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Speaker 1: To New Zealand's home for trusted news and views.

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Speaker 2: Heather Duplicy Ellen on the Mic asking Breakfaunt with the

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Speaker 2: land Rover Discovery, never stop discovering news, Tom's dead, be.

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Speaker 3: Good morning and welcome to you today on the show,

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Speaker 3: will the changes to the Family Boost have more families

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Speaker 3: claiming this money? Vertecks obviously said, come in, it was guilty.

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Speaker 3: We're going to go to Australia to unpack the mushroom

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Speaker 3: chef case. That Wrexham game is going gangbusters for Wellington Accommodation.

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Speaker 3: I don't reckon you can get a room if you

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Speaker 3: haven't got one yet. And also Bill Bailey, the UK

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Speaker 3: funny man. He sells out every single time he comes here.

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Speaker 3: He's coming here again. We're going to chat to him after.

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Speaker 1: Eight, Heather Duplicy Ellen.

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Speaker 3: So Nikola Willis has finally made her long awaited changes

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Speaker 3: to the Family Boost policy to try to redeem the

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Speaker 3: thing which has turned into a bit of a dog

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Speaker 3: of a policy sounded good at the election, because well,

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Speaker 3: of course it did. Who doesn't love the idea of

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Speaker 3: helping families to cover expensive childcare costs? But then the

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Speaker 3: problem started happening. It became hard to administer. Hardly anyone

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Speaker 3: got the money promised. Who wants to hold onto three

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Speaker 3: months worth of invoices in order to claim the money

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Speaker 3: back at the end of a quarter. And then it

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Speaker 3: turns out we are spending about a quarter of the

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Speaker 3: money of this thing just on the admin of it.

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Speaker 3: So Nikola Willis has now tweaked it to improved it,

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Speaker 3: to improve it, but honestly I dislike it as much

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Speaker 3: as I did yesterday before before these changes. What we've

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Speaker 3: done now is families earning up to two hundred and

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Speaker 3: thirty thousand dollars a year can claim money for ece.

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Speaker 3: Is a family on two hundred and thirty thousand dollars

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Speaker 3: a year poor, No, they're not poor. If they're not poor,

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Speaker 3: then why are we giving the money in the form

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Speaker 3: of welfare. The country has broke. Also, it makes absolutely

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Speaker 3: no sense that we're handing out money to working families.

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Speaker 3: But then at the very same time, the NATS are

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Speaker 3: tossing up whether to campaign next year on raising the

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Speaker 3: superage again, which means in effect taking money away from

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Speaker 3: pensioners because the country is broke, so we don't have

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Speaker 3: enough money to give welfare to our pensioners. But we

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Speaker 3: do have enough money to give welfare to working parents

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Speaker 3: on a good wicket. I mean, this is the kind

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Speaker 3: of election bride that shouldn't have been tweaked, should just

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Speaker 3: have been scrapped.

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Speaker 1: Why news of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 3: Texas Senator Ted Cruz has been visiting Camp Mystic. This

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Speaker 3: is the death toll, of course, for the death hold

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Speaker 3: for the camps and the councilor is now standing at

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Speaker 3: twenty seven.

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Speaker 4: There's still ten girls and one counselor from Campstick that

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Speaker 4: are unaccounted for. And the pain and agony of not

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Speaker 4: knowing your child's whereabouts. It's the worst thing, imagine it is.

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Speaker 3: Local authorities are still trying to bat away responsibility for

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Speaker 3: not taking action sooner.

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Speaker 5: This is the headwaters of the Guadalupe. This is the beginning.

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Speaker 5: This is where everything forms when you know, when it

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Speaker 5: comes in to the North and South Fork, and so

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Speaker 5: so as those things develop, it develops very rapidly, very quickly,

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Speaker 5: and this rose very quickly in a very short amount

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Speaker 5: of time.

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Speaker 3: The tariff deadline is obviously coming up, or is it.

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Speaker 3: There is now global confusion about whether it's supposed to

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Speaker 3: be tomorrow July ninth, or August first plus where the

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Speaker 3: deals are being done or letters are being sent.

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Speaker 6: There are structural barriers to making significant tries read changes

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Speaker 6: in this system. There are subsidies, there are policies, there

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Speaker 6: are regulatory barriers. If it was easy, it would have

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Speaker 6: been done many years before.

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Speaker 3: More on that shortly Over in the UK, it's the

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Speaker 3: twentieth anniversary for the seven seven terrorist attack in London

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Speaker 3: that killed fifty two and injured almost eight hundred.

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Speaker 7: We come to honor the memory of those who died,

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Speaker 7: to stand alongside the survivors, to give thanks for those

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Speaker 7: who responded with courage and compassion.

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Speaker 3: So he can't head a word as well.

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Speaker 8: Anybody thinking about feature cowdly acts of terrorism is you

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Speaker 8: will not defeat us, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, will you not cow us?

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Speaker 8: We will not forget those whose lives were cut short.

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Speaker 3: To the Middle East and Israeli whistleblower has admitted they

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Speaker 3: are in fact committing war crimes in Gaza.

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Speaker 9: For sure, there were no what they were with over there,

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Speaker 9: but because it was like in the territory that they

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Speaker 9: are not supposed to be in so and it also

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Speaker 9: varied between days, but some days they decided to shoot them.

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Speaker 3: And Finally, after months and months of the Justice Department

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Speaker 3: and Trump saying they would release the Epstein files, Well,

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Speaker 3: you're probably going to be disappointed at the Justice Department. Well,

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Speaker 3: today announced there is no evidence that Epstein was murdered

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Speaker 3: and that he never kept a client list, aside from

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Speaker 3: ten hours of jail house security footage showing no one

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Speaker 3: entered Epstein's cell on the day that he died. The

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Speaker 3: Justice Department will not be releasing any new documents, and

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Speaker 3: that will, of course, could an end for that. Everybody

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Speaker 3: will be absolutely fine with that, won't they. That is

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Speaker 3: news of the world in ninety seconds. So Yeah. On

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Speaker 3: the tariffs, we've got developing news this morning, more of

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Speaker 3: them or I guess at the most extreme levels. Donald

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Speaker 3: Trump has said he's going to impose twenty five percent

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Speaker 3: tariffs on tariffs on Japan and South Korea, which is

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Speaker 3: the original threat unless they were able to strike a deal. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: means they haven't been able to strike those deals they

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Speaker 3: were both after Also, he said that there will be

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Speaker 3: ten percent an additional ten percent tariff on any nations

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Speaker 3: involved with bricks. That's that Brazil Rush, India, South Africa,

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Speaker 3: China setup, which he says is an anti America grouping.

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Speaker 3: This is on top of the confusion which has been

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Speaker 3: raining for the past twenty four hours over when the

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Speaker 3: tariffs would be kicking in the ninety days. Is due

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Speaker 3: to run out tomorrow, but now it turns out it's

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Speaker 3: going to be August the first. And there's the letters,

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Speaker 3: and there's the deals and all the stuff. Markets are

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Speaker 3: not loving this at all. The s and P five

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Speaker 3: hundred felt a session lows after the announcement. We'll have

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Speaker 3: a chat to Andrew Kllaher about that. Shortly twelve past six.

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Speaker 3: By the way, the changes that Nikola willis made to

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Speaker 3: Family Boost yesterday, she reckons, will result in another sixteen

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Speaker 3: thousand families being able to get on the welfare, helping

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Speaker 3: them out with the early childhood costs. We're gonna have

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Speaker 3: a chat to Early Childhood New Zealand about that. After seven.

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Speaker 3: It's quarter past six right now, Andrew callaher. JMI Wealth

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Speaker 3: is with me.

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Speaker 10: Hey, Andrew, very good morning, Heather.

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Speaker 3: What are you making of the Trump stuff?

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Speaker 10: Oh my gosh, So back into this is the moving

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Speaker 10: feast that is the US and global trade policy. And look,

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Speaker 10: I hate to say it, but it has become a

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Speaker 10: bit of a recurrent theme, hasn't it In the sort

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Speaker 10: of typical playbook of the Trump administration that the heather

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Speaker 10: the reality of doing stuff is actually proven to be

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Speaker 10: more difficult than they initially thought. So this week was

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Speaker 10: staring down the barrel of the nine July deadline, which

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Speaker 10: is the end date of the ninety day pause that

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Speaker 10: was applied to the implementation of the infamous reciprocal tariffs

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Speaker 10: they announced on the second of April, and then the

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Speaker 10: Trump had realized administration realized in the ninth of April

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Speaker 10: that it wasn't going to work, so they put this

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Speaker 10: pause in place. Then they promised that they would do

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Speaker 10: numerous deals, and you know, you.

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Speaker 11: Hate to go back to the facts.

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Speaker 10: But Pete Navarro, who's the Special Trade Council, he said

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Speaker 10: his was ninety deals in ninety days, which was never

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Speaker 10: going to happen because the reality just doesn't allow for that.

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Speaker 10: So what we saw Sunday night, Scott Vesent, Treasury Secretary,

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Speaker 10: he said, look, letters are going to start going out

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Speaker 10: this week to the trade park partners basically looking for

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Speaker 10: some sort of resolution of outstanding deals by first of August,

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Speaker 10: and if they didn't get that resolution, the countries called boomerang,

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Speaker 10: April the second. Now, I've talked a number of times

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Speaker 10: before about this somewhat chaotic sort of operational environment within

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Speaker 10: the uncertainty because you know, we really don't know if

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Speaker 10: this will actually happen and what will happen. Look, there's

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Speaker 10: still the impression that a number of deals will be

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Speaker 10: announced this week.

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Speaker 11: Heather. You've got a.

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Speaker 10: Number of sort of deals in place, Vietnam, China, some

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Speaker 10: agreement with the UK, some of the EU. They're not

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Speaker 10: full detailed trade deals. China is more of a holding agreement.

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Speaker 10: And then as you just said here that to add

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Speaker 10: be an extra seen percent applied to these bricks emerging countries,

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Speaker 10: so Brazil, Russia, India, China. But to spice that up

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Speaker 10: even more, last year a number of other countries joined

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Speaker 10: which sort of which Trump has me sort of quite

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Speaker 10: matey with so we're not too sure whether that ten

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Speaker 10: we're in the weeds of the catchphrase between twenty five,

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Speaker 10: which is uncertainty. You got more in the mix.

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Speaker 11: Now.

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Speaker 10: What we do know is this, I think is a

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Speaker 10: reminder that the global trade environment is moving into a

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Speaker 10: more restrictive phase. It will be worse than it was,

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Speaker 10: It'll be more restrictive than it was prior to this.

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Speaker 11: So Marcus a weaker. They don't like the uncertainty.

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Speaker 10: And actually overnight as well, Pete Navarro is now putting

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Speaker 10: pressure on as well as Trump putting pressure on Jera

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Speaker 10: and Pal so is Pete Navarro and that political pressure

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Speaker 10: from the Federal Reserve. That's not something that financial markets

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Speaker 12: No, not at all.

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Speaker 3: Over in Australia, what are you putting from the RBA today.

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Speaker 10: Well, general consensusus SO Governor Michelle Bollockshield announced the latest

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Speaker 10: deliberation of the Reserve Bank of Australia on the level

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Speaker 10: of the cash rate. Their rates currently three point eight

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Speaker 10: still a little bit higher than us. The big four banks,

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Speaker 10: the economists, they're all aligned in their view. The Central

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Speaker 10: Bank will will drop the rate to three point six

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Speaker 10: and you've probably got to agree with that. Inflation prints

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Speaker 10: and employment that's probably influencing that call. Household spending numbers

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Speaker 10: data was well under expectations.

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Speaker 11: Their retail sales have been weak. They've got similar.

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Speaker 10: Issues to us with sort of depressed consumer confidence, which

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Speaker 10: again is the impact of all that uncertainty out there. Also,

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Speaker 10: you remember China very important for the Aussie economy and

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Speaker 10: the very uncertain there's a lot of uncertainty around the

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Speaker 10: economic future for China as well. So I think all

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Speaker 10: in all, yep, they'll get their rate down to three

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Speaker 10: point six and they'll probably end up somewhere around three percent,

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Speaker 10: not dissimilar from us. And all will be revealed at

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Speaker 10: four thirty this afternoon, Heather, and we can talk about

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Speaker 10: it tomorrow morning.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely and we will Andrew give me the numbers.

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Speaker 1: Sure.

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Speaker 10: So as I said, yous markets are weaker, the Dow jones,

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Speaker 10: so the coming off full time house Star Jones is

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Speaker 3: Good stuff. Andrew talk to you tomorrow. Andrew callaherve Jmi. Well.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Tammy, would you do this? I think this is incredible.

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Speaker 8: You well you can jo.

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Speaker 3: Heather four hundred minus three hundred and seventy seven is

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Speaker 3: He must have done something private or something like that.

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Speaker 3: Well done to Sam that he can count. By the way,

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Speaker 13: Good morning, Comma, thank youob to Heather, how are you.

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Speaker 13: Look, you know many of the EWE and Mati businesses

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Speaker 13: That's what many of the we are all about.

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Speaker 3: We're often using the y Cuttle case rights as an

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Speaker 13: You might have noticed a report just recently about ninety

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Speaker 1: What toma?

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Speaker 3: What have we we got? These three examples that are

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Speaker 3: What happens to the profits, well.

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Speaker 13: Profits that they are to be made and a lot

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Speaker 3: Tom, do you ever show this to Spooie up North

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Speaker 3: Good souff Thoma, thank you very much for your time.

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Speaker 3: Is always time of Paul Taka Marti. Development Minister Heather

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Speaker 3: one click. So they're fixing that, as they showed caught

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Speaker 3: it two.

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Speaker 15: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of Mind

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Speaker 15: for New Zealand Business.

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Speaker 3: Catherine Field is with us out of France. AI Catherine,

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Speaker 3: How good morning, Heather. So mccron is going to catch

444
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Speaker 3: up with Kia and it's going to be a massive lovin'.

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Speaker 16: Oh, it's just going to be enormous. It's going to

446
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Speaker 16: be posh more. There's going to be bort on me

447
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Speaker 16: and put into that. You're going to have a state visit.

448
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Speaker 16: You're going to have the carriages going up, twins of cast,

449
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Speaker 16: we're going to have childs. It's going to be the

450
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Speaker 16: big lover and that of course we haven't seen from

451
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Speaker 16: this sort of state visit by any U head of

452
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Speaker 16: state since Brexit, so that's going to be interesting. And

453
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Speaker 16: there's lots of talk about shared interests, vital interests, and

454
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Speaker 16: the need for Britain and France to move on from

455
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Speaker 16: those turbulent waters. I think we could say from Boris

456
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Speaker 16: Johnson and the Brexit days and Liz Truss who said

457
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Speaker 16: the jury was still out on whether or not France

458
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Speaker 16: was a friend or a foe. So they're looking to

459
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Speaker 16: really just move on. Remember that row that they had

460
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Speaker 16: the orcas the submarine contracts, where they say that's all

461
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Speaker 16: in the past now that we're living in a new

462
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Speaker 16: world where there are new international challenges and it's time

463
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Speaker 16: for the UK and France to stand together. These are

464
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Speaker 16: permanent members of You and Security Council, they're both nuclear armed,

465
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Speaker 16: the diplomatic outreach and that this is going to be

466
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Speaker 16: a summit that shows that side of the current international climate.

467
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Speaker 16: And I think in the same time it's going to

468
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Speaker 16: be a little snub to the US President who had

469
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Speaker 16: hoped he'd be the first one over there for his

470
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Speaker 16: state visit that mister Macron is getting in just ahead

471
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Speaker 16: of him, and.

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Speaker 3: So what does it If they've resolved most of their issues,

473
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Speaker 3: what are they going to talk about the channel crosshoks or.

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Speaker 16: There's going to be channel crossings. That's going to be

475
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Speaker 16: a big one, of course, because we've had these so

476
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Speaker 16: many boats going over with asylum seekers. This year, we've

477
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Speaker 16: had some twenty thousand set out from French shores so far.

478
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Speaker 16: That's almost double for the same period last year. Now,

479
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Speaker 16: what the French have been saying all along is look,

480
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Speaker 16: you there are you in conventions, there are laws. You

481
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Speaker 16: can't just stop people going out in a boat. So

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Speaker 16: the French say that they now think they've been able

483
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Speaker 16: to find a way around the protocols that would be

484
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Speaker 16: allow them to actually stop these what they call the

485
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Speaker 16: taxi boats, these ones that set out from the coast

486
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Speaker 16: that take the people out to these larger vessels that

487
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Speaker 16: take the people across the across the channels. So that's

488
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Speaker 16: what they want. They reckon they've found a loophole that

489
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Speaker 16: would allow them to do that, So there'll be agreement

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Speaker 16: on that. They're also going to try and get big agreement.

491
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Speaker 16: I think it's going to be more like on Thursday,

492
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Speaker 16: agreement on the defense of Ukraine and particular defense spending.

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Speaker 16: That's where we're going to start seeing, particularly the European

494
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Speaker 16: response to the US holding off on more equipment going

495
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Speaker 16: to Ukraine. Again, we're going to be seeing that same look.

496
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Speaker 16: You know, Stumer and Macron they can do business together.

497
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Speaker 16: They're also going to meet up on Friday with the

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Speaker 16: German Chancellor. So it's going to be just another look

499
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Speaker 16: at how you're the far right or you're all these

500
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Speaker 16: leaders are under pressure from the populace on the far

501
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Speaker 16: right that you're these guys are in charge and they're

502
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Speaker 16: trying to steady the ship.

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Speaker 3: Do you get a swim in the Seine?

504
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Speaker 16: You wouldn't catch me in the sand? Ah, No, No,

505
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Speaker 16: what New Zealander would go and swim in a waterway?

506
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Speaker 16: Was like a taxiway. But yeah, you know, after they

507
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Speaker 16: spent so much money, you know, getting off the back

508
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Speaker 16: of the Olympics, they spent what two point seven billion

509
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Speaker 16: New Zealand dollars to clean up the sein. They finally

510
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Speaker 16: got it just in time for most of the races

511
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Speaker 16: during last year's Paris Olympics. But yeah, they had Saturday

512
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Speaker 16: was the first day. Apparently, people who went in told

513
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Speaker 16: me it was wonderfully clean and fine. But then Saturday

514
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Speaker 16: night it rained here and a lot of the waste

515
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Speaker 16: from the foot paths and things like that went into

516
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Speaker 16: the sand. And so for the moment, the red flags

517
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Speaker 16: are still flying over those three areas that we're supposed

518
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Speaker 16: to now would be allowed to go and swim in.

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Speaker 3: I think you're right, Catherine, just avoid Catherine, thanks so much.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate it. As cashron Field, correspondent out of France, Heather.

521
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Speaker 3: If nothing else, the mushroom cases made the beef Wellington

522
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Speaker 3: a dish to remembered, you know what. I much like

523
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Speaker 3: the sein something to be avoided now, don't you think.

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Speaker 3: And it's also it's awfully fiddley, isn't it I think?

525
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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know about you, but pre children,

526
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Speaker 3: I love to fiddle around with food and all kinds

527
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Speaker 3: of complicated things. Nowadays, you're not going to catch me

528
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Speaker 3: doing a beef Wellington. You're lucky if you get a

529
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Speaker 3: bolonnet shoved in your face. Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Because that's a lot of great.

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Speaker 8: If I can't make it in the walk in fifteen minutes,

532
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Speaker 8: I'm out of it.

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Speaker 3: I'm with you. The Wellington needed to die with the

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Speaker 3: eighties and that's unfortunate. Well, it's unfortunate it's been revived

535
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Speaker 3: for the outcome here, but it's it's reminded us why

536
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Speaker 3: we don't need to eat it. By the way, it

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Speaker 3: seems old Aaron Pattison may have thought that she was.

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Speaker 3: She obviously thought there was a fair chance. Maybe because

539
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Speaker 3: the jury was taking we're taking their time, she might

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Speaker 3: have thought there was a fair chance she was going

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Speaker 3: to get away with it. So what they did was

542
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Speaker 3: they had some workers go around to her house erect

543
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Speaker 3: some black plastic around it so that she could walk

544
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Speaker 3: in without the media seeing her. In the end, the

545
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Speaker 3: media didn't see her walking in because she didn't walk in.

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Speaker 3: Did she guilty? Ten Away from seven.

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Speaker 2: Heather Duplice Allen on the my casking Breakfast with the

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Speaker 2: land Rover Discovery News.

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Speaker 3: Tom dev Hither, they need to make that AI button complicated,

550
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Speaker 3: like an autopilot button that'll work. It's worked for us

551
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Speaker 3: in New Zealand to make that super complicated. Hither, when

552
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Speaker 3: you get given all your funds and then pay seventeen

553
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Speaker 3: percent tax, it's easy to run a business. So it's

554
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Speaker 3: no wonder the Mari economy is doing that well, tell

555
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Speaker 3: you what I mean this is, this is the misconception

556
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Speaker 3: that all MARII organizations don't pay don't pay any tax.

557
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Speaker 3: Some of them don't pay any tax obviously they're registered

558
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Speaker 3: as charities. Others do pay tax, and that would be

559
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Speaker 3: at a seventeen and a half percent rate. The lesson

560
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Speaker 3: in this is I think personally, I'm starting to come

561
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Speaker 3: around to the idea not that we lift the tax

562
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Speaker 3: rate from set for them from seventeen and a half

563
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Speaker 3: percent to twenty eight percent, but that we actually drop

564
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Speaker 3: the tax rate for everybody else in all the corporates,

565
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Speaker 3: because that way you're going to attract the overseas investment,

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Speaker 3: and that actually works quite well for us in the

567
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Speaker 3: long run as the entire economy. Don't you think if

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Speaker 3: it's working well at seventeen and a half percent for

569
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Speaker 3: the MARII economy, may well work well for everybody else

570
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Speaker 3: at the same level. As predicted yesterday that Wellington Hospital

571
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Speaker 3: plan to cut the maternity beds as copying huge, huge

572
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Speaker 3: amounts of heat. They had a meeting apparently yesterday are

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Speaker 3: staff meeting about it. It's been described as hostile. The

574
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Speaker 3: staff are resisting it. They say their mind is blown

575
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Speaker 3: at the suggestion that they would take maternity beds away.

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Speaker 3: They're up in arms, they're heated about it. What they're

577
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Speaker 3: worried about is that women, if you take out the beds,

578
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:18,959
Speaker 3: you're gonna have a shortage of times. It's not all

579
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Speaker 3: the time, right, because sometimes there's hardly anyone happen giving

580
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Speaker 3: birth in their next minute. Everybody's giving birth. But they're

581
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Speaker 3: worried they're gonna have women giving birth in hallways. You

582
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Speaker 3: don't need that. No one needs to see that, and

583
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Speaker 3: they don't need that to be seen. You're going to

584
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Speaker 3: have patients going through still births and they're going to

585
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Speaker 3: be next to mothers who are having live births, and

586
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Speaker 3: that's incredibly distressing for everybody. Are you going to have

587
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Speaker 3: people discharged before they're ready to leave? And so on it?

588
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Speaker 3: Remember remember this, when I found this out, freaked me out.

589
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Speaker 3: So I'm very glad I'm finished having babies now. But

590
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Speaker 3: the two most dangerous parts of your life are when

591
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Speaker 3: you're being born, done that and when you're giving birth.

592
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Speaker 3: Done that. So I'm okay now, But it's crazy if

593
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Speaker 3: it's dangerous time take away those beds. Don't you think

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Speaker 3: five away from seven.

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Speaker 1: All the inns are the outs.

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Speaker 2: It's the fears with business fiber take your business productivity

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Speaker 2: to the next level.

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Speaker 3: Right well, good news. The opportunities for buyers to get

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Speaker 3: into the housing market got slightly better in the last

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Speaker 3: three months. The qv House Price Index shows the averall

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Speaker 3: net average national home value fell zero point three percent

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Speaker 3: of the dune quarter. That puts the average value at

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Speaker 3: nine hundred and ten thousand dollars. That zero point six

604
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Speaker 3: percent lower than this time last year and fourteen and

605
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Speaker 3: a half percent below the market peak in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 3: It was the smaller markets that made the biggest house

607
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Speaker 3: price gains. You got wired Or up twelve point six percent,

608
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Speaker 3: Gore up eight point eight percent, Buller up six point

609
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Speaker 3: two percent, Far North up five point eight and y

610
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Speaker 3: Tumore up five point two So what have we got

611
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Speaker 3: for our main centers? Auckland unfortunately down yet again, one

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Speaker 3: percent down overall for the quarter and an average price

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Speaker 3: of one point two to three million. Ycuttle had a

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Speaker 3: slight increase of half a percentage points Toedunger and the

615
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Speaker 3: Bay of Plenty was flat, as was Napier Hastings up

616
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Speaker 3: zero point seven percent. Taranaki region continued its recent positive trend,

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Speaker 3: which is good. Wellington, you are still stuck in the

618
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Speaker 3: droll doldrums unfortunately, down two point three percent of the quarter,

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Speaker 3: down five point five percent of the year. West Coast

620
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Speaker 3: still going strong, up one point seven christ Jutge essentially flat.

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Speaker 3: Tiny increase the they did get that, but it means

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Speaker 3: they're only zero pour one percent lower than the nationwide

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Speaker 3: peak of twenty twenty one. Queen's Down on its way back,

624
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Speaker 3: up almost two percent for the quarter. So if the

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Speaker 3: average price in Queen's Down of one point eighty five

626
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Speaker 3: millar is too high, then you might be waiting a

627
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Speaker 3: bit longer to get yourself a bit of a place there,

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Speaker 3: I would imagine. Right next up, let's talk about this

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Speaker 3: family boost business. We're going to have a chat to

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Speaker 3: Early Childhood New Zealand just see how much we actually

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Speaker 3: do we actually I still do not have a satisfactory

632
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Speaker 3: answer on this. Do we need to be helping families

633
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Speaker 3: on two hundred and thirty thousand dollars to pay for

634
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Speaker 3: easy Year? I don't think so. And then also let's

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Speaker 3: find out how this tumped terriff confusion is going to

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Speaker 3: affect us newstalok zby.

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Speaker 2: The Breakfast Show, Kiwi's Trust to Stay in the Know

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Speaker 2: and the Duple c Ellen on the Mic Hosking break

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Speaker 2: first with al Vida, Retirement Communities, Life Your Way News Togs.

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Speaker 3: That'd be good morning to you. The government has made

641
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Speaker 3: significant changes to the Flagship Family Boost program. The income

642
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Speaker 3: threshold for eligibility will change from one hundred and eighty

643
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Speaker 3: thousand dollars, it'll go up to two hundred and thirty

644
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Speaker 3: thousand dollars, while the new maximum rebate will be forty percent,

645
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Speaker 3: up from twenty five percent. Kathy Wolf is the chief

646
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Speaker 3: executive of Early Childhood New Zealand. Morning Kathy more than Heather.

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Speaker 3: These change is going to make a difference.

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Speaker 17: They will definitely make a difference to another you know,

649
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Speaker 17: a few more families. Not a hell of a lot though,

650
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Speaker 17: so yeah, we'll have to see.

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Speaker 8: Not a lot.

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Speaker 3: You don't think the sixteen thousand families predicted.

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Speaker 17: No, I still think there's still too many barriers in

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Speaker 17: terms of access to their rebates.

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Speaker 3: Well, you think this is in terms of the people

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Speaker 3: collecting the invoices for three months and then filing it

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Speaker 3: after the fact.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, and also the fact that you know many of

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Speaker 17: these families who really need it still have to pay

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Speaker 17: the fees upfront and then came the rebates. And as

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Speaker 17: you say that, you know there's still challenges with was

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Speaker 17: the actual process of doing so.

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Speaker 3: Ah, So, Kathie, the biggest problem is still the admin

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Speaker 3: of this thing.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, correct.

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Speaker 3: Now, Look do you think of family earning up to

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Speaker 3: two hundred and thirty thousand dollars a year actually needs welfare?

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Speaker 17: It depends, Yeah, at the cost of living at the moment,

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Speaker 17: just as you know, it's just is just causing a

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Speaker 17: lot of challenges for my families. And whilst you know,

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Speaker 17: turning th DKP per family sounds a lot, they're still

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Speaker 17: you know, they're still with all the other cast of

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Speaker 17: their mortgages and all those kinds of things. So it definitely,

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Speaker 17: it definitely will help, will help families. We just really

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Speaker 17: hope that it is going to be excess. You know

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Speaker 17: that those extra sixteen thousand families will access the family

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Speaker 17: boost I mean for us and for our members because

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Speaker 17: the providers they help these families trying to access it.

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Speaker 17: So again, it's also creating more admin for early childhood services.

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Speaker 17: So for us, the better way to do something like

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Speaker 17: this is to really put it in the hands of

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Speaker 17: providers to help families, you know, a for the FeAs,

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Speaker 17: you know, give your fun if you invest in early

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Speaker 17: childhood more meaningfully. Which is the funding reviews coming? We

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Speaker 17: just think there's too many things out there for families

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Speaker 17: who have to move themselves around all these different what's

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Speaker 17: the word I'm looking for the funding things and rebates.

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Speaker 17: Whereas if they just have a very simplistic investment across

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Speaker 17: early childhood for families to actually high quality early childhood

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Speaker 17: would be much more meaningful for everybody.

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Speaker 3: Probably was a simpler way of doing it. Kathy, thank

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Speaker 3: you very much, appreciate it. Kathy Wolf, Chief Executive of

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Speaker 3: Early Childhood New Zealand.

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Speaker 1: It's ever do for thee Island.

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Speaker 3: Ten past seven. Now a bit of confusion over when

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Speaker 3: Trump's tariffs are going to kick in the ninety day

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Speaker 3: Pauls was supposed to end tomorrow. It now looks like

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Speaker 3: it's going to be August. One good thing is the

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Speaker 3: man in charge is clearing it all up for us.

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Speaker 12: Thank you.

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Speaker 14: Presidents.

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Speaker 5: Do the terriffreed change at all on July nights or

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Speaker 5: do they change on August?

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Speaker 8: Fern, what are you talking about?

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Speaker 18: Tariff Fred do they change on July ninth or August first?

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Speaker 11: They're going to be tariffs.

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Speaker 12: Gariffs, Ay're going to be the tariffs.

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Speaker 1: I think we have most countries done by July night.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well, good thing. The tariffs are going to

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Speaker 3: be the tariffs. Catherine Beard is the advocacy director for

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Speaker 3: Business New Zealand with US Morning. Catherine, Good morning. So

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Speaker 3: does it look to you like what's going to happen

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Speaker 3: is the letters go out this week and then the

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Speaker 3: tariffs kick in on the first of August.

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Speaker 19: Well it all sounds a bit confusing, doesn't it. So,

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Speaker 19: so the countries that he's trying to do deals with,

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Speaker 19: and I think i've seen Japan and South Korea mentioned,

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Speaker 19: you know, those will be kind of two way negotiations

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Speaker 19: and they'll be finished, I guess when they're finished, and

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Speaker 19: sometimes you know, those can be protracted, particularly if both

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Speaker 19: sides keep going for another round. In New Zealand situation,

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Speaker 19: I think we're just on a flat ten percent tariff,

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Speaker 19: which is sort of the default, and it's the lowest level,

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Speaker 19: so that's probably going to be less complicated and that

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Speaker 19: will arrive when it arrives. I think people were planning

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Speaker 19: for tomorrow. But who knows. It's one of those regimes,

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Speaker 19: isn't it where you wake up every morning and see

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Speaker 19: what the latest is.

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Speaker 3: Where are we at? We are we just taking are

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Speaker 3: we accepting the ten percent tariff? Or are we fighting it?

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Speaker 19: Look, I don't think there's any point in fighting it

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Speaker 19: because it is the lowest rate. So the main thing

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Speaker 19: for us is to have a level playing field. And

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Speaker 19: if that's the best rate going, then a little I

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Speaker 19: would say it's a quick country like New Zealand trying

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Speaker 19: to get into negotiation with a big country at the

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Speaker 19: United States. It's probably a David and Goliath m reystal

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Speaker 19: and it's probably not worth it, and.

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Speaker 3: We probably do not feature very high on the list

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Speaker 3: of priority countries for striking a deal.

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Speaker 19: Right, No, that's right. And look, if you get the

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Speaker 19: ten percent, you're considered to be a good trade partner, basically,

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Speaker 19: you know the narrative.

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Speaker 3: Catherine, By the way, what do you make of the

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Speaker 3: government looking at the bank's tax?

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Speaker 19: Yeah, look, I've just been reading about that in the

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Speaker 19: media like everyone else, and yeah, but amusing because I

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Speaker 19: was also reading I might have been in the Herald

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Speaker 19: this week. Who the biggest corporate tax payers were the

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Speaker 19: top ten and the banks were all in there, so

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Speaker 19: the paying a lot of tax already.

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Speaker 3: Yeah too, right, Catherine, thank you very much, appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Catherine Beard, Advocacy Director for Business New Zealand.

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Speaker 1: Heather Doopers the al for.

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Speaker 3: Reminder, John Bolton is going to be with us, as in,

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Speaker 3: former national security advisor is going to be with us

757
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Speaker 3: after half plus seven. He thinks the Iran Israel ceasefire

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Speaker 3: was a mistake and Trump should have kept going with

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Speaker 3: the bombs. So we'll have a chat to him about that. Listen,

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Speaker 3: have you been following this case of the crime rings,

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Speaker 3: the guys who have been brought in from overseas on

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Speaker 3: valid visas to babysit weed growing operations. This thing has

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Speaker 3: just blown out massively in terms of numbers. I think

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Speaker 3: it turns out now this is according to Immigration New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Turns out out that there are more than two hundred

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Speaker 3: people who've come into this country with valid work visas

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Speaker 3: who've then been linked to these companies that actually are inoperative.

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Speaker 3: The company's just a front, but behind the companies sit

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Speaker 3: these Vietnamese organized crime rings and they're operating out of

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Speaker 3: East Auckland in particular, and they bring these people in,

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Speaker 3: more than two hundred people, which I think is a

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Speaker 3: staggering number, bring them in and they basically have to

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Speaker 3: sit there and watch the weed grow. And they're nicking

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Speaker 3: their electricity from the neighbors houses of yours. If your

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Speaker 3: power bill's gone up massively, don't just assume that it's

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Speaker 3: a power power bill increase, like an energy cost. Much

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Speaker 3: of it, maybe, but maybe just have a closer look.

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Speaker 3: If the neighbors look like they're up to some funny stuff,

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Speaker 3: they reckon. They have now arrested dozens of people, They

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Speaker 3: have destroyed thousands of cannabis plants. They have deported a

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Speaker 3: bunch of Vietnamese nationals. But what's interesting about it, as

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Speaker 3: well as the numbers here, is that they reckon. It's

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Speaker 3: not just one organized crime ring, it's multiple who are

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Speaker 3: doing this. Seven fourteen, The.

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Speaker 2: Mic Asking Breakfast Fall Show pod on iHeartRadio, powered by

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Speaker 3: Fair to say fair few texts coming in on the

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Speaker 3: middle class welfare. We're going to get to it because

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Speaker 3: I'm yeah, yeah, I'm picking up what you're putting down,

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Speaker 3: So we'll get there shortly. Seventeen past seven. So after

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Speaker 3: a week of deliberating, we've got the verdict in the

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Speaker 3: mushroom chef case. Aaron Patterson was guilty of murdering her

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Speaker 3: three and laws and then guilty of the attempted murder

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Speaker 3: of the pastor Leslie Yeomans is Our Australia corresponding with

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Speaker 3: us now, hey Leslie, good morning, Heather. Given that she

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Speaker 3: was so emotionless in court when the verdict came out,

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Speaker 3: do you think she saw this coming?

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Speaker 20: Well, you would have to think that there was some

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Speaker 20: advice given to her by her legal team that this

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Speaker 20: was a strong possibility. Three people left dead and one

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Speaker 20: person who'd spent some time in hospital. The people who

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Speaker 20: were showing emotion though, were her friends who are outside court,

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Speaker 20: who was saying that they were going to stick by her.

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Speaker 20: But Aaron Patterson herself, she must have been aware that

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Speaker 20: this was not going to look very good.

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Speaker 3: Why did jury take so long?

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Speaker 20: Do you think, Well, there was a lot to get through.

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Speaker 20: I guess after a ten week trial there were around

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Speaker 20: fifty prosecution witnesses that they had to get through. There

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Speaker 20: was a lot of evidence for them to be sort

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Speaker 20: of reviewing and going over the fact that the fact

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Speaker 20: that Aaron Patterson had lied about things like the food

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Speaker 20: dehydrated that she'd purchased and then had disposed of. There

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Speaker 20: was footage of her at the waste disposal center of

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Speaker 20: the tip where she was disposing of that but had

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Speaker 20: told had told authorities that she'd never had one of

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Speaker 20: those things. There was the fact that also that the

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Speaker 20: recipe that she'd used for that beef wellington, that she'd

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Speaker 20: actually deviated from the recipe and she'd made individual small

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Speaker 20: beef wellingtons rather than go with the resci as a whole,

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Speaker 20: and she'd serve them up on different colored plates when

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Speaker 20: she was serving that meal. So there was a lot

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Speaker 20: of sort of a lot of detail for them, I guess,

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Speaker 20: to get through before they had to before they had

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Speaker 20: to sort of reach that verdict.

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Speaker 3: What's the possible sentence for her?

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Speaker 20: Possible sentence is life?

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Speaker 3: How long is that Lifely?

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Speaker 20: Look at three people are deceased and there's one attempted murder.

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Speaker 20: So I don't know, to be honest with you. Life

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Speaker 20: could be, you know, fifty plus years, it could be twenty.

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Speaker 20: Who knows. That would be up to the sentencing judge.

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Speaker 20: She'll be back in court possibly at the end of

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Speaker 20: the year for that pre sentence hearing. But she's got

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Speaker 20: twenty eight days or illegal team's got twenty eight days

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Speaker 20: to appeal the verdict. So we'll just have to wait

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Speaker 20: for the next month or so to see if they're

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Speaker 20: actually going to an appeal, which you would likely sort

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Speaker 20: of assume that that would be what would happen.

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Speaker 3: Leslie. It's very good to talk to you. I really

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Speaker 3: appreciated Leslie Yeoman's Australia correspondent. I'm not sure if this

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Speaker 3: is true or not, but it is being reported. I'm

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Speaker 3: going to tell full disclosure. It's being reported by the

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Speaker 3: Daily Mail. That's why I'm saying I'm not sure, okay,

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Speaker 3: but this is what is being reported apparently on who.

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Speaker 3: She's been kept at the Dame Phyllis Frost Center in

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Speaker 3: Melbourne's West and on her weekly trips back there, quote

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Speaker 3: Patterson had come to loathe the chicken Cutchia Tory meals

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Speaker 3: provided to her because the dish had mushrooms in it,

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Speaker 3: which is a nice little twist of irony. If it's true.

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Speaker 2: Seven twenty the Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 11: I'd be.

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Speaker 3: It's seven twenty three. Now listen, let's talk about what's

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Speaker 3: going on here, okay, with the citizens arrest. If you

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Speaker 3: listen to parenting experts, you can hear the same thing

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Speaker 3: time and time and time again about raising kids properly.

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Speaker 3: Kids need but just as important, and someone actually say

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Speaker 3: more important, they need boundaries. They need to be told no,

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Speaker 3: They need to be disciplined, They need to learn what

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Speaker 3: they can and cannot do, and if you don't do

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Speaker 3: that properly as their parents, you basically ruin their chances

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Speaker 3: at success later in life. Now, bear that in mind

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Speaker 3: when you hear people like the Children's Commissioner arguing that

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Speaker 3: kids should be off limits on citizens arrests, because, of course,

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Speaker 3: at the moment what is happening, the government is proposing

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Speaker 3: a law change to allow retailers or security guards or

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Speaker 3: even you and I if we want to, to hold

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Speaker 3: a shoplifter in a citizen's arrest until the cops can

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Speaker 3: get their intake over. Now, the Children's Commissioner is well

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Speaker 3: meaning because she doesn't want kids hurt, because these things

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Speaker 3: can go badly, especially if you've got the worst case

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Speaker 3: scenario playing out like we have seen, which is where

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Speaker 3: you've got weapons involved. You've got the kids turning up

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Speaker 3: armed with hammers and knives and so on to raid

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Speaker 3: a store. Now, while the Children's commissioner means well, though,

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Speaker 3: she is wrong because a loophole like that that says

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Speaker 3: adults can be held down but kids can't, will be exploited,

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Speaker 3: and it will be exploited by adults. Gangs already use

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Speaker 3: kids to commit their own rates. They already use them

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Speaker 3: to commit their thefts because they know that kids get

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Speaker 3: off more likely than they would. If you make a

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Speaker 3: rule that kids are allowed to escape but adult adults

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Speaker 3: get held down, you only make it more likely that

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Speaker 3: they do. Send the kids in, thereby making it more

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Speaker 3: likely that the kids up. Kids end up ruining their

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Speaker 3: life's chances, which brings us back to the very start

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Speaker 3: of what I was saying. Kids need boundaries, and it's

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Speaker 3: not just from their parents, it's also from the state.

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Speaker 3: So if we do citizens arrests for the adult crims,

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Speaker 3: we also have to do citizens arrest for the kiddie crims.

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Speaker 1: Heather Duplessy Allen Heather.

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Speaker 3: New Zealanders broke has serious issues. Why are we handing

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Speaker 3: out even more taxpayers money to rich people? To assist

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Speaker 3: them in raising their kids. Heather, There's no way that

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Speaker 3: a family should be on welfare when they're earning two

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Speaker 3: hundred and thirty thousand dollars a year. It's ridiculous. It's

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Speaker 3: no wonder the country's broke, Heather. If you're earning two

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Speaker 3: hundred and thirty thousand dollars a year and you need

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Speaker 3: help with childcare, what hope is there for the rest

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Speaker 3: of us on an eighty thousand dollar budget? Hither, I

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Speaker 3: reckon we've reached peak lunatic welfare state for giving handouts

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Speaker 3: for families earning two hundred thousand dollar plus, also using

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Speaker 3: borrowed money. We now have a record government borrowing which

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Speaker 3: is heading towards three hundred and fifty billion dollars in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty nine. This ends very badly, Grant, thank you

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Speaker 3: for that.

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Speaker 14: Look.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad. I'm absolutely thrilled to be backed up in

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Speaker 3: this position, because I do think that two hundred and

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Speaker 3: thirty thousand dollars seems an extreme amount of money to

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Speaker 3: be putting a family on welfare. But this brings me

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Speaker 3: back to my argument about superannuation, which is a drum

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Speaker 3: that I'm going to beat as far as long and

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Speaker 3: as loud as I can. You cannot take away superannuation

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Speaker 3: from people who actually are expecting it until you deal

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Speaker 3: with this kind of nonsense right there, because the point

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Speaker 3: of trying to trim the super budget is basically to

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Speaker 3: get away from all of that spending. There is a

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Speaker 3: lot more spending there we can start dealing with first

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Speaker 3: before we start dealing with super. So when you take

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Speaker 3: away welfare from wealthy families, we're helping them with the childcare.

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Speaker 3: When you start taking that away, then you can come

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Speaker 3: and talk to me about taking away the superannuation. By

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Speaker 3: the way, there's been a bit of chat about whether

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Speaker 3: Jacinda should be back in the country for the COVID inquiry. Now,

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Speaker 3: I mean, of course, of course she should, mainly because

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Speaker 3: it's a Royal Commission of Inquiry and she herself knows

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Speaker 3: how important these things are. You'll remember when she announced

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Speaker 3: the abuse the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse and

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Speaker 3: Stake Care, she said, this is a chance to confront

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Speaker 3: our history and make sure we don't make the same

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Speaker 3: mistakes again. You could say the very same thing of

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Speaker 3: the COVID inquiry. This is a chance to confront our

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Speaker 3: history and make sure we don't make the same mistakes again.

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Speaker 3: So I would expect her to come back. However, I

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Speaker 3: do not think that she is going to be coming

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Speaker 3: back anytime soon. I don't know if you've seen it,

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Speaker 3: but she's got an interview in the Australian Women's Weekly

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Speaker 3: out Weekly, which is out this month. If you want

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Speaker 3: to spend your dollars on it, it's not bad. Actually

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Speaker 3: it gives you a bit of an insight, but it

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Speaker 3: makes the point. I mean, you read that article, you

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Speaker 3: will come away with the impression that Jacinda and Clark

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Speaker 3: and the family are staying in Boston for a very

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Speaker 3: long time. It makes the point she went over for

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Speaker 3: three months, they've been there for two years, she says.

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Speaker 3: She basically says New Zealand will always be home. But

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Speaker 3: you know, we really do like it here. I get

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Speaker 3: to meet amazing and interesting people. We've made some lovely friends,

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Speaker 3: live in an area with lots of kids. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's just been easy and I suspect that is how

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Speaker 3: it will stay. And the Inquiryisinda will not be there.

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Speaker 3: Middle East leaders will be watching today because Donald Trump

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Speaker 8: Now, Morning, John, Good afternoon.

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Speaker 21: I'm glad to be with you.

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Speaker 3: Do you hold any hopes for those negotiations between Israel

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Speaker 3: and Hamas on the way at the moment?

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Speaker 21: Well, I don't think so, although the meeting between Netanyahu

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Speaker 21: a Trump, which will be later in the afternoon here

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Speaker 21: on Monday, Washington time, could tell us something. But Hamas's

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Speaker 21: objectives are to get Israel out of Gods entirely. Israel's

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Speaker 21: objectives are to destroy Hamas as a military and political force.

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Speaker 21: There's no compromise there.

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Speaker 3: Do you think Israel's objectives now also include clearing the

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Speaker 3: place out?

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Speaker 21: Well, I think it's moving in that direction, and I

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Speaker 21: think It really requires everybody who's concerned to think about

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Speaker 21: what we're going to do with the guys in population.

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Speaker 21: I think rebuilding a high rise refugee camp wouldn't solve anything.

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Speaker 21: It would just lay the basis for a new October.

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Speaker 21: The seventh and perhaps ten percent of the guys in

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Speaker 21: population has already exited the Gaza strip. That means there's

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Speaker 21: a long way to go. But I think I think

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Speaker 21: we have to be thinking about from a humanitarian point

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Speaker 21: of view, what's the best place for the gods to go?

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Speaker 3: What do you think the best place is not Gaza.

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Speaker 21: Well, I think there's never going to be a two

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Speaker 21: state solution after October seven. I think people need to

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Speaker 21: abandon that dream and to think what is the best

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Speaker 21: thing for the people of Gaza and their children. And

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Speaker 21: you know, the UN High Commissioner for Refugees has never

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Speaker 21: forcibly repatriated anybody anywhere. But there are also no permanent

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Speaker 21: High Commissioner for Refugees refugee camps, and I think if

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Speaker 21: they were put in charge of the situation rather than UNRA,

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Speaker 21: which is the UN agencies that's been dealing with the

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Speaker 21: Palestinians since nineteen forty eight, that there might be a

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Speaker 21: better chance for a humane solution for the Gazan people.

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Speaker 3: Where would you take them if you took them elsewhere?

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Speaker 21: Well, I think it's going to take a period of

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Speaker 21: time to decide where they go. I think Egypt is

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Speaker 21: very concerned that a lot of the people in Gaza

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Speaker 21: are still Hamas. They regard. The Egyptians regards Hamas correctly

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Speaker 21: is a subsidiary of the Muslim Brotherhood, which they had

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Speaker 21: to deal with in Egypt. That's part of the problem.

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Speaker 21: This Hamas domination in Gaza has been a curse to

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Speaker 21: the gas And people, and we're going to have to

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Speaker 21: think about ways to deal with that before they can

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Speaker 21: be humanely resettled.

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Speaker 3: Could they go to the West Bank?

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Speaker 21: Well, I think that's a possibility, but you'd have to

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Speaker 21: work that out between Jordan and Israel. I think in

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Speaker 21: addition to Egypt, which after all has a population of

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Speaker 21: ninety million, there are a number of other countries where

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Speaker 21: they could go if they if their safety can be guaranteed,

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Speaker 21: and if they're not going to carry the Hamas ideology

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Speaker 21: with them.

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Speaker 3: John, if a Tuesday solution is no longer viable, what's

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Speaker 3: the next best solution?

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Speaker 21: Well, I think you have to treat the problem of

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Speaker 21: Gaza separately from the problem of the West Bank, and

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Speaker 21: there are changes happening on the West Bank now. The

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Speaker 21: Wall Street Journal reported this morning in the US that

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Speaker 21: a number of shakes from the Hebron region want to

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Speaker 21: be done with the Palestinian authority. They want to deal

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Speaker 21: with they and their tribes want to deal with Israel independently.

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Speaker 21: There's a lot of changing going on in the Middle

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Speaker 21: East now, and I think people need to catch up

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Speaker 21: with it. I think if you look at the West

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Speaker 21: Bank as a separate problem, there's a better chance for

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Speaker 21: Israel and Jordan to work out some kind of relationship

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Speaker 21: that would give everybody something that would satisfy them.

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Speaker 3: Why do you think the Israel Iran ceasepy was a mistake.

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Speaker 21: Because I don't think President Trump's statement about total obliteration

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Speaker 21: to the contrary. Notwithstanding the job was done. I think

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Speaker 21: the combined Israeli US airstrikes did an awful lot of

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Speaker 21: damage to the program, but it's a complex operation and

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Speaker 21: there's still a lot more to be done to save

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Speaker 21: really the world from this threat of nuclear proliferation. Iran

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Speaker 21: is not just an Israeli problem. It's an American problem,

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Speaker 21: it's a problem for everybody that doesn't want to see

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Speaker 21: the spread of nuclear weapons, because that's what the iotolas

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Speaker 21: are aiming at.

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Speaker 3: Do you basically think that they were they were so

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Speaker 3: significantly damaged that they had an Iran no option, but

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Speaker 3: a ceasefire. So actually, when you have them at that point,

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Speaker 3: you should you should just keep going.

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Speaker 21: I think absolutely we should keep going. The more damage

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Speaker 21: you inflict, the harder it is for them to get

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Speaker 21: the nuclear program up and running again, and the safer

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Speaker 21: the world is from this threat of nuclear proliferation.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that Pete hig Sifth knows what he's doing?

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Speaker 21: Not particularly. I mean, I think he is still in

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Speaker 21: jeopardy of losing his job as Secretary of Defense. He

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Speaker 21: may have moved to second place in the next in

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Speaker 21: the category of next departure from the administration, and maybe

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Speaker 21: Telsey Gabbard, the Director of National Intelligence, has replaced him.

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Speaker 21: But I think Haig Seth's job is still in jeopardy.

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Speaker 3: And so what Trump's just keeping an eye on him?

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Speaker 21: Well, I think he's waiting for an opportune moment. Trump

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Speaker 21: hates to admit that he's made a bad decision, although

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Speaker 21: he's made a lot of them. So maybe it will

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Speaker 21: be in August, when Congress goes in recess and it's

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Speaker 21: very hot and humid in Washington and the media take

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Speaker 21: their vacations, maybe both Gabbard and Hegseeth go in August.

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Speaker 3: Interesting. Okay, look the meeting today which you mentioned at

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Speaker 3: the stop BB and Trump. What do you think we

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Speaker 3: get out of this?

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Speaker 11: Well?

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Speaker 21: I think they are going to be two big subjects.

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Speaker 21: One is Iran and the nuclear weapons program and whether

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Speaker 21: the Ayatolas should be allowed to remain in power. The

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Speaker 21: other is Gaza. I think Trump really really wants a

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Speaker 21: Nobel Peace Prize, and he's decided, having failed to bring

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Speaker 21: peace between Ukraine and Russia, maybe this is the place

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Speaker 21: to get it. So I think there could be some

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Speaker 21: pretty tough discussions at this dinner.

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Speaker 3: John, listen, thank you very much for your time to

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Speaker 3: appreciate It is John Bolton, former National Security Advisor. Sixteen

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Speaker 3: By the way, if you've been following that Wrexham game

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00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,399
Speaker 3: that's going to be in Wellington and you were hoping

1087
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:13,959
Speaker 3: to go. You need to get your wriggle on because

1088
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 3: it looks like accommodation is if not booked out, already

1089
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 3: close to anyway, We're going to check in with Wellington,

1090
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 3: New Zealand shortly. Just get the latest on that Heather.

1091
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,240
Speaker 3: There is always zoom for justinder. She needs to answer

1092
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 3: for the shambles. Look or could time zone? You know,

1093
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 3: I'm sure we can come up with an excuse for

1094
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 3: not to do that. Now. This is Look if you're

1095
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 3: getting ready for work today and you're thinking, geez, I

1096
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 3: need a break. I wish I didn't have to keep

1097
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,359
Speaker 3: This is going to rip your nighty. We all need

1098
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 3: jobs at the Reserve Bank because when you work for

1099
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 3: the Reserve Bank, life is sweet. Have a listen to this.

1100
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 3: At the Reserve Bank, when you sign a little contract

1101
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 3: to go and work there, it's not like you and

1102
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,720
Speaker 3: I we get four weeks and your leave as a standard,

1103
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 3: they get five weeks. They start. They start at five weeks.

1104
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 3: That is the absolute low. So you go work at

1105
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 3: the Reserve Bank. You got yourself five weeks and you'll leave.

1106
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 3: But you can add to that. You can also get

1107
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 3: yourself another three weeks. You can buy it. So what

1108
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 3: you need to do is you use two percent of

1109
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 3: your pay and then you buy yourself another three weeks

1110
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 3: and you will leave. That is a bargain because three

1111
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 3: weeks is actually equivalent to equivalent to six weeks six

1112
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 3: percent of you year's work, So it should be equivalent

1113
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 3: to six percent of your income. So if you're buying

1114
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 3: six percent of your you're buying with two percent, you're

1115
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 3: buying six percent worth of leave for two percent. Numbers

1116
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 3: are not my strength, you can tell, but you follow

1117
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Right, You're getting six percent for the

1118
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,439
Speaker 3: pay of two percent. That is a bargain. That's bye

1119
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 3: bye bye. And by the way, I need to say

1120
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 3: thank you to the Taxpayers Union for digging these numbers up.

1121
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 3: So you get yourself your five weeks and you add

1122
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 3: to it your three weeks that you've just bought at

1123
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 3: a bargain rate, at a warehouse style bargain rate. You've

1124
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 3: now got yourself eight weeks and you'll leave. But then

1125
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 3: they give you at the Reserve Bank, because they don't

1126
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 3: feel like that's enough, then they give you a standard

1127
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 3: fifteen days worth of wellness leave every single year quote

1128
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 3: for when you need to recover, re energize or rest

1129
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 3: as if that's not what the weekend is for. Now

1130
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 3: you get yourself eight weeks plus fifteen days. There's another

1131
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 3: three weeks. You've got yourself eleven weeks of annual leave

1132
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 3: so that you can go and rest. Then, of course

1133
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 3: I'm assuming that they get the two weeks worth of

1134
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 3: sickly the ten days that the rest of us get.

1135
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 3: And so I'm assuming that if you're at the Reserve

1136
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 3: Bank now you're really in, you're really into this kind

1137
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 3: of that you've got the momentum going of needing to

1138
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 3: re energize and rest. You're going to use up those

1139
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 3: ten days sick leave, aren't you. You're just gonna be

1140
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 3: like child's got chicken pox. Yep, got to stay home. Yeah,

1141
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 3: oh look, I've got a snotty nose. No, I don't

1142
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 3: want to make you sick. I've got to stay over.

1143
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 3: So by the time you've used up all of this,

1144
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 3: you've got yourself thirteen weeks of leave that you can

1145
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 3: take at the Reserve Bank. That's fully a quarter of

1146
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 3: the year that you don't have to work. That's a

1147
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 3: pretty sweet package. But it does not end there, because

1148
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 3: then with the remaining three quarters of the year that

1149
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 3: you may you may want to turn up, but you're

1150
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 3: now legally obliged to turn up for three quarters of

1151
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 3: the year. You can work at home, and most employees

1152
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 3: do actually do this at the Reserve Bank, at least

1153
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 3: one day a week at home. They are taking the

1154
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 3: vast majority. They got six hundred and fifty people who

1155
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 3: work there. Four to fifty five of them do at

1156
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 3: least one day a week at home, so that's seventy percent.

1157
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 3: So that's most of you.

1158
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 11: Right.

1159
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 3: So then if you decide, a cow, I need to

1160
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 3: work from home, they don't want you to just be

1161
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 3: sitting on the couch and getting you know, bag baddie

1162
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 3: cannot ergonomics, getting yourself a little hunch and like, I

1163
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 3: don't know, some carpal tunnel. So they say, we'll give

1164
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 3: you eight hundred bucks. You can set up your home

1165
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 3: office by yourself, a nice little light, nice little desk,

1166
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 3: maybe a reclining chair or something baggin'. So they have

1167
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 3: paid out fifty nine thousand dollars in home equipment because

1168
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 3: everybody's onto this racket, and they've paid five hundred and

1169
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 3: thirty five thousand dollars just making sure that you're going

1170
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 3: to the gym at the Reserve Bank, a little bit

1171
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 3: of a little bit of wellness reimbursement and so on.

1172
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 3: So as you get yourself ready for work today, you

1173
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 3: need to be asking this question, should I relocate to

1174
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 3: Wellington and work for the Reserve Bank, because we're all

1175
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 3: asking that question a.

1176
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 8: Well, actually, because you've shown that you can't do numbers.

1177
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 3: So it's I don't think that. But they also they

1178
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 3: have positions for people who identify as trees. I will

1179
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 3: be doing that at the Reserve Bank, and you can

1180
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 3: just does this not go some of the way to

1181
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 3: explaining why Adrian all was desperate for that funding boost

1182
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 3: from Nikola Willer, so desperate that he quit because otherwise

1183
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 3: how is he going to pay for all of this nonsense?

1184
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 3: Nine away from eight.

1185
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 2: Heather duper c Allen on the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

1186
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 2: Bailey's real estate news dog, zib.

1187
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 3: Heather, you've forgot the stat days. You can add another

1188
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 3: two weeks on for that, jeez. Thanks. Definitely, it's becoming

1189
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 3: more and more attractive, isn't it. Six away from eight

1190
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 3: Now some great news for Wellington anyone who loves football

1191
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 3: as well. It looks like that Wrexham game later this

1192
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 3: month is going to go off. Data from Booking dot

1193
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 3: Com show searches for Wellington Accommodation have jumped six hundred percent.

1194
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 3: Heidi Moulton is Wellington and Z's Events and Experience as

1195
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 3: general manager and with us. Hey Heidi, Hey, Heather, how

1196
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 3: are you? I'm very well? How good is this looking

1197
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 3: to you?

1198
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 7: Oh?

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00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 22: What a fantastic statistic. Isn't it amazing to see the

1200
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 22: number of people that are wanted to come to Wellington.

1201
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 22: I mean, we've got two fantastic weekends coming ahead. We've

1202
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,280
Speaker 22: got a soul out All Blacks and Black Ferom's double

1203
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 22: hitter this weekend and then rerex on the following weekend.

1204
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,479
Speaker 22: So there's a lot going on in Wellington for people

1205
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 22: to come and see.

1206
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 3: When was the last time that Wellington was the most

1207
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 3: searched winter destination, beating beating Queenstown.

1208
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 22: I know I had to double read that to make

1209
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 22: sure that that was actually true, but yeah, I can't

1210
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 22: I can't remember when that.

1211
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 17: Was the case.

1212
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 22: But I think, you know, Wellington offers a great opportunity

1213
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 22: for a unique destination that's perhaps not you know, going

1214
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 22: for a week in the snow, So that's fantastic.

1215
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, you still get the cold day, you get that

1216
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 3: into that lovely cold without having to actually deal with

1217
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 3: the crispy white stuff. Thckon there are any rooms available?

1218
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 5: Oh?

1219
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 22: Absolutely, there's still rooms available and there's still tickets available

1220
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 22: for the Wrexham match. So we're open for business and

1221
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,919
Speaker 22: we'd love to see some more people come for that game.

1222
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 3: And then what do you reckon? Just give us a

1223
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 3: quick rundown if you come for the Wrexham game. What

1224
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 3: else did you go do?

1225
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 22: Oh, there's a lot going on. Obviously, Wellington's really walkable

1226
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 22: and there's easy access to the stadium for Wrexham, there'll

1227
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 22: be light installations down on the waterfront. My favorite bakery

1228
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 22: Volco Bakery and Wellington or Cog for dinner. There's certainly

1229
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 22: you know, the cable car to Papas the land he

1230
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 22: of the zoo. I mean there's plenty to keep everyone

1231
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 22: busy if they come for a weekend in Wellington.

1232
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 3: There's times have changed since I live there. I don't

1233
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 3: know either of those places, Heidi, Thank you, Heidi. Molton

1234
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 3: Wellington and z Events and experience. As general manager, do

1235
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 3: you know what you need to do if you go

1236
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 3: down for that, just talk about light installation. You need

1237
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 3: to go look at those disco toilets, because that's the

1238
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 3: first thing I'd be doing. If I was going to

1239
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 3: Wellington anytime soon, I'd land the plane. Well they would.

1240
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 3: I wouldn't land the plane, obviously that would be a disaster.

1241
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 3: They would land the plane. I'd jump off the plane.

1242
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 3: I'd get in an uber and I'd say, take me

1243
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 3: to the disco toilets immediately. I need to go and

1244
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 3: look why toilets cost two point three million dollars. Bill

1245
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 3: Bailey is going to be with us shortly. Bill Bailey

1246
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 3: is the comedian, you know, the one who always looks

1247
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 3: like Shakespeare. The Shakespearean vibe about him, isn't there sort

1248
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 3: of got that kind of like little goaty in the

1249
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 3: kind of mental hair. Every time he comes here he

1250
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 3: sells out, and it's probably not going to be any

1251
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 3: different when he comes with his vaudevillion tour later in

1252
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 3: the year. We're going to have a chat to him.

1253
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 3: And also Ambos. We need to talk about ambos because

1254
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 3: I'm starting to get to the point where I think

1255
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 3: you may have to be your own ambo. If somebody

1256
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:27,439
Speaker 3: in your family fall sick. Heather, don't forget to add

1257
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 3: maternity leave to that list as well. Yeah, well there

1258
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 3: you go, go work at the Reserve Bank just before

1259
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 3: you have a baby. You never have to go to

1260
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 3: work again. News talks, he'd be.

1261
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 2: The news and the newsmakers, Heather duples Hellen on the

1262
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 2: Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real estate all together better

1263
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 2: across residential, commercial and rural news talks, he'd be.

1264
00:59:58,680 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 11: Right.

1265
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 3: Seven past eight. Zealand cannot get enough of Bill Bailey.

1266
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 3: After selling out when he last toured here all the

1267
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 3: way back in twenty twenty three, he's bringing a new

1268
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 3: tour back to the country near the end of this year.

1269
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 3: It's called Boordavillion and he's going all over the place

1270
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 3: around the country. The show is described as a celebration

1271
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 3: of comedy, songs and skills Bill Bailey, Good morning, lovely

1272
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 3: to talk with you.

1273
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 11: Hello there, and you also now you.

1274
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 3: Have been there's been a couple of years since you've

1275
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 3: been in New Zealand. You look like you've been really busy,

1276
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 3: have you.

1277
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 23: Yes, I have, And I mean I'm always busy. I'm

1278
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 23: always doing something because I like to be busy, and

1279
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 23: so I was trying to find something meaningful to do. So, yeah,

1280
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 23: the last couple of years, I've been making TV programs,

1281
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 23: touring the world, writing books, usual sort of thing.

1282
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, are you an active relaxer?

1283
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 15: Are you?

1284
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 11: But I like, yeah, I think so.

1285
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 23: I tend to sort of feel nervous if I'm not

1286
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 23: doing something. So if I'm doing one project, always try

1287
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 23: and get it to overlap something else. And I do

1288
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 23: tend to find that they do sort of, you know,

1289
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 23: tend to one. Well, we'll kind of sort of start

1290
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 23: to cross pollinate a little bit, you know something, there's

1291
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 23: there'll be an element of one project which you can

1292
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 23: use in another project. So I think they all kind

1293
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 23: of tend to blur together after a while and blend together.

1294
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 11: And that's good. I love to be busy, you know.

1295
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 23: I just I find I kind of get nervous. I

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Speaker 23: get reckless if I'm not doing something.

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Speaker 3: Why do you think that is?

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Speaker 24: I'm asking you this because Bill, I experienced exactly the

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Speaker 24: same thing, and I found that the only way to

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Speaker 24: stop myself doing this is literally put myself in a bath.

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Speaker 24: Because you can't get you're forced to sort of sit

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Speaker 24: there and enjoy the thing.

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Speaker 23: Oh did you sorry, did you say bath or bar?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean a bar works as well, but at

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Speaker 3: home about.

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Speaker 23: I was going to take that would work equally for me.

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Speaker 23: But but yes, I know what you mean. You have

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Speaker 23: to sort of like actually program in a little bit

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Speaker 23: of time where you just do nothing. Yeah, and what

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Speaker 23: my my sort of go to is puzzles, and I

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Speaker 23: do the spelling Bee every day. It's it's part of

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Speaker 23: the puzzle on New York Times website, and I try

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Speaker 23: and sort of do That's my kind of moment where

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Speaker 23: I just zone everything out and I just concentrate on

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Speaker 23: that for a bit.

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Speaker 3: I don't believe I don't do the spelling I don't

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Speaker 3: do the spelling Bee because it costs money and I'm

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Speaker 3: too tight to pay for it, so I just do

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Speaker 3: the many crossword in the world.

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Speaker 11: Ah, yes, yes, that's true. Now, you're right. Yeah, you

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Speaker 11: do have to have a subscription for that. But I

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Speaker 11: mean I do.

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Speaker 23: I like the New York Times, so I'm kind of

1324
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 23: it's a bit of a bonus, you know, you get.

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Speaker 23: I like the journalism, but I also, yeah, the bone

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Speaker 23: the spelling Bee is my is my go to, and

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Speaker 23: I get a bit obsessed about it, and I actually

1328
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Speaker 23: start asking random people do you know a seven letter

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Speaker 23: word that starts with al that means this? You know,

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Speaker 23: and then just taxi drivers, you know, opt them into it.

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Speaker 23: But yeah, I think so, I mean, I think that's

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Speaker 23: I've always been like that since I was a kid.

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Speaker 23: Even when I was at school, I'd always be doing

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Speaker 23: the school play and also playing in the cricket team

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Speaker 23: and also doing something else. So I kind of think

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Speaker 23: that's really been a pattern of my life since childhood,

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Speaker 23: which I guess, you know, once once the patent takes hold,

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Speaker 23: that's it, you know, we're cooked.

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Speaker 3: While we're on the subject of technology, are you asn't

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Speaker 3: ai as I am?

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Speaker 23: Yeah, I'm kind of fascinated by it because, like I

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Speaker 23: am with any new thing, you know, I always thought

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Speaker 23: sort of, you know, try to avoid any sort of

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Speaker 23: sense of like, oh, you know, things are better.

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Speaker 11: In the old days, you know, and.

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Speaker 23: It's all gone to part There is an element of saying, well, no,

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Speaker 23: we actually live in a time where where technology has

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Speaker 23: improved the lives of millions of people, so why wouldn't

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Speaker 23: this do that? Also, And I'm slightly fascinated by the

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Speaker 23: kind of how it's come on in leaps and bounds,

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Speaker 23: and you know, the visual element of it. I mean,

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Speaker 23: I do explore it a little bit I have done

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Speaker 23: in the last show. I would say though, that, you know,

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Speaker 23: in terms of an artistic process and certainly performing, there's

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Speaker 23: something about live performing where you interact with an audience

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Speaker 23: which can't ever be replicated.

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Speaker 11: I don't think I think that's that's in a.

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Speaker 23: Way, in a way, I suppose I'm sort of I

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Speaker 23: feel kind of slightly relieved by that in a way,

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Speaker 23: and also an obligation to keep performing in a way,

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Speaker 23: because I think there'll be a time, won't there shall

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Speaker 23: shall we know, Let's imagine a time in the future

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Speaker 23: when when you say scripts are written by a computer

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Speaker 23: chat gbt ai ai does a rendition of actors performing lines,

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Speaker 23: and I mean, you know, I mean you see, I mean,

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Speaker 23: it's not beyond the realm of possibility.

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Speaker 11: Is it that?

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Speaker 23: You know, recorded entertainment might be computerized, but there's nothing

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Speaker 23: that can replicate that moment, that sort of spark between

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Speaker 23: an audience and a performer in a live context. And

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Speaker 23: so I sort of feel almost like it's something I

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Speaker 23: will continue to do and probably sort of to a

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Speaker 23: point where I want to concentrate. I want to almost

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Speaker 23: accentuate that that I want to focus on. I want

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Speaker 23: to make a virtue of the fact that it's that

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Speaker 23: there is this bond between an audience or performer which

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Speaker 23: doesn't exist.

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Speaker 11: You know, it can't be replicated.

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Speaker 3: Bill, listen, let's leave it there and come back to you,

1380
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Speaker 3: and just to take Bill Bailey right now, it's twelve past.

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Speaker 2: Day the Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio

1382
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Speaker 2: Howard By News Talks.

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Speaker 3: It be all right, we'll beck with Bill Bailey. Bill,

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Speaker 3: you know, on the subject of AI, I reckon what

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Speaker 3: we've lost through the smartphone is human interaction. You know,

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Speaker 3: where you see a family sitting around, everyone's on a smartphone.

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Speaker 3: They're not talking to each other. Is it possible? Actually

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Speaker 3: though that the further we go down this road where

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Speaker 3: we realize how many of our tasks can be replicated

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Speaker 3: by AI, which you start to value again the face

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Speaker 3: to face and the interaction.

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Speaker 23: Yes, I do actually think that's true. And I think

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Speaker 23: that I've noticed this other forms as well. Like one

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Speaker 23: of the programs I've been making in the last few

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Speaker 23: years is about traditional craft, which is something which i've

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Speaker 23: always been interested because my grandfather was a Stonemason, and

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Speaker 23: so I've always had a love for that, for things

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Speaker 23: that people can make things, you know, and during in

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Speaker 23: fact from but I think very sort of about five

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Speaker 23: years ago, when we were all incarcerated indoors we can

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Speaker 23: go out, people started to make things and film it

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Speaker 23: and then post it online and this became hugely popular,

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Speaker 23: and then it became enormously sort of shared viraly on

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Speaker 23: TikTok and so on. And so what I've discovered is

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Speaker 23: that now there is a resurgence in those sort of things,

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Speaker 23: almost like slow entertainment, you know, more there's a bit

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Speaker 23: more value intrinsically in it than something which is just a.

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Speaker 11: Kind of.

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Speaker 23: Immediate, you know, sort of gratification that happens, you know,

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Speaker 23: in a minute thirty from a video or some kind

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Speaker 23: of sketch. There's something a bit more a value of that,

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Speaker 23: and I think that there is genuinely a kind of

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Speaker 23: people recognizing the value in their live performance.

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Speaker 11: And that's that's replicated.

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Speaker 23: I mean, it's it's indicated by numbers of people going

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Speaker 23: to see shows. I mean there's like shows in London,

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Speaker 23: but that Western shows record numbers of people going to

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Speaker 23: see shows, record numbers of people that are going to

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Speaker 23: see live concerts, music concerts, comedy concerts. You know that

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Speaker 23: it's almost like people are genuinely craving this, seeking out

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Speaker 23: something which you can't really get in any other form.

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Speaker 3: Is that why you and I've noticed this with other

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Speaker 3: comedians as well, why you are increasingly you guys are

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Speaker 3: increasingly booking a lot of small venues rather than just

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Speaker 3: heading one big city, because you're going from Embercago through

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Speaker 3: the Rotor Rul all the way, you know, like all

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Speaker 3: of these venues.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, absolutely right, Yeah, because well, I mean that's the thing,

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Speaker 23: you know, if like, as you say, other comics are doing.

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Speaker 23: I've started doing comedy when I was teen. You know,

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Speaker 23: it's something I've loved my entire life, and I've discovered,

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01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 23: you know, more and more that actually what I love

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Speaker 23: about it is when you can interact with an audience. And

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Speaker 23: sometimes that's that element is harder if you if you're

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Speaker 23: in a bigger venue, In a larger venue which is

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Speaker 23: a little bit more impersonal.

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Speaker 11: Some of the smaller well you know, smaller mid.

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Speaker 23: Medium sized venues, you can do that, you can actually

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Speaker 23: interact with you can hear what everyone says in the room.

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Speaker 23: And in fact, recently I was doing a run in

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Speaker 23: a theater in London which was quite a cozy West

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Speaker 23: End theater. You know, it's one of those sort of

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Speaker 23: small Victorian theaters where you can literally hear every single

1444
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 23: but if there's any comment from anyone in the room,

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Speaker 23: you can hear it. And that was just a joy

1446
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Speaker 23: to do that, and in fact it led to a

1447
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Speaker 23: wonderful conversation with somebody about nuclear fusion, and then it

1448
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Speaker 23: ended up with me being invited to the UK Atomic

1449
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Speaker 23: Energy authorities.

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Speaker 11: For at all and so.

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Speaker 23: But things like that happen in those in those situations.

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Speaker 23: If you love comedy as I do, then you know,

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01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 23: you just want to get close to the audience. And

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01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:15,680
Speaker 23: sometimes it's not feasible sometimes, you know, the practicalities of

1455
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 23: touring mean that you end up in larger venues and

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Speaker 23: I and equally then the show becomes more of a spectacle.

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Speaker 11: And I sort of like that as well.

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01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 23: I mean I kind of adapt the show to fit

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Speaker 23: the space in a way.

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Speaker 3: Tell me something, every time you come here, you sell out.

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01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 3: Why do we love you so much?

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Speaker 23: I don't know, I mean, I would say this right

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Speaker 23: and that is that I've put in the hours, if

1464
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 23: you like, I've been coming to New Zealand now for

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Speaker 23: nearly thirty years, and over that time, I think, as

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Speaker 23: someone said very eloquently, most of life is showing up.

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Speaker 23: And so if you if you turn up somewhere and

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Speaker 23: you show willing, then I think you draw people along

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Speaker 23: with you. And I think that over the years I've

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Speaker 23: hopefully formed a bit of a bond with New Zealand

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Speaker 23: order and you know, they've they've found me as it

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Speaker 23: were when I first turned up. Of course, you know,

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01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 23: nobody knew I was, and so you have to you know,

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Speaker 23: some people would come along and just just doing a.

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Speaker 11: Sort of random night out. It was this bloke.

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Speaker 23: And then gradually over the years people get to know

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Speaker 23: what your stuff is and you sort of develop an

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Speaker 23: audience as you go. And first of fact, I think

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Speaker 23: there's quite a lot of similarity between our senses of humor.

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01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:27,680
Speaker 23: I think there's a sort of a shared love of

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Speaker 23: the absurd and a love of language, and a love

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Speaker 23: of the general sort of oddity of life. Plus you know,

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Speaker 23: a sort of a kind of I find that the

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Speaker 23: New Zealand comedy are very warm and very and self deprecatory,

1485
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Speaker 23: like very much like British comedy. So I think we

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Speaker 23: have a lot in common. There's an affinity between us.

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Speaker 3: Well, it has been delight to talk to you, Bill.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much for your time. Look forward to

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Speaker 3: seeing you when you're here.

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Speaker 11: Thank you very much. I will see you then.

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Speaker 3: Brilliant Phil Bailey coming with the tour of Vaudevillian. He

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Speaker 3: will be here from the end of October all the

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Speaker 3: way through to the end of November, and he's going

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Speaker 3: to Queenstown and Vigagil duneed an Omaru, christ Church, Nelson,

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Speaker 3: Hawks Bay, Wellington, Auckland, Palmston, North, New Plymouth, Rotu, Hamilton.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely nobody is going to miss out. How good is that?

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Speaker 3: Eight twenty one.

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Speaker 2: Heather Duplicy Ellen on the Mic hosting Breakfast with al Vida, Retirement,

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Speaker 2: Communities News, togs Head b Hither.

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Speaker 3: You can do all the New York Time games for free.

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01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 3: You just need to download their app. Oh hold on,

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Speaker 3: although next text although today it isn't free, it's for

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Speaker 3: a random that's the no. That's because you probably haven't

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Speaker 3: played it in a long time, and it hasn't been

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Speaker 3: free for a very long time. I play it every day,

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Speaker 3: which is how I know that it's not what I

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Speaker 3: try to play it every day. Still, it's still not free.

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Speaker 3: That's why I don't then get it. It's a complicated

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Speaker 3: thing that I'm doing. By the way, are you impressed

1510
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 3: if I tell you that my wordle streak right now

1511
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 3: is five hundred and twenty nine, and if I get

1512
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 3: wordled today again, it's five hundred and thirty? Is that impressive?

1513
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 8: It's only impressive if you're like averaging two or three

1514
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 8: every time.

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01:11:56,400 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 3: I'm averaging three, I'm averaging three. Blow No, we'll Actually

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01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 3: that's a liear, isn't it. I'm often striking three. But

1517
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 3: because I'm.

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01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 8: Not, I'm more of a median than an Ever I'm.

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01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 3: Getting a three is a median?

1520
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 19: Four?

1521
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:11,680
Speaker 3: Well, this is probably let's just I'm just gonna just

1522
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 3: stop lying. Okay, it's four. It'll be four if I

1523
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 3: get a broken if I get a long run of three's.

1524
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 3: I'm feeling pretty pretty pleased with myself. But I've turned

1525
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 3: into a psycho about it, so it's kind of the

1526
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:23,640
Speaker 3: fun has been lost somewhat because now I feel like

1527
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 3: I have to do it every day, regardless of how

1528
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 3: naked I am you know, like two hours sleep, still

1529
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 3: got to do it. By the way, I got enough

1530
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 3: sleep last night, went to Better eight. Thank you.

1531
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:33,559
Speaker 8: And do you get the whole peer pressure thing, like

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01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 8: you connected with people and they say, oh, I got

1533
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 8: it into today.

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01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 3: And now what's So I'm with the husband and he's

1535
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 3: really annoying. A minute with the husband and a minute

1536
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 3: with two others who are often very drunk when they're

1537
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 3: doing it, so they bring a bit of fun to it.

1538
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:48,880
Speaker 3: But the husband's two competitive, so he waits because he

1539
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 3: knows I'm starting every day with the same word, which

1540
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 3: is a due, because I'm waiting for a due to happen,

1541
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 3: so and I really want to get that one.

1542
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 8: It's like people who play the same lotto numbers every week.

1543
01:12:57,479 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 3: Exactly, I'm the lost O person and I'm going to

1544
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 3: take out the power on some stage. But the trouble

1545
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 3: is he waits till I share my results, and then

1546
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 3: he knows that I started with a duce, so then

1547
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 3: he just assumed he knows where some of the letters are,

1548
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:08,600
Speaker 3: or like, you know, he gives him an advantage, so

1549
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 3: he comes in one underway.

1550
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 8: He gives him a real advantage too, because if you go,

1551
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 8: I've got it in one, then he knows, and then

1552
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:15,680
Speaker 8: he'll also get it in wait.

1553
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 3: So it's such a it's difficult for me to have

1554
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:20,760
Speaker 3: to suppress all of these feels about it and only

1555
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 3: raise them later on sort of, you know, like late

1556
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:23,519
Speaker 3: in the evening.

1557
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 8: I've never done it ever, not what he's ever.

1558
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 3: Done word or that would be because you're cool and

1559
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 3: I'm not, which actually.

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01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 8: Inside I think I'm just afraid that I wouldn't be

1561
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 8: able to do it.

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01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 3: You would still be much cooler than me for having

1563
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:37,680
Speaker 3: done it for five hundred and twenty nine days in

1564
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 3: a row, which is incredibly lame. Incidentally, by the way,

1565
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 3: on that there is a study that has been done

1566
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:44,760
Speaker 3: on this on on what you need to you do

1567
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 3: not get You're not cool because your friend's told you

1568
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 3: cool because you're wearing cool jeans. You are cool because

1569
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 3: you're cool, and there are six attributes you have to

1570
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 3: have and run you through that shortly, just really quickly.

1571
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:55,639
Speaker 3: On Aaron Patterson, did you ever wonder how she managed

1572
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 3: to afford the legal fees because she had a top

1573
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 3: top legal firm, dog George, she had a case and

1574
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 3: she had a veteran barris down like a spunky looking

1575
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 3: junior council and stuff. What happened was Granny died nineteen

1576
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 3: years ago. Unsure if it involved beef, Wellington left her

1577
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 3: two million dollars. She got that used that she sold

1578
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 3: a second property, Mount Waverley Home one million, and then

1579
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 3: just so they gave her three million. And then just

1580
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 3: before the start of the trial, the firm took out

1581
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 3: a mortgage on her home just to secure their funds.

1582
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 3: That's how she paid for it. News is next.

1583
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:34,720
Speaker 1: She said, this life forever and so he has to

1584
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 1: get there. Then less lead we could dance. We can

1585
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 1: dance on that. The only report you need to start

1586
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 1: your day.

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Speaker 2: Heather duper c Allen on the mic Hosking Breakfast with Vida, Retirement, Communities,

1588
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:51,600
Speaker 2: Life your Way, News, togs Head be.

1589
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 3: Heather, I loved your interview with Bill Bailey. My husband

1590
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 3: and I always see his show when he visits New Zealand.

1591
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 3: He's a great comedian and musician. I remember seeing him

1592
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:00,320
Speaker 3: at the Auckland Zoo about twenty years ago in the

1593
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 3: playground with his kids. He's a very down to earth

1594
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 3: man and a great dad too. Actually, because you know

1595
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 3: that he's spending about a month in the country, and

1596
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 3: if you're spending a month in the country, you got

1597
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 3: to bring the kids and take them to places like

1598
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 3: the zoo. So it's nice. It's nice to hear that

1599
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 3: he makes the most of it. Tom has sent me

1600
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 3: the wordle word. Tom, you know that that's a really

1601
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 3: uncool thing to do, but I did it any and

1602
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 3: so I got wordle in one today. So now I've

1603
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 3: got a streak of five hundred and thirty, thank you

1604
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 3: very much, Tom, although not as good as the nine

1605
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:27,720
Speaker 3: to nine to eight somebody else has.

1606
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 8: And hopefully Barry's not listening, and then you can tell

1607
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 8: him I got wordle in one. He then puts ade

1608
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 8: in so he can also get it in one, and

1609
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 8: then gets it wrong, and so you beat him.

1610
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 3: You I do not have an evil enough mind for it,

1611
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 3: but you do. And so we're gonna Yeah, I'll keep

1612
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 3: you posted on how that goes tomorrow. It's and it

1613
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 3: calls all kinds of drama. Twenty two Away from.

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01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 15: Night International Correspondence with ends in eye Insurance Peace of

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01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 15: Mind for New Zealand business Ron Little as.

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01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 3: Our UK torresponding a morning Rod. Can you believe it's

1617
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 3: been twenty years and Steve.

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01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 12: It's hard to imagine, isn't it, And yet that's where

1619
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 12: we are. We've had twenty years of kind of never

1620
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 12: quite as bad as that, but similar assaults on the

1621
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:15,719
Speaker 12: British mainland, and that one took the country by surprise,

1622
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 12: even if perhaps it shouldn't have done, given what had

1623
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:22,599
Speaker 12: happened in America four years earlier, fifty two people killed

1624
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 12: by a number of bombs, three on the underground and

1625
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 12: one on a bus, all done by Islamists, Muslim Islamists

1626
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 12: who came down from Yorkshire specifically for that fact, and

1627
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 12: the sensitivities are still kind of with us today. For example,

1628
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 12: if you've read the BBC's account of the commemorations which

1629
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:53,760
Speaker 12: were held today, which involved Kemy Badenoch Badenoch Ruther and

1630
01:16:54,240 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 12: the London Mayor and the Prime Minister and all the

1631
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,760
Speaker 12: leaders of the opposition parties all gathering together will paying

1632
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:07,679
Speaker 12: their respects. In this enormously long article, the word Islam

1633
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 12: or Muslim does not appear once. So there is still

1634
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:15,880
Speaker 12: this great sensitivity about what we say about these sorts

1635
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 12: of things, how we demarcate them, whether they're connected to

1636
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 12: Islam or not. And now need to avoid demonizing the

1637
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:28,600
Speaker 12: Muslim community in this country, which of course, in the

1638
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 12: last twenty years is almost doubled in size.

1639
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:33,880
Speaker 3: The question that's also been posed by the BBC is

1640
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:36,720
Speaker 3: whether you guys are any safer now in the UK

1641
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 3: than you were twenty years ago.

1642
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 12: What do you think I would have thought twice is

1643
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:45,679
Speaker 12: unsafe given that there is a proportion of the older

1644
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:49,679
Speaker 12: Muslim community which which is to do us harm, and

1645
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 12: as the Muslim community is doubled, there are now twice

1646
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 12: as many presumably within that within that trance we want

1647
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 12: to do its harm. Not the majority. The other roelming majority,

1648
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 12: of course, want no such thing. I think to put

1649
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 12: that into a bit of context, the intelligence services have

1650
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:13,880
Speaker 12: unquestionably foiled many attacks. It's possible that they missed this

1651
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 12: particular attack in London in two thousand and seven. In

1652
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 12: two thousand and five, brother, it's possible they missed that.

1653
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 12: But since then they have improved considerably, and there is

1654
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:30,640
Speaker 12: a seriousness now with which they treat the threat of

1655
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:33,760
Speaker 12: Islamic tourism, which prior to that we didn't really know

1656
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 12: very much about and haven't really experienced.

1657
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 3: Rod, do you think that there is not much hope

1658
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 3: of Stamer being able to get a deal on the

1659
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 3: migrants with France.

1660
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 12: My suspicion is he possibly will get a deal on

1661
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 12: the migrants. But there's a bigger reason for this being important,

1662
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 12: and that's that given their success in defeating a very

1663
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 12: very weak prime minister, how you can be a weak

1664
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:02,200
Speaker 12: prime minister with the majority is something which will confound

1665
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:05,759
Speaker 12: me forever. But they beat him down on welfare payments,

1666
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:10,000
Speaker 12: on what knownice the pips payments, and they now think

1667
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:12,799
Speaker 12: they can get away with anything. And there is a

1668
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 12: fairly large group of labor redpeaces who simply do not

1669
01:19:16,479 --> 01:19:21,879
Speaker 12: believe that any restriction should be placed upon refugees frankly,

1670
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 12: and that the more the merrier, and that is a

1671
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:28,320
Speaker 12: real problem for fust Starma.

1672
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 3: So do you think, I mean, is this going to

1673
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 3: be the future of Starmer's entire term where he just

1674
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 3: gets poshed around by the back bench and by rebellious inpace.

1675
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 12: I fear it is because, of course we also had

1676
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 12: over the weekend the chaotic announcement of a new political

1677
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:48,799
Speaker 12: party on the left led by Zarah Sultana and Jeremy Corby.

1678
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 12: So there was that which is a threat to him

1679
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 12: and will take quotes. You know, no matter how useless

1680
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:58,640
Speaker 12: it is, and no matter how stupid Sultana is and

1681
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 12: she is really really stupid, they will get some votes.

1682
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:06,720
Speaker 12: So here's been a principal movement there, which is the

1683
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 12: lib Dems, the Greens and these new parties. Because there

1684
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 12: are others, all of them are to the left of

1685
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 12: Labor and so I think what you will see over

1686
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 12: the next four years is maybe Starmer giving up his

1687
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:22,000
Speaker 12: attempt to regain the red wall and tacking quite vigorously

1688
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:22,599
Speaker 12: to the left.

1689
01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 3: Rod, good to talk to you. Thank you so much, Rod,

1690
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:29,519
Speaker 3: Little UK correspondent seen regize. Okay, here are the six

1691
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:31,679
Speaker 3: things that you need to be cool. This is according

1692
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:33,439
Speaker 3: to a study that's been published this month in the

1693
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 3: Journal of Experimental Psychology. You need to be extroverted, you

1694
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:42,480
Speaker 3: need to be hedonistic. You need to be powerful, adventurous,

1695
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:46,559
Speaker 3: open and autonomous. So basically what you need to do

1696
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 3: is you need to be in charge of yourself. You

1697
01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:50,599
Speaker 3: need to be up for fun, but then you need

1698
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:52,559
Speaker 3: to actually be looking for that fun as well, and

1699
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:54,080
Speaker 3: then you need to be fun to be around. And

1700
01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:55,759
Speaker 3: if you've got all of that stuff, if you're basically

1701
01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:58,400
Speaker 3: fun and able to control your you know, what you

1702
01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 3: do with your time. Then people going to look at

1703
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 3: you and they're going to think that you're cool. So

1704
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 3: it's not just like I mean, I don't know about you,

1705
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 3: but when I was when I was little, my mum

1706
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:07,479
Speaker 3: was like, that person's not cool. You just think they're

1707
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:09,800
Speaker 3: coiled because they've got blue hair. That doesn't make them cool. Well,

1708
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:11,439
Speaker 3: actually the blue hair was nothing to do with it.

1709
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 3: I thought that they were cool because they had these

1710
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:15,599
Speaker 3: six attributes most likely. And the interesting thing is that

1711
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 3: these researchers looked across six thousand people across a dozen

1712
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 3: countries Ossie, Chile, China, Germany, India, Mexico, Nigeria, Spain, South Africa,

1713
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 3: South Korea, Turkey, United States, and so you know you

1714
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:31,760
Speaker 3: can I mean, these cultures will have completely different perceptions

1715
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 3: of what cool is, you know. I mean, one place

1716
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 3: it may be that your genes are fled and another

1717
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 3: place maybe that your feet are small or your ear

1718
01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:40,639
Speaker 3: lobes are huge, or you've you know, shaved your hair

1719
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:42,960
Speaker 3: into a mohawk or whatever. It could be any number

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Speaker 3: of things that make you cool. But that's not what

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01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 3: it's about, right, It's about whether you've got these these

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01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 3: particular attributes, which is the first time apparently that we've

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01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:52,679
Speaker 3: realized this. Anyway, Not only did they look at I'm

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01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:54,360
Speaker 3: not cool by the way I thought about.

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Speaker 8: It, did you take any of those boxes?

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Speaker 3: I just don't like fun enough. I just I think

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Speaker 3: it's fun.

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Speaker 8: I scored a zero on everything.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't matter, because we can still come in

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Speaker 3: on the.

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Speaker 8: I do even reckon I'm that hedonistic, No, aren't you.

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Speaker 3: I'm definitely not. I mean, I think if you if

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01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:13,720
Speaker 3: you're the kind of person who needs to go to

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01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:16,720
Speaker 3: bed at eight o'clock at night, Glenn, you're clearly not

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01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 3: fun and you're very not cool. You can, though, be

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01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 3: a good person if the attributes for a good person

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01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 3: apparently are to be calm, conscientious, universalistic, whatever the hell

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01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:32,800
Speaker 3: that means, agreeable, warm, secure, traditional, and conforming. And I'm

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01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 3: that absolutely lose the first word calm, not at all.

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Speaker 8: I'm just just looking up universalistic now. I'll get back

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01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:40,840
Speaker 8: to you on what that means.

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Speaker 3: Thanks. It was basically Sam can't type fast enough for

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01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 3: Glenn to be able to pretend that he knows what

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01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 3: it means. Called to to the Mike.

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Speaker 2: Asking Breakfast Full Show Podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard by News talks.

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Speaker 5: A be.

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Speaker 3: Hither what happened to kind Yeah nah, kind na not

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01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:01,599
Speaker 3: cool and not good? As it turns out, universalistic is

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01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:05,680
Speaker 3: something that is related to or characterized by universalism. That's

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01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 3: a concept that emphasizes universal I feel like we're just

1751
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 3: repeating the same word. He have different variations of it.

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01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 3: It's the belief that certain things apply to all people

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01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:15,559
Speaker 3: or all things, regardless of differences. So an example would

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01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 3: be like if Willie Jackson is arguing that you need

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01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:22,680
Speaker 3: to have special rights because you're Ewie, then he's not universalistic,

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01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:25,799
Speaker 3: so he's not good. But David Seymour's arguing that everybody

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01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 3: needs to have the same rights, therefore he's good. Yeah,

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01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:32,320
Speaker 3: I can and we all not a lot and agree

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Speaker 3: with that. Now I need to talk to you about

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01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:37,599
Speaker 3: the ambulances because it's in the papers today. The coroners

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01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:39,320
Speaker 3: looked into the death of somebody who's waiting for an

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01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:42,920
Speaker 3: ambo and has revealed deep concerns over a number of

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01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 3: serious and compounding mistakes that are made in dealing with

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Speaker 3: the one one calls now what happened is October twenty

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01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:50,800
Speaker 3: twenty two, a man tripped and fell off the side

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Speaker 3: of his driveway and he fell down and he indicated

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01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:56,559
Speaker 3: he was conscious, but indicated to his family it was

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01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 3: clearly not okay. As to the family called the ambo.

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01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 3: The family he had to call the ambo five times

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01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 3: before the ambo came, and the last time the only

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01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 3: reason the ambo actually came was because by then he

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01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 3: was unconscious and not breathing, so the AMBO was like, oh,

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01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 3: might have to go help there. Anyway, forty five minutes

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01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:16,400
Speaker 3: had passed, he was dead. Now it's not clear whether

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01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 3: an AMBO would have saved him or not. You can't

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01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 3: you can never really truly prove something like that. But

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01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 3: what went wrong is that the first few first few

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01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:26,719
Speaker 3: times the family called, they coded, they sent an ambo,

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01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 3: but they coded at orange or something like that was

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01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:31,200
Speaker 3: not particularly important. They didn't think that the person was

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01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 3: in much trouble, and so both times that the AMBO

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01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 3: was sent, it was just dispatched to other places, more

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01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:38,519
Speaker 3: high priority jobs. Not the only case. The problem here

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01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 3: is it's not the only case of this happening, because

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01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 3: you had the teenager who died of an asthma attack.

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Speaker 3: For God's sake in July twenty twenty. They waited that

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01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 3: teenager waited twenty eight minutes for an amber. And then

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01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:51,240
Speaker 3: the man who was experiencing classic heart attack symptoms who

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01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 3: died while his wife was driving him to hospital because

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01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 3: they didn't send him an amber. Anyway, there have been

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01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:58,760
Speaker 3: one hundred and sixty six complaints about ambos to Health

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01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:02,040
Speaker 3: and Disability to the and Disability Commissioner in about five

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01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 3: years time. So I think now there's no point in

1794
01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:07,479
Speaker 3: complaining about something that you cannot fix. But I think

1795
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 3: what you need to do is you need to basically

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01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 3: make contingency plans. Sit down today, have a look at

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01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:14,599
Speaker 3: the most easy route to pop your family member into

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01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 3: the car and drive to the hospital, because that's how

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01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 3: you're going to get them there. You're not going to

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01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:20,320
Speaker 3: get a NAMBO. I would certainly wouldn't take my chances.

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01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 3: Nine away from nine here.

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Speaker 2: The dutilus Y Allen on the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:27,040
Speaker 2: the land Rover Discovery News to.

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Speaker 3: Be here that the ambo turns up, they get a

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01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:32,400
Speaker 3: punch in the head. Suppose so seven away from nine

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01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 3: now the Coadrona Hotel and Pub. You will have heard

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01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 3: Mike talking about this last week. It looks like it's

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01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:40,720
Speaker 3: going to be the most viewed property of the year online.

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01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:42,720
Speaker 3: It's been listed. It's only been listed a week now.

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01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:44,519
Speaker 3: I don't even think it's a week. I think it

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Speaker 3: was Thursday in today's two year na, not not even

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01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:50,280
Speaker 3: a full week. Yet. It's still got a way to go, right,

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01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:53,080
Speaker 3: It's still got to beat some pretty big listings, Paul

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01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:55,400
Speaker 3: Henry's remy where a Mansion went off. I looked at that,

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01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 3: did you? That was hilarious? He was hilarious. That's why

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01:25:58,120 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 3: I looked at it. But it is getting so many

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01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:02,559
Speaker 3: hits at the moment that by the time it actually

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Speaker 3: gets to sell, which is about August fifteen, it will

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01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:08,840
Speaker 3: probably have beaten Paul Henry's rebuer a Mansion been up

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01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:11,120
Speaker 3: eighty six at the point that it has been up

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01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 3: a little bit longer than that now, But at the

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Speaker 3: point that it had been up eighty six hours, it

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Speaker 3: had fetched almost twenty one thousand views. That's four hits

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01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:19,519
Speaker 3: every minute, not bad, A six away from.

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Speaker 2: Nine trending Now MS Warehouse your home of winter Essentials.

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Speaker 3: Now, I cannot accurately explain to you how much furroorri

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01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:30,800
Speaker 3: there's online right now over the Epstein files. If you

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01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:33,639
Speaker 3: missed it. After promising over and over again that all

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01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:36,280
Speaker 3: the files would be released in that infamous photo of

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01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:38,760
Speaker 3: all of the Justice Departments staff holding up their classified

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01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:40,760
Speaker 3: files to the media to show it would be coming out.

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01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:44,559
Speaker 3: The DOJ has now declared there was no issue, Epstein

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01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:47,960
Speaker 3: wasn't murdered and the files will not be released. Que

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01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:50,919
Speaker 3: the outrage, and boy, there is a lot of outrage

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01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:52,880
Speaker 3: from the mega faithful and others. And of course one

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01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:56,000
Speaker 3: of the first things reference was Elon's post a couple

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01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:57,519
Speaker 3: of weeks back when he said that Trump was in

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Speaker 3: the files and that's why they haven't been made public yet.

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01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:02,160
Speaker 3: Of course, one of the first things we were told

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01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 3: way back was that the jail was that the jail

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01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 3: CCTV was raised by technical errors, right, so there was

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01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 3: no evidence. But yet we now mysteriously have eleven hours

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01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:14,960
Speaker 3: of camera footage that shows allegedly that no one entered

1844
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 3: his cell in the hours before he committed suicide. Conspiracy

1845
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:24,720
Speaker 3: noise exactly. Carolyn Levitt got challenged by Fox about it all.

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Speaker 25: So what happened to the Epstein client list that the

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01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:31,120
Speaker 25: Attorney General said she had on her desk.

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01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:33,080
Speaker 18: Well, I think if you go back and look at

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Speaker 18: what the Attorney General said in that interview, which was

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Speaker 18: on your network on Fox News.

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Speaker 25: Go ahead, and Roberts said, DOJ may be releasing the

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01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:43,479
Speaker 25: list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients. Will that really happen? And

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Speaker 25: she said, it's sitting on my desk right now to review.

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01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:50,000
Speaker 3: Now, let's review the tape of Pambondi being so proud

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01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:51,439
Speaker 3: that they were going to release the files on the

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01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 3: client list.

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Speaker 12: The dog may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients.

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01:27:56,640 --> 01:27:57,479
Speaker 8: Well, that really happen.

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Speaker 26: It's sitting on my desk right now. Review. That's been

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Speaker 26: a directive by President Trump. I'm reviewing that. I'm reviewing

1861
01:28:05,479 --> 01:28:09,080
Speaker 26: JFK files, MLK files. That's all in the process of

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Speaker 26: being reviewed because that was done at the directive of

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Speaker 26: the president from all of these agencies.

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Speaker 3: So there was a client list sitting on her desk

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01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 3: to be reviewed. But now there is not a client list.

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01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 3: Super transparent, right.

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01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:28,960
Speaker 18: They committed to an exhaustive investigation, that's what they did,

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01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 18: and they provided the results of that. That's transparency, is it.

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Speaker 3: Look, I'm I'm ice, i am not going I'm not

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Speaker 3: getting involved in this. I'm not because I just I

1871
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 3: think there are times where you have to back out

1872
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:46,000
Speaker 3: and you have to say, something weird is going on here,

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01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:49,040
Speaker 3: Like something flew through the sky, isn't he U? They

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01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:49,599
Speaker 3: I don't know.

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01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:50,160
Speaker 11: I don't know.

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01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 8: Hand out just some of all those DVDs and CD

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01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:55,320
Speaker 8: ROMs that they seized from the apartment.

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01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:57,439
Speaker 3: Maybe I think it should be a free for all

1879
01:28:57,479 --> 01:29:00,320
Speaker 3: at this stage. I mean, what are we protecting, right, dud.

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Speaker 3: Let's have a look at it. Anyway, enjoy yourself today.

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01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:07,840
Speaker 3: I will see you tomorrow. And by the way, yes

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01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 3: we've we've reviewed the evidence and the cool list of

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01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:22,880
Speaker 3: six things Mike is definitely cool. One see you tomorrow.

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