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Speaker 2: Welcome today, the Mowbray's and their online legal issues, new

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Speaker 2: forecast and the economy. You're ready for this one. We

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Speaker 2: might be about to get too much growth. The Alliance foke.

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Speaker 2: That's a thriller. If you're not following that, bring the

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Speaker 2: mccallums and for word about cricket. Timicated you to week

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Speaker 2: Richard Ardol Murray, Old's their world class and will us

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Speaker 2: as well? Friday morning, seven pass six, Doctor Hosking would

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Speaker 2: diagnose a kind of funk as a result of some

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Speaker 2: observations for you this week. So three I thought, three

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Speaker 2: very clear examples these past few days of good news,

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Speaker 2: of uplifting events, of indisputable progress, and yet for too

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Speaker 2: many it was not a reason to acknowledge or accept

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Speaker 2: or congratulate, but rather moan a bit more or find

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Speaker 2: a reason as to why it can't be. So are

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Speaker 2: the most obvious the ceasefire and hostage come prisoners?

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Speaker 1: What now?

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Speaker 2: As I said, peace in the Middle East is only

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Speaker 2: ever temporary, but the bit we witness Tuesday is an

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Speaker 2: indisputable win. And for now there was much and as

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Speaker 2: much to be celebrated. And yet the main character the

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Speaker 2: US President for some was not to be thanked or recognized.

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Speaker 2: The Greens here went as far as to suggest we

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Speaker 2: actively don't acknowledge them. They argued. The tireless ground operators

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Speaker 2: i e. Them are the people who wore the scarfs,

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Speaker 2: and health press conferences were somehow more responsible. So a

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Speaker 2: mix there of complete delusion and lack of grace are.

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Speaker 2: There were no shortage of obsessives who contacted me raging

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Speaker 2: about the Palestinian treatment of pro Israeli coverage, even a

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Speaker 2: cease fire for some as a reason to peckholes, apparently

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Speaker 2: above celebration and or relief. And then education, very clear,

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Speaker 2: specific and indisputable progress and phonics this week, as well

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Speaker 2: as English and maths in our primary schools. We changed

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Speaker 2: it up. It's working, but oh no, A lot of

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Speaker 2: pushback on that as well. It's only a small sample,

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Speaker 2: how do we know for sure? A number of interviews

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Speaker 2: on this very station with Unions Principles teachers about as

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Speaker 2: reluctant as you can get, possibly acknowledging. We might be

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Speaker 2: onto something. But let's see, let me dial up the

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Speaker 2: skepticism just a bit. Heaven forbid you catch me being enthusiast.

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Speaker 2: Then the hospo sector record income. Oh but Mike, that's

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Speaker 2: not profit. What about the bills? Yes, yes, yes, I

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Speaker 2: get it. But I'll tell you this for nothing. When

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Speaker 2: the good news arrives, if you can't see it, all worse,

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Speaker 2: you don't want to see it. You're destined for a

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Speaker 2: life of well existence of misery and woe in myopia.

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Speaker 2: I mean, as the nation's funk set in has dual

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Speaker 2: replaced rugby as the national pastime. Good grace is not

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Speaker 2: that hard. Sometimes the news is good, Sometimes the outlook

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Speaker 2: is better. Sometimes the future is bright. Give it a go.

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Speaker 2: It won't kill you.

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Speaker 1: News of the world in ninety seconds, right.

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Speaker 2: The UK first, where the Chinese spy case collapse still

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Speaker 2: haunts the government NEARI fiber and the public domain this morning.

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Speaker 3: When it comes to China, the UK needs to defend

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Speaker 3: itself resolutely against threats and seize the opportunities that demonstrably

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Speaker 3: sour of our ownation. Our five Eyes allies share the

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Speaker 3: same pragmatic approach.

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Speaker 2: That's US. Chinese, by the way, doing what the Chinese

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Speaker 2: do when it comes to China. Kimmy knows she's onto something.

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Speaker 4: The witness statements Shoe that it was labor policy that

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Speaker 4: was in there. He's claimed that there was no political

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Speaker 4: interference in those witness statements. What we see is words

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Speaker 4: from the Labor Party manifesto are.

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Speaker 2: The Chinese metters, namely the rare Earth policy.

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Speaker 5: You can't win every investment decision, but there's plenty of

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Speaker 5: investment coming to the UK, whether that is in critical

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Speaker 2: Now, as regards to cease fire, when Hamas is still

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Speaker 2: shooting people, that means they've not disarmed.

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Speaker 6: Eight bound in, blindfolded men are dragged out and forced

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Speaker 6: to kneel one by one. Armed Hamass militants take up

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Speaker 6: their positions behind them, aiming rifles at their heads before

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Speaker 2: I'm back in Britain. Big night for some new names

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Speaker 2: in the British music scene. It's the Mercury Prize, held

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Speaker 7: Production of the album What's gone into it? How original

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Speaker 7: British music. So all of those different types of criteria

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Speaker 7: things that they don't matter for sales or how many

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Speaker 8: It's about the.

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Speaker 2: Music, okay. Finally, Tyra Banks, she's launching hot ice Cream.

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Speaker 2: She's got a shop in Australia. If you go to

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Speaker 2: Australia recently, it's wheat Robes here Imax duelling hard but

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Speaker 2: they had to pop up in January, flagship in July.

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Speaker 2: Why she launched it there, I got no idea. Because

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Speaker 2: they're excited. The most called spires and dream. She described

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Speaker 2: it as not ice cream, not hot chocolate, but your

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Speaker 2: favorite Scoop's transformed into liquid hot in sippable hot Mama

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Speaker 2: hot ice cream. Anyway, the reason they're excited this morning

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Speaker 2: That's news of the world. In ninety Trump problems two problems.

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Speaker 2: Judges ordered the layofs have got to stop. So yes,

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Speaker 2: the place is still closed down. He's using that as

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Speaker 2: an opportunity to lay Americans off. That's got to stop

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Speaker 2: for now. Other problem was yesterday he was claiming you

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Speaker 2: talked to Modi or Modi had promised him he wasn't

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Speaker 2: going to be buying any more oil. Mody this morning's saying,

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Speaker 2: I don't know anything about that, so we'll see where

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Speaker 1: Twelve past six, the Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast

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Speaker 9: It by.

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Speaker 2: Economic growth for the UK zero point three for the

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Speaker 2: second quarter, not as good as the first court at

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Speaker 2: mid November, so they're still growing, so that's something. Switzerland's

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Speaker 2: got problems though, that thirty nine percent tariff thing that

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Speaker 9: Very good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: These price indexes food in there as well, So we

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Speaker 2: angst about food, don't we.

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Speaker 9: Oh, we can answert about everything, aren't we.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yesterday we got the monthly dump from Sets New Zealand.

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Speaker 10: Of this is roughly fifty percent of the components that

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Speaker 10: There's various elements to these indexes. Food prices get the

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Speaker 10: most attention. The good news is that the annual change

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Speaker 10: Ryan had Cambagrey talking earlier on. He made the very

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Speaker 10: valid observation that for most people, inflation feels like it's

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Speaker 10: case of this. There's some staggering numbers in the detail

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Speaker 10: mention that food prices have been trending higher since the

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Speaker 10: the first significant reversal in that trend. So let's sell

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Speaker 10: it that the grocery group is up three point nine percent,

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Speaker 10: meat pulp and fish six point four percent. But here's

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Speaker 10: average price for two liters of milk that's up fifteen

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Speaker 10: the one that I didn't actually realize because I don't

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Speaker 10: buy it, but a loaf of white bread is up

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Speaker 10: forty nine point six percent. That's wheat prices I think

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Speaker 9: About these daily sort of.

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Speaker 10: You know, the consumables are going to go three percent

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Speaker 10: Now got three months of selective price in it's representing

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Speaker 10: have a really good cracket estimating Q three inflation. That

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Speaker 10: figures due for release on Monday, So we're very exciting

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Speaker 10: way to start the week. Consensus forecast zero point nine

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Speaker 10: It could very easily print at three point one.

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Speaker 9: You wondn't be surprised to see it there.

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Speaker 10: The thing they might hear while that number is important,

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Speaker 10: that the real key is actually how quick it falls,

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Speaker 10: because everyone's expecting it to fall so Q four first

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Speaker 2: interesting this morning, So we'll talk it to Garth Gareth

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Speaker 10: New Zealand people heading over there looking for that greener grass.

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Speaker 10: They had release of employment numbers yesterday, but of a surprise,

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Speaker 9: Bit weaker than expected.

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Speaker 10: So yep, unemployment rate has lifted to four and a

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Speaker 10: things like consumer spending holding up pretty well. They have

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Speaker 10: an inflation print on October the twenty ninth that will

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Speaker 10: be pivotal. The market did react to this market move

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Speaker 10: drop in the Aussie dollar, which has seen the Keiwossie cross.

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Speaker 9: Left quite a bit.

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Speaker 10: Bond rates foul share market liked it up seventy seven points.

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Speaker 9: I think when I last.

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Speaker 2: Checked, okay, infertill and in video, anything within video. I

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Speaker 2: mean I could sign a deal with an in video

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Speaker 2: and get rich overnight, couldn't It. Isn't that how it

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Speaker 2: works these days?

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Speaker 11: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: Dead right.

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Speaker 11: AI.

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Speaker 10: It's you know, just text that, but that one box

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Speaker 10: and anything needs to tick at the moment, which is AI.

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Speaker 10: So Infertil Internet's listening infrastructure investor has a very substantial

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Speaker 10: investment in.

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Speaker 9: A business called CDC. They owned data centers.

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Speaker 10: Yesterday they annunced a strategic partnership with a credit called

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Speaker 10: Firmas teach.

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Speaker 9: Chnoledge and Nvidia.

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Speaker 10: They've got to deliver forty megawatts of CDC data center

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Speaker 10: capacity to deliver innovative AI factory capacity the CDC site.

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Speaker 9: It's coming from a Melbourne that's expected to deliver by Eightpril.

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Speaker 2: Come it, said the Ark. I'm more interested of all

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Speaker 2: worth watching. Other exciting developments this morning, we've got a

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Speaker 2: So they're going to round up John Bolton apparently today's

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Speaker 2: here at twenty three to seven, we've got more climate

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Speaker 11: Good to hear you, Mike.

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Speaker 2: How much of Watson this reporter is rock solid science

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Speaker 14: Well, a lot of the reality of what we face

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Speaker 14: a more coordinating manner. Primarily Mike. The challenges is that

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Speaker 2: Does it counteract the post code scenario? I mean some

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Speaker 11: No.

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Speaker 14: We looked at said it's got to cover the areas

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Speaker 14: If other areas want to do stuff, then that's fine,

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Speaker 14: And if they had that, the reality is I think

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Speaker 2: How reliant are we on local authorities and their ability

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Speaker 14: Well, they play a big role. And one of the

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Speaker 14: So what we've done in this in line with the

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Speaker 2: No right, have a good week and Simon wants the

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Speaker 2: Mind you good one in mind? I think we see

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Speaker 15: to call on a grand jury in Maryland now to

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Speaker 15: criminally indict Trump's form of national security advice. Of course,

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Speaker 15: John Bolton just the latest and the Trump enemy's less

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Speaker 15: to be targeted for retribution. The Bolton move follows the

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Speaker 15: indictment of former FBI Director James Comeat New Opportunity General A.

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Speaker 15: Tisha James. Since leaving his post in the first Trump term,

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Speaker 15: Bolton has become a harsh critic of Trump, and so

442
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Speaker 15: the FBI of course searched his home found some older

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Speaker 15: documents might classified, so the changes are expected to relate

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Speaker 15: to the handling of classified documents. Of course, before his reelection,

445
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Speaker 15: Trump was charged over mishandling of classified documents sims off

446
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Speaker 15: after those images of boxes of papers piled up in

447
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Speaker 15: a bathroom at Mary Lago. The case was delayed by

448
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Speaker 15: a Trump friendly judge at the time, then finally dismissed

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Speaker 15: since by that moment Trump again was sitting president. And

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Speaker 15: now Trump is signaling that this is not the end

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Speaker 15: of his bid to get even with some of those

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Speaker 15: who have opposed him. With his FBI director Cash Ptail

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Speaker 15: and Attorney General Pam Bonding standing behind him and simply

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Speaker 15: smiling and nodding, Trump laid out even more names.

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Speaker 13: Jack Smith, in my opinion, is a criminal, and I

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Speaker 13: noticed his interviewer was, I think there was Weissman, and

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Speaker 13: I hope they're going to look into Weissman too. Weissman's

458
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Speaker 13: a bad guy, and he had somebody and Lisa, who

459
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Speaker 13: was his puppet, worked in the office really as the

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Speaker 13: top person, and I think that she should be looked

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Speaker 13: at very strongly. I hope they'll look at it. Shifty Shift.

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Speaker 13: I hope they'll look at it. All these people and

463
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Speaker 13: I'm allowed to find out I'm allowed to, you know,

464
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Speaker 13: I'm in theory the chief law enforcement officer.

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Speaker 15: Not that falls to the Attorney General, who again was

466
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Speaker 15: just shuffling in place as Trump was speaking. Meanwhile, for

467
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Speaker 15: the first time ever, the Pentagon is without reporters right now,

468
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Speaker 15: and all the major journalists from the Pentagon packed their

469
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Speaker 15: bags left the place, refusing to sign a demand by

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Speaker 15: Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth that they would publish only what

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Speaker 15: the government tells them. Those refusing include Hegseth's former bosses

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Speaker 15: at Fox News, along with well every major outlet ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, NBC,

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Speaker 15: The AP, The Atlantic, Huffington Post, the Los Angeles Times,

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Speaker 15: New York Times, Washington Post, Reutters, the Wall Street Journal,

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Speaker 15: on and on only the one America News Network, a

476
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Speaker 15: Trump supporting group, signed that Pentagon Pact. In making this

477
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Speaker 15: outrageous demand for limits on free speech, Hegserth has gone

478
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Speaker 15: into hiding pretty much in a way that is quite

479
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Speaker 15: different from his boss, of course, speaks to the media

480
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Speaker 15: almost daily. Tek Seth has appeared to be politically isolated

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Speaker 15: since his troubled confirmation, his phone chat scandal, and his

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Speaker 15: firing of top Pentagon associates.

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Speaker 2: Now, what is Trump to in Venezuela.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, good question, could be a major escalation ahead. Trump

485
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Speaker 15: has taken the unusual step of openly confirming that he's

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Speaker 15: authorized CIA action in that country.

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Speaker 13: He says, we are certainly looking at land now because

488
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Speaker 13: we've got to see very well under control.

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Speaker 15: Trump says also that he's considering US military strikes on

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Speaker 15: Venezuelan and soil. He says the US military carried out

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Speaker 15: attack on another boat in the Grivian which he says

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Speaker 15: was carrying drugs bound for this country. This is one,

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Speaker 15: of course, in a series of attacks on such boats

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Speaker 15: that we've seen in recent days. But Republican Senator Around

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Speaker 15: Paul says there's been no evidence that those involved actually

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Speaker 15: are drug smugglers.

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Speaker 12: So there's a one in four chance, statistically speaking, that

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Speaker 12: one of these boats may not have had any drugs

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Speaker 12: on it. We will never know because they were blown

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Speaker 12: to smither ring well.

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Speaker 15: The NBC network has reported that Pentagon is drawing up

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Speaker 15: options to target drug traffickers inside Venezuelan. Trump was asked

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Speaker 15: if the CIA has authority to quote take out the

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Speaker 15: president of Venezuela and Nicholas Maduro.

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Speaker 2: His reply, was diculous question for me to be given.

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Speaker 13: Not really a ridiculous question, but wouldn't it be a

507
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Speaker 13: ridiculous question for me to answer?

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Speaker 2: So take that as you will, all right, mate, So

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Speaker 2: you Monday appreciate it. Richard Arnold state so peace in

510
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Speaker 2: the Sidney Morning Herald if you want to read it today.

511
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Speaker 2: He's an interesting bloke. He's Goya called Mark Bryant. He

512
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Speaker 2: lives in Lexington in Kentucky, and for reasons best known

513
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Speaker 2: to himself, I suppose he thinks he's doing some sort

514
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Speaker 2: of community good but he monitors gun violence in America.

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Speaker 2: It's quite an in depth article. He's got a team,

516
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Speaker 2: quite a team actually, that monitors every single shooting in

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Speaker 2: America and on gun violence. It's on average. Well, so

518
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Speaker 2: let me give you so far. This last year, six

519
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Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty one people were shot dead in America.

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Speaker 2: Sixteen thousand, eight hundred and eighty one they're dead, and

521
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Speaker 2: there were thirty one thy seven hundred and ninety injured.

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Speaker 2: So that's a typical year on average. And it's right,

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Speaker 2: he argues. It's remarkably consistent. It varies day to day,

524
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Speaker 2: but overall it's remarkably consistent. There is one hundred and

525
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Speaker 2: fifteen shootings each and every day, every single day in America.

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Speaker 1: Tender way for the Mike Hosking Breakfast with a Vita

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Speaker 1: retirement Communities news togs had been.

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Speaker 2: Just UIs related the cane. I told you Stalentis yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Massive injection into production in America, thirteen fourteen billion dollars worth.

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Speaker 2: No one could work out and we still hadn't been

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Speaker 2: able to whether or not that was pre announceder whether

532
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Speaker 2: or not they're trying to suck up to Trump and say, hey,

533
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 2: look at us, we're putting those money back into America. Anyway,

534
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Speaker 2: the Canadians are ropable because part of that announcement involved

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Speaker 2: them moving the compass. The model comes, you know, the

536
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Speaker 2: Jeep compass. That's a rubbish car. I bought one of those.

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Speaker 2: That was a mistake. Couldn't get rid of it fast

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Speaker 2: enough anyway. No disrespect to Stalantis or Jeep or anyone

539
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Speaker 2: listening this morning, but.

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Speaker 16: I disrespectful to be honest.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, I bought it. I paid with my own money.

542
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Speaker 2: Katie and I were out walking hand in hand and

543
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Speaker 2: we decided we needed a car, and we were walking

544
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Speaker 2: literally past the shop and we said, why don't we

545
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Speaker 2: buy one of those? And we literally walked in and

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Speaker 2: we bought.

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Speaker 16: This reminds me of the time that Sir Paul Holmes

548
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Speaker 16: drove past the miniature horses and decided he wanted a

549
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Speaker 16: bunch of those.

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Speaker 2: I'd rather have a miniature horse than jeep compass. Because

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Speaker 2: we bought in there. It was all these jeep compasses there,

552
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Speaker 2: and I said, which way, I said, this one looks nice,

553
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Speaker 2: I said, and he goes, oh, you're Lucky Day. And

554
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Speaker 2: I thought, oh, you sucked him, good Michael, Ye're Lucky Day.

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Speaker 2: They're on sale, so I bid them down. But anyway,

556
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Speaker 2: no disrespect. What was wrong with it specifically, It's just

557
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Speaker 2: when you got in it, you felt, I mean, they're

558
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Speaker 2: a bit cheap, to be honest. And I got in

559
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Speaker 2: it and I thought, this feels like it's a bit cheap.

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Speaker 2: And we drive it up and down to the country

561
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Speaker 2: for a while and we thought, well is this US

562
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Speaker 2: and she said no, so we got rid of it.

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Speaker 2: Didn't not good resol value, though not bad resoel value.

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Speaker 2: I'll give you that. So for all the JEP people listening,

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Speaker 2: and I mean it didn't.

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Speaker 16: Mean Harris and Ford was probably queuing up for one mimute.

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Speaker 16: It wasn't the electric one, I.

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Speaker 2: Take it, certainly wasn't the electric one. I got to

569
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Speaker 2: use the electric one because the engine and it barely worked.

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Speaker 2: You put the foot down. There's a brand new car.

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00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 2: The Jeep people thoroughly pissed off with me now, So

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Speaker 2: it's just I can say that because I paid my

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Speaker 2: good money and I bought the thing. So I'm entitled.

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Speaker 13: People.

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Speaker 16: You know, they listen to you talk about these things

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Speaker 16: and they go there, guy's got no taste.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to go out and buy one of those

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Speaker 2: sales will go through the roof of Hosking hates. It's

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Speaker 2: got to be good. That'll be what that's about, isn't it.

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00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 2: I was going to give you. I've got some very

581
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Speaker 2: good stats on jobs. The job market, by the way,

582
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Speaker 2: is coming to life. National job numbers. I have to

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Speaker 2: do more of this after eight after seven sometime this

584
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Speaker 2: morning on the program, because I've got no idea what

585
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Speaker 2: any time it is. Anyway, job listings are up thirteen percent.

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Speaker 2: This is good. South Island leading the way as Southland

587
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Speaker 2: to Targo, Canterbury, absolutely fantastic. Tourism is good anyway, let

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Speaker 2: me come back to the number shortly five minutes away

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Speaker 2: from seven.

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Speaker 8: Well, the ins and the outs, it's the fizz with

591
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Speaker 8: business favor take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Is that a record for me? I've told the time

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Speaker 2: wrong twice in one hour. There's gonna be some sort

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Speaker 2: of nowhere here. It's just I'm aware of it. I'm

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Speaker 2: not aware of it. Norton report this morning looks at

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Speaker 2: how we're advertised to how many of us are willing

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Speaker 2: to give away personal info for a couple of bucks off.

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Speaker 2: It's all part of the Norton Gen Threat Report. So

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Speaker 2: thirty one percent of us say we make purchases, especially

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Speaker 2: for holidays like Christmas or Easter, through social media ads.

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Speaker 2: The scam is not too because fifty percent of all

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Speaker 2: scams on social media are links that take you to

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Speaker 2: fake online shops. But that doesn't stop us apparently, I mean,

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Speaker 2: how dumb are we? So, according to Norton, fifty one

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Speaker 2: percent of us so we've given away our personal info

606
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Speaker 2: to receive a discount. Millennials are the worst, aren't they always?

607
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Speaker 2: I mean, isn't it that's just a general statement, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Millennials are the worst doesn't matter what the topic is.

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Speaker 2: Millennials are the worst sixty five percent of getting sucked

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Speaker 2: and gen z forty eight percent so that they'll take

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Speaker 2: unconventional and risky methods to get high demand gifts. Twenty

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Speaker 2: two percent will buy from questionable ads. Fourteen percent will

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Speaker 2: buy from strangers online. Do you know we mis pronounce

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Speaker 2: burken stock? It's burken stock. ID a very interesting article.

615
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 2: It's like Schoder, isn't it. It is like Schoder and Steinlager.

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Speaker 11: Mess.

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Speaker 16: You'd be saying it's pronounced jeep exactly.

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Speaker 2: We aren't convinced chat GBT is going to help us either.

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Speaker 2: Twenty three percent say we use chat GBT to generate

620
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Speaker 2: gift ideas. I mean, what a bunch of losers.

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Speaker 16: Is it true that some generations will drive halfway across

622
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Speaker 16: Auckland for a bar of chocolate?

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Speaker 2: That is so true, It is so true, straight to

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Speaker 2: tacking any in the NICs and gtr SAM, go see

625
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Speaker 2: Sally for the Dubai chocolate. Put it in the boot.

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Speaker 2: Wonder why it's melted when you get home. Fifty seven

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Speaker 2: percent say they're worried they'll fall for an Ai shopping scam.

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Speaker 2: No kidding. Quarter past nine, by the way us for

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Speaker 2: you in a couple of moments. This business of the

630
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Speaker 2: Mowbrays and the laws and the I mean the horse

631
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Speaker 2: has bolted, hasn't it when it comes to online and

632
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Speaker 2: the court reistiction. So we'll have a look at this

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Speaker 2: after the news which is next year of news.

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Speaker 9: Talk A set a plasten on me twice.

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Speaker 1: Credible, compelling, The Breakfast show you can't bess it's the

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Speaker 1: Mic Hosking Breakfast with the Defender Embrace the Impossible news

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Speaker 1: togs dead b seven.

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Speaker 2: So the old what you can say online sigers back

639
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Speaker 2: for another round. This time it's the Mobray family of

640
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Speaker 2: Zuru fame issues around name suppression rumors on TikTok. Isn't

641
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 2: that a weird saying for the aja rumors on TikTok? Anyway,

642
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 2: they wrongly named Nick Mobray as the man from a

643
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Speaker 2: wealthy Kiwi family jailed over child sex abuse material family

644
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Speaker 2: says the rumors of damage and convicted child sex offenders

645
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Speaker 2: shouldn't get their names suppressed now Auckland University Senior Law

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Speaker 2: lecture in Nicky Chamberlain's But it's Nicky.

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Speaker 17: Morning, Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: I find the seedlessly fascinating, don't you. I can't work

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Speaker 2: out a way round this. I mean, the horse has

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Speaker 2: bolted when it comes to jurisdiction and online hasn't it.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, it's it's a real problem. I mean there are

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Speaker 17: various competing interests at play. You know, if you're wanting

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Speaker 17: to go after the actual online provider for defamation, say,

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Speaker 17: for example, are under the Harmful Digital Communications Act, the

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Speaker 17: online providers such as TikTok has a reasonable period of

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Speaker 17: time after they receive notice to take down the offending content.

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Speaker 17: Because obviously an platform like TikTok or Facebook or Twitter

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Speaker 17: or x as it's now known, you know, how are

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Speaker 17: they going to know what's there? You know, people who

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Speaker 17: are on those platforms are posting if it's true or false, right,

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Speaker 17: so they need to receive notice before they can take

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Speaker 17: it down. And as you said, the horse has already

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Speaker 17: bolted to some extent because it's already been up for

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Speaker 17: a period of time and probably shared by by various people.

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Speaker 2: What about the line of being convicted. Now I haven't

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Speaker 2: followed this case, but my understanding is they're appealing. So yes,

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Speaker 2: you're convicted, but you're appealing. I would argue that you

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Speaker 2: still deserve name suppression in case something happens, and therefore

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Speaker 2: you'll not ruin for life reputationally.

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Speaker 17: That's right, that's absolutely right. So you know, while proceedings

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Speaker 17: are still on foot, the name suppression will will I

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Speaker 17: imagine stay in place so that there's no no prejudice.

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Speaker 2: What if you're in charge of everything legally in the world, Nikki,

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Speaker 2: what we do do?

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Speaker 17: Well, that's really a really good question. I mean the

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Speaker 17: first the first thing is that obviously if the person

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Speaker 17: who the statements are being made falsely about knows who

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Speaker 17: the people who are the primary instigators, right, So the

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Speaker 17: person who's actually posting the allegation on the platforms, you

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Speaker 17: would go after them because you can definitely see them

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Speaker 17: in defamation for example, and civil law. You've got the

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Speaker 17: Harmful Digital Communications Act, and in fact there are criminal

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Speaker 17: senses under that act if people make comments which are

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Speaker 17: false allegations.

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Speaker 2: And Nicky, that's fine for the Mowbrays, But for the

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Speaker 2: individual who doesn't have the money, doesn't have a lawyer,

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Speaker 2: and the persons in Louisville, Kentucky, you know, there's nothing

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Speaker 2: you can do, is there.

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Speaker 17: It's really hard, No, it's really hard. Look, you can

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Speaker 17: go to net safe and try to get net Safe

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Speaker 17: to get them to remove the content. But you're going

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Speaker 17: to have jurisdictional issues.

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Speaker 11: Right.

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Speaker 17: Anytime you have an order in New Zealand, it doesn't

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Speaker 17: necessarily take effect somebody overseas because you're going to have

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Speaker 17: to get that order recognized in the foreign jurisdiction for

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Speaker 17: it to then be able to take effect. And so

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Speaker 17: you're absolutely right, it's at that stage going to be very,

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Speaker 17: very difficult for the average Joe blog to be able

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Speaker 17: to be able to get any sort of assistance other

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Speaker 17: than to go directly to the internet provider. But again

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Speaker 17: with reasonable notice. It's not going to come down immediately, right,

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Speaker 17: and the damage may already be done.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate your expertise as always, and you have a good weekend.

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Speaker 2: Nicki Chamberlain, another of the Oakland University. Ten minutes past seven,

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Speaker 2: Pascal Wow, fascinating you fore castpar Our Economy Infometrics thinks

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Speaker 2: the Reserve Bank's going to count next month. Well, hopefully done,

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Speaker 2: we all, but that impact won't flow through until mid

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Speaker 2: next year. Right by that time, they argue your expert

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Speaker 2: raturns and earlier rate cuts they'll have kicked in growth

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Speaker 2: will have fired up and all of a sudden we

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Speaker 2: face the prospect of a bit of overheating. So Gareth

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Speaker 2: Kennan's the infometrics to forecaster of course, and it's back

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Speaker 2: with us. Gareth, Morning, morning, Mike. Haven't talked to you

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Speaker 2: for ages. You're feeling good?

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Speaker 18: Well, I've been taking them happy pills, haven't I It's

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Speaker 18: been a little while since we've talked about upside risks

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Speaker 18: to them.

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Speaker 2: Bring on some overheating. I'm looking well. Whins it arrived?

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Speaker 18: Well, yeah, probably the sort of middle to the latter

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Speaker 18: part of next year. We think the growth will be

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Speaker 18: pushing up towards over two percent. I mean that's not

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Speaker 18: rapid growth, but we're still looking at a picture where

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Speaker 18: population growth is relatively weak, and as you say, over

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Speaker 18: the last couple of years we've had nothing going backwards.

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Speaker 18: So it is looking like better times coming through. But

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Speaker 18: the warriors you get through to twenty twenty seven and

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Speaker 18: then the bank probably need to start hiking rates up again.

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Speaker 2: Now we're talking. Next week we get to read on

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Speaker 2: the inflation, which may well breach three. Is that part

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Speaker 2: of this or do we look through that? But for

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Speaker 2: now and still wait for some real growth to come

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Speaker 2: through in twenty six.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, I don't see a lot of concern around that

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Speaker 18: sort of inflation number next week, although you're right it's

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Speaker 18: close to the top of the target band for the bank.

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Speaker 18: When you look past the sort of electricity, the insurance,

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Speaker 18: the rates, right through most of the rest of the CPI,

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Speaker 18: there's not a lot of price pressures there. It reflects

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Speaker 18: the weak demand across the economy, so quite different to

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Speaker 18: what we were seeing three or four years ago.

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Speaker 2: How confident in this forecast are you?

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Speaker 19: There's still a.

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Speaker 18: Lot of uncertainty out there, let's be honest, and that

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Speaker 18: does factor through into the reserve banks thinking and their

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Speaker 18: decision making at the moment.

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Speaker 19: You know, you've still got.

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Speaker 18: The international situation rumbling on with tariffs and you know

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Speaker 18: what Trump is doing.

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Speaker 19: In that space.

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Speaker 18: You've had a little bit of weakness coming through, not

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Speaker 18: a lot, but just a little bit of cautionary signs

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Speaker 18: in terms of dairy prices and horticulture prices recently as well.

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Speaker 18: And you know, anyone who listens to economists over the

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Speaker 18: last eighteen months will have been told several times that

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Speaker 18: the economy is going to be improving, and they've yet

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Speaker 18: to see it, of course.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Cash rate you say back two three, So

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Speaker 2: remembering it's low twos, cash right back to three by

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Speaker 2: the end of twenty seven. So what you're arguing is

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Speaker 2: we're down and then we're going to fire up, and

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Speaker 2: by firing up, we're back up to three. So it's

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Speaker 2: it's down, then it's up.

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Speaker 11: That's right.

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Speaker 18: Then let's be honest, three percent doesn't really concern us.

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Speaker 18: That's kind of getting back to neutral. The risk for us,

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Speaker 18: and this is not our central forecast, but the risk

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Speaker 18: that we're increasingly starting to become concerned about is that

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Speaker 18: rather than going to three percent by the end of

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Speaker 18: twenty twenty seven, you're back up to four percent and

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Speaker 18: then you've got mortgae tracks up over six percent.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, all right mate, go well, appreciate it. Gareth Kernan

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Speaker 2: out of Infometrics, Brenda mccullums in the country. Of course,

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Speaker 2: we've got the t twenties and the one ODI ice

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Speaker 2: to come ahead of the Ashes. Who we think is

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Speaker 2: he thinking about the ashes that is concerned you know what? Anyway,

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Speaker 2: he's with us up to seven thirty this morning. The

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Speaker 2: Alliance meat Works story yesterday got super fascinating if it

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Speaker 2: wasn't fascinating already. More shortly thirteen past.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 11: At b Mike.

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Speaker 2: So we've gone from survive to twenty five to Heaven

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Speaker 2: and twenty seven. You can own that. By the way,

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Speaker 2: if anyone else steals it, remember where you heard it

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Speaker 2: for sixteen minutes past seven. Now tell you what this

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Speaker 2: next week is going to be fascinating if you're following

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Speaker 2: the Alliance story. So Dawn Meets out of Ireland have

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Speaker 2: offered big money to take a major stake in the

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Speaker 2: meat works. They've lifted their offer yesterday from two fifty

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Speaker 2: to two seventy million, still for the sixty five percent slice.

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Speaker 2: Now the votes Monday. Jeff Grant is the spokesperson for

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Speaker 2: the Alliance Shareholders Group and is with us on this.

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Speaker 2: Jeff money to you.

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Speaker 11: Good morning mate.

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Speaker 2: So here's the interest. Here's what it really got interesting

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Speaker 2: for me yesterday two fifty to two seventy Why suddenly

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Speaker 2: profit Whoop's profit wasn't the argument. We're not profitable, we

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Speaker 2: can't make money, We're never going to be able to

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Speaker 2: pay it back. So we've got to sell. That's the

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Speaker 2: company's argument, isn't it.

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Speaker 20: Yes, And they have a history of being a profitable company,

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Speaker 20: and then two years where they had some abnormal, predictably

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Speaker 20: losses caused by arrange of factors, and then went to

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Speaker 20: the market ferously. You bumbled what you could describe as

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Speaker 20: share raise within the current co op that failed, then

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Speaker 20: went to the market through crags to find an alternative

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Speaker 20: and the solution.

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Speaker 11: Would have probably got survived. That have been fifty to fifty, but.

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Speaker 20: Fifty five percent of the profits going off sure has

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Speaker 20: probably stirred a lot of the farmers. And on the

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Speaker 20: basis of that, in the eighteen months since they Cruz

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Speaker 20: started to raise the cattle, the company has turned around

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Speaker 20: substantially from a seventy million dollar loss to looking like

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Speaker 20: you know, turned around at least ninety twoe hundred million

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Speaker 20: dollars in the last twelve months.

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Speaker 2: Yeah so yeah, See, this is the thing I can't

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Speaker 2: work out. If you're telling me they're not going to

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Speaker 2: be able to get a deal with the banks the

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Speaker 2: debts due in December, they say they can't get a deal.

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Speaker 2: Do the people are against it? Do they believe that

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Speaker 2: or not?

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Speaker 20: Look, two things one is that the proposition put up

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Speaker 20: by the group of five effectively showed between a small

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Speaker 20: amount of debt, some capital sales, and on the basis

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Speaker 20: the shaarholder investment, they could turn it around in three years.

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Speaker 20: You'd have to ask the question though, on the nineteenth

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Speaker 20: of December, with the bank's closed six days before Christmas,

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Speaker 20: just at the start of the major flow of kill

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Speaker 20: both and beef and sheet meat. It makes you wonder

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Speaker 20: in terms of the thinking. Yes, there is a two

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Speaker 20: hundred million dollar loss one hundred and eighty million dollars

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Speaker 20: in debt. There is a one hundred and ninety one

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Speaker 20: million dollar tax loss which will only be able to

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Speaker 20: be used by thirty five percent of this year holding

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Speaker 20: if they went through with the duals. So there are

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Speaker 20: options there and we have explored those as well.

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Speaker 2: And the other thing is what a dorn meets want.

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Speaker 2: Do they want to strip it or they want to

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Speaker 2: grit it? I mean they say they want to grow it,

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Speaker 2: but I mean, how can you grow it If the

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Speaker 2: company's bag it, then it's in so much trouble. What's

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Speaker 2: the magic of Dawn Meats to come in and wave

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Speaker 2: a wand and suddenly do something that you guys can't

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Speaker 2: do anyway.

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Speaker 11: Well you even know what the iris.

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Speaker 20: Might the real scale.

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Speaker 2: Do they have access to Europe and tea?

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Speaker 20: Look, there are some synergies for door meat. They are

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Speaker 20: good operators in terms of the European market, have a

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Speaker 20: higher history be for lesson sheep meat, and I think

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Speaker 20: there are some synergies they could bring. But does that

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Speaker 20: effectively say well, well, actually you've given them the opportunity

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Speaker 20: buy the company at the lowest point of its history

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Speaker 20: and on the basis of the profits projected forward in

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Speaker 20: terms of the reports, will you say, well that was

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Speaker 20: a good deal for them?

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Speaker 2: You reckon? You got the numbers or not.

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Speaker 20: It's like any election in terms of the democratic process.

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Speaker 20: Farmers got a choice of yes or no. We'll know

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Speaker 20: on the day.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic, Well, the day is Monday, so they'll be a

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Speaker 2: bit of talking over the weekend. Of course. I think

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Speaker 2: the meeting opens at eleven a voting at eleven forty five,

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Speaker 2: and it's the next day that election. New Zealand is

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Speaker 2: now that's written with windows eleven. Matt Payne nine game

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Speaker 13: At some point, that at all, that whole thing has

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Speaker 13: to start.

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Speaker 11: Yep.

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Speaker 2: The rest is yet to unfold, of course, but Tuesday

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Speaker 2: was a win for a lot of people. The methane

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00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 2: target seven common sense move of the week crippling the

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Speaker 2: economy while others do little of anything, makes literally no sense.

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Speaker 2: Migration to worry of the week, The fact it's ongoing,

904
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Speaker 2: the fact that they're still leaving while those arriving drop

905
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Speaker 2: off is a long term recipe for disaster. Gail Parata eight,

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Speaker 2: my hero of the week. Standing on principle and speaking

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00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 2: out is increasingly rare these days, So good on her.

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00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 2: HOSPO seven never made as much money as they have

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Speaker 2: this past year. Surely we can celebrate that the Reserve

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00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 2: Banks LBR move this week six the right thing to do.

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00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 2: But ask yourself, what's changed? Apart for one bloke leading

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Speaker 2: the building Hey education seven surely apart from Matt Paine,

913
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Speaker 2: the week's big winner material gains and maths and English

914
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Speaker 2: and phonics hashtag on the right track fung array heads

915
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Speaker 2: seven biggest turn out for the local bodies at fifty

916
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Speaker 2: eight point nine percent. Almost like you kind of like democracy?

917
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 2: Are the BSA two interventionist sticky beak traying it on

918
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 2: full of their own self importance? Picker term the cold

919
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 2: hard truth is very few and broadcasting. I can tell

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Speaker 2: you give a monkey's given their a relevancy. Brian tammocky

921
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Speaker 2: eight good got turned down on closing the Auckland Harbor Bridge.

922
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 2: Are the bridges for transport, not politics? Are the well?

923
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Speaker 2: The All Blacks naming seven first stop Chicago. Now the

924
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Speaker 2: Mike Hosking book is open. It's got all four wins

925
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 2: to the All Blacks with the proviso if we lose one,

926
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Speaker 2: it'll be the first one to Ireland. And that's the

927
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Speaker 2: wet copies on the website and nows so yesterday, by

928
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Speaker 2: the way, marking the week is still covering the Pentagon.

929
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Speaker 2: Hosking right back to those job numbers from trading this morning,

930
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 2: National job market. This is good promising signs of a pickup.

931
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Speaker 2: That's their words, not mine. Listings up thirteen percent compared

932
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Speaker 2: to the previous quarter. South Island off and running south

933
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Speaker 2: and up twenty five A Tigo seven canterboraries six Canterbariyes

934
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Speaker 2: had are court. Number of job listings in the court

935
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Speaker 2: largest volume two overall quarter to quarter increases. That's up

936
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Speaker 2: twenty two percent. What can I tell you? A hospitin

937
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 2: tourism up sixteen, construction roading up thirteen You've got to

938
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Speaker 2: be pleased about that because somebody texted earlier on saying

939
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Speaker 2: that until construction moves, the economy is not moving, which

940
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 2: is probably at least partially right. But I mean construction

941
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Speaker 2: and roading up thirteen percent. Trades and services up eight

942
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Speaker 2: and a half. Nationwide average pay now sits at seventy

943
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 2: two eight hundred and twenty dollars. A number of industries

944
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 2: reached average salary. What have we got banking and financing

945
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 2: into that one hundred and three thousand, healthcare seventy eight thousand,

946
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Speaker 2: manufacturing and ops sixty six, admin sixty seven in the office,

947
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Speaker 2: property one o three, Trades and services seventy three. Our

948
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Speaker 2: top three highest paid roles. If you want to look

949
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Speaker 2: at that, it which is programming and development one thirty five,

950
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Speaker 2: Finance Managers and controllers one thirty two, in business and

951
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Speaker 2: systems analyst one twenty six. See I'd live if you

952
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Speaker 2: were on an average seller. I've said this a million times,

953
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 2: but the average salary around the country is remarkably similar

954
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,240
Speaker 2: no matter where you are. Seventy five in Auckland, where's

955
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 2: Wellington Accountcy Wellington, you probably dropped off the list. He

956
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,919
Speaker 2: go seventy five, and Wellington seventy five, on the West

957
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 2: coast seventy three and Otarga. Basically it's seventy one, two

958
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 2: or three thousand dollars. So if you're on the average

959
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,720
Speaker 2: wage in this country, then why don't you live somewhere cheap?

960
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 2: Why don't you pick somewhere nice with some sun, go

961
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 2: near some beach or some land farmland. See you go

962
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 2: for a walk in the countryside, earn your average salary

963
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 2: in a place that's left. It's less expensive than that.

964
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Speaker 2: Makes seats news for you. In a couple of moments,

965
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 2: then we'll talk cricket with Brendan McCallum. You're at Newstalk zedb.

966
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Speaker 1: No fluff, just facts and fierce debate. The Mike Hosking

967
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Speaker 1: breakfast with Bailey's real estate finding the buyers others can't

968
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Speaker 1: use togs.

969
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 2: Edb between min from being a Friday intimidating did the

970
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 2: work after Murray Oldton from Australia. Their unemployment numbered yesterday

971
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 2: is Andrew alluded to earlier in the program. Doesn't look good.

972
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 2: So for all the people looking to leave New Zealand

973
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 2: for Australia, thinks Angels flashy economically over there as you

974
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 2: might get you ate that school to come. Meantime, Summer

975
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 2: of Creditor is here. The team twenty with England Hagley

976
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 2: able tomorrow which is probably one of the most beautiful

977
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 2: grounds going ahead of the the ODIs as of next week.

978
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 2: England's coaches, of course Brendan McCullum, who's back in the

979
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 2: country and as well as Brendan morning, good morning. I

980
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 2: are you enjoying it all?

981
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 19: Yes, absolutely, I am feel very privileged to be in

982
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 19: a position of men. Obviously England as a sizeable cricketing

983
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 19: nation and we've got obviously a lot of passion and

984
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 19: behind the game, a lot of history and behind our

985
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 19: team and then we've got some some wonderful talent and

986
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 19: some great series that we're a part of. So yeah,

987
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 19: very privileged in the position of men especially. I guess

988
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 19: I've been out of playing too long to pick up

989
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 19: this job and get to work with these guys. Been

990
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 19: a real pleasure.

991
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 2: Do you feel at home.

992
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 19: Yeah, definitely.

993
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 11: Yeah.

994
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 19: Yeah, Well I mean in New Villain now.

995
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 2: No, no, no, within the England environment.

996
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah, so I think. I mean, it's very similar.

997
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 19: The guys are very similar to the KII boys. I've

998
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 19: now been in that job, what three years or so,

999
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 19: and I feel like I've got a really good relationship

1000
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 19: with all the guys who have been around the side,

1001
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 19: whether that's some of the fellows who have moved on,

1002
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 19: all the younger members who have come in. I love

1003
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 19: being a part of sporting teams I've been. I'm a

1004
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 19: social sort of guy and I enjoyed being surrounded by

1005
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 19: a company and trying to give guys opportunities to realize

1006
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 19: their talents. Yeah. I certainly enjoyed myself and Phil at home.

1007
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 2: Cricket isn't the same as some of the other sports

1008
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 2: in terms of nationality. Was it a thing that you

1009
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 2: got appointed the England coach and did that need to

1010
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:44,959
Speaker 2: settle down.

1011
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 19: Look, it wasn't too bad, to be honest, I think,

1012
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 19: you know, I think when I took over the job

1013
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 19: it was a clear thirst for change in a different

1014
00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 19: direction was identified required for then when set up, and

1015
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 19: you know, I guess my skills were kind of suited

1016
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 19: and my approach was suited to the direction that my boss,

1017
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 19: Rob Key and Cricket wanted to take at the time,

1018
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 19: and hence hints why I was put in that position.

1019
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 19: And you know, I think more I've tried to do

1020
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 19: over the last three years, it's been in thick and

1021
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 19: how to. I think that was the style that I

1022
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 19: bring to the job and try and get the very

1023
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 19: best out of all the guys that sit with the

1024
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 19: mat Inland dressing room. I think one thing have which

1025
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 19: is is quite a sizable difference to New Zealand. As

1026
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 19: much as there's there's noise around the performance of the

1027
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 19: New Zealand cricket team, I think we will probably admit

1028
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 19: that the performance of the All Blacks has slightly more

1029
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 19: importance in this country. And if we look at the

1030
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 19: English cricket there is a huge following and behind the

1031
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 19: team and a lot of spotlight. And one of the

1032
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 19: things that I try and do with with this group

1033
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 19: of players is try and quiet and down some of

1034
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 19: that noise so that their skills can come out on

1035
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 19: the biggest stage.

1036
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 2: I'm glad you raise that because I follow I'm big

1037
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,760
Speaker 2: into the British media and it is a thing, particularly

1038
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 2: the tabloids. Is that a pain in the ass.

1039
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 19: It can be if you want, if you want to

1040
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 19: let it get to you. From our point, I remember

1041
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 19: walking into the first press conference I had and after

1042
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 19: being appointed as England coach at Lord's and I remember

1043
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 19: going when I was captain at Gizellamal can only be

1044
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 19: three or four journalists there. I'm always thinking, as much

1045
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 19: as this spotlight on that and this pressure that comes

1046
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 19: with playing at this level, wouldn't it be great if

1047
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 19: we had a lot more following and we're always trying

1048
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 19: to inspire and trying to put out performances which would

1049
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 19: would make cricket more relevant in this country. And when

1050
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 19: I walked into lords, I mean remember there was about

1051
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 19: sixty five journalists there and I thought, a right, shit,

1052
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 19: this is a bit different. So this is what a stage?

1053
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 19: What an opportune then you either let that affect you

1054
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 19: or you see it is what a great platform to

1055
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 19: be able to try and do something special and know

1056
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 19: that this the sport and these guys are going to

1057
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 19: be followed and if you can get it right then

1058
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 19: you've got a great opportunity to try and inspire the

1059
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 19: next the next generation of cricketers, well, the next generation

1060
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 19: of athletes. So I say to choose cricketer over other sports.

1061
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, because the interesting thing is, of course, even though

1062
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 2: we're excited to have you here and this is going

1063
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 2: to be good and all that sort of stuff, if

1064
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,280
Speaker 2: you I'm sure you're aware the Australian media is already

1065
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 2: busy talking up and down the Ashes things, so it's

1066
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 2: it's with you for that period of time. Are you

1067
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 2: aware of that? And how do you distance yourself from

1068
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 2: the Ashes right here, right now to concentrate on what

1069
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 2: you're doing.

1070
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 19: Yeah, I think. Look, the Ashes is clearly going to

1071
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:36,399
Speaker 19: be a massive series. It means so much to both

1072
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 19: countries and we've followed all all around the world and

1073
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 19: there'll be spotlight on our team and the Australian team

1074
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 19: like these guys have probably never had before. Excuse me,

1075
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 19: but from one of the things we try we try

1076
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 19: and do throughout the time that we were in this

1077
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 19: role as trying to try and keep the boys firmly

1078
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 19: grounded on what's in front of us. And we know

1079
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 19: we got to steal a line from Gilbert and Oka.

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Speaker 19: We try and stay with our feedal and we want

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Speaker 19: to We want to make sure that we treat this

1082
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 19: series against New Zealand for a very strong home with

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00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 19: the absolute respect that it deserves, and try and not

1084
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 19: only get perform toos on the field, but try and

1085
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 19: create some memories and some experiences for some guys a

1086
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 19: tour in this country for the first time as well.

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Speaker 2: We had Gilbert and Oker on the program the other day.

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00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 2: Isn't he awesome?

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00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 19: He's brilliant. He's a good maid of mine as well.

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00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 19: And I was lucky when I lived for a period

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00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 19: of time in christ Sheitch. I've actually lived across the

1092
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 19: road from Gilbert and I've got to know him really well.

1093
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 19: I've worked with them throughout the New Zealand cricket throughout

1094
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 19: money Owen cricket career when he's employed in that job,

1095
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 19: and consider him a good friend. He's a wonderful human being,

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00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 19: truly humble, and high performed person in his life, and

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00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 19: he's got wonderful ethics and integrity and he's recently come

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00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 19: on board as a bit of a consultant with US

1099
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 19: England as well. I asked him to join us in

1100
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 19: the small capacity and he's made a sizeable impact on

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00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 19: what we're trying to do and he's the best in

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00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 19: the business of what he does, and we're very lucky

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00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 19: that he's agreed to help us.

1104
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Speaker 2: Fantastic. The all formats thing that you're now in charge

1105
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,919
Speaker 2: of didn't start that way. One was it your plan

1106
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 2: to be in charge, hopefully of all formats? And two

1107
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 2: is that the way to go?

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00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 19: Well, it wasn't my plan to be in charge of

1109
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 19: any formats because I was pretty happy sort of thing

1110
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 19: the life that I had. Had a little sports breakfast

1111
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,439
Speaker 19: show with Israel Dag and we were sort of having

1112
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 19: a bit of fun doing that on the radio, and

1113
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 19: I was doing a bit of cricket commentary, and I

1114
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 19: was coaching over in India with Colcata Night Riders and

1115
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 19: over and the Caribbean with the Trimbagger Night Riders, and

1116
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 19: I was enjoying the next stage of life. But sometimes

1117
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 19: in life, opportunities are too good to turn down, and

1118
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 19: the size of the job and the opportunity to try

1119
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:01,280
Speaker 19: and make sizeable change with the talent that England possesses

1120
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 19: was too good to turn down and ease. When it

1121
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 19: first came up, most people probably thought that I was

1122
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 19: more more suited to the white Ball job. But for me,

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00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 19: my skills aren't really taking teams from good to great

1124
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 19: per se there. That's where I need to bring in

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Speaker 19: some help, and someone like Gilbert's perfect for that. But

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00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 19: my skills are probably more suited to try to big

1127
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 19: a team a bit of soul and to try and

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Speaker 19: strip out a lot of the external noise and the

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00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 19: extra stuff which goes on. And I looked at the

1130
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 19: test site and saw that as a team that had

1131
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 19: won one out of seventeen tests and were clearly clearly

1132
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,760
Speaker 19: keen to change how they approached, and with Ben Stokes

1133
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 19: as captain, who was very aligned to how I like

1134
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 19: to do things, and we've become very good mates since

1135
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 19: we've been in this job, it just seemed like the

1136
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 19: logical choice and the bigger job at at hand. And

1137
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 19: then obviously you know, since then the White Will side,

1138
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 19: after winning two been double world champions, went through a

1139
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 19: little bit of a lull too, so that probably that

1140
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 19: then allowed the opportunity for me to step into this role.

1141
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 19: And I know it's a big role and it was

1142
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 19: quite demanding, and it does mean that there is a

1143
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 19: long time away from home. But I'm very lucky that

1144
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,240
Speaker 19: you get the support of those close to you and

1145
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 19: and they understand that this is a great pleasure and

1146
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 19: a great opportunity to try and do something while you're

1147
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 19: while you've you're you're wanted by an organization. So it's

1148
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 19: good fun. There is challenging days, but the other fun

1149
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 19: days too. It was easy then you know it wouldn't

1150
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 19: be as much fun. So we're very very helpful, humble

1151
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 19: to be in the position that we're in.

1152
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 2: Good on you. I know you're away for a long time.

1153
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 2: I get all of that because it's cricket. But I

1154
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 2: mean you're sitting here talking in the middle of October

1155
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 2: and the dashes aren't over till January. You're away from

1156
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 2: this seems longer than normal. Is that true?

1157
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 19: It is quite Yeah, this would be one of the

1158
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 19: biggest stretches. It's pretty good, pretty good fun, and I

1159
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 19: mean you sit around watch some of the best players

1160
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 19: in the world go about their business. You get to

1161
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 19: play in front of fool houses the whole time. There's

1162
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 19: plenty of eye on the team that you're in charge of,

1163
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 19: and you're playing a bit of golf and having a

1164
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 19: couple of beers and watching guys grow in between. And

1165
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 19: it's a pretty good gag. I must admit it's good.

1166
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 2: That's not the Are you gonna beat us?

1167
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 19: I don't know, we'll find out. I think John's a

1168
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 19: good side. We've bought a strong side here, hopefully no

1169
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 19: early season and you've gone. We get conditions which allow

1170
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 19: us to play both teams playing staining cricket. I think

1171
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 19: in the shorter form of the game. You know, we've

1172
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 19: seen how resourceful news On are, so we we know

1173
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 19: what they're going to bring. Mitchell Satton has done a

1174
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 19: great job since taking over the cap and say as well.

1175
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 19: He's resourceful with his own game, but but also on

1176
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 19: the way it goes about things, and they're in a

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00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 19: bit of transition. Then he's on side, but we certainly

1178
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 19: respect him and know that we're left to be at

1179
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 19: our best to feed him good stuff.

1180
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Speaker 2: Nice to talk to you, mate, I appreciate your time

1181
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 2: very much.

1182
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 19: Pleasure, enjoy listening to you.

1183
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 2: Good on you. Nice to talk to Brendan McCallum. It

1184
00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 2: is thirteen minutes away from.

1185
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: A love Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio

1186
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 1: powered by News Talks.

1187
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 2: It'd be I turn away from a great interview Mike Love,

1188
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 2: hearing from another key at the top of his game,

1189
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 2: chasing the dream on the international stage. It's inspiring. Couldn't

1190
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 2: a dream more? If I had time, and I didn't,

1191
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 2: I was going to ask him about the flint Off

1192
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 2: documentary specifically, and if you haven't seen that, it's I

1193
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 2: Was Torn. It's on Netflix. There's a couple of them

1194
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 2: about that. I'm talking about the original one though we

1195
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 2: first spoke about his accident and sort of you were

1196
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 2: looking for information on the accident because he hadn't spoken.

1197
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 2: But probably the most one of the most moving parts

1198
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 2: in the documentary was when he went back to his

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Speaker 2: old cricket club and they gave him some work and

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00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 2: got him involved. And what the game of cricket and

1201
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 2: the friendship and kinship of fellows sports people did for

1202
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 2: his rehabilitation was really quite moving, and so I was

1203
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 2: interested in what Brendan had to say about that, but

1204
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 2: we didn't have time morning, Mike. It's great to hear

1205
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 2: he was doing well overseas and growing their own brand

1206
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 2: while being very humble. It's true, Andrew Brenda mccollins one

1207
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 2: of the sharpest minds in sport generally. He's a very

1208
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 2: likable guy, which brings me ironically to this text, and

1209
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 2: I wasn't going to raise it until this text. How

1210
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 2: is it Brendan McCullum, Mike is coming on your show

1211
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 2: as he doesn't like you? And in that there is

1212
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 2: a story nineteen.

1213
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 16: I come on every day and I'm not a bigger fan.

1214
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: The Mike Hocking, Breakfast with the Defender and us Tom

1215
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: saed B Mike.

1216
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 2: Don't we have some awesome people representing our country. What

1217
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 2: a nice, humble guy Brendan McCullum and Matt Paine. Yeah,

1218
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 2: we've had a very good week in that particular department.

1219
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 2: But back to the text. Now here was the story.

1220
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 2: One of the great sadnesses of my life was the

1221
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 2: fact that Brendan McCullum allegedly wouldn't talk to me. And

1222
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 2: so this was especially back in the days when he

1223
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 2: got the job, because everyone wanted to talk to Brendan

1224
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 2: mcullum when he got the job, and the reason he

1225
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 2: wouldn't talk to me allegedly, And I got this through

1226
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 2: a guy called Garth Galloway, and I'm sure he won't

1227
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 2: mind me using his name, but Garth's a good guy.

1228
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 2: And Garth and I go back away because Garth's dad,

1229
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 2: Ian Galloway, is a legend of New Zealand cricket and

1230
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 2: Ian and I would sit in a caravan too long

1231
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 2: a story to tell while he did the commentary Central

1232
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 2: Otago eating cherries, and I mean just the Galloway family,

1233
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 2: the nice people in the world. Anyway, Garth was I

1234
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 2: think i'm writing saying, Brendan McCullum's manager for a while.

1235
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 2: Garth's a lawyer, well known, he was his manager. Anyway,

1236
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 2: it all got complicated because they perceived me to take

1237
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 2: the side of Chris Ken's. So if you don't know

1238
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 2: the story, I won't bore you with the detail. But

1239
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 2: Ken's got himself in tremendous trouble legally speaking. A number

1240
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 2: of years ago I observed that when Ken's went to court,

1241
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 2: and I happened to be in England at the time,

1242
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 2: and it went along to the South at court, and

1243
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 2: I watched the trial. It was the most fascinating thing

1244
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 2: in the world. Anyway, I observed that judicially speaking, I

1245
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 2: didn't think that Chris Ken's would be found guilty for

1246
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 2: what he was charged with. Now, McCullum allegedly took that

1247
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 2: as a slight against him, because it was Ken's v. McCullum,

1248
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 2: if you remember it, and McCullum took that as a

1249
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 2: slight against him, and it was never a slight against him.

1250
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 2: But because I don't know Brendan, never talked to Brendan

1251
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 2: about it, but he just sort of didn't like me

1252
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 2: because of that, And so I wasn't siding with taking side.

1253
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 2: I was just making a judicial observation. As it turns

1254
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 2: out judicially, if you followed the story, it turns out

1255
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 2: I was right because Ken's did get found not guilty.

1256
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 2: So I wasn't casting Hissberuss on any individual concern. But

1257
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 2: as a result of that, Galloway once time he said,

1258
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 2: Brendan's never talking to you again, and so the iron

1259
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 2: I thought, well, that's life. But that's a shame, because

1260
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 2: Brendan's a hell of a nice guy and I wouldn't

1261
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 2: mind talking to him. So anyway, I tuned up three

1262
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 2: o'clock this morning and Brendan mccullums on the program, and

1263
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 2: I think, what the hell's happened here? Something we has

1264
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 2: gone wrong here? Does he know who he is talking to?

1265
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 13: Do?

1266
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 2: Did they say when you're coming on ZIB this morning,

1267
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 2: it's guy Hosking's going to be on the other end

1268
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 2: of the line. Was it a surprise when I say

1269
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 2: morning Brendan and you go, it's this Hosking? What happened there?

1270
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 2: But he, you know, maybe maybe the waters of life

1271
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 2: and time have passed enough for him to come on

1272
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 2: the show. My next dilemma was should I raise it

1273
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 2: with him on air? And I thought, no, better or

1274
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 2: not because things went well. I thought things went extremely

1275
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 2: well and I thoroughly enjoyed talking to him, and I

1276
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 2: thank him very much for it.

1277
00:59:56,200 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 1: Right, We'll do the week shortly asking the questions others

1278
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 1: won't the mic asking Breakfast with Vida, retirement, communities, Life

1279
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 1: your Way, News, togs, dead b.

1280
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 2: Who's the perfect me?

1281
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 21: I'm not do it?

1282
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 9: No?

1283
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 2: Really in there before? What has happened?

1284
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 11: Then?

1285
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 2: Quite and I think he's likable too. Now the album

1286
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 2: is not the one he would have made if he

1287
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 2: hadn't been outed by an extra mind. Sun Goes Down

1288
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 2: represents a liberated shift and perspective for Khalid. Khalid album

1289
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 2: is otherwise about temptation, seduction and longing. Actually not unlike

1290
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 2: this program, do you think about it? He co authored

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Speaker 2: Beyonce's Deja Vu. You realize that, so you'll be clipping

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Speaker 2: the ticket on that The money in music is really

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Speaker 2: in the writing, not in the performance. Ask garf uncle,

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Speaker 2: he went at the hard way sixteen tracks of Khalid,

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Speaker 2: fourteen nine minutes and fifty nine seconds. I see, I

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Speaker 2: would have taken the track and not ended it cold,

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Speaker 2: gone over the fifty minute, mate, I mean fifty so

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Speaker 2: much more in presson than forty nine to fifty nine,

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Speaker 2: don't you? Who's sponsoring this.

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Speaker 1: A week in review with two degrees fighting for fair

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Speaker 1: for Kiwi business?

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Speaker 2: Is Khaleig your mate? Tim?

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Speaker 22: I might have beenter viewed him once, swed to the

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Speaker 22: concert when it was spark Arena.

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Speaker 2: Pretty good, so interesting. I remember you telling me the

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Speaker 2: story about you interviewing Khalid and how much you loved him,

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Speaker 2: And yet hear such a short time, lady, you can't

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Speaker 2: even barely remember the guy.

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Speaker 9: Here's the deal.

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Speaker 22: Our first kid took away ninety percent of my memory.

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Speaker 22: The second one took away ninety percent of the ten

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Speaker 22: percent that's left.

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Speaker 2: What's your name again, exactly, Cadie, how are you?

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Speaker 21: I'm excellent, Thank you very much. And I just I

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Speaker 21: would have asked Brendan McCullum about that on it because

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Speaker 21: he might have actually forgot I had forgotten about that,

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Speaker 21: and he may also have forgotten about that.

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Speaker 9: It's like Khaleid.

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Speaker 21: Until he raised it, I was like, oh, that's right.

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Speaker 2: I remember Garth tellouis I hope Garth is a problem

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Speaker 2: with me telling him stories about Garth Galloway's Garth's lawyer

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Speaker 2: is probably going to assume me. But I remember Garth

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Speaker 2: telling me he goes. His words were, and I was

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Speaker 2: really heartbroken by it, And he said, you realize heartbroken? Well, no,

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Speaker 2: I was, because do you know you context?

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Speaker 22: No, exactly Exactlyause here's the thing case I thought we

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Speaker 22: were going to get, you know, when he's like Brendan

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Speaker 22: mcullum wouldn't speak to me. I thought we were going

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Speaker 22: to get a plumbing of the depths of Mike's heart.

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Speaker 22: But it just turned out to be another I was right,

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Speaker 22: are you familiar with those?

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Speaker 11: It was going.

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Speaker 21: I knew that's right, this is going to end, and

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Speaker 21: I was right. But what I think I was right

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Speaker 21: story was he started it with one of my life's

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Speaker 21: great sadnesses, and I thought, well, if that is an

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Speaker 21: over egging something, I'm not sure what it's a great

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Speaker 21: life sadness that Brendan mcullum wouldn't talk.

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Speaker 3: To you of this, it's no.

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Speaker 2: So I think about it from my point of view,

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Speaker 2: from a professional point of view, right, there are certain

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Speaker 2: people in the world that you enjoy talking to, or

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01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 2: you want to talk to, or you'd like to think

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01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 2: that would talk to you, or you get you know

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01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So from a job's point of view,

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Speaker 2: and so there are a lot of people who could go, look,

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Speaker 2: I'm never talking to you again. I can give a monkeys,

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Speaker 2: if not completely celebrate the fact they'll never have them

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Speaker 2: on the program again. But he was like, he's a

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Speaker 2: bright guy, and he's insightful, and he's successful, and you

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Speaker 2: think I'd like to have a relationship with him, you know,

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01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 2: so that because there will be a point down the

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Speaker 2: track where he does something substantive and wouldn't it be

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Speaker 2: good to be able to touch base with him, and

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Speaker 2: that was curtailed, and so especially when the British thing

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Speaker 2: came along, I thought, I'd love to be able to

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Speaker 2: talk to him about that. But you know, Garth said,

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Speaker 2: you realize he's never going to talk to you again,

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Speaker 2: and I thought, so, anyway, it seems to have come right.

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Speaker 2: He's moved on, You've moved on. We all forgot about

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Speaker 2: it until he remembered it.

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Speaker 21: Did Sam give you any insights when you turn up

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Speaker 21: at three o'clock and said, wait, what's he doing on

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Speaker 21: the show?

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Speaker 2: What I've found out? Yeah? No, that's funny. You should

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Speaker 2: say that, because Jason, the boss, was and he reads

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Speaker 2: the set up the night before and he go, he

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Speaker 2: was surprised. You just told her. He was surprised that

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Speaker 2: he was on. Sam was away yesterday and didn't have

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Speaker 2: any inkling of what was going on the show. And

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Speaker 2: so I said to Sam this morning, I said, what's

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Speaker 2: the story of the McCallum And he goes, wouldn't have

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Speaker 2: the slightest idea I've been away. You know how people

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Speaker 2: go away for a day, they take a day off,

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Speaker 2: and they come back and pretend that nothing's happened, and

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of that.

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Speaker 9: He was getting the dogs fades eight and a half

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Speaker 9: hours in the car.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you about the story about the spain. So, okay,

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Speaker 2: sam Sammy, Now this is what is Katie? What is Sammy?

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Speaker 2: Sammy's a millennial? Is he a gen Z? To Jennelfa,

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Speaker 2: what is he?

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Speaker 21: I think he's a millennial?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So that's the problem with millennials.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, it'd be at the top, it'd be at the

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Speaker 22: bottom end of millennial almost gen z, I think so.

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Speaker 2: And this is the problem with these people. So he

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Speaker 2: counter afford a dining table, count afford a dining table,

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Speaker 2: but he can afford nineteen thousand dollars for a crockadoodle do.

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Speaker 2: And so he goes and buys a pure bred dog.

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Speaker 2: And so part of the deal was he has to

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Speaker 2: take the dog back to the special vet that they

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Speaker 2: had requested, which happens to be in another town hours away.

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Speaker 2: And I said to Sammy, I said, you do realize

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Speaker 2: it's the Ponzi scheme, don't you that the breeder flicks

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Speaker 2: the money off to the vet and the whole thing's

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Speaker 2: dodg Yes, because the dog's getting spaded. It's not brain

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Speaker 2: it's not it's not brain surgery. He's not having a

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Speaker 2: heart transplant. He's just getting spade. So so he sets

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Speaker 2: off at four thirty yesterday morning, and then it and

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Speaker 2: GTR and all the way, hours and hours and hours

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Speaker 2: in the traffic, and then of course you dropped the

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Speaker 2: dog off and the dog's going to have a several

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01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 2: hour operation, then several hours of recovery. So Sam's just

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Speaker 2: wandering around the mountains, and the cafes and the beaches

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01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 2: were just filling in time, and then he's got to

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01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 2: pick the dog up and then he's got to take

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Speaker 2: it all the way back to walking. So he was

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Speaker 2: on the road yesterday sixteen hours. It was a sixteen

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Speaker 2: hour day in the GDR, along with the operation just

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Speaker 2: for this die dog and the Ponzi scheme you bought him.

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Speaker 11: Couldn't he have done?

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Speaker 9: Couldn't he have done?

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Speaker 22: I mean, what seems a bit slack here, Mike. I mean,

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Speaker 22: if he's why is he wandering around the mountains and

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Speaker 22: drinking coffee?

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Speaker 9: Little bit of set up for you.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't agree that there was phone coverage. He could

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Speaker 2: have set Brendan McCallum up exactly, but anyway, we had exactly,

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Speaker 2: we had the villains, we had the Fillin's doing. And

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Speaker 2: what a great job the fillins did. They got me

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Speaker 2: Brendan McCallum, the greatest interview that I hadn't done yet I.

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Speaker 22: Wanted to do about forget about peace between Israel and Gaza.

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01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:22,919
Speaker 9: Brenda McCallum, I asking.

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Speaker 2: Say no more.

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Speaker 1: Thirteen past eight, The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio, cowered by News.

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01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 2: Talks A sixteen past eight, The week.

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Speaker 1: Ind Review with two degrees bringing smart business solutions to

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Speaker 1: the table.

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Speaker 2: Sixteen hours and the GDR Mike, how can you afford

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01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 2: the fuel Jupiter? Buy a dining table? That's what I

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Speaker 2: keep telling him. For goodness sake, Sam, Is there a

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Speaker 2: warranty on the dog or something? Just go to an event?

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Speaker 9: What to keep telling it?

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Speaker 2: Young ones won't listen to all they guys, I've.

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Speaker 21: Got a You might have Brendan McCallum on side, but

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01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 21: you don't have me, because this week I might need

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01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 21: to hire your garth Yelloway, I might need to hire

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01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 21: a lawyer because I notice, Actually I didn't notice because

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Speaker 21: I was on court at the time.

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Speaker 2: But the boss in court on.

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01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 21: Court rackets, and the boss sent me a link to

1444
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 21: an interview you did with the head of the BSA

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01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:16,439
Speaker 21: where you threw me right under the bus and said,

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Speaker 21: you're taking up a shue with Sean Plunketts whatever platform.

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01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 21: What if I want to take issue and go to

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Speaker 21: court over my wife's Instagram And she said, well, that's interesting,

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Speaker 21: And you said, what if she's out in the field

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Speaker 21: saying what Sean's saying, which car suspersions that I would

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01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 21: ever do such a thing. And she goes, well, that's interesting,

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Speaker 21: that's something we would have.

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Speaker 17: Why would you flag the same my Instagram.

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Speaker 2: Mediation required here to what I'm saying. What I was saying, Tim,

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Speaker 2: and I think you'll agree with me on this is.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't suggesting Katie would go down the Sewan Plunkett track,

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Speaker 2: because who does, and look where it's got them. What

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Speaker 2: I was suggesting is Katie's big on Instagram. She's got

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Speaker 2: a very large Instagram following, and therefore is that is

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Speaker 2: you do and there's that a radio show or the

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Speaker 2: equivalent of a radio show and sort of thing they

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Speaker 2: would look at as a radio program and therefore potentially ping.

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Speaker 22: Her because but says she was about whether the BSA

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Speaker 22: has jurisdiction over the Internet or just telecommunications based communications,

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Speaker 22: and that's yeah, yeah, and Glenn, I think yes.

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Speaker 2: Glenn makes a very good point if they did look

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Speaker 2: at Katie's Instagram as a radio program a lot. There

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Speaker 2: are two things on Katie's Instagram that would be problematic

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Speaker 2: for the BSA. One of the nudes of me, and

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Speaker 2: the other one is the Warriors. Is the Warriors video

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Speaker 2: of me swearing and swearing and so exactly, well, it's well,

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Speaker 2: it's also the drinking. It's the drinking, drinking and we're

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Speaker 2: blind a lot better.

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Speaker 19: And the nudity.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, a lot there that it would be upheld. But

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Speaker 21: I think the best part of that interview actually was

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Speaker 21: when she said she knows how intimidating it is for

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Speaker 21: people to receive a.

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Speaker 19: Letter from the BSA and you burst out laughing rightly.

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Speaker 2: So at that point she got carried.

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Speaker 11: Away with how important they think they.

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Speaker 2: Might be and they're not. Do you know, we sat down,

1483
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 2: we're in the in the news break and we would talk.

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01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 2: I asked, I said, when was the last time this

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Speaker 2: company had one of those decisions in the BSA that

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Speaker 2: actually counted for something, you know, in other words, somebody

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01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 2: here did something egregious and they had to come back

1488
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Speaker 2: with a fine or something. And when there was silence

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01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 2: in the room, we couldn't think of one. They suggested

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01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 2: that there was a year ago one of the stations

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01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 2: down the stairs did something stupid and that was it.

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01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 2: So I mean, you've got to ask the question whether

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Speaker 2: the BSA is actually fit for purpose of any use

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01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 2: to anybody. And by and large, we regulate ourselves in

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01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 2: a very professional manner, and there's no need for some

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01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 2: sort of overlord to tell us what to do and

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Speaker 2: how to act.

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Speaker 11: Is there.

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Speaker 21: Well, they certainly can't start policing the Internet. That's not

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Speaker 21: going to happen. And I don't know that's the thing

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Speaker 21: about wearing out, but it's like it's going nowhere.

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Speaker 22: Surely no, is it, Because there's not much to do

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Speaker 22: in the telecommunications media. They are sort of looking around

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01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 22: into the Internet.

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Speaker 2: But I reckon they're playing politics. I think what it

1506
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:54,679
Speaker 2: is to him is they're playing politics at the moment.

1507
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:57,719
Speaker 2: I think they're making a play for some sort of relevancy.

1508
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:00,560
Speaker 2: It's like the Mowbrays with this business of the you know,

1509
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:04,680
Speaker 2: the name suppression and the reality of online stuff. You know,

1510
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 2: when TikTok is outing somebody allegedly, whether legally or not,

1511
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 2: while it's illegal, but whether accurately or not. I mean

1512
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 2: the horse bolted, there's there's no there's no one Kin

1513
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 2: Wellington with a clipboard. Who's going to stopping at that?

1514
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 11: Are they?

1515
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 4: No?

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01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 11: That's exactly because it.

1517
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 21: Is tiktoks of wash with misinformation, and that's where young

1518
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 21: people get a lot of their news. So that is

1519
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 21: actually really distinct. I feel so bad that people have

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01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:28,600
Speaker 21: to come out and defend themselves against that.

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01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:30,639
Speaker 9: But but here's this is all premise.

1522
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 22: This is all premised on the fact that people actually

1523
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 22: believe what they need to do on social media.

1524
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 23: Tim, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not convinced

1525
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 23: and trust at twenty twenty four, he always have one

1526
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 23: of the highest levels of distrust of social media in

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01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:47,080
Speaker 23: the world.

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01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:49,720
Speaker 2: No, and let me give me the example, Katie, was

1529
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 2: it you that was telling me the other day Reba McIntyre,

1530
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 2: Riba McIntire came out the other day how Old's river

1531
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 2: seventy something, seventy one or two, whatever it is. Riba

1532
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 2: McIntire came out the other day to deny the reports

1533
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 2: on social media that she was pregnant. Because people believe

1534
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 2: she was pregnant, that's.

1535
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 21: Because they did an AI video of her holding up.

1536
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:11,599
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. It's how stupid some people are.

1537
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:13,600
Speaker 2: And when you're dealing with that level of stupidity, how

1538
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 2: do you fight that?

1539
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 22: There's always look, there'll always be examples.

1540
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 11: But I do I do?

1541
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 19: I have?

1542
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:23,639
Speaker 22: I have I guess the confidence that New Zealanders can

1543
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 22: because we saw we're pragmatic. People would sniff out byes

1544
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 22: just like just like Brendan McCullen did.

1545
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 2: What sort of Macavelli you laugh? Was that at the end? Actually,

1546
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 2: I tell you what, I'll give you that.

1547
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 22: Actually it was it was a pause because I thought, actually,

1548
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 22: that's not a very good line at all.

1549
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 9: It wasn't Macabellian.

1550
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:44,599
Speaker 22: It was a recognition of one's own lameness.

1551
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 2: I'll give you a counter, Brendan McCallum, and that was

1552
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 2: John Mayer. John Mayer was in the studio and he

1553
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 2: said to me, you know, there's it's just talking about

1554
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,200
Speaker 2: relationships and people. You see again, you like it, John

1555
01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:56,720
Speaker 2: Mayer said to me as he left the studio as

1556
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 2: I tell you what, Mike, I know we're going to

1557
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 2: meet again, and I thought, no, we're not. No, I

1558
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 2: can see, I can see, I could see right through it.

1559
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 11: See.

1560
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 2: I felt like saying, John, that's a line. You know,

1561
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:07,720
Speaker 2: it's a line. You're never coming again, And to this

1562
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 2: day he never has.

1563
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 22: Don't give me, don't give me your cheap, muscular American conviviality.

1564
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 9: I know I'll never see you.

1565
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 2: But see, I felt bad about that because when I

1566
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:19,599
Speaker 2: watched him in the concert for the raising the money

1567
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 2: for the Fires of Los Angeles, he was the highlight

1568
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 2: of the show. And you just stood on stage, three guitars,

1569
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 2: three songs, and he was phenomenal. And at that particular point,

1570
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:31,599
Speaker 2: I felt, yeah, he is telling it. And I felt

1571
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 2: at that point I'd like to see John again, and

1572
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:36,040
Speaker 2: I hope he was honest, but I don't think he.

1573
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 21: Will wellular one of particularly sadness is for you that

1574
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:41,560
Speaker 21: you might not get to see John, which wok it

1575
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 21: up as another great sadness of life.

1576
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 16: Setting it up now, setting it up now.

1577
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:49,799
Speaker 2: He can't do it today because he's got the afternoon

1578
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 2: off and a bit of a slash ol on Monday.

1579
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 2: But Apart from that, he'll get to it as soon

1580
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:55,719
Speaker 2: as he can next week. Nice to see you guys,

1581
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 2: Tim and Katie. They'll be back next week, will you.

1582
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 2: I'm sure they will.

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Speaker 2: Pattie does to me at home? I'm getting a bit emotional,

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01:13:57,600 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 2: the older I get a bit emotional. So you think

1605
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 2: about life and times and things that you think, oh yeah, no,

1606
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 2: that'll be nice to do and okay, just she's hard.

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Speaker 2: Home cake makers, this is the weirdest story of the week.

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01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:17,840
Speaker 2: Announced yesterday, the government government are loosening the rules for

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01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:22,639
Speaker 2: home based cake makers. They want to reduce compliance costs

1610
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 2: and paperwork for low risk businesses like home based cake

1611
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 2: How many home bake home based cake makers are there?

1612
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 2: If you are a home based cake maker, what are

1613
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 2: the rules and compliance issues that you face and do

1614
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 2: you have any indication as to what David Seymour and

1615
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 2: Andrew Hoggart will be doing to make your life easier.

1616
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 2: This all came out dozens of tips, apparently on the

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01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 2: red Tape tip line. So let me know and we'll

1618
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 2: talk about it in the next half hour of the program. Meantime,

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01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,600
Speaker 2: stand by were across the Tasman to Australia and the

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Speaker 2: Mighty murray.

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Speaker 1: Olds opinion ed, formed, unapologetic, the mic hosting Breakfast with

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Speaker 1: the Defender, embraced the impossible news togs dead b micha.

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Speaker 2: Ah home baker must comply to MPI restaurants standards at present,

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01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 2: including fees, inspections and paperwork. Mike, the quintessential New Zealand

1625
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 2: home baking is so hard to offer to anyone because

1626
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:20,559
Speaker 2: you must have a food safety approved kitchen with all

1627
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:21,439
Speaker 2: the bibs and bobs.

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01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:22,519
Speaker 11: I love that.

1629
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:24,759
Speaker 2: I haven't heard that phrase for years. Bibs and bobs

1630
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 2: just to make about your biscuits. Getting rid of this

1631
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 2: regulation's fantastic standby for better baking. It a stall near you. Well,

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01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 2: Seymour can tindly that up. That's encouraging. I'm pleased to

1633
01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:34,920
Speaker 2: hear that. Twenty three minutes away from.

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01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 1: Nine International Correspondence with ends and eye Insurance, peace of

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01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business.

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01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 2: Mike murray Old is will to tell are you man?

1637
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:44,599
Speaker 2: Are you on the are you on the old cell phone?

1638
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 2: That's right? Because your your WhatsApp doesn't work? How are

1639
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:47,880
Speaker 2: you hey?

1640
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 11: Good morning, Mike? Pretty well after a busy week. Thank you,

1641
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 11: pray Have you been busy?

1642
01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:51,760
Speaker 2: What have you been doing?

1643
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 11: Playing a lot of bad golf? Have you?

1644
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:54,920
Speaker 2: What are you on these days?

1645
01:15:55,680 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 11: Twenty two? Still I can't get me lower even birdies.

1646
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:03,679
Speaker 11: The other day in the round three birdies, three birdies.

1647
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 11: I also had about eight to three parts and three

1648
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 11: wipes a little bit.

1649
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 2: So what was your best booty? Was a birdie on

1650
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 2: the path three? Or a part four?

1651
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 11: Or I've burted a part three and two. I've blurted

1652
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 11: apart four and two part three and got closest to

1653
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 11: the pen of the second.

1654
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 2: See here's the thing. Here's that when I was playing

1655
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 2: golf many many years ago, I've played like off a

1656
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 2: sex right now. My problem was. My problem was I

1657
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 2: couldn't drive, so I got no distance, so I had

1658
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 2: to use a three wood, and I couldn't put, and

1659
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 2: so to get a birdie was like seriously unusual. So

1660
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:38,560
Speaker 2: to get three birdies, you must be you must have

1661
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 2: the real potential to be quite a good player.

1662
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 11: I had three birdies in the one round for the

1663
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 11: first time in my life. In my life, that was

1664
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:50,560
Speaker 11: on the Wednesday, in the Wednesday camp Wow. But but

1665
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 11: as I say, I had a better white and I

1666
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:56,120
Speaker 11: was three patted dreadful.

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Speaker 2: Jeez, unemployment you still got have you still got job?

1668
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:02,439
Speaker 2: Is cleaning? Many other people inn't well.

1669
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 11: Four point five percent in September. That's the highest unemployment

1670
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 11: rate in four years, a surprise result of all the

1671
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:12,679
Speaker 11: economists are expecting pretty much as she you know, steady

1672
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 11: as she goes at four point three percent. The stat

1673
01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:17,880
Speaker 11: that has emerged it's more than a thousand people a

1674
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:21,759
Speaker 11: day became unemployed in September. It was modest job growth,

1675
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 11: but you know that's what that says. There's a lot

1676
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 11: of businesses out there that are trying to save money.

1677
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:30,880
Speaker 11: They're trying to strip out costs, and you do that

1678
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 11: by getting rid of staff. I mean, have a look

1679
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:35,880
Speaker 11: at at the A m Z Bank, I mean the

1680
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:40,599
Speaker 11: new boss. There is sacking of people. So and also

1681
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 11: there are people out there now actively looking for work

1682
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:45,240
Speaker 11: in a way that perhaps they haven't done in recent times.

1683
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 11: What Boos does, of course, is put pressure on the

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01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 11: Reserve Bank that meets again on Melbourne Cup date November

1685
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 11: the four and and you know that they are expecting

1686
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:58,640
Speaker 11: that interest rates will be you know, the cash rate

1687
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 11: will be cut once again. So it could be a

1688
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:01,719
Speaker 11: Christmas present.

1689
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Speaker 2: So it's a funny old it's funny old economy of yours.

1690
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 2: I follow it very closely. So the problem with the

1691
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 2: cutting of the rates is, of course it fires up

1692
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 2: the housing market, and a housing market was already fired off,

1693
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 2: so you're off to the races on that. But at

1694
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 2: the same time and the same economy that people can't

1695
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 2: pay enough for a house. If they can afford a house,

1696
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 2: they can't get a job.

1697
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:23,200
Speaker 11: Yeah it's I hadn't thought of it quite that way,

1698
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 11: but there you go. That's why you're the King Analyst

1699
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:30,879
Speaker 11: of Australian economics. In the same week, you've got consumer

1700
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 11: sentiment at a twelve months low. People are a bit

1701
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:37,519
Speaker 11: bleak about, you know, where the economy is going. And

1702
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:40,560
Speaker 11: you've also had the government a pretty dramatic backflip on

1703
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 11: its plans to shake up a superannuation sector. So look,

1704
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 11: the government's listening and it's still enjoying massive, massive support

1705
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 11: compared to the you know, the Liberal Party over here

1706
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 11: is just pulling itself to pieces. The speeches this week,

1707
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 11: Oh we have to unite, and I mean the instant

1708
01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 11: response from both wings, the moderates and the Conservatives we're right, Rah,

1709
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 11: follow us Rah. No one's listening to them, and Susan

1710
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:10,599
Speaker 11: Lee has crashed In one month. She's gone down by

1711
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 11: fourteen percentage points in terms of people enjoying the way

1712
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 11: she's running her place. The party itself was still only

1713
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:20,840
Speaker 11: ten points different in terms of the two party or

1714
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:23,639
Speaker 11: third vote over year. It's fifty five to forty five

1715
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Speaker 11: Labor over the coalition. But Susan Lee's personal rating has

1716
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 11: just came straight down through the cellar. It's terrible for her.

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01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:34,719
Speaker 2: So how long before someone has a cracketer?

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Speaker 11: Well, no one's doing numbers apparently, and it would just

1719
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 11: be a terrible look. Mike. I mean, you know, you've

1720
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 11: got a woman who clearly is trying very very hard.

1721
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 11: I mean people could see her. She's out there every day.

1722
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 11: Whether they're listening to what she has to say is

1723
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 11: another thing, but she's clearly out there every day doing

1724
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:54,639
Speaker 11: her best. Are you really going to replace a very busy,

1725
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:58,639
Speaker 11: active woman who's got a terrific backstory with some bloke

1726
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 11: like Angus Taylor. But he's sharpened a blue suit and

1727
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:04,719
Speaker 11: it's far too soon for a guy like Andrew Hasty.

1728
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 11: He's got a young family he's not going to make

1729
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 11: that five hour trip over the Perth, you know, going

1730
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 11: to the party room, pick some bums and then hop

1731
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:13,719
Speaker 11: on the plane back to Perth again another five hours

1732
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:15,880
Speaker 11: and the play. It's too soon for him, maybe ten

1733
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 11: years time if he's still around. But he is regarded

1734
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 11: by his own colleagues, by some of them anyway, as

1735
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:24,880
Speaker 11: a goose sitting in front of a big Ford muscle

1736
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 11: car saying we're going to build stuff again. Well, hello Andrew,

1737
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 11: No mate, no, we don't build those things anymore. This

1738
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:33,679
Speaker 11: is silly.

1739
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Arion titmus. I assume people who know her here,

1740
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 2: but she's it's hard to it's hard to overstate how

1741
01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 2: big a deal she isn't swimming in Australia. But I

1742
01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:44,960
Speaker 2: watched her interview yesterday in retiring, which had correct me

1743
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 2: if I'm wrong. It did come out of the blue,

1744
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 2: but she seemed at peace with it. She wasn't. It

1745
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 2: wasn't one of those times where they sort of break

1746
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 2: down and know it's been one of it. She seemed

1747
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:55,559
Speaker 2: just sat there and very calmly said, no, that's me done.

1748
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 2: She's only twenty five.

1749
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Speaker 11: That's the way she's conducted herself ever. Since she's been

1750
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:02,760
Speaker 11: competing at the elite level. And she's been compared this

1751
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 11: morning to Ash Barty, who retired, as you may recall,

1752
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 11: as the world number one of tennis. And she said,

1753
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 11: that's it. I'm done too. I mean, Tipmoss has done

1754
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:12,960
Speaker 11: it all. You know, a two Olympic Games. She's got

1755
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 11: eight Olympic medals, four of them gold, Paris and Tokyo.

1756
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 11: Nine World Championship medals. She won four times as a

1757
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:22,920
Speaker 11: world champion. Now she had a breakouf to Paris and

1758
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:25,439
Speaker 11: she says, you know what, that's it. Ash Barty quit

1759
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 11: tennis and went away and had a baby and who knows.

1760
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:31,280
Speaker 11: I mean, Tipmoss has made no you know, announcements along

1761
01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 11: those lines. She's going to get she'll get married and

1762
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 11: have above and so on. But she is a weapon

1763
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:38,320
Speaker 11: and she's been really in many many ways the heart

1764
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:40,679
Speaker 11: and soul of the Australian swimming teams. She's full of beans.

1765
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 11: She gets out there. She's just dropped this determination. She rapped.

1766
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 11: Katie Ladecki is the goat right and Ariy you know

1767
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:51,559
Speaker 11: the American swimm of the distance women. Ari and tipmas

1768
01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:56,920
Speaker 11: cleaned her clock twice. That's really, really good and.

1769
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 2: Once she Yeseda, she's obviously had some, she said, she's

1770
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:01,519
Speaker 2: had some healthy you. She didn't elaborate on what there were,

1771
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 2: but as she said, if I'd known Paris was it,

1772
01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:06,800
Speaker 2: I would have enjoyed my last race more so. I

1773
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:09,760
Speaker 2: think there's a tinge of regret. But I wonder if

1774
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 2: there's just a new generation. You talk about Bartie, you

1775
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:15,599
Speaker 2: talk about timmus because you know swimming, You swim from

1776
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:18,120
Speaker 2: the age of four or five, and you're in the

1777
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:20,599
Speaker 2: poll at four in the morning for god knows how

1778
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 2: many hours your hear goes yellow because of the chlorine,

1779
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 2: and at twenty five to just say that's me done

1780
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:31,840
Speaker 2: must be something powerfully psychological, mustn't it, Because I mean,

1781
01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 2: you've given you literally your life to this, and I

1782
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:36,479
Speaker 2: would have thought you'd want to eke out every last minute.

1783
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:39,640
Speaker 11: Oh for sure, there's no doubt about that. I've been

1784
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 11: many swimmers over the years. They talk about that, you know,

1785
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 11: you hear a white line fever on the roads. They

1786
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:46,639
Speaker 11: talk about black line fever. You're swimming up and down

1787
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 11: the pool and you got that black line at the bottom,

1788
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 11: and that's your life. Yeah, you mentioned health issues for

1789
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:54,880
Speaker 11: tipmos My memory serves me correctly. She had some sort

1790
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:57,800
Speaker 11: of a varian cancers something along those lines. It was

1791
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:01,120
Speaker 11: pretty serious, but treatment and she came back from that.

1792
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 11: And you know, and she's an all round great guy,

1793
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:06,360
Speaker 11: a great field, no doubt about it. She's popular, she's

1794
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:09,400
Speaker 11: a hell of an athlete, and she's she's quit at

1795
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:10,720
Speaker 11: the top of a game. Well done, hurt.

1796
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:13,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, just real quick. This Airbnb cap see, I thought

1797
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 2: this was for socialist nations like Spain and stuff. But

1798
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:17,680
Speaker 2: how are you going to how are you going to

1799
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 2: catch chunks of Sydney Airbnb? I mean, if I own

1800
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:22,760
Speaker 2: a house and I want to let it out to people,

1801
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 2: I mean, who are you to tell me I can't.

1802
01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:27,120
Speaker 11: Well, no one's going to say you can't. They're going

1803
01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:29,000
Speaker 11: to put a cap on an amount of days you

1804
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 11: can do it.

1805
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:32,760
Speaker 2: Who the hell are you to tell me what I

1806
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:33,639
Speaker 2: can do with my house?

1807
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 11: No, that's true, it's true. It's going to be a

1808
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:39,880
Speaker 11: delicate balancing act. But they've got to do something. This

1809
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 11: is it's been, It's already in place, I think up

1810
01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 11: in fire and bars. If you go to bar and bar,

1811
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:48,600
Speaker 11: you've got the Glipsey Beach frump with all these zillionaires

1812
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:52,200
Speaker 11: and their man buns sitting around serving fifteen dollars buddy beers.

1813
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 11: And you only have to go back two blocks and

1814
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:57,679
Speaker 11: you've got row after row of empty shops. There's nothing there.

1815
01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 11: All you've got is the little crust on the pie.

1816
01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 11: The rest of the pie is dreadful. So they haven't

1817
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 11: posed a I think it's sixty days a year you're

1818
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 11: allowed to, you know, to put your property on AIRB

1819
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 11: and B sixty days. That may be a little bit short,

1820
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:15,800
Speaker 11: it may be eighty, but in any event, you're right.

1821
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:19,760
Speaker 11: They are trying to impose caps on people letting out

1822
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:22,799
Speaker 11: their properties. The idea, of course, is to encourage longer

1823
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:26,160
Speaker 11: term rentals, but smarty pantss with man buns can make

1824
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 11: a hell of a lot more on three weekends. And

1825
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:31,320
Speaker 11: they can and you know, three months in actually renting

1826
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 11: out their properties. How you fix this?

1827
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 2: I have no idea, Mike, No, But that's why we're

1828
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:37,680
Speaker 2: on the radio, not running places. Mate, go well, but

1829
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 2: we enjoy it though, and at least you're quite good

1830
01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:42,639
Speaker 2: at it. Murray Holds Out of Australia fourteen to nine.

1831
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:48,120
Speaker 1: The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by news talks.

1833
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Speaker 2: That be Mike, you couldn't drive, or part you down

1834
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:55,720
Speaker 2: to a six. Seriously, six handicappers Mike on average one

1835
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 2: to do birdies each run, though berdies. So what you're

1836
01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 2: doing is you're questioning my with a six handicap. I

1837
01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 2: can feel how that's coming through what I was to

1838
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:05,439
Speaker 2: be fair When I say I couldn't drive, couldn't part,

1839
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:08,400
Speaker 2: I was being I was being modest, which is my want,

1840
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:11,880
Speaker 2: and so I was actually exceptionally good. But what I'm

1841
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:14,760
Speaker 2: saying is that I didn't have a tailor made driver,

1842
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:17,840
Speaker 2: not the brand. I didn't have a fitted driver. I

1843
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 2: had one off the shelf, so being slightly shortish of stature,

1844
01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 2: or maybe I bought a very long driver, I don't know. Anyway,

1845
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:25,160
Speaker 2: I couldn't couldn't swing it. So I ended up with

1846
01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:27,200
Speaker 2: a three. So I used my three and three was accurate,

1847
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:28,960
Speaker 2: but I didn't have the distance. So when you don't

1848
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 2: have the distance, say on a par four year, seconds

1849
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:33,760
Speaker 2: always longer than it needs to be. Fortunately, because I

1850
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:35,880
Speaker 2: was on a six handicap, I was quite good. So

1851
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 2: I put the ball towards the green, so I was accurate,

1852
01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:41,599
Speaker 2: but it was always a long part if not a chip,

1853
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 2: So instead of going for a birdy, realistically, I was

1854
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:47,960
Speaker 2: looking to save par Hence I spent most of my

1855
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:51,680
Speaker 2: time saving par and not getting many bodies. And that

1856
01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 2: was my difficulty. And then the other problem with not

1857
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:55,400
Speaker 2: being able to part particularly well when you get you know,

1858
01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 2: when you're half decent, you get with an ite and

1859
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 2: I say, twelve feet year ago, that's easy, but I

1860
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:02,720
Speaker 2: wasn't like that. Twelve was like could might not? That

1861
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 2: was my problem.

1862
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Speaker 16: Shall we ask the listeners what they find more interesting?

1863
01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 16: You're boring golf stories, or you're boring dart stories, or

1864
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:15,599
Speaker 16: your boring snooker stories, or just city?

1865
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Speaker 2: Are you still here? Pen morning, Mike, great to book

1866
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:25,200
Speaker 2: end today without standing our Tigo performers McCallum and tonight's

1867
01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:28,200
Speaker 2: MPC semi final in Dunedin. Sam, you enjoy that tonight

1868
01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:31,519
Speaker 2: because next week, when you're in the final against Canterbury,

1869
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:34,880
Speaker 2: I've got nothing but bad news for you. Nine Away

1870
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Speaker 2: from nine.

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Speaker 2: dot co dot in z. Lasking Mike Glarry Williams said

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Speaker 2: you were bloody useless at golf. Yeah, I know, but

1893
01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 2: Larry's a liar. That's why we got rid of them.

1894
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:39,799
Speaker 2: Five minutes away from nine.

1895
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Speaker 8: Trending now with chemist ware house great savings every day.

1896
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Speaker 2: Mitch McConnell's back in the news for all the wrong reasons.

1897
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:50,400
Speaker 2: Remove this bit. This week it's been good by Barris

1898
01:27:50,479 --> 01:28:00,679
Speaker 2: and cooperation and a strain of Manlissy just FROs. People

1899
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:02,680
Speaker 2: couldn't work out whether he couldn't remember what he was

1900
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 2: saying or he was frozen in the Pistons game. You

1901
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 2: used to go back to the office meant anyone then anyway,

1902
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:21,360
Speaker 2: but not just that. There was this one what am

1903
01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:22,120
Speaker 2: I taught about?

1904
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Speaker 9: What running for re election in twenty four?

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01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:26,760
Speaker 11: Oh so.

1906
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:33,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, frozen again business?

1907
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 20: Did you hear the question, senator?

1908
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:38,640
Speaker 2: And she was only two inches away from it? Did

1909
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:39,479
Speaker 2: you hear the question?

1910
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:40,000
Speaker 11: Senator?

1911
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Speaker 2: And then this morning we've got this listening. He was

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01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:01,360
Speaker 2: literally walking along and he fell over.

1913
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:03,760
Speaker 16: Which was quiet achievement because he seemed to have a

1914
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:06,240
Speaker 16: person on each side of him, sort of almost holding

1915
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:07,080
Speaker 16: him by the elbow.

1916
01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:10,280
Speaker 2: They failed in their job. They've failed in their job. Miserable,

1917
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Speaker 2: They picked him up, he turned around, he raised his

1918
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Speaker 2: hand and that was the sound with some sort of

1919
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:19,599
Speaker 2: indication that he might still be alive or all right.

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Speaker 16: He's got a week into Bernie's and you've got to

1921
01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:23,600
Speaker 16: do a better job than that.

1922
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Speaker 2: I thought they'd closed the place down and they would

1923
01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:28,200
Speaker 2: have sorted that out with him. But hey, the Circuit

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Speaker 2: of the Americas this weekend one of the obviously the

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Speaker 2: best of the circuits as far as the f one's concerned,

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Speaker 2: because Miami's a joke and Vegas as a shambles. So

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Speaker 2: the Circuit of America's at least is a proper racetrack.

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Speaker 2: And it's a big track too, with lots of fast corners,

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Speaker 2: and you have to I think you probably don't know

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Speaker 2: about red Bull red Bull seen back. I don't know

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Speaker 2: normally bade them McClaren. But anyway, we look for Liam

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Speaker 2: to have a very good weekend and hopefully we can

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Speaker 2: talk about it when we rejoin you on Monday. As always,

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Speaker 2: Happy Days.

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