1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,800 Speaker 1: From Joy and my wealth Andrew Kella have very good 2 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Monday morning. 3 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 2: Very good morning, Mike. 4 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: You have the jobs and I was I think they 5 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: were better than expected to stay side, weren't they? 6 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 2: They were? 7 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 3: But before we start that, you know we'd finished last 8 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 3: week with feel Good Friday, didn't we? 9 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 2: That did carry over the weekend? 10 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 3: Now, I know you would have been glued to the 11 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 3: Warriors and the Miami GP. 12 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 2: But what else was on over the weekend? 13 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: How about that? Do you believe that he was I 14 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 1: assume we're talking about the same thing. Do you believe 15 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: that Abel was on stage not knowing? 16 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 2: Can you believe that? 17 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 3: So this is the Berkshire Hathway AGM, and Warren Buffett 18 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 3: has still down but he announced it at the AGM 19 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 3: and he hadn't told the guy. That's absolutely brilliant. But 20 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 3: you can do that sort of stuff when you're ninety 21 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 3: four years old, can't you? 22 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: I reckon? 23 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: And do you reckon? He really drinks all that Coca 24 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: cola or that's just a thing now? 25 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 3: No, I don't think he probably does. I mean, well, 26 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 3: if he isn't, he's been consistently lying about it for 27 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 3: about sixty years. So yes, I guess he does anyway. Anyway, 28 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 3: let's get onto non farm pails. So big news Friday, 29 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 3: non farm praier. It's lots of concern about the impact 30 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 3: of the policy blitz that we've seen from the Trump 31 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 3: administration in the first one hundred days. Also, there's a 32 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 3: reason why Trump can't do three terms because he'll be pope. 33 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 3: So how can you do three terms if he's pope? Anyway, 34 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 3: So got this policy blitz in the first one hundred days. Now, 35 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 3: the Business consumer surveys, that's soft data. They're sending warning signals. 36 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 3: But we need to look at the hard data as well, 37 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 3: not just what people think. Now, non farm payrolls is 38 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 3: a piece of hard data. What's happening in the laid 39 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:29,559 Speaker 3: mark and the key takeaway if you want to impress 40 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 3: all your mates at work today, you've just said it. 41 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 3: They were stronger than expected. So in April they added 42 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 3: one hundred and seventy seven thousand jobs to the US 43 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 3: economy with expectation around one hundred and thirty eight So 44 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 3: an easy beat there. 45 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 2: The prior two. 46 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,199 Speaker 3: Months were revised a little bit lower. Are unemployment rates 47 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 3: stable at four point two percent, which doesn't sound terrible. 48 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 2: Is it. 49 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 3: Participation rates sixty two point six ticked up from sixty 50 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 3: two point five. Not a huge move, but significant when 51 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 3: you're looking at such a large population. Average hourly earnings 52 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 3: rose zero point two percent, Wages up three point eight 53 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 3: percent year on years, so mildly eased from previous month. 54 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 3: Added quite a few jobs in healthcare fifty one thousand jobs. 55 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 2: Interesting. 56 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 3: Federal government actually added nine thousand jobs in April despite 57 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 3: doze that year. Today you have seen twenty six thousand 58 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 3: jobs shared from the federal government. Few comments might you 59 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 3: are not seeing any sign yet of a negative impact 60 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 3: on the jobs market from trade policy induced uncertainty, But. 61 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: As I said last week, you have to be. 62 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 3: Very careful I think about drawing any firm or medium 63 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 3: term conclusions from these current data points. I think it 64 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 3: seems reasonable to expect it's in the next few months 65 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 3: when we'll see the material impacts, particularly in things. 66 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 2: Like dose those jobs. 67 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,679 Speaker 3: A lot of those federal employees are they're on furlough, 68 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 3: I'll think of what they call it, So we're not 69 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 3: going to see that in the numbers yet. Also, there 70 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 3: was actually that surgeon importing that we saw in the US. 71 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: Now there is some speculation that. 72 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 3: That added a little bit to the labor force because 73 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 3: people have to work, so I think areas like transportation 74 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 3: early days. 75 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 2: Yet keep let's keep an eye on all of this. 76 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: OK, what about the recovery on. 77 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 2: Recovery on so non fum payer I was aware. 78 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 3: Received, but that's really just part of the bigger picture 79 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 3: of the whole. 80 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 2: Of last week. Yes, recovery continues. 81 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 3: US share market indexes are now setting records, Mike, given 82 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 3: the headlines that you've been seeing, you wouldn't have thought 83 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 3: the records were positive ones. 84 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 2: But the S and P five hundred is on a 85 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 2: winning streak. 86 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 3: So April, Mike, April share market performs that was just 87 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 3: a bad dream. 88 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: Forget about that. 89 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 3: The S and P five hundred has now risen for 90 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 3: nine consecutive days and, as I said, the longest winning 91 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 3: streak in the last twenty years. So it's recovered all 92 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 3: the ground that we've seen since the infamous April the 93 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 3: second Rose Garden tariff announcement. So the end result, I 94 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 3: mean in April, the S and P five hundred actually 95 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 3: fell zero point six eight percent, so it barely move, 96 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 3: but just a heck of. 97 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 2: A round trip. 98 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 3: In the background of fifteen percent fall and recovery in 99 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 3: New Zealand dollars, though, Mike, you would have lost just 100 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 3: over five percent because the big currency moves as well, 101 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 3: Keys gained in value. That reduces the value of your 102 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 3: offshore holdings. But also feeding into this positive energy over 103 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 3: the week, you might is there a thawing in the 104 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 3: US China trade stand off? Some cryptic comments out of 105 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 3: China over the weekend. We'll see how that develops this week. 106 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 3: And the only negative on Friday was a bit of 107 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 3: a bit of a lift in US ten year treasury rates. 108 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 2: They went up about nine basis points. That could be significant. 109 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: I need some numbers, O, I'll give you them here 110 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: we are. 111 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: Everything's positive. 112 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 3: The Dow jones up one point three nine percent close 113 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 3: the week at forty one thy three hundred and seventeen, 114 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 3: the S and P five hundred just to shade off 115 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 3: one and a half percent gain there, closing at five 116 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 3: six eight six, and the NASDAK up one and a 117 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 3: half percent, closing at seventeen thousand, nine hundred and seventy seven, 118 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 3: just a sliver off the eighteen thousand mark. The forty 119 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 3: one hundred gained over one percent eight five nine six, 120 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 3: the Nike gained over one percent thirty six eight hundred 121 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 3: and thirty. 122 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 2: The Chinese market's still on holiday. The Aussie's gained. 123 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 3: One point one to three percent on Friday eight to 124 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 3: three eight leading into the election. 125 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 2: That was ninety two point game there and the insects. 126 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,119 Speaker 3: Fifty one point four eight percent one hundred and seventy 127 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 3: nine points twelve thy three hundred and twenty eight Kiwi 128 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,559 Speaker 3: dollar against the US point five nine thirty nine point 129 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 3: nine two o two against the ossie point five two 130 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 3: five nine, Euro point four four six eight against the pound, 131 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 3: eighty six point oh three. Japanese yen gold coming off 132 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 3: a little bit three thousand, two hundred and forty dollars 133 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 3: and Brent crew is still quite low sixty one dollars 134 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 3: and twenty nine cents. 135 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: You have an excellent day. Catchup tomorrow, Andrew Kelliherjomiwealth dot 136 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: co dot m Z. For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, 137 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: listen live to news Talks at b from six am weekdays, 138 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio