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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks at b.

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Speaker 2: The first reviews or report cards are in on the

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Speaker 2: Australian social media ban. Of course, sixteen year olds in

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Speaker 2: Australia are banned from using social media. Our Textbert Paul

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Speaker 2: stenhouses here with the details.

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Speaker 3: So how's going, Paul, Yeah, there's room for improvement, Jack,

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Speaker 3: So maybe what's that a C or maybe a B.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, but the regulator is watching. I don't

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Speaker 3: think they're taking any measures as yet, but they are.

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Speaker 3: They're paying close attention to those ten social media companies

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Speaker 3: who have to try to keep children off the platforms,

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Speaker 3: and I think it is possibly easier said than done.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: The regulator at the moment has flagged a couple of

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Speaker 3: things though, where they've said that where they're sort of

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Speaker 3: not following, or where there could be some improvements.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: One of those is that before the band came into play,

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Speaker 3: some kids said they were under sixteen, and since the

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Speaker 3: band came into effect, they've had the opportunity need to

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Speaker 3: change their account to say that they are over sixteen.

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Speaker 3: So that's one little check mark in the maybe things

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Speaker 3: to improve column. They've also found that there are insufficient

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Speaker 3: ways to report under sixteen accounts, whether they be from

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Speaker 3: other kids or from adults or things like that. And

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Speaker 3: also they still don't have good ways to prevent kids

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Speaker 3: from just creating new accounts who are under sixteen, but

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Speaker 3: maybe aren't saying that they are under sixteen. So look

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Speaker 3: social media companies, both Meta and Snap, they're both saying

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Speaker 3: they're doing the best they can to comply, but it

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Speaker 3: is and they say this. I think we've talked about

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Speaker 3: this as well. It is really difficult without a form

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Speaker 3: of government ID to know how old a person is.

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Speaker 3: Otherwise we're just trusting or potentially maybe inferring from some

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Speaker 3: of their activities. But that's not one hundred percent. So

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Speaker 3: Meta has at least suggested that the app stores should

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Speaker 3: really be the place that age verification takes place, which

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Speaker 3: is a little bit of a little shift aroo, if

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Speaker 3: you will.

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Speaker 2: I was going to say, basically, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: So they're kind of saying, well, we operate and we

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Speaker 3: can't really figure this out, but hey, app store, you

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Speaker 3: maybe have credit card details, you maybe know something else, Apple, Google,

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Speaker 3: maybe you can just figure this over here.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, that is so interesting. I suppose at the

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Speaker 2: end of the day, though, I mean supporters of the

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Speaker 2: band would say, don't let the perfect be the enemy.

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Speaker 2: They're good. Like, if it's still stopping some younger kids

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Speaker 2: from accessing social media, and I think it is, I

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Speaker 2: think everyone agrees that they might otherwise have been using it,

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Speaker 2: then it's still a net positive compared to the previous setting.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it's going to be very interesting to see

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Speaker 2: if the big social media companies come out with some

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Speaker 2: alternate plans for actually being able to verify people's ages

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Speaker 2: without using those government issued ideas. Thank you very much,

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Speaker 2: Paul our textbook Paul Steinhouse.

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