1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 1: It's quoted too with us now as Indo Brady are 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: UK correspondent Evening Inda. 3 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 2: Hello, Heather, lovely to speak to you, Agan, good to 4 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 2: talk to you. 5 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: Is is what do you make of Angela Raina getting 6 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: these vanity photographs taken? 7 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 2: Well, look, this is a spillover from the Conservative government 8 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: because they had professional photographers. Boris Johnson had his own 9 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: professional photographer, and it is it's a control mechanism basically 10 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: to make sure that the pictures that end up in 11 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 2: the papers nobody is unhappy with them. And look, whatever 12 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 2: anyone thinks in public life of photographers who work for newspapers, 13 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 2: they are there to document history. They are there to 14 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: document the news and archive life as they see it, 15 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 2: not how you want to be seen. And we've we've 16 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: had some kind of stupid pictures over the years of 17 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 2: politicians in public doing stupid things and they get on 18 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 2: the front pages and the narrative kind of sticks. I mean, 19 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 2: we had a guy, a labor politician, he was the 20 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: Labor leader, Ed Milliband, he never became Prime minister and 21 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 2: there was a picture of him eating a bake sandwich 22 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: one day that a photographer took and it was he 23 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 2: just made a mess of eating a sandwich, and that 24 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: basically was the narrative that you wouldn't let this guy 25 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: run the country. You can't even eat a sandwich. So 26 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: I think what Browner is doing basically is a spillover 27 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: from everything that went on in Downing Street on the 28 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 2: Boris Johnson, that taxpayer money was put aside for professional photographers. 29 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: Johnson had a huge, huge ego, and you know, the 30 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 2: money's there and she's just using it, same as the 31 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 2: Tories did. 32 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: What about her drinking whiskey through a straw though, that's 33 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: gonna be some sort of a crime. 34 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: Yes, and she was. Look, Look, she gets a lot 35 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 2: of attention in the media because an awful lot of 36 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 2: people she's quite divisive. Look, she's a working class girl 37 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: from a working class background and she's deputy Prime minister. 38 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: An awful lot of people here on the right hate 39 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: her for that very reason. So whatever she wears tomorrow, 40 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 2: she goes out and wears a ten dollars blouse tomorrow, 41 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: they will say, oh my god, she's deputy prime minister. 42 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: Wouldn't she dress up? Make an effort. And then if 43 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: she's seen in the the designer Frock next week it'll 44 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 2: be oh my god, who's paying for this? She can't win. 45 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: It was not gonna win if she's drinking whiskey out 46 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: of a straw. But maybe it's a thing that's going 47 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 1: to catch on. Hey, listen, how is it? Five and 48 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: a half percent pay rise for nurses? Not enough? 49 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 2: They say they deserve more. And the inflation last year 50 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 2: the start of last year was running at eleven percent. 51 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 2: And I think what's happened is they've seen the junior 52 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 2: doctors get thirty five percent over the next couple of years. 53 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 2: They've seen train drivers get twenty two percent, and I 54 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 2: think the nurses have just looked around and thought, do 55 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 2: you know what? You all were happy enough to stand 56 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: every Thursday evening during COVID on your doorsteps and bang 57 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 2: pots and pans and clap for us. Well, you know 58 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 2: the time for clapping is over. They were the absolute 59 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 2: heroines and heroes of the pandemic. My mother was a 60 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 2: nurse in Ireland. She was a psychiatric nurse. Nurses do 61 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 2: a bloody, bloody good job and they don't get paid 62 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 2: anywhere near what they should. And I think a lot 63 00:02:58,160 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 2: of nurses here are a breaking point. And I think 64 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: the big winners out of this will be the health 65 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 2: services of New Zealand, Australia, Canada, United States. Do buy 66 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 2: where people want to go and actually earn a living 67 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 2: and have an awful lot less stressed. 68 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe that now Keyostamas speech right, He's going 69 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: to stay in his vision for Britain today at the 70 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: Labor Party conference. Are you expecting it to be a 71 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: real tub thump or what? 72 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 2: He doesn't really do? Rasmetas He's not Tony Blair. I 73 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 2: mean everyone's expecting Blair and you know de Rem music 74 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 2: in the background and things can only get better. He's 75 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: a pragmatist. But I think the problem Starmer has now 76 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: is he spent the last eight weeks telling everyone how 77 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 2: bad it is, and it is bad. Here seven million 78 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: people on the waiting list for hospital treatment, seven million 79 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 2: people waiting for hospital treatment in Britain. A GDP debt 80 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 2: is now one hundred percent of GDP. Absolutely everything in 81 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: this country is broken. And I think, you know, as 82 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 2: much as people hated the last lot, they need to 83 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 2: hear that he has got some solutions. And hopefully today 84 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 2: is the day where he just spells out that you 85 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 2: know there are better days coming but just bear with me. 86 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: We need ideas, not word salad. I mean we've had 87 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 2: fourteen years of word salad under the Conservatives and it's 88 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 2: got Britain absolutely nowhere. So all eyes on Starmer today. 89 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 2: I think the big problem he has is there's no money. 90 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 2: There's simply no money left in 91 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: The pot for more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive Listen 92 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: live to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, 93 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.