307 --> 01:03:32,267
Speaker 14: training and just to practice my technique. And I think

1210
01:03:32,307 --> 01:03:35,187
Speaker 14: from there the repetition just I got more confident, more confident,

1211
01:03:35,227 --> 01:03:38,347
Speaker 14: and yeah, as you like, I probably strike it sometimes

1212
01:03:38,587 --> 01:03:41,707
Speaker 14: too hard, but yeah, I love striking a ball, and

1213
01:03:41,747 --> 01:03:44,067
Speaker 14: any opportunity I can have to have a short or

1214
01:03:44,107 --> 01:03:46,347
Speaker 14: had across, yeah, I get excited.

1215
01:03:46,667 --> 01:03:48,387
Speaker 3: So it was a largely technique because I see you

1216
01:03:48,467 --> 01:03:50,507
Speaker 3: move into those positions down the left and you're cutting

1217
01:03:50,547 --> 01:03:53,027
Speaker 3: and you know, like the last goal you scored, you know,

1218
01:03:53,467 --> 01:03:56,347
Speaker 3: are you in a sort of is your mindset now

1219
01:03:56,347 --> 01:03:58,347
Speaker 3: that technique will take over. You don't have to try

1220
01:03:58,347 --> 01:04:00,027
Speaker 3: and just leather the hell out of it.

1221
01:04:00,467 --> 01:04:02,587
Speaker 14: Yeah, especially on that left hand side, where I probably

1222
01:04:02,587 --> 01:04:04,667
Speaker 14: scored majority of my goals this year and get all

1223
01:04:04,667 --> 01:04:06,867
Speaker 14: my tiyes. I think that's my favorite spot. I find

1224
01:04:06,867 --> 01:04:09,227
Speaker 14: that easier than in the middle of the belves because

1225
01:04:09,467 --> 01:04:11,707
Speaker 14: I've done it for so long now. I think it's

1226
01:04:11,747 --> 01:04:14,707
Speaker 14: just repetition, repetition. I know if I make good contact

1227
01:04:14,707 --> 01:04:17,947
Speaker 14: across the keeper majority of the times, it should end

1228
01:04:18,027 --> 01:04:18,827
Speaker 14: up where I want it to be.

1229
01:04:19,107 --> 01:04:20,707
Speaker 3: And right in front of the yellow fever as well,

1230
01:04:21,107 --> 01:04:23,027
Speaker 3: there'll be big obviously in the derby. How much do

1231
01:04:23,107 --> 01:04:24,827
Speaker 3: the crowd lift you in games.

1232
01:04:24,587 --> 01:04:26,707
Speaker 14: Like this, Yeah, one hundred percent. For some reason, I

1233
01:04:26,787 --> 01:04:29,187
Speaker 14: have a habit from in scoring right in front of them,

1234
01:04:29,347 --> 01:04:31,947
Speaker 14: So hopefully that happens tomorrow. But yeah, the yellow fever

1235
01:04:31,987 --> 01:04:34,587
Speaker 14: and tomorrow the crowd will be massive, especially playing in

1236
01:04:34,587 --> 01:04:37,107
Speaker 14: front of them and at home. I think that just

1237
01:04:37,307 --> 01:04:40,067
Speaker 14: one percent two percent extra energy, I think. Yeah, hopefully

1238
01:04:40,067 --> 01:04:41,107
Speaker 14: it'll be turned out tomorrow.

1239
01:04:41,627 --> 01:04:44,627
Speaker 3: And your contractious this season. I think you have you

1240
01:04:44,667 --> 01:04:47,627
Speaker 3: started to think about, you know, or as have conversations

1241
01:04:47,627 --> 01:04:50,187
Speaker 3: started about possibly extending. Would you like to stay?

1242
01:04:50,627 --> 01:04:50,787
Speaker 18: Yeah?

1243
01:04:50,827 --> 01:04:53,107
Speaker 14: I'd love to stay, but nothing has happened at the moment,

1244
01:04:53,187 --> 01:04:55,267
Speaker 14: so yeah, I'm just focusing on myself at the moment,

1245
01:04:55,427 --> 01:04:58,627
Speaker 14: just continue the work and hopefully who knows what will

1246
01:04:58,627 --> 01:05:00,987
Speaker 14: happen in the future. But like I said, I'm loving

1247
01:05:00,987 --> 01:05:03,307
Speaker 14: my time here and yeah, we'll see what happens.

1248
01:05:03,747 --> 01:05:05,987
Speaker 3: Just finally, I wouldn't tomorrow. Does it feel like that

1249
01:05:06,027 --> 01:05:08,587
Speaker 3: would be worth even more than the three points and

1250
01:05:08,587 --> 01:05:10,147
Speaker 3: that it would give you a spring board into the

1251
01:05:10,187 --> 01:05:12,187
Speaker 3: back end the last eight games of the season to

1252
01:05:12,227 --> 01:05:14,227
Speaker 3: really make a run at the six and water is

1253
01:05:14,267 --> 01:05:15,147
Speaker 3: a very tight table.

1254
01:05:15,587 --> 01:05:17,827
Speaker 14: Yeah, one hundred percent. I think we're only four points

1255
01:05:17,867 --> 01:05:19,667
Speaker 14: off to six and we went tomorrow. I think everyone

1256
01:05:19,707 --> 01:05:21,747
Speaker 14: plays each other this round as well, so it could

1257
01:05:21,787 --> 01:05:24,227
Speaker 14: be a lot closer. So I think it's just one

1258
01:05:24,267 --> 01:05:26,787
Speaker 14: game at a time mentality. But yeah, tomorrow is probably

1259
01:05:26,787 --> 01:05:29,507
Speaker 14: a massive, massive game on all fronts the derby, how

1260
01:05:29,507 --> 01:05:32,507
Speaker 14: close the table is, where our season's at, So yeah,

1261
01:05:32,507 --> 01:05:34,667
Speaker 14: there's so many positives to look forward to tomorrow and

1262
01:05:34,707 --> 01:05:36,267
Speaker 14: hopefully we're on the right side of the result.

1263
01:05:36,387 --> 01:05:39,947
Speaker 3: That is the voice of Carlo Armiento Wellington Phoenix Attack

1264
01:05:39,947 --> 01:05:42,747
Speaker 3: ahead of the Derby this afternoon, five o'clock keen to

1265
01:05:42,747 --> 01:05:46,347
Speaker 3: hear from Phoenix fans Auckland f C fans, how confident

1266
01:05:46,387 --> 01:05:48,747
Speaker 3: do you feel? I know there's a good contingent of

1267
01:05:48,827 --> 01:05:51,747
Speaker 3: Auckland FC fans in Wellington. They have had to open

1268
01:05:51,827 --> 01:05:54,667
Speaker 3: up an extra block of seating to accommodate them all.

1269
01:05:55,267 --> 01:05:58,947
Speaker 3: Hearing upwards of eight hundred traveling Auckland FC fans will

1270
01:05:58,947 --> 01:06:01,467
Speaker 3: be there at the northern end of Sky Stadium a

1271
01:06:01,467 --> 01:06:05,987
Speaker 3: bit later on this afternoon. They add a tremendous atmosphere

1272
01:06:06,027 --> 01:06:08,827
Speaker 3: to the you know, to the games that they're at

1273
01:06:08,867 --> 01:06:11,707
Speaker 3: home or away. Anyone who's been to go Media Stadium

1274
01:06:11,747 --> 01:06:14,787
Speaker 3: to watch Auckland FC play this season or last season,

1275
01:06:14,827 --> 01:06:16,947
Speaker 3: we'll know what it's like there. And when they travel

1276
01:06:16,987 --> 01:06:19,907
Speaker 3: it's I mean it's almost I've always thought when you

1277
01:06:19,947 --> 01:06:22,947
Speaker 3: travel away to watch your team play, there's something just

1278
01:06:22,987 --> 01:06:24,987
Speaker 3: a bit different and a bit special about it. If

1279
01:06:25,027 --> 01:06:27,867
Speaker 3: you've had the opportunity to watch the All Blacks play overseas,

1280
01:06:28,387 --> 01:06:30,787
Speaker 3: it just feels different, doesn't it. It's different. You feel

1281
01:06:30,787 --> 01:06:34,227
Speaker 3: like you're part of it. You're all there behind enemy lines,

1282
01:06:35,227 --> 01:06:38,627
Speaker 3: so you know you want to be you want to

1283
01:06:38,627 --> 01:06:42,027
Speaker 3: play your part. I think way away fans are a

1284
01:06:42,027 --> 01:06:46,387
Speaker 3: lot louder. Yes, there might be fewer of them, and

1285
01:06:46,427 --> 01:06:48,907
Speaker 3: this afternoon, I'm certainly hoping there'll be a crowd of

1286
01:06:49,347 --> 01:06:52,307
Speaker 3: twelve to fifteen thousand there at sky Stadium, the majority

1287
01:06:52,387 --> 01:06:56,307
Speaker 3: of them Phoenix fans. But when you're a traveling fan,

1288
01:06:56,387 --> 01:06:59,267
Speaker 3: you make a lot more noise, a lot more noise.

1289
01:06:59,347 --> 01:07:02,747
Speaker 3: Dere Okay, you're going six and oh.

1290
01:07:02,347 --> 01:07:04,667
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think so, I think so. But you're right

1291
01:07:04,707 --> 01:07:06,787
Speaker 8: about the traveling fans. I was at the first Starvy

1292
01:07:06,867 --> 01:07:08,947
Speaker 8: game and it was it was tacked to the brim

1293
01:07:09,307 --> 01:07:12,307
Speaker 8: really early on, and there was a lot of Phoenix

1294
01:07:12,347 --> 01:07:14,547
Speaker 8: fans just off to my left. Oh, I would have

1295
01:07:14,547 --> 01:07:16,627
Speaker 8: been off to the left of where your commentary was too.

1296
01:07:16,787 --> 01:07:18,547
Speaker 8: They would have been out there, That's where they were.

1297
01:07:18,707 --> 01:07:21,587
Speaker 8: And when Ruper got their goal, they really made a

1298
01:07:21,627 --> 01:07:23,627
Speaker 8: lot of noise. But in the second half, the port

1299
01:07:23,747 --> 01:07:26,147
Speaker 8: got going and there was a couple of weird decisions

1300
01:07:26,187 --> 01:07:28,267
Speaker 8: with the Vaar, but they came home in the end.

1301
01:07:28,307 --> 01:07:30,427
Speaker 8: And I think that there's a couple of reasons I

1302
01:07:30,427 --> 01:07:34,227
Speaker 8: think Auckland's going to win today is because I think

1303
01:07:34,827 --> 01:07:37,507
Speaker 8: I found out that Tim Pain wasn't playing on the right.

1304
01:07:38,107 --> 01:07:40,707
Speaker 8: That's Jesse Randall's side, and he's in great form at

1305
01:07:40,747 --> 01:07:42,667
Speaker 8: the moment. He might have struggled a little bit against

1306
01:07:42,667 --> 01:07:47,107
Speaker 8: that that Sydney defender Grant, who's a very experienced guy's

1307
01:07:47,107 --> 01:07:47,907
Speaker 8: been to the World Cup.

1308
01:07:48,147 --> 01:07:49,147
Speaker 13: But I don't think he's going to.

1309
01:07:49,067 --> 01:07:51,187
Speaker 8: Struggle too much today. He'll be a real danger. And

1310
01:07:51,227 --> 01:07:55,507
Speaker 8: I think that Cosgrove not being there sometimes, Jason, when

1311
01:07:55,507 --> 01:07:57,547
Speaker 8: you're bring in a tall center forward is good in

1312
01:07:57,587 --> 01:08:01,827
Speaker 8: the air. Sometimes without thinking, players subconsciously start thinking, wow,

1313
01:08:01,947 --> 01:08:04,147
Speaker 8: we'll go down, we'll go down near the flank and

1314
01:08:04,147 --> 01:08:06,587
Speaker 8: we'll just throw across as you know, and you forget

1315
01:08:07,187 --> 01:08:12,667
Speaker 8: the nice build up. And whenever Auckland uses the lucky Brook,

1316
01:08:12,947 --> 01:08:15,667
Speaker 8: especially when he's a midfield, their build up is always

1317
01:08:15,787 --> 01:08:18,107
Speaker 8: nice and neat and tidy, rather than slinging it over

1318
01:08:18,147 --> 01:08:19,907
Speaker 8: to a tall set of forward. I think May will

1319
01:08:19,947 --> 01:08:22,587
Speaker 8: probably come in today and he's got a tight turning

1320
01:08:23,747 --> 01:08:26,467
Speaker 8: circle and he loves to shoot. He doesn't always like

1321
01:08:26,507 --> 01:08:28,187
Speaker 8: the past, but he loves to shoot on that left

1322
01:08:28,187 --> 01:08:30,987
Speaker 8: fot and that could be a different problem from them

1323
01:08:31,027 --> 01:08:32,587
Speaker 8: to solve. And I'll tell you the other thing I

1324
01:08:32,747 --> 01:08:35,307
Speaker 8: like to make Auckland favorites is if you look at

1325
01:08:35,307 --> 01:08:39,627
Speaker 8: the back four, the two center backs are pragmatic, right

1326
01:08:39,947 --> 01:08:42,147
Speaker 8: Pinaker in that and Hall, they'll put their foot through

1327
01:08:42,187 --> 01:08:45,187
Speaker 8: the ball, you know, when there's any danger lurking anywhere,

1328
01:08:45,227 --> 01:08:47,587
Speaker 8: they'll put their foot through the ball like Virgil van Dytwood,

1329
01:08:47,907 --> 01:08:51,147
Speaker 8: you know. And the two fullbacks are really the creative

1330
01:08:51,187 --> 01:08:54,627
Speaker 8: passes from the back, whereas it Taliano, God bless him.

1331
01:08:55,147 --> 01:08:57,227
Speaker 8: He plays the game the right way and his attitude

1332
01:08:57,267 --> 01:08:59,587
Speaker 8: is great. But he's got three center backs who are

1333
01:08:59,627 --> 01:09:03,187
Speaker 8: all fairly young, and they've got this dynamics sort of

1334
01:09:03,507 --> 01:09:05,027
Speaker 8: we have to play them all out from the back,

1335
01:09:05,107 --> 01:09:08,107
Speaker 8: no matter what sort of defensive pressure we're under type

1336
01:09:08,107 --> 01:09:11,067
Speaker 8: of situation. And they're not pragmatic, and they're playing to

1337
01:09:11,627 --> 01:09:14,627
Speaker 8: the playing to instructions. They understand that and they like

1338
01:09:14,667 --> 01:09:16,627
Speaker 8: to work in with a goalkeeper where they're passing around

1339
01:09:16,667 --> 01:09:19,067
Speaker 8: on their own said, I understand that. But I think

1340
01:09:19,147 --> 01:09:22,627
Speaker 8: Auclan's Stevie Korrug has got his center backs being a

1341
01:09:22,627 --> 01:09:25,067
Speaker 8: lot more pragmatic and they just get rid of the danger.

1342
01:09:25,187 --> 01:09:27,467
Speaker 8: It's gone, it's out of the way. We'll set up.

1343
01:09:27,667 --> 01:09:30,547
Speaker 8: And I think we saw that when they had a

1344
01:09:30,547 --> 01:09:33,387
Speaker 8: player sent off in the other game and they all

1345
01:09:33,387 --> 01:09:35,187
Speaker 8: of a sudden, all they did was replace the center

1346
01:09:35,187 --> 01:09:37,907
Speaker 8: back with another one, and they played pragmatic the rest

1347
01:09:37,947 --> 01:09:39,627
Speaker 8: of the game and they held on and I think

1348
01:09:39,747 --> 01:09:41,267
Speaker 8: that's why Aukland's going to win today.

1349
01:09:41,587 --> 01:09:43,787
Speaker 3: All right, Derek, God analysis is always from you, mate,

1350
01:09:43,827 --> 01:09:45,507
Speaker 3: and you did right about the center backs. Yeah, sometimes

1351
01:09:45,507 --> 01:09:47,547
Speaker 3: it's done. The wrong with getting rid of it, nothing

1352
01:09:47,587 --> 01:09:49,747
Speaker 3: wrong with clearing your lines. You don't always have to

1353
01:09:49,747 --> 01:09:52,387
Speaker 3: play fancy stuff in the back. Thanks Derek, thanks for

1354
01:09:52,467 --> 01:09:55,547
Speaker 3: your call. He's Gngkloer Taliano, coach of the Phoenix. I

1355
01:09:55,587 --> 01:09:57,587
Speaker 3: asked him during the week if he had to manage

1356
01:09:57,867 --> 01:10:00,587
Speaker 3: his players emotions ahead of days like this.

1357
01:10:04,347 --> 01:10:08,747
Speaker 20: I think, you know, someone like Z for example, in

1358
01:10:08,787 --> 01:10:11,507
Speaker 20: the last game, copped a lot of attention, but I

1359
01:10:11,507 --> 01:10:13,747
Speaker 20: think it was more the frustration with the refereeing decisions

1360
01:10:13,747 --> 01:10:17,307
Speaker 20: that were going against him. You know, those are the

1361
01:10:17,347 --> 01:10:21,107
Speaker 20: things I can't really manage, you know, before a game.

1362
01:10:21,547 --> 01:10:24,707
Speaker 20: But again, I think the group is maturing slowly and

1363
01:10:24,707 --> 01:10:29,587
Speaker 20: they're realizing that even with inconsistencies with refereeing, inconsistencies with

1364
01:10:30,427 --> 01:10:34,067
Speaker 20: how the games fluctuate, that they have to hold themselves

1365
01:10:34,067 --> 01:10:36,747
Speaker 20: to account and have to be accountable on all their actions,

1366
01:10:36,787 --> 01:10:39,227
Speaker 20: and that's being mature, you know, from a mental aspect

1367
01:10:39,227 --> 01:10:39,587
Speaker 20: as well.

1368
01:10:40,027 --> 01:10:42,387
Speaker 19: So we're starting to see that with the team.

1369
01:10:42,507 --> 01:10:44,627
Speaker 20: I think, you know, we've had I think four games

1370
01:10:44,667 --> 01:10:48,467
Speaker 20: now where we've come back from a from a two

1371
01:10:48,467 --> 01:10:51,907
Speaker 20: goal deficit, and they've shown the maturity and they're slowly,

1372
01:10:51,987 --> 01:10:55,187
Speaker 20: slowly maturing as a group.

1373
01:10:55,467 --> 01:10:56,067
Speaker 19: In some ways.

1374
01:10:56,107 --> 01:10:58,867
Speaker 3: Could you ask them to channel the emotion and to

1375
01:10:58,947 --> 01:11:01,467
Speaker 3: getting onto the onto the front foot and was likely

1376
01:11:01,507 --> 01:11:03,867
Speaker 3: to be a Philly robust contest.

1377
01:11:05,507 --> 01:11:07,667
Speaker 20: You can talk all the plans, you can talk all

1378
01:11:07,707 --> 01:11:09,587
Speaker 20: the tactics, you can talk all the intention, but the

1379
01:11:09,587 --> 01:11:13,827
Speaker 20: game itself has its own dynamic. So I don't think

1380
01:11:13,907 --> 01:11:16,587
Speaker 20: a group goes into it thinking one particular way and

1381
01:11:16,587 --> 01:11:19,187
Speaker 20: it's going to pan out. They have to be what's

1382
01:11:19,187 --> 01:11:22,187
Speaker 20: the word, flexible and mentally resilient. And I think that

1383
01:11:24,027 --> 01:11:27,507
Speaker 20: you know, when you talk about emotion, how you navigate

1384
01:11:27,507 --> 01:11:31,507
Speaker 20: through a game. You can plan, but ever really comes

1385
01:11:31,547 --> 01:11:33,387
Speaker 20: down to the occasion, and it comes down to really

1386
01:11:33,427 --> 01:11:35,027
Speaker 20: the ones that can stay in the moment the longest.

1387
01:11:35,507 --> 01:11:37,187
Speaker 3: Some games just feel bigger than others. I don't know,

1388
01:11:37,227 --> 01:11:39,827
Speaker 3: maybe it's not the same inside the team, outside the team,

1389
01:11:39,827 --> 01:11:42,707
Speaker 3: it certainly does mis tomorrow just about winning this game

1390
01:11:42,747 --> 01:11:43,747
Speaker 3: in any way that you can.

1391
01:11:44,147 --> 01:11:46,627
Speaker 19: Of course, every game is like that, especially this one.

1392
01:11:47,227 --> 01:11:50,787
Speaker 20: You know, everyone talks about like philosophy and how you

1393
01:11:50,827 --> 01:11:55,347
Speaker 20: play performance and all those things. They're great marketers, but ultimately,

1394
01:11:55,387 --> 01:11:57,427
Speaker 20: you know, we're here to win. We're getting to the

1395
01:11:57,627 --> 01:12:01,467
Speaker 20: pointy end of the season, and irrespective whether it's Auckland

1396
01:12:01,547 --> 01:12:04,187
Speaker 20: or whether it's Sydney or you know, Wanderers, we have

1397
01:12:04,267 --> 01:12:06,027
Speaker 20: to win. Like we're getting to a stage now where

1398
01:12:06,027 --> 01:12:07,827
Speaker 20: the see in now every game means something.

1399
01:12:08,187 --> 01:12:09,787
Speaker 19: So this is like an early Grand viinyl.

1400
01:12:09,947 --> 01:12:13,787
Speaker 20: So but everything else with the Derby, you know, comes

1401
01:12:13,787 --> 01:12:16,467
Speaker 20: with its own narrative around it, like we can't control that.

1402
01:12:16,587 --> 01:12:18,627
Speaker 20: But the boys are up for the game and they're

1403
01:12:18,627 --> 01:12:20,267
Speaker 20: going to give one hundred percent and that for me

1404
01:12:20,347 --> 01:12:21,347
Speaker 20: is the most important thing.

1405
01:12:21,387 --> 01:12:23,187
Speaker 19: And that we don't you know, do I wondering?

1406
01:12:23,387 --> 01:12:26,387
Speaker 3: I just want to start pate when he was coming.

1407
01:12:26,467 --> 01:12:29,387
Speaker 3: I'm sure you make plans to accommodate him within your system.

1408
01:12:29,787 --> 01:12:32,907
Speaker 3: You don't ever play really similar Tom with him gone.

1409
01:12:32,987 --> 01:12:35,027
Speaker 3: So you had to throw out a bunch of notes

1410
01:12:35,027 --> 01:12:35,627
Speaker 3: and said.

1411
01:12:36,307 --> 01:12:40,827
Speaker 19: Not really, I still have I still have standard. He's adjusting.

1412
01:12:40,867 --> 01:12:42,387
Speaker 20: It's going to take a little bit more time for

1413
01:12:42,467 --> 01:12:45,307
Speaker 20: him to to understand the league. You know, we had

1414
01:12:45,347 --> 01:12:47,787
Speaker 20: a good conversation after the Wanderers game. Didn't realize how

1415
01:12:47,867 --> 01:12:49,947
Speaker 20: intense the A League was in terms of pressing and

1416
01:12:50,067 --> 01:12:51,107
Speaker 20: recoveries and so on.

1417
01:12:52,067 --> 01:12:53,707
Speaker 19: But I have Rumi Najerie.

1418
01:12:54,787 --> 01:12:59,947
Speaker 20: You know, for me, if every player had the same

1419
01:12:59,947 --> 01:13:01,907
Speaker 20: mentality as Rami, we wouldn't lose a game.

1420
01:13:01,947 --> 01:13:03,987
Speaker 19: He's he's a warrior. You know, he's a winner.

1421
01:13:04,307 --> 01:13:07,347
Speaker 20: And you know, again, I think he just needs more

1422
01:13:07,387 --> 01:13:10,787
Speaker 20: games and we can see a bit more output for him.

1423
01:13:10,787 --> 01:13:15,147
Speaker 20: But you know, he's very similar to Sarpred. Obviously, Sarprid

1424
01:13:15,227 --> 01:13:17,267
Speaker 20: has more distinguished career in terms of like you know,

1425
01:13:17,347 --> 01:13:19,747
Speaker 20: club level and so on. But we've got those players

1426
01:13:19,747 --> 01:13:21,667
Speaker 20: and the young players as well coming through. You know,

1427
01:13:21,707 --> 01:13:26,667
Speaker 20: they have flashes of the same sort of you know ability,

1428
01:13:26,707 --> 01:13:28,947
Speaker 20: but it's just more about the consistency and making sure

1429
01:13:28,987 --> 01:13:32,747
Speaker 20: that they can perform in a consistent basins in this environment.

1430
01:13:33,467 --> 01:13:35,187
Speaker 20: But I have enough players there that we can be

1431
01:13:35,267 --> 01:13:37,627
Speaker 20: very dangerous. And you saw like Evan, like Corbyn coming

1432
01:13:37,627 --> 01:13:40,067
Speaker 20: off the bench, Nicola Mille using he is coming off

1433
01:13:40,107 --> 01:13:40,427
Speaker 20: the bench.

1434
01:13:40,467 --> 01:13:42,267
Speaker 19: You know, there's a good players to come off and

1435
01:13:42,427 --> 01:13:42,987
Speaker 19: change a game.

1436
01:13:43,147 --> 01:13:46,547
Speaker 3: That is John Caloertaliano, head coach of Wellington Phoenix. Five

1437
01:13:46,547 --> 01:13:50,267
Speaker 3: o'clock this afternoon, cross on techs Piney Auckland improving each game,

1438
01:13:50,307 --> 01:13:53,067
Speaker 3: Wellington's still vulnerable in the final third. Auckland to win

1439
01:13:53,147 --> 01:13:55,747
Speaker 3: three or four to one for the punters over two

1440
01:13:55,787 --> 01:13:58,587
Speaker 3: and a half goals. Yeah, well that that stands up

1441
01:13:58,627 --> 01:14:03,467
Speaker 3: in terms of history. Every Darby has had at least

1442
01:14:03,507 --> 01:14:06,027
Speaker 3: two goals, and four of the five have had three

1443
01:14:06,107 --> 01:14:08,387
Speaker 3: or more, so that's not a bad bet. Chris, You've

1444
01:14:08,387 --> 01:14:11,587
Speaker 3: obviously done your research. Nice work made. We'll review it

1445
01:14:11,627 --> 01:14:14,667
Speaker 3: whatever happens tomorrow here at Weekend Sport ate anyway from two,

1446
01:14:14,707 --> 01:14:17,067
Speaker 3: take a break, come back across the Tasman. We all go.

1447
01:14:17,147 --> 01:14:18,307
Speaker 3: Adam Peacock after.

1448
01:14:18,147 --> 01:14:23,147
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1449
01:14:23,347 --> 01:14:27,267
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Speaker 3: There'd be just gone one forty five on Saturday afternoons

1452
01:14:32,347 --> 01:14:34,907
Speaker 3: we crossed the Tasman catch up with our Australian correspondent

1453
01:14:34,947 --> 01:14:37,427
Speaker 3: Adam Peacock, who joined us now we are. We chatted

1454
01:14:37,467 --> 01:14:39,267
Speaker 3: a bit about the cricket last week. You didn't really

1455
01:14:39,267 --> 01:14:41,347
Speaker 3: want to chat about it then the T twenty cricket

1456
01:14:41,427 --> 01:14:43,427
Speaker 3: of course, shall we are? Should we talk about it today?

1457
01:14:43,427 --> 01:14:46,027
Speaker 3: Do you feel like talking about the cricket today?

1458
01:14:46,547 --> 01:14:47,347
Speaker 21: Ah?

1459
01:14:47,547 --> 01:14:52,347
Speaker 6: No, Yeah, they got what they deserved in not making

1460
01:14:52,347 --> 01:14:56,307
Speaker 6: the Super Rise, but they smashed Demand by nine wickets overnight.

1461
01:14:56,427 --> 01:14:59,307
Speaker 6: The I dare say that would have been the most

1462
01:14:59,547 --> 01:15:03,387
Speaker 6: due celebration of an Australian men's cricket team victory on

1463
01:15:03,387 --> 01:15:08,867
Speaker 6: the international stage in recent memory, if not ever. Yeah,

1464
01:15:09,027 --> 01:15:13,227
Speaker 6: they go away from Sri Lanka having not got anywhere

1465
01:15:13,227 --> 01:15:16,467
Speaker 6: near where they wanted to unfortunately. So yeah, in the end,

1466
01:15:16,547 --> 01:15:19,347
Speaker 6: Zimbabwe and trying to deserve to go through, especially Zimbabwe

1467
01:15:19,427 --> 01:15:22,627
Speaker 6: who beat Sri Lanka the other day, so they're obviously

1468
01:15:22,627 --> 01:15:23,747
Speaker 6: a contender for the whole team.

1469
01:15:23,907 --> 01:15:26,987
Speaker 3: Yeah, and well in Sri Lanka as well. So yeah,

1470
01:15:27,027 --> 01:15:29,627
Speaker 3: they've obviously mastered the conditions and I guess what, the

1471
01:15:29,667 --> 01:15:32,107
Speaker 3: shorter formats the teams come closer together. But you'd still

1472
01:15:32,107 --> 01:15:34,627
Speaker 3: expect Australia to be there. Have you been able to

1473
01:15:34,627 --> 01:15:38,747
Speaker 3: crystallize you know what didn't go well? Why they haven't

1474
01:15:39,467 --> 01:15:42,107
Speaker 3: delivered on what they always deliver on at tournaments.

1475
01:15:42,987 --> 01:15:46,427
Speaker 21: Yeah, I just didn't play well. If Steve Smith was there.

1476
01:15:46,467 --> 01:15:52,507
Speaker 6: Maybe it's different, maybe the bowling was exposed. Yeah, and

1477
01:15:52,907 --> 01:15:56,267
Speaker 6: just tactically couldn't stay on top of it unfortunately. And

1478
01:15:56,427 --> 01:15:59,187
Speaker 6: Mitch marsh By all the planning was that Mitch marsh

1479
01:15:59,307 --> 01:16:02,347
Speaker 6: is the captain, he opens the batting, he gets hurt

1480
01:16:02,387 --> 01:16:04,307
Speaker 6: a couple days before the first game, and then it

1481
01:16:04,347 --> 01:16:07,347
Speaker 6: becomes a bit of a problem. It felt like from

1482
01:16:07,427 --> 01:16:09,747
Speaker 6: that moment on they're all playing catch up. Tim David

1483
01:16:09,787 --> 01:16:12,667
Speaker 6: wasn't available for the first game, so yeah, it's just

1484
01:16:12,707 --> 01:16:14,987
Speaker 6: a bit clunky the whole thing. You've got a couple

1485
01:16:14,987 --> 01:16:17,267
Speaker 6: of guys out of for him, and over here Cam

1486
01:16:17,347 --> 01:16:20,267
Speaker 6: Green is the the poster boy for coppying it when

1487
01:16:20,307 --> 01:16:22,947
Speaker 6: things go wrong with Australian cricket and he's in the

1488
01:16:22,947 --> 01:16:23,707
Speaker 6: firing line again.

1489
01:16:24,747 --> 01:16:27,387
Speaker 3: So Steve Smith went over eventually, didn't he did? He

1490
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Speaker 3: did he play or not?

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Speaker 6: My blurry eyes this morning when I got up, I

1492
01:16:31,627 --> 01:16:34,067
Speaker 6: haven't had another look at the scorecard. I don't think

1493
01:16:34,067 --> 01:16:37,267
Speaker 6: he did. I'm pretty sure they stuck with the team

1494
01:16:37,347 --> 01:16:41,307
Speaker 6: that got themselves into this situation. So yeah, Steve or

1495
01:16:41,307 --> 01:16:45,747
Speaker 6: Steve Smith gets out of the whole escapade is a

1496
01:16:45,787 --> 01:16:48,547
Speaker 6: bucket loaded frequent flying points.

1497
01:16:48,787 --> 01:16:50,387
Speaker 3: That's all I can think of, Well, you're right here,

1498
01:16:50,427 --> 01:16:51,947
Speaker 3: so I've just checked the scorecard and you're right he

1499
01:16:51,987 --> 01:16:55,547
Speaker 3: didn't play, so so yeah, just a just a round

1500
01:16:55,587 --> 01:16:58,387
Speaker 3: trip up and back for Steve Smith and a few

1501
01:16:58,467 --> 01:17:00,827
Speaker 3: more stamps in his passport if they still do that

1502
01:17:00,867 --> 01:17:04,627
Speaker 3: sort of thing. Alright, let's stay overseas. Winter Olympics. Six

1503
01:17:04,667 --> 01:17:07,547
Speaker 3: medals as we speak today. Your three goal to silver

1504
01:17:07,587 --> 01:17:09,947
Speaker 3: and a bronze. It's a pretty good haul, isn't it.

1505
01:17:10,707 --> 01:17:15,667
Speaker 6: Yeah, best ever, that's our most successful games ever. So yeah.

1506
01:17:16,027 --> 01:17:21,667
Speaker 6: The most recent medal was an aerial scheme silver medal,

1507
01:17:22,147 --> 01:17:25,547
Speaker 6: so Daniel Scott and yeah, that's our fifth medal in

1508
01:17:25,627 --> 01:17:28,067
Speaker 6: that event. So we've always been pretty good at that event.

1509
01:17:28,147 --> 01:17:30,787
Speaker 6: It's pretty much the events where we can, yeah we can,

1510
01:17:31,027 --> 01:17:33,907
Speaker 6: we need snow time and they go overseas and play,

1511
01:17:34,027 --> 01:17:37,747
Speaker 6: but they can also train it without needing snow that

1512
01:17:38,147 --> 01:17:41,827
Speaker 6: I know. For aerials, they have this jumping facility up

1513
01:17:41,867 --> 01:17:44,547
Speaker 6: in Brisbane where it's basically water based, so they can

1514
01:17:45,147 --> 01:17:48,827
Speaker 6: do all everything there is to do aeral skating. So yeah,

1515
01:17:48,947 --> 01:17:51,907
Speaker 6: just facilities are narrowed focus on certain events, like we're

1516
01:17:51,947 --> 01:17:53,787
Speaker 6: not trying to get together on an ice hockey team

1517
01:17:53,787 --> 01:17:56,227
Speaker 6: and compete on the world stage. We select the events,

1518
01:17:56,227 --> 01:17:58,747
Speaker 6: we want to fund them and do well in them.

1519
01:17:58,787 --> 01:17:59,987
Speaker 6: So how the care we's going?

1520
01:18:00,067 --> 01:18:03,227
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, very similar extually, we had higher hopes I

1521
01:18:03,227 --> 01:18:06,027
Speaker 3: think to have our best ever games, which would have

1522
01:18:06,107 --> 01:18:08,827
Speaker 3: been all medals. We're going to end up with three.

1523
01:18:09,027 --> 01:18:11,027
Speaker 3: So but some of that sort of stuff. We're not

1524
01:18:11,027 --> 01:18:13,347
Speaker 3: putting an ice hockey team together. There's no New Zealand's

1525
01:18:13,547 --> 01:18:16,707
Speaker 3: curling team or anything like that. But in snowboarding and

1526
01:18:16,747 --> 01:18:19,587
Speaker 3: free skiing, you know, we get good bang for our bucks, so,

1527
01:18:20,347 --> 01:18:22,067
Speaker 3: you know, similar to you, I guess we don't have

1528
01:18:22,107 --> 01:18:25,947
Speaker 3: the you know, the conditions you know, all year round

1529
01:18:25,987 --> 01:18:28,987
Speaker 3: to allow our top athletes to train, et cetera. But yeah,

1530
01:18:28,987 --> 01:18:30,427
Speaker 3: I think we punched above our weight when it comes

1531
01:18:30,427 --> 01:18:31,307
Speaker 3: to snowsports.

1532
01:18:31,827 --> 01:18:33,987
Speaker 6: Absolutely. And also another gold medal, the son on the

1533
01:18:33,987 --> 01:18:38,427
Speaker 6: medal tally was for Danika Mason, the TV presenter, who's

1534
01:18:38,467 --> 01:18:41,947
Speaker 6: a great person. She's good fun. But she decided to

1535
01:18:41,947 --> 01:18:43,827
Speaker 6: go on air on our morning Practfast show the other

1536
01:18:43,907 --> 01:18:47,307
Speaker 6: night other day and there's nighttime over there, and I

1537
01:18:47,347 --> 01:18:47,947
Speaker 6: think she went.

1538
01:18:47,867 --> 01:18:50,787
Speaker 21: To lunch but didn't eat lunch. She just asked for

1539
01:18:50,787 --> 01:18:52,907
Speaker 21: a bottle of vino maybe, and then just kept going.

1540
01:18:53,307 --> 01:18:56,507
Speaker 21: I'm not sure, but yeah, she got some headlines and

1541
01:18:56,547 --> 01:18:59,267
Speaker 21: even the Prime Minister comment and so that's I did

1542
01:18:59,387 --> 01:19:02,307
Speaker 21: make the call over here that if the Prime Minister

1543
01:19:02,507 --> 01:19:04,347
Speaker 21: is able to kind of comment on things like that

1544
01:19:04,427 --> 01:19:06,147
Speaker 21: and have a chuckle about them, it means we're living

1545
01:19:06,187 --> 01:19:08,067
Speaker 21: in society that's not going too bad.

1546
01:19:08,347 --> 01:19:12,467
Speaker 6: You know, we've got our issues, but that's one of

1547
01:19:12,467 --> 01:19:16,147
Speaker 6: the topics of the day. That's kind of capturing.

1548
01:19:15,707 --> 01:19:20,267
Speaker 21: The nature nation's attention. We're a pretty good society stands.

1549
01:19:20,347 --> 01:19:22,427
Speaker 3: Couldn't agree more, couldn't agree more. We had a tuckle

1550
01:19:22,467 --> 01:19:25,427
Speaker 3: over here about that footage as well. Finally, today the

1551
01:19:25,467 --> 01:19:28,827
Speaker 3: Matilda's squad, your women's football squad named for the upcoming

1552
01:19:28,907 --> 01:19:32,987
Speaker 3: Asian Cup which is being hosted in Australia. Decent squad.

1553
01:19:33,027 --> 01:19:35,547
Speaker 3: Any surprises, No, not really.

1554
01:19:35,627 --> 01:19:36,427
Speaker 6: It was twenty six.

1555
01:19:36,747 --> 01:19:38,627
Speaker 21: They've gone to twenty six of these big tournaments now

1556
01:19:38,667 --> 01:19:42,267
Speaker 21: instead of twenty three, so there's no real hard luck stories.

1557
01:19:43,707 --> 01:19:46,187
Speaker 6: I think he's gone pretty well with what everyone thought.

1558
01:19:46,267 --> 01:19:49,387
Speaker 6: Joe Montemira, the coach, he's got a lot of respect

1559
01:19:49,387 --> 01:19:52,307
Speaker 6: in the group, so that's great. We've moved on from

1560
01:19:52,307 --> 01:19:54,227
Speaker 6: making a semi time in the World Cup We've found

1561
01:19:54,267 --> 01:19:56,387
Speaker 6: someone that hopefully is going to get the most out

1562
01:19:56,427 --> 01:19:57,267
Speaker 6: of this group's players.

1563
01:19:57,347 --> 01:19:59,987
Speaker 21: Very experienced. For the group of players, the key is

1564
01:20:00,347 --> 01:20:02,787
Speaker 21: that a few of them are out of season. They're

1565
01:20:02,787 --> 01:20:04,907
Speaker 21: playing in America, so they haven't started their season yet.

1566
01:20:05,267 --> 01:20:07,907
Speaker 6: Others are not playing the consistent minutes they want to

1567
01:20:08,147 --> 01:20:12,027
Speaker 6: at European clubs. Sam Kerr is still being managed.

1568
01:20:11,747 --> 01:20:14,587
Speaker 21: Coming back having a role she plays. The key for

1569
01:20:14,667 --> 01:20:15,587
Speaker 21: me is Mary Fowler.

1570
01:20:15,667 --> 01:20:15,787
Speaker 15: Lot.

1571
01:20:15,867 --> 01:20:17,227
Speaker 6: We could be playing.

1572
01:20:16,947 --> 01:20:18,987
Speaker 21: Teams who are just going to sit off us, and

1573
01:20:19,027 --> 01:20:20,867
Speaker 21: she's the one that's got the magic in it boots

1574
01:20:21,107 --> 01:20:23,387
Speaker 21: to be able to unlock all that. She's barely played

1575
01:20:23,427 --> 01:20:25,667
Speaker 21: at all, say Lot twenty minutes after coming back from

1576
01:20:25,667 --> 01:20:29,627
Speaker 21: an ACL. So it'll be about minutes management for some

1577
01:20:29,667 --> 01:20:32,947
Speaker 21: of our key players in the group stage. But that

1578
01:20:32,987 --> 01:20:34,867
Speaker 21: can trip you up sometimes as well if you're going

1579
01:20:34,907 --> 01:20:36,107
Speaker 21: to get too cute with it.

1580
01:20:36,227 --> 01:20:40,307
Speaker 6: So yeah, intriguing how they manage the situation in all probability.

1581
01:20:40,347 --> 01:20:42,267
Speaker 6: We played Japan in the semi finals, so it's all

1582
01:20:42,347 --> 01:20:43,267
Speaker 6: roads lead to that one.

1583
01:20:43,347 --> 01:20:45,707
Speaker 3: Yeah. Indeed, we will talk about it more as the

1584
01:20:45,747 --> 01:20:49,787
Speaker 3: tournament gets underway next month and across March. But is

1585
01:20:49,867 --> 01:20:52,907
Speaker 3: there I mean, is there a good interest. The Matilda's

1586
01:20:52,907 --> 01:20:55,227
Speaker 3: always seemed to sell out stadiums wherever they go. Is

1587
01:20:55,227 --> 01:20:56,987
Speaker 3: it going to be similar for the Asian Cup?

1588
01:20:57,747 --> 01:20:57,987
Speaker 19: Yeah?

1589
01:20:58,107 --> 01:21:00,867
Speaker 21: Yeah, for the Matillda's games. Yes. The key for tournaments

1590
01:21:00,867 --> 01:21:03,107
Speaker 21: like this is and you guys experience with the World

1591
01:21:03,187 --> 01:21:05,587
Speaker 21: Cup is that, Okay, if your home nation's not playing,

1592
01:21:05,587 --> 01:21:06,667
Speaker 21: what are you going to do about it? The event

1593
01:21:06,747 --> 01:21:09,027
Speaker 21: around that And if we can get crowds of ten

1594
01:21:09,027 --> 01:21:11,747
Speaker 21: to fifteen thousand at the other games, that's a great result,

1595
01:21:11,747 --> 01:21:15,067
Speaker 21: and I think we will so there'll be enough interest there.

1596
01:21:15,507 --> 01:21:18,747
Speaker 21: But yeah, it's good now like since that World Cup,

1597
01:21:18,787 --> 01:21:23,027
Speaker 21: and iway was women's football is just football, Like it's

1598
01:21:23,067 --> 01:21:26,147
Speaker 21: just interesting to watch football, so I'll watch it. And

1599
01:21:26,187 --> 01:21:29,307
Speaker 21: I think that's broken down a bit as well in

1600
01:21:29,667 --> 01:21:32,467
Speaker 21: a wider sense with people who traditionally would only watch

1601
01:21:32,467 --> 01:21:35,627
Speaker 21: men's football and now they watch women's football because it's football,

1602
01:21:35,667 --> 01:21:38,547
Speaker 21: If that all makes sense, and hopefully that continues for

1603
01:21:38,667 --> 01:21:39,427
Speaker 21: this Asian Cup.

1604
01:21:39,867 --> 01:21:42,147
Speaker 3: Yep. Absolutely, Look we'll be watching over here as well,

1605
01:21:42,147 --> 01:21:45,387
Speaker 3: and I'm seeing how our Australia go as we always do.

1606
01:21:45,467 --> 01:21:47,107
Speaker 3: Good to chat to you, Adam. Enjoy the rest of

1607
01:21:47,107 --> 01:21:49,147
Speaker 3: your weekend, madam. We'll chat again. Next Saturday.

1608
01:21:49,267 --> 01:21:50,987
Speaker 12: Well thanks finding no thank you, Adam.

1609
01:21:50,987 --> 01:21:54,747
Speaker 3: Adam Peacock, Australian correspondent. Every Saturday here on Weekend Sports

1610
01:21:54,747 --> 01:21:55,347
Speaker 3: seven to two.

1611
01:21:56,027 --> 01:22:00,187
Speaker 1: The biggest names and sport are here Weekend Sport with

1612
01:22:00,467 --> 01:22:01,267
Speaker 1: Jason Vine.

1613
01:22:01,467 --> 01:22:02,067
Speaker 19: News talks.

1614
01:22:02,067 --> 01:22:04,387
Speaker 3: They'd be news talks have been week in Sport four

1615
01:22:04,427 --> 01:22:07,547
Speaker 3: to two. After the News at two, superb is our focus.

1616
01:22:07,587 --> 01:22:10,707
Speaker 3: The Hurricanes underway in twenty twenty six day the bye

1617
01:22:10,747 --> 01:22:12,947
Speaker 3: last weekend, of course, but opened their season with a

1618
01:22:13,027 --> 01:22:16,947
Speaker 3: very convincing fifty two points to ten win over Malwana

1619
01:22:16,987 --> 01:22:20,667
Speaker 3: PACIFICA at Sky Stadium last night. Eight tries, including a

1620
01:22:20,707 --> 01:22:23,107
Speaker 3: hat trick to Josh Morby, who has returned to the

1621
01:22:23,147 --> 01:22:27,067
Speaker 3: Hurricanes after a season of playing rugby up in France,

1622
01:22:27,147 --> 01:22:29,627
Speaker 3: so he clearly hit the ground running. How much did

1623
01:22:29,627 --> 01:22:32,387
Speaker 3: he enjoy it? Josh Morby going to join us after two.

1624
01:22:32,387 --> 01:22:34,307
Speaker 3: We'll also chat a little bit about the injury to

1625
01:22:34,307 --> 01:22:37,867
Speaker 3: Bret Cameron, which looks as though it will end his season.

1626
01:22:38,027 --> 01:22:41,307
Speaker 3: No confirmation yet, but Goodness may want a devastating blow

1627
01:22:41,347 --> 01:22:43,747
Speaker 3: for Brett Cameron and for the Hurricane. So super Rugby

1628
01:22:43,787 --> 01:22:45,787
Speaker 3: coming your way. After the News at two.

1629
01:22:46,987 --> 01:22:52,227
Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues. Head

1630
01:22:52,227 --> 01:22:54,907
Speaker 1: off the field, you got a score. It's all on

1631
01:22:54,987 --> 01:22:58,347
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Lyne on your home of Sports

1632
01:22:59,507 --> 01:23:00,267
Speaker 1: US Talks at Me.

1633
01:23:02,667 --> 01:23:04,867
Speaker 3: Sport coming up six and a half past two. Thanks

1634
01:23:04,867 --> 01:23:07,387
Speaker 3: for joining us. We're Here's all three and then Tim

1635
01:23:07,427 --> 01:23:11,547
Speaker 3: Beveridge will take over with the Weekend Collective. Some really

1636
01:23:11,547 --> 01:23:15,907
Speaker 3: interesting super rugby games to come across the weekend tonight

1637
01:23:16,587 --> 01:23:20,187
Speaker 3: just after seven o'clock the Highlanders fresh off there went

1638
01:23:20,267 --> 01:23:24,107
Speaker 3: over the Crusaders. Welcome the Chiefs fresh off there win

1639
01:23:24,627 --> 01:23:28,027
Speaker 3: over the Blues. Five past seven kickoff tonight in that

1640
01:23:28,067 --> 01:23:32,307
Speaker 3: one four commentary on Gold Sport and iHeartRadio, Paul Allison

1641
01:23:32,347 --> 01:23:34,747
Speaker 3: and the team. The Blues are in Western Australia to

1642
01:23:34,787 --> 01:23:36,667
Speaker 3: take on the Force. That game is at nine thirty

1643
01:23:36,707 --> 01:23:40,107
Speaker 3: five and then tomorrow afternoon at dear Old A pot

1644
01:23:40,187 --> 01:23:44,107
Speaker 3: Projects Stadium. They're still using it until Ansach weekend. Anyway.

1645
01:23:44,147 --> 01:23:46,427
Speaker 3: It's the Crusaders looking at bounds back from that defeat

1646
01:23:46,987 --> 01:23:49,907
Speaker 3: to the Highlanders. They welcome the Brumbies for Sunday afternoon

1647
01:23:49,907 --> 01:23:53,627
Speaker 3: football three point thirty five tomorrow afternoon. Josh Borby's going

1648
01:23:53,667 --> 01:23:55,267
Speaker 3: to chat to us in a moment he was part

1649
01:23:55,267 --> 01:23:57,507
Speaker 3: of a hurricane side that did a bit of a

1650
01:23:57,547 --> 01:24:01,027
Speaker 3: number on Mowana Pacifica last night. I mentioned Brett Cameron's injury.

1651
01:24:01,027 --> 01:24:03,787
Speaker 3: Someone's also reminded me, not that I need to remind him,

1652
01:24:03,787 --> 01:24:07,267
Speaker 3: but have asked about William Harvelli's injury as well. Yes,

1653
01:24:07,307 --> 01:24:11,987
Speaker 3: he too was carried off. Less information available out of

1654
01:24:12,027 --> 01:24:15,707
Speaker 3: Mona Pacifica than there was out of the hurricanes regarding

1655
01:24:15,747 --> 01:24:18,307
Speaker 3: Bret Cameron's knee injury, But yes, we'll certainly see what

1656
01:24:18,307 --> 01:24:20,227
Speaker 3: we can find out about William Harvilly, who I thought,

1657
01:24:20,227 --> 01:24:21,947
Speaker 3: as I said at the start of the show, looked

1658
01:24:21,987 --> 01:24:24,707
Speaker 3: really really good when he came off the bench last

1659
01:24:24,787 --> 01:24:27,827
Speaker 3: night to add a bit of spark and unfortunately was

1660
01:24:27,827 --> 01:24:29,907
Speaker 3: involved in a collision with one of his own players,

1661
01:24:29,947 --> 01:24:33,747
Speaker 3: and they were very very cautious around making sure he

1662
01:24:33,827 --> 01:24:37,267
Speaker 3: was stabilized. Whether it was a concussion perhaps or a

1663
01:24:37,347 --> 01:24:40,067
Speaker 3: neck injury, We're not sure, but we will certainly keep

1664
01:24:40,107 --> 01:24:45,187
Speaker 3: eyes on that for you as well, AI its impact

1665
01:24:45,187 --> 01:24:48,587
Speaker 3: on our lives is unquestioned, right and as this is

1666
01:24:48,587 --> 01:24:50,987
Speaker 3: a sports show, I wonder how many of you are

1667
01:24:51,067 --> 01:24:54,427
Speaker 3: using AI when it comes to sport, particularly those of

1668
01:24:54,467 --> 01:24:57,747
Speaker 3: you who are coaching sport. Are you using AI to

1669
01:24:57,827 --> 01:25:02,707
Speaker 3: help you in that regard. Wayne Goldsmith, international coaching expert

1670
01:25:02,747 --> 01:25:06,667
Speaker 3: and out coaching guru here on Weekend Sport, going to

1671
01:25:06,707 --> 01:25:09,267
Speaker 3: join us this out to give us some tips perhaps

1672
01:25:09,347 --> 01:25:12,587
Speaker 3: on how best to use AI if you are involved

1673
01:25:12,707 --> 01:25:16,667
Speaker 3: in coaching, because it can help to save you a

1674
01:25:16,707 --> 01:25:19,587
Speaker 3: heck of a lot of time. It cannot, I don't

1675
01:25:19,627 --> 01:25:24,187
Speaker 3: think anyway, Wayne might disagree. It cannot replace the connection

1676
01:25:24,307 --> 01:25:28,707
Speaker 3: that a coach has with a player who they are coaching,

1677
01:25:28,787 --> 01:25:31,547
Speaker 3: but it can certainly help with a lot of the admin,

1678
01:25:32,027 --> 01:25:35,427
Speaker 3: the session planning, that sort of thing. So Wayne Goldsmith

1679
01:25:35,427 --> 01:25:37,867
Speaker 3: with a bit more on that coming up later in

1680
01:25:37,907 --> 01:25:39,867
Speaker 3: the hour. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

1681
01:25:39,867 --> 01:25:42,507
Speaker 3: our phone number. Nineteen ninety two is our text line.

1682
01:25:42,667 --> 01:25:44,547
Speaker 3: You can get in touch whenever you like. Just gone

1683
01:25:44,587 --> 01:25:46,787
Speaker 3: nine past two, as we always do, and around about

1684
01:25:46,827 --> 01:25:48,907
Speaker 3: this time on Weekend Sport though, we like to catch

1685
01:25:48,907 --> 01:25:50,947
Speaker 3: you up with the things that might have escaped your attention,

1686
01:25:51,107 --> 01:25:53,827
Speaker 3: some of the stuff that you may have missed in

1687
01:25:53,907 --> 01:25:57,627
Speaker 3: case you missed it. Australia are coming home from the

1688
01:25:57,667 --> 01:26:00,067
Speaker 3: T twenty World Cup, but they've finished with a very

1689
01:26:00,707 --> 01:26:03,227
Speaker 3: very straightforward win over Oman.

1690
01:26:05,747 --> 01:26:10,067
Speaker 10: Pump down the Ground Australia absolutely belt them on.

1691
01:26:11,467 --> 01:26:13,827
Speaker 6: They do it with nine wiggers to spare of just

1692
01:26:13,947 --> 01:26:15,267
Speaker 6: nine point four overs.

1693
01:26:15,307 --> 01:26:18,107
Speaker 7: It's a winning end.

1694
01:26:19,867 --> 01:26:21,467
Speaker 18: Been an early end for the Australian.

1695
01:26:21,867 --> 01:26:25,187
Speaker 3: They're off home, not making the super rights. The Supercars

1696
01:26:25,267 --> 01:26:28,707
Speaker 3: season is under way. A strong start for Brock Feenie

1697
01:26:28,867 --> 01:26:29,507
Speaker 3: in Sydney.

1698
01:26:29,907 --> 01:26:32,227
Speaker 1: Moment to see the Brock peedick, but this light his

1699
01:26:32,227 --> 01:26:33,307
Speaker 1: way out of the last corner.

1700
01:26:34,467 --> 01:26:36,707
Speaker 16: He put an adelat in his rearview mirror on you

1701
01:26:36,827 --> 01:26:39,547
Speaker 16: and it's all lights Lord for twenty twenty things.

1702
01:26:39,227 --> 01:26:42,147
Speaker 3: Next to the TV on the whole and you are

1703
01:26:42,187 --> 01:26:44,827
Speaker 3: a legends shaman and staying in New South Wales. The

1704
01:26:44,827 --> 01:26:47,987
Speaker 3: war Retars are two from two and Super Rugby threshing

1705
01:26:47,987 --> 01:26:51,387
Speaker 3: the Drewer thirty six thirteen last night I've never seen it.

1706
01:26:51,627 --> 01:26:52,707
Speaker 3: Rode to Kip behind.

1707
01:26:52,627 --> 01:26:55,027
Speaker 12: Talking to find the lists.

1708
01:26:56,147 --> 01:26:59,427
Speaker 18: What can't this two two?

1709
01:27:01,467 --> 01:27:08,427
Speaker 3: He's kind of second and the wards are this step

1710
01:27:08,507 --> 01:27:12,547
Speaker 3: away is big winners. Ryan Fox in a strong position

1711
01:27:12,707 --> 01:27:15,147
Speaker 3: at the Genesis Golf Invitational.

1712
01:27:15,427 --> 01:27:19,667
Speaker 22: Ryan Fox after the tenth Billy, how much easier ho location?

1713
01:27:20,747 --> 01:27:22,227
Speaker 19: I didn't think it was that easy.

1714
01:27:22,027 --> 01:27:25,987
Speaker 22: But Ryan Fox, it is third, so hell of that

1715
01:27:26,067 --> 01:27:29,267
Speaker 22: remaining for Bertie. Ryan Fox twenty eight of thirty one

1716
01:27:29,307 --> 01:27:31,587
Speaker 22: inside of ten feet so far, I think of twenty

1717
01:27:31,707 --> 01:27:32,547
Speaker 22: nine of thirty two.

1718
01:27:32,707 --> 01:27:35,307
Speaker 3: He's currently tied for eleventh after two rounds. Six shots

1719
01:27:35,347 --> 01:27:37,427
Speaker 3: back from the leap but playing some really good golf.

1720
01:27:37,547 --> 01:27:40,507
Speaker 3: And the Wellington Phoenix women have picked up a crucial

1721
01:27:40,547 --> 01:27:43,627
Speaker 3: point in their bid to try and reclaim top spot

1722
01:27:43,707 --> 01:27:44,947
Speaker 3: in the Women's A League.

1723
01:27:44,987 --> 01:27:46,907
Speaker 23: As link plants are watch on the dribbles, She's going

1724
01:27:46,987 --> 01:27:51,987
Speaker 23: to go for it to Pa Block now Woods, it's

1725
01:27:52,027 --> 01:27:56,867
Speaker 23: the all important equalizer for the Phoenix and for a

1726
01:27:57,027 --> 01:27:59,747
Speaker 23: sight chasing top spot, what a massive points it could be.

1727
01:28:01,427 --> 01:28:05,227
Speaker 23: MICHAELA woods red hot run continues.

1728
01:28:05,547 --> 01:28:10,627
Speaker 1: And Alesia and getting the inside Weekend Sport with Jason

1729
01:28:10,707 --> 01:28:12,107
Speaker 1: Vine News Talks dB.

1730
01:28:12,987 --> 01:28:15,747
Speaker 3: It's just coming up twelve minutes past two year. Crucial

1731
01:28:15,747 --> 01:28:17,427
Speaker 3: point for the Wellington Phoenix woman on the road last

1732
01:28:17,467 --> 01:28:19,107
Speaker 3: night and I've got a break now. It's the international

1733
01:28:19,147 --> 01:28:20,907
Speaker 3: break and it's quite a long break, but maybe a

1734
01:28:20,987 --> 01:28:24,187
Speaker 3: chance to refresh and get some players back from injury.

1735
01:28:24,747 --> 01:28:28,827
Speaker 3: The Hurricanes have thumped Mowana Pacifica fifty two points to

1736
01:28:28,907 --> 01:28:32,387
Speaker 3: ten in their Super Rugby season opener. Eight tries shared

1737
01:28:32,387 --> 01:28:36,027
Speaker 3: between four players, including a hat trick for right winger

1738
01:28:36,107 --> 01:28:38,227
Speaker 3: Josh Moreby out towards.

1739
01:28:38,027 --> 01:28:40,347
Speaker 16: The right Josh Morby, and he does get it and

1740
01:28:40,387 --> 01:28:44,587
Speaker 16: goes into the corner. Josh Borby was yelling for it.

1741
01:28:44,787 --> 01:28:46,947
Speaker 16: Nett Puck was yelling for them to give it to him,

1742
01:28:46,987 --> 01:28:50,427
Speaker 16: and Josh Forby on his return to the Hurricanes, Tot's

1743
01:28:50,467 --> 01:28:53,627
Speaker 16: down in the seventeenth and Larky he could set up

1744
01:28:53,627 --> 01:28:55,347
Speaker 16: figuring on and all four is going to be a

1745
01:28:55,387 --> 01:28:56,347
Speaker 16: first half head trick.

1746
01:28:56,627 --> 01:28:57,787
Speaker 1: And as for the left finger, know.

1747
01:28:57,907 --> 01:29:00,987
Speaker 16: He gives it inside he was inside the dead ball area.

1748
01:29:01,307 --> 01:29:04,627
Speaker 16: He's given it sin scotsh Morby and Morby's gonna.

1749
01:29:04,387 --> 01:29:05,067
Speaker 15: Score the try.

1750
01:29:05,427 --> 01:29:08,107
Speaker 1: Fig the other north so was in the end.

1751
01:29:08,147 --> 01:29:12,627
Speaker 16: Goal area and past the rugby boar. Sullivan goes through

1752
01:29:12,627 --> 01:29:14,867
Speaker 16: a gap heading towards the posts and.

1753
01:29:15,307 --> 01:29:17,707
Speaker 3: Under the post he will go. And it's Josh Morby

1754
01:29:18,147 --> 01:29:20,347
Speaker 3: who took to pass from Sullivan.

1755
01:29:20,307 --> 01:29:23,307
Speaker 16: And Josh Morby well the hat Trigger tries.

1756
01:29:23,347 --> 01:29:25,707
Speaker 3: Hat Trigger tries indeed for Josh Moreby as part of

1757
01:29:25,787 --> 01:29:28,707
Speaker 3: the fifty to ten win over more WAA Pacifica to

1758
01:29:28,827 --> 01:29:31,427
Speaker 3: open their season last night. Josh Morby joins us on

1759
01:29:31,547 --> 01:29:34,387
Speaker 3: Weekend Sport how satisfying Josh for the Hurricanes to get

1760
01:29:34,707 --> 01:29:37,227
Speaker 3: a bonus point when after a good performance last night

1761
01:29:37,307 --> 01:29:40,747
Speaker 3: and your first outing of the season, it was great.

1762
01:29:42,547 --> 01:29:45,147
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was awesome to get a result like that

1763
01:29:45,267 --> 01:29:50,067
Speaker 2: after a good preseason and yeah, just happy with how

1764
01:29:50,147 --> 01:29:50,947
Speaker 2: we performed last night.

1765
01:29:51,907 --> 01:29:54,027
Speaker 3: The buye first up. I mean, somebody's got to get

1766
01:29:54,067 --> 01:29:55,507
Speaker 3: it right. But did it feel like you were sort

1767
01:29:55,547 --> 01:29:57,187
Speaker 3: of waiting on the start line while all the other

1768
01:29:57,307 --> 01:29:58,947
Speaker 3: ten teams got away last weekend?

1769
01:30:01,227 --> 01:30:01,307
Speaker 14: Ah?

1770
01:30:01,547 --> 01:30:03,707
Speaker 2: Yes, so gives them a little bit yeh, Like it's

1771
01:30:03,747 --> 01:30:05,667
Speaker 2: funny being home and having that extra week to sort

1772
01:30:05,667 --> 01:30:08,667
Speaker 2: of what teams playing. I mean after a bit of

1773
01:30:08,707 --> 01:30:10,907
Speaker 2: preseason there might be you know, a couple of rough

1774
01:30:11,027 --> 01:30:14,947
Speaker 2: rough spots that it needs fixing. And but no, I

1775
01:30:15,067 --> 01:30:17,107
Speaker 2: mean it could have been a bit of a blessing.

1776
01:30:17,147 --> 01:30:17,347
Speaker 18: Really.

1777
01:30:17,547 --> 01:30:19,187
Speaker 2: We had that extra week to spend with each other

1778
01:30:19,267 --> 01:30:22,947
Speaker 2: and really connect on our camp week that we went

1779
01:30:22,947 --> 01:30:27,267
Speaker 2: away on and so yeah, no, I think, yeah we

1780
01:30:27,667 --> 01:30:28,707
Speaker 2: use that to ourn advantage.

1781
01:30:29,747 --> 01:30:31,707
Speaker 3: Maana s Pacifica scored the first try of the game,

1782
01:30:31,787 --> 01:30:34,307
Speaker 3: but it wasn't long before you bounce back and scored

1783
01:30:34,347 --> 01:30:36,627
Speaker 3: your first try. How important was it to quickly bounce

1784
01:30:36,707 --> 01:30:39,267
Speaker 3: back after Malwana took that early lead.

1785
01:30:40,827 --> 01:30:44,347
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was massively important. I mean watching

1786
01:30:44,347 --> 01:30:46,107
Speaker 2: them last week they got on such a such a

1787
01:30:46,187 --> 01:30:50,227
Speaker 2: quick roll and against Fiji draws. I mean we know

1788
01:30:50,427 --> 01:30:54,227
Speaker 2: the threat they pose, and it was messa to try

1789
01:30:54,267 --> 01:30:56,667
Speaker 2: and get momentum back on our side after I like

1790
01:30:56,707 --> 01:30:58,027
Speaker 2: you said, a quick start for them.

1791
01:30:58,427 --> 01:31:02,067
Speaker 3: Big night for you personally with three tries. What was

1792
01:31:02,347 --> 01:31:03,867
Speaker 3: was clicking for you? What went so well for you

1793
01:31:03,987 --> 01:31:05,667
Speaker 3: last night that allowed you to get in the positions

1794
01:31:05,707 --> 01:31:07,147
Speaker 3: to die down three times?

1795
01:31:09,187 --> 01:31:10,027
Speaker 7: I think I think it was.

1796
01:31:10,067 --> 01:31:13,827
Speaker 2: Definitely the guys you know inside doing doing their job.

1797
01:31:13,867 --> 01:31:17,467
Speaker 2: I mean they're creating space for us outside to sort

1798
01:31:17,507 --> 01:31:21,027
Speaker 2: of get a bit of space and try and try

1799
01:31:21,067 --> 01:31:23,027
Speaker 2: and play. So I mean a massive credit to the

1800
01:31:23,027 --> 01:31:24,507
Speaker 2: big boys up front. I mean they do a lot

1801
01:31:24,547 --> 01:31:27,187
Speaker 2: of unseen work and get us some great go forward

1802
01:31:27,227 --> 01:31:29,867
Speaker 2: baard so it allows us to you know, to find

1803
01:31:29,947 --> 01:31:33,067
Speaker 2: space and try and execute. So I think that was key.

1804
01:31:33,107 --> 01:31:35,267
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, all those big boys here, they did

1805
01:31:35,307 --> 01:31:35,987
Speaker 2: a massive job for.

1806
01:31:36,067 --> 01:31:36,627
Speaker 7: Us last night.

1807
01:31:37,507 --> 01:31:41,667
Speaker 3: Now your second try, fair thing, Norfolk has gone into

1808
01:31:41,787 --> 01:31:44,147
Speaker 3: the into the end goal area. All he has to

1809
01:31:44,227 --> 01:31:46,707
Speaker 3: do is put it down and he's got the try.

1810
01:31:47,307 --> 01:31:49,987
Speaker 3: He's pasted it to you. What what is going on here.

1811
01:31:51,627 --> 01:31:53,987
Speaker 2: I know I'm going to get him something when we

1812
01:31:54,067 --> 01:31:54,867
Speaker 2: get back on Monday.

1813
01:31:54,867 --> 01:31:57,667
Speaker 7: I reckon, it's so yeah.

1814
01:31:58,067 --> 01:32:00,027
Speaker 2: I don't know what he was thinking, Nord. I must

1815
01:32:00,067 --> 01:32:01,827
Speaker 2: have been screaming for it. I can't remember your probably

1816
01:32:01,827 --> 01:32:04,187
Speaker 2: say I was, but I know pretty thankful. I mean

1817
01:32:04,547 --> 01:32:05,307
Speaker 2: that I didn't shell it.

1818
01:32:05,387 --> 01:32:08,027
Speaker 21: To be fair, you're really expecting it.

1819
01:32:08,907 --> 01:32:10,907
Speaker 3: I guess you don't expect to pass of those situations.

1820
01:32:10,947 --> 01:32:12,387
Speaker 3: But good on you for grabbing it and taking it

1821
01:32:12,427 --> 01:32:14,787
Speaker 3: a bit closer to the post as well. You nearly

1822
01:32:14,787 --> 01:32:16,667
Speaker 3: had a fourth try too. Didn't you call back for

1823
01:32:16,667 --> 01:32:17,067
Speaker 3: a knock on?

1824
01:32:17,187 --> 01:32:17,347
Speaker 12: Did you?

1825
01:32:18,027 --> 01:32:19,267
Speaker 3: As it happened, do you think, well, I might I

1826
01:32:19,387 --> 01:32:19,747
Speaker 3: knock that on.

1827
01:32:22,827 --> 01:32:25,547
Speaker 2: I felt like I may have done the right thing.

1828
01:32:25,627 --> 01:32:28,147
Speaker 2: But I guess everyone's going to say that. But yeah,

1829
01:32:28,387 --> 01:32:30,627
Speaker 2: it was called back, so I was a little bit une. Well,

1830
01:32:30,947 --> 01:32:32,827
Speaker 2: you know, we got to got to selloud.

1831
01:32:32,907 --> 01:32:34,907
Speaker 14: So yeah.

1832
01:32:34,987 --> 01:32:37,187
Speaker 2: But so one of those gray years, isn't it. You've

1833
01:32:37,387 --> 01:32:41,227
Speaker 2: really got to be purposeful with that sort of movement.

1834
01:32:41,307 --> 01:32:41,867
Speaker 2: I guess.

1835
01:32:43,147 --> 01:32:46,027
Speaker 3: Brett Cameron. The downside to it all last night was

1836
01:32:46,027 --> 01:32:48,387
Speaker 3: seeing Brett Cameron go down and having to leave the

1837
01:32:48,467 --> 01:32:51,947
Speaker 3: field with what looks to be a reasonably serious knee injury.

1838
01:32:52,627 --> 01:32:54,747
Speaker 3: I know it's part of the game, Guys get injured,

1839
01:32:54,787 --> 01:32:57,587
Speaker 3: you know, but how tough is it to see one

1840
01:32:57,627 --> 01:32:59,947
Speaker 3: of your teammates in a situation like that.

1841
01:33:01,827 --> 01:33:06,307
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so devastating to see him like that. I'm

1842
01:33:06,427 --> 01:33:09,947
Speaker 2: I've lived with Brett, and yeah, it's just such a

1843
01:33:10,067 --> 01:33:12,787
Speaker 2: tough tough thing to see. I mean it almost you know,

1844
01:33:12,947 --> 01:33:14,947
Speaker 2: just pulled out all the pulled out all the energy

1845
01:33:15,027 --> 01:33:19,907
Speaker 2: and Scott Henry Stadium yesterday, Like he's such an influential

1846
01:33:19,947 --> 01:33:22,907
Speaker 2: player to us, and for that to happen, I mean,

1847
01:33:22,947 --> 01:33:25,907
Speaker 2: it's just yeah, like, it's just devastating. I'm just feeling

1848
01:33:25,947 --> 01:33:28,267
Speaker 2: for him and hoping it's it's not as bad as

1849
01:33:28,867 --> 01:33:29,587
Speaker 2: as what it looks.

1850
01:33:29,627 --> 01:33:31,067
Speaker 13: So your thoughts for with.

1851
01:33:31,107 --> 01:33:34,547
Speaker 3: Him at the moment absolutely, as are all Hurricanes fans thoughts.

1852
01:33:34,667 --> 01:33:36,947
Speaker 3: He's had to come back from a couple of pretty

1853
01:33:36,987 --> 01:33:38,947
Speaker 3: serious injuries and he was in good shape, wasn't he.

1854
01:33:38,987 --> 01:33:41,147
Speaker 3: Clarke Laidlaw talked last night, your coach, about how he

1855
01:33:41,307 --> 01:33:44,027
Speaker 3: was had a great preseason running the team around, looking

1856
01:33:44,067 --> 01:33:46,107
Speaker 3: forward to it. I mean, I guess, I mean, you

1857
01:33:46,147 --> 01:33:47,587
Speaker 3: don't want it to happen to anybody, do you? But

1858
01:33:47,747 --> 01:33:49,787
Speaker 3: but it's just such bad luck for a guy who's

1859
01:33:49,787 --> 01:33:51,947
Speaker 3: already had a decent slice of bad luck.

1860
01:33:53,267 --> 01:33:53,907
Speaker 7: Yeah exactly.

1861
01:33:53,987 --> 01:33:58,707
Speaker 2: I mean already came back from his acl you know,

1862
01:33:58,747 --> 01:34:00,787
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago and in record time. And

1863
01:34:01,147 --> 01:34:04,747
Speaker 2: that's a credit for Brett. Like his mindset is, you know,

1864
01:34:04,827 --> 01:34:07,227
Speaker 2: one of the best I've seen. So you know what

1865
01:34:07,307 --> 01:34:09,187
Speaker 2: he was throwing them, it's it's devastating, but I know

1866
01:34:09,267 --> 01:34:12,307
Speaker 2: he's gonna get back on the horse and he'll be

1867
01:34:12,347 --> 01:34:15,227
Speaker 2: back in no time better than either. So you know,

1868
01:34:15,387 --> 01:34:17,907
Speaker 2: just really really you know, thinking of them at the

1869
01:34:17,987 --> 01:34:21,387
Speaker 2: moment and yeah, like I said, hope it's not as

1870
01:34:21,427 --> 01:34:21,867
Speaker 2: bad as.

1871
01:34:22,267 --> 01:34:24,827
Speaker 3: Is what it looked, well said. Well said he had

1872
01:34:24,867 --> 01:34:27,387
Speaker 3: a strong lead by halftime. Was there a point of

1873
01:34:27,427 --> 01:34:29,347
Speaker 3: which you think you thought, ok, we've got control of

1874
01:34:29,387 --> 01:34:29,707
Speaker 3: this game.

1875
01:34:32,747 --> 01:34:34,147
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. I don't think you can

1876
01:34:34,227 --> 01:34:37,067
Speaker 2: think like they're in any any game. Here is it's

1877
01:34:37,507 --> 01:34:41,267
Speaker 2: such a fierce competition at the moment, and you know

1878
01:34:41,387 --> 01:34:43,707
Speaker 2: that they're one of those teams that once they get

1879
01:34:43,707 --> 01:34:46,747
Speaker 2: the tails up, they really come at you. And you know,

1880
01:34:46,827 --> 01:34:49,027
Speaker 2: really we we had to fight hard, and that's second

1881
01:34:49,067 --> 01:34:52,427
Speaker 2: half and just to keep the pressure on and you know,

1882
01:34:52,467 --> 01:34:55,707
Speaker 2: we have to keep accumulating points to to get into

1883
01:34:55,747 --> 01:34:59,027
Speaker 2: a healthy sort of lead, and like, yeah, like I

1884
01:34:59,067 --> 01:35:00,867
Speaker 2: was saying, like we've we had to work really hard

1885
01:35:00,947 --> 01:35:04,427
Speaker 2: last night, and yeah it's recruded some one. They're at

1886
01:35:04,427 --> 01:35:06,027
Speaker 2: their top qualaby team.

1887
01:35:06,947 --> 01:35:08,747
Speaker 3: You're back with the Hurricanes now, of course, Josh, you

1888
01:35:08,787 --> 01:35:12,427
Speaker 3: had a season in France with Montpellier. Back into Super Rugby. Now,

1889
01:35:12,627 --> 01:35:14,827
Speaker 3: what are the biggest things you bring back having you know,

1890
01:35:14,947 --> 01:35:17,427
Speaker 3: having had a season playing up in the Northern Hemisphere.

1891
01:35:19,507 --> 01:35:23,667
Speaker 2: I think it's it's helped me grow my game as

1892
01:35:23,667 --> 01:35:25,987
Speaker 2: a player and as a man. I mean, I guess

1893
01:35:26,027 --> 01:35:28,027
Speaker 2: I see the game a little bit differently now being

1894
01:35:28,427 --> 01:35:31,827
Speaker 2: in a Northern Hemisphere where you know, they might prioritize

1895
01:35:31,867 --> 01:35:34,667
Speaker 2: cacking a lot more and so that sort of space

1896
01:35:34,707 --> 01:35:37,387
Speaker 2: I guess may may help in certain games or against

1897
01:35:37,387 --> 01:35:37,947
Speaker 2: certain teams.

1898
01:35:38,027 --> 01:35:40,067
Speaker 7: So but yeah, a lot.

1899
01:35:40,187 --> 01:35:42,427
Speaker 2: It's just getting a different perspective of of how to

1900
01:35:42,427 --> 01:35:45,307
Speaker 2: play rugby. I mean, we're always looking to get better

1901
01:35:45,387 --> 01:35:50,867
Speaker 2: and improve our games. So yeah, yeah, I hope I

1902
01:35:51,027 --> 01:35:55,227
Speaker 2: improved and yeah, I really enjoyed my time time up there.

1903
01:35:55,747 --> 01:35:58,147
Speaker 3: Well, the first piece of evidence is pretty good last night,

1904
01:35:58,227 --> 01:36:00,147
Speaker 3: so I think we can we can safely assume that

1905
01:36:00,387 --> 01:36:02,587
Speaker 3: how different was the was the culture around the team,

1906
01:36:02,707 --> 01:36:05,427
Speaker 3: the coaching structure was it was it quite different from

1907
01:36:05,947 --> 01:36:08,067
Speaker 3: being in a in a super rugby team or not?

1908
01:36:09,867 --> 01:36:12,907
Speaker 2: Uh not really, Like the weeks are set up pretty

1909
01:36:13,227 --> 01:36:18,867
Speaker 2: pretty similar and there's just probably you're not much not

1910
01:36:18,987 --> 01:36:22,787
Speaker 2: much difference to to be fair, it's just obviously the games,

1911
01:36:22,867 --> 01:36:24,947
Speaker 2: the prime time games are nine pm at nights, so

1912
01:36:25,307 --> 01:36:28,227
Speaker 2: getting used to a long day is was difficult at first.

1913
01:36:29,027 --> 01:36:31,707
Speaker 2: But yeah, it was a quite interesting one you played.

1914
01:36:31,787 --> 01:36:33,227
Speaker 3: But a fall back when you're over there are I know,

1915
01:36:33,307 --> 01:36:35,067
Speaker 3: and I know you've you've played full back back here

1916
01:36:35,107 --> 01:36:36,467
Speaker 3: as well. Do you do you feel as though it's

1917
01:36:36,467 --> 01:36:38,107
Speaker 3: a you know, you're a genuine option you went to

1918
01:36:38,147 --> 01:36:40,027
Speaker 3: fall back last night of course when the back line

1919
01:36:40,067 --> 01:36:42,627
Speaker 3: reshuffle happened. Do you feel as though you know you're

1920
01:36:42,787 --> 01:36:44,907
Speaker 3: you're willing and able to play in any of those

1921
01:36:44,947 --> 01:36:46,347
Speaker 3: back three positions if required?

1922
01:36:47,747 --> 01:36:49,587
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, you know, whatever it's best for the team.

1923
01:36:49,747 --> 01:36:52,827
Speaker 2: I'm happy to put my hand up and do. Yeah,

1924
01:36:52,867 --> 01:36:55,307
Speaker 2: like you saying, like when I first started the Hurricanes,

1925
01:36:55,307 --> 01:36:59,147
Speaker 2: I was I was at fifteen, so I'm pretty fairly

1926
01:36:59,187 --> 01:37:01,067
Speaker 2: lucky now that the way the game is going. It's

1927
01:37:01,627 --> 01:37:04,027
Speaker 2: the positions are fairly similar and that outside back area,

1928
01:37:04,147 --> 01:37:08,587
Speaker 2: So yeah, what whatever's best for the team, steppyd to do.

1929
01:37:08,787 --> 01:37:11,667
Speaker 3: You up to fee next week. You're packing plenty of

1930
01:37:11,747 --> 01:37:14,347
Speaker 3: ice for a trip up to Loudtoka.

1931
01:37:15,827 --> 01:37:19,947
Speaker 2: Hopefully hopefully make the team to travel up there. And yeah,

1932
01:37:19,947 --> 01:37:22,747
Speaker 2: it looks pretty hot last week watching Wane to play them,

1933
01:37:22,787 --> 01:37:26,427
Speaker 2: so yeah, so it will be an interesting one.

1934
01:37:27,107 --> 01:37:29,347
Speaker 3: Good man, Josh, Hey, well, congratulations on last night. He

1935
01:37:29,427 --> 01:37:32,227
Speaker 3: tries your overall performance and the performance of the Hurricanes

1936
01:37:32,267 --> 01:37:34,227
Speaker 3: one from one. Can't do better than that. Thanks for

1937
01:37:34,627 --> 01:37:36,067
Speaker 3: taking the time for a chat this afternoon.

1938
01:37:37,187 --> 01:37:38,147
Speaker 2: Cheers, thank you very much for that.

1939
01:37:38,627 --> 01:37:40,867
Speaker 3: No, thank you, Josh, Thank you mate. Cheers Josh. We'll

1940
01:37:40,947 --> 01:37:43,347
Speaker 3: be there from the Hurricanes hat trick last night. Good

1941
01:37:43,347 --> 01:37:46,027
Speaker 3: all round performance. G look good out there that back three.

1942
01:37:47,707 --> 01:37:49,747
Speaker 3: You know when Ruben Love comes back depending on where

1943
01:37:49,787 --> 01:37:53,667
Speaker 3: he's slots and where Jeordie is. The two wingers Josh

1944
01:37:53,747 --> 01:37:58,507
Speaker 3: Moreby and fair hair for the younger Norful, they just

1945
01:37:58,547 --> 01:38:02,747
Speaker 3: look great, really really good. Brett Cameron. Obviously that's a

1946
01:38:02,827 --> 01:38:05,267
Speaker 3: big blow for the Hurricanes, but you know on first evidence,

1947
01:38:05,307 --> 01:38:08,587
Speaker 3: and yes, they're a tougher games to come then a

1948
01:38:08,667 --> 01:38:11,027
Speaker 3: game against more Onna Pacifica who had that really tough

1949
01:38:11,107 --> 01:38:13,187
Speaker 3: trip up to Fiji. They won up there, ton of

1950
01:38:13,267 --> 01:38:15,427
Speaker 3: umung of the coach made a lot of changes in

1951
01:38:15,587 --> 01:38:17,747
Speaker 3: his starting fifteen and his match day twenty three for

1952
01:38:17,907 --> 01:38:21,627
Speaker 3: last night, and you know, I guess the Hurricanes would

1953
01:38:21,627 --> 01:38:25,427
Speaker 3: always have been favored coming in fresh But yeah, we

1954
01:38:25,507 --> 01:38:26,627
Speaker 3: can do his play what's in front of you, and

1955
01:38:26,667 --> 01:38:29,747
Speaker 3: I thought they, you know, for good periods of last night,

1956
01:38:30,067 --> 01:38:32,187
Speaker 3: played very very well. When you get fifty two points,

1957
01:38:32,187 --> 01:38:34,467
Speaker 3: score eight tries, get your bonus point, I guess you

1958
01:38:34,507 --> 01:38:36,027
Speaker 3: can't ask for too much more in terms of what

1959
01:38:36,107 --> 01:38:39,427
Speaker 3: happens on the scoreboard. There will be obviously stuff to

1960
01:38:40,907 --> 01:38:43,787
Speaker 3: pick over for the coaching staff, but yeah, the win

1961
01:38:44,067 --> 01:38:46,987
Speaker 3: is the thing for the Hurricanes two twenty two. If

1962
01:38:47,027 --> 01:38:48,667
Speaker 3: you were there last night, I want to pass comments

1963
01:38:48,707 --> 01:38:50,747
Speaker 3: on the game saw on television, anything that stood out

1964
01:38:50,747 --> 01:38:55,227
Speaker 3: to you. I thought Warner Durns was well. First of all,

1965
01:38:55,267 --> 01:38:58,667
Speaker 3: he's massive, he is a massive human being. But I

1966
01:38:58,707 --> 01:39:00,507
Speaker 3: thought he had a good game. Apart from the first

1967
01:39:00,547 --> 01:39:03,067
Speaker 3: two lineouts when he knocked them both on, I don't

1968
01:39:03,107 --> 01:39:04,907
Speaker 3: think both were his fold and most of the throws

1969
01:39:04,907 --> 01:39:08,507
Speaker 3: from a Safai Moor were pinpoint. But Warner Turns has

1970
01:39:08,547 --> 01:39:10,147
Speaker 3: gone up there and knocked both of the first two

1971
01:39:10,187 --> 01:39:12,667
Speaker 3: lineout takes his attempt and he's knocked them on. He

1972
01:39:12,747 --> 01:39:15,427
Speaker 3: must wonder, he must be wondering if he's if the

1973
01:39:15,547 --> 01:39:17,427
Speaker 3: Hurricanes are the right team for him after all. But

1974
01:39:17,507 --> 01:39:19,587
Speaker 3: after that, man, he was terrific, played the high eighty

1975
01:39:19,627 --> 01:39:22,587
Speaker 3: minutes and really stood out in the in set piece

1976
01:39:22,787 --> 01:39:25,707
Speaker 3: and the type and in the loose as well. Two

1977
01:39:25,787 --> 01:39:27,867
Speaker 3: twenty three back in a second News talks ab.

1978
01:39:28,347 --> 01:39:31,587
Speaker 1: If it matters in sport, it matters here we can

1979
01:39:31,707 --> 01:39:36,147
Speaker 1: sport with Jason Paine and GJ. Gudnomes, New Zealand's most

1980
01:39:36,187 --> 01:39:37,187
Speaker 1: trusted home builder.

1981
01:39:37,387 --> 01:39:40,267
Speaker 3: News Talks that b two twenty six on text. Josh

1982
01:39:40,347 --> 01:39:43,387
Speaker 3: Morby the Stag that got Away. Of course he started

1983
01:39:43,427 --> 01:39:46,587
Speaker 3: his provincial career in Southland, didn't he, Josh Morby at

1984
01:39:46,587 --> 01:39:49,027
Speaker 3: about three seasons down there, and then went all the

1985
01:39:49,067 --> 01:39:51,107
Speaker 3: way to Northland, all the way to the other end

1986
01:39:51,147 --> 01:39:54,147
Speaker 3: of the country to play as provincial rugby after that

1987
01:39:54,467 --> 01:39:56,587
Speaker 3: Hurricanes of course, but yeah, maybe you could call him

1988
01:39:56,907 --> 01:39:58,787
Speaker 3: the Stag that got away. Hello, Tim.

1989
01:40:00,147 --> 01:40:04,467
Speaker 7: He actually comes from Portorrow, Hunger in Wycott and the

1990
01:40:04,587 --> 01:40:05,147
Speaker 7: King Country.

1991
01:40:05,587 --> 01:40:07,867
Speaker 3: That's right, So how did he end up there in Southland?

1992
01:40:07,947 --> 01:40:11,107
Speaker 3: Did they just sort of I don't know, some bluff

1993
01:40:11,107 --> 01:40:12,467
Speaker 3: oysters in front of them or something, I don't know.

1994
01:40:13,307 --> 01:40:15,067
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, he would not want to live down there

1995
01:40:15,107 --> 01:40:21,987
Speaker 7: with those bluff Just on observation. I thought the Hurricanes

1996
01:40:22,027 --> 01:40:25,067
Speaker 7: were fantastic last night. We've known for a while that,

1997
01:40:25,867 --> 01:40:28,507
Speaker 7: ever since the early two thousands, that they've had the

1998
01:40:28,587 --> 01:40:31,347
Speaker 7: capability to be the best in Super rugby. But I

1999
01:40:31,427 --> 01:40:33,747
Speaker 7: honestly think this year is they can get it together mate,

2000
01:40:34,587 --> 01:40:38,827
Speaker 7: the serious title contenders. They've definitely got the back line.

2001
01:40:39,867 --> 01:40:42,187
Speaker 7: It's just a manner of everyone's staying fit. They've got

2002
01:40:42,227 --> 01:40:45,427
Speaker 7: what They've got three All Black props in their team.

2003
01:40:46,067 --> 01:40:50,587
Speaker 7: You've got Tyree Lomax, You've got Puzzily Dussi and Tavita

2004
01:40:50,667 --> 01:40:53,787
Speaker 7: mafi Leo who was on that All Blacks tour last year.

2005
01:40:53,827 --> 01:40:55,867
Speaker 7: And then you've got us a far more coming back.

2006
01:40:56,307 --> 01:40:59,667
Speaker 7: You've got the best half back in the world, Ruben Love,

2007
01:40:59,667 --> 01:41:01,787
Speaker 7: who's probably going to start this year at first five.

2008
01:41:01,907 --> 01:41:05,307
Speaker 7: You've heard it first for the All Blacks, so they've

2009
01:41:05,427 --> 01:41:07,747
Speaker 7: definitely got the cape ability met I think it's out

2010
01:41:07,787 --> 01:41:10,947
Speaker 7: of them. Probably the Chiefs again in the Crusaders. The

2011
01:41:11,027 --> 01:41:13,787
Speaker 7: Blues are probably there or thereabouts. I'm hoping that the

2012
01:41:13,867 --> 01:41:16,787
Speaker 7: Hlanders can kind of hang on because you know, when

2013
01:41:16,867 --> 01:41:19,147
Speaker 7: push comes to shove, when they start playing more the

2014
01:41:19,467 --> 01:41:22,947
Speaker 7: Kiwi teams away from home, that's my that's probably where

2015
01:41:22,947 --> 01:41:23,827
Speaker 7: they're going to get undone.

2016
01:41:25,187 --> 01:41:27,427
Speaker 3: You're getting me excited to him, You're getting me excited

2017
01:41:27,467 --> 01:41:30,067
Speaker 3: about my Hurricanes. I've been looking at this roster as

2018
01:41:30,107 --> 01:41:33,547
Speaker 3: well and thinking, yeah, a lot of the bases are covered.

2019
01:41:33,547 --> 01:41:35,507
Speaker 3: I think having Warner Durn's there in the second row.

2020
01:41:35,547 --> 01:41:37,467
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what you made of him last night,

2021
01:41:37,507 --> 01:41:39,867
Speaker 3: but he's a big unit and you know, often it's

2022
01:41:39,947 --> 01:41:42,507
Speaker 3: you know, you're right. The front row is solid, the

2023
01:41:42,627 --> 01:41:45,307
Speaker 3: Lusies have always been good. Maybe the second row is

2024
01:41:45,307 --> 01:41:47,307
Speaker 3: an area where there's perhaps been a bit of strengthen

2025
01:41:47,347 --> 01:41:49,947
Speaker 3: he needed, and having him there, who knows, he might

2026
01:41:50,027 --> 01:41:51,267
Speaker 3: be one of the missing pieces too.

2027
01:41:51,987 --> 01:41:55,547
Speaker 7: Well, he's if he wasn't eligible, well, if he was

2028
01:41:55,587 --> 01:41:57,587
Speaker 7: eligible to be an about he would be an all blast,

2029
01:41:57,827 --> 01:41:59,827
Speaker 7: that's how good of a player he is. And then

2030
01:41:59,867 --> 01:42:01,987
Speaker 7: you've got players that weren't there last night, the deep

2031
01:42:02,187 --> 01:42:05,147
Speaker 7: see yep, I mean he's awesome. And then you've got

2032
01:42:05,547 --> 01:42:07,987
Speaker 7: you've pretty much got all the flankers future, all black

2033
01:42:08,027 --> 01:42:10,667
Speaker 7: flankers in that team. So as the Hurricanes did do

2034
01:42:10,787 --> 01:42:13,187
Speaker 7: it this year, you've got to ask yourself, when are they.

2035
01:42:13,147 --> 01:42:13,587
Speaker 18: Going to do it?

2036
01:42:15,027 --> 01:42:17,187
Speaker 3: Tim, I'm gonna recall I'm going to record this call

2037
01:42:17,467 --> 01:42:19,907
Speaker 3: and I'm going to play it back often across the season.

2038
01:42:20,187 --> 01:42:21,747
Speaker 3: And I hope that you and I can chat a

2039
01:42:21,827 --> 01:42:22,667
Speaker 3: lot more as well.

2040
01:42:22,747 --> 01:42:22,987
Speaker 10: Mate.

2041
01:42:23,267 --> 01:42:25,187
Speaker 3: Good to hear from you out and about watching some

2042
01:42:25,307 --> 01:42:27,107
Speaker 3: sport by the sounds of a good to chat to

2043
01:42:27,147 --> 01:42:29,667
Speaker 3: your mate. I appreciate you calling it. I'm got to

2044
01:42:29,707 --> 01:42:34,187
Speaker 3: mention the Hurricanes' debut, says Richie of Alessi polical everywhere,

2045
01:42:34,227 --> 01:42:38,907
Speaker 3: big body, versatile, had such an impact on tied Mwana players,

2046
01:42:39,027 --> 01:42:41,027
Speaker 3: so hard to put down. Yeah, he was good, polical

2047
01:42:41,587 --> 01:42:44,747
Speaker 3: and Tim's right. And I come from a position of

2048
01:42:44,867 --> 01:42:49,387
Speaker 3: bias obviously here, being a Hurricanes fan through and through.

2049
01:42:49,427 --> 01:42:52,227
Speaker 3: I've supported this team for thirty years. But I look

2050
01:42:52,267 --> 01:42:55,147
Speaker 3: at it and I think it is a very good

2051
01:42:55,227 --> 01:42:59,267
Speaker 3: team with a lot of cover and a lot of positions.

2052
01:42:59,347 --> 01:43:03,067
Speaker 3: The only issue really is first five eight, especially with

2053
01:43:03,267 --> 01:43:06,707
Speaker 3: Brett Cameron going down last night. Ruben Loves still a

2054
01:43:06,827 --> 01:43:11,427
Speaker 3: little way away from coming back. Harry Godfrey out for

2055
01:43:11,507 --> 01:43:17,587
Speaker 3: the season. I wonder who's going to play there next week.

2056
01:43:18,827 --> 01:43:23,187
Speaker 3: Callum Harkin came into first five last night when Cameron

2057
01:43:23,227 --> 01:43:26,787
Speaker 3: went off. Lucas cash Moore is also in the Hurricane squad,

2058
01:43:26,827 --> 01:43:31,067
Speaker 3: a genuine first five. So maybe for the next three weeks,

2059
01:43:31,107 --> 01:43:32,987
Speaker 3: which are a bit friendlier, there aren't There aren't too

2060
01:43:32,987 --> 01:43:36,187
Speaker 3: many derbies. In fact, there aren't any until well they've

2061
01:43:36,187 --> 01:43:38,067
Speaker 3: got the DRW next, then the Warratas, then the Force.

2062
01:43:38,107 --> 01:43:39,987
Speaker 3: I'm not saying those are easy games. Warrators are playing

2063
01:43:40,027 --> 01:43:45,027
Speaker 3: well two from two, but yeah, maybe you make do

2064
01:43:45,267 --> 01:43:51,267
Speaker 3: until Ruben Love comes back. Hello Roger, Hello, Boney, Hey

2065
01:43:51,267 --> 01:43:53,987
Speaker 3: you doing Buddy good? Thank you, Roger, very good? Thanks mate?

2066
01:43:54,907 --> 01:43:55,787
Speaker 24: Oh thanks mate.

2067
01:43:55,827 --> 01:43:57,667
Speaker 7: I think we've hit the nail on the head of

2068
01:43:58,307 --> 01:44:00,467
Speaker 7: the Hurricanes year made. Who's our number eight?

2069
01:44:00,547 --> 01:44:02,067
Speaker 24: It's not Bradonen or that's for sure?

2070
01:44:02,147 --> 01:44:06,427
Speaker 3: What's a same Braden? You'll say, oh.

2071
01:44:06,827 --> 01:44:08,147
Speaker 7: Mate, how good does he look?

2072
01:44:08,187 --> 01:44:09,147
Speaker 3: Without a fear on?

2073
01:44:10,387 --> 01:44:13,067
Speaker 24: I was so good roughing mate, And then you know,

2074
01:44:13,147 --> 01:44:15,347
Speaker 24: I've never seen Jordy Barrett and the back line just

2075
01:44:15,467 --> 01:44:17,067
Speaker 24: not had to do anything like he looked like he

2076
01:44:17,147 --> 01:44:19,187
Speaker 24: didn't know what to do because everyone else was just

2077
01:44:19,267 --> 01:44:22,107
Speaker 24: doing everything. I mean, this is it, mate, We got this, mate,

2078
01:44:22,187 --> 01:44:24,027
Speaker 24: Least lock it in. I'm going to go down and

2079
01:44:24,067 --> 01:44:26,147
Speaker 24: put I don't know whatever I can afford with that,

2080
01:44:26,307 --> 01:44:29,547
Speaker 24: upsetting the missus five hundred on the season. Man, that

2081
01:44:29,707 --> 01:44:32,587
Speaker 24: last caller was he just perfect and you're prayerfect. We're

2082
01:44:32,587 --> 01:44:35,187
Speaker 24: all perfect. This is us, mate, We got this buddy.

2083
01:44:35,667 --> 01:44:36,787
Speaker 21: Take care you.

2084
01:44:36,987 --> 01:44:39,547
Speaker 3: Take care too, right. I'm recording that call as well. Man,

2085
01:44:39,627 --> 01:44:41,667
Speaker 3: this this body of work of the Hurricane is going

2086
01:44:41,707 --> 01:44:43,467
Speaker 3: to win Super Rugby. It's going to take up all

2087
01:44:43,507 --> 01:44:48,627
Speaker 3: of my audio space here. Great, absolutely brilliant. Love this

2088
01:44:49,147 --> 01:44:52,067
Speaker 3: want the Clark laidlaw the head coaches. Overall thoughts after

2089
01:44:52,147 --> 01:44:52,667
Speaker 3: last night.

2090
01:44:52,987 --> 01:44:55,227
Speaker 25: You happy him in fust game that was going to

2091
01:44:55,267 --> 01:44:57,307
Speaker 25: be a little bit of rush. You know some skill

2092
01:44:57,347 --> 01:44:59,187
Speaker 25: set stuff that you know we can take it up

2093
01:44:59,187 --> 01:45:00,707
Speaker 25: and give him a rhythm to a game, I guess.

2094
01:45:00,787 --> 01:45:04,707
Speaker 25: But all in all against you know, tougher position, you

2095
01:45:04,747 --> 01:45:07,147
Speaker 25: see a physical for us to to keep the ball

2096
01:45:07,227 --> 01:45:11,067
Speaker 25: moving and keep it fast for long periods was encouraging.

2097
01:45:11,587 --> 01:45:14,147
Speaker 25: I thought, you know, from a lineup perspective, certainly defensive

2098
01:45:14,147 --> 01:45:16,267
Speaker 25: line out. We started really getting on top of the

2099
01:45:16,307 --> 01:45:20,507
Speaker 25: second half. Scum was on top you know, so you

2100
01:45:20,587 --> 01:45:23,067
Speaker 25: know it was realistic around all the changes they made,

2101
01:45:23,107 --> 01:45:26,227
Speaker 25: et cetera. But yeah, all in all, happy with with the.

2102
01:45:26,267 --> 01:45:28,987
Speaker 3: Start and five of the tries. Shade between his two

2103
01:45:29,107 --> 01:45:31,227
Speaker 3: wingers Josh Morby, who we just heard from of course,

2104
01:45:31,267 --> 01:45:33,827
Speaker 3: and Thinging Anglin A four. So what did Clarke, Gli

2105
01:45:34,027 --> 01:45:37,667
Speaker 3: or Mike of the performance of his numbers eleven and fourteen?

2106
01:45:37,867 --> 01:45:41,227
Speaker 25: Yeah, I mean the different under like Josh's his all

2107
01:45:41,307 --> 01:45:44,387
Speaker 25: action around the field. He pops up in little little

2108
01:45:44,427 --> 01:45:47,587
Speaker 25: spaces when there's line breaks. He obviously shifted the fool

2109
01:45:47,627 --> 01:45:50,747
Speaker 25: back and and still played well. So he's he's a

2110
01:45:50,787 --> 01:45:53,747
Speaker 25: real you know that flexibility to have somebody that can

2111
01:45:53,787 --> 01:45:55,667
Speaker 25: just jump to the back straight away is helpful.

2112
01:45:57,147 --> 01:45:59,187
Speaker 19: And yeah, he's obviously a power winner.

2113
01:46:00,587 --> 01:46:04,387
Speaker 25: He breaks tackles you know often, and he's I think

2114
01:46:04,427 --> 01:46:07,787
Speaker 25: the part of maybe people under ask me with Fahey

2115
01:46:07,867 --> 01:46:10,467
Speaker 25: will be his defensive game cg and Ham. I've done

2116
01:46:10,467 --> 01:46:14,107
Speaker 25: an amazing job of becoming a really strong defender in fifteen,

2117
01:46:14,307 --> 01:46:17,467
Speaker 25: So he doesn't look like it's his second season, only

2118
01:46:17,547 --> 01:46:17,747
Speaker 25: does it.

2119
01:46:18,907 --> 01:46:21,107
Speaker 3: Theater Pretto, Well, yeah, that's Clark laid law after the

2120
01:46:21,147 --> 01:46:23,947
Speaker 3: game last night. So satisfaction all round. Raally apart from

2121
01:46:23,987 --> 01:46:26,267
Speaker 3: the injury, of course, to Brett Cameron, a couple of

2122
01:46:26,307 --> 01:46:28,427
Speaker 3: texts through here, way too early in the season to

2123
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Speaker 3: make assumptions as to who'll be there at the top yet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah day, But we can dream, can't we? We can

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01:46:33,307 --> 01:46:37,627
Speaker 3: dream ten years after our one and only Super Rugby Championship.

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Speaker 3: We can dream, can't we? Hurricanes fans very different team

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Speaker 3: says this text from the one that beat the drawer.

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Speaker 3: Talk them up, go on, I'm looking forward to the crash.

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Speaker 3: I'm not looking forward to the crash twenty seven away

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Speaker 3: from three. When we come back AI in sport, how

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Speaker 3: is it best utilized, Wayne Goldsmith?

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Speaker 1: When we come back from grassroots to the Grandstad Weekend

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Speaker 1: Sport with Jason Clive and GJ gard No Homes, New

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01:47:01,867 --> 01:47:04,267
Speaker 1: Zealand's most trusted home builder news talks.

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Speaker 3: That'd be two thirty six. First there was sport, then

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01:47:07,347 --> 01:47:11,387
Speaker 3: came competitive sport, That was followed by professional sport. More

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Speaker 3: recently we've seen an explosion in E sport, introducing the

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Speaker 3: latest evolution of sport currently sweeping the globe A sport well.

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Speaker 3: To be more accurate, AI sport. AI Artificial intelligence has

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01:47:25,067 --> 01:47:28,947
Speaker 3: risen as an unstoppable, irresistible wave of smart technology around

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01:47:28,987 --> 01:47:31,587
Speaker 3: the world. Its impact on the lives of people everywhere

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Speaker 3: cannot be overstated. A revolution, and it's changing the way

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Speaker 3: we think about, talk about, and coach sport. International sports

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Speaker 3: coaching expert Wayne Goldsmith joins us, You'll note that I've

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Speaker 3: used your intro that I saw on a LinkedIn post

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Speaker 3: during the week as my intro. How are you, Wyane?

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Speaker 3: I'm going, well, I'm just hoping that by the end

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Speaker 3: of this interview people don't think AI is Australian imbecile,

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Speaker 3: because I hopeing they're going to be inspired a little bit,

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Speaker 3: maybe Australian inspire.

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Speaker 12: Hopefully I can inspire them to realize that it is

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01:48:04,427 --> 01:48:08,227
Speaker 12: indeed an incredible breakthrough in sport if you can just

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Speaker 12: spend a bit of time figuring out how to use it.

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01:48:10,747 --> 01:48:13,387
Speaker 3: All right, well, let's try and give our listeners a

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01:48:13,427 --> 01:48:16,427
Speaker 3: bit of guidance. AI in sport. Lots of hype around

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01:48:16,507 --> 01:48:19,507
Speaker 3: about it. It's, as you've said, you know, prevalent in

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Speaker 3: everyday life now, so it stands to reason that people

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Speaker 3: involved in sport are going to use it as well.

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Speaker 3: Take us through a couple of the early stages perhaps

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Speaker 3: of introducing AI into sport.

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Speaker 12: Well, it's something that I've got really invested in the

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Speaker 12: last particularly the last year. I think, even though I've

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01:48:40,387 --> 01:48:43,147
Speaker 12: been in it for a long time, Pinty, I think

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Speaker 12: my own rate of learning has accelerated at a speed

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Speaker 12: that even though I can't comprehend, I honestly walk out

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01:48:52,067 --> 01:48:54,027
Speaker 12: of my mind for some days and I say to

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Speaker 12: my wife, I said, I can't believe what I'm doing.

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Speaker 12: I really cannot believe the way that I'm working and

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Speaker 12: how it's improved my efficiency. Because what most people do

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Speaker 12: is they go, I'll give chat GBT a go, I

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01:49:05,947 --> 01:49:08,107
Speaker 12: just a bit of a play. I've heard about this AI,

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Speaker 12: I think. And they go on a chat and I'll

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01:49:09,907 --> 01:49:14,387
Speaker 12: ask a question like what's the best passing drill to

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Speaker 12: do in netball? And they'll get a few answers and

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01:49:17,907 --> 01:49:19,747
Speaker 12: they go, oh, that's not very good. I could get

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01:49:19,787 --> 01:49:20,627
Speaker 12: that from Google.

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Speaker 3: It's because they asked a Google question. They've got to

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Speaker 3: think of AI, particularly if you're a coach, for example,

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Speaker 3: you think of it in terms of it's an assistant coach.

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Speaker 12: So if you hire an assistant coach and say, can

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Speaker 12: you go run a few passing drills with those kids

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Speaker 12: on the other side. You don't know what you're going

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Speaker 12: to get. You could get anything, good drills, bad drills

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Speaker 12: to advance not you could get anything. But if you're

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Speaker 12: an assistant coach, you'd say, the kids on the other

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01:49:48,107 --> 01:49:50,427
Speaker 12: side of the court, there are twelve they've all been

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Speaker 12: in the team for about two years. They're really good

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01:49:53,587 --> 01:49:56,067
Speaker 12: at passing this way, but they're not passing that way.

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01:49:56,667 --> 01:49:58,987
Speaker 12: Go and do some drills with them. Then the coach

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Speaker 12: that you've hired, your assistant coach, will go, Okay, a

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01:50:01,587 --> 01:50:05,227
Speaker 12: bit more information. I've got it, and AI is the same.

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Speaker 12: And I think a lot of people in their early

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Speaker 12: stages they've treated it.

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Speaker 3: Look, it's a Google prompt or another type of search

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01:50:13,667 --> 01:50:16,787
Speaker 3: engine prompt, and they go, well, this night good, I

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01:50:16,867 --> 01:50:17,627
Speaker 3: could do better.

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Speaker 12: But here's the trick pointy again, you don't think of

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Speaker 12: it as a tool. Don't think about it in terms

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Speaker 12: of Google. You go, this is my assistant coach, this

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01:50:27,587 --> 01:50:30,867
Speaker 12: is my assistant manager. But more time must spend training

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Speaker 12: them to understand what it is I'm trying to do

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01:50:33,747 --> 01:50:36,987
Speaker 12: and who I'm coaching. The better the solutions will be

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01:50:37,107 --> 01:50:37,587
Speaker 12: that I get.

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01:50:38,707 --> 01:50:42,747
Speaker 3: So you have to train AI to be your assistant coach.

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Speaker 3: Teach it as much as you can about like, guess

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Speaker 3: what you're trying to do as well, Wayne. I mean,

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01:50:47,107 --> 01:50:49,307
Speaker 3: you can't just say, you know, teach it to be

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Speaker 3: an assistant coach. It's teaching it to be your assistant coach,

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Speaker 3: isn't it?

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Speaker 12: Absolutely and with your own philosophies. So the continuation of

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01:50:58,547 --> 01:51:01,947
Speaker 12: the example Pointy would be at stage one, on might

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01:51:02,147 --> 01:51:05,147
Speaker 12: just go and write me a training session for a

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01:51:06,507 --> 01:51:10,547
Speaker 12: fourteen rugby team that goes for ninety minutes which focuses

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01:51:10,787 --> 01:51:18,067
Speaker 12: on tackle technique, breakdown and speed development. Now AI can

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01:51:18,147 --> 01:51:21,147
Speaker 12: do that in a blink of an AI. Now there's

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01:51:21,147 --> 01:51:24,747
Speaker 12: a good one. We could use that. But if I then,

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01:51:25,667 --> 01:51:28,907
Speaker 12: if I was to take a photo of my training book,

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01:51:29,107 --> 01:51:32,947
Speaker 12: my workout book, or whichever way I record my training sessions,

2219
01:51:33,347 --> 01:51:36,067
Speaker 12: and I upload that into a honesty based on my

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01:51:36,187 --> 01:51:39,667
Speaker 12: philosophies and my coaching and the work that I've done

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01:51:39,747 --> 01:51:41,787
Speaker 12: with my team over the last two or three months,

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01:51:42,347 --> 01:51:44,307
Speaker 12: please design a training seat and you give it the

2223
01:51:44,347 --> 01:51:47,147
Speaker 12: same instruction and it then goes Hang on, I know

2224
01:51:47,307 --> 01:51:51,067
Speaker 12: how Piney wants to coach. I understand his philosophies and

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01:51:51,267 --> 01:51:53,827
Speaker 12: the information that you put in determines that you get

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01:51:53,867 --> 01:51:57,227
Speaker 12: a better piece of information out the beauty about AI

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01:51:57,387 --> 01:51:59,787
Speaker 12: though it learns very very quickly. So it would come

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01:51:59,827 --> 01:52:02,467
Speaker 12: back to you, Boney and say, I notice that in

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Speaker 12: your training you seem to be doing a lot of

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01:52:04,467 --> 01:52:07,707
Speaker 12: work on tackle technique, do a lot of work on passing.

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01:52:08,387 --> 01:52:12,067
Speaker 12: Have you considered looking at team passing drills which build

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01:52:12,147 --> 01:52:15,867
Speaker 12: on not just passing, but then integrate with defense as well.

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01:52:16,147 --> 01:52:18,787
Speaker 12: So it all throw some suggestions at you which you'll go,

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01:52:19,227 --> 01:52:20,827
Speaker 12: I haven't thought of that, and you're going to say

2235
01:52:20,867 --> 01:52:24,267
Speaker 12: yes or no, or go off in another tangent. So

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01:52:24,547 --> 01:52:27,067
Speaker 12: it's a learning thing. One of the things you can

2237
01:52:27,107 --> 01:52:29,627
Speaker 12: do with AI. And this has blown my mind over

2238
01:52:29,827 --> 01:52:33,467
Speaker 12: and over again, Binnie. Is that what you can quite

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01:52:33,507 --> 01:52:35,747
Speaker 12: often do after that you could say to AI, and

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Speaker 12: I do this on a regular basis. I'll say, looking

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Speaker 12: at what I just asked you AI, and looking at

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01:52:43,027 --> 01:52:46,787
Speaker 12: what you gave me, was there a better way, a

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01:52:46,947 --> 01:52:48,907
Speaker 12: smarter way, or a faster way that I could have

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01:52:48,987 --> 01:52:51,307
Speaker 12: asked you a question that would have got me a

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01:52:51,387 --> 01:52:54,707
Speaker 12: better answer quicker. And it'll say, sure, Wayne, if you

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01:52:54,707 --> 01:52:57,667
Speaker 12: would have asked me a question like this instead of this,

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01:52:57,867 --> 01:53:00,707
Speaker 12: taking ten minutes, you would have got that in two minutes.

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01:53:01,067 --> 01:53:06,267
Speaker 12: So you can ask AI to coach you. And it's there,

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01:53:06,387 --> 01:53:09,067
Speaker 12: very very good at doing that. And I mean that's

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Speaker 12: a base level. And I say to coaches, look, it

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01:53:11,507 --> 01:53:13,507
Speaker 12: doesn't replace you never, You're not going to lose your job.

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01:53:14,627 --> 01:53:18,027
Speaker 12: Still the art of coaching, the connection with the hearts

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01:53:18,067 --> 01:53:21,787
Speaker 12: and minds of kids, inspiring them to believe that anything's possible.

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01:53:22,107 --> 01:53:24,747
Speaker 12: That's still who we are and what we do. But

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Speaker 12: the efficiency that this provides in those really mundane jobs

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01:53:28,907 --> 01:53:34,667
Speaker 12: like writing reports, coming up with training sessions, coming up

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01:53:34,707 --> 01:53:37,187
Speaker 12: with season plans, all that it can do all of

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01:53:37,267 --> 01:53:40,347
Speaker 12: that for you to a standard that you would not

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01:53:40,627 --> 01:53:43,067
Speaker 12: believe possible. It is quite remarkable tool.

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Speaker 3: And I think the key thing here listening to you

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01:53:45,907 --> 01:53:48,427
Speaker 3: is the fact that it is an assistant coach and

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01:53:48,507 --> 01:53:52,707
Speaker 3: assistant to you doing the time consuming stuff like training plans,

2263
01:53:52,827 --> 01:53:56,507
Speaker 3: like writing reports, perhaps like filling out spreadsheets with stats

2264
01:53:56,547 --> 01:54:00,147
Speaker 3: and things like that. But it can't Can it replace

2265
01:54:01,027 --> 01:54:07,387
Speaker 3: a relationship between a coach and athlete that's built on commitment, dedication, respect, work, trust.

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Speaker 3: It can't do that, can it?

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01:54:10,307 --> 01:54:12,867
Speaker 12: Well not yet? We never know where what happens with

2268
01:54:13,467 --> 01:54:15,387
Speaker 12: robots and elon and all the things that are going

2269
01:54:15,427 --> 01:54:17,267
Speaker 12: on in that world. But look, I want to give

2270
01:54:18,027 --> 01:54:20,147
Speaker 12: the listeners a bit of an insight into how we

2271
01:54:20,307 --> 01:54:23,547
Speaker 12: use it, let's say, at the pointing in So, I

2272
01:54:23,707 --> 01:54:26,947
Speaker 12: continue to work with some elite level and pro teams

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Speaker 12: and one of the challenges that one of my clients

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01:54:29,427 --> 01:54:33,827
Speaker 12: said is, we've we've got a little challenges. We've got

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01:54:33,947 --> 01:54:35,947
Speaker 12: a senior coach and a director of football and we

2276
01:54:36,027 --> 01:54:38,707
Speaker 12: pay them a lot of money and we would love

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01:54:38,787 --> 01:54:40,907
Speaker 12: them to go out and spend time with the coaches

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01:54:40,947 --> 01:54:43,467
Speaker 12: of the under fourteens, under sixteens, under eighteens and so on,

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01:54:44,107 --> 01:54:47,107
Speaker 12: but the coaches don't have the time that the senior

2280
01:54:47,187 --> 01:54:50,787
Speaker 12: coaches don't have the time. Is there a way that

2281
01:54:50,987 --> 01:54:53,067
Speaker 12: we can make all the things that's in their head

2282
01:54:53,107 --> 01:54:56,267
Speaker 12: and all their expertise, and how can we make that

2283
01:54:56,347 --> 01:54:59,107
Speaker 12: available to all of our junior coaches with the idea

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01:54:59,227 --> 01:55:01,827
Speaker 12: Piney being that we get a consistent style of play

2285
01:55:02,187 --> 01:55:04,027
Speaker 12: throughout our club so that when they knock on the

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01:55:04,067 --> 01:55:07,907
Speaker 12: door of the senior group. We called job ready. So

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01:55:08,107 --> 01:55:11,307
Speaker 12: we went to our our AI experts and a guy

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01:55:11,427 --> 01:55:13,947
Speaker 12: who works in one of the big AI companies here

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01:55:14,707 --> 01:55:18,187
Speaker 12: and he helped us design what we call personas. So

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01:55:18,347 --> 01:55:20,707
Speaker 12: what we did is we interviewed the two senior coaches,

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01:55:20,747 --> 01:55:23,307
Speaker 12: the two best football brains in the group, and we

2292
01:55:23,467 --> 01:55:27,267
Speaker 12: got everything down that they thought, their beliefs, their philosophies,

2293
01:55:27,307 --> 01:55:31,667
Speaker 12: their attitudes, their old training sessions, their approach to strength training,

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01:55:31,747 --> 01:55:34,587
Speaker 12: team work leaders, everything and we put it into this

2295
01:55:34,707 --> 01:55:37,827
Speaker 12: AI structure. We call it a persona. Now the beauty

2296
01:55:37,867 --> 01:55:40,227
Speaker 12: of this, then is the coach of the under fourteens

2297
01:55:40,307 --> 01:55:43,307
Speaker 12: can then log on and say, hey, I'm looking for

2298
01:55:44,427 --> 01:55:47,867
Speaker 12: a training session for the under fourteen girls team that

2299
01:55:47,987 --> 01:55:50,427
Speaker 12: should really focus on this and this. What do you

2300
01:55:50,507 --> 01:55:53,547
Speaker 12: think I should do? And instead of just asking the

2301
01:55:53,667 --> 01:55:59,147
Speaker 12: AI universe, they're effectively asking the two most senior and

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01:55:59,347 --> 01:56:02,907
Speaker 12: most brilliant coaching minds in our club. So the answer

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01:56:03,027 --> 01:56:06,867
Speaker 12: they get is as if they were sitting and talking

2304
01:56:06,947 --> 01:56:10,467
Speaker 12: to them in person. And so the expertise of these

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01:56:10,507 --> 01:56:15,107
Speaker 12: two guys that are leading the overall technical strategic development

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01:56:15,187 --> 01:56:18,387
Speaker 12: of the club is now getting to the people who

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01:56:18,467 --> 01:56:22,227
Speaker 12: can use it really effectively in the junior development pathway.

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01:56:22,907 --> 01:56:25,707
Speaker 12: That's how powerful this tool is is you can you

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01:56:25,787 --> 01:56:29,107
Speaker 12: can create these and we call them personas, But we

2310
01:56:29,227 --> 01:56:32,507
Speaker 12: can now spread this high level coaching expertise to the

2311
01:56:32,587 --> 01:56:35,587
Speaker 12: coaches who are out there at nurturing and developing younger players.

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01:56:35,747 --> 01:56:37,747
Speaker 12: It really is fantastic Wayane.

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01:56:37,787 --> 01:56:39,827
Speaker 3: Is there any danger we could come to rely on

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01:56:39,947 --> 01:56:40,587
Speaker 3: it too much?

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01:56:43,427 --> 01:56:47,187
Speaker 12: That's I think about it. But you know it's like, look,

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01:56:47,187 --> 01:56:48,827
Speaker 12: I'm talking to a guy the other day from Touch

2317
01:56:48,867 --> 01:56:52,947
Speaker 12: Football and he also he works for Microsoft, and we

2318
01:56:53,027 --> 01:56:55,227
Speaker 12: were just talking away and he said, we were talking

2319
01:56:55,227 --> 01:56:57,587
Speaker 12: about AI and sport things, and he said, Wayne, do

2320
01:56:57,667 --> 01:57:01,427
Speaker 12: you know that the average Microsoft user uses about five

2321
01:57:01,547 --> 01:57:04,507
Speaker 12: percent of the capability of Word and Excel. They don't

2322
01:57:04,587 --> 01:57:06,827
Speaker 12: use much of it, And he said, they use about

2323
01:57:06,867 --> 01:57:09,787
Speaker 12: ten percent of the capability of their keyboard. He said,

2324
01:57:10,387 --> 01:57:13,907
Speaker 12: so they rely on it. But the users who spend

2325
01:57:14,027 --> 01:57:17,067
Speaker 12: more time learning how to integrate it, spend a bit

2326
01:57:17,107 --> 01:57:19,667
Speaker 12: more time improving their own expertise and growing with it,

2327
01:57:20,467 --> 01:57:22,347
Speaker 12: they can go to a completely different level.

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01:57:22,627 --> 01:57:23,947
Speaker 19: And I said, you know what, I think, that's what.

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01:57:24,067 --> 01:57:26,947
Speaker 12: AI is very much for where we are now, is

2330
01:57:27,067 --> 01:57:30,387
Speaker 12: that that if you sit back and go I'm happy

2331
01:57:30,427 --> 01:57:32,667
Speaker 12: with asking it a simple question like can you give

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Speaker 12: me a swimming training session for my fifteen year olds

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Speaker 12: going to national championships next week? Look, Google can do that,

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Speaker 12: gem Andi can do that, Chat can do that, Flayd

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Speaker 12: can do that. You I have it help us. You

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Speaker 12: could get it from a book that's not being innovative,

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Speaker 12: but the ability to really build a relationship with the

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Speaker 12: technology so that it really starts to under I mean,

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Speaker 12: it's some scary stuff. I'm still not trying to take

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Speaker 12: this bie that. The other day I asked Floyd, I

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Speaker 12: use an AI platform called Claude, and I asked Claude

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Speaker 12: to review some data from multiple sources. So I downloaded

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Speaker 12: a lot of data and I put my own data in.

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Speaker 12: But I said, can you have a look at all

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Speaker 12: this data and drag out the four or five top

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Speaker 12: trends that this data is seeing. And it gave me

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Speaker 12: an answer and then asked me a few questions, and

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01:58:22,107 --> 01:58:24,627
Speaker 12: I said, thanks for that. I'm really flat out though

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Speaker 12: the rest of the afternoon. So this is me putting

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Speaker 12: in the book. I said, I'm really flat out the

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Speaker 12: rest of the afternoon. I'll get this tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Floyd comes back and says, that's fine, Wayne, you're having

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01:58:34,427 --> 01:58:36,667
Speaker 3: a big day, go and enjoy a view with the family.

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Speaker 12: We'll pick up on this tomorrow. Now, seriously, and you're

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Speaker 12: starting to go, have I created a new world? It

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Speaker 12: is this X files? What am I doing? But it's

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01:58:49,387 --> 01:58:52,827
Speaker 12: only repeating back to me what it's learnt from me

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01:58:52,987 --> 01:58:56,627
Speaker 12: by the amount of work that we do. And I

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01:58:56,747 --> 01:58:59,627
Speaker 12: mean for people who are tied down by admin. I

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01:58:59,667 --> 01:59:03,147
Speaker 12: mean how many amateur sports and volunteer officials that we

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Speaker 12: got here who are running clubs all over New Zealand

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Speaker 12: and it's just dragging them down the amount of work

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Speaker 12: that they've got to do. But an example from the

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Speaker 12: other day, I'm doing some work with a client and

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Speaker 12: they sent me a brief, they sent me their strategic plan,

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Speaker 12: they sent me five or six surveys in questionnaires that

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Speaker 12: they've done over the last few years. I did some interviews.

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Speaker 12: I dumped it all into the AI platform and I said,

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Speaker 12: looking at the data and pointing this would have taken

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Speaker 12: me days. And I said, look at all the data

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Speaker 12: that I've just put in, please identify one the five

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Speaker 12: clear trends that were seeing from twenty two to twenty

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Speaker 12: five and suggest a list of questions that I could

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01:59:44,347 --> 01:59:47,667
Speaker 12: go back to the community of the sport and asked

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01:59:48,627 --> 01:59:51,827
Speaker 12: Clarification to seek their input on where we should go next.

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01:59:52,627 --> 01:59:56,827
Speaker 12: That seriously took three to four minutes to do a

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Speaker 12: data analysis project that would have taken me days and

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Speaker 12: to a higher level. And the ability to bounce questions

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Speaker 12: backwards and forwards makes it a very very and useful tool.

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Speaker 12: And you know, I think about how volunteers ten amates

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Speaker 12: right throughout the industry who have the lifeblood of what

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Speaker 12: we do in sport. It might really save them so

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Speaker 12: much time and allow them to get back to just

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Speaker 12: working with kids and families.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, you've landed on exactly the point I

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Speaker 3: wanted to finish on because when I first started to

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Speaker 3: dabble in this with my work, asking AI to give me,

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Speaker 3: you know, to do some research for me about about

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Speaker 3: sportsperson's careers, you know, suggesting some possible interview questions that

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Speaker 3: sort of thing. I almost felt like I was cheating.

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Speaker 3: I felt like I wasn't putting the work and I

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Speaker 3: was being a bit lazy. But my wife said to me,

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Speaker 3: very wise woman, she said, think of what you can

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Speaker 3: do with the time that you save. And it was

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Speaker 3: the last line of the notes you sent me that

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Speaker 3: crystallizes this. AI will provide the opportunity for more coaches

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Speaker 3: to dedicate more time to helping more people be all

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Speaker 3: they choose to be, to help more kids realize their

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Speaker 3: full potential as athletes and as people. I'm not sure

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Speaker 3: there's anything anything untoward going on in there, but I

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Speaker 3: think that's true.

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Speaker 12: Pointy is that the coaches, particularly volunteers, are so time poor.

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Speaker 12: But you imagine if I said you're a coach, we

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Speaker 12: could save you two hours a week that you don't

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02:01:21,267 --> 02:01:24,667
Speaker 12: have to write training programs, analyze videos so much. All

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Speaker 12: that stuff we can organize to do for you very quickly,

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Speaker 12: very easily, and for almost no money. The paid version

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Speaker 12: of Chat that goes well is twenty dollars a month.

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Speaker 12: You can get one hundred dollars a month. We'll just

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Speaker 12: use the free one. The free versions quite good. So

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Speaker 12: you've got two hours a week. Now you could use

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Speaker 12: that to build stronger relations that you could go and

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Speaker 12: join a gym and do two one hour sessions and

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Speaker 12: look after your own health. You could schedule a movie

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Speaker 12: night with your partner. Course, I don't know how many

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Speaker 12: coaches out there there are sporting widows and widowers because

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Speaker 12: they just don't see their family anymore. Give them back.

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Speaker 8: The only.

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Speaker 12: Truly consumable resource in the world, which is time to give.

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Speaker 3: Them back that time, more time that they can use

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02:02:10,387 --> 02:02:13,107
Speaker 3: for so many other things, including just being more effective

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Speaker 3: in their coaching. Wayne as always an education speaking to you.

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Speaker 3: People can find out more at WG coaching dot com,

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Speaker 3: across their social media and a very active on LinkedIn.

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Speaker 3: I'd encourage anybody with even a small interest in what

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Speaker 3: we've talked about today to follow you on LinkedIn for

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Speaker 3: more fantastic advice and your little program mets that you

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Speaker 3: put on there. As always, mate, thanks for taking time

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Speaker 3: for us here on ZB and we'll catch up again soon.

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Speaker 12: Well, thank you, Pinty. Hopefully AI stands for always interesting.

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Speaker 3: Certainly does when it comes to you. My friend Wayne

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