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Speaker 1: I wanted to give you this insight and to live.

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Speaker 1: Golf winner arrived very controversial, of course, it was back

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Speaker 1: by the Soundias. It was money raining down on every title.

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Speaker 1: It's going to rip the game apart, all that sort

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Speaker 1: of stuff. So how's it actually unfolded? Where's it at?

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Speaker 2: Ku We?

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Speaker 1: Ben Campbell plays on the Asian too. He got to

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Speaker 1: play live last year as a fillain. This year is

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Speaker 1: joined full time as part of Bubba Watson's Range Goats team.

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Speaker 1: And last week and he came in as I said

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Speaker 1: before the news fifteenth collected half a million bucks just

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Speaker 1: like that. So this week they're all in Adelaide anyway.

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Speaker 1: Ben Campbell's with us from South Australia.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Yeah, good morning to you. How are you

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Speaker 2: guys getting on listen?

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Speaker 1: I'm really well now. Took me through this whole experience

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Speaker 1: live before. What we your thoughts live now that you're

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 3: I think last year I was lucky I was a

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Speaker 3: reserve out here and yeah, I think it's definitely you know,

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Speaker 3: the events are different to you know, I think you've

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Speaker 3: got to go to them in person, see what they're

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Speaker 3: like this week here in Adelaide it's going to be amazing.

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Speaker 3: But I think, you know, it's I think definitely being

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Speaker 3: range Go, it's it's definitely a cool experience and really

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Speaker 3: looking forward to this week.

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Speaker 2: It's. Yeah, I'm really excited for the year.

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Speaker 1: As it turned out the way you thought is the

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Speaker 1: sort of golf you thought, the crowds, you thought, the competition,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's very much the same. It's it's growing.

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Speaker 3: It's definitely getting bigger and bigger. I think, you know,

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Speaker 3: the to the last few events, I think, you know,

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Speaker 2: And you know, and and Liver it just producing such

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Speaker 3: They're getting better and better and better at every event

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Speaker 3: and which is exciting. And you know, we come back

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Speaker 3: the grand stands are bigger here. I think there's five

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Speaker 3: just one of those.

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Speaker 2: It's it's you know, growing as it every year.

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Speaker 1: Really, what's its success or your view of its success.

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Speaker 1: Is it people turning up to see individual golfers or

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Speaker 2: I think it's a bit of everything.

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Speaker 3: I think one thing I really liked last year being reserved.

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Speaker 3: I got to see some things probably the players didn't quite.

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Speaker 3: The kids coming out, Like I feel like parents taking

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Speaker 3: Where out here, the music's going, it doesn't really matter

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Speaker 3: there's there's definitely people here that they might only see

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Speaker 2: People can sort of listen to some music, watch a

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Speaker 3: Shots, and yeah, it's different and it's targeting a different market.

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Speaker 1: Does that diminish the game in your view, you know,

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Speaker 2: No, not to me.

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Speaker 1: And has that counteracted because when you know, when Live

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Speaker 3: I think you look at watch the cards this week

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Speaker 1: So that pathway, I mean, where where's it at? I mean,

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Speaker 3: I suppose it's sort of different from me coming from

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Speaker 3: the Asian Tour, like the Asian two has been backed

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Speaker 3: by Live Golf for the last I think it's three

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Speaker 1: What about the pathways, I mean, announced into the Open

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Speaker 1: Good to hear. Now, listen to your part, as you mentioned,

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Speaker 3: I think I hadn't sort of obviously obviously, you know

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I think it's just gives a different perspective

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Speaker 1: What about the money you win half a million dollars?

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Speaker 3: I remember last year hitting bung shots with Bryson when

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Speaker 1: Do you really learn from Bryson? Given he's so weird

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I think, you know, he's definitely you want

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Speaker 1: What about the psychology of the money in the sense

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Speaker 2: You know, it surprised me last year.

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Speaker 1: And is there what the camaraderie about living that sense

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Speaker 3: No. I think that's definitely been one thing. You know,

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Speaker 2: The guys have been amazing. You know.

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Speaker 3: I think I had an interview a couple of days

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Speaker 1: Greg Norman in there early, all those guys as a business,

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Speaker 1: as an idea, as a launch. Is this or has

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Speaker 1: this been as good as it gets?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I think it's just it's growing, you know, It's like

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Speaker 3: a small business that starts up, and there's the learning.

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Speaker 3: There's that they're employing more people and the events are

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Speaker 3: getting bigger and bigger. So yeah, I think I can't

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Speaker 3: it's not going to go away. And I think it's

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Speaker 3: it just seems to be getting stronger and which is exciting,

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Speaker 3: and it's it's great to bring golf to some parts

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Speaker 3: of the world like this. You know that haven't had

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Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of big events. Okay, we've

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Speaker 3: had the Australian Open, but they have fifty four of

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Speaker 3: you know, some of the world's best players coming down

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Speaker 3: and that you know, it would be great.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully we maybe get one in New Zealand one day exactly.

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Speaker 1: By the way, have you seen this TGI golf?

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Speaker 3: No, I haven't sort of seen too much of it.

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Speaker 3: year when it was just kicking off. But I actually

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Speaker 3: I've just seen a little bit of the stuff online,

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Speaker 3: but I haven't sort of seen too much of it.

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Speaker 1: See, I don't get it. I mean, I watch you

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Speaker 1: on leve I watched the PGA, I like all of that.

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Speaker 1: But then do I enjoy watching you guys smack a

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Speaker 1: put on a g I mean, is that interesting?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I suppose it's just going to be time time.

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Speaker 2: You know, Tom's going to tell if it's if it's

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Speaker 3: But I suppose they're trying to trying to do something different,

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Speaker 3: try and get you know, some of the people that

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Speaker 3: might not watch golf.

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Speaker 2: I'm not you know, I'm not too sure.

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Speaker 1: So the year, Ben, talk to me about the year.

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Speaker 1: You got it all lined up? Are you excited?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to be. It's definitely busy.

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Speaker 3: Like the live schedule, We've got fourteen events from well

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Speaker 3: thirteen more from now till the twenty fourth of August.

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Speaker 3: So obviously i'll play play that and then I'll of

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Speaker 3: finish off the year with a little bit of sort

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Speaker 2: So you know, it's great.

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Speaker 3: The New Zealand Open having the British Open spot this

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Speaker 3: year is going to be awesome. So you know that

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Speaker 3: was great news to get announced just a couple of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Hey, listen, mate, go well this weekend and

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Speaker 1: for the season. Good to have you on the program.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it very much. Ben Campbell, New Zealand delivering the

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