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Speaker 1: With me now as Gavin Gray UK corresponding, Hey, Gevin,

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Speaker 1: Hi there. What are the chances Putin turns up to

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Speaker 1: this meeting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to be I think, a very very

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Speaker 2: interesting forty eight hours or so before we reach the

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Speaker 2: Thursday meeting that's deadline now between Vladimir Putin and Vladimir Zelenski,

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Speaker 2: which we now know to be in hosted by Turkey

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Speaker 2: Regick Tibird. When the President says he's happy to host it.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting. I think that since President Trump's intervention that

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Speaker 2: he wanted this to take place, that it appears Ukraine

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Speaker 2: has dropped its demand for a cease fire before agreeing

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Speaker 2: to talks, because we're now hearing on X anyway, President

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Speaker 2: Zelenski has said that there is no point in prolonging

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Speaker 2: the killings, and I will be waiting for Putin in

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Speaker 2: Turkey on Thursday personally, And it is therefore the first

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Speaker 2: time we're going to see these face to face talks

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Speaker 2: between the pair. After all, we suspect that President Putin

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Speaker 2: will turn up. He's the one that's demanded the face

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Speaker 2: to face talks. But this talk of a thirty day

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Speaker 2: pause in fighting, which was due to start now has

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Speaker 2: gone very quiet with talk. We just don't know if

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Speaker 2: Russia is going to respect that or whether that's not

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Speaker 2: going to happen at all. So perhaps now Ukraine feeling

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Speaker 2: that it has to soften its stance demanding the ceasefire

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Speaker 2: before the talks, to first of all appease President Trump,

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Speaker 2: I guess, but also to get these talks underway. So

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Speaker 2: plenty riding on this after so many deaths and so

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Speaker 2: long at the country being ripped apart by Russian aggression.

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Speaker 1: Gevin, talk to me about there some charge that you know,

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Speaker 1: the chap who is the prime suspect of medal of mccann'sappearance.

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Speaker 1: What's this extra charge that he's facing now.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So, Christian Brukner is his name, and he was

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Speaker 2: due to be released from jail in September for existing

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Speaker 2: offenses that he was behind bars for. The forty eight

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Speaker 2: old was imprisoned in Germany for raping a seventy two

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Speaker 2: year old American tourist in Portugal back in two thousand

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Speaker 2: and five. You'll remember that three year old Madeline McCann

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Speaker 2: vanished for her holiday apartment in Portugal in two thousand

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Speaker 2: and seven. It's become obviously one of the highest profile

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Speaker 2: unsolved missing person cases in the world. So every single

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Speaker 2: move that Bruckner, because he's not being identified as a

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Speaker 2: suspect in her disappearance until twenty twenty, but every single

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Speaker 2: move that comes around about this man gains international attraction,

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Speaker 2: of course, and we're being told that he's due in

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Speaker 2: court shortly in the next few days, accused of insulting

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Speaker 2: a member of prison staff. Now the precise details of

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Speaker 2: this allegation have not been made public. It doesn't sound

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Speaker 2: terribly serious, but there is this sort of underplayer thought

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Speaker 2: that they're very keen to keep him in prison while

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Speaker 2: they continue to justify or continue to try to link

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Speaker 2: him to Madeline McCann's disappearance. Now we don't know that

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Speaker 2: for sure. The German authorities have not said that, but

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Speaker 2: that's certainly come out by lots of experts believing that

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Speaker 2: it'll be a big fear that when he releases release

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Speaker 2: from prison as a freeman, he would then skip Germany

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Speaker 2: and disappear altogether.

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Speaker 1: Kevin, the stuff that your Prime minister is announcing, this

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Speaker 1: crack down of migration, is this proving popular.

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Speaker 2: I think it will do, and the reason is quite

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Speaker 2: simply the figures, Heather. So obviously now in the UK

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Speaker 2: we've had a surge for Reform UK in the polls,

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Speaker 2: something that they have taken voters or support from both

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Speaker 2: the party of government Labor and the previous party of government,

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Speaker 2: the Conservatives. And one of the key things that Reform

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Speaker 2: says it will do is get net migration down to zero. Well,

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Speaker 2: last year net migration was seven hundred and twenty eight thousand,

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Speaker 2: the year before it was nine hundred and three thousand,

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Speaker 2: So just in two years more than one point six

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Speaker 2: million net migration into the UK. It's obviously very very

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Speaker 2: sore and sensitive subject, and it's not just illegal migration

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Speaker 2: that people want to crack down on. Hey, it's legal

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Speaker 2: migration as well. This government to outline in just under

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Speaker 2: an hour's time what new contribution it's going to make

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Speaker 2: to this debate. It is going to apparently extend the

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Speaker 2: amount of time that somebody has to be resident here

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Speaker 2: before they can apply from citizenship from five to ten years.

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Speaker 2: It's going to reduce the reliance on foreign workers, particularly

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Speaker 2: in the care sector, and there'll be new English language

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Speaker 2: requirements for every visa route, including adult dependence. That bit

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Speaker 2: is completely new that you also not just the main applicant,

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Speaker 2: but the family members as well should have a working

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Speaker 2: level of English. So these things the government promises will

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Speaker 2: get tightening up of net migration, but others are saying

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Speaker 2: these are just tinkering around the edges and frankly we

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Speaker 2: should leave the European Court of the Human Rights in

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Speaker 2: order to prevent people from putting out spurious appeals.

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Speaker 1: Gavin's always good to talk to you mate. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much. Gavin Gray, UK, corresponding.

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