WEBVTT - The Resident Builder podcast: October 6, 2024 0:00:06.855 --> 0:00:10.055 You're listening to the Resident Built Up podcast with Peter 0:00:10.135 --> 0:00:12.015 Wolfcamp from US Talks at b. 0:00:18.695 --> 0:00:18.855 Well. 0:00:18.935 --> 0:00:23.295 I woke up Sunday morning with no weight to hold. 0:00:23.415 --> 0:00:32.615 My hands didn't hurt, and the beer I had for 0:00:32.735 --> 0:00:37.615 breakfast wasn't bad, so I had one more for dessert. 0:00:43.095 --> 0:00:47.215 Then I fumbled through my closet for my clothes and 0:00:47.455 --> 0:00:57.055 found my cleanest dirty shirt, and I shaved my face 0:00:57.095 --> 0:01:01.015 and combed my hair and stumbled down the stairs to 0:01:01.175 --> 0:01:10.535 meet the day. I'd smoked my brain the night before, 0:01:10.775 --> 0:01:20.295 long cigarettes and songs that i'd been picking. But I 0:01:20.375 --> 0:01:24.335 lit my first and watched a small kid cussing that 0:01:24.535 --> 0:01:33.415 a can that he was kicking. Then I crossed the 0:01:33.455 --> 0:01:39.375 empty street caught the Sunday smount of someone frying chicken, 0:01:44.375 --> 0:01:48.815 and it took me back to something that I'd lost somehow, 0:01:49.335 --> 0:01:57.655 somewhere along the way on the Sunday morningside of. 0:02:00.895 --> 0:02:03.615 Wishing Lock, I was stolen. 0:02:06.975 --> 0:02:16.655 But there's something near a Sunday makes a buddy feeler, 0:02:19.175 --> 0:02:28.175 And there's nothing shortie have this ansome as the sound. 0:02:31.095 --> 0:02:33.935 On the sleeping sit side. 0:02:37.055 --> 0:02:39.615 Sunday moll coming down. 0:02:43.135 --> 0:02:45.615 Well, A very good morning, and welcome along to the 0:02:45.615 --> 0:02:48.815 Resident Builder on a Sunday slightly different song. This morning, 0:02:48.815 --> 0:02:51.295 I thought we should mark the passing of Chris Christofferson, 0:02:51.375 --> 0:02:54.695 who passed away I think about age eighty eight during 0:02:54.695 --> 0:02:56.855 the week, and at one stage I did entertain the 0:02:56.855 --> 0:02:59.695 thought of using that as an introduction song that was 0:02:59.735 --> 0:03:02.415 all about Sunday mornings. But I listened a little bit 0:03:02.415 --> 0:03:07.655 more closely to the lyrics, not maybe not radio good morning, Welcome, Welcome. 0:03:07.695 --> 0:03:11.655 My name's Pete wolf Camp, still with a slightly husky voice. 0:03:11.695 --> 0:03:15.535 My apologies for that. It's one of those weeks we 0:03:15.655 --> 0:03:18.335 sort of you know, got a battle on a little 0:03:18.375 --> 0:03:21.255 bit with feeling a bit off color. But anyway, we're 0:03:21.295 --> 0:03:25.055 back into it and enjoying the enjoying being with you 0:03:25.095 --> 0:03:28.095 this morning, so looking forward to talking all things building 0:03:28.175 --> 0:03:31.855 and construction. We are aware that there has been a 0:03:32.015 --> 0:03:38.175 reasonably sizable and certainly widely felt earthquake in Wellington this 0:03:38.215 --> 0:03:43.615 morning just after five or just at five eight. Geannette 0:03:43.615 --> 0:03:47.295 reports it now as a five point seven shake about 0:03:47.295 --> 0:03:50.895 twenty five kilometers to the west of Wellington, CBD, at 0:03:50.895 --> 0:03:54.415 a depth of around thirty kilometers, but certainly plenty of 0:03:54.415 --> 0:03:58.135 people in the region were awokened. The reporter that we 0:03:58.295 --> 0:04:00.415 listened to in our bulletin there at six o'clock was 0:04:00.415 --> 0:04:03.055 talking about the building that they were in, the flat 0:04:03.095 --> 0:04:07.255 that they were moving around reasonably significantly. Certainly, if there's 0:04:07.295 --> 0:04:09.735 any update on that, or if there is any report 0:04:09.775 --> 0:04:12.335 of damage, or are there are any notices about, you know, 0:04:12.335 --> 0:04:14.655 buildings that might be closed that sort of thing, we 0:04:14.695 --> 0:04:16.335 will bring that to you and we'll try and get 0:04:16.335 --> 0:04:19.735 in touch with someone in Wellington as well. And if 0:04:19.935 --> 0:04:22.895 you've got a question of a building nature, well the 0:04:22.895 --> 0:04:25.255 lines are open to you. We're going to talk all 0:04:25.295 --> 0:04:26.935 things building this morning. We have a couple of guests 0:04:26.975 --> 0:04:30.095 joining us as well. One thing that I wanted to 0:04:30.415 --> 0:04:34.055 focus on specifically today talking with some of our experts 0:04:34.055 --> 0:04:38.895 from Metro Performance Glass was around safety and I don't 0:04:38.895 --> 0:04:42.535 know if you've ever had that experience, either of I'll 0:04:42.535 --> 0:04:45.335 tell you a story about why we've got safety glass 0:04:45.375 --> 0:04:47.735 now and why it wasn't around the nineteen eighties when 0:04:47.775 --> 0:04:50.255 I was at school, and what happened as a result 0:04:50.255 --> 0:04:55.335 of that, but also increasingly as part of final inspections 0:04:55.335 --> 0:04:58.495 for buildings, you know, certain types of glazing has to 0:04:58.735 --> 0:05:01.775 specifically be safety glass. So what is it? Why do 0:05:01.855 --> 0:05:04.055 we have it? What are the general rules around it. 0:05:04.215 --> 0:05:07.175 We'll be talking about safety, glass and then the other thing. 0:05:07.255 --> 0:05:11.255 And I feel I'm in a kind of privilege, lucky. 0:05:11.455 --> 0:05:13.695 I don't know. I'm in a position where I spent 0:05:13.775 --> 0:05:17.615 a bit of time catching up with people who are 0:05:17.615 --> 0:05:21.335 doing new and exciting things. If not in the construction sector, 0:05:21.375 --> 0:05:24.175 then in sort of the waste area as it happens. 0:05:24.175 --> 0:05:28.095 But it construction contributes an enormous amount to the waste stream, 0:05:28.135 --> 0:05:31.375 so the too often overlap. And I was at the 0:05:32.735 --> 0:05:37.295 miter Ten Expo and for their exit or for their suppliers, 0:05:37.655 --> 0:05:39.535 and also that I went along to the gala a 0:05:39.575 --> 0:05:42.455 couple of months ago, which was delightful, and as well 0:05:42.455 --> 0:05:45.095 as tootling around the exhibition center, there was a gentleman 0:05:45.135 --> 0:05:48.055 there in a fetching kind of slightly pink maybe a 0:05:48.095 --> 0:05:51.375 Semoni colored suit that seemed to be cut out of 0:05:51.415 --> 0:05:53.775 a fabric that I'd never seen before. Turns out that, 0:05:53.815 --> 0:05:57.255 in fact, the fabric such that it was was completely 0:05:57.335 --> 0:06:00.775 out of recycled fabric. So if you take textiles in 0:06:00.855 --> 0:06:03.415 for recycling, this is the company that will do it, 0:06:03.495 --> 0:06:04.895 or one of the companies that will do it. So 0:06:05.295 --> 0:06:07.775 Tim from Retex is going to join me just after 0:06:07.815 --> 0:06:10.215 eight o'clock to talk about this, because it's all about 0:06:10.535 --> 0:06:14.455 waste minimization, right about diverting material from landfill. We all 0:06:14.495 --> 0:06:18.295 know in the sort of waste minimization field that it's 0:06:17.775 --> 0:06:22.015 reused then recycle. But we've also got to be practical 0:06:22.015 --> 0:06:25.735 and say not everything can be We can't. In some cases, 0:06:25.815 --> 0:06:30.015 it's hard to reduce materials that we use in business, 0:06:30.015 --> 0:06:33.815 whether that's construction or any other part of business. Sometimes 0:06:33.855 --> 0:06:36.175 it's not possible to reuse those items. So if you've 0:06:36.215 --> 0:06:38.375 got you know, in this case, I was talking to them, 0:06:38.375 --> 0:06:43.455 and they take, for example, old overalls from construction sites, 0:06:44.055 --> 0:06:47.695 old hybrid vests and those sorts of things, and then 0:06:47.735 --> 0:06:52.735 they will repurpose it into various products. And that's a 0:06:52.775 --> 0:06:55.775 way of ensuring that it doesn't simply go into waste. 0:06:55.775 --> 0:06:58.415 It doesn't go straight to landfill. It can be given 0:06:58.455 --> 0:07:02.815 another life by being recycled. Anyway, I found it fascinating 0:07:02.895 --> 0:07:05.815 and given that I kind of spent a bit of 0:07:05.815 --> 0:07:08.655 time in that space, I'm a board member of a 0:07:08.735 --> 0:07:12.535 trust that administers a recycling center or a resource recovery center. 0:07:13.255 --> 0:07:16.295 It is a very very important issue for us all 0:07:16.335 --> 0:07:18.975 to deal with to be just an aside for this 0:07:19.055 --> 0:07:20.935 and we've got some calls lined up and I'm looking 0:07:20.975 --> 0:07:23.575 forward to chatting with you. I was staggered that there 0:07:23.695 --> 0:07:27.895 wasn't more conversation around recycling and the closure of the 0:07:27.975 --> 0:07:32.575 paper recycling plant in Auckland that slated to happen before Christmas. 0:07:32.575 --> 0:07:36.055 There's many hundreds of jobs that are going to disappear 0:07:36.095 --> 0:07:39.895 from that factory. It is also the plant that processes, 0:07:40.255 --> 0:07:43.495 as I understand it, all of the paper recycling for Auckland. 0:07:44.175 --> 0:07:47.415 So given that you know, we've all hopefully in Auckland 0:07:47.415 --> 0:07:49.735 anyway got into the habit of putting our cardboard in 0:07:49.775 --> 0:07:52.895 our newspapers and now envelopes and anything over a four 0:07:53.695 --> 0:07:56.935 into our recycling bins, where's that material going to go? 0:07:57.055 --> 0:07:57.255 Now? 0:07:58.975 --> 0:08:01.175 I'm just staggered that it didn't get more reporting, to 0:08:01.215 --> 0:08:03.575 be blunt, oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. So 0:08:03.615 --> 0:08:06.095 if you've got a building project, if you've got something 0:08:06.135 --> 0:08:09.895 that underway, you're thinking about getting it underway, you're looking ahead. 0:08:10.255 --> 0:08:13.335 It's been a tough old weather week obviously in Dunedin. 0:08:13.455 --> 0:08:17.055 We've had fair share of wet weather here in Auckland 0:08:17.175 --> 0:08:20.935 again as well. Certainly duned, and my sympathies to those 0:08:20.975 --> 0:08:24.175 people who are impacted by that, either by a couple 0:08:24.175 --> 0:08:29.655 of reasonably significant landslides there or by the flooding. Good 0:08:29.695 --> 0:08:32.215 response to the flooding, you'd have to say, in terms 0:08:32.255 --> 0:08:36.615 of council response, government response, the Minister going straight there 0:08:36.655 --> 0:08:39.015 before the event actually happened, knowing that it was going 0:08:39.055 --> 0:08:43.015 to be reasonably severe, and there seems that though it 0:08:43.055 --> 0:08:45.655 has resulted in a number of houses being red stickered 0:08:45.815 --> 0:08:48.215 at this stage, which means that people are not able 0:08:48.255 --> 0:08:51.415 to go back into their houses after a weather event 0:08:51.615 --> 0:08:54.135 like that. So you certainly have my sympathy if you've 0:08:54.135 --> 0:08:57.575 been caught in that. Right, Let's talk all things building construction. 0:08:57.735 --> 0:08:59.855 If you've got a call, if you've got a question 0:09:00.055 --> 0:09:02.535 and you would like to call, the number is eight 0:09:02.655 --> 0:09:04.935 hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you'd like to text, 0:09:04.975 --> 0:09:06.975 and you're more than welcome to do that, it is 0:09:07.175 --> 0:09:10.295 nine to nine two from your mobile phone or ZEDBZB 0:09:10.775 --> 0:09:14.935 and by all means flip me an email if you wish. 0:09:15.015 --> 0:09:19.495 It's peaked at newstalksb dot co dot NZ. I mentioned 0:09:19.535 --> 0:09:21.655 on the program last week too that I'd had a 0:09:21.695 --> 0:09:25.655 particularly busy week the week before and that I hadn't 0:09:25.695 --> 0:09:28.855 got around to sending out some plans for olboxes. This 0:09:28.975 --> 0:09:31.215 has become a bit of a thing on the show. 0:09:31.255 --> 0:09:33.935 You might have noticed. I got asked in the supermarket 0:09:34.055 --> 0:09:36.615 yesterday how I'm going with the l boxes. So I 0:09:36.655 --> 0:09:40.055 did reply to a whole bunch of emails, actually only 0:09:40.135 --> 0:09:43.175 yesterday to be fair, and sent out a heap of 0:09:43.255 --> 0:09:47.455 plans to people that want albox details. So thank you 0:09:47.455 --> 0:09:50.015 for your patience and good luck making them. Please let 0:09:50.095 --> 0:09:52.615 me know if OL's happen to move in to their 0:09:52.655 --> 0:09:54.655 new house that you've made for them. Oh, eight hundred 0:09:54.775 --> 0:09:57.855 eighty ten eighty is the number to call. And if 0:09:57.895 --> 0:09:59.135 you want to give us a call and give us 0:09:59.135 --> 0:10:01.175 a bit of an update from Wellington, you're more than 0:10:01.175 --> 0:10:03.895 welcome to do that as well. It is sixteen minutes 0:10:04.015 --> 0:10:07.855 after six paul A, very good wanting to you you, 0:10:07.895 --> 0:10:09.215 good morning to you for people. 0:10:09.415 --> 0:10:13.135 And let's let's pray that there's nothing no damage down 0:10:13.135 --> 0:10:14.095 to Warrington. 0:10:14.095 --> 0:10:15.975 Certainly no reports at the stage. 0:10:16.615 --> 0:10:21.535 Yeah, that's great. I've got we've got a rental property 0:10:21.575 --> 0:10:25.135 and we we've got recommended a tiler to come and 0:10:25.175 --> 0:10:31.095 do some tiling tile of bathroom that flows into the 0:10:31.175 --> 0:10:36.855 kitchen right, and the tilt was a nightmare. He used 0:10:36.895 --> 0:10:43.095 the brand new kitchen sink as is mixing for mixing 0:10:43.215 --> 0:10:49.415 his grouse and whatnot, and instead of grouting the grout gaps, 0:10:50.095 --> 0:10:53.775 he ended up placing ground all over the tiles. So 0:10:53.895 --> 0:10:56.375 the tiles have been grouted as well as the ground 0:10:59.015 --> 0:11:05.215 and it's pretty dusty, awful, and to be honest, a 0:11:05.295 --> 0:11:07.975 paper guy don't want to see him back again. You know, 0:11:08.215 --> 0:11:11.295 just a nightmare. Can you imagine? I've got a click 0:11:11.375 --> 0:11:13.775 try and turn the sink back into a brand new 0:11:14.215 --> 0:11:19.495 kitchen sink which we've set set up. You know, we've 0:11:19.695 --> 0:11:22.815 we've done the line share of it. Now we've get 0:11:22.855 --> 0:11:26.135 some metal cleaner to clean the rest of it. But 0:11:26.215 --> 0:11:29.335 what a nightmare of a of an individual? 0:11:29.975 --> 0:11:33.695 Can I just ask? Because you know, I mean, I 0:11:33.735 --> 0:11:36.255 have these conversations with people a fair amount right where 0:11:36.375 --> 0:11:39.895 where they contract a trades person who turns out to 0:11:39.895 --> 0:11:46.335 be basically useless. Yeah, so you know, like, why did 0:11:46.375 --> 0:11:51.015 you choose that person? And did you get any sense 0:11:51.055 --> 0:11:54.375 that maybe they weren't up to the job before they started. 0:11:56.495 --> 0:11:59.015 I've got no sense whatsoever that he wasn't up to 0:11:59.055 --> 0:12:02.615 the job. He was an experienced tyler that knew what 0:12:02.655 --> 0:12:03.255 he was doing. 0:12:03.495 --> 0:12:04.895 But how did you get in touch with him? 0:12:04.895 --> 0:12:09.295 I'm just curious through a friend recommended by a friend, 0:12:10.175 --> 0:12:13.975 and they who've been to see the job yesterday and 0:12:14.255 --> 0:12:23.935 was absolutely mortified. The sink had about two or three centimeters. Yeah, 0:12:24.015 --> 0:12:24.895 we're talking a. 0:12:25.055 --> 0:12:27.775 Nightmare, you know, right, Yeah, okay, and. 0:12:27.615 --> 0:12:29.575 You can imagine why I just don't even want to 0:12:29.615 --> 0:12:32.975 go back on the site. And to be honest, the 0:12:33.055 --> 0:12:36.295 tiling job was so poorly done. I'm glad it's just 0:12:36.335 --> 0:12:39.255 a rental property. If it was my home and auto 0:12:40.455 --> 0:12:42.975 you rip the whole lot up and start again. 0:12:43.095 --> 0:12:45.295 Right, Okay, so we're too from here. 0:12:46.255 --> 0:12:50.255 What I'm my question for you? How do I clean 0:12:50.375 --> 0:12:51.575 those tiles? 0:12:52.695 --> 0:12:52.895 Right? 0:12:54.215 --> 0:12:57.615 Scenic product or do I use tubs or no? 0:12:57.615 --> 0:13:02.735 No, no, stay away from turps. Look, I would gosh, if 0:13:02.775 --> 0:13:05.095 there happens to be like a bag of the grouse 0:13:05.175 --> 0:13:07.735 or something like that left, or if you happen to 0:13:07.775 --> 0:13:10.095 see what there is, I would take that down to 0:13:10.215 --> 0:13:15.255 a tile shop, go tile Space for example, and just say, look, 0:13:15.295 --> 0:13:19.375 this is my situation. What's the recommended tile cleaner for this? 0:13:19.535 --> 0:13:22.455 And they will have very very specific products for that 0:13:23.575 --> 0:13:27.455 and use only products recommended by someone like tile space, 0:13:27.535 --> 0:13:31.215 you know, a quality tile store, and then go back 0:13:31.255 --> 0:13:36.295 and start doing the cleanup from there. You know, yeah, yeah, 0:13:36.335 --> 0:13:40.055 pretty much, pretty much. And the other thing I guess 0:13:40.095 --> 0:13:43.335 to be conscious of is that you want to make 0:13:43.375 --> 0:13:47.335 sure that they haven't grouted let's say, you know, ninety 0:13:47.335 --> 0:13:50.455 degree corners where there should be flexible selant. If they 0:13:50.495 --> 0:13:53.095 have done that, ideally you'd get someone either do it 0:13:53.095 --> 0:13:55.695 yourself or get someone to go through rake that out 0:13:56.535 --> 0:13:59.175 and make sure that the sealant goes in. There is 0:13:59.295 --> 0:14:03.175 any of the tiling in critical spaces like a wet 0:14:03.215 --> 0:14:06.695 area inside a shower enclosure. 0:14:07.535 --> 0:14:11.335 No, it's not, it's box, okay, all right? 0:14:12.815 --> 0:14:15.375 And the tiling did they do the floor or just 0:14:15.415 --> 0:14:16.895 the walls? 0:14:16.935 --> 0:14:18.775 Just the floor fortunately, okay? 0:14:18.815 --> 0:14:20.935 And is the floor onto a concrete slab or is 0:14:20.975 --> 0:14:24.735 it on a it's onto a concrete slab, okay, all right. 0:14:24.775 --> 0:14:28.415 So you know, realistically speaking, I'm just thinking about potential 0:14:28.495 --> 0:14:32.415 water damage water ingress in the future, given that it's 0:14:32.535 --> 0:14:35.575 it's not in a shower, it's really just on a 0:14:35.615 --> 0:14:38.375 splash stone and it's on aunt concrete slab. If they 0:14:38.375 --> 0:14:40.775 haven't done a great job, the risk of further damage 0:14:40.775 --> 0:14:41.815 is minimal. 0:14:43.135 --> 0:14:44.335 Yeah, it's just cleaner. 0:14:44.615 --> 0:14:44.855 Yeah. 0:14:45.215 --> 0:14:49.415 Yeah, that's the nightmare. So yeah, so go to you. 0:14:49.415 --> 0:14:51.215 Go to the tiles space. They've they've got. 0:14:51.015 --> 0:14:54.615 Specified some type that I can apply. 0:14:55.095 --> 0:14:57.215 And to be fair, you know, if you, if you, 0:14:57.215 --> 0:14:59.055 you'll find that people there this is not the first 0:14:59.095 --> 0:15:01.495 time they've heard of something like this, so they will 0:15:01.535 --> 0:15:03.215 know exactly the right product to use. 0:15:03.295 --> 0:15:05.215 I've got photogram yeah. 0:15:06.975 --> 0:15:11.735 Right, Ah, and your mate must feel terrible. 0:15:13.455 --> 0:15:15.895 He feels like he should rip it up and pay 0:15:15.895 --> 0:15:22.455 for it the replacement himself. He just feels awful. Yeah, 0:15:22.495 --> 0:15:23.655 and he's a good mate too. 0:15:24.375 --> 0:15:27.175 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, I know. And look, I've 0:15:27.175 --> 0:15:31.455 been completely honest with you. You know, like every obviously I 0:15:31.455 --> 0:15:33.775 know a bunch of tradees and people will ring and 0:15:33.815 --> 0:15:37.375 they'll go, hey, can you recommend such and such? And 0:15:38.055 --> 0:15:40.215 I was going to say nine times, maybe eight times 0:15:40.215 --> 0:15:43.015 out of ten the recommendation goes, well, but every now 0:15:43.015 --> 0:15:45.295 and then, and we all have bad days, right. 0:15:46.375 --> 0:15:48.975 And what I reckon I might have been on something, 0:15:49.095 --> 0:15:51.855 because you don't you don't grout the tile, you grout 0:15:51.935 --> 0:15:53.335 the whole, you grab the game. 0:15:53.495 --> 0:15:56.335 I think what it probably was is they were rushing 0:15:56.375 --> 0:15:59.735 to do the job. They threw the grout and you know, 0:15:59.855 --> 0:16:02.655 pushed it into the gaps. Didn't bother cleaning the tiles, 0:16:02.695 --> 0:16:04.895 because cleaning the toiles is quite a process, right, you 0:16:04.935 --> 0:16:07.415 need two buckets of water, you need sponge, and you 0:16:07.455 --> 0:16:10.975 know you spend time cleaning the excess off, washing the sponge, 0:16:11.015 --> 0:16:15.055 cleaning it down. Absolutely, you know it's it's quite the process. 0:16:15.135 --> 0:16:19.295 But man, give a process. After the fact, the grouts 0:16:19.615 --> 0:16:24.975 now said the grouted said, yeah, look. 0:16:25.135 --> 0:16:26.935 Good luck with the clean up. Hopefully it goes all 0:16:26.975 --> 0:16:31.615 right for you all the very you take care. Then 0:16:32.255 --> 0:16:36.695 it is just its mate. I've got an enormous I've 0:16:36.695 --> 0:16:39.335 got an enormous amount of sympathy for Paul because he's 0:16:39.335 --> 0:16:41.855 now faced with having to clean the job, but also 0:16:41.975 --> 0:16:43.975 for the mate that recommends someone and then they do 0:16:44.135 --> 0:16:49.455 such a rubbish job. And it's very very rare, and 0:16:49.495 --> 0:16:52.175 I'm talking over a very long period of time, but 0:16:52.695 --> 0:16:56.095 every now and then I'll recommend someone and they'll over 0:16:56.135 --> 0:16:58.815 the not recently and not for a while, and not 0:16:59.055 --> 0:17:02.295 very frequently, but every now and then someone will just 0:17:02.375 --> 0:17:05.615 have an off day. Someone will come back and go, okay, 0:17:05.655 --> 0:17:09.975 you recommend it this guy for whatever task but gee, 0:17:10.015 --> 0:17:14.215 I wasn't actually that happy with the job here. I've 0:17:14.375 --> 0:17:18.095 kind of almost stopped. Ah, No, I haven't. There are 0:17:18.095 --> 0:17:21.815 guys that I recommend to never let anyone down, but 0:17:21.855 --> 0:17:23.495 every now and then we all have a bad day, 0:17:23.535 --> 0:17:26.175 and that's the nature of actually building something, you know. 0:17:26.695 --> 0:17:28.775 The only people that don't make mistakes are those people 0:17:28.815 --> 0:17:32.575 who make nothing. Is always my motto. I wait, hundred 0:17:32.615 --> 0:17:35.215 and done, plenty of mistakes myself. I eight hundred eighty 0:17:35.295 --> 0:17:37.535 ten eighty is the number to call. We'll come back 0:17:37.535 --> 0:17:41.215 and talk to Mary straight after the break right he Oh, 0:17:41.615 --> 0:17:44.175 just wrapping up to some of the comments with regard 0:17:44.255 --> 0:17:47.215 to Paul and the issue of having He's got a 0:17:47.215 --> 0:17:49.055 couple of issues there. One is that Tyler did a 0:17:49.095 --> 0:17:51.135 poor job and has left a lot of the grout 0:17:51.175 --> 0:17:52.895 on the surface of the tile, so that needs to 0:17:52.895 --> 0:17:58.095 be cleaned off. Also, Tyler seemed to use the sink 0:17:58.415 --> 0:18:01.535 as somewhere to either mix up or clean up grout, 0:18:02.695 --> 0:18:06.055 which has left a lot of residue inside the sink 0:18:06.695 --> 0:18:08.975 and a texture has come through and said, hey, look, 0:18:09.015 --> 0:18:11.775 it's also highly likely that the sink or the drainage 0:18:11.895 --> 0:18:14.215 is going to be blocked or close to being so 0:18:15.015 --> 0:18:17.135 thank you. That's a very very good point that you make. 0:18:17.255 --> 0:18:20.855 So I suspect that, and you know, I'm just thinking 0:18:20.855 --> 0:18:23.975 about drain un blockers, right, which work on organic material 0:18:25.935 --> 0:18:28.615 that's not going to work on grout. So I would 0:18:28.695 --> 0:18:32.535 probably say to Paul, if you can, I would undo 0:18:32.615 --> 0:18:35.935 the p trap that's underneath the sink and just have 0:18:36.015 --> 0:18:37.735 a look at that and make sure that's not going 0:18:37.775 --> 0:18:39.935 to cause you issues in a couple of months as well. 0:18:40.015 --> 0:18:42.895 So Crik, it just goes on and on, I mean, 0:18:43.295 --> 0:18:46.615 and also it's such bad practice. And this is an 0:18:46.655 --> 0:18:50.695 issue you know when we're cleaning up on site, particularly 0:18:50.735 --> 0:18:55.015 with regard to paint, but certainly with regard to other materials, 0:18:55.055 --> 0:18:59.655 including sementitious materials like grouts, is that you should never 0:18:59.975 --> 0:19:04.975 never direct those down, certainly not storm water. The impact 0:19:05.015 --> 0:19:10.215 on stormwater is devastating. You know that even very small 0:19:10.215 --> 0:19:14.615 amounts of semontitious material going into storm water can cause 0:19:14.735 --> 0:19:18.415 significant damage to particularly you know, if stormwater is going 0:19:18.455 --> 0:19:23.015 into local streams, the impact there is enormous, Like please 0:19:23.055 --> 0:19:26.215 don't underestimate it. And it explains why counsels in particular 0:19:26.655 --> 0:19:29.775 are so hot on chasing up contractors. You know that 0:19:29.935 --> 0:19:32.175 wash off cement and that sort of thing into stormwater, 0:19:33.015 --> 0:19:36.015 and the fines are fairly significant, and they'll come along 0:19:36.055 --> 0:19:38.855 and test catch pits and areas and that sort of thing, 0:19:39.495 --> 0:19:42.575 and to be fair, it drives me nuts. I've seen 0:19:42.575 --> 0:19:44.175 it a couple of times and gone up to people 0:19:44.215 --> 0:19:46.495 and just kind of look, I'm really sorry, but this 0:19:46.615 --> 0:19:50.415 is completely unacceptable, you know, washing down. It's very rare 0:19:50.455 --> 0:19:53.455 that you see it from like large professional companies, but 0:19:53.935 --> 0:19:57.135 individual contractors from time to time. And it's a challenge. Right, 0:19:57.175 --> 0:20:00.815 you've finished doing concrete, You've got the left remnants, let's say, 0:20:01.615 --> 0:20:03.935 in your wheelbarrow. You've cleaned all your trowels and bits 0:20:04.015 --> 0:20:08.495 and pieces, and then you've got this highly alkaline material 0:20:08.735 --> 0:20:12.455 in sludgy water inside your wheelbarrow. Where do you tip it? Well, 0:20:12.535 --> 0:20:15.495 you certainly don't tip it into the curb or onto 0:20:15.495 --> 0:20:18.535 the drive and rinse it down into the drains and 0:20:19.295 --> 0:20:21.295 the same. I mean, I'm just thinking about Paul, with 0:20:21.335 --> 0:20:24.095 this contractor working in his house using the sink to 0:20:24.135 --> 0:20:27.615 clean it up, and that has terrible consequences. So you 0:20:27.655 --> 0:20:30.335 just have to find an area where you can tip 0:20:30.375 --> 0:20:33.135 it either onto the ground or into in an area 0:20:33.175 --> 0:20:36.375 that you've prepared where it's not going to inadvertently end 0:20:36.455 --> 0:20:40.535 up in either wastewater or storm water. Really really important. 0:20:40.535 --> 0:20:42.735 Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that 0:20:42.895 --> 0:20:45.055 number to call Mary? A very good morning to you. 0:20:46.055 --> 0:20:49.895 Hi, good morning, Pete. I've got a question. I was 0:20:49.935 --> 0:20:53.575 thinking of doing wall insulation, but I was looking at 0:20:54.695 --> 0:20:58.575 removing getting the passport and moved and paper and ye 0:20:59.215 --> 0:21:03.975 insulation put in the wall. I wanted to know, PLN 0:21:04.055 --> 0:21:07.535 you sort of do you have to do every wall 0:21:07.655 --> 0:21:11.975 in the house or can you do in sections and 0:21:12.015 --> 0:21:16.415 get consent for sections, Because in the bathroom it means 0:21:16.415 --> 0:21:19.575 you've got to rip the shower keebicle out and you've 0:21:19.575 --> 0:21:24.415 got to take you you've got to take the toilet out, yes, 0:21:24.775 --> 0:21:27.815 and then reinstall it all all for a little area 0:21:27.815 --> 0:21:31.615 of or it's about just over about a meter by 0:21:31.855 --> 0:21:34.775 meter that's actually visible. 0:21:35.535 --> 0:21:35.775 Yeah. 0:21:37.215 --> 0:21:39.855 Do I just wonder if there's anywhere getting consents like 0:21:40.295 --> 0:21:42.775 you know, to do a bedroom, lounge and things like that, 0:21:42.895 --> 0:21:44.735 the same as in the kitchen you've got to take 0:21:44.775 --> 0:21:48.215 all the kitchen cabinets, yes, and then reinstall the kitchen. 0:21:48.775 --> 0:21:50.655 I just wondered if there's a way of doing it 0:21:50.695 --> 0:21:51.135 that way. 0:21:51.655 --> 0:21:56.655 Do you intend to do the work sort of you know, consistently, 0:21:56.815 --> 0:22:00.135 like over a period of one or two years, or 0:22:00.175 --> 0:22:02.215 do you think I'm going to do something. I may 0:22:02.215 --> 0:22:04.215 not do anything for a couple more years and then 0:22:04.255 --> 0:22:05.455 I'll do another piece. 0:22:06.895 --> 0:22:09.935 I was thinking of. Perhaps you like the bathroom is 0:22:09.975 --> 0:22:11.015 not doing it at all? 0:22:11.295 --> 0:22:13.695 Right, okay, this the bathroom doesn't need. 0:22:17.455 --> 0:22:19.495 But I just wondered if there's a way. 0:22:19.335 --> 0:22:20.055 Of doing it. 0:22:20.255 --> 0:22:21.175 Yeah, I mean you can. 0:22:21.095 --> 0:22:24.495 Get a part like a park consent, or whether you 0:22:24.535 --> 0:22:26.055 have it has to be all or nothing. 0:22:28.095 --> 0:22:30.655 I mean, look what you're saying, while it seems like 0:22:30.735 --> 0:22:36.615 a really simple question, is in fact like, well, not 0:22:36.655 --> 0:22:42.135 a nightmare. It just gets quite complicated quite quickly. First up, 0:22:42.175 --> 0:22:44.855 good on you for for appreciating the fact that, in 0:22:44.855 --> 0:22:48.175 fact this type of work does require a building consent. Right, 0:22:48.295 --> 0:22:54.535 so you know, removing lining, adding insulation to existing exterior walls, 0:22:54.575 --> 0:22:57.735 and replacing the lining is still work that requires a 0:22:57.735 --> 0:23:00.975 building consent. Now, as an aside to that, I have 0:23:01.175 --> 0:23:03.535 argued for a number of years that that work should 0:23:03.535 --> 0:23:08.615 be potentially exempt from having a building consent. It should 0:23:08.655 --> 0:23:10.615 be the sort of work that could be done under 0:23:10.615 --> 0:23:13.255 Schedule one of the Act, which is work that sets 0:23:13.255 --> 0:23:15.735 out or a legislation that sets out what type of 0:23:15.775 --> 0:23:19.415 work could be done without necessarily requiring a building consent, 0:23:20.575 --> 0:23:22.935 and that it's the sort of work that, you know, 0:23:22.975 --> 0:23:26.775 if supervised by an LBP or by an architectural designer, 0:23:26.815 --> 0:23:30.415 an architect or an engineer, can be done to the 0:23:30.495 --> 0:23:33.975 code without necessarily requiring a building consent, given how much 0:23:34.215 --> 0:23:36.215 how important it is and how much of this work 0:23:36.255 --> 0:23:41.055 needs to happen, I suppose, but that's not the rules 0:23:41.135 --> 0:23:43.255 right now. So the rules are that you need to 0:23:43.255 --> 0:23:46.295 get a consent. Then it becomes an issue of you know, 0:23:46.975 --> 0:23:51.015 can you have or can you work with your counsel 0:23:51.175 --> 0:23:54.335