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Speaker 2: And welcome to Mantain Tyler Afternoons Full Show Pod number

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Speaker 2: ninety five for the twenty sixth of March. It is

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Speaker 2: our Wednesday. Had a great show. At the end, there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of stuff about fixing your car, and.

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Speaker 3: We went deep.

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Speaker 2: We went deep into personal responsibility and the health care

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Speaker 2: of your life is at the government's fault or yours

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Speaker 2: if you're sick. And we went into that so much

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Speaker 2: because somebody text and calls that we dropped a topic, didn't.

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Speaker 3: We We did. Yeah, and we're going to talk about

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Speaker 2: A bit Yeah, we might do that tomorrow actually, because

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Speaker 2: people do seem to be getting pretty angry at the

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Speaker 2: moment and road workers and parking parking wardens get it.

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Speaker 2: You get it in the face anyway, great show today.

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Speaker 3: Well, get a to you, welcome into the show. Seven

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, Tyler, get everyone.

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Speaker 3: So you were you had the Super long Bowls two

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Speaker 3: last night? Is that right? The Super Bowls?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lawn bowl tournament for an association with November.

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Speaker 2: Oh you're great, Cherry, Yeah, from Men's Mental Health.

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Speaker 3: And how'd you go?

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Speaker 2: Had you absolute? Like, let's just say, how do I

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Speaker 5: I won?

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Speaker 3: You won for the second year in a row. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and I take it because it was a charity. You

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Speaker 3: were you were gracious in your win, you were humble.

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Speaker 2: Percent it was I was humbled in victory. And I

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Speaker 2: think I made that clear to the people that were there.

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Speaker 3: Well, someone sent me a bit of audio, so let's

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Speaker 3: just have a wee listen here.

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Speaker 2: What it's all about?

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Speaker 3: Day say I don't know if that's humble, Is that

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Speaker 2: Yeah? So I was saying to the crowd there and

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Speaker 2: the teams that we had defeated something world Champions, which

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Speaker 2: is an exaggeration. It's only the super Bowls out at

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Speaker 2: the Mount Eden Bowling Club. But here's something for you

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Speaker 2: to aspire to one day. You could be as good

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Speaker 3: Ye, and you stay gracious for the whole night. Things

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Speaker 3: didn't get a little bit loose later on, No, not

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Speaker 3: audio easily, World Champions, World Champions.

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Speaker 2: When as as a tradition, I was drinking out of

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Speaker 2: a that's a tribute to Chase Utley, the fantastic. You

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Speaker 2: know when Philadelphia won the World Series, World Champions, World Champions,

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Speaker 2: well well done mate, Yeah, uncouth language. And you know

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Speaker 2: it was for male mental health, you know, for November

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Speaker 2: the charity, and they're going to need all their resources

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Speaker 2: I asked Stuart Jarna or a team.

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Speaker 3: Who was did you let the Well, obviously you won,

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Speaker 3: but who was who was dragging the team down? Surely

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Speaker 3: At the end of the day without your own balls though, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Ragged, absolutely ragged. Well Well done mate. I don't know

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Speaker 3: On to today's show because it is Wednesday. That means

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Speaker 3: we've got our ass the experts series and this week

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Speaker 3: we have met the mechanic. Matt Bollan is his name.

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Speaker 3: He's had thirty eight years experience as a mechanic for

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Speaker 3: he'll be taking your calls and questions absolutely after three thirty.

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Speaker 3: After three o'clock, there are report about Liam Lawson being

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Speaker 3: Herald Motorsport correspondent Alex Pale just after three pm. We

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Speaker 3: want to hear from you. How do you feel about

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Speaker 3: how this whole thing is unfolded for Liam clearly an

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Speaker 3: incredibly cutthroat sport and ruthless. We're just going to say

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Speaker 2: This is just reports at this point, Tyler, we don't

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Speaker 3: A Couple of stories this morning that you may have seen.

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Speaker 2: So road workers, a quarter of road workers get verbally

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Speaker 3: That is half to two o'clock. But right now, let's

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Speaker 2: Yes, so he's very healthy. Winston Peter's. Actually a couple

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Speaker 1: Well, eat well for a start, ruff, So what do

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Speaker 1: you love to gree Lots of fish lots.

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Speaker 1: Well, fish heads is very just you realized it's the

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Speaker 2: Head, right fish head, the fish head. He's munching fish head.

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Speaker 2: it up to the individual individual to stay as healthy

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Speaker 2: if so, what is the best way to stay healthy?

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Speaker 2: Is it munching fish heads? You know, what are the

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Speaker 2: But we are just are we ever going to have

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Speaker 2: keep going. Absolutely, So do you owe your nation and

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Speaker 2: You know, ask not what your country can do for you,

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Speaker 3: It's a great line.

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Speaker 2: we'll see what we can do. But ultimately, your health

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Speaker 2: And that seems like a common sense thing. Obviously, your

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Speaker 2: more money. The health serve as a mess. There's too

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Speaker 2: We don't have enough doctors. But really, is the problem

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Speaker 3: I agree with a lot of what you've just said there,

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Speaker 3: but I think there are leavers or things that the

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Speaker 3: It's just a bottless pit of money that we're checking in.

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Speaker 3: It should be for those who are desperately ill or

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Speaker 3: much KFC. So what do you think the government should do?

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Speaker 3: I think there are ways that they could direct people

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Speaker 3: whether that is and again. I'm gonna get whipped on

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Speaker 3: the text machine here and I'm ready for it. But

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Speaker 3: whether that is making the right food a bit cheaper

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Speaker 2: Right directions to go to, you can do all that,

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Speaker 2: It's not that the government needs to make this food

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Speaker 2: It's it's that the message needs to be your health

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Speaker 3: Afternoon. It is twenty pass one. And whose responsibility is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nicely said, Oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 10: The government is having a crack at cross party support

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Speaker 11: We're keen to try and achieve some suits and teacher

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Speaker 3: It's twenty seven past one, and we've asked the question,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 3: Come on, am I isn't he give them heaps?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm a huge believer in personal responsibility, don't get

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Speaker 6: Specifically what I'd be talking about would be growing vegetables

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Speaker 2: I don't think we're as far apart as you think

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Speaker 2: But my point is really that the messaging should change,

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Speaker 2: not there to save you. They're there to help you

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Speaker 2: if things go wrong and help you through your journey

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Speaker 2: through life. But it's in partnership.

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Speaker 3: They're not.

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Speaker 13: I agree.

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Speaker 6: I agree with you, But like I really think it's

447
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Speaker 6: about getting people to come along on the road. And

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Speaker 6: I think if we just say to people, actually, your

449
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Speaker 6: health is your responsibility and you know your you are

450
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Speaker 6: where you are because of your choices of life, which

451
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Speaker 6: which could be true, but I don't hope that's actually

452
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Speaker 6: very helpful to changing the situation. I think much better

453
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Speaker 6: to Don't.

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Speaker 3: People love that?

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Speaker 2: Don't people love being able to take charge of things?

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Speaker 12: Though?

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Speaker 2: Isn't that what purpose and meaning in life comes in?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you mean give me you Me and Tyler probably do.

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Speaker 6: But I think there'd be groups of people will be said,

460
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Speaker 6: our cats on you. You know, your health is your responsibility.

461
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Speaker 6: I don't know that will work with all groups. And

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Speaker 6: I think empowering local community organizations like you know, the

463
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Speaker 6: Butterbean Foundations things like that, and empowering like primary schools

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Speaker 6: to give because of an education around healthy eating and

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Speaker 6: so and so on. And I hear you as read

466
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Speaker 6: the thing that's up to the parents. I get it,

467
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Speaker 6: But if the parents aren't doing that, I really think

468
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Speaker 6: the primary school is a good place to get becauds

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Speaker 6: when they're really young and teach them good skills around

470
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Speaker 6: healthy eating and health and life.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're not going to ever convince everyone to do something,

472
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Speaker 2: but I think if the ethos sort of a morality

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Speaker 2: through society is that your health is your own responsibility.

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Speaker 2: Even if it's only a small percentage of people that

475
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Speaker 2: you change from thinking their health system is there to

476
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Speaker 2: save you, then I think that's enough to take the

477
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Speaker 2: pressure off because right now we're living in this more

478
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Speaker 2: modern world that we're living in right now, and technology

479
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Speaker 2: is increasing, and we have all these amazing medical advancements,

480
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Speaker 2: and yet we're getting more unhealthy, and the health system

481
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Speaker 2: is getting more and more overrun, and we're just throwing

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Speaker 2: more and more money at it. So it's definitely not

483
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Speaker 2: going to be the complete solution, Ray, but I believe

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Speaker 2: it should be part of the solution that we change.

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Speaker 2: We attempt to change the thinking on the house service.

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Speaker 6: Maybe it's both those things, telling people they're responsible for

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Speaker 6: their health and investing in programs, which has shown being

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Speaker 6: official two children as they grown adults.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I agree. I think we agree.

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Speaker 3: Ray. Yep, very good, Ray, Thank you very much. O

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Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 3: We've got headlines with Ray Lean and full boards. If

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Speaker 3: you can't get through, keep trying. Oh, eight hundred eighty

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Speaker 3: ten eighty. It is twenty eight to two US talks.

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Speaker 14: At the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's no trouble

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Speaker 14: with a blue bubble. Cordon's are now down at Midnapada's

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Speaker 14: police station after officers spent the morning outside negotiating through

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Speaker 14: a loud speaker with a person inside.

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Speaker 3: The station.

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Speaker 14: Door glass is smashed and armed police have re entered.

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Speaker 14: A twenty three year old man aggressively driving a stolen

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Speaker 14: vehicle down to its wheel rooms has been arrested in

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Speaker 14: Auckland after ramming cars at an on ramp. The Greens

504
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Speaker 14: are expressing doubts over random roadside drug testing, saying Mary

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Speaker 14: and Pacifica will be targeted. A bills past its third

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Speaker 14: reading in Parliament and rollout should begin late this year.

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Speaker 14: National says it had no doubt the gang patch ban

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Speaker 14: would be successful after the police Deputy commissioners said it's

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Speaker 14: allowed staff more control. Infrastructure Minister Chris Bishop says a

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Speaker 14: second harbor crossing for Auckland's high on the priority list

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Speaker 14: and a barge is currently doing geotechnical work. Simon Wilson

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Speaker 14: on the real reasons for Winston Peters war on Wokness.

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Speaker 2: You can see the full column at end, said Herald Premium.

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Speaker 2: Back to Matt Eathan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Raylian. We're talking about personal responsibility

516
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Speaker 3: when it comes to our health on the back of

517
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Speaker 3: an interview that was done with Winston Peters.

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Speaker 2: That's right, and he said, I think diet is absolutely crucial.

519
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Speaker 2: And the reality is I don't think we can win

520
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Speaker 2: this battle in terms of the health system in this

521
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Speaker 2: country unless there is a massive dietary change. And look,

522
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Speaker 2: Winston Peters is eighty. He's sharp as attack as that

523
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Speaker 2: audio played before some young people looking at him and going, boy,

524
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Speaker 2: you have not aged in my life. He looks great.

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Speaker 2: He does have great genes though, because he's got ten

526
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Speaker 2: of his siblings are in their eighties and his mum

527
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Speaker 2: lived to ninety six, so there is a genetic element

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Speaker 2: to it. But he's also all about munching on the

529
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Speaker 2: fish heads for the amiaga. And although you've got to

530
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Speaker 2: say with Winston Peters, he's at the odd dart, he said,

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Speaker 2: the other risky. They have not driven life.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you.

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Speaker 2: Would say he's an example of a of a powerful

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Speaker 2: eighty year old.

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Speaker 3: Clearly he takes it seriously. His diet. Quick couple of

536
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Speaker 3: texts and we'll get to more of your phone calls

537
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Speaker 3: like this one. Guys. I work for Fletchers and we

538
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Speaker 3: get a full free health check every year. Plus we

539
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Speaker 3: have free access to an act called Sounder, who you

540
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Speaker 3: can talk to just about anyone health, financial exercise. It

541
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Speaker 3: is free for our family members as well. I believe

542
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Speaker 3: companies have a right and expectation to look after their staff.

543
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Speaker 3: Healthy and mentally healthy staff equals less sickly. It's a

544
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Speaker 3: win win, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But I think if you empower people and you tell

546
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Speaker 2: them that that's the one of the one of their

547
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Speaker 2: one of their missions in life, one of the things

548
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Speaker 2: they have to do is to be healthy. I think

549
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Speaker 2: whether it's a company or the country as a whole,

550
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Speaker 2: then I think people will lean into it. I just

551
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Speaker 2: don't think that's that that people walk around going, it's

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Speaker 2: my job to stay healthy for the good of the

553
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Speaker 2: health system. I think people walk around going it's the

554
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Speaker 2: country's job to me healthy, whether it's taxing this or

555
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Speaker 2: sorting this out or fixing me up. This text to

556
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Speaker 2: here says a doctor at hospital, timing ninety percent of

557
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Speaker 2: his work was a result of personal action. Bad diet,

558
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Speaker 2: lack of exercise, smoking, drinking, advertising plays a huge part

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Speaker 2: in bad lifestyle choices and advertising works. But I would say,

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Speaker 2: you know, and the people decide, there will always to

561
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Speaker 2: be temptations in life, and this you work out how

562
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Speaker 2: you combat temptation. And sometimes the best way to combat

563
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Speaker 2: temptation is to have a mission and.

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Speaker 3: A purpose that you're working towards. Because you can do

565
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Speaker 3: whatever you want.

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Speaker 2: About the temptations, there'll be another temptation. Yeah, that's just

567
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Speaker 2: the way it works. You can't hide people from everything.

568
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Speaker 2: You can't protect people from absolutely everything.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and as we all know, when you are fit

570
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Speaker 3: and healthy, life is just generally better. But trying to

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Speaker 3: get that message to people out there, I mean, that's

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Speaker 3: what I'm confused about. Why is there that percentage of

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Speaker 3: the population that don't understand that that if they are

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Speaker 3: fitter and healthier and they look after themselves, it's not

575
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Speaker 3: so much for them about a less of a strain

576
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Speaker 3: on the health system. You will be a happier person,

577
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Speaker 3: You will do better at life generally by being fitter

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Speaker 3: and healthier.

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Speaker 2: Mental health, as someone says, does taking personal responsibility for

580
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Speaker 2: one's mental health account and this taking responsibility your health, Yeah, well,

581
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Speaker 2: if you take responsibility for the other parts of your health,

582
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Speaker 2: your mental health, will will can can come along with it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And I like just to you know, go back to

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Speaker 2: the COVID times. There was never a message in COVID

585
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Speaker 2: times that look, if you're healthy, you've got a much

586
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Speaker 2: better chance of fighting this illness and getting through it quicker,

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Speaker 2: you know. And if you're very, very healthy, then this

588
00:27:43,813 --> 00:27:46,693
Speaker 2: illness is not not very dangerous. But if you're if

589
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Speaker 2: you're if you're unhealthy, then this illness could be dangerous.

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Speaker 2: So I was always surprised, right through lockdowns that the

591
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Speaker 2: messaging from what from the government wasn't eat well and

592
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Speaker 2: exercise and strengthen yourself for the potential of catching this virus.

593
00:28:03,573 --> 00:28:07,213
Speaker 2: But that message should be across everything. You know, eat

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Speaker 2: well and exercise and strengthen yourself to take on this

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Speaker 2: life and whatever comes that way.

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Speaker 3: It's a great campaign.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, there's those my thoughts. What about yours? Donner?

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Speaker 12: Hey guys, boy, this is a complex topic, isn't it.

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Speaker 8: Wait?

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Speaker 3: Really?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, firstly, they you need to read a book called

602
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Speaker 12: The Great Cholesteromas. I've got that to thank for not

603
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Speaker 12: actually being on statins. I was prescribed those probably gosh

604
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Speaker 12: eighteen years ago now. But yeah, one thing I will

605
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Speaker 12: say is you can't exercise your way out of a

606
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Speaker 12: bad diet. And the thing is, you don't know what

607
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Speaker 12: a bad diet is. If you don't know what you

608
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Speaker 12: don't know if you know what I mean. Yeah, Dr

609
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Speaker 12: b Weaver sort of lives by the mantra of up

610
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Speaker 12: your greens and eat as cleanly as you can. And

611
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Speaker 12: there's a couple called the Healthy Patch Formula. If you

612
00:28:58,933 --> 00:29:02,013
Speaker 12: look them up, you're an Australian couple. They're huge on

613
00:29:02,133 --> 00:29:05,173
Speaker 12: doing organics and growing your own sort of leafy greens

614
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Speaker 12: and that sort of thing. And it's a really really

615
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Speaker 12: cheap way to get healthier. And it makes a huge

616
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Speaker 12: difference because whatever you're eating, you're eating whatever it's eaten.

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Speaker 12: So if you're eating a letters that's full of kepticides

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Speaker 12: with no nitrogen and you know, all the all the

619
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Speaker 12: fundamentals and minerals that you need from soil, you're really

620
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Speaker 12: not getting the things that your body needs at a

621
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Speaker 12: cellular level. Sorry to get too deep, but this is

622
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Speaker 12: just all the types.

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Speaker 2: Of books I've gotten read because you like Donald.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I just yeah, I've probably read about hard and

625
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Speaker 12: five hundred books. And there's a guy called Robert Louvestick

626
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Speaker 12: from the States, who was actually a surgeon on for children,

627
00:29:44,493 --> 00:29:46,733
Speaker 12: and he actually had to give it away because he said,

628
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Speaker 12: at the top level, you know, people aren't just getting

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Speaker 12: educated on you know, bad oils and trogolessrides and all

630
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Speaker 12: of those things. That He's got a book called Metabolical,

631
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Speaker 12: which you might find really interesting. But yeah, if you

632
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Speaker 12: take it back to the fundamentals of caveman food, that's

633
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Speaker 12: what we should be eating, not pet beside laden, yeah saying,

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Speaker 12: and not meat if it's got antibiotics, because you're trying

635
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Speaker 12: not to eat antibiotics and at the end of the

636
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Speaker 12: day to get your gut microbiome going. That's one of

637
00:30:17,733 --> 00:30:21,613
Speaker 12: the biggest health things. But yeah, it's just kind of

638
00:30:21,693 --> 00:30:25,213
Speaker 12: like it's multifested. I just think if we come at

639
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Speaker 12: it from an education level at school, so kids at

640
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Speaker 12: least know what healthy.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting that though, Donna, when I was a kid,

642
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Speaker 2: so we were, I used to think I was being

643
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Speaker 2: healthy if I ate pasta and if I ate piles

644
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Speaker 2: and piles of white bread, because bread was healthy for you.

645
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Speaker 2: And also I was so uneducated that I thought RaRo

646
00:30:44,733 --> 00:30:48,653
Speaker 2: was good for you because it was orange juice. And

647
00:30:48,693 --> 00:30:53,253
Speaker 2: it's definitely delicious. But yeah, yeah, I just when we

648
00:30:53,293 --> 00:30:56,333
Speaker 2: thought we were doing the right thing, it was actually

649
00:30:56,413 --> 00:31:03,133
Speaker 2: the wrong thing. So knowing so absolutely within my idea

650
00:31:03,333 --> 00:31:05,733
Speaker 2: that the messaging from the government should be that your

651
00:31:05,773 --> 00:31:08,253
Speaker 2: health is your own responsibility, and your children's health is

652
00:31:08,373 --> 00:31:11,973
Speaker 2: your responsibility as well. Should also be what is healthy

653
00:31:12,453 --> 00:31:15,293
Speaker 2: that there should be there should be education on that

654
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Speaker 2: as well. So the primary thing is that your health

655
00:31:18,173 --> 00:31:21,653
Speaker 2: is your own responsible. Secondary to that is just let's

656
00:31:21,693 --> 00:31:25,413
Speaker 2: get out there what is actually healthy, because I would

657
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Speaker 2: have been just punishing RaRo going good on me? This

658
00:31:28,213 --> 00:31:28,893
Speaker 2: is this is health.

659
00:31:29,533 --> 00:31:30,493
Speaker 3: It's good to say I.

660
00:31:30,413 --> 00:31:33,093
Speaker 12: Put brainsys and cigarettes I had in my earlier days

661
00:31:33,093 --> 00:31:33,493
Speaker 12: were good.

662
00:31:33,373 --> 00:31:33,773
Speaker 3: For me too.

663
00:31:34,133 --> 00:31:37,493
Speaker 12: And I tell you certainly learn, you know, like, but

664
00:31:37,533 --> 00:31:39,653
Speaker 12: it's just one thing, like I do find that doctor.

665
00:31:39,693 --> 00:31:41,733
Speaker 12: I mean, doctors are fantastic, don't get me wrong, but

666
00:31:42,493 --> 00:31:46,693
Speaker 12: you know they they are taught primarily to help people

667
00:31:46,693 --> 00:31:49,013
Speaker 12: out when they come there, diagnose and medicate. I mean,

668
00:31:49,173 --> 00:31:52,173
Speaker 12: they're they're there to help you that way. But I

669
00:31:52,213 --> 00:31:54,453
Speaker 12: mean when I took this book into my doctor and said, look,

670
00:31:54,493 --> 00:31:57,413
Speaker 12: I don't want status and I've got mike cholesterol down

671
00:31:57,493 --> 00:32:00,173
Speaker 12: myself through just amping up my grains and changing, you know,

672
00:32:00,173 --> 00:32:02,733
Speaker 12: a few things. But he wanted to read it. He

673
00:32:02,853 --> 00:32:05,213
Speaker 12: was actually open to reading it because, like you said, hey,

674
00:32:05,253 --> 00:32:07,133
Speaker 12: what's the title? Wrote it down and actually got a

675
00:32:07,133 --> 00:32:09,253
Speaker 12: copy and see, do you know, because you know, we

676
00:32:09,293 --> 00:32:12,773
Speaker 12: don't get a lot of education actually on health it is,

677
00:32:13,373 --> 00:32:15,533
Speaker 12: you know, on how to really do that. But honestly, guys,

678
00:32:15,533 --> 00:32:18,093
Speaker 12: look up the healthy patch formula and i'sie and just

679
00:32:18,173 --> 00:32:20,933
Speaker 12: if you want a good back garden with loads of

680
00:32:20,973 --> 00:32:24,173
Speaker 12: greens on at a cheap price and pesticides organic free,

681
00:32:24,213 --> 00:32:27,413
Speaker 12: you know what I mean? Yeah, you just you won't

682
00:32:27,413 --> 00:32:28,293
Speaker 12: look back.

683
00:32:28,053 --> 00:32:30,573
Speaker 3: That's good. Sounds like a good read. Just on what

684
00:32:30,613 --> 00:32:34,013
Speaker 3: Donna was saying though, on the whole foods. And this

685
00:32:34,053 --> 00:32:36,493
Speaker 3: is where I think it gets complex, is that we

686
00:32:36,533 --> 00:32:40,133
Speaker 3: are surrounded by ultra processed food. Now it is everywhere,

687
00:32:40,173 --> 00:32:42,453
Speaker 3: and it is for some people kind of hard to

688
00:32:42,533 --> 00:32:45,573
Speaker 3: determine the difference is this healthy? Is this full of crap?

689
00:32:45,693 --> 00:32:47,613
Speaker 3: How much sugar is in this salt all the rest

690
00:32:47,653 --> 00:32:52,173
Speaker 3: of it. It's confusing. Whereas ten, twenty, thirty, forty years ago,

691
00:32:52,453 --> 00:32:55,013
Speaker 3: we didn't have that same confusion. It was a lot

692
00:32:55,053 --> 00:32:57,213
Speaker 3: easier to find those whole foods. Most of us had

693
00:32:57,253 --> 00:32:59,493
Speaker 3: them in our pantries. Is not that hard tyler a

694
00:32:59,573 --> 00:33:05,493
Speaker 3: potato healthy? Yeah, potato chip not healthy? The oil, that's

695
00:33:05,973 --> 00:33:07,213
Speaker 3: that's the difference, you know.

696
00:33:07,533 --> 00:33:07,733
Speaker 7: Yeah.

697
00:33:07,773 --> 00:33:09,893
Speaker 3: But then I, for example, if I get those little

698
00:33:10,453 --> 00:33:13,533
Speaker 3: foods balls they call them, you know, those little chocolate balls,

699
00:33:13,613 --> 00:33:17,093
Speaker 3: and it's in the health aisle of the supermarket. Clearly

700
00:33:17,173 --> 00:33:19,653
Speaker 3: they are not health food. They are just full of

701
00:33:19,773 --> 00:33:23,293
Speaker 3: sugar and crap. And because I've got dates in them somehow.

702
00:33:23,133 --> 00:33:26,453
Speaker 2: I mean that the whole health food market is rife

703
00:33:26,453 --> 00:33:28,613
Speaker 2: with scams. That was the other thing in the COVID

704
00:33:28,613 --> 00:33:30,813
Speaker 2: lockdown areas when the government was telling us not to

705
00:33:30,813 --> 00:33:32,493
Speaker 2: do our own research on our own health. That was

706
00:33:32,533 --> 00:33:35,213
Speaker 2: a weird message that came through. Because absolutely, in your

707
00:33:35,213 --> 00:33:38,173
Speaker 2: life you should take charge of your own health. But

708
00:33:38,293 --> 00:33:41,093
Speaker 2: also you should read up about it and become an

709
00:33:41,133 --> 00:33:43,413
Speaker 2: expert on it, because that is the whole thing that

710
00:33:43,493 --> 00:33:47,413
Speaker 2: is your life. You know, your life is determined in

711
00:33:47,453 --> 00:33:49,373
Speaker 2: the enjoyment of your life by your health. So you

712
00:33:49,373 --> 00:33:51,853
Speaker 2: should absolutely one hundred percent look into it.

713
00:33:52,013 --> 00:33:54,453
Speaker 3: Libraries are free, Yeah, absolutely, Oh, eight hundred and eighty

714
00:33:54,453 --> 00:33:57,213
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call. It is fourteen

715
00:33:57,493 --> 00:33:57,933
Speaker 3: to two.

716
00:33:59,373 --> 00:34:02,453
Speaker 5: Have a chat with the lads on eight eighty eighty.

717
00:34:02,653 --> 00:34:06,053
Speaker 1: Matt and Taylor afternoons with the Volvo xc N eighty

718
00:34:06,173 --> 00:34:10,413
Speaker 1: ticking every box a seamless expweeds news talk sa'd.

719
00:34:10,172 --> 00:34:13,933
Speaker 3: Be afternoon twelve to two, and we're talking about personal

720
00:34:13,933 --> 00:34:16,493
Speaker 3: responsibility when it comes to our own health.

721
00:34:16,813 --> 00:34:18,173
Speaker 2: You got this text from Paul here. I was a

722
00:34:18,213 --> 00:34:20,172
Speaker 2: beast from the age of three until I was sixty five.

723
00:34:20,173 --> 00:34:22,172
Speaker 2: I ended up with diabetes and heart disease. I spent

724
00:34:22,213 --> 00:34:24,293
Speaker 2: a lot of my life blaming everyone except myself. I

725
00:34:24,333 --> 00:34:27,093
Speaker 2: then took responsibility and pushed to have a gastric bypass.

726
00:34:27,333 --> 00:34:29,453
Speaker 2: I went from two hundred and twenty kg down to

727
00:34:29,493 --> 00:34:31,733
Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty kg and the public HOSPE will

728
00:34:31,773 --> 00:34:33,893
Speaker 2: help me to have a gastric bypass when I got

729
00:34:33,893 --> 00:34:37,133
Speaker 2: down to one sixty I'm now seventy three kg jeez,

730
00:34:37,213 --> 00:34:39,773
Speaker 2: with no diabetes, and my heart is now healthy. I

731
00:34:39,813 --> 00:34:42,013
Speaker 2: lost all that weight six years ago. I also now

732
00:34:42,053 --> 00:34:44,293
Speaker 2: walk over ten k and steps a day and exercise

733
00:34:44,373 --> 00:34:47,253
Speaker 2: for two hours every week at the gym. I'm now

734
00:34:47,293 --> 00:34:49,693
Speaker 2: sixty eight and fitted than I've ever been in my life. Unfortunately,

735
00:34:49,773 --> 00:34:51,893
Speaker 2: I now have stage four cancer. Oh God, sorry to

736
00:34:51,893 --> 00:34:54,493
Speaker 2: hear that, so have to get chemo and radiation treatment.

737
00:34:54,693 --> 00:34:57,693
Speaker 2: I'm sure that I'll beat it now, but I am healthy.

738
00:34:57,893 --> 00:35:01,293
Speaker 2: That's from Paul. I mean, yeah, that's that's a great story.

739
00:35:01,333 --> 00:35:03,933
Speaker 2: Thanks for during that, Paul. Yeah, and all the best

740
00:35:04,333 --> 00:35:07,373
Speaker 2: and with the cancer. So I'm sorry to hear that, mate.

741
00:35:07,213 --> 00:35:10,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks very much, Paul. Derek, what's your thoughts on this?

742
00:35:11,373 --> 00:35:15,093
Speaker 15: I mean, right, so with heads shocking and or shocking

743
00:35:15,253 --> 00:35:18,213
Speaker 15: or advertising as far as alcohol goes, you know, like

744
00:35:18,253 --> 00:35:22,053
Speaker 15: family violence, car accidents, even drug is even smoking with her.

745
00:35:22,093 --> 00:35:25,013
Speaker 15: You know, pictures of someone's lungs, but I haven't really

746
00:35:25,013 --> 00:35:27,013
Speaker 15: seen it. When it comes to be an overweight or obese.

747
00:35:27,613 --> 00:35:29,493
Speaker 15: I had to explain to someone the other day, he's

748
00:35:29,573 --> 00:35:31,733
Speaker 15: rather large if he's back. When you're born, you know,

749
00:35:32,093 --> 00:35:34,013
Speaker 15: when you're a little scooter, you get this little motor,

750
00:35:34,053 --> 00:35:36,253
Speaker 15: and you know, and you get older, you become afford

751
00:35:36,253 --> 00:35:38,453
Speaker 15: all swoon car and you've still got this motor to

752
00:35:38,533 --> 00:35:41,053
Speaker 15: drive you. You you might even become an suv and

753
00:35:41,293 --> 00:35:43,093
Speaker 15: that mode will still do you. But if you want

754
00:35:43,133 --> 00:35:44,853
Speaker 15: to become a truck and trailer, you know, this a

755
00:35:44,853 --> 00:35:47,292
Speaker 15: little motor it's going to give up. It just can't

756
00:35:47,373 --> 00:35:50,853
Speaker 15: drive you. Sorry, I could. That's the only way I

757
00:35:50,853 --> 00:35:53,373
Speaker 15: could get through to them, you know, And he said, well, no,

758
00:35:53,573 --> 00:35:56,453
Speaker 15: actually explained it like that. I mean, we don't see

759
00:35:56,533 --> 00:35:59,853
Speaker 15: enough of what what's going to actually happen if you

760
00:35:59,893 --> 00:36:03,652
Speaker 15: continue to eat the way you are and advertising, I mean,

761
00:36:03,693 --> 00:36:06,013
Speaker 15: I know it's hard to sort of show that and

762
00:36:06,013 --> 00:36:07,493
Speaker 15: a lot of people won't take it. Well, it will

763
00:36:07,493 --> 00:36:09,813
Speaker 15: probably cause him to de pret But I mean, you go

764
00:36:09,853 --> 00:36:11,533
Speaker 15: into an old series of Top ten, do you look

765
00:36:11,573 --> 00:36:14,292
Speaker 15: into the crowd. There might be one out of every

766
00:36:14,333 --> 00:36:18,053
Speaker 15: thirty people that's overweight. No, it's just a progression thing

767
00:36:18,133 --> 00:36:21,333
Speaker 15: that's happened. I don't know, it's crazy, and now I

768
00:36:21,333 --> 00:36:23,013
Speaker 15: feel real sorry for the health system.

769
00:36:23,133 --> 00:36:25,453
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you know you say there's never been an AD,

770
00:36:25,493 --> 00:36:28,813
Speaker 2: I remember this, and Derek maybe you do, But there

771
00:36:28,853 --> 00:36:29,413
Speaker 2: was an ad.

772
00:36:30,173 --> 00:36:31,812
Speaker 3: It's deep in my memory.

773
00:36:31,853 --> 00:36:34,133
Speaker 2: I remember watching it at my grandmother's house and there's

774
00:36:34,173 --> 00:36:37,013
Speaker 2: a man sitting down and he's eating pipeleots, and his

775
00:36:37,053 --> 00:36:39,613
Speaker 2: grandma keeps handing on the pipelots and every time he

776
00:36:39,653 --> 00:36:44,573
Speaker 2: eats a pipelet, this heart and can anyone one hundred

777
00:36:44,573 --> 00:36:46,933
Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty nine nine two can anyone remember

778
00:36:46,933 --> 00:36:48,973
Speaker 2: this ad? So it was basically an ad saying that

779
00:36:49,293 --> 00:36:52,773
Speaker 2: every pipelet you know, like overfeeding your your grandkids or

780
00:36:52,773 --> 00:36:55,973
Speaker 2: your grand or someone. I can't remember who was being fed,

781
00:36:56,093 --> 00:36:58,733
Speaker 2: but someone was being over feed in this PSA, this

782
00:36:58,813 --> 00:37:00,973
Speaker 2: public service and amount some ad. Do you remember that

783
00:37:01,013 --> 00:37:03,213
Speaker 2: at all, Derek Dereck.

784
00:37:03,013 --> 00:37:07,053
Speaker 3: No, I mean I've got the message across the when

785
00:37:07,093 --> 00:37:07,493
Speaker 3: I started.

786
00:37:08,093 --> 00:37:09,573
Speaker 2: Let's you don't want to start a reminiscing.

787
00:37:09,613 --> 00:37:12,373
Speaker 3: He hang up on me right, Oh, eight hundred eighty

788
00:37:12,373 --> 00:37:14,212
Speaker 3: ten eighty If you remember that ad and we'll try

789
00:37:14,213 --> 00:37:16,172
Speaker 3: and track it down, love to hear from you. But also,

790
00:37:16,453 --> 00:37:19,373
Speaker 3: whose responsibility is your own health? Does a government have

791
00:37:19,493 --> 00:37:23,172
Speaker 3: any responsibility or is it down to you and lifestyle choice.

792
00:37:23,173 --> 00:37:26,773
Speaker 2: I think the government has some responsibility obviously, because you know,

793
00:37:26,813 --> 00:37:28,093
Speaker 2: we want to have that. They need to be a

794
00:37:28,133 --> 00:37:31,252
Speaker 2: backstop when things go wrong, when there's trauma in your life.

795
00:37:31,293 --> 00:37:33,853
Speaker 2: We don't want to just let people die. But just

796
00:37:34,013 --> 00:37:36,613
Speaker 2: morally across life, do we need to get the message

797
00:37:36,653 --> 00:37:39,893
Speaker 2: out there that your health is your responsibility? And if

798
00:37:39,933 --> 00:37:43,133
Speaker 2: the health service gets involved, then they get involved as

799
00:37:43,133 --> 00:37:47,413
Speaker 2: a partnership. They're not there to solve the problem. It's

800
00:37:47,413 --> 00:37:48,013
Speaker 2: a partnership.

801
00:37:48,053 --> 00:37:49,973
Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

802
00:37:50,053 --> 00:37:50,813
Speaker 3: It is eight to.

803
00:37:50,773 --> 00:37:55,973
Speaker 1: Two Matteath Taylor Adams taking your calls on Oh, eight

804
00:37:56,053 --> 00:37:59,453
Speaker 1: hundred eighty ten eighty Matten Taylor afternoon with the Volvo

805
00:37:59,773 --> 00:38:03,493
Speaker 1: XC to eighty tick every box, a seamless experience awaits

806
00:38:03,613 --> 00:38:04,493
Speaker 1: news dogs end.

807
00:38:04,373 --> 00:38:08,973
Speaker 3: Be it is five to two. Going to carry this

808
00:38:09,093 --> 00:38:11,333
Speaker 3: on after two o'clock because we've had so many people

809
00:38:11,453 --> 00:38:13,173
Speaker 3: who want to have a chat about this. But a

810
00:38:13,173 --> 00:38:17,693
Speaker 3: couple of texts to the news Tyler fruits and veggie's

811
00:38:17,733 --> 00:38:20,693
Speaker 3: are reasonable price in season, there are farmers markets and

812
00:38:20,733 --> 00:38:25,053
Speaker 3: frozen veggies are nutritious and cheap. People are lazy to

813
00:38:25,133 --> 00:38:28,292
Speaker 3: cook at themselves and buy good products at the right time.

814
00:38:28,333 --> 00:38:30,692
Speaker 3: They just need to learn this text. So, hey, guys,

815
00:38:30,733 --> 00:38:32,613
Speaker 3: are you right? Managing your health is down to you.

816
00:38:33,133 --> 00:38:35,693
Speaker 3: There is a system operating with some medical centers. You

817
00:38:35,733 --> 00:38:37,652
Speaker 3: sign up for how manage your health. It has an

818
00:38:37,693 --> 00:38:40,893
Speaker 3: app that shows all the scripts, allergies, medications, doctors, visits

819
00:38:40,893 --> 00:38:44,853
Speaker 3: and info from visit, vaccination as a hospital, appearances and stuff.

820
00:38:44,973 --> 00:38:47,333
Speaker 2: Very handy and informative about your health for you to

821
00:38:47,573 --> 00:38:50,732
Speaker 2: see and deal with. Maybe more people should have this. Yeah,

822
00:38:50,813 --> 00:38:52,213
Speaker 2: maybe there's.

823
00:38:52,053 --> 00:38:57,253
Speaker 3: An interesting one ah, boy boy, where is this one gone?

824
00:38:58,093 --> 00:39:00,613
Speaker 2: Yeah? Here it is. Is the health system so bad

825
00:39:00,653 --> 00:39:05,093
Speaker 2: because nobody is responsible? Or is that the health system itself?

826
00:39:05,293 --> 00:39:07,413
Speaker 2: Doesn't it? Why does it take so long to access

827
00:39:07,413 --> 00:39:09,493
Speaker 2: care by a specialist to the public health system? Is

828
00:39:09,533 --> 00:39:11,692
Speaker 2: this because the public are not responsible for their health?

829
00:39:11,933 --> 00:39:14,253
Speaker 2: I think not. Look how terrible the house system is run.

830
00:39:14,773 --> 00:39:18,533
Speaker 2: Many people are responsible, but get crap. Here that's from Sally. Yeah,

831
00:39:18,573 --> 00:39:21,733
Speaker 2: but I mean that's because the health system is clogged exactly.

832
00:39:21,773 --> 00:39:23,493
Speaker 2: I would say, yeah, I would say that you would

833
00:39:23,533 --> 00:39:25,413
Speaker 2: have it would be much easier to get specialist care

834
00:39:25,573 --> 00:39:28,853
Speaker 2: if there weren't so many pressures from people not taking

835
00:39:28,853 --> 00:39:29,613
Speaker 2: care of their own health.

836
00:39:29,693 --> 00:39:32,373
Speaker 3: Yep, right, We're gonna carry this on. So oh eight

837
00:39:32,373 --> 00:39:34,893
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to

838
00:39:34,893 --> 00:39:38,213
Speaker 3: call love to hear your thoughts on whose responsibility is

839
00:39:38,253 --> 00:39:41,813
Speaker 3: your own health? New Sport and Weather on its way.

840
00:39:41,853 --> 00:39:43,933
Speaker 3: Great to have your company as always, you're listening to

841
00:39:43,933 --> 00:39:46,253
Speaker 3: Matt and Tyler with you until four p m. We'll

842
00:39:46,293 --> 00:39:47,333
Speaker 3: see you on the other.

843
00:39:47,213 --> 00:39:52,653
Speaker 9: Side on the out of you know, stan Chunk on your.

844
00:39:55,453 --> 00:39:56,213
Speaker 3: In the clouds.

845
00:39:56,813 --> 00:40:18,693
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's no on you all afternoon.

846
00:40:18,933 --> 00:40:24,133
Speaker 1: It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons with the VOLVOSGZB.

847
00:40:25,373 --> 00:40:27,732
Speaker 3: Good afternoon, welcome back into the show. So we had

848
00:40:27,813 --> 00:40:29,973
Speaker 3: such a great discussion last hour. We are going to

849
00:40:29,973 --> 00:40:32,373
Speaker 3: carry it on. But just before we do that, met

850
00:40:32,453 --> 00:40:34,652
Speaker 3: you're a very very happy boy at the moment, aren't you.

851
00:40:34,773 --> 00:40:36,732
Speaker 2: It's little things in life, you know, and you've got

852
00:40:36,733 --> 00:40:39,093
Speaker 2: to celebrate the victories. I lost my swipe card to

853
00:40:39,093 --> 00:40:41,933
Speaker 2: get into the building, and I've just been hampered in

854
00:40:41,973 --> 00:40:46,053
Speaker 2: my life because there's fourth white. I think I've go forth.

855
00:40:46,053 --> 00:40:47,813
Speaker 2: I've have to swipe my way through four doors to

856
00:40:47,813 --> 00:40:50,973
Speaker 2: turn into this building. It's the my costing protection system

857
00:40:51,013 --> 00:40:54,172
Speaker 2: we've got here. Just stop stop fans getting into trying

858
00:40:54,173 --> 00:40:57,093
Speaker 2: to get his autograph from selfiast with them. So if

859
00:40:57,093 --> 00:40:59,413
Speaker 2: you don't have your card, it is very hard to

860
00:40:59,413 --> 00:41:02,893
Speaker 2: get around this building painful. It's very hard for me

861
00:41:02,933 --> 00:41:06,053
Speaker 2: to get into my park. So boy, oh boy, the

862
00:41:06,093 --> 00:41:07,973
Speaker 2: good people of ZIB have just sorted out.

863
00:41:07,813 --> 00:41:09,573
Speaker 3: My card and it's got your little name on it

864
00:41:09,653 --> 00:41:10,933
Speaker 3: and everything. That's nice.

865
00:41:10,973 --> 00:41:15,253
Speaker 2: Mane at that. So now I'm now I'm available too.

866
00:41:15,453 --> 00:41:16,773
Speaker 2: I can go to the bathroom again.

867
00:41:18,213 --> 00:41:18,732
Speaker 3: Life's good.

868
00:41:18,733 --> 00:41:21,413
Speaker 2: I'm available to help people on all seven floors of

869
00:41:21,453 --> 00:41:21,973
Speaker 2: this building.

870
00:41:22,093 --> 00:41:24,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm free. Life is good.

871
00:41:24,133 --> 00:41:26,693
Speaker 2: You've got to celebrate the winds people. And it was

872
00:41:26,733 --> 00:41:28,853
Speaker 2: worth losing my swiper.

873
00:41:29,173 --> 00:41:32,093
Speaker 3: Just just for how good it feels to have it back.

874
00:41:32,413 --> 00:41:34,213
Speaker 3: And can we give a shout out to and she

875
00:41:34,293 --> 00:41:37,373
Speaker 3: solves everything in this building and Marie again, and Marie

876
00:41:37,413 --> 00:41:39,613
Speaker 3: to the rescue. Is there anything that woman can't do?

877
00:41:39,733 --> 00:41:41,812
Speaker 2: She's absolutely the best of us.

878
00:41:41,773 --> 00:41:44,533
Speaker 3: Keeping this place. Running right back to the discussion we're

879
00:41:44,533 --> 00:41:47,252
Speaker 3: having about personal responsibility when it comes to your house.

880
00:41:47,253 --> 00:41:50,453
Speaker 2: That's responsibility when it comes to looking after your key swiper.

881
00:41:50,733 --> 00:41:53,213
Speaker 3: That's next. Now we'll do that one tomorrow after one o'clock.

882
00:41:53,733 --> 00:41:57,172
Speaker 3: There's some great texts coming through. But just to row back,

883
00:41:57,213 --> 00:41:59,733
Speaker 3: it was on the back of an interview with Winston Peters.

884
00:41:59,853 --> 00:42:01,493
Speaker 3: That interview was meant to be about his trip to

885
00:42:01,533 --> 00:42:04,973
Speaker 3: the u WES, but the reporter, Audrey Young, focus on

886
00:42:05,013 --> 00:42:08,533
Speaker 3: something far more interesting, his longevity as a human being

887
00:42:08,573 --> 00:42:09,853
Speaker 3: in a politician. Yeah went that.

888
00:42:09,813 --> 00:42:12,173
Speaker 2: Way, didn't it. And you know we had we had

889
00:42:12,213 --> 00:42:14,573
Speaker 2: played some audio before of these two young people coming

890
00:42:14,613 --> 00:42:16,373
Speaker 2: up towards and Peters and going, how do you look

891
00:42:16,413 --> 00:42:20,093
Speaker 2: so good? You're eighty and you haven't changed in our lifetime.

892
00:42:20,573 --> 00:42:23,653
Speaker 2: How is he so healthy? And he says he says

893
00:42:23,773 --> 00:42:25,853
Speaker 2: that it's a lot to do with diet, and he

894
00:42:25,933 --> 00:42:28,533
Speaker 2: believes that we're not going to be able to change

895
00:42:28,533 --> 00:42:31,212
Speaker 2: our problems with the health system and the overrun health

896
00:42:31,253 --> 00:42:35,212
Speaker 2: system until people start taking care of themselves. As he said,

897
00:42:35,533 --> 00:42:38,453
Speaker 2: I think that diet is absolutely critical. And the reality is,

898
00:42:38,533 --> 00:42:40,253
Speaker 2: I don't think we can win this battle in terms

899
00:42:40,293 --> 00:42:42,613
Speaker 2: of our health system in this country unless there is

900
00:42:42,653 --> 00:42:46,693
Speaker 2: a massive dietary change. So that God asked asking the

901
00:42:46,773 --> 00:42:50,333
Speaker 2: question whose responsibility is your health? Is it up to

902
00:42:50,373 --> 00:42:51,813
Speaker 2: the health system to save you or is it up

903
00:42:51,813 --> 00:42:53,692
Speaker 2: to the individual to stay as healthy as they can

904
00:42:53,773 --> 00:42:56,692
Speaker 2: and not be a burden on the health system?

905
00:42:57,533 --> 00:42:57,813
Speaker 16: You know?

906
00:42:57,893 --> 00:42:59,533
Speaker 2: And if that is the case, what is the best

907
00:42:59,533 --> 00:43:03,533
Speaker 2: way to stay healthy? It's basically an ask, not what

908
00:43:03,533 --> 00:43:05,293
Speaker 2: your country can do for you, ask what you can

909
00:43:05,293 --> 00:43:07,373
Speaker 2: do for your country situation.

910
00:43:08,333 --> 00:43:11,373
Speaker 3: There's some great teas coming through and this one, I

911
00:43:11,453 --> 00:43:15,933
Speaker 3: believe is a quote from was it one of the stoics.

912
00:43:16,213 --> 00:43:19,413
Speaker 3: Let food be your medicine, less medicine becomes your food.

913
00:43:19,933 --> 00:43:20,772
Speaker 2: That's a quote from Wain.

914
00:43:20,853 --> 00:43:23,053
Speaker 3: It says here, Oh, okay, Wayne, Well, I think that's

915
00:43:23,053 --> 00:43:23,732
Speaker 3: a far a guy way.

916
00:43:23,813 --> 00:43:26,653
Speaker 2: That's just straight from Wain. This test says I suffer

917
00:43:26,693 --> 00:43:28,813
Speaker 2: from siasis. A tube of the only cream that works

918
00:43:28,813 --> 00:43:30,453
Speaker 2: will last me a year. They won't give me a

919
00:43:30,493 --> 00:43:35,692
Speaker 2: repeat presentation prescription despite using it for thirty plus years.

920
00:43:35,693 --> 00:43:37,973
Speaker 2: The doctors want to charge me to see them first.

921
00:43:38,013 --> 00:43:40,373
Speaker 2: This is why the health system is a mess. Unnecessary

922
00:43:40,413 --> 00:43:43,853
Speaker 2: doctors visits, clogged the system. That's from Steve. I mean,

923
00:43:43,893 --> 00:43:46,293
Speaker 2: there's no doubt there's efficiencies that could be brought into

924
00:43:46,333 --> 00:43:49,413
Speaker 2: the house system and we're looking at those. And there

925
00:43:49,453 --> 00:43:52,173
Speaker 2: are problems with the health system, there's no doubt. But

926
00:43:52,693 --> 00:43:55,933
Speaker 2: I believe that we are going to just keep piling

927
00:43:55,973 --> 00:43:57,613
Speaker 2: more and more and more and more and more money

928
00:43:57,613 --> 00:44:01,133
Speaker 2: into a bottomless pit of health until people start taking

929
00:44:01,453 --> 00:44:04,893
Speaker 2: care of themselves. And I was saying before that the

930
00:44:04,933 --> 00:44:11,013
Speaker 2: push should be that something like you know what was

931
00:44:11,053 --> 00:44:14,453
Speaker 2: I saying before? That your health is responsible, your responsibility,

932
00:44:15,013 --> 00:44:19,213
Speaker 2: and your kid's health is your responsibility. That should be

933
00:44:19,253 --> 00:44:22,293
Speaker 2: the message coming up from the government. The health system

934
00:44:22,413 --> 00:44:23,493
Speaker 2: is in partnership with you.

935
00:44:23,933 --> 00:44:28,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, News Talk said b It is ten past two.

936
00:44:28,373 --> 00:44:30,213
Speaker 3: Let's go to the phone lines. Jane, how are you

937
00:44:30,213 --> 00:44:31,652
Speaker 3: this afternoon? Hey?

938
00:44:31,693 --> 00:44:32,053
Speaker 17: There.

939
00:44:32,213 --> 00:44:36,772
Speaker 3: How are you and what's your thought about your own

940
00:44:36,853 --> 00:44:41,453
Speaker 3: personal health and government intervention or what the government can

941
00:44:41,493 --> 00:44:43,053
Speaker 3: do to help you look after yourself. Where do you

942
00:44:43,053 --> 00:44:45,893
Speaker 3: sit on this debate, Joe, I'm very grateful.

943
00:44:46,893 --> 00:44:50,773
Speaker 18: I agree with one some peters that you have to

944
00:44:50,813 --> 00:44:54,893
Speaker 18: look after your body was healthy, eating healthy fruits and

945
00:44:55,053 --> 00:45:00,653
Speaker 18: vegetables and make your own bread. Probably, but yes, that's

946
00:45:00,773 --> 00:45:06,933
Speaker 18: very very important, so I've give them that award. I'm

947
00:45:06,973 --> 00:45:12,373
Speaker 18: also very happy and grateful to the government for helping

948
00:45:12,453 --> 00:45:18,893
Speaker 18: me want my health because I had holistic problems in

949
00:45:18,933 --> 00:45:23,093
Speaker 18: the past, and I believe the government has helped me

950
00:45:23,133 --> 00:45:29,172
Speaker 18: overcome them. Was looking after my physical, mental, emotional, and

951
00:45:29,253 --> 00:45:31,613
Speaker 18: psychological well been.

952
00:45:32,013 --> 00:45:34,013
Speaker 2: What was your problem Jane that you said before, I

953
00:45:34,013 --> 00:45:36,212
Speaker 2: didn't quite hear hear what it was you had problem

954
00:45:36,253 --> 00:45:37,693
Speaker 2: with what I had.

955
00:45:38,533 --> 00:45:44,172
Speaker 18: Been afflicted by an enemy so and I don't want

956
00:45:44,173 --> 00:45:47,933
Speaker 18: to go into it, but I was affected by it,

957
00:45:48,733 --> 00:45:57,973
Speaker 18: which caused a lot of commulsion with my family and friends,

958
00:45:58,733 --> 00:46:04,093
Speaker 18: and it led me to mental health. But I have

959
00:46:04,293 --> 00:46:10,333
Speaker 18: come right and I have been dune thosed with mood

960
00:46:10,333 --> 00:46:18,573
Speaker 18: effective disorder, and I have been studying and nearly finished

961
00:46:19,533 --> 00:46:24,053
Speaker 18: psychology degree. You've got two more papers to go, but

962
00:46:24,293 --> 00:46:29,013
Speaker 18: I have had a lot of interruptions in a thirty

963
00:46:29,053 --> 00:46:33,653
Speaker 18: year period as well as working part times.

964
00:46:33,893 --> 00:46:33,973
Speaker 14: Ye.

965
00:46:35,013 --> 00:46:37,253
Speaker 2: So what you're saying is that what you're saying is

966
00:46:37,293 --> 00:46:40,093
Speaker 2: that you agree that there is certain responsibility for your

967
00:46:40,133 --> 00:46:43,093
Speaker 2: own health as Winston Peters are saying there and diet,

968
00:46:43,213 --> 00:46:46,493
Speaker 2: but also that the that the health system was there

969
00:46:46,533 --> 00:46:48,853
Speaker 2: for you when you when you need it, needed it

970
00:46:48,893 --> 00:46:52,613
Speaker 2: when things outside of your control affected you say.

971
00:46:53,573 --> 00:46:57,652
Speaker 18: And I have taken on board to look after myself

972
00:46:58,453 --> 00:47:01,933
Speaker 18: and also to pray and thank the lawd Almighty for

973
00:47:01,973 --> 00:47:07,133
Speaker 18: his help in my life. And I have been very

974
00:47:07,213 --> 00:47:14,093
Speaker 18: strong throughout or that has happened from this matacos that

975
00:47:14,733 --> 00:47:17,093
Speaker 18: was put on by an animete.

976
00:47:18,533 --> 00:47:20,893
Speaker 2: But let's not going to us Okay, let's not go

977
00:47:20,933 --> 00:47:24,453
Speaker 2: into it. But that sounds interesting, Jane, And I'm glad

978
00:47:24,493 --> 00:47:26,733
Speaker 2: that you're dealing with that, but in partnership with the

979
00:47:27,453 --> 00:47:28,573
Speaker 2: New Zealand health system.

980
00:47:28,653 --> 00:47:31,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds like you were somewhat independent and healthy, Jane.

981
00:47:31,133 --> 00:47:34,212
Speaker 3: So that is good news. A couple of tigs here,

982
00:47:34,293 --> 00:47:39,013
Speaker 3: guys for example, saw there his check weight, lose weight,

983
00:47:39,213 --> 00:47:41,973
Speaker 3: check that they are wearing good shoes. Patients often don't

984
00:47:42,013 --> 00:47:46,453
Speaker 3: listen or it's not their fault. So that is somewhat

985
00:47:46,533 --> 00:47:50,172
Speaker 3: government intervention, right. If they've got bad knees, make sure

986
00:47:50,213 --> 00:47:52,693
Speaker 3: that they've got good shoes, make sure that they're not

987
00:47:52,813 --> 00:47:56,973
Speaker 3: too overweight. I mean again, and I know I was

988
00:47:57,013 --> 00:47:59,133
Speaker 3: the one saying I think the government have some levers

989
00:47:59,173 --> 00:48:01,453
Speaker 3: to pull here to push people in the right direction.

990
00:48:01,973 --> 00:48:05,373
Speaker 3: But giving them good shoes at hospital I don't think

991
00:48:05,373 --> 00:48:06,493
Speaker 3: would be part of that.

992
00:48:06,573 --> 00:48:06,732
Speaker 7: Well.

993
00:48:06,773 --> 00:48:08,013
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a hard thing to say to someone

994
00:48:08,053 --> 00:48:11,333
Speaker 2: that come through with sore knees and then you say, well,

995
00:48:11,973 --> 00:48:14,653
Speaker 2: your knees are sore because you're putting an incredible strain

996
00:48:14,733 --> 00:48:17,773
Speaker 2: on them with your with your weight. So everything will

997
00:48:17,773 --> 00:48:20,893
Speaker 2: get easier if you sort out your diet. But that's

998
00:48:20,933 --> 00:48:23,453
Speaker 2: really the message that someone needs because you know they can.

999
00:48:23,693 --> 00:48:24,933
Speaker 2: They can rebuild your knees.

1000
00:48:25,333 --> 00:48:26,013
Speaker 3: They certainly can.

1001
00:48:26,053 --> 00:48:27,893
Speaker 2: They can do a lot with your knees, but that

1002
00:48:27,973 --> 00:48:31,933
Speaker 2: isn't the root cause necessarily of your knee problem.

1003
00:48:32,053 --> 00:48:35,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

1004
00:48:35,533 --> 00:48:37,493
Speaker 3: I will take more of your calls very shortly. It

1005
00:48:37,573 --> 00:48:38,813
Speaker 3: is fourteen past two.

1006
00:48:40,013 --> 00:48:44,293
Speaker 1: Wow, your new home of afternoon Talk Matt and Taylor

1007
00:48:44,413 --> 00:48:48,172
Speaker 1: Afternoon with the Volvo XC ninety turn every journey into

1008
00:48:48,333 --> 00:48:52,013
Speaker 1: something special. Call eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk.

1009
00:48:51,853 --> 00:48:56,493
Speaker 3: Said, be afternoon, it is seventeen past two, and we're

1010
00:48:56,533 --> 00:49:00,533
Speaker 3: talking about our overloaded health system and personal responsibility when

1011
00:49:00,533 --> 00:49:02,493
Speaker 3: it comes to your own health on the back of

1012
00:49:02,493 --> 00:49:06,133
Speaker 3: Winston Peters. And it was a good, good interview and

1013
00:49:06,173 --> 00:49:08,973
Speaker 3: some good quotes from him about he looks after himself

1014
00:49:09,013 --> 00:49:10,973
Speaker 3: through diet. He has been since the eighties when he

1015
00:49:10,973 --> 00:49:13,093
Speaker 3: saw some of his colleagues and the buttons on his

1016
00:49:13,173 --> 00:49:15,493
Speaker 3: shirt start to pop out and stretch a bit too much,

1017
00:49:15,533 --> 00:49:16,293
Speaker 3: and he said, not for me.

1018
00:49:16,493 --> 00:49:19,533
Speaker 2: He's munching on fish heads. What he says, three, Yeah,

1019
00:49:19,653 --> 00:49:22,732
Speaker 2: you get on the fish heads, he says. And look

1020
00:49:22,773 --> 00:49:25,693
Speaker 2: the elephant in the room when you're talking about Winston Peters.

1021
00:49:25,693 --> 00:49:30,172
Speaker 2: And obviously he's a very sharp eight year old looking fantastic. Absolutely,

1022
00:49:30,653 --> 00:49:35,252
Speaker 2: but he has also enjoyed the odd duney blue yep,

1023
00:49:36,373 --> 00:49:38,973
Speaker 2: enjoyed the odd whiskey in the own wine in this time.

1024
00:49:39,053 --> 00:49:39,652
Speaker 2: Isn't he as well?

1025
00:49:39,813 --> 00:49:41,813
Speaker 3: Yeah? So it's quite a specimen.

1026
00:49:41,933 --> 00:49:44,013
Speaker 2: He is a specimen. He's got great genetics in his family.

1027
00:49:44,053 --> 00:49:46,252
Speaker 2: I believe his mother lived in ninety six and he's

1028
00:49:46,293 --> 00:49:48,773
Speaker 2: got nine siblings that are in their eighties right now.

1029
00:49:48,853 --> 00:49:48,933
Speaker 6: Ye.

1030
00:49:49,133 --> 00:49:49,693
Speaker 3: Impressive.

1031
00:49:52,093 --> 00:49:56,053
Speaker 2: You know, great genetics like Winston Peters has is obviously

1032
00:49:56,133 --> 00:49:59,173
Speaker 2: handy as well. But we're really asking whose responsibility is

1033
00:49:59,213 --> 00:49:59,533
Speaker 2: your health?

1034
00:49:59,613 --> 00:49:59,733
Speaker 5: Is it?

1035
00:50:00,333 --> 00:50:01,813
Speaker 2: Is it yours or is it the government's.

1036
00:50:01,893 --> 00:50:05,733
Speaker 3: Yep, some great teachs coming through, Hi guys on the

1037
00:50:05,733 --> 00:50:08,773
Speaker 3: subject of health. I got told by my doctor I

1038
00:50:08,853 --> 00:50:12,613
Speaker 3: was on the top end of being morbidly obese. So

1039
00:50:12,653 --> 00:50:15,453
Speaker 3: I don't eat takeaways. I have yogurt for breakfast and

1040
00:50:15,533 --> 00:50:18,213
Speaker 3: only two coffees a day that is all from Brian.

1041
00:50:18,493 --> 00:50:21,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the coffees, I don't know that coffees were

1042
00:50:22,853 --> 00:50:24,493
Speaker 2: I mean, if I guess if you're having like a

1043
00:50:24,573 --> 00:50:27,053
Speaker 2: humil outing flat white, which is basically like a baby's

1044
00:50:27,093 --> 00:50:30,293
Speaker 2: milk drink, then that's a little frothythy. That's sort of

1045
00:50:30,533 --> 00:50:33,333
Speaker 2: why we call them flat whites, their lates. That maybe

1046
00:50:33,333 --> 00:50:34,053
Speaker 2: that's maybe the.

1047
00:50:34,613 --> 00:50:36,973
Speaker 3: It's a few calories, it's milk for you.

1048
00:50:37,053 --> 00:50:39,853
Speaker 2: Milk's good for you. That's protein. Yeah, yeah, milk's good

1049
00:50:39,853 --> 00:50:42,133
Speaker 2: for you. Country going I think I think coffees are good.

1050
00:50:42,213 --> 00:50:45,373
Speaker 2: But this is one of those things, you know. I

1051
00:50:45,413 --> 00:50:47,053
Speaker 2: just saw an article today saying eggs are bad for

1052
00:50:47,093 --> 00:50:48,573
Speaker 2: you now, yeah again, and now.

1053
00:50:48,493 --> 00:50:49,493
Speaker 3: They're having to go at protein.

1054
00:50:49,533 --> 00:50:52,212
Speaker 2: There was some article I will never believe, no matter

1055
00:50:52,213 --> 00:50:54,813
Speaker 2: what anyone says that eggs are bad for you, eggs, milk,

1056
00:50:55,293 --> 00:50:55,933
Speaker 2: all that stuff.

1057
00:50:56,333 --> 00:50:56,652
Speaker 3: Get it.

1058
00:50:57,293 --> 00:51:01,253
Speaker 2: Whole foods, well, milk's yeah, whole foods. All right, Yeah, Tony,

1059
00:51:01,453 --> 00:51:03,813
Speaker 2: your your thoughts on on on the health of the nation.

1060
00:51:05,333 --> 00:51:10,253
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, alright, guys. I think some of the responsibility

1061
00:51:10,333 --> 00:51:12,933
Speaker 9: needs to be put onto some of the producers that

1062
00:51:13,053 --> 00:51:17,573
Speaker 9: make stuff that we consume. You take your Red Bulls

1063
00:51:17,613 --> 00:51:19,493
Speaker 9: and your V's and stuff like that. We all know

1064
00:51:19,733 --> 00:51:22,893
Speaker 9: the amount of sugar and everything else. I don't know

1065
00:51:22,933 --> 00:51:27,292
Speaker 9: what else is in them, but that in the long

1066
00:51:27,373 --> 00:51:29,533
Speaker 9: term is going to create a hell of a lot

1067
00:51:29,533 --> 00:51:35,413
Speaker 9: of issues for the health system. And maybe the government

1068
00:51:35,493 --> 00:51:40,893
Speaker 9: needs to somehow tax these companies that crack this stuff,

1069
00:51:41,413 --> 00:51:45,373
Speaker 9: and these companies must know what they're creating to put

1070
00:51:45,413 --> 00:51:49,573
Speaker 9: a tax on it so that down the track that

1071
00:51:49,813 --> 00:51:53,733
Speaker 9: money is put aside for the health system, because the

1072
00:51:53,733 --> 00:51:58,413
Speaker 9: health systems the last last step really for people. So basically,

1073
00:51:58,453 --> 00:52:01,172
Speaker 9: you've got your producers that make the stuff. You've got

1074
00:52:01,213 --> 00:52:05,213
Speaker 9: us the consumer that eats it, drinks at whatever. Some

1075
00:52:05,293 --> 00:52:07,093
Speaker 9: of us know what we're doing. Some of us don't

1076
00:52:07,133 --> 00:52:09,893
Speaker 9: realize what's happening, and so of us and then we

1077
00:52:10,813 --> 00:52:13,893
Speaker 9: end up going to the health system to try and

1078
00:52:13,933 --> 00:52:15,173
Speaker 9: fix our issues.

1079
00:52:15,213 --> 00:52:17,613
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, I'll tell you what one thing's

1080
00:52:17,653 --> 00:52:20,893
Speaker 2: for sure. If Red Bull have dropped Liam Lawson and

1081
00:52:21,013 --> 00:52:22,173
Speaker 2: I'll be boycotting Red.

1082
00:52:22,053 --> 00:52:25,692
Speaker 3: Bill take it off the sheofs New Zealands. Yeah, still

1083
00:52:25,733 --> 00:52:27,093
Speaker 3: to come on that.

1084
00:52:27,093 --> 00:52:30,053
Speaker 2: That's an interesting thing, Tony. That's that there are food manufacturers.

1085
00:52:30,093 --> 00:52:34,653
Speaker 2: So you're in the business of making food and you no, no, no,

1086
00:52:34,653 --> 00:52:36,373
Speaker 2: I'm saying. I'm just going to imagine you're in the

1087
00:52:36,373 --> 00:52:38,933
Speaker 2: business of making food and the food that you produce,

1088
00:52:39,053 --> 00:52:41,773
Speaker 2: you know, is bad for people. So your day and

1089
00:52:41,933 --> 00:52:45,933
Speaker 2: day out job is producing food that's cereble for people.

1090
00:52:45,973 --> 00:52:49,493
Speaker 2: That would be I don't know, you know, there's a

1091
00:52:49,533 --> 00:52:52,773
Speaker 2: little bit of a moral quandry there. I mean, ideally,

1092
00:52:52,813 --> 00:52:54,533
Speaker 2: you want to be in the business of making food

1093
00:52:54,533 --> 00:52:57,212
Speaker 2: that makes people's lives better and nourishes people and makes

1094
00:52:57,213 --> 00:52:59,172
Speaker 2: them more happy and gives them the energy they need

1095
00:52:59,213 --> 00:53:01,533
Speaker 2: to go off and achieve. But so much of the

1096
00:53:01,533 --> 00:53:04,453
Speaker 2: food industry, as you know, you look at Musley bars,

1097
00:53:04,733 --> 00:53:06,853
Speaker 2: that people and that this is things like music bars

1098
00:53:06,893 --> 00:53:10,253
Speaker 2: really bug me because they appear to be healthy as

1099
00:53:10,253 --> 00:53:11,933
Speaker 2: far as you're concerned. You're having you're given your kid

1100
00:53:11,973 --> 00:53:15,413
Speaker 2: a musley bar because you think it's healthy, and it

1101
00:53:15,533 --> 00:53:18,373
Speaker 2: isn't that they bulk it up with sugar because sugar

1102
00:53:18,453 --> 00:53:21,253
Speaker 2: is so cheap these days, and so what is so

1103
00:53:21,373 --> 00:53:23,053
Speaker 2: a parent might be doing the exact right thing. They go,

1104
00:53:23,053 --> 00:53:25,413
Speaker 2: oh my kid lunch, here we go, here's a music bar.

1105
00:53:25,613 --> 00:53:28,613
Speaker 2: They're basically giving them a big pile of sugar, and

1106
00:53:28,693 --> 00:53:30,213
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff bugs me.

1107
00:53:30,253 --> 00:53:34,333
Speaker 9: Tony, Well, something I noticed, like I followed Motor GP

1108
00:53:34,693 --> 00:53:37,413
Speaker 9: and you watch the riders and they all hold their

1109
00:53:37,453 --> 00:53:41,693
Speaker 9: cans of whatever the sponsor is. And after one of

1110
00:53:41,733 --> 00:53:45,252
Speaker 9: the races this year, the three guys that went onto

1111
00:53:45,293 --> 00:53:47,133
Speaker 9: the podium, they're in a back room and they were

1112
00:53:47,253 --> 00:53:50,652
Speaker 9: talking to themselves, waiting, talking between themselves, waiting before they

1113
00:53:50,693 --> 00:53:54,853
Speaker 9: went onto the podium to get their rewards. And they

1114
00:53:54,893 --> 00:53:57,533
Speaker 9: had their cans there, and they were filling their cans

1115
00:53:57,573 --> 00:54:00,373
Speaker 9: up out of bottles that were clear, that had no

1116
00:54:00,453 --> 00:54:04,293
Speaker 9: markings them. So that for me is sort of telling

1117
00:54:04,333 --> 00:54:06,213
Speaker 9: me that they're not actually drinking their product.

1118
00:54:07,093 --> 00:54:09,533
Speaker 3: I mean, who was the foot and got into a

1119
00:54:09,573 --> 00:54:12,253
Speaker 3: lot of crap the Coca Cola was the big sponsor,

1120
00:54:12,773 --> 00:54:15,693
Speaker 3: and he moved the bottle of Coca Cola away. And

1121
00:54:15,733 --> 00:54:19,173
Speaker 3: I think, to paraphrase them, was I don't drink that rubbish.

1122
00:54:19,213 --> 00:54:21,013
Speaker 3: That stuff is bad for your drink water kids, not

1123
00:54:21,053 --> 00:54:21,653
Speaker 3: Coca Cola.

1124
00:54:21,853 --> 00:54:24,613
Speaker 2: But come on, there's nothing wrong with Coca cola no

1125
00:54:24,693 --> 00:54:25,573
Speaker 2: sugar though, right.

1126
00:54:25,573 --> 00:54:26,293
Speaker 3: That stuff's good.

1127
00:54:26,413 --> 00:54:29,813
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm on the Cocola no sugar now it's tasty. Yeah,

1128
00:54:29,853 --> 00:54:32,253
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean you need to you know. And

1129
00:54:32,653 --> 00:54:34,973
Speaker 2: as I was saying to someone before, I actually even

1130
00:54:35,053 --> 00:54:36,692
Speaker 2: dumber than what I said to someone before. I thought

1131
00:54:36,693 --> 00:54:39,013
Speaker 2: Fanta was better for you than than coke because it

1132
00:54:39,053 --> 00:54:39,533
Speaker 2: had oranges.

1133
00:54:39,573 --> 00:54:45,212
Speaker 3: You said it it's all color. Yeah, I think, yeah,

1134
00:54:45,733 --> 00:54:46,293
Speaker 3: thank you very.

1135
00:54:46,293 --> 00:54:48,093
Speaker 2: Much, cool Tony. And I mean, I guess one thing

1136
00:54:48,093 --> 00:54:52,613
Speaker 2: if you do. I think there are temptations everywhere, though

1137
00:54:52,653 --> 00:54:55,493
Speaker 2: to a certain extent, we have to acknowledge that you

1138
00:54:55,573 --> 00:54:59,053
Speaker 2: can't kind of save people from themselves. You can help,

1139
00:54:59,293 --> 00:55:00,653
Speaker 2: you can try, and you can lead them in the

1140
00:55:00,733 --> 00:55:04,093
Speaker 2: right direction, but people ultimately have to save save themselves.

1141
00:55:04,453 --> 00:55:07,533
Speaker 2: So that's why I'm pushing for some kind of moral

1142
00:55:07,653 --> 00:55:10,093
Speaker 2: change in the way that we see things that we

1143
00:55:10,173 --> 00:55:13,253
Speaker 2: take on board individually from a young age that our

1144
00:55:13,333 --> 00:55:15,813
Speaker 2: health is our own responsibility, and then when we have

1145
00:55:15,893 --> 00:55:19,373
Speaker 2: children that our children's health is our own response responsibility.

1146
00:55:19,533 --> 00:55:21,653
Speaker 2: And the Health Service is just a partner on the

1147
00:55:21,693 --> 00:55:22,692
Speaker 2: way if we need them.

1148
00:55:22,853 --> 00:55:24,813
Speaker 3: But just on your music BA thing and I agree.

1149
00:55:24,853 --> 00:55:27,533
Speaker 3: But these health Stars, and to me, the health Stars,

1150
00:55:27,933 --> 00:55:31,172
Speaker 3: they should be easy and straightforward. If you see four

1151
00:55:31,253 --> 00:55:34,093
Speaker 3: or five stars, you know, buy and large, that's going

1152
00:55:34,173 --> 00:55:35,893
Speaker 3: to be okay for you. But it's not the case.

1153
00:55:36,253 --> 00:55:38,652
Speaker 3: It's nonsense. So I think if there are, if they're

1154
00:55:38,653 --> 00:55:40,493
Speaker 3: going to do things like the Health Star, just do

1155
00:55:40,573 --> 00:55:42,853
Speaker 3: it freaking properly. If you're going to try and give

1156
00:55:42,893 --> 00:55:46,053
Speaker 3: people shortcuts to do the right thing, do it properly.

1157
00:55:46,373 --> 00:55:48,213
Speaker 3: And I don't know why it's so hard just to

1158
00:55:48,413 --> 00:55:51,013
Speaker 3: you know, figure it out. Okat's got sugar and salt

1159
00:55:51,013 --> 00:55:52,893
Speaker 3: in it, and clearly if you give your kid one

1160
00:55:52,933 --> 00:55:54,933
Speaker 3: of these per day, that's not going to be good

1161
00:55:54,933 --> 00:55:56,732
Speaker 3: in the long run. That is a treat. But they

1162
00:55:56,773 --> 00:55:59,053
Speaker 3: put five stars on it and it makes no sense.

1163
00:55:59,333 --> 00:56:02,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, although I would say, as I said to you before,

1164
00:56:02,853 --> 00:56:07,413
Speaker 2: potato healthy, yep, potato chips not healthy. That's you to

1165
00:56:07,573 --> 00:56:11,333
Speaker 2: take that logic to everything when you're eating potatoes, healthy

1166
00:56:12,053 --> 00:56:13,573
Speaker 2: potato chips, not.

1167
00:56:13,613 --> 00:56:18,893
Speaker 3: Healthy potato pretty tasty potato chips super tasty.

1168
00:56:20,253 --> 00:56:21,493
Speaker 2: There lies the problem.

1169
00:56:23,053 --> 00:56:30,653
Speaker 3: Eighty is the number to cool. It's twenty five past two.

1170
00:56:31,493 --> 00:56:34,893
Speaker 1: Matd Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred and

1171
00:56:34,933 --> 00:56:37,933
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on us talk, SENDB good afternoon.

1172
00:56:38,013 --> 00:56:39,893
Speaker 3: It's twenty seven past two.

1173
00:56:40,933 --> 00:56:43,333
Speaker 2: Text to Deb says, Hey, guys, I believe you have

1174
00:56:43,373 --> 00:56:45,853
Speaker 2: to do everything possible to take care of your personal health.

1175
00:56:45,853 --> 00:56:47,933
Speaker 2: But a lot of people do not even know the

1176
00:56:47,973 --> 00:56:50,373
Speaker 2: simple stuff. For example, how extremely essential is it to

1177
00:56:50,453 --> 00:56:53,813
Speaker 2: keep vitamin D levels up? Should be taking for four

1178
00:56:53,853 --> 00:56:56,652
Speaker 2: thousand units to six thousand years a day, simple but

1179
00:56:57,013 --> 00:57:00,493
Speaker 2: enormously effective. Debs. Yeah, vitamin D yeah, get it in you.

1180
00:57:00,853 --> 00:57:01,333
Speaker 19: Yeah.

1181
00:57:01,453 --> 00:57:03,772
Speaker 2: I mean I'm one of those muppets though that I've

1182
00:57:03,773 --> 00:57:08,053
Speaker 2: got this huge I'm over vitamining. I can see that

1183
00:57:08,413 --> 00:57:11,533
Speaker 2: over vitamining. So every day and I get laughed at

1184
00:57:11,933 --> 00:57:15,613
Speaker 2: by my kids. Yes, I bring the big tub down

1185
00:57:15,813 --> 00:57:19,933
Speaker 2: of all my different gummy Bear vitamins. You know, I've

1186
00:57:19,933 --> 00:57:21,533
Speaker 2: got the I've got the fish oil one.

1187
00:57:21,853 --> 00:57:24,813
Speaker 3: I hear you coming in here, you like America.

1188
00:57:25,333 --> 00:57:28,653
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got you know, I've got the creatine. You

1189
00:57:28,693 --> 00:57:31,453
Speaker 2: know I've got I've got the protein powder. I'm just

1190
00:57:31,573 --> 00:57:37,493
Speaker 2: I'm just slamming all kinds of things. I'm over vitamining, creating, vitamining, vitamining,

1191
00:57:37,533 --> 00:57:41,973
Speaker 2: over vitaminin. Do you say vitaminal, vitamin vitamin? I say

1192
00:57:42,013 --> 00:57:46,493
Speaker 2: vitamin From now on, I knew you would. Yeah, eighty

1193
00:57:46,733 --> 00:57:49,533
Speaker 2: eighty as the number to call. Jimmy, how are you?

1194
00:57:50,093 --> 00:57:50,253
Speaker 7: Hell?

1195
00:57:50,773 --> 00:57:53,893
Speaker 20: Yeah, I'm good. It's scummy boy. Listen, it's been a while.

1196
00:57:53,893 --> 00:57:57,693
Speaker 20: I'm a bit nervous, but I agree with Maddy as

1197
00:57:57,733 --> 00:58:02,133
Speaker 20: far as milk eggs, fantastic. And you've got to look

1198
00:58:02,173 --> 00:58:06,093
Speaker 20: at Winston Peters but pretty good for his age. I mean,

1199
00:58:06,293 --> 00:58:10,173
Speaker 20: he's done so well. And the one thing you forgot

1200
00:58:10,213 --> 00:58:14,333
Speaker 20: to tell you the proteins and the fish, it's it's

1201
00:58:14,373 --> 00:58:17,173
Speaker 20: in the heads, but it's actually in the eyes too.

1202
00:58:18,453 --> 00:58:23,613
Speaker 20: They I know it sounds weird, but I think it

1203
00:58:23,693 --> 00:58:28,253
Speaker 20: comes down to the individual. You know, you've got choices.

1204
00:58:28,573 --> 00:58:32,373
Speaker 20: I know some people are overweighting this and that, but mate,

1205
00:58:32,693 --> 00:58:35,133
Speaker 20: you've got look. I used to have jet black hair.

1206
00:58:35,253 --> 00:58:38,533
Speaker 20: Now I've got beautiful silver hair, seventy one years old

1207
00:58:38,653 --> 00:58:43,493
Speaker 20: coming up, and I feel fantastic, and Maddie you were saying,

1208
00:58:43,533 --> 00:58:46,173
Speaker 20: I bet your olive skin. I've got it to you, mate.

1209
00:58:46,213 --> 00:58:49,733
Speaker 20: I'm European, but most of them think I'm bloody moldy,

1210
00:58:49,853 --> 00:58:53,573
Speaker 20: which I'm proud of. But everything comes down to a

1211
00:58:53,733 --> 00:58:57,373
Speaker 20: choice Eitherie, you take it in moderation, you know what

1212
00:58:57,413 --> 00:58:58,053
Speaker 20: I'm saying.

1213
00:58:58,613 --> 00:59:02,413
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And you know that when it comes to

1214
00:59:02,453 --> 00:59:06,213
Speaker 2: the fish eyes in Fiji. Unless someone was trucking me

1215
00:59:06,293 --> 00:59:08,893
Speaker 2: when I was staying at this resort and they served me,

1216
00:59:08,973 --> 00:59:12,133
Speaker 2: they said that the fish eyes are considered an absolute

1217
00:59:12,293 --> 00:59:15,693
Speaker 2: treat in Fijian culture, and so yeah it.

1218
00:59:15,613 --> 00:59:21,253
Speaker 20: Is, Maddy. I tell you the proteins in the look.

1219
00:59:21,293 --> 00:59:23,133
Speaker 20: I eat a lot of fish, eat a lot of

1220
00:59:23,173 --> 00:59:23,733
Speaker 20: red meat.

1221
00:59:24,013 --> 00:59:24,773
Speaker 7: I ate a lot of.

1222
00:59:24,773 --> 00:59:27,773
Speaker 20: Chicken, I ate a lot of rice. And I'm grateful

1223
00:59:28,573 --> 00:59:30,933
Speaker 20: for what I've got, you know, and the way I

1224
00:59:31,093 --> 00:59:33,973
Speaker 20: look and I am. Some people call me vain, but

1225
00:59:34,133 --> 00:59:35,373
Speaker 20: I don't give a damn.

1226
00:59:37,453 --> 00:59:39,093
Speaker 2: A picture of you. Now, Jimmy, can you fire one

1227
00:59:39,093 --> 00:59:41,213
Speaker 2: through a lot?

1228
00:59:41,333 --> 00:59:44,333
Speaker 20: Mate, I'm dyslexic. It takes me my time to figure

1229
00:59:44,333 --> 00:59:46,253
Speaker 20: out how to get hold of you buggers, you.

1230
00:59:46,213 --> 00:59:49,293
Speaker 2: Know, But well you describe it. You've got beautiful, You've

1231
00:59:49,333 --> 00:59:50,253
Speaker 2: got beautiful.

1232
00:59:50,693 --> 00:59:53,693
Speaker 3: I've ever spoken, Well, you're a silver fox. You've got

1233
00:59:53,733 --> 00:59:56,253
Speaker 3: all of silver fox with beautiful olive skin.

1234
00:59:56,293 --> 01:00:00,013
Speaker 20: That's what we're getting for Scotland, right Maddy, I was

1235
01:00:00,053 --> 01:00:03,653
Speaker 20: born and scott My mum's Irish, my dad's a gladswegient.

1236
01:00:03,813 --> 01:00:06,413
Speaker 20: I came here when I was three years old. Best

1237
01:00:06,413 --> 01:00:10,093
Speaker 20: thing that ever happened. And I on you what you know?

1238
01:00:10,253 --> 01:00:13,813
Speaker 20: This country to me is giving me everything, you know,

1239
01:00:13,973 --> 01:00:18,933
Speaker 20: the friends, the people, my son, my children, my grandchildren,

1240
01:00:19,053 --> 01:00:22,293
Speaker 20: and I'm so grateful. How can I like I always

1241
01:00:22,373 --> 01:00:25,533
Speaker 20: go take care guys. You do a damn bloody good job.

1242
01:00:25,893 --> 01:00:29,533
Speaker 2: Jimmy, you're a great New Zealander and that kind of positivity. Actually,

1243
01:00:29,693 --> 01:00:31,133
Speaker 2: I think you know, diet.

1244
01:00:30,853 --> 01:00:32,613
Speaker 3: Is a really important thing in your life as well.

1245
01:00:32,613 --> 01:00:35,453
Speaker 2: But having some gratitude like Jimmy has, yeah, that is

1246
01:00:35,493 --> 01:00:37,933
Speaker 2: good for the health. Get home fronting the scamp lowers

1247
01:00:37,933 --> 01:00:40,613
Speaker 2: the quartersol levels. If you can just find gratitude in

1248
01:00:40,653 --> 01:00:43,213
Speaker 2: your life rather than walking around being angry at everyone

1249
01:00:43,253 --> 01:00:45,693
Speaker 2: and everything, look around and go it ain't it ain't

1250
01:00:45,733 --> 01:00:46,173
Speaker 2: too bad.

1251
01:00:46,413 --> 01:00:49,613
Speaker 3: It ain't too bad, nicely said right headlines. With Raylene

1252
01:00:49,653 --> 01:00:51,893
Speaker 3: coming up, then we'll take more of your calls on

1253
01:00:52,093 --> 01:00:55,493
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. It is twenty nine

1254
01:00:55,533 --> 01:00:55,893
Speaker 3: to three.

1255
01:00:58,773 --> 01:01:02,533
Speaker 14: Jew's talk said the headlines with Blue Bubble taxis it's

1256
01:01:02,613 --> 01:01:05,893
Speaker 14: no trouble with a blue bubble. The government's told business

1257
01:01:05,973 --> 01:01:10,053
Speaker 14: leaders that the Herald project to Auckland Luncheon. It's exploring

1258
01:01:10,173 --> 01:01:14,133
Speaker 14: the possibility of another hospital in South Auckland. Police have

1259
01:01:14,213 --> 01:01:17,773
Speaker 14: arrested a man after an hour's long standoff. The man

1260
01:01:17,813 --> 01:01:21,293
Speaker 14: was inside the Mudda Pata police station in Fakatane. He'd

1261
01:01:21,293 --> 01:01:24,733
Speaker 14: smashed a glass door to get in. An axe, machete

1262
01:01:24,773 --> 01:01:27,693
Speaker 14: and chainsaw were found inside the man's vehicle and over

1263
01:01:27,733 --> 01:01:32,693
Speaker 14: a fence. A parliament committee's ruled Labour MP panay Hanare

1264
01:01:32,893 --> 01:01:36,093
Speaker 14: joining a hakka during the reading of the Treaty Principal's

1265
01:01:36,173 --> 01:01:41,413
Speaker 14: Bill last year was disorderly behavior but didn't amount to contempt.

1266
01:01:42,453 --> 01:01:45,933
Speaker 14: Police reinvestigating the cold case of twenty five year old

1267
01:01:46,013 --> 01:01:50,493
Speaker 14: David Robinson's death in nineteen ninety eight. A forensically examining

1268
01:01:50,533 --> 01:01:54,253
Speaker 14: firearms believed us to kill him. His body was found

1269
01:01:54,293 --> 01:01:58,693
Speaker 14: on a remote West Coast beach. US National Security Advisor

1270
01:01:58,773 --> 01:02:02,773
Speaker 14: Mike Waltz says he's taken full responsibility for a journalist

1271
01:02:02,933 --> 01:02:06,453
Speaker 14: accidentally being added to a group chat, and a staffer

1272
01:02:06,893 --> 01:02:11,333
Speaker 14: wasn't to blame Cheesy's calls for tax tweaks to benefit

1273
01:02:11,413 --> 01:02:15,613
Speaker 14: locals with offshore investments, not just foreigners. Find out more

1274
01:02:15,653 --> 01:02:16,253
Speaker 14: at Ends.

1275
01:02:16,093 --> 01:02:17,093
Speaker 2: And Herald Premium.

1276
01:02:17,133 --> 01:02:19,053
Speaker 14: Now back to Matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

1277
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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, ray Lean, And we're talking about

1278
01:02:21,533 --> 01:02:24,493
Speaker 3: personal responsibility when it comes to your own health and diets.

1279
01:02:24,613 --> 01:02:26,773
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Is it your responsibility or is it

1280
01:02:26,773 --> 01:02:29,853
Speaker 2: the government's responsibility to keep you healthy? Because I believe

1281
01:02:29,933 --> 01:02:32,573
Speaker 2: if we don't take responsibility for our health, then we're

1282
01:02:32,613 --> 01:02:34,493
Speaker 2: just going to keep piling more and more and more

1283
01:02:34,533 --> 01:02:36,893
Speaker 2: and more into our health system, and we're going to

1284
01:02:36,933 --> 01:02:39,173
Speaker 2: get sicker and sicker and sicker and sicker. So we'll

1285
01:02:39,173 --> 01:02:43,093
Speaker 2: get poorer and sicker. Although supplements you're taking, Matt, you

1286
01:02:43,133 --> 01:02:47,453
Speaker 2: are causing yourself problems to many synthetics, nasty supplements, see

1287
01:02:47,453 --> 01:02:49,733
Speaker 2: a professional. Yeah, I'm getting hammered in the text because I.

1288
01:02:50,413 --> 01:02:54,413
Speaker 3: Punish a lot of vitamins in the mornings. I've got

1289
01:02:54,453 --> 01:02:56,173
Speaker 3: your Vitamin D, You've got your creatine.

1290
01:02:56,333 --> 01:02:59,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got fish oil, I've got your Men's multi Yeah,

1291
01:03:01,293 --> 01:03:07,773
Speaker 2: fish capsules magnesium. Ye, and then I'm pounding protein powder. Yeah.

1292
01:03:07,813 --> 01:03:09,893
Speaker 2: I know it's yeah, I know it's wrong, but I

1293
01:03:09,893 --> 01:03:11,453
Speaker 2: can't stop. I'm addicted to vitamins.

1294
01:03:11,733 --> 01:03:14,733
Speaker 3: You've seen there, Brian Johnson. Guy, he's on a mission

1295
01:03:14,773 --> 01:03:17,453
Speaker 3: to live as long as he can. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: And it's an incredible story. He's a unique individual. But

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Speaker 3: that's what I think of when I think, are you

1298
01:03:22,373 --> 01:03:25,693
Speaker 3: just smashing back all of these pills in your protein shakes.

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01:03:25,773 --> 01:03:27,173
Speaker 3: I'm gonna live forever.

1300
01:03:26,933 --> 01:03:30,013
Speaker 2: Looking for the looking for the shortcut, the elixir of life. Yeah,

1301
01:03:30,053 --> 01:03:32,213
Speaker 2: it's the holy grail. That that bucket on top of

1302
01:03:32,213 --> 01:03:34,293
Speaker 2: my fridge with all my vitamins and it it's actually

1303
01:03:34,293 --> 01:03:36,733
Speaker 2: the holy grail that everyone's been looking for. Hey, you

1304
01:03:36,773 --> 01:03:39,493
Speaker 2: had a caller called Donna on before about two pm.

1305
01:03:39,533 --> 01:03:42,373
Speaker 2: She said she didn't want to be on statins and

1306
01:03:42,493 --> 01:03:44,213
Speaker 2: was sticking to a diet that was in a book.

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01:03:44,253 --> 01:03:45,973
Speaker 2: Are you able to provide the name of the book?

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01:03:46,093 --> 01:03:48,973
Speaker 2: She mentioned a gain please, that's from Bruce. What was

1309
01:03:49,013 --> 01:03:52,733
Speaker 2: it called? Was it called the I Believe the Cholesterol Myth?

1310
01:03:52,813 --> 01:03:54,293
Speaker 3: Yeah? The Great Cholesterol Myth.

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01:03:54,333 --> 01:03:56,213
Speaker 2: If someone can remember ninet two nine two, we can

1312
01:03:56,293 --> 01:03:58,293
Speaker 2: go back and look at the record of it, but

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01:03:58,533 --> 01:03:59,453
Speaker 2: I think it was called that.

1314
01:03:59,573 --> 01:04:01,413
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Donna, if you're still listening, if you can

1315
01:04:01,413 --> 01:04:04,133
Speaker 3: just send us a text nine two nine two, but oh,

1316
01:04:04,173 --> 01:04:05,813
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is and number to

1317
01:04:05,853 --> 01:04:07,133
Speaker 3: call and love to hear from you.

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01:04:08,373 --> 01:04:09,173
Speaker 2: So welcome to the show.

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01:04:10,533 --> 01:04:12,453
Speaker 21: Hello, how are you very very good?

1320
01:04:12,533 --> 01:04:13,693
Speaker 2: Better since you have called too?

1321
01:04:15,213 --> 01:04:17,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, these are charmer is an issue?

1322
01:04:18,053 --> 01:04:24,413
Speaker 2: Yeah, now that became awkward really quickly. But sue your thoughts.

1323
01:04:22,933 --> 01:04:27,893
Speaker 22: About people about people's house, it is their responsibility and

1324
01:04:27,973 --> 01:04:31,533
Speaker 22: it's not the government's responsibility. I don't believe to tax

1325
01:04:31,653 --> 01:04:36,653
Speaker 22: sugar and everything. And people need to stop buying the

1326
01:04:36,693 --> 01:04:39,293
Speaker 22: red ball or all the things that make them obese

1327
01:04:39,413 --> 01:04:42,613
Speaker 22: or morbidly obese or whatever and take some ownership of

1328
01:04:42,653 --> 01:04:46,973
Speaker 22: it and eat healthily. What's wrong with porridge for breakfast

1329
01:04:47,133 --> 01:04:49,693
Speaker 22: and you know things like that.

1330
01:04:49,933 --> 01:04:50,773
Speaker 23: They don't have to.

1331
01:04:50,693 --> 01:04:54,253
Speaker 22: Go and eat all the fatty process stuff. But they

1332
01:04:54,293 --> 01:04:59,373
Speaker 22: say they are time poor. But I'm over sixty five,

1333
01:04:59,453 --> 01:05:02,333
Speaker 22: so I'm a little bit of the old fashioned way

1334
01:05:02,373 --> 01:05:04,413
Speaker 22: of doing things now.

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01:05:04,453 --> 01:05:06,493
Speaker 2: So when you say porridge for breakfast, because when I

1336
01:05:06,493 --> 01:05:09,253
Speaker 2: was a kid growing up in Dunedin, my dad would

1337
01:05:09,253 --> 01:05:11,373
Speaker 2: make me porridge for breakfast every morning. But it was

1338
01:05:11,533 --> 01:05:15,933
Speaker 2: absolutely lad in brown sugar and it was so delicious.

1339
01:05:15,413 --> 01:05:19,493
Speaker 22: Well it is, yes, I mean you can put whatever

1340
01:05:19,533 --> 01:05:21,813
Speaker 22: you like on it, but these days you talk about

1341
01:05:21,893 --> 01:05:25,813
Speaker 22: yogurt and fruits and all sorts of stuff. But people

1342
01:05:25,853 --> 01:05:27,893
Speaker 22: have to get back to some basics and make some

1343
01:05:28,093 --> 01:05:32,053
Speaker 22: choices instead of saying, oh, the coach's cheap or whatever.

1344
01:05:32,253 --> 01:05:35,333
Speaker 22: Actually water is cheap out of the tap. All of

1345
01:05:35,373 --> 01:05:38,773
Speaker 22: these things, and you know, and they've got to know

1346
01:05:38,813 --> 01:05:40,933
Speaker 22: how to cook as well. And I think if you're

1347
01:05:40,933 --> 01:05:43,133
Speaker 22: going to put money into something, you teach them that

1348
01:05:43,253 --> 01:05:47,333
Speaker 22: at school. Teach them all of that in the education system.

1349
01:05:47,573 --> 01:05:47,893
Speaker 3: Very good.

1350
01:05:47,933 --> 01:05:49,733
Speaker 2: I mean that should be that. You know, often think

1351
01:05:49,733 --> 01:05:53,653
Speaker 2: about that in terms of the primary and intermediate and.

1352
01:05:53,613 --> 01:05:54,413
Speaker 3: They do a bit of it.

1353
01:05:55,133 --> 01:05:57,893
Speaker 2: But really the most two of the most important things

1354
01:05:58,053 --> 01:05:59,733
Speaker 2: that you can be taught is how to deal with

1355
01:05:59,813 --> 01:06:01,453
Speaker 2: money and how to deal with your health.

1356
01:06:01,573 --> 01:06:04,173
Speaker 3: Definitely that takes a far in life. But just on

1357
01:06:04,253 --> 01:06:06,333
Speaker 3: to your point about the porridge, I mean that's the

1358
01:06:06,373 --> 01:06:08,773
Speaker 3: tricky part, right. It's same with wheatbis at least you

1359
01:06:08,813 --> 01:06:10,973
Speaker 3: had a thick crust of white sugar on top of

1360
01:06:10,973 --> 01:06:13,213
Speaker 3: your wheat pecks. You couldn't stomach it as a kid.

1361
01:06:13,253 --> 01:06:14,453
Speaker 3: So is that healthy? I don't know.

1362
01:06:14,573 --> 01:06:16,773
Speaker 2: I think the most delicious thing I've ever drunk drunk

1363
01:06:16,773 --> 01:06:20,013
Speaker 2: in my life was the milk with the brown sugar

1364
01:06:20,053 --> 01:06:23,093
Speaker 2: at the end of the porridge. It was just so good,

1365
01:06:23,293 --> 01:06:26,093
Speaker 2: steaming hot porridge and then you get the brown sugar milk.

1366
01:06:26,253 --> 01:06:28,693
Speaker 2: But we were pretty healthy. Yeah, yeah, I mean I

1367
01:06:28,773 --> 01:06:31,653
Speaker 2: was so skinny that I used to wear two jewsey

1368
01:06:31,693 --> 01:06:34,413
Speaker 2: used to school, so you know, you know, stopped me

1369
01:06:34,453 --> 01:06:35,373
Speaker 2: getting into so many fights.

1370
01:06:35,373 --> 01:06:36,053
Speaker 3: So it looked tougher.

1371
01:06:36,533 --> 01:06:39,973
Speaker 2: So I certainly wasn't certainly wasn't fattening me up when

1372
01:06:40,013 --> 01:06:42,013
Speaker 2: I was a kid. And also what SUSI is that's

1373
01:06:42,053 --> 01:06:46,133
Speaker 2: also from my dad's school of food. When you ask

1374
01:06:46,173 --> 01:06:48,493
Speaker 2: for a drink, he would always say, there's plenty of

1375
01:06:48,493 --> 01:06:52,413
Speaker 2: water in the tap. It's always the answer, Yeah I drink, Dad,

1376
01:06:52,533 --> 01:06:54,293
Speaker 2: plenty of water. And the other thing that he used

1377
01:06:54,333 --> 01:06:57,573
Speaker 2: to always say, good advice. You say, Cole, can I

1378
01:06:57,573 --> 01:06:59,933
Speaker 2: turn on the heater? He goes, no, put on a jersey.

1379
01:07:00,173 --> 01:07:00,693
Speaker 3: Good advice.

1380
01:07:01,213 --> 01:07:05,253
Speaker 2: Three, no nonsense, porridge, plenty of water in the tap,

1381
01:07:05,733 --> 01:07:06,613
Speaker 2: and put on a jersey.

1382
01:07:06,653 --> 01:07:07,653
Speaker 3: He's a good man, you're dad.

1383
01:07:07,733 --> 01:07:08,533
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1384
01:07:08,533 --> 01:07:11,533
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty and eighty is the number to

1385
01:07:11,613 --> 01:07:14,453
Speaker 3: call in Donnahe's t expect just quickly before we go

1386
01:07:14,493 --> 01:07:18,413
Speaker 3: to Kevin. Hey, guys, it was called the Great Cholesterol Myth.

1387
01:07:19,133 --> 01:07:20,733
Speaker 3: Sorry I can't remember the name of the author, but

1388
01:07:20,733 --> 01:07:22,293
Speaker 3: we'll have a look when I get home.

1389
01:07:22,893 --> 01:07:26,493
Speaker 2: The Great calyisterol Myth. There you go, Kevin, Welcome to

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01:07:26,533 --> 01:07:28,533
Speaker 2: your Welcome to the show. You want to talk about

1391
01:07:28,533 --> 01:07:29,293
Speaker 2: the UK approach.

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01:07:31,173 --> 01:07:31,573
Speaker 8: It wasn't.

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01:07:31,613 --> 01:07:35,653
Speaker 24: It's just a report I read just recently about the

1394
01:07:36,533 --> 01:07:37,973
Speaker 24: It was just a report that came up as the

1395
01:07:37,973 --> 01:07:39,933
Speaker 24: press in the UK, and it was about the fact

1396
01:07:39,973 --> 01:07:43,613
Speaker 24: that if you once you are more videobese, or if

1397
01:07:43,653 --> 01:07:46,453
Speaker 24: you're carrying too much fat, that's where the toxins from

1398
01:07:46,493 --> 01:07:49,573
Speaker 24: all as the processed food gets broken down, that's all

1399
01:07:49,613 --> 01:07:53,053
Speaker 24: the nit rates and the sugar and the salts and everything.

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01:07:53,093 --> 01:07:55,373
Speaker 24: It ends up as toxins in stored in the fact,

1401
01:07:55,413 --> 01:07:57,973
Speaker 24: because fat is brilliant. It's his storage, it's your body

1402
01:07:58,013 --> 01:07:58,693
Speaker 24: storage system.

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01:07:58,893 --> 01:07:59,133
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:07:59,253 --> 01:08:01,973
Speaker 24: And when you then that then leads on to further

1405
01:08:02,453 --> 01:08:05,693
Speaker 24: problems such as other cancers and things like that. So

1406
01:08:06,853 --> 01:08:09,693
Speaker 24: you you are more likely to so for later from

1407
01:08:09,893 --> 01:08:14,253
Speaker 24: things as well as bad heart you know, issues with

1408
01:08:14,293 --> 01:08:14,613
Speaker 24: your heart.

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01:08:14,693 --> 01:08:17,293
Speaker 2: That's kind of a terrifying concept, doesn't it That you're

1410
01:08:17,773 --> 01:08:20,973
Speaker 2: you know, not only the problems that you get from obesity,

1411
01:08:21,053 --> 01:08:25,692
Speaker 2: but also what is in your fat stores as toxic

1412
01:08:25,732 --> 01:08:28,093
Speaker 2: to your body. That's quite a terrifying way to look

1413
01:08:28,133 --> 01:08:29,013
Speaker 2: at it.

1414
01:08:29,532 --> 01:08:31,053
Speaker 24: And it's once you realize and you think, oh, this

1415
01:08:31,173 --> 01:08:33,372
Speaker 24: is you know what's going to get me? And you

1416
01:08:33,412 --> 01:08:36,333
Speaker 24: know everyone's trying to be as healthy as possible, or

1417
01:08:36,372 --> 01:08:38,492
Speaker 24: you're think they're trying to be as self as possible.

1418
01:08:38,612 --> 01:08:40,852
Speaker 24: But the other thing I disagree with is and I

1419
01:08:40,933 --> 01:08:45,532
Speaker 24: come from a background of if something is wrong, you

1420
01:08:45,612 --> 01:08:48,812
Speaker 24: get told it's wrong. And this thing about pandy pandering,

1421
01:08:48,933 --> 01:08:51,173
Speaker 24: and it was something that's ingrained in me a long

1422
01:08:51,213 --> 01:08:52,932
Speaker 24: time ago. For a friend of mine who's a doctor,

1423
01:08:53,412 --> 01:08:55,492
Speaker 24: when you qualified as a doctor at university together, he

1424
01:08:55,572 --> 01:08:59,052
Speaker 24: sent out three He gave always mates their own prescription,

1425
01:08:59,253 --> 01:09:01,333
Speaker 24: which was a bit naughty because he just wrote it out.

1426
01:09:01,333 --> 01:09:03,452
Speaker 24: It's quite a fun thing to do, even though it's

1427
01:09:03,452 --> 01:09:06,892
Speaker 24: a control of documents. He wrote to the guy who's Jason,

1428
01:09:06,893 --> 01:09:09,372
Speaker 24: who is a prop, but he would have been a

1429
01:09:09,372 --> 01:09:11,492
Speaker 24: lot better prop because he was carrying a bit too

1430
01:09:11,572 --> 01:09:13,973
Speaker 24: much weight and he was he was actually be able

1431
01:09:14,013 --> 01:09:15,973
Speaker 24: to get up a bit faster and up on the

1432
01:09:16,013 --> 01:09:18,772
Speaker 24: ball if he The three things he wrote to him

1433
01:09:18,933 --> 01:09:23,133
Speaker 24: was stop smoking, stopped drinking so much, and stop being

1434
01:09:23,213 --> 01:09:28,052
Speaker 24: so much KFC. And he wrote that, and he wrote,

1435
01:09:28,293 --> 01:09:30,372
Speaker 24: he wrote and mocked all of us things that he

1436
01:09:30,412 --> 01:09:32,613
Speaker 24: thought were going wrong in our life. It was quite funny.

1437
01:09:32,372 --> 01:09:34,932
Speaker 2: And he did on a prescription pad.

1438
01:09:36,053 --> 01:09:38,293
Speaker 24: He did on a prescription we had. And then when

1439
01:09:38,293 --> 01:09:41,052
Speaker 24: he got called in, he got called in, where all.

1440
01:09:40,933 --> 01:09:41,972
Speaker 8: These prescriptions gone?

1441
01:09:42,173 --> 01:09:43,812
Speaker 24: And he said, oh, he did it officially, so he

1442
01:09:43,893 --> 01:09:45,973
Speaker 24: used to scribe off so he couldn't add anything like

1443
01:09:46,452 --> 01:09:47,333
Speaker 24: any fun.

1444
01:09:47,213 --> 01:09:49,492
Speaker 8: Drugs to it and take it in and use it.

1445
01:09:49,933 --> 01:09:52,452
Speaker 24: But he did say I did. Someone did have a

1446
01:09:52,492 --> 01:09:54,812
Speaker 24: word with me because it was all written out of handwrite,

1447
01:09:54,893 --> 01:09:57,933
Speaker 24: handwritten in those days, and it was just but he

1448
01:09:58,293 --> 01:10:00,812
Speaker 24: was quite straightforward saying, if you if you've got this

1449
01:10:01,253 --> 01:10:03,092
Speaker 24: was in a culture at the moment you can't tell people,

1450
01:10:03,213 --> 01:10:06,253
Speaker 24: oh you you know, I'm not saying fact shaming, but

1451
01:10:06,572 --> 01:10:09,492
Speaker 24: some people do need to be told you need to

1452
01:10:09,492 --> 01:10:11,492
Speaker 24: lose this weight or it's at the moment we've got

1453
01:10:11,492 --> 01:10:13,812
Speaker 24: no real way of measuring. In the health system, they

1454
01:10:13,853 --> 01:10:19,692
Speaker 24: can get accurate measures what contributes or overweight, How overweight.

1455
01:10:19,333 --> 01:10:20,612
Speaker 8: Costs, how much it costs.

1456
01:10:20,652 --> 01:10:23,972
Speaker 24: But there are some estimates from fifteen up to sixty

1457
01:10:24,013 --> 01:10:27,133
Speaker 24: percent of all your issues with the health system, which

1458
01:10:27,173 --> 01:10:30,972
Speaker 24: is way overburdened, it could be down to bad diet

1459
01:10:31,173 --> 01:10:33,772
Speaker 24: and your mental health improves. Have you got a good diet,

1460
01:10:33,893 --> 01:10:36,852
Speaker 24: your your body, your sex life improves, You've got a

1461
01:10:36,853 --> 01:10:40,213
Speaker 24: decent diet. Yeah, that's the ultimate driving for is it

1462
01:10:40,293 --> 01:10:40,852
Speaker 24: driving thing?

1463
01:10:41,293 --> 01:10:46,813
Speaker 2: Yeah? And ultimately and probably for the person that you're

1464
01:10:47,372 --> 01:10:49,933
Speaker 2: you're sharing your sex life worth would probably enjoyed a

1465
01:10:49,973 --> 01:10:50,612
Speaker 2: bit more as well.

1466
01:10:52,133 --> 01:10:55,173
Speaker 24: And by the way, it was Ronaldo who moved the bottle,

1467
01:10:56,893 --> 01:10:59,812
Speaker 24: and you know he was pretty good and he's not.

1468
01:11:00,093 --> 01:11:02,412
Speaker 24: His career is coming to an end, but he's still,

1469
01:11:02,572 --> 01:11:05,932
Speaker 24: you know, making millions from kicking a leather ball or a.

1470
01:11:05,812 --> 01:11:06,692
Speaker 8: Plastic ball around.

1471
01:11:06,772 --> 01:11:09,853
Speaker 24: Yes, yeah, you know, you know he doesn't.

1472
01:11:09,853 --> 01:11:12,053
Speaker 2: I think there's a deeper meaning given and what your

1473
01:11:12,093 --> 01:11:15,372
Speaker 2: friend did with that prescription, because you could surprise you know,

1474
01:11:15,372 --> 01:11:18,452
Speaker 2: I'm seeing a deeper meaning there given. So you could subscribe,

1475
01:11:18,612 --> 01:11:21,093
Speaker 2: you know, drugs to save someone you know, or some

1476
01:11:21,213 --> 01:11:25,133
Speaker 2: kind of medicine. But what he's actually prescribing is improvements

1477
01:11:25,173 --> 01:11:28,572
Speaker 2: in your life, which which is kind of the the

1478
01:11:28,812 --> 01:11:31,572
Speaker 2: ultimate prescription. Really, yeah, you know. And and my question

1479
01:11:31,652 --> 01:11:33,772
Speaker 2: is for your prop, did he stop drinking so much?

1480
01:11:33,853 --> 01:11:36,052
Speaker 2: Did he did he cut back on the jog food?

1481
01:11:37,532 --> 01:11:39,652
Speaker 24: Well, we all sort of separate after I saw him

1482
01:11:39,652 --> 01:11:42,093
Speaker 24: a couple of times, and he had improved because he

1483
01:11:42,173 --> 01:11:45,933
Speaker 24: got a decent job where he he needed to be

1484
01:11:46,812 --> 01:11:48,812
Speaker 24: cutting around the country quite a bit, and he was.

1485
01:11:49,732 --> 01:11:54,053
Speaker 24: He was actually and as a salesman he just took

1486
01:11:54,452 --> 01:11:56,293
Speaker 24: he lost the heap away and he actually did look

1487
01:11:56,492 --> 01:12:00,013
Speaker 24: like a proper rugged prop And he you know, used

1488
01:12:00,013 --> 01:12:02,892
Speaker 24: to carry himself quite well in his brilliant salesman because

1489
01:12:02,893 --> 01:12:04,213
Speaker 24: people just look up to him and go, yeah, I

1490
01:12:04,213 --> 01:12:06,532
Speaker 24: can deal with this guy. He's you know, handsome bloke

1491
01:12:06,612 --> 01:12:10,452
Speaker 24: coming in you know. So it was, but that was

1492
01:12:10,452 --> 01:12:13,133
Speaker 24: in the days when people everyone gets offended. If you

1493
01:12:13,133 --> 01:12:15,412
Speaker 24: say I'll be the best, you know, they're going okay.

1494
01:12:15,412 --> 01:12:16,133
Speaker 25: If it's there.

1495
01:12:16,013 --> 01:12:17,532
Speaker 24: Seems to be a lot, there seems to be a

1496
01:12:17,532 --> 01:12:22,173
Speaker 24: few personalities. You said, oh, this is just me. Accept

1497
01:12:22,213 --> 01:12:26,013
Speaker 24: me as I am. That's fine, but we are the

1498
01:12:26,093 --> 01:12:28,412
Speaker 24: society does still judge you. And if someone's going to

1499
01:12:28,452 --> 01:12:32,173
Speaker 24: paying for your your bad choices in the future, we're

1500
01:12:32,213 --> 01:12:34,452
Speaker 24: going to say well, actually you're not really helping yourself

1501
01:12:34,452 --> 01:12:35,692
Speaker 24: towards being a better you.

1502
01:12:36,053 --> 01:12:36,812
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.

1503
01:12:36,933 --> 01:12:38,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, goes back to what I

1504
01:12:38,692 --> 01:12:41,492
Speaker 2: was saying before. You know, not not what your country

1505
01:12:41,492 --> 01:12:42,933
Speaker 2: can do for you, ask what you can do for

1506
01:12:42,973 --> 01:12:45,133
Speaker 2: you for your country. Great like that could be the

1507
01:12:45,173 --> 01:12:48,892
Speaker 2: motivation to doing it. Someone his is Maddy. Nothing wrong

1508
01:12:48,933 --> 01:12:51,572
Speaker 2: with the layer of brown sugar on your porridge. It's

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Speaker 2: when you add the cream bun for mourning, tea pie

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Speaker 2: for lunch, and bottle of coke with the pegget of

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01:12:56,013 --> 01:12:59,612
Speaker 2: eminehmits for afternoon, or watch down with a succulent Chinese

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Speaker 2: meal for dinner. Do things actually fall off the rail? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, good point.

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01:13:05,492 --> 01:13:07,253
Speaker 2: A bit of a sprinkle of brown sugar on your

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01:13:07,293 --> 01:13:09,293
Speaker 2: on your porridge in the morning's thing?

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01:13:09,372 --> 01:13:11,972
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Z number

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Speaker 3: to call it is fourteen to three.

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Speaker 1: A fresh take on Talkback Matt and Tyler Afternoon with

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01:13:19,372 --> 01:13:23,132
Speaker 1: the Volvo XC nineteen turn every journey into something special.

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01:13:23,293 --> 01:13:26,492
Speaker 1: Have your say on eight hundred eighty eight news Talk

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Speaker 1: there'd be afternoon.

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Speaker 3: It is eleven to three. Chris, Good afternoon.

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Speaker 19: Good guys.

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Speaker 26: I think it's as you say this personal responsibility for

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01:13:36,853 --> 01:13:39,093
Speaker 26: your health. But also I think the government should be

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01:13:39,133 --> 01:13:41,932
Speaker 26: able to step in and turn around to tell anyone

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01:13:41,933 --> 01:13:44,932
Speaker 26: that manufactures food or anything that they bought a sugar

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01:13:44,973 --> 01:13:48,612
Speaker 26: content and if they cut it in half over within

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01:13:48,772 --> 01:13:51,933
Speaker 26: two years, our palettes would just then it doesn't have

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01:13:51,973 --> 01:13:53,932
Speaker 26: to be a sugar tax. So that's just another ruddy

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01:13:54,572 --> 01:13:58,213
Speaker 26: charge in our pockets. But if everything was slowly cut down,

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01:13:58,253 --> 01:14:01,173
Speaker 26: our our palettes that adjust back to what it was.

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01:14:01,933 --> 01:14:04,532
Speaker 26: But now they've bought sugar and everything. Even your smartest

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01:14:04,572 --> 01:14:09,333
Speaker 26: sauces stack with sugar at tracks so attracts you more

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01:14:09,412 --> 01:14:11,812
Speaker 26: to it, and all the kid's soft drinks and all

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01:14:11,812 --> 01:14:13,572
Speaker 26: the rest of it. The amount of sugar they stick

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01:14:13,612 --> 01:14:16,452
Speaker 26: in is unbelievable, and that's just gets you hooked.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know exactly what you're saying there, Chris, because

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01:14:19,732 --> 01:14:23,812
Speaker 2: I used to have two teaspoons of sugar in my

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01:14:23,812 --> 01:14:27,293
Speaker 2: coffee and in my tea, yep, And that just seemed normal.

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01:14:27,293 --> 01:14:28,972
Speaker 2: And then I got rid of it. And now if

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01:14:29,013 --> 01:14:31,213
Speaker 2: I get a tea or a coffee with sugar, and

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01:14:31,333 --> 01:14:33,532
Speaker 2: it tastes crazy sweet, and I've got a lot of

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01:14:33,692 --> 01:14:35,013
Speaker 2: most of the sugar out of my life. I even

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01:14:35,093 --> 01:14:37,133
Speaker 2: eat an apple now, so I'll bite into an apple

1546
01:14:37,173 --> 01:14:40,452
Speaker 2: and it tastes so sweet, it's like a lolly. So

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01:14:40,492 --> 01:14:42,532
Speaker 2: you can definitely you had seen right, Chris, You can

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01:14:42,572 --> 01:14:44,092
Speaker 2: definitely recalibrate your taste.

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01:14:45,652 --> 01:14:45,852
Speaker 7: Yeah.

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01:14:46,173 --> 01:14:48,093
Speaker 26: The government should be able to force it because they

1551
01:14:48,093 --> 01:14:50,532
Speaker 26: are the ones that pick up the hospital bill at

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01:14:50,572 --> 01:14:52,492
Speaker 26: the end, and they can stop some of these people

1553
01:14:52,532 --> 01:14:55,093
Speaker 26: shoving all this crap down their throats, airs and the

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01:14:55,133 --> 01:14:56,253
Speaker 26: sugar content.

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01:14:55,933 --> 01:14:57,053
Speaker 9: That attracts it.

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01:14:57,253 --> 01:15:00,093
Speaker 26: They can put sugar in KFC and stuff. It's all got,

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01:15:00,253 --> 01:15:02,612
Speaker 26: it's all in a tract and just to sort of

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01:15:02,732 --> 01:15:06,852
Speaker 26: hock you into it and drag you, drag you into

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01:15:06,893 --> 01:15:07,333
Speaker 26: the system.

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01:15:07,772 --> 01:15:10,972
Speaker 3: Yeah, would you give lee way too? So we're talking

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01:15:11,013 --> 01:15:13,812
Speaker 3: about big food manufacturers here, Chris, obviously, would you give

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01:15:13,933 --> 01:15:17,133
Speaker 3: lee way too? You know, market still operators that sort

1563
01:15:17,173 --> 01:15:18,253
Speaker 3: of thing. Leave them out of it.

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01:15:19,692 --> 01:15:22,692
Speaker 26: No, just legislator right across the board that takes out

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01:15:22,933 --> 01:15:26,213
Speaker 26: everyone that produces anything that they throw sugar in. If

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01:15:26,253 --> 01:15:29,412
Speaker 26: you're not harped at within two years, will prosecute you.

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01:15:29,572 --> 01:15:32,173
Speaker 26: And if they're the big players, nail them. They're the

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01:15:32,173 --> 01:15:34,852
Speaker 26: smaller players, nail them and still nail them real hard

1569
01:15:34,853 --> 01:15:36,892
Speaker 26: because all they're doing is stuff in up people's lives.

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01:15:37,173 --> 01:15:39,693
Speaker 2: It is interesting that the message on sugar is slightly

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01:15:40,293 --> 01:15:42,412
Speaker 2: you know, getting through, although, as this Texas says, you

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01:15:42,452 --> 01:15:44,732
Speaker 2: know your listeners are relatively well educated. The problem is

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01:15:44,812 --> 01:15:47,852
Speaker 2: uneducated people who don't know these rules and are still

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01:15:47,893 --> 01:15:49,892
Speaker 2: slamming the sugar. But you know you've got to look

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01:15:49,933 --> 01:15:52,412
Speaker 2: for At Coca Cola, for example, the sales of their

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01:15:52,492 --> 01:15:55,892
Speaker 2: no sugar products are skyrocketing, while there are you know,

1577
01:15:55,933 --> 01:15:59,173
Speaker 2: their their full full fat version, their full sugar version

1578
01:15:59,492 --> 01:16:03,292
Speaker 2: is coming down. So the messages getting through, Chris, although

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01:16:04,612 --> 01:16:06,213
Speaker 2: seem to be representing that.

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Speaker 26: Is that stuff that they're putting in the no sugar

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01:16:10,452 --> 01:16:14,293
Speaker 26: stuff or the zero sugar where they add the South

1582
01:16:14,293 --> 01:16:20,452
Speaker 26: of stuff, the other sweetness. Some of those sweetness real

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01:16:20,732 --> 01:16:23,612
Speaker 26: de more than what their original sugar was.

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01:16:23,973 --> 01:16:26,692
Speaker 2: I listened to this this full podcast. If you listened

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01:16:26,732 --> 01:16:31,173
Speaker 2: to the Hubman podcast at all, Chris, No, No, it's

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01:16:31,213 --> 01:16:35,012
Speaker 2: a you know, it's a doctor called a doctor Huberman. Anyway,

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01:16:35,053 --> 01:16:38,532
Speaker 2: he investigates in house things, needed a big investigation into

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01:16:38,572 --> 01:16:41,293
Speaker 2: the no sugar products, and he came back that they

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01:16:41,333 --> 01:16:44,253
Speaker 2: are fine. You know, you'd be better to drink water,

1590
01:16:44,492 --> 01:16:48,492
Speaker 2: but they're so significantly better than drinking the full sugar

1591
01:16:48,572 --> 01:16:51,692
Speaker 2: versions of it that he ultimately came to the conclusion

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01:16:51,692 --> 01:16:52,572
Speaker 2: that they are a good thing.

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01:16:55,293 --> 01:16:57,452
Speaker 26: Anything's better than what they're doing to us anyway.

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01:16:57,572 --> 01:17:00,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, Chris, good on you, mate, Thanks you, cal Thank

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01:17:00,412 --> 01:17:04,173
Speaker 3: you very much. Right, it is eight minutes to three.

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01:17:04,213 --> 01:17:07,012
Speaker 3: Will take another couple of calls when we come back.

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Speaker 3: And the text number nine, two numbers, ZER, one hundred

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Speaker 3: and eighty, ten eighty.

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Speaker 5: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

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Speaker 5: along the way.

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Speaker 1: Style and design, have it all News talk said.

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Speaker 3: Be five to three has been a great discussion. A

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Speaker 3: couple of taps coming through.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So the book that Donna was talking about, a few

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Speaker 2: people have been texting through asking for the name of

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Speaker 2: the book and the authors. So we got right that

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Speaker 2: it's the Great Cholesterol Myth. It's by Johnny Bowden, PhD

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Speaker 2: and Stephen Sinatra, MD.

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Speaker 3: It's from Donna.

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Speaker 2: Thanks thanks for that. A lot of interest in their book,

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Speaker 2: and there is a lot of talk about whether Staton's

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01:17:46,412 --> 01:17:48,452
Speaker 2: are the best way for the rest of your life, yeah,

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01:17:48,853 --> 01:17:52,612
Speaker 2: or whether it statistically makes a reasonable difference to make

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01:17:52,652 --> 01:17:53,093
Speaker 2: it worth it.

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01:17:53,173 --> 01:17:55,053
Speaker 3: And just rowing back to your situation. You went to

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01:17:55,093 --> 01:17:57,612
Speaker 3: the doctor, you said, the doctor said Staddins might be

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01:17:57,732 --> 01:18:00,093
Speaker 3: for you, and I laid you do something about it.

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01:18:00,133 --> 01:18:01,612
Speaker 2: I said, you listened to me, buddy, I'm going to

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01:18:01,692 --> 01:18:04,093
Speaker 2: run five k day for six months and I'm going

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01:18:04,133 --> 01:18:06,732
Speaker 2: to come back to you. Doctor Kelly that was his name, yep,

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Speaker 2: And let's see. And so I did when I came back,

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01:18:09,333 --> 01:18:12,253
Speaker 2: and my cholesterol was sweet as yeah, very stick. That

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01:18:12,333 --> 01:18:13,972
Speaker 2: up is doctor Kelly's great man.

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Speaker 3: He's a great man.

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Speaker 17: Doctor Gillen.

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Speaker 3: Guys, green milk is more sugar than blue milk. Just

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01:18:18,213 --> 01:18:20,932
Speaker 3: a thought I would add, I don't know that, is it?

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01:18:21,412 --> 01:18:21,612
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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01:18:21,853 --> 01:18:23,412
Speaker 3: Yeah, we have green milk because we think it's the

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01:18:23,452 --> 01:18:25,333
Speaker 3: healthy option. Therein lies the problem.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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01:18:25,772 --> 01:18:27,852
Speaker 3: I think I'm pretty well educated on when it comes

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01:18:27,853 --> 01:18:29,093
Speaker 3: to nutrition, but clearly.

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01:18:28,853 --> 01:18:31,013
Speaker 2: Not well anyway. There's nothing that's changed my mind in

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01:18:31,053 --> 01:18:33,692
Speaker 2: the in the chat that the message for people from

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01:18:33,732 --> 01:18:37,612
Speaker 2: a young age should be that your health is your responsibility,

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01:18:37,732 --> 01:18:40,293
Speaker 2: and when you have children, their health is your responsibility,

1640
01:18:40,612 --> 01:18:45,132
Speaker 2: and the health system that's a partnership. They're your partners

1641
01:18:45,173 --> 01:18:46,812
Speaker 2: and your health they're not there. They're not there to

1642
01:18:46,853 --> 01:18:48,572
Speaker 2: save the problem. And if we keep believing they are,

1643
01:18:48,812 --> 01:18:50,213
Speaker 2: we're going to spend more and more and more in

1644
01:18:50,253 --> 01:18:52,012
Speaker 2: money and we're going to get worse and worse outcomes.

1645
01:18:52,093 --> 01:18:55,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, come on, New Zealand's right coming up after three o'clock.

1646
01:18:55,732 --> 01:18:58,093
Speaker 3: We want to chat to you about Liam Lawson. How

1647
01:18:58,133 --> 01:19:00,972
Speaker 3: do you feel about the noise surrounding what is going

1648
01:19:01,013 --> 01:19:02,973
Speaker 3: on with them? And we will say that they just

1649
01:19:03,053 --> 01:19:06,333
Speaker 3: reports at the stage. Yeah, absolutely, Oh Wright, Oh, eight

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01:19:06,412 --> 01:19:09,333
Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number four. If you

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Speaker 3: want to send a text message, new Sport and Weather

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Speaker 3: on its way. Great to have your company as always.

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Speaker 1: It's Mattie and Taylor Adams afternoons with the Volvo xc

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Speaker 1: N eighty on News Talk SEV.

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Speaker 3: Gooday to you, Welcome back into the show. Six pass three.

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01:19:30,452 --> 01:19:33,293
Speaker 3: Just a reminder and about twenty five minutes we're gonna

1658
01:19:33,372 --> 01:19:35,572
Speaker 3: have Matt the mechanicorn as part of our US the

1659
01:19:35,692 --> 01:19:39,253
Speaker 3: Experts series. He's got thirty eight years experience as a

1660
01:19:39,253 --> 01:19:41,852
Speaker 3: mechanic with pretty much every car you can imagine, so

1661
01:19:41,973 --> 01:19:42,932
Speaker 3: he's the man to chat too.

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01:19:43,173 --> 01:19:44,612
Speaker 2: Yeah, So if you want to get an early nineteen

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01:19:44,732 --> 01:19:47,372
Speaker 2: ninety two text in your little problems with your car

1664
01:19:47,692 --> 01:19:51,652
Speaker 2: and also eight one hundred and eighteen eighty after three

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01:19:51,692 --> 01:19:53,973
Speaker 2: point thirty. Yeah, he knows everything.

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Speaker 3: Always ples, so get it now. But right now, let's

1667
01:19:57,213 --> 01:19:59,372
Speaker 3: have a chat about this. Key we driver Liam Lawson

1668
01:19:59,452 --> 01:20:02,053
Speaker 3: has reportedly been dropped by the Red Bull Formula One

1669
01:20:02,093 --> 01:20:05,412
Speaker 3: team just two races into the twenty twenty five season.

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01:20:05,492 --> 01:20:09,612
Speaker 3: Dutch newspaper The Telegraph is report by multiple sources that

1671
01:20:10,053 --> 01:20:13,133
Speaker 3: he will be replaced by Yuki Sonoda. So to have

1672
01:20:13,173 --> 01:20:14,933
Speaker 3: a chat about this, dirty.

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01:20:14,732 --> 01:20:17,213
Speaker 2: Dutch everyone involved, So yeah, sorry.

1674
01:20:17,053 --> 01:20:19,333
Speaker 3: To have a chat about this. We've brought in New

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01:20:19,452 --> 01:20:23,812
Speaker 3: Zealand Herald sports reporter Alex Powell. Get a Alex, so

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01:20:23,853 --> 01:20:24,692
Speaker 3: where are we at with this?

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01:20:25,093 --> 01:20:25,372
Speaker 2: So?

1678
01:20:25,452 --> 01:20:27,053
Speaker 3: How how confirmed is this?

1679
01:20:27,572 --> 01:20:29,493
Speaker 25: It's a bit waite and see at the moment, obviously

1680
01:20:29,612 --> 01:20:32,293
Speaker 25: being the middle of the night for Europe, it's going

1681
01:20:32,333 --> 01:20:35,972
Speaker 25: to be a bit of a see what happens. Yeah, look,

1682
01:20:36,372 --> 01:20:38,612
Speaker 25: it's it's been a bit of a weird day having

1683
01:20:38,732 --> 01:20:41,012
Speaker 25: come into this. I was I'm planning on doing something

1684
01:20:41,013 --> 01:20:44,572
Speaker 25: completely different today, but like every indication is that this

1685
01:20:44,692 --> 01:20:46,293
Speaker 25: might actually be true and what's happening?

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01:20:46,973 --> 01:20:50,452
Speaker 3: So if the reports are true. When do we expect

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01:20:50,492 --> 01:20:51,613
Speaker 3: to have that confirmed?

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01:20:52,572 --> 01:20:53,412
Speaker 25: Well, I mean they're going to have to do it

1689
01:20:53,452 --> 01:20:56,012
Speaker 25: pretty quick because there's a race the weekend after this one.

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01:20:56,173 --> 01:20:58,253
Speaker 25: So if they're going to go to Japan and there's

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01:20:58,293 --> 01:21:00,532
Speaker 25: just two drivers and two different cars than what we

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01:21:00,572 --> 01:21:02,213
Speaker 25: had in China, then it'll be a bit of a

1693
01:21:02,293 --> 01:21:05,372
Speaker 25: few questions asked. If it comes by the end of

1694
01:21:05,412 --> 01:21:06,652
Speaker 25: the week. I would not be surprised.

1695
01:21:07,133 --> 01:21:10,572
Speaker 2: What's the rationality about this? Because he said two races

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01:21:10,893 --> 01:21:14,812
Speaker 2: and everyone knows the problems of driving, and it was

1697
01:21:14,893 --> 01:21:18,133
Speaker 2: Steppen's cart, right. Everyone knows that it's calibrated for him,

1698
01:21:18,133 --> 01:21:20,293
Speaker 2: it's set up for him, and no one can control

1699
01:21:20,293 --> 01:21:22,772
Speaker 2: the beast, right, So replacing them is not going to

1700
01:21:22,812 --> 01:21:24,213
Speaker 2: solve that problem.

1701
01:21:24,452 --> 01:21:24,612
Speaker 20: No.

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01:21:24,692 --> 01:21:26,492
Speaker 25: I mean there's two sort of ways you can look

1703
01:21:26,492 --> 01:21:30,412
Speaker 25: at it. One is competitively. We've seen already the season

1704
01:21:30,612 --> 01:21:32,892
Speaker 25: McLaren have two cars that can score points, Ferrari have

1705
01:21:32,893 --> 01:21:34,972
Speaker 25: two cars that can score points, and Mercedes now two

1706
01:21:34,973 --> 01:21:37,213
Speaker 25: cars that can score points. If red Bull want to

1707
01:21:37,293 --> 01:21:39,612
Speaker 25: actually fight and win this world title, they're going to

1708
01:21:39,692 --> 01:21:43,372
Speaker 25: need two and Liam might just not be the guy

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01:21:43,452 --> 01:21:45,333
Speaker 25: for right now, he's only got I think it's now

1710
01:21:45,333 --> 01:21:47,532
Speaker 25: what thirteen fourteen races worth of experience.

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01:21:47,572 --> 01:21:48,253
Speaker 2: That's just not enough.

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01:21:48,253 --> 01:21:51,932
Speaker 25: It's thirteen. So giving it to Sonoda, who's been there

1713
01:21:51,973 --> 01:21:54,213
Speaker 25: for four years, admittedly with the junior team, which is

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01:21:54,253 --> 01:21:56,412
Speaker 25: a very different setup, might be a little bit of

1715
01:21:56,412 --> 01:21:58,612
Speaker 25: a safer option and also just to take Liam Lawson

1716
01:21:58,612 --> 01:21:59,692
Speaker 25: out of the firing line.

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01:21:59,812 --> 01:22:02,093
Speaker 2: Yeah right, And so this isn't just going to be

1718
01:22:02,293 --> 01:22:04,213
Speaker 2: if it happens, you don't see it as being just

1719
01:22:04,452 --> 01:22:07,532
Speaker 2: a one off for the hometown guy to be racing.

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01:22:07,732 --> 01:22:10,212
Speaker 25: No, that would be such a disruption for both drivers.

1721
01:22:10,293 --> 01:22:12,852
Speaker 25: I mean, Yuki Synod would love it because you know

1722
01:22:12,973 --> 01:22:14,892
Speaker 25: it's the team he wants to be driving for it

1723
01:22:15,013 --> 01:22:16,692
Speaker 25: his home track. Then he knows very well everyone's going

1724
01:22:16,732 --> 01:22:18,452
Speaker 25: to be there cheering for him anyway. They're probably going

1725
01:22:18,452 --> 01:22:20,253
Speaker 25: to be decked out in Red Bull kit now rather

1726
01:22:20,293 --> 01:22:21,333
Speaker 25: than racing Bulls kit.

1727
01:22:22,412 --> 01:22:25,732
Speaker 2: So do we if this happens, do we as a

1728
01:22:25,853 --> 01:22:29,093
Speaker 2: nation stop drinking Red Bull and go back to key

1729
01:22:29,133 --> 01:22:33,013
Speaker 2: we owned V and start having the V in vodkas.

1730
01:22:34,013 --> 01:22:37,812
Speaker 25: I mean that's up to the individual. I guess no, Look,

1731
01:22:37,893 --> 01:22:42,293
Speaker 25: I wouldn't if Red Bull do do this. Yeah, I

1732
01:22:42,293 --> 01:22:45,572
Speaker 25: imagine they will still support Liam Lawson admittedly in a

1733
01:22:45,572 --> 01:22:49,692
Speaker 25: different team, but they've invested millions into it. There was

1734
01:22:49,732 --> 01:22:52,812
Speaker 25: options for Liam to leave Red Bull last year when

1735
01:22:53,372 --> 01:22:55,412
Speaker 25: Audi were interested in them and Williams were interested in them,

1736
01:22:55,412 --> 01:22:57,932
Speaker 25: and Red Bull said no, he's our guy. To walk

1737
01:22:57,933 --> 01:23:00,532
Speaker 25: away from that after two years of two races rather

1738
01:23:01,093 --> 01:23:03,572
Speaker 25: would be huge, like even by Red Bull standards, and

1739
01:23:03,612 --> 01:23:05,812
Speaker 25: they are rootless with drivers. You know, Liam would now

1740
01:23:05,853 --> 01:23:07,972
Speaker 25: be the fourth teammate to fall by the way side

1741
01:23:07,973 --> 01:23:10,213
Speaker 25: of Max Stappen. But to give up on that now,

1742
01:23:10,933 --> 01:23:13,692
Speaker 25: I just don't understand why they would get rid of

1743
01:23:13,692 --> 01:23:15,692
Speaker 25: them all together, if not just move them sideways for

1744
01:23:15,732 --> 01:23:18,372
Speaker 25: a bit and let them learn the ropes get settled.

1745
01:23:18,572 --> 01:23:21,253
Speaker 2: So you're saying that there would there could potentially be

1746
01:23:21,333 --> 01:23:23,612
Speaker 2: a part back. I would want there to be.

1747
01:23:23,772 --> 01:23:26,532
Speaker 25: However, none of the drivers who have been dropped before

1748
01:23:26,532 --> 01:23:29,173
Speaker 25: I have ever come back. Even Pierre Gazly went from

1749
01:23:29,293 --> 01:23:31,293
Speaker 25: Red Bull back to what was then Alpha Tower is

1750
01:23:31,372 --> 01:23:33,772
Speaker 25: now Racing Balls, won a race and then there was

1751
01:23:33,772 --> 01:23:35,452
Speaker 25: still vacancies and couldn't.

1752
01:23:35,093 --> 01:23:35,852
Speaker 3: Get a look at.

1753
01:23:36,333 --> 01:23:38,372
Speaker 2: So what are the KPIs basically to get back?

1754
01:23:38,933 --> 01:23:41,892
Speaker 25: I mean score points, you know, if that score points

1755
01:23:41,933 --> 01:23:43,532
Speaker 25: proved to be sort of the best of the rest

1756
01:23:43,532 --> 01:23:44,973
Speaker 25: outside of the big four teams.

1757
01:23:44,732 --> 01:23:46,732
Speaker 2: Because the Red Bull Racing car seemed to be going

1758
01:23:46,812 --> 01:23:47,532
Speaker 2: quite well.

1759
01:23:47,973 --> 01:23:51,053
Speaker 25: And you mean the racing balls cast racing, But I

1760
01:23:51,053 --> 01:23:52,532
Speaker 25: mean is that a sign that they're doing well or

1761
01:23:52,532 --> 01:23:54,532
Speaker 25: is that a sign of how far back Red Bull

1762
01:23:54,572 --> 01:23:56,532
Speaker 25: actually are that even the step and saying this isn't

1763
01:23:56,532 --> 01:23:58,412
Speaker 25: good enough, we need to actually work on this because

1764
01:23:58,452 --> 01:24:00,492
Speaker 25: the sister team it's supposed to be for Juinior driders

1765
01:24:00,492 --> 01:24:01,972
Speaker 25: shouldn't be as close to them as they are.

1766
01:24:02,173 --> 01:24:03,932
Speaker 3: What does that do for Red Bull as a brand though,

1767
01:24:03,973 --> 01:24:07,133
Speaker 3: as racing with Christian Horner and Helmet Marco and all

1768
01:24:07,133 --> 01:24:09,652
Speaker 3: the rest of them. When they ditched these drivers and

1769
01:24:09,812 --> 01:24:13,253
Speaker 3: if these reports are true after two races, does that

1770
01:24:13,333 --> 01:24:16,333
Speaker 3: not impact them as a racing brand and as a.

1771
01:24:16,293 --> 01:24:18,492
Speaker 25: Team if they wouldn't races off the back of it,

1772
01:24:18,532 --> 01:24:20,732
Speaker 25: then no, I mean, like we say, this is not

1773
01:24:20,893 --> 01:24:22,732
Speaker 25: this is I'm pressing it to go after two races,

1774
01:24:22,732 --> 01:24:26,052
Speaker 25: But to get rid of a driver is not a surprise.

1775
01:24:26,293 --> 01:24:27,892
Speaker 25: They have had quite a good record with it. When

1776
01:24:27,893 --> 01:24:30,213
Speaker 25: they dropped Alex album for Sergio Peris, they won what

1777
01:24:30,412 --> 01:24:32,812
Speaker 25: three constructors titles and four drivers titles off the back

1778
01:24:32,853 --> 01:24:35,612
Speaker 25: of it. So whether or not, it will pay off

1779
01:24:35,692 --> 01:24:36,812
Speaker 25: immediately this season.

1780
01:24:37,213 --> 01:24:40,932
Speaker 2: Who knows well? Would you stick around Alex O eight

1781
01:24:41,053 --> 01:24:43,293
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty nine nine two. If you

1782
01:24:43,293 --> 01:24:44,932
Speaker 2: want to send a text, if you've got any questions

1783
01:24:44,973 --> 01:24:48,492
Speaker 2: on this, anything you want to say about Liam Lawson

1784
01:24:48,532 --> 01:24:50,973
Speaker 2: in this situation, then yeah, gives a ring, sent its

1785
01:24:51,053 --> 01:24:53,372
Speaker 2: text and we'll put the questions to Alex absolutely oh

1786
01:24:53,412 --> 01:24:55,612
Speaker 2: eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

1787
01:24:55,652 --> 01:24:58,732
Speaker 2: to call. And as you mentioned, Matt nine two nine too,

1788
01:24:58,732 --> 01:25:00,572
Speaker 2: if you want to send a text message.

1789
01:25:00,572 --> 01:25:03,772
Speaker 3: It is twelve past three, back three shortly. You're listening

1790
01:25:03,812 --> 01:25:09,812
Speaker 3: to Matt and Tyler. Good afternoon to you. Afternoon. It's

1791
01:25:09,812 --> 01:25:13,053
Speaker 3: a quarter past three and we are talking about Liam

1792
01:25:13,133 --> 01:25:15,492
Speaker 3: Lawson and we've got in studio with US New Zealand

1793
01:25:15,492 --> 01:25:19,013
Speaker 3: heeral sports reporter Alex Powell. Thanks for hanging with us, Alex.

1794
01:25:18,812 --> 01:25:19,692
Speaker 25: No problem, Thanks for havings.

1795
01:25:19,692 --> 01:25:21,732
Speaker 2: We've got a whole lot of questions coming through on

1796
01:25:21,893 --> 01:25:25,093
Speaker 2: nine two nine two. So the story went that Sonoda

1797
01:25:25,173 --> 01:25:27,213
Speaker 2: was joined at the hit with Honda and Red Bull

1798
01:25:27,293 --> 01:25:30,053
Speaker 2: are leaving Honda. Has any of that changed.

1799
01:25:30,013 --> 01:25:32,013
Speaker 25: Nope, Honda and Red Bull will part ways at the

1800
01:25:32,093 --> 01:25:34,253
Speaker 25: end of the season, Honda instead go to Aston, Martin

1801
01:25:34,333 --> 01:25:37,213
Speaker 25: and Ford come in to Red Bull. I mean, look,

1802
01:25:37,253 --> 01:25:39,173
Speaker 25: if you're Yuki Sonoda, you go on to Red Bull

1803
01:25:39,213 --> 01:25:41,892
Speaker 25: and you start performing, getting podiums, winning races, then they're

1804
01:25:41,933 --> 01:25:44,053
Speaker 25: obviously going to keep him on regardless of who is

1805
01:25:44,093 --> 01:25:44,532
Speaker 25: backer is.

1806
01:25:44,812 --> 01:25:46,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you think there's any chance of that? Do

1807
01:25:46,452 --> 01:25:48,372
Speaker 2: you think he's just going to have the same problems

1808
01:25:48,372 --> 01:25:48,812
Speaker 2: as Awso?

1809
01:25:49,053 --> 01:25:50,772
Speaker 25: I would like to think he'd probably have the same

1810
01:25:50,772 --> 01:25:53,253
Speaker 25: problems as Lowto, but that's just me being a biased Kiwi.

1811
01:25:53,572 --> 01:25:55,492
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a good teach here. Everyone is talking

1812
01:25:55,532 --> 01:25:58,133
Speaker 3: about the driver's being dropped. Let's discuss the car. Max

1813
01:25:58,173 --> 01:26:00,812
Speaker 3: has seid himself. He's not getting the best out of

1814
01:26:00,853 --> 01:26:03,053
Speaker 3: the car. He is struggling. Perhaps it's the car that's

1815
01:26:03,053 --> 01:26:05,932
Speaker 3: the problem, not the driver. Thoughts Absolutely, Yeah, that's that's

1816
01:26:05,933 --> 01:26:06,452
Speaker 3: so clear.

1817
01:26:06,492 --> 01:26:08,532
Speaker 25: Like I was on Kerry whim Show this morning and said,

1818
01:26:08,612 --> 01:26:11,692
Speaker 25: lightning doesn't strike four times, you don't get Pierre Gasley

1819
01:26:11,812 --> 01:26:14,612
Speaker 25: struggles at Red Bull and succeeds elsewhere, Alex Albon struggles

1820
01:26:14,612 --> 01:26:17,333
Speaker 25: at Red Bull and succeeds elsewhere. Sergio Peri's struggled at

1821
01:26:17,333 --> 01:26:19,692
Speaker 25: Red Bull, had performed well elsewhere and might get another

1822
01:26:19,772 --> 01:26:21,852
Speaker 25: chance to do the same again. So look, that's very

1823
01:26:21,853 --> 01:26:24,892
Speaker 25: clearly not a driver issue. Max Verstappen is for me

1824
01:26:24,973 --> 01:26:26,892
Speaker 25: the best driver, but we'd probably have seen he's up

1825
01:26:26,933 --> 01:26:30,052
Speaker 25: there with Schumacher and Hamilton for me, but even he's

1826
01:26:30,173 --> 01:26:31,732
Speaker 25: struggling to get around the track at the moment.

1827
01:26:31,893 --> 01:26:34,572
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the sticks says this, how do you say,

1828
01:26:34,612 --> 01:26:36,492
Speaker 2: how do you respond to this? James? I doubt the

1829
01:26:36,572 --> 01:26:39,293
Speaker 2: rumors are true. Lawson raced in the Super Formula Series,

1830
01:26:39,293 --> 01:26:41,733
Speaker 2: which involved a fair amount of time at the Suzuki

1831
01:26:41,772 --> 01:26:44,972
Speaker 2: track in Japan. It's possible he may have some speed there,

1832
01:26:45,013 --> 01:26:47,052
Speaker 2: so I reckon he will still be there in Japan.

1833
01:26:47,133 --> 01:26:50,052
Speaker 2: How robust are are these these these rumors?

1834
01:26:50,253 --> 01:26:51,933
Speaker 25: Yep, that's a very good point. That was sort of

1835
01:26:51,933 --> 01:26:54,012
Speaker 25: the save and grace of why we thought Liam would

1836
01:26:54,053 --> 01:26:56,572
Speaker 25: be given extra time in Japan. He's raced there four times,

1837
01:26:56,572 --> 01:26:58,692
Speaker 25: three times in Super Formula back in twenty twenty three,

1838
01:26:58,732 --> 01:27:00,173
Speaker 25: and then of course when he filled in for Daniel

1839
01:27:00,253 --> 01:27:04,652
Speaker 25: Ricardo that same season. Yeah, I would like to think

1840
01:27:04,692 --> 01:27:06,973
Speaker 25: he does get the chance at Suzuka, but all the

1841
01:27:07,053 --> 01:27:09,333
Speaker 25: messaging from people as ov to today is that, yeah,

1842
01:27:09,372 --> 01:27:10,452
Speaker 25: there is a bit more in.

1843
01:27:10,372 --> 01:27:15,812
Speaker 2: This, and there is history of rumors being leaked through

1844
01:27:15,812 --> 01:27:16,852
Speaker 2: the Dutch media, right.

1845
01:27:16,893 --> 01:27:19,372
Speaker 25: Yeah, absolutely, the Dutch. The Dutch media because of the

1846
01:27:19,612 --> 01:27:22,173
Speaker 25: stap and the stap in camp, they are normally pretty

1847
01:27:22,173 --> 01:27:22,892
Speaker 25: good with this stuff.

1848
01:27:22,933 --> 01:27:24,932
Speaker 2: So that sounds like there's someone in the that's been

1849
01:27:25,013 --> 01:27:26,973
Speaker 2: step VN steppan that's leaking at them, isn't it.

1850
01:27:27,093 --> 01:27:32,932
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, yeah, we got them. This one's a good one. Guys.

1851
01:27:32,973 --> 01:27:35,053
Speaker 3: I'm not a motorsport fan, but Liam Lawson is only

1852
01:27:35,053 --> 01:27:38,772
Speaker 3: a kid at twenty three. In this will hopefully be

1853
01:27:38,812 --> 01:27:41,253
Speaker 3: part of a learning process Forum. Success doesn't always follow

1854
01:27:41,293 --> 01:27:44,293
Speaker 3: a linear path. He will benefit and grow and become

1855
01:27:44,333 --> 01:27:46,772
Speaker 3: strong with through this my thoughts. But keen on your

1856
01:27:46,812 --> 01:27:49,652
Speaker 3: sports reporters thoughts on that. Who's written that that's a

1857
01:27:49,692 --> 01:27:51,932
Speaker 3: Texter no name.

1858
01:27:51,973 --> 01:27:53,093
Speaker 25: That's a bloody good point.

1859
01:27:53,173 --> 01:27:53,612
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1860
01:27:53,652 --> 01:27:56,452
Speaker 25: So the reason why red Bull backed Liam into that

1861
01:27:56,532 --> 01:27:59,333
Speaker 25: seat was because they know how mentally tough he is.

1862
01:28:00,333 --> 01:28:03,612
Speaker 25: All of their such psychometric evaluations through last year showed

1863
01:28:03,612 --> 01:28:06,013
Speaker 25: that he was mentally stronger than a Pierre Gasler and

1864
01:28:06,013 --> 01:28:08,213
Speaker 25: Alex Albon who really crumbled under the way of ex

1865
01:28:09,452 --> 01:28:11,093
Speaker 25: I don't think this will be the end of Lam

1866
01:28:11,173 --> 01:28:13,053
Speaker 25: Lawson in Formula one. It might be the end of

1867
01:28:13,093 --> 01:28:14,852
Speaker 25: him at Red Bull. But as we've seen from the

1868
01:28:14,853 --> 01:28:16,452
Speaker 25: other drivers who have come in and sat next to

1869
01:28:16,532 --> 01:28:19,812
Speaker 25: step in and ultimately struggled, you can go away elsewhere

1870
01:28:19,853 --> 01:28:20,972
Speaker 25: and make it so.

1871
01:28:21,812 --> 01:28:25,572
Speaker 2: Knowing the struggles that other drivers have had in that seat,

1872
01:28:25,893 --> 01:28:29,852
Speaker 2: was it the right decision for him to take that option?

1873
01:28:30,652 --> 01:28:30,812
Speaker 7: When?

1874
01:28:30,973 --> 01:28:31,173
Speaker 5: When?

1875
01:28:31,213 --> 01:28:33,133
Speaker 2: What if this? If this plays out like it is,

1876
01:28:33,253 --> 01:28:35,532
Speaker 2: it's sort of played out like people to expect it,

1877
01:28:36,452 --> 01:28:38,213
Speaker 2: was it the right thing to do? Do these?

1878
01:28:38,492 --> 01:28:38,732
Speaker 3: You know?

1879
01:28:38,973 --> 01:28:40,572
Speaker 2: Would you do? You just have to have such a

1880
01:28:40,612 --> 01:28:43,412
Speaker 2: phenomenal ego to be able to take every corner and

1881
01:28:43,812 --> 01:28:46,452
Speaker 2: do what you have to do. And if one that,

1882
01:28:46,532 --> 01:28:49,013
Speaker 2: if a seat has offered you like that, you just

1883
01:28:49,053 --> 01:28:51,052
Speaker 2: go yeah, I back myself.

1884
01:28:51,173 --> 01:28:51,412
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1885
01:28:51,492 --> 01:28:53,133
Speaker 25: And that's what Yuki Snoda is going to be faced

1886
01:28:53,173 --> 01:28:54,852
Speaker 25: with over the next couple of days and weeks, isn't

1887
01:28:54,853 --> 01:28:57,372
Speaker 25: he You'll be saying, be careful because everyone who has

1888
01:28:57,372 --> 01:28:58,933
Speaker 25: gone into this job has failed, and why will you

1889
01:28:58,973 --> 01:29:00,892
Speaker 25: have any different? And all said because I'm Yukis Noda

1890
01:29:00,933 --> 01:29:02,612
Speaker 25: in the same way that Lam Lawson said that. Because

1891
01:29:02,612 --> 01:29:04,652
Speaker 25: I'm lam Lawson. I'm sure he didn't say that because

1892
01:29:04,652 --> 01:29:06,372
Speaker 25: he's not that cocky to talk about himself from the

1893
01:29:06,372 --> 01:29:09,213
Speaker 25: third person. But you're right, you do, like these are

1894
01:29:09,213 --> 01:29:11,532
Speaker 25: the twenty best drivers and theory in the world.

1895
01:29:11,612 --> 01:29:13,772
Speaker 2: You know, they use one and one and one and

1896
01:29:13,812 --> 01:29:15,212
Speaker 2: one across your life to get.

1897
01:29:15,013 --> 01:29:17,093
Speaker 25: There, and then all of a sudden you can't win.

1898
01:29:17,173 --> 01:29:18,213
Speaker 25: And it's how you deal with that.

1899
01:29:18,772 --> 01:29:20,213
Speaker 2: You think you're the one that's going to be able

1900
01:29:20,213 --> 01:29:20,932
Speaker 2: to change it up.

1901
01:29:21,853 --> 01:29:25,333
Speaker 3: The sticks for ass If Liam gets swapped to racing balls,

1902
01:29:26,013 --> 01:29:27,812
Speaker 3: I hope he smokes them in Japan and proves it's

1903
01:29:27,853 --> 01:29:29,572
Speaker 3: the Karen not the driver. If that was the case,

1904
01:29:29,612 --> 01:29:32,253
Speaker 3: can he ever get back to the Tier one team?

1905
01:29:33,532 --> 01:29:36,452
Speaker 25: It's yeah, like I said before, I don't see that

1906
01:29:36,492 --> 01:29:38,612
Speaker 25: why there's any reason why he couldn't, But it would

1907
01:29:38,652 --> 01:29:41,333
Speaker 25: be unprecedented. No one has ever gone down back down

1908
01:29:41,412 --> 01:29:43,293
Speaker 25: to the junior team and then come up. You know,

1909
01:29:43,372 --> 01:29:45,173
Speaker 25: it's just not how they do it. It's such a

1910
01:29:45,213 --> 01:29:47,812
Speaker 25: results business that you know someone else can catch your

1911
01:29:47,812 --> 01:29:49,852
Speaker 25: eye and you go, you know, and say, maybe, well

1912
01:29:49,893 --> 01:29:51,412
Speaker 25: what about hermanstead of the guys we've got in the

1913
01:29:51,492 --> 01:29:54,412
Speaker 25: junior team. Remember, let's not forget Liam was the first

1914
01:29:54,412 --> 01:29:56,213
Speaker 25: guy to be promoted from the junior team into the

1915
01:29:56,253 --> 01:29:59,173
Speaker 25: senior team since twenty nineteen. You know that's what five

1916
01:29:59,253 --> 01:30:01,892
Speaker 25: years without any growth, and Red Bull have the best

1917
01:30:01,933 --> 01:30:04,133
Speaker 25: driver development program in the world. They just don't get

1918
01:30:04,133 --> 01:30:06,412
Speaker 25: a chance because it is so results driven that you

1919
01:30:06,412 --> 01:30:08,093
Speaker 25: have to get someone who's winning, not just someone who's

1920
01:30:08,093 --> 01:30:08,932
Speaker 25: your Yeah.

1921
01:30:08,732 --> 01:30:11,293
Speaker 2: We're talking to sports reporter Alex Powell. If you've got

1922
01:30:11,293 --> 01:30:13,692
Speaker 2: some questions to them on this whole Liam lawsome situation

1923
01:30:13,812 --> 01:30:16,692
Speaker 2: nine two nine two or eight hundred eighty ten eighty,

1924
01:30:17,173 --> 01:30:19,812
Speaker 2: Graham says, real, Liam Lawson. The entirety of the blame

1925
01:30:19,812 --> 01:30:23,692
Speaker 2: for this messes at Red Bull. It can directly be replaced,

1926
01:30:23,853 --> 01:30:26,092
Speaker 2: can be directly placed at the feet of Christian Horner.

1927
01:30:26,333 --> 01:30:29,013
Speaker 2: He brought back as bestie Ricardo. A total has been

1928
01:30:29,013 --> 01:30:31,812
Speaker 2: into the Racing Bulls team. When Lawson should have been

1929
01:30:32,293 --> 01:30:36,412
Speaker 2: a year competing against sonoda and gaining experience of Formula One,

1930
01:30:36,652 --> 01:30:39,692
Speaker 2: then they could have judged both drivers across an entire season.

1931
01:30:39,853 --> 01:30:41,973
Speaker 2: Ricardo was never going to be the driver he was,

1932
01:30:42,173 --> 01:30:44,213
Speaker 2: and Lawson missed the valuable time in the car as

1933
01:30:44,253 --> 01:30:46,852
Speaker 2: a result of the total failure of that experiment. Just

1934
01:30:46,893 --> 01:30:49,652
Speaker 2: while I'm here, a quick change of topic to Indy Cars.

1935
01:30:49,853 --> 01:30:52,532
Speaker 2: Stingray Rob has to be the best racing car driver

1936
01:30:52,853 --> 01:30:56,492
Speaker 2: name ever since Dick Trickle I was racing NASCAR GA

1937
01:30:56,492 --> 01:30:57,372
Speaker 2: great text.

1938
01:30:57,093 --> 01:30:59,852
Speaker 25: Big agree on on Stingray Rob He loves Stingray Trickle.

1939
01:30:59,893 --> 01:31:01,253
Speaker 3: That's a fantastic name.

1940
01:31:01,412 --> 01:31:04,612
Speaker 25: Yeah. On the Riccardo point, it is important to point

1941
01:31:04,652 --> 01:31:07,213
Speaker 25: out that when Liam came in to replace Daniel Ricardo

1942
01:31:07,253 --> 01:31:09,572
Speaker 25: in twenty twenty three and then was overlooked anyway, the

1943
01:31:09,612 --> 01:31:11,812
Speaker 25: contract has already been signed by the time Lemba was

1944
01:31:11,812 --> 01:31:13,452
Speaker 25: in there, so there wasn't a seat there for him

1945
01:31:13,492 --> 01:31:15,293
Speaker 25: unless they sacked someone, right.

1946
01:31:15,412 --> 01:31:19,852
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, this one is pretty to the point. Liam

1947
01:31:19,933 --> 01:31:22,412
Speaker 3: Lawson is done. He's going to be out of the team.

1948
01:31:22,452 --> 01:31:25,172
Speaker 3: No coming back from this Blue is chance, highly unlikely

1949
01:31:25,372 --> 01:31:29,293
Speaker 3: to get another shot. Name on that no name, no name.

1950
01:31:29,572 --> 01:31:34,253
Speaker 2: Benedict Arnold, country hater, unpatriotic.

1951
01:31:34,372 --> 01:31:37,213
Speaker 25: Yeah, no, Look, I understand why people would think that way,

1952
01:31:37,652 --> 01:31:40,652
Speaker 25: but I think Red Bull have so much faith and

1953
01:31:40,732 --> 01:31:43,372
Speaker 25: Lemmis remembers that they wrote it into his contract that

1954
01:31:43,412 --> 01:31:45,572
Speaker 25: if they didn't offer him a seat for twenty twenty five,

1955
01:31:45,612 --> 01:31:48,092
Speaker 25: he could leave. You know, they don't do that unless

1956
01:31:48,133 --> 01:31:50,612
Speaker 25: they believe. I cannot see a world where they will

1957
01:31:50,652 --> 01:31:53,133
Speaker 25: just give up on him after two races. If this was,

1958
01:31:53,173 --> 01:31:55,532
Speaker 25: you know, twenty two races and they went, okay, maybe

1959
01:31:55,532 --> 01:31:57,412
Speaker 25: you're not the guy then sure, but not two races

1960
01:31:57,412 --> 01:32:00,452
Speaker 25: and they are. They are not that brutal to their

1961
01:32:00,492 --> 01:32:03,013
Speaker 25: own drivers. I know it might seem though that's not

1962
01:32:03,133 --> 01:32:06,013
Speaker 25: the case, but I just don't see a world where

1963
01:32:06,013 --> 01:32:06,972
Speaker 25: they give up on them all together.

1964
01:32:07,053 --> 01:32:09,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, great, Oh eight hundred and eight. Keen on your

1965
01:32:09,732 --> 01:32:12,333
Speaker 3: thoughts about what is going on with Liam Lawson and

1966
01:32:12,372 --> 01:32:15,333
Speaker 3: the noise surrounding him as a driver for Red Bull.

1967
01:32:15,532 --> 01:32:17,852
Speaker 3: And if you've got a question for Alex, ninety two

1968
01:32:17,973 --> 01:32:20,213
Speaker 3: nine two is the text number. It is twenty two

1969
01:32:20,253 --> 01:32:25,372
Speaker 3: past three.

1970
01:32:26,532 --> 01:32:30,213
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty

1971
01:32:30,293 --> 01:32:32,213
Speaker 1: ten eighty on Youth Talk zby.

1972
01:32:32,293 --> 01:32:35,012
Speaker 3: Good afternoon, and we're talking about reports that Liam Lawson

1973
01:32:35,053 --> 01:32:38,333
Speaker 3: has been dropped from Red Bull Racing and keen on

1974
01:32:38,372 --> 01:32:41,173
Speaker 3: your thoughts and questions. And we've got new Zellen Herald

1975
01:32:41,173 --> 01:32:44,173
Speaker 3: sports reporter Alex Powell in studio who's been all over

1976
01:32:44,213 --> 01:32:46,933
Speaker 3: the story from the get go. Alex, thanks again for

1977
01:32:47,013 --> 01:32:50,932
Speaker 3: coming in, Gavin your thoughts on this.

1978
01:32:52,612 --> 01:32:55,333
Speaker 21: Yeah, I'd just like to ask whether this is actually

1979
01:32:56,772 --> 01:33:01,452
Speaker 21: a fact and has it been announced by oracle red

1980
01:33:01,452 --> 01:33:06,812
Speaker 21: Bull or is it just speculation because there's so much

1981
01:33:07,173 --> 01:33:12,772
Speaker 21: noise around but I can't see any official announcement on it.

1982
01:33:13,452 --> 01:33:15,532
Speaker 25: Yeah, I mean it's a very good question. No, nothing's

1983
01:33:15,532 --> 01:33:17,893
Speaker 25: been made official by Red Bull yet. But as a journalist,

1984
01:33:17,973 --> 01:33:19,812
Speaker 25: when you're covering this, you're this close to it. If

1985
01:33:19,812 --> 01:33:21,812
Speaker 25: you're going to put a story out there and attach

1986
01:33:21,853 --> 01:33:24,412
Speaker 25: your name to it, you are going to be very confident.

1987
01:33:24,412 --> 01:33:26,772
Speaker 25: And that's what's going to happen. And like we said earlier,

1988
01:33:26,772 --> 01:33:29,133
Speaker 25: the Dutch media are actually very good at getting things

1989
01:33:29,133 --> 01:33:31,133
Speaker 25: from Red Bull and getting it out there before the

1990
01:33:31,133 --> 01:33:32,372
Speaker 25: team themselves.

1991
01:33:33,213 --> 01:33:37,173
Speaker 21: Yeah, I disagree with that. They've got a reputation of

1992
01:33:37,213 --> 01:33:41,133
Speaker 21: the Dutch media of jumping on the sandwagon, where a

1993
01:33:41,173 --> 01:33:43,852
Speaker 21: lot of the things that they've reported on have actually

1994
01:33:44,293 --> 01:33:46,572
Speaker 21: been didn't happen.

1995
01:33:46,772 --> 01:33:49,532
Speaker 2: So you've got an example of that, Gavin. Have you

1996
01:33:49,532 --> 01:33:52,013
Speaker 2: got an example of one of those things that I have?

1997
01:33:54,572 --> 01:33:56,852
Speaker 21: But I'm driving at the moment and I haven't got

1998
01:33:56,893 --> 01:34:00,012
Speaker 21: the facts in front of me, but I have had

1999
01:34:00,253 --> 01:34:04,492
Speaker 21: two or three instances whereby they've jumped the gun in

2000
01:34:05,213 --> 01:34:09,532
Speaker 21: mainly around the staff and actually, yeah.

2001
01:34:09,372 --> 01:34:11,372
Speaker 25: I mean, just to Gavin's point, there is nothing more

2002
01:34:11,412 --> 01:34:13,293
Speaker 25: than I would love for than this to be wrong

2003
01:34:13,452 --> 01:34:16,412
Speaker 25: and to get season at Red Bull. However, like all,

2004
01:34:16,692 --> 01:34:19,253
Speaker 25: there's no smoke without fire and everything that's out and

2005
01:34:19,293 --> 01:34:22,213
Speaker 25: the people I've spoken to today, I spoke to Limb's

2006
01:34:22,253 --> 01:34:24,933
Speaker 25: camp and their answer was, I don't know. It's a

2007
01:34:25,053 --> 01:34:26,532
Speaker 25: very easy no if it's not true.

2008
01:34:26,652 --> 01:34:29,772
Speaker 3: Yeah, just just on that because clearly all signs point

2009
01:34:29,853 --> 01:34:32,892
Speaker 3: to this being accurate or at least truth to to

2010
01:34:33,013 --> 01:34:34,973
Speaker 3: some of these reports. But is there a bit of

2011
01:34:35,013 --> 01:34:38,173
Speaker 3: skullduggery when it comes to Formula one and the information

2012
01:34:38,293 --> 01:34:39,692
Speaker 3: that gets linked from time to time?

2013
01:34:40,452 --> 01:34:40,732
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2014
01:34:41,053 --> 01:34:43,732
Speaker 25: I mean, but that's all sort of these political sports

2015
01:34:43,772 --> 01:34:45,893
Speaker 25: media rounds that you get people who will tell you

2016
01:34:45,933 --> 01:34:47,692
Speaker 25: things in their own interests, so you put it out

2017
01:34:47,732 --> 01:34:49,973
Speaker 25: there and then that maybe move something somewhere else and

2018
01:34:50,013 --> 01:34:53,652
Speaker 25: opens up something else for their client, you know. So yeah,

2019
01:34:53,933 --> 01:34:55,372
Speaker 25: there is a bit of musical chairs about it.

2020
01:34:55,452 --> 01:34:58,253
Speaker 2: Great, welcome to the show, I think.

2021
01:34:58,372 --> 01:35:01,213
Speaker 19: So two points, has he done enough with an apprenticeship?

2022
01:35:01,253 --> 01:35:04,972
Speaker 19: And secondly, isn't it typical that nasty corns your head

2023
01:35:05,013 --> 01:35:07,213
Speaker 19: before by the carond who wouldn't sign their name?

2024
01:35:08,492 --> 01:35:10,013
Speaker 21: Can we knock in the machine?

2025
01:35:10,812 --> 01:35:11,013
Speaker 6: You know?

2026
01:35:11,173 --> 01:35:13,173
Speaker 19: We love to knock people down. He's only a twenty

2027
01:35:13,213 --> 01:35:15,253
Speaker 19: three year old and I hope it all works out

2028
01:35:15,293 --> 01:35:17,933
Speaker 19: for him in the future. Things do come right. We

2029
01:35:17,973 --> 01:35:20,933
Speaker 19: should be proud of a guy into typical musual and

2030
01:35:20,973 --> 01:35:24,133
Speaker 19: less knock someone down who tries to cook rights about

2031
01:35:24,173 --> 01:35:26,572
Speaker 19: the precipice. It's just typical, isn't it.

2032
01:35:26,812 --> 01:35:29,412
Speaker 25: Yeah, I mean absolutely like they have. That's been really

2033
01:35:29,452 --> 01:35:32,213
Speaker 25: sad to see people willing to see Liam fail and

2034
01:35:32,492 --> 01:35:34,293
Speaker 25: ready to simper. What was your first question again?

2035
01:35:34,333 --> 01:35:34,612
Speaker 7: Sorry?

2036
01:35:36,053 --> 01:35:38,612
Speaker 19: Has he done enough of an apprenticeship? I mean has

2037
01:35:38,612 --> 01:35:42,213
Speaker 19: he served enough time? Or you know, does he need

2038
01:35:42,133 --> 01:35:44,293
Speaker 19: to hang in there bit wrong? Or is this.

2039
01:35:44,372 --> 01:35:47,932
Speaker 25: It's hard to say because he's only done you know

2040
01:35:48,013 --> 01:35:51,293
Speaker 25: what now thirteen races over over two years. But he

2041
01:35:51,372 --> 01:35:53,333
Speaker 25: has been with that team for a long time. He

2042
01:35:53,452 --> 01:35:55,973
Speaker 25: knows how the teams will have, both teams work. He's

2043
01:35:55,973 --> 01:35:58,293
Speaker 25: been the test driver, has been the reserve driver. But

2044
01:35:58,333 --> 01:36:00,293
Speaker 25: if you're right, if it is going to be something

2045
01:36:00,293 --> 01:36:02,013
Speaker 25: that takes more and more confidence and more and more

2046
01:36:02,013 --> 01:36:04,772
Speaker 25: time in the card to get right. Stappen didn't just

2047
01:36:04,812 --> 01:36:06,892
Speaker 25: go straight into Formula One and start winning. He was

2048
01:36:06,933 --> 01:36:09,013
Speaker 25: given time and then they moved up into Red Bull

2049
01:36:09,013 --> 01:36:10,333
Speaker 25: and I thought it was there any one straight away,

2050
01:36:10,372 --> 01:36:12,932
Speaker 25: So it's different for every driver and development's not linear.

2051
01:36:13,532 --> 01:36:15,173
Speaker 25: But like I mean, that's it's a very good point

2052
01:36:15,213 --> 01:36:16,973
Speaker 25: you made. This could actually be a good thing for

2053
01:36:17,093 --> 01:36:19,132
Speaker 25: Liam if he gets a bit more time in racing

2054
01:36:19,133 --> 01:36:20,892
Speaker 25: balls where there's a bit less spotlight on him.

2055
01:36:21,133 --> 01:36:21,452
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2056
01:36:21,492 --> 01:36:24,173
Speaker 2: Well, let's hope that everyone's got it wrong and it's

2057
01:36:24,213 --> 01:36:27,052
Speaker 2: not true. But looking at your face there, Alex.

2058
01:36:27,652 --> 01:36:30,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, but as we will get you back in when

2059
01:36:30,253 --> 01:36:32,852
Speaker 3: that breaks or Christian Horner comes out and confirms. All mate,

2060
01:36:32,893 --> 01:36:35,133
Speaker 3: Thank you very much and well done for all your

2061
01:36:35,133 --> 01:36:37,173
Speaker 3: work in the background on this and as we say,

2062
01:36:37,213 --> 01:36:39,293
Speaker 3: we'll get you back in in the next couple of days.

2063
01:36:39,452 --> 01:36:41,732
Speaker 2: Thanks, have a Heerald sports journalist Alex Powell.

2064
01:36:41,812 --> 01:36:44,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, coming up. It is part of our US

2065
01:36:44,293 --> 01:36:46,772
Speaker 3: the Experts series. Matt the Mechanic. He's got thirty eight

2066
01:36:47,013 --> 01:36:50,133
Speaker 3: years experience as a mechanic and pretty much every car

2067
01:36:50,173 --> 01:36:52,452
Speaker 3: franchise and brand you can think of. So now's your

2068
01:36:52,452 --> 01:36:55,293
Speaker 3: opportunity to ask him questions if you have and travel

2069
01:36:55,333 --> 01:36:57,692
Speaker 3: with your motor He is the man to chat too.

2070
01:36:57,853 --> 01:37:00,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Nine two nine two is the text number.

2071
01:37:01,293 --> 01:37:03,333
Speaker 2: But you've got a better chance on E one hundred

2072
01:37:03,372 --> 01:37:04,692
Speaker 2: and eighty ten, eight.

2073
01:37:04,692 --> 01:37:12,652
Speaker 3: Twenty nine past threefew's.

2074
01:37:09,173 --> 01:37:12,612
Speaker 14: Talks at the headlines with blue bubble taxis It's no

2075
01:37:12,732 --> 01:37:15,852
Speaker 14: trouble with a blue bubble. The government says it wants

2076
01:37:15,893 --> 01:37:19,132
Speaker 14: to help the super city grow. Speaking at the Herald's

2077
01:37:19,133 --> 01:37:24,292
Speaker 14: Project Auckland Luncheon, Infrastructure Minister Chris Bishop says Auckland's critical

2078
01:37:24,333 --> 01:37:27,253
Speaker 14: in New Zealand, and projects like a new harbour crossing

2079
01:37:27,532 --> 01:37:31,132
Speaker 14: and the city rail link are key. Police are considering

2080
01:37:31,213 --> 01:37:34,253
Speaker 14: charges for a man involved in an hour's long standoff

2081
01:37:34,532 --> 01:37:39,012
Speaker 14: with officers at Mittapata's unmanned police station in Fakatane after

2082
01:37:39,053 --> 01:37:40,012
Speaker 14: he forced entry.

2083
01:37:40,013 --> 01:37:41,972
Speaker 2: Today, three men.

2084
01:37:41,812 --> 01:37:45,253
Speaker 14: Have appeared in court accused of extorting shoppers at a

2085
01:37:45,293 --> 01:37:50,173
Speaker 14: South Auckland supermarket. Police reinvestigating the cold case of twenty

2086
01:37:50,173 --> 01:37:53,372
Speaker 14: five year old David Robinson's death on the West Coast

2087
01:37:53,372 --> 01:37:57,612
Speaker 14: in nineteen ninety eight are forensically examining firearms that could

2088
01:37:57,652 --> 01:38:01,652
Speaker 14: have been used to kill him. An electricity substation fire

2089
01:38:01,732 --> 01:38:05,492
Speaker 14: in London that closed he Throw airport last week is

2090
01:38:05,572 --> 01:38:09,412
Speaker 14: no longer being treated as a criminal matter. Why Auckland

2091
01:38:09,412 --> 01:38:12,812
Speaker 14: needs a bold new agenda for growth See the full column.

2092
01:38:12,812 --> 01:38:16,412
Speaker 14: It ends at Herald Premium now back to Matt Ethan Tyler, Adam.

2093
01:38:16,213 --> 01:38:18,532
Speaker 3: Thank you Rayleen, and it is time for Usk the

2094
01:38:18,612 --> 01:38:20,852
Speaker 3: expert in this week were I've got Matt Bullen in.

2095
01:38:21,013 --> 01:38:24,173
Speaker 3: Matt the mechanic from Exil Autos and Fakatan. He's got

2096
01:38:24,173 --> 01:38:27,572
Speaker 3: thirty eight years experience as a mechanic in the automotive industry.

2097
01:38:27,612 --> 01:38:30,093
Speaker 3: He's worked for pretty much every franchise brand you can

2098
01:38:30,093 --> 01:38:33,293
Speaker 3: think of, from Japanese through to the Europeans. And he

2099
01:38:33,412 --> 01:38:36,293
Speaker 3: joins us once again to answer your questions if you've

2100
01:38:36,293 --> 01:38:37,973
Speaker 3: got a problem with your motor. He's the man to

2101
01:38:38,053 --> 01:38:40,093
Speaker 3: chat to. Matt. Very good afternoon to you.

2102
01:38:41,053 --> 01:38:44,412
Speaker 7: Good afternoon, matt En Tyler. How are you?

2103
01:38:44,492 --> 01:38:46,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, very good. Nice to have you Beck. So let's

2104
01:38:46,333 --> 01:38:48,612
Speaker 3: just start. Let's just start with a quick chat about

2105
01:38:48,732 --> 01:38:52,972
Speaker 3: warrant of fitness rules and regulations and the things people

2106
01:38:53,013 --> 01:38:54,333
Speaker 3: don't always understand.

2107
01:38:55,372 --> 01:38:57,973
Speaker 27: Okay, well that's I think that's how this sort of

2108
01:38:58,333 --> 01:39:01,052
Speaker 27: semen got set off. I replied to a call about

2109
01:39:01,093 --> 01:39:04,572
Speaker 27: a year ago with a warrant question and it was

2110
01:39:04,652 --> 01:39:07,853
Speaker 27: quite interesting and popular at the time. Warrants of fitness

2111
01:39:07,893 --> 01:39:10,612
Speaker 27: Like I'm a authorized vehic inspector, so I'm a mechanic

2112
01:39:10,612 --> 01:39:12,612
Speaker 27: and we do warrants as part of our job. There's

2113
01:39:12,612 --> 01:39:15,572
Speaker 27: a lot of misconceptions and a lot of myths around warrants,

2114
01:39:15,572 --> 01:39:19,133
Speaker 27: and I'll cover one of them. The first important one

2115
01:39:19,253 --> 01:39:21,852
Speaker 27: is I've got a wron on my car. I'm all good,

2116
01:39:22,133 --> 01:39:24,532
Speaker 27: and you might be, but you might not be. A

2117
01:39:24,652 --> 01:39:27,732
Speaker 27: warrant of fitness is a visual inspection. It's a safety cheap,

2118
01:39:27,732 --> 01:39:30,213
Speaker 27: but it's only a visual inspection. We can only check

2119
01:39:30,253 --> 01:39:34,013
Speaker 27: what we can visually see without removing any parts. Now,

2120
01:39:34,053 --> 01:39:36,172
Speaker 27: we are allowed to remove parts, but we're not required

2121
01:39:36,173 --> 01:39:36,972
Speaker 27: to remove any parts.

2122
01:39:37,053 --> 01:39:38,532
Speaker 7: Right, things wear out.

2123
01:39:38,853 --> 01:39:43,213
Speaker 27: Tires wear out, bulbs, blow breaks wear out. I'll give

2124
01:39:43,213 --> 01:39:45,572
Speaker 27: you an example. The legal minimum for tire tread is

2125
01:39:45,612 --> 01:39:48,412
Speaker 27: one point five millimeters, right, that's half a match head.

2126
01:39:49,452 --> 01:39:51,812
Speaker 27: So if you've got four tires that are half a

2127
01:39:51,853 --> 01:39:54,692
Speaker 27: match head deep, then I can't fail that.

2128
01:39:54,692 --> 01:39:55,652
Speaker 7: I've got to give you a warrant.

2129
01:39:55,652 --> 01:39:58,812
Speaker 27: Most warrants now for twelve months, So you get a

2130
01:39:58,812 --> 01:40:03,333
Speaker 27: twelve months warrant on really minimum tire tread depth. Now,

2131
01:40:03,333 --> 01:40:05,452
Speaker 27: they might last you a week, they might last your

2132
01:40:05,492 --> 01:40:08,692
Speaker 27: six months, depending on how many cars you do. On

2133
01:40:08,812 --> 01:40:10,852
Speaker 27: the back of your check sheet, and not many people

2134
01:40:10,893 --> 01:40:12,253
Speaker 27: read this on the back of the check sheet that

2135
01:40:12,333 --> 01:40:15,892
Speaker 27: says it is the driver's responsibility to maintain the vehicle

2136
01:40:15,973 --> 01:40:18,893
Speaker 27: up to warrant standards. Right, it's not the owner's responsibility,

2137
01:40:18,893 --> 01:40:23,213
Speaker 27: it's not your mum's responsibility, it's the driver's responsibility. Now

2138
01:40:23,253 --> 01:40:25,812
Speaker 27: that has implications. If you've got four ball tires and

2139
01:40:25,853 --> 01:40:28,173
Speaker 27: you have an accident, you run into somebody's three hundred

2140
01:40:28,213 --> 01:40:30,893
Speaker 27: thousand dollars Bentley, your insurance company is going to have

2141
01:40:30,893 --> 01:40:32,532
Speaker 27: look at your car and if they find you had

2142
01:40:32,572 --> 01:40:35,053
Speaker 27: four ball tires on it, they're going to say to

2143
01:40:35,053 --> 01:40:36,652
Speaker 27: you and no, we're not going to pay that.

2144
01:40:36,652 --> 01:40:38,293
Speaker 3: That is good to know. I don't know that.

2145
01:40:40,652 --> 01:40:42,852
Speaker 7: Just because you've got a warrant doesn't mean you've got

2146
01:40:42,853 --> 01:40:43,732
Speaker 7: a warrantable car.

2147
01:40:44,013 --> 01:40:46,772
Speaker 2: So is there ever a situation where a police officer

2148
01:40:46,812 --> 01:40:49,812
Speaker 2: will pull you over and look at your car and

2149
01:40:49,853 --> 01:40:52,892
Speaker 2: even though you've got a warrant go, you know, can

2150
01:40:52,893 --> 01:40:55,173
Speaker 2: you be ticketed driving around with a car that's got

2151
01:40:55,213 --> 01:40:56,692
Speaker 2: a warrant but it has things wrong with it?

2152
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Speaker 27: Yeah, you're driving an unwarrantable car, right, whether you've got

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01:41:01,572 --> 01:41:03,692
Speaker 27: a warrant or not. And the police know they can

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01:41:03,772 --> 01:41:06,013
Speaker 27: look at look your registration number. It while they're following you,

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01:41:06,013 --> 01:41:07,852
Speaker 27: they know you've got a current warrant in the current rego,

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01:41:07,933 --> 01:41:10,652
Speaker 27: they know you're name and address, who the registered owner is.

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01:41:11,093 --> 01:41:12,852
Speaker 27: But if they pull you up and you've got lights

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01:41:12,893 --> 01:41:14,452
Speaker 27: not working, they probably pull you up. If your break

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01:41:14,492 --> 01:41:16,572
Speaker 27: lights aren't working, yeah, and they can say you look

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01:41:16,572 --> 01:41:18,253
Speaker 27: your break lights out, go and.

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01:41:18,173 --> 01:41:18,732
Speaker 7: Get it fixed.

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01:41:18,732 --> 01:41:22,333
Speaker 27: But if you've got loaded suspension that's not complying, or

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01:41:22,372 --> 01:41:25,093
Speaker 27: you've got tires with steel poking out of them, they

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01:41:25,093 --> 01:41:27,173
Speaker 27: can stop you from driving that car on the spot and.

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Speaker 7: Have a toad.

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01:41:27,812 --> 01:41:28,292
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:41:28,572 --> 01:41:30,293
Speaker 7: Very green stickers and red stickers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that is great information for most of us to know. Now,

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01:41:33,412 --> 01:41:35,732
Speaker 3: if you've got a question for Matt, now's your opportunity. Oh,

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01:41:35,772 --> 01:41:37,852
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to

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01:41:37,893 --> 01:41:39,732
Speaker 3: call if you want to text through. You more than welcome.

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01:41:39,812 --> 01:41:44,212
Speaker 3: Nine to nine to two. But let's go to the phones. Simon,

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01:41:44,253 --> 01:41:44,732
Speaker 3: how are you?

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Speaker 23: Yeah? Good aftering guys. Hey, look, I've got a twenty

2175
01:41:49,333 --> 01:41:52,972
Speaker 23: thirteen trailer Canray, which I love, but it's real noisy

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01:41:53,013 --> 01:41:55,333
Speaker 23: on startup. I actually had an earlier model, the same

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01:41:55,372 --> 01:41:57,692
Speaker 23: model the same year, which I managed to crash and

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01:41:57,772 --> 01:42:00,892
Speaker 23: right off. So and they had exactly the same noisy startup.

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01:42:01,973 --> 01:42:04,612
Speaker 23: Now Trayder kindly did a fix on that for free.

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01:42:04,652 --> 01:42:07,812
Speaker 23: They replace the cam chains enginer. So my questions are,

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01:42:07,893 --> 01:42:10,372
Speaker 23: first of all, is this a common issue with two

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01:42:10,372 --> 01:42:12,772
Speaker 23: thousand and thirteen cameras, and if so, it is to

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01:42:13,173 --> 01:42:16,173
Speaker 23: labels to continue to fix these under their freebie.

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01:42:16,853 --> 01:42:18,212
Speaker 7: Can you tell me what mote isn't.

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01:42:18,053 --> 01:42:22,772
Speaker 23: It to two point four? I can pop the herd.

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01:42:22,612 --> 01:42:26,932
Speaker 2: If you want, Yeah, pop the herd. Hell will take.

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01:42:28,013 --> 01:42:32,493
Speaker 7: Three five if e or five. These z field.

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01:42:33,732 --> 01:42:35,852
Speaker 23: Have a sticker on the on the on the cam

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01:42:35,933 --> 01:42:38,093
Speaker 23: chagn cover one on the I wouldn't.

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01:42:37,732 --> 01:42:39,852
Speaker 7: Imagine it's got a cam change. I wouldn't imagine it's

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01:42:39,853 --> 01:42:41,293
Speaker 7: got a cam chain. It should have a cam belt.

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01:42:42,732 --> 01:42:50,372
Speaker 3: Okay, let's a all right, yeah, all right, you've popped

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01:42:50,412 --> 01:42:52,012
Speaker 3: that bonnet, Simon you eh and we look.

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01:42:53,692 --> 01:42:53,973
Speaker 7: All right?

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01:42:54,013 --> 01:42:55,652
Speaker 3: Well last Simon hold it. I just hold there, Matt,

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01:42:55,692 --> 01:42:56,372
Speaker 3: he's going to come back.

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01:42:56,612 --> 01:42:59,173
Speaker 23: There's nothing. Yeah, no, there's school guys. There's nothing on

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01:42:59,173 --> 01:43:01,052
Speaker 23: the motor to identify it. But there a diamond doesn't

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01:43:01,093 --> 01:43:02,972
Speaker 23: like they're they're all over the roads. The most common

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01:43:03,053 --> 01:43:08,732
Speaker 23: Zealand assembled when zilling you two thousand and thirteen point five.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so it won't be a cam chain, it'll be

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01:43:11,612 --> 01:43:12,293
Speaker 7: a cam belt.

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01:43:13,492 --> 01:43:14,333
Speaker 23: That'll be a cam belt.

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01:43:14,372 --> 01:43:14,612
Speaker 7: Yeah.

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01:43:14,973 --> 01:43:17,333
Speaker 23: So that so that noise on startup when it's cold,

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01:43:17,412 --> 01:43:19,372
Speaker 23: and if you leave it sitting for a few days,

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01:43:19,372 --> 01:43:21,933
Speaker 23: it's noisier. If it's warm, it's quiet as it's just

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01:43:21,973 --> 01:43:22,972
Speaker 23: one startup when it's cold.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I just want to determine it's a belt and

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01:43:25,492 --> 01:43:29,492
Speaker 7: not a chain. Yeah, I know. I don't think it'll

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01:43:29,492 --> 01:43:30,612
Speaker 7: be a cam chain. I think it to be a

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01:43:30,612 --> 01:43:31,132
Speaker 7: cam belt.

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01:43:32,412 --> 01:43:36,173
Speaker 23: Okay, So if Toyda, like I had exactly the same model,

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01:43:36,213 --> 01:43:39,492
Speaker 23: which I said, as I've managed to write off, Tyda

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01:43:39,652 --> 01:43:41,652
Speaker 23: did a free fix on that and they put a

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01:43:41,692 --> 01:43:44,093
Speaker 23: they put a new tension and it's the noise away.

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01:43:44,692 --> 01:43:46,612
Speaker 23: Would be your expectation. You could go back to them

2218
01:43:46,612 --> 01:43:49,692
Speaker 23: and say, hey, look you did one, could you do another?

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01:43:49,812 --> 01:43:52,333
Speaker 23: Or is it kind of a window that age understanding?

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01:43:52,612 --> 01:43:54,452
Speaker 7: Yeah? Probably probably not at that age. They will do it.

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01:43:54,572 --> 01:43:57,412
Speaker 27: They will do an out of warranty consideration, but maybe

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01:43:57,732 --> 01:43:59,412
Speaker 27: at a five year old vehicle or a six year

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01:43:59,452 --> 01:44:02,772
Speaker 27: old vehicle something like that, but probably not a twenty thirteen.

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01:44:02,812 --> 01:44:07,053
Speaker 27: Now it's it's twenty you know, it's fifteen years old

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01:44:07,053 --> 01:44:08,492
Speaker 27: on it, so.

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01:44:08,652 --> 01:44:10,692
Speaker 23: Sure, yes, one probably wouldn't get it done if I

2227
01:44:10,732 --> 01:44:13,253
Speaker 23: continue to if I continue to run it when it's

2228
01:44:13,293 --> 01:44:16,013
Speaker 23: rightly on cold startup, is it la to do damage?

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01:44:17,893 --> 01:44:18,253
Speaker 7: Oh? Mate?

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01:44:18,293 --> 01:44:19,692
Speaker 27: Without hearing it, I can't say that. But if it's

2231
01:44:19,812 --> 01:44:21,333
Speaker 27: if it's a cam belt, I'd just like to know

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01:44:21,412 --> 01:44:22,692
Speaker 27: what engine it is. If you can tell what the

2233
01:44:22,692 --> 01:44:26,732
Speaker 27: engine is, if you can even text tell what the engineers,

2234
01:44:26,133 --> 01:44:28,972
Speaker 27: you can probably adjust the belt.

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01:44:29,253 --> 01:44:31,133
Speaker 2: Simon, you go and you go and see if you

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01:44:31,133 --> 01:44:32,492
Speaker 2: can find out what the engine that is and then

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01:44:32,532 --> 01:44:35,532
Speaker 2: text it in and then then we'll do we'll be

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01:44:35,572 --> 01:44:37,612
Speaker 2: on the plate and then we'll give that information to

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01:44:37,692 --> 01:44:39,452
Speaker 2: Matt or us. We'll won't be able to get to

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Speaker 2: all of our callers coming through a lot of texts

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01:44:42,053 --> 01:44:43,333
Speaker 2: coming through and callers, and we want to get to

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01:44:43,333 --> 01:44:43,892
Speaker 2: everyone if we.

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01:44:43,812 --> 01:44:46,053
Speaker 3: Can, absolutely so. O eight one hundred and eighty ten

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01:44:46,093 --> 01:44:48,333
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call if you've got a

2245
01:44:48,333 --> 01:44:50,452
Speaker 3: problem with your car. Matt is the man to chat

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01:44:50,492 --> 01:44:52,532
Speaker 3: to and pays to get in right now. If you

2247
01:44:52,532 --> 01:44:55,132
Speaker 3: can't get through, keep trying, because it's always a popular segment.

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01:44:55,412 --> 01:44:56,972
Speaker 3: It is twenty wonder four.

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01:44:58,253 --> 01:45:01,732
Speaker 4: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 4: everything in between.

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01:45:03,253 --> 01:45:04,333
Speaker 5: Matt and Taylor.

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01:45:04,173 --> 01:45:07,772
Speaker 1: Afternoons with the Volvo xc N eighty attention to detail

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01:45:07,853 --> 01:45:09,732
Speaker 1: and it can be flintic comfort news talks.

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01:45:09,732 --> 01:45:12,532
Speaker 3: They'd be s eighteen to four. We're joined by Matt Bullen.

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Speaker 3: He is a mechanic with thirty eight years experience past

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01:45:15,093 --> 01:45:17,452
Speaker 3: part of our Ask the Experts series I one hundred

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01:45:17,452 --> 01:45:20,092
Speaker 3: and eighteen eighty. If you've got a question for Matt's ellen,

2258
01:45:20,652 --> 01:45:21,772
Speaker 3: you've got a question for Matt.

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01:45:22,812 --> 01:45:25,133
Speaker 28: Yeah, Hi, guys, I just happened to be talking about

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01:45:25,133 --> 01:45:27,933
Speaker 28: this today. Actually a bit warren of finasis. If you

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01:45:28,013 --> 01:45:31,492
Speaker 28: go and get a war on a Finnis and you fail,

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01:45:32,133 --> 01:45:34,652
Speaker 28: you've got the twenty eight days to get it, Otherwise

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01:45:34,692 --> 01:45:37,093
Speaker 28: that you're charged again. And I know that's a charging thing.

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01:45:41,213 --> 01:45:43,132
Speaker 28: Is there actually a grace period?

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01:45:43,253 --> 01:45:43,492
Speaker 24: You know?

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01:45:43,732 --> 01:45:45,732
Speaker 28: If I happened to drive it out of the testy

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01:45:45,812 --> 01:45:48,452
Speaker 28: sat and go home and have Tripico pulls me over

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01:45:48,532 --> 01:45:52,973
Speaker 28: or policeman pulled them over, is he with is it

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01:45:53,053 --> 01:45:54,452
Speaker 28: right to give me a ticket or not?

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01:45:57,933 --> 01:45:59,852
Speaker 7: Yep? Sorry you were breaking up here bit.

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01:46:00,133 --> 01:46:01,772
Speaker 2: So basically was saying that if you if you get

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01:46:01,772 --> 01:46:04,133
Speaker 2: the twenty eight day grace period, you fail to warn

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01:46:04,133 --> 01:46:06,412
Speaker 2: a fitness and they give you twenty eight days to

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01:46:06,452 --> 01:46:08,572
Speaker 2: get the thing fixed. If you pull over a by

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01:46:08,893 --> 01:46:12,133
Speaker 2: police in that time and they spot something that's not

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01:46:12,853 --> 01:46:14,652
Speaker 2: you know, up to warrant for the standard, can they

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01:46:14,732 --> 01:46:16,053
Speaker 2: charge you or is the fact that you're in.

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01:46:18,013 --> 01:46:20,572
Speaker 27: No, there's no, there's no such thing as a grace period.

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01:46:21,053 --> 01:46:23,812
Speaker 27: They can't charge you another fee until twenty eight days.

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01:46:23,853 --> 01:46:25,093
Speaker 27: So if you take it back tomorrow you get a

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01:46:25,093 --> 01:46:29,173
Speaker 27: free reinspection. But if the only reason you're allowed to

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01:46:29,213 --> 01:46:32,372
Speaker 27: drive your vehicle at that point is to to get

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01:46:32,412 --> 01:46:34,333
Speaker 27: a warrant, so you can't go to the supermarket on

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01:46:34,333 --> 01:46:36,013
Speaker 27: your way home, you can take it home and then

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01:46:36,013 --> 01:46:38,013
Speaker 27: you can take it back to get work. Wow, Or

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01:46:38,013 --> 01:46:39,732
Speaker 27: you can take it back for the recheck if you

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01:46:39,732 --> 01:46:43,012
Speaker 27: get pulled up in that time. Yeah, they are quite rightly,

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01:46:43,053 --> 01:46:43,732
Speaker 27: we'll give you a ticket.

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01:46:44,013 --> 01:46:44,573
Speaker 7: Wells.

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01:46:45,213 --> 01:46:48,572
Speaker 27: Most police will say, look, you get your warrant within

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01:46:48,772 --> 01:46:50,372
Speaker 27: seven days or something, bring it in and we'll get

2292
01:46:50,452 --> 01:46:53,173
Speaker 27: rid of the ticket. But the only reason you can

2293
01:46:53,213 --> 01:46:54,892
Speaker 27: drive a car without a warrant is for the sole

2294
01:46:54,933 --> 01:46:56,092
Speaker 27: purpose of getting a warrant.

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01:46:56,293 --> 01:46:58,412
Speaker 2: Wow, that's interesting. I've always just taken that back in

2296
01:46:58,452 --> 01:47:00,692
Speaker 2: the day. Is just grace period.

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01:47:01,492 --> 01:47:02,453
Speaker 3: I've got a month.

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01:47:02,853 --> 01:47:05,333
Speaker 27: Take your car, and take your car and before the

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01:47:05,372 --> 01:47:08,293
Speaker 27: warrant expires, because we can post date them up to

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01:47:08,372 --> 01:47:10,372
Speaker 27: fourteen days, so you don't lose any time. If we

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01:47:10,412 --> 01:47:12,492
Speaker 27: take it in a week early, we'll post date it

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01:47:12,532 --> 01:47:15,852
Speaker 27: the seven days. But if you fail, then you've still

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01:47:15,853 --> 01:47:17,293
Speaker 27: got a current warrant on your One's going.

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01:47:17,333 --> 01:47:21,093
Speaker 3: Very good, so seal matters. Standing by for your question.

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01:47:23,412 --> 01:47:26,812
Speaker 29: So I drove a ks portage where the window wiper

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01:47:27,173 --> 01:47:31,532
Speaker 29: fluid is leaking, and I just wanted to know is

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01:47:31,532 --> 01:47:33,572
Speaker 29: it an easy fact? Is there a product I can

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01:47:33,692 --> 01:47:35,772
Speaker 29: use to seal it? Or am I going to have

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01:47:35,893 --> 01:47:39,013
Speaker 29: to take the whole thing with specialist to effects.

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01:47:39,572 --> 01:47:41,572
Speaker 7: Are you're talking about the wip the washer.

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01:47:41,412 --> 01:47:45,652
Speaker 27: Fluid, Yeah, yeah, yep, the water yeah?

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01:47:45,652 --> 01:47:49,892
Speaker 7: Okay, how much is it leaking? How much? Like does

2313
01:47:49,893 --> 01:47:52,412
Speaker 7: it empty it completely? Yeah?

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01:47:52,492 --> 01:47:53,812
Speaker 29: It does it completely?

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01:47:54,612 --> 01:47:56,852
Speaker 27: Okay, So at the bottom of the bottle there's a

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01:47:56,853 --> 01:47:58,812
Speaker 27: little pump or a rubber seal. That rubber seal may

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01:47:58,812 --> 01:48:00,652
Speaker 27: be leaking or the little pump might have come out.

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01:48:01,333 --> 01:48:03,372
Speaker 27: It's probably not something you're going to do at home.

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01:48:03,412 --> 01:48:05,293
Speaker 27: It's it's really going to need to go up on oyst.

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01:48:06,213 --> 01:48:07,732
Speaker 27: But no, there's nothing you can put in it to

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01:48:07,772 --> 01:48:10,972
Speaker 27: seal it. That's all either got a broken potal all

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01:48:11,013 --> 01:48:11,532
Speaker 27: the pull.

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01:48:11,452 --> 01:48:12,173
Speaker 7: The seals leaking.

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Speaker 29: Okay, I'll take it in to get No, it's okay,

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Speaker 29: thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: Right, all right, good on you, Thanks to seal. Thanks

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01:48:21,412 --> 01:48:23,452
Speaker 3: for your cal Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty

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01:48:23,492 --> 01:48:24,892
Speaker 3: is the number to call if you've got a question

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01:48:24,973 --> 01:48:27,452
Speaker 3: for met Azaia. Hew are you soft tone?

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01:48:28,093 --> 01:48:29,773
Speaker 21: Hey, I'm good about you.

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01:48:29,612 --> 01:48:31,412
Speaker 3: Very good. Made his standing by for your question.

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01:48:32,293 --> 01:48:36,492
Speaker 16: Okay, great. So I've got a well, I got hit

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01:48:36,572 --> 01:48:41,092
Speaker 16: at a parking lot very lightly, but it popped the breath.

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01:48:41,293 --> 01:48:45,892
Speaker 16: It popped my rear tail light slightly. It's not it's

2335
01:48:45,893 --> 01:48:48,973
Speaker 16: not broken, it's not cracked, but like it's out of

2336
01:48:49,732 --> 01:48:52,772
Speaker 16: the clip, like in the bracket came loose, so it's

2337
01:48:52,812 --> 01:48:57,213
Speaker 16: popping out slightly wobbley. I you know, looking for the

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01:48:57,253 --> 01:48:59,892
Speaker 16: tailight's kind of expensive. I'm trying to look sick in hand.

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01:48:59,933 --> 01:49:03,253
Speaker 16: But and I've still got months left, like near like

2340
01:49:03,333 --> 01:49:05,052
Speaker 16: the second half of the year to get my wob

2341
01:49:05,173 --> 01:49:07,372
Speaker 16: So I was wondering gonna couple me up on it.

2342
01:49:07,893 --> 01:49:08,852
Speaker 5: It worked, so.

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01:49:10,692 --> 01:49:12,572
Speaker 7: It may leak, it may leak rain order in.

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01:49:13,412 --> 01:49:15,013
Speaker 27: But as long as all the lights are working and

2345
01:49:15,053 --> 01:49:18,612
Speaker 27: it's not broken, the lens aren't broken, and it's roughly

2346
01:49:18,652 --> 01:49:20,372
Speaker 27: in the right place, then it shouldn't be a reason

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01:49:20,412 --> 01:49:25,372
Speaker 27: to be ticketed. What sort of vehicle is it.

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01:49:25,372 --> 01:49:30,572
Speaker 16: It's a Corolla Axio like twenty extent.

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01:49:31,093 --> 01:49:32,692
Speaker 27: So so if you look in the boot in the

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01:49:32,732 --> 01:49:35,133
Speaker 27: back where it's where it's attached, there should be a

2351
01:49:35,173 --> 01:49:36,612
Speaker 27: couple of ten mil nuts and you should be able

2352
01:49:36,612 --> 01:49:38,253
Speaker 27: to take those nuts off and pull it right out,

2353
01:49:38,333 --> 01:49:40,133
Speaker 27: and then you should be able to see where the

2354
01:49:40,133 --> 01:49:41,973
Speaker 27: clips go. The clips might have popped out of the

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01:49:42,053 --> 01:49:44,932
Speaker 27: light unit itself.

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01:49:45,293 --> 01:49:47,852
Speaker 16: It's not broken, No, no, it's not broken.

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01:49:48,772 --> 01:49:48,972
Speaker 7: Yeah.

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01:49:49,013 --> 01:49:50,933
Speaker 27: It should be a simple folks, just take take the

2359
01:49:51,133 --> 01:49:53,053
Speaker 27: nuts off from the back, pull it right out and

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01:49:53,053 --> 01:49:53,812
Speaker 27: have it look at it.

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01:49:53,933 --> 01:49:55,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, good luck with that as am.

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01:49:56,213 --> 01:50:02,772
Speaker 3: Some great teachts coming through this one, says Matt. I've

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01:50:02,772 --> 01:50:07,093
Speaker 3: got a BMW in EM three twenty sixteen to twenty

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Speaker 3: nineteen with an S fifty five engine. I think that

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01:50:10,412 --> 01:50:14,652
Speaker 3: is that has a common crank hub failure. I've been

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Speaker 3: told that was a well known issue. Do us as

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01:50:20,612 --> 01:50:24,053
Speaker 3: consumers have any rights to that well known issue with

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01:50:24,093 --> 01:50:25,452
Speaker 3: the BMW M three.

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Speaker 27: If you bought a new in New Zealand, you would,

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01:50:30,253 --> 01:50:32,293
Speaker 27: but probably not if it's a second hand vehicle.

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01:50:32,452 --> 01:50:34,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, No, that's an easy one.

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01:50:34,253 --> 01:50:36,732
Speaker 7: It's it's not what I've heard of, but probably not.

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01:50:37,053 --> 01:50:38,253
Speaker 3: Hey, Matt's is a sexter.

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01:50:38,333 --> 01:50:41,892
Speaker 2: Why does my hold in three eight blow water out

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01:50:41,973 --> 01:50:46,293
Speaker 2: the header tank? It never overheats, that's.

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01:50:46,133 --> 01:50:52,772
Speaker 27: What it can pressurizing. So it's a head gasket. Try

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01:50:53,133 --> 01:50:57,133
Speaker 27: the radiator cap might need any radiator cap. So the

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01:50:57,173 --> 01:50:59,372
Speaker 27: radiata CAP's got a pressure valve and a suction valve,

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01:50:59,412 --> 01:51:01,372
Speaker 27: and both valves have to work. It'll push water out.

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01:51:01,412 --> 01:51:03,053
Speaker 27: If it doesn't work, probably it won't pull the water

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01:51:03,053 --> 01:51:08,133
Speaker 27: back in. Yeah, if it's not overheating, I'd be looking

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01:51:08,173 --> 01:51:09,253
Speaker 27: at the radio to keep first.

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01:51:09,572 --> 01:51:11,133
Speaker 2: You go, okay, Carle, I had that help.

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01:51:11,253 --> 01:51:13,772
Speaker 3: Yep, very good, Tony, you're on with Matt.

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01:51:15,412 --> 01:51:18,372
Speaker 13: You're gonna Mat and gentlemen, look quick question. Warrants of

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01:51:18,412 --> 01:51:22,652
Speaker 13: fitness is certificates. What is the main difference we have

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01:51:22,732 --> 01:51:25,173
Speaker 13: shape your charf past the world of fitness, but you're

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01:51:25,173 --> 01:51:27,973
Speaker 13: really you actually have to have a certificate fitness. What

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01:51:28,093 --> 01:51:30,852
Speaker 13: would be the difference in a file for both those?

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01:51:30,893 --> 01:51:33,813
Speaker 13: In other words, what are the aspects of the certificate

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01:51:33,973 --> 01:51:37,532
Speaker 13: fitness and the difference between that and the world as

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01:51:37,532 --> 01:51:39,172
Speaker 13: far as the checks and everything goes.

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01:51:38,933 --> 01:51:43,973
Speaker 7: Through in regard to what type of vehicle.

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01:51:48,213 --> 01:51:50,973
Speaker 13: Ride here, vehicle right, I just gotta have a certificate.

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01:51:50,572 --> 01:51:54,692
Speaker 27: Fitness, okay, yep, okay, that's the same as a rental

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01:51:55,772 --> 01:51:59,652
Speaker 27: between the two wild h Yeah.

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01:51:59,652 --> 01:52:02,893
Speaker 2: So what is the difference between fitness and a certificate fitness?

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01:52:03,412 --> 01:52:06,492
Speaker 7: I don't know. We don't do stifficatets a fitness. That's

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Speaker 7: something that I need the testing station will do.

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01:52:10,173 --> 01:52:11,973
Speaker 27: The best way to check would be to have a

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01:52:11,973 --> 01:52:13,772
Speaker 27: look at two chick sheets and see if they're checking

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01:52:13,772 --> 01:52:14,572
Speaker 27: anything differently.

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01:52:15,293 --> 01:52:18,173
Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, no, very good.

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01:52:18,173 --> 01:52:20,932
Speaker 27: If you've got another card that's a normal's private card,

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01:52:21,013 --> 01:52:22,452
Speaker 27: just compare the two chick sheets.

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01:52:22,572 --> 01:52:24,732
Speaker 3: Yep, no, very good. Thank you very much, Tony. All

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01:52:24,772 --> 01:52:28,852
Speaker 3: the best with that. David's You've got a question for Matt.

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01:52:29,692 --> 01:52:31,213
Speaker 30: Yes, Hello, good after doon.

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01:52:31,253 --> 01:52:31,492
Speaker 8: Matt.

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01:52:31,853 --> 01:52:35,253
Speaker 30: A question. If I was to take my car and

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01:52:35,372 --> 01:52:38,852
Speaker 30: for a warrant a fortnight before the due date and

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01:52:38,933 --> 01:52:42,932
Speaker 30: I get rejected, does the twenty eight day period start

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01:52:43,013 --> 01:52:45,892
Speaker 30: from the date I got rejected or from the date

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01:52:45,933 --> 01:52:49,253
Speaker 30: that the warrant was due.

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01:52:48,652 --> 01:52:52,093
Speaker 27: From the date you had your inspection done. It's just

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01:52:52,173 --> 01:52:54,532
Speaker 27: the administration thing. It's just they don't charge you a

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01:52:54,532 --> 01:52:57,133
Speaker 27: new fee until the twenty eight days after the test you've.

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01:52:57,053 --> 01:53:01,173
Speaker 30: Had, So it's not actually from the date that the

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01:53:01,253 --> 01:53:05,053
Speaker 30: warrant was due because I've gone earlier. Say I've got

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01:53:05,053 --> 01:53:08,892
Speaker 30: a fortnighted early and I got rejected. So does the

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01:53:08,973 --> 01:53:11,772
Speaker 30: twenty eight day period to get it fixed run from

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01:53:11,812 --> 01:53:14,612
Speaker 30: the day you haven't rejected or from the date that

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01:53:14,732 --> 01:53:15,613
Speaker 30: the warrantfull.

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01:53:15,692 --> 01:53:18,572
Speaker 7: You do, right, that's from the first test your head.

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01:53:19,612 --> 01:53:20,932
Speaker 30: That's all right, thank you very much.

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01:53:22,412 --> 01:53:26,253
Speaker 3: Easy that one, all right, Dave your questions.

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01:53:25,612 --> 01:53:31,412
Speaker 31: Yeah, I've got a Jag two liters jag. I had

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01:53:31,492 --> 01:53:35,372
Speaker 31: a new battery fitted to it and now none of

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01:53:35,372 --> 01:53:40,293
Speaker 31: the doors will lock or unlock with the key.

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01:53:40,372 --> 01:53:46,852
Speaker 7: For how old is it? It's a twenty seventeen thirteen.

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01:53:49,253 --> 01:53:50,693
Speaker 7: I have had a reset.

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01:53:52,973 --> 01:53:53,612
Speaker 31: A reset.

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01:53:53,853 --> 01:53:55,253
Speaker 8: So is that expensive?

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01:53:56,213 --> 01:53:58,892
Speaker 27: I would need to it would need to go. Probably

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01:53:58,933 --> 01:54:00,333
Speaker 27: the best bit would be to go to an auto

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01:54:00,412 --> 01:54:02,532
Speaker 27: electrician and have a check with an auto electrician.

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01:54:03,692 --> 01:54:06,972
Speaker 31: Yeah, because and they can locate the problem, can.

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01:54:06,853 --> 01:54:10,333
Speaker 27: They They might be able to tell you the best

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01:54:10,333 --> 01:54:11,253
Speaker 27: place to start.

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01:54:13,492 --> 01:54:16,412
Speaker 3: All thess I know that you're worried about it being expensive,

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01:54:16,452 --> 01:54:18,012
Speaker 3: So we've got our fingers crossed for you. Mate.

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01:54:18,133 --> 01:54:20,412
Speaker 2: Just just go and say it. Go and go in

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01:54:20,452 --> 01:54:22,692
Speaker 2: and say I think we need a reset, and then

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01:54:22,692 --> 01:54:24,372
Speaker 2: that'll make them think you know what you're talking about?

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01:54:24,412 --> 01:54:26,812
Speaker 31: That the mate, So you need a new car?

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01:54:28,372 --> 01:54:30,133
Speaker 3: All the best, mate, Thank you very much. Right, Oh,

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01:54:30,173 --> 01:54:32,133
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to

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01:54:32,133 --> 01:54:34,173
Speaker 3: call if you've got a question for Matt. It is

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01:54:34,333 --> 01:54:35,012
Speaker 3: nine to four.

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01:54:36,013 --> 01:54:39,413
Speaker 4: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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01:54:39,733 --> 01:54:40,812
Speaker 4: everything in between.

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01:54:41,013 --> 01:54:44,892
Speaker 1: Matt and Taylor Afternoons with the Volvo XC ninety attention

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01:54:44,973 --> 01:54:45,933
Speaker 1: to detail.

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01:54:45,613 --> 01:54:49,733
Speaker 5: And a commitment to comfort. News dogs eNB on News.

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01:54:49,573 --> 01:54:52,972
Speaker 3: Talks NB Afternoon. It is six to four and we're

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01:54:53,013 --> 01:54:55,373
Speaker 3: joined by Matt Bullen and mechanic with thirty eight years

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01:54:55,533 --> 01:54:57,893
Speaker 3: experience to answer your questions.

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01:54:58,213 --> 01:55:00,733
Speaker 2: And you've got a question for Matt around your Honda Odyssey.

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01:55:01,973 --> 01:55:07,812
Speaker 17: Yes, hi, Matt, Hi, guys. As I said, I've got

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01:55:07,812 --> 01:55:12,012
Speaker 17: an old CE twenty nineteen two point four liter engine.

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01:55:13,173 --> 01:55:16,972
Speaker 17: I've noticed a problem which sort of becomes dangerous. It's

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01:55:17,013 --> 01:55:22,733
Speaker 17: going to delay in the acceleration pedal, so the car

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01:55:22,853 --> 01:55:27,653
Speaker 17: basically doesn't respond if you're in the intersection. Uh, and

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01:55:27,772 --> 01:55:30,653
Speaker 17: you want to pull or you want to take over

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01:55:30,653 --> 01:55:33,892
Speaker 17: a car on a passing lane, the car which sometimes

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01:55:33,933 --> 01:55:36,852
Speaker 17: doesn't respond to the pedal. It's like a delay, like

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01:55:36,933 --> 01:55:39,052
Speaker 17: a second or two. And I found it dangerous.

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Speaker 7: I feel like it. Does it feel like it's changing

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01:55:41,213 --> 01:55:44,012
Speaker 7: gears or does it feel like the engine is just sluggish?

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01:55:45,333 --> 01:55:49,413
Speaker 17: Yeah, it feels like the engine is sluggish. So so

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01:55:49,573 --> 01:55:52,533
Speaker 17: happen when I got another o DC, an older version,

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01:55:53,133 --> 01:55:58,253
Speaker 17: same size Mota and it's very responsive.

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01:55:58,693 --> 01:56:01,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, Ian, thank you very much. We've got about sixty seconds.

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01:56:01,293 --> 01:56:05,253
Speaker 27: Man, If you haven't got an engine light on the dish,

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01:56:06,693 --> 01:56:08,613
Speaker 27: or imagine it probably is an engine light, could be

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01:56:08,733 --> 01:56:12,053
Speaker 27: something like an airflow meter or a map sensor. You'll

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01:56:12,093 --> 01:56:13,733
Speaker 27: probably have to get it in and get it scanned

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01:56:13,893 --> 01:56:16,852
Speaker 27: and get somebody to test the onboard computer.

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01:56:17,173 --> 01:56:19,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, i'd say, and that's one that you want to

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01:56:19,533 --> 01:56:21,333
Speaker 2: take it because that's no good.

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01:56:21,453 --> 01:56:23,653
Speaker 7: If your mixed cars on the phone, I'd be rich.

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01:56:24,293 --> 01:56:26,733
Speaker 2: If you're leaving, you know, if you're losing power in

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01:56:26,733 --> 01:56:29,133
Speaker 2: the middle of an intersection, no good, no good, not

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01:56:29,213 --> 01:56:29,613
Speaker 2: a good.

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01:56:29,453 --> 01:56:32,133
Speaker 3: Place to be, right, Thank you very much. As always, Matt,

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01:56:32,173 --> 01:56:34,013
Speaker 3: A pleasure to have you on and we'll do it

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01:56:34,093 --> 01:56:35,493
Speaker 3: all again in about a month's time.

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01:56:36,453 --> 01:56:38,213
Speaker 7: Awesome, guys, Matte, did you fix your windows?

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01:56:38,373 --> 01:56:38,573
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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01:56:38,613 --> 01:56:40,653
Speaker 2: The hey that worked that you said, reset the windows

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01:56:40,733 --> 01:56:41,772
Speaker 2: and boom they're going.

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01:56:41,733 --> 01:56:42,413
Speaker 3: Best on the bizz.

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01:56:42,493 --> 01:56:43,133
Speaker 2: Thanks very much.

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01:56:43,573 --> 01:56:45,812
Speaker 3: All right, I'm going to say this, thanks Matt. We'll

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01:56:45,812 --> 01:56:48,493
Speaker 3: catch you again soon. As always, advice offered in the

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01:56:48,613 --> 01:56:50,573
Speaker 3: segment has done in good faith and should always be

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01:56:50,653 --> 01:56:53,733
Speaker 3: confirmed by a physical inspection of your vehicle.

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01:56:53,893 --> 01:56:55,493
Speaker 2: All right, thank you so much for your calls and

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01:56:55,573 --> 01:56:58,453
Speaker 2: texts today, and we'll see you tomorrow AVO for another

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01:56:58,613 --> 01:57:01,373
Speaker 2: edition of Matt and Tyler afternoons. Until then, give a

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01:57:01,453 --> 01:57:02,613
Speaker 2: taste of Kiwi see you then.

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