1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,639 Speaker 1: Amid the chaos and catastrophe of this dreful run around 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: a triple fatal crash that we're finding out that witnesses 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: are filming and streaming the wreckage. I thought that was disgusting. 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 2: There were close ups of people to ceasing the van 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: and injured long on the road. And I say to 6 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 2: the people that are filming that, how'd you feel if 7 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: that's your family? 8 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: A good question. That's the police of course. So what's 9 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: the say about is clinical psychologist Google Sutherlands where there's 10 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: dogle morning to you? 11 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, good morning Michael. 12 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: What's the say about us in very general terms? Or 13 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: is it just a small group of us that would 14 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I find it abhorrent, weird, unusual, nutty, strange? 15 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: Is that for most of us? 16 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 2: Or what? Look? I think there's a strong human interest 17 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 2: in death and sex. And if you go back historically, 18 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: people were always into looking for things like public execution. 19 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: So I think there's a human innate human interest in death. 20 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 2: But I think what we see in this situation is 21 00:00:55,360 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: this real gratuitous use of cell phones and social media 22 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: to broadcast that further. So I think you've got that 23 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 2: and nates human interest and then mixed on top of that, 24 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: you've got this, you know, you've got this social media 25 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 2: pressure where we do everything we can for clicks and likes, 26 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 2: and that makes us popular. And I think you know 27 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 2: now it's sort of the thing to do if you're 28 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 2: at a public event, you pull out a cell phone 29 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: and start filming it, whether that's good or bad. And 30 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 2: I think it's a salutary reminder for us to actually 31 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 2: stop and check what the heck we're doing when we're 32 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: enter something like this and we've got our cell phone 33 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: with us. 34 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: See, it's where the line. Do you film somebody who's 35 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: slightly old looking down the street, Then do you film 36 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: the fight that breaks out, all the knifing? Then do 37 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: you stop on the motorway and film the death? And 38 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: so we're discovering where that line is and maybe there 39 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 1: is no line. 40 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. I actually there was an incident, there 41 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: was a police incident outside my workplace a couple of 42 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: weeks ago, and you know, there were thirty people standing around, 43 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 2: and half of them would have had a cell phone 44 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: with them. Look, and I think we need to take 45 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 2: responsibility obviously those people that have film, we need to 46 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: take responsibility. But we have some power too in this 47 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: as consumers. We can block people, and we can unfriend them, 48 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: and we can report them to the social media platforms 49 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: for filming this kind of stuff. The last thing we 50 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 2: want to do is comment on their social media posts, 51 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: even if it's negative, because that will just feed the 52 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 2: algorithm and make them more and more popular, which is 53 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 2: what really helps drive some of that behavior. 54 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: Good tips Doigle appreciate it. 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