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Speaker 3: New Zealand Cricket this week revealed the upcoming summer schedule

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Speaker 6: They are part.

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Speaker 3: That is so true, Paul, that is so true. That's

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Speaker 3: So how will today's youngsters fall in love with cricket?

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Speaker 3: Your chance to react now, Oh eight hundred and eighty

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Speaker 3: Just don't get run over.

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Speaker 10: won that Test Championship over and over at Lord's Yep.

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Speaker 10: I feel like that was the best squad that we had.

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Speaker 10: And then the following year, but it's completely changed the squad.

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Speaker 10: We had a great team, we had a great finally

433
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Speaker 10: had some rhythm, and then it feels like new players

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Speaker 10: come in and then the sort of the field of

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Speaker 10: the team changed and we sort of dropped off. I mean,

436
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Speaker 10: you've got to go these young guys ago, which is understandable,

437
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Speaker 10: but I feel like what you guys are saying is

438
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Speaker 10: true is sort of the test. The love for Test

439
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Speaker 10: cricket dropped off. It's exciting in summer, you know, sitting

440
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Speaker 10: down what's the heat watching test cricket, yep, And I

441
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Speaker 10: feel like we need to get back to that because

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Speaker 10: it's exactly why I got into it to start with

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Speaker 10: six years ago.

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Speaker 4: But now I don't.

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Speaker 10: I don't watch it, so something needs to change.

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Speaker 8: You're definitely right, Yeah, I want to.

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Speaker 3: I reckon. What I'll happen with you, Corey is when

448
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Speaker 3: the black Caps go back to Australia at the back

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Speaker 3: end of next year, so the summer of twenty five,

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Speaker 3: twenty six Boxing Day Test. I think we've got four

451
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Speaker 3: tests over there this time instead of three. Hopefully will

452
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Speaker 3: be a bit better than when we went to nineteen twenty.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, hopefully your you know, your love of test

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Speaker 3: cricket will be reinvigorated by that, and others as well

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Speaker 3: will jump on.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, maybe I just don't have the time these days.

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Speaker 3: There too, there is that team I hear you, Corey.

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Speaker 3: Good on you mate, Well, thanks for taking time to

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Speaker 3: call us. It's been great to chat to you. Enjoy

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Speaker 3: the rest of your walk, mate. Half past twelve is

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Speaker 3: the time I eight hundred and eighty ten eighty grant

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Speaker 3: with you. Right after the speel line there. If you

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Speaker 3: want to jump aboard I eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 3: Bevan Jacobs is on the show before one, one of

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Speaker 3: the new wave of New Zealand cricketers. He'll debut almost

466
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Speaker 3: certainly for the team when they got to Zimbabwe in

467
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Speaker 3: South Africa next month. But we're talking the way we

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Speaker 3: fall in love with the game, but also the structure

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Speaker 3: now of the home summer and the lack of international cricket,

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Speaker 3: particularly this summer between Christmas and the middle of March.

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Speaker 3: Back after this on Weekend Sport.

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477
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Speaker 3: taking your calls. We're talking cricket though until one no

478
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Speaker 3: test cricket in Auckland once again says this text. I

479
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Speaker 3: think that ship sailed, hasn't it. I don't think we'll

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Speaker 3: see test cricket at Eden Park again to shame for

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Speaker 3: our biggest, biggest catchment. But until they develop Colin Maiden

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Speaker 3: Park into something close to a Test venue, which again

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Speaker 3: I don't think is happening. I'm not sure we see

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Speaker 3: test cricket in Auckland for the foreseeable future and maybe

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Speaker 3: for the mid to long term as well. Grant, thanks

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Speaker 3: for holding make good afternoon.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, Piney, Yeah, it isn't the twenty twenty World Cup

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Speaker 11: in January. In February.

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Speaker 9: It is.

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Speaker 3: It is, and that's I should have mentioned that. You're right, Grant,

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Speaker 3: it is and just as the champions trophy was sort

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Speaker 3: of around that time this year, that's the reason you're right.

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Speaker 3: Why why you know there's a lack basically of any

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Speaker 3: red ball cricket after Christmas. But also I guess the

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Speaker 3: black Caps want to get across. I think they've got

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Speaker 3: some warm up games in India before the T twenty

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Speaker 3: World Cup in Sri Lanka. So yeah, I mean the

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Speaker 3: fact remains, though it's a gaping hole in our home schedule.

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Speaker 11: Oh yeah, yeah, because nowadays, of course, with twenty twenty

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Speaker 11: being the big money spinner, they seem to have World

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Speaker 11: Cups every two years instead of every four.

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Speaker 3: Years the annual before you know it.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, so maybe next season what might be all dogcas

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Speaker 11: will be in Australia January February next season.

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Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's more December. I think

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Speaker 3: it's December January over there. And that is a hugely

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Speaker 3: anticipated tour. Granted, I remember in You Will Too and

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Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, or back into twenty nineteen into early twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty when we had the chance to go to Australia

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Speaker 3: three Tests, Boxing Day Test, all this high excitement. Then

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Speaker 3: we got over there and lost all three Tests heavily.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, I think the reason is Piney. They

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Speaker 11: didn't do the Darwin thing. Now do you remember that

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Speaker 11: way back in the eighties when they'd go same time

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Speaker 11: early season to play Australia, they would go up to

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Speaker 11: Darwin because they play their cricket and sort of winter

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Speaker 11: if you like. So the end of the winter they

518
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Speaker 11: would have two weeks up in Darwin. They would play

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Speaker 11: pay the club, the Darwin club cricketers that have two

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Speaker 11: weeks off, and so for every day for two weeks,

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Speaker 11: the New Zealand team would be playing games against these

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Speaker 11: in these club cricket. Of course, they were thrilled to

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Speaker 11: bits of all to play an international team. We get

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Speaker 11: sort of compensated as well, but it meant that when

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Speaker 11: they hit the first Test, they were primed. Do you

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Speaker 11: remember when they hit their first Test in Brisbane, Richard Hadley.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I remember it.

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Speaker 3: I remember it like it was yesterday, Grant. And you're

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Speaker 3: so right because when they went, when they went the

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Speaker 3: last time twenty nineteen, they just basically rocked up for

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Speaker 3: the first Test without any any warm up games at all.

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Speaker 3: And I think they hopefully have taken some lessons from that.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, don't want we don't want another repeat of what

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Speaker 11: happened then.

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Speaker 12: But I mean, I'm like all forms of cricket whichever.

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Speaker 12: When I'm watching, we're watching test cricket. You know, it's

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Speaker 12: a good test matter like that good good twenty twenty game.

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Speaker 12: I like that had in a good over game.

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Speaker 3: I like that.

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Speaker 11: And I mean, I don't know whether i'd really want

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Speaker 11: to have say, six tests in a summer, you know,

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Speaker 11: three before Christmas and three after. It's that old thing

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Speaker 11: of less is more, ye know. I I hope we

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Speaker 11: don't have a wet early summer like we can have

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Speaker 11: and the sort of you know, most of the tests

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Speaker 11: are white rained out or something.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just like to see us play two different

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Speaker 3: teams in test cricket grant. And I'm not sure that's

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Speaker 3: too much to ask, because it's been been managed pretty

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Speaker 3: much every summer since, not since time began, but since

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Speaker 3: we've been playing Test cricket. We've got a couple of

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Speaker 3: Test matches, you know, against one team before Christmas or

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Speaker 3: early in the new year, and then another team would

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Speaker 3: turn up again. I know, and yes, it's it's the

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Speaker 3: fact that there is a T twenty World Cup to

557
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Speaker 3: prepare for that we don't get this opportunity. But it

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Speaker 3: just feels to me as though, you know, now that's

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Speaker 3: two summers in a row where you put away the

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Speaker 3: white clothing internationally after Christmas, and I just hope it

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Speaker 3: doesn't become the new normal. Good on your grant, Always

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Speaker 3: good to chat, Jason. My year old daughter says this text.

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Speaker 3: Fell in love with Test cricket after watching the Test

564
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Speaker 3: on Amazon. She now follows the Aussie Test team more

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Speaker 3: than the black Caps. Goodness me. She's also hoked on

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Speaker 3: the Big Bash. Yeah, well, maybe we need to do

567
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Speaker 3: a reality series on the black Caps. All names of

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Speaker 3: that series, prospective names of that series are warmly encouraged.

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Speaker 13: Hello, Chris, Hi, Jason.

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Speaker 2: Look, a couple of things. Firstly, I mean, how could

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Speaker 2: you not fall still fall in love and test cricket

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Speaker 2: that first test that ad headingly, you know, three fifty

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Speaker 2: runs a day. And the huge criticism is of course

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Speaker 2: that Sky to Sky two years on, it's still got

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Speaker 2: no contract with ECB, so we don't give them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mean that's that's been brought up by

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Speaker 3: a few people and I'm not sure that we'll get

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Speaker 3: an answer here, Chris, you know why they haven't purchased it,

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Speaker 3: But you're right, and we can watch Australia West Indies

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Speaker 3: on ESPN, but yeah, no way of watching England India,

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Speaker 3: which is a shame because I think thousands would watch it.

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Speaker 2: The other thing is, the other problem is like with

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Speaker 2: which alluding to what you're talking about now about the

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Speaker 2: lack of Test cricket after Christmas. Here the problem as

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Speaker 2: I see it is now, I mean the wisdoms as

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Speaker 2: as you are. We're absolutely blasted the way the World

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Speaker 2: Test Championship run, these these these first three and I

588
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Speaker 2: mean one of the big problem is India. India now

589
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Speaker 2: have demanded five five tests home and away every time

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Speaker 2: they play Australia in England like the Ashes, so that

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Speaker 2: makes it impossible for what should happen is that every

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Speaker 2: team in the World Test Championship to play each other

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Speaker 2: in a three test series.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Chris, and you know as well as I do,

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Speaker 3: why that won't happen. It's all the mighty dollar, right,

596
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Speaker 3: it's the mighty dollar India or the roost in world cricket.

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Speaker 3: They want to play the best teams most off in

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Speaker 3: England and Australia. It's becoming a bit of a test

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Speaker 3: try series in many ways, and the rest of us

600
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Speaker 3: have to pick up the scraps and, like Paul Ford says,

601
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Speaker 3: organize these things ourselves, not the icy C. They're not

602
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Speaker 3: coming in as right, exactly what you just said. Everybody

603
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Speaker 3: plays everybody in three test series. We put it into

604
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Speaker 3: the calendar and away we go. They leave it to

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Speaker 3: the national associations themselves to organize this stuff. I mean

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Speaker 3: it's hardly leadership, is it, right.

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Speaker 2: But also you've got to remember that the Board of

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Speaker 2: Indian Cricket don't want to play us anyway. After again,

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Speaker 2: with that, what's three little India? We're good for them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Maybe you're right, Chris, maybe they're steering away from us.

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Speaker 3: You're right that was a great series. Wasn't it good

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Speaker 3: to tet to you?

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Speaker 8: Chris?

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Speaker 3: Thanks? Indeed, what happened to the Boxing Day test at

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Speaker 3: the Basin, asks Mike Ye. That came and went fairly quickly,

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Speaker 3: didn't it? It was great when it was here. First one

617
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Speaker 3: was in ninety eight. From memory, I think Simon Dill

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Speaker 3: got seven for in that game. The West Indies came

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Speaker 3: the following years and Babwe, Bangladesh, India, Pakistan. Remember Pakistan

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Speaker 3: came to the Basin and absolutely she'll act us because

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Speaker 3: Sharp Acdar came charging in and got six for not

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Speaker 3: many in New Zealand second innings. I'm not saying that's

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Speaker 3: the reason they stopped, but they did stop after that,

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Speaker 3: and there have been One day Internationals and T twenties

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Speaker 3: replacing it on Boxing Day. There was a Boxing Day

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Speaker 3: test in twenty fourteen at Hagley Oval, New Zealand beating

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Speaker 3: Sri Lanka. And there was also one I'd forgotten this

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty. Pakistan came over here and played a

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Speaker 3: test match at bay Oval across Boxing Day. Just before

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Speaker 3: we go to a break and get Bevin Jacobs ready

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Speaker 3: to have a chat to us. Interesting point made here

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Speaker 3: on text as well. Why are the West Indies tests,

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Speaker 3: the first two scheduled to start on a Tuesday and

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Speaker 3: a Wednesday, Because you're right, normally a Test match will

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Speaker 3: start on a Thursday or a Friday, so you get

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Speaker 3: the guts of the test match across the weekend. The

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Speaker 3: answer is, I think that they've got to get them in.

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Speaker 3: If they're going to have three tests, they've got it.

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Speaker 3: They've only got so many days in December. They've got

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Speaker 3: to get them in. But look if current if current

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Speaker 3: test match etiquette has anything to go by, we're not

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Speaker 3: going to get to the weekend.

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Speaker 6: You look at.

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Speaker 3: Australia and the West Indies at Barbados three day Test.

645
00:32:03,947 --> 00:32:06,867
Speaker 3: We don't get any five day Test matches. So yeah,

646
00:32:06,867 --> 00:32:09,027
Speaker 3: it's a good point when there's a lot going on

647
00:32:09,107 --> 00:32:12,147
Speaker 3: in December. It just wondering how bigger crowds are they're

648
00:32:12,147 --> 00:32:15,027
Speaker 3: going to be. But the other side of that is

649
00:32:15,027 --> 00:32:17,627
Speaker 3: that if you want to watch test cricket here in

650
00:32:17,667 --> 00:32:20,707
Speaker 3: New Zealand, you do it in December, so hopefully people

651
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Speaker 3: will turn up for it. Eighteen away from one when

652
00:32:23,547 --> 00:32:27,067
Speaker 3: we come back. Bevan Jacobs potential debutant for the black

653
00:32:27,107 --> 00:32:29,227
Speaker 3: Caps when they hit to Zimbabwe in South Africa next month.

654
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Speaker 3: He's going to join us for a chat.

655
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Speaker 1: Don't get caught off side call eight hundred eighty ten

656
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Speaker 1: eighty Weekend Sports with Jason Pain and GJ. Gunnomes, New

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Speaker 3: Twelve forty five. Just reminder Scott Robinson and Studio between

659
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Speaker 3: one and two taking your calls. Auckland AS's batter. Bevan

660
00:32:46,627 --> 00:32:49,267
Speaker 3: Jacobs meantime in line to make his Black Caps debut.

661
00:32:49,547 --> 00:32:52,187
Speaker 3: He's been included in the fifteen strong squad for next

662
00:32:52,227 --> 00:32:55,867
Speaker 3: month's T twenty try series with South Africa and hosts Zimbabwe.

663
00:32:55,987 --> 00:32:58,987
Speaker 3: Hitting in the air all the way for six Jacobs.

664
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Speaker 14: We know what he can do.

665
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Speaker 12: It's an outstanding piece of timing and it brings up

666
00:33:02,467 --> 00:33:03,307
Speaker 12: his fifty as well.

667
00:33:03,347 --> 00:33:04,787
Speaker 3: From just thirty three.

668
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Speaker 14: Balls eves crazy.

669
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Speaker 15: He's got such a long stripe tossed up and he

670
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Speaker 15: said I'll have a piece of that straight over along off.

671
00:33:10,627 --> 00:33:11,787
Speaker 10: Great way to bring up fifty.

672
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Speaker 3: Bevin Jacobs, the only uncapped player in the touring party

673
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Speaker 3: here is with us now. Congrats on your selection, Bevin.

674
00:33:17,507 --> 00:33:20,107
Speaker 3: How excited are you to be named again in a

675
00:33:20,147 --> 00:33:22,347
Speaker 3: New Zealand squad, having of course been named in that

676
00:33:22,427 --> 00:33:25,107
Speaker 3: one to face Sri Lanka back in December, but not

677
00:33:25,107 --> 00:33:26,067
Speaker 3: getting onto the field.

678
00:33:26,787 --> 00:33:28,307
Speaker 4: Thanks Jason, You're very excited.

679
00:33:28,827 --> 00:33:31,067
Speaker 8: You know, I really can't wait to travel with the groups,

680
00:33:31,147 --> 00:33:34,907
Speaker 8: get back with them, you know, since being amongst that

681
00:33:34,987 --> 00:33:37,627
Speaker 8: tour with Sri Lanka over here, I mean it was

682
00:33:37,707 --> 00:33:39,227
Speaker 8: it was a great bunch of lads, and yeah, I'm

683
00:33:39,267 --> 00:33:40,947
Speaker 8: just looking forward to being with the group again.

684
00:33:41,227 --> 00:33:44,187
Speaker 3: Even though you didn't take the field in those three matches,

685
00:33:44,347 --> 00:33:47,507
Speaker 3: was there still value for you in being in the environment.

686
00:33:48,387 --> 00:33:50,587
Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely. You know, you've got world class players in.

687
00:33:50,547 --> 00:33:52,627
Speaker 8: That group and a lot of guys that are easy

688
00:33:52,667 --> 00:33:54,907
Speaker 8: to have conversations with, you know, very approachable. They made

689
00:33:54,947 --> 00:33:57,747
Speaker 8: the environment seem really open, and you know, it was

690
00:33:57,787 --> 00:33:59,627
Speaker 8: easy to talk to them and you pack their brains

691
00:33:59,627 --> 00:34:01,907
Speaker 8: and learn from them because there's a wealth of knowledge

692
00:34:01,907 --> 00:34:03,867
Speaker 8: there that I'd like to try and tap into and

693
00:34:03,867 --> 00:34:06,227
Speaker 8: I have that opportunity, and you know that that was

694
00:34:06,347 --> 00:34:08,827
Speaker 8: really something that they looked after well for me when

695
00:34:08,827 --> 00:34:09,347
Speaker 8: I was with them.

696
00:34:09,467 --> 00:34:11,147
Speaker 3: Was it challenging not playing though? I mean I think

697
00:34:11,147 --> 00:34:12,427
Speaker 3: everybody wants to play, don't they.

698
00:34:13,227 --> 00:34:15,187
Speaker 8: Yeah, of course, you know, it's obviously it's something you

699
00:34:15,187 --> 00:34:17,387
Speaker 8: want to do. Like you, as I've said many times,

700
00:34:17,667 --> 00:34:19,747
Speaker 8: you know, representing New Zealand's is the dream of mine

701
00:34:19,747 --> 00:34:22,867
Speaker 8: playing for the black Cats, so obviously, like one part

702
00:34:22,867 --> 00:34:24,267
Speaker 8: of you is guarded that you don't play, but the

703
00:34:24,307 --> 00:34:26,547
Speaker 8: other part, you know, it's just it's really grateful for

704
00:34:26,587 --> 00:34:28,747
Speaker 8: the experience and being able to be amongst the gud

705
00:34:28,827 --> 00:34:30,987
Speaker 8: and and you know, chat to them and learn something

706
00:34:31,027 --> 00:34:32,827
Speaker 8: new about your game as well. So there's always there's

707
00:34:32,827 --> 00:34:33,827
Speaker 8: always two sides of the coin.

708
00:34:33,987 --> 00:34:35,867
Speaker 3: Well, I feel like your time will be coming in

709
00:34:35,907 --> 00:34:38,347
Speaker 3: the next month or so. Just before we get onto that,

710
00:34:38,707 --> 00:34:42,947
Speaker 3: tell us about your experience and the IPL in recent weeks.

711
00:34:43,347 --> 00:34:44,907
Speaker 4: Yeah, IPL was was amazing.

712
00:34:44,947 --> 00:34:49,507
Speaker 8: I mean the amount of experience and world class players

713
00:34:49,507 --> 00:34:50,907
Speaker 8: in that group, you know, second to none.

714
00:34:50,947 --> 00:34:53,067
Speaker 4: So that was really special for me.

715
00:34:53,107 --> 00:34:56,707
Speaker 8: Being able to challenge myself, especially in those overseas conditions,

716
00:34:56,747 --> 00:34:58,467
Speaker 8: being in India for the first time, it was all

717
00:34:58,947 --> 00:34:59,787
Speaker 8: it was all new to me.

718
00:34:59,867 --> 00:35:01,307
Speaker 4: So yeah, being able to be put.

719
00:35:01,227 --> 00:35:04,547
Speaker 8: Under the pump and be challenged world class bowlers on

720
00:35:04,947 --> 00:35:07,387
Speaker 8: those sorts of conditions was was really beneficial for me

721
00:35:07,427 --> 00:35:09,467
Speaker 8: in my game. And then just having those those players

722
00:35:09,467 --> 00:35:11,427
Speaker 8: around me who I could you know, talk to and

723
00:35:11,467 --> 00:35:13,867
Speaker 8: have conversations with and learn something about them to bring

724
00:35:13,867 --> 00:35:14,547
Speaker 8: into my own game.

725
00:35:14,747 --> 00:35:16,147
Speaker 3: Well, so that was your first time over there, bit

726
00:35:16,187 --> 00:35:17,707
Speaker 3: of an assault on the scene, says, your first time

727
00:35:17,707 --> 00:35:19,427
Speaker 3: in India area in the IPL.

728
00:35:20,267 --> 00:35:20,827
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a.

729
00:35:20,827 --> 00:35:22,827
Speaker 8: Bit of a bit of a change of scenery for

730
00:35:22,867 --> 00:35:25,107
Speaker 8: me from usual. So it was definitely you know, you

731
00:35:25,147 --> 00:35:28,467
Speaker 8: always hear the stories and everything about everyone's experiences and

732
00:35:28,507 --> 00:35:30,467
Speaker 8: the IPL, but to actually be there, you know, you

733
00:35:31,027 --> 00:35:34,827
Speaker 8: experience it yourself as something pretty special and quite different obviously,

734
00:35:34,867 --> 00:35:36,827
Speaker 8: So yeah, it was. It was pretty awesome to be

735
00:35:36,907 --> 00:35:37,307
Speaker 8: part of it.

736
00:35:37,427 --> 00:35:39,307
Speaker 3: Let's talk about the type of cricketer that you are.

737
00:35:39,667 --> 00:35:42,387
Speaker 3: You filled a couple of different roles during your time

738
00:35:42,787 --> 00:35:45,147
Speaker 3: at the elite level in T twenty, I remember you

739
00:35:45,307 --> 00:35:47,107
Speaker 3: was sort of a finisher when you were with Canterbury.

740
00:35:47,107 --> 00:35:49,907
Speaker 3: You've moved further up the order with Auckland. Where do

741
00:35:49,987 --> 00:35:52,107
Speaker 3: you prefer to bat in T twenty cricket?

742
00:35:53,027 --> 00:35:55,707
Speaker 8: Yeah, Look, for me, I think at the moment, I'm

743
00:35:55,707 --> 00:35:58,267
Speaker 8: just trying to do my job for what's best for

744
00:35:58,347 --> 00:36:00,227
Speaker 8: the team, and you know, I felt with Auckland that

745
00:36:00,387 --> 00:36:02,187
Speaker 8: I was fortunate enough to move up the order and

746
00:36:02,667 --> 00:36:04,067
Speaker 8: have a little bit more time in the middle for

747
00:36:04,107 --> 00:36:06,707
Speaker 8: me to bat, and that's where I fit best amongst

748
00:36:06,747 --> 00:36:08,387
Speaker 8: the group, and I'm pretty happy to bout there, you know.

749
00:36:08,427 --> 00:36:13,587
Speaker 8: I think middle order for my current progression, I guess,

750
00:36:13,627 --> 00:36:15,067
Speaker 8: and for where I sit right now with my career,

751
00:36:15,067 --> 00:36:17,427
Speaker 8: I'm I'm pretty happy there, and you know, to try

752
00:36:17,467 --> 00:36:20,267
Speaker 8: and have that responsibility on me to finish the endings.

753
00:36:20,267 --> 00:36:21,987
Speaker 8: It's obviously it can be a tough role, but it's

754
00:36:22,067 --> 00:36:23,907
Speaker 8: it's it's something that I've had a little bit of

755
00:36:23,907 --> 00:36:26,067
Speaker 8: success with in the in the short time, and hopefully

756
00:36:26,107 --> 00:36:26,507
Speaker 8: I can.

757
00:36:26,387 --> 00:36:29,507
Speaker 3: Continue that on what match situations are different. But what

758
00:36:29,587 --> 00:36:33,227
Speaker 3: is your general approach to batting and T twenty cricket?

759
00:36:34,187 --> 00:36:36,507
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, look, for me, I think it comes back

760
00:36:36,547 --> 00:36:39,347
Speaker 8: to kind of trusting my skills and making sure that

761
00:36:39,347 --> 00:36:41,987
Speaker 8: when I'm out there, I'm pretty focused, I'm present and

762
00:36:42,027 --> 00:36:42,747
Speaker 8: I'm just reacting.

763
00:36:42,787 --> 00:36:42,907
Speaker 4: You know.

764
00:36:42,947 --> 00:36:44,587
Speaker 8: I feel like when you play your best cricket, you're

765
00:36:44,627 --> 00:36:46,307
Speaker 8: kind of in that zone and you're acting. Obviously you've

766
00:36:46,307 --> 00:36:48,267
Speaker 8: got a game plan out there, you're reading the situation.

767
00:36:48,867 --> 00:36:51,787
Speaker 8: But I guess, just me personally, I'm always trying to

768
00:36:51,787 --> 00:36:55,187
Speaker 8: play a positive brand of cricket, and positive can look

769
00:36:55,467 --> 00:36:58,307
Speaker 8: in different ways on different conditions, and sometimes it means boundaries.

770
00:36:58,387 --> 00:37:01,667
Speaker 8: Sometimes it's just it's at the crease or being busy,

771
00:37:01,787 --> 00:37:03,867
Speaker 8: et cetera, et cetera. But I think the most important

772
00:37:03,867 --> 00:37:05,227
Speaker 8: thing about me and my role is to make sure

773
00:37:05,347 --> 00:37:08,307
Speaker 8: I'm just reading the game and knowing what's best of

774
00:37:08,347 --> 00:37:10,027
Speaker 8: the team in that current situation.

775
00:37:10,267 --> 00:37:13,147
Speaker 3: You're well known as a power hitter. Where do you

776
00:37:13,267 --> 00:37:14,627
Speaker 3: generate the power from?

777
00:37:16,187 --> 00:37:17,467
Speaker 4: I mean power heading?

778
00:37:18,267 --> 00:37:21,987
Speaker 8: It does come from a lot of training. Obviously, there's

779
00:37:22,027 --> 00:37:24,507
Speaker 8: that that's massive and probably the biggest aspect on it.

780
00:37:24,507 --> 00:37:26,547
Speaker 8: I'd like to work on it specifically and have a

781
00:37:26,547 --> 00:37:29,867
Speaker 8: separate part of my training sectioned off for tile hitting,

782
00:37:29,867 --> 00:37:33,227
Speaker 8: where I focus on overheading and underheading and hand speed,

783
00:37:33,267 --> 00:37:35,187
Speaker 8: et cetera, et cetera. I could delve a little bit

784
00:37:35,227 --> 00:37:37,387
Speaker 8: deeper into that at a later time, but that is

785
00:37:37,387 --> 00:37:39,907
Speaker 8: obviously that section. And then I guess I just try

786
00:37:40,227 --> 00:37:43,507
Speaker 8: to use, you know, some of the natural stuff that

787
00:37:43,507 --> 00:37:45,547
Speaker 8: I've got, like my heights and my levers to my

788
00:37:45,587 --> 00:37:47,547
Speaker 8: advantage as well to try and make sure I can

789
00:37:47,627 --> 00:37:49,507
Speaker 8: use that as an extra bit of power in my game.

790
00:37:49,787 --> 00:37:52,427
Speaker 3: When you're looking at developing your T twenty batting, are

791
00:37:52,427 --> 00:37:55,707
Speaker 3: you looking to find new scoring areas or is it

792
00:37:55,707 --> 00:37:58,787
Speaker 3: more about being more effective in the ones which are

793
00:37:58,907 --> 00:38:00,267
Speaker 3: already prolific for you?

794
00:38:00,987 --> 00:38:03,707
Speaker 8: Yeah, I reckon it's about finding the right balance between

795
00:38:03,707 --> 00:38:06,707
Speaker 8: the two, because obviously there's for me, there's is I've

796
00:38:06,747 --> 00:38:08,827
Speaker 8: got my strengths and things that I like to gravitate

797
00:38:08,867 --> 00:38:11,347
Speaker 8: towards too, and that, like you say, are prolific for me,

798
00:38:11,907 --> 00:38:14,107
Speaker 8: and what people look at when they see me is

799
00:38:14,107 --> 00:38:16,187
Speaker 8: they see that. And then obviously there's that balance between

800
00:38:16,187 --> 00:38:18,307
Speaker 8: me trying to find cool how the other ways I

801
00:38:18,307 --> 00:38:21,107
Speaker 8: can challenge myself or off put the bowler and find

802
00:38:21,147 --> 00:38:23,707
Speaker 8: ways to score in different areas, and then that brings

803
00:38:23,747 --> 00:38:25,587
Speaker 8: my strengths back into the game when they have to

804
00:38:25,667 --> 00:38:27,747
Speaker 8: change the field and et cetera, et cetera. So I

805
00:38:27,747 --> 00:38:29,827
Speaker 8: guess that's where it also comes into reading the game

806
00:38:29,867 --> 00:38:32,787
Speaker 8: situation where I am in the middle, and then obviously, yeah,

807
00:38:32,827 --> 00:38:35,427
Speaker 8: trying to balance, you know, working on those work ons

808
00:38:35,467 --> 00:38:37,747
Speaker 8: that making sure I keep my strength throughout the season.

809
00:38:38,027 --> 00:38:40,547
Speaker 3: I guess it's easy to forget you're you know, you're

810
00:38:40,547 --> 00:38:43,307
Speaker 3: a pretty decent red bull cricketer as well, or already

811
00:38:43,147 --> 00:38:45,787
Speaker 3: a century in three fifties for Walkland. You average close

812
00:38:45,787 --> 00:38:48,187
Speaker 3: to sixty in first class cricket or we get a

813
00:38:48,187 --> 00:38:50,587
Speaker 3: small sample size, but do you consider yourself an all

814
00:38:50,627 --> 00:38:51,267
Speaker 3: format cricketer.

815
00:38:51,907 --> 00:38:54,907
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's definitely a goal of mine. Like, obviously, I'm

816
00:38:55,507 --> 00:38:59,027
Speaker 8: really grateful and fortunate to have something identified in my

817
00:38:59,107 --> 00:39:01,627
Speaker 8: game with the powerheading and being a finisher which can

818
00:39:01,867 --> 00:39:04,547
Speaker 8: which has obviously got me this call up, which I'm

819
00:39:04,907 --> 00:39:07,307
Speaker 8: incredibly grateful for. But obviously for me as a player

820
00:39:07,387 --> 00:39:09,787
Speaker 8: and in the long run, my goal would be to

821
00:39:09,787 --> 00:39:11,227
Speaker 8: play three formats in New Zealand.

822
00:39:11,227 --> 00:39:12,547
Speaker 4: Like, that's that's the dream of mine.

823
00:39:12,547 --> 00:39:17,027
Speaker 8: And be it some T twenty franchise opportunities such as

824
00:39:17,107 --> 00:39:20,347
Speaker 8: Mumbai has come my way, epic, it's awesome. I can

825
00:39:20,347 --> 00:39:24,347
Speaker 8: take that as it comes and then but yeah, long

826
00:39:24,427 --> 00:39:26,467
Speaker 8: run for me, it's three formats in New Zealand and

827
00:39:26,507 --> 00:39:27,307
Speaker 8: playing test cricket.

828
00:39:27,867 --> 00:39:29,627
Speaker 3: And of course there's a T twenty world company not

829
00:39:29,627 --> 00:39:32,467
Speaker 3: too far away early part of twenty twenty six. Is

830
00:39:32,467 --> 00:39:34,827
Speaker 3: that something that you've got a bit of an eye on.

831
00:39:35,587 --> 00:39:36,507
Speaker 4: It's definitely a goal.

832
00:39:36,707 --> 00:39:39,027
Speaker 8: I mean, everyone wants to play World cut, don't they

833
00:39:39,027 --> 00:39:41,747
Speaker 8: that Again, that will be something pretty special and take

834
00:39:41,747 --> 00:39:43,467
Speaker 8: playing for the Black Cats to a whole new level,

835
00:39:43,507 --> 00:39:46,827
Speaker 8: you know. So it's definitely It's definitely a goal that

836
00:39:46,867 --> 00:39:48,987
Speaker 8: I set for myself, and I guess all I can

837
00:39:49,027 --> 00:39:51,547
Speaker 8: do is control what I can and you know, keep

838
00:39:51,587 --> 00:39:53,987
Speaker 8: working hard and see if if it comes into fruition.

839
00:39:54,187 --> 00:39:56,267
Speaker 3: You were born in South Africa, of course you've just

840
00:39:56,267 --> 00:39:58,387
Speaker 3: about lost the accent. There's just a little lends of

841
00:39:58,427 --> 00:40:01,347
Speaker 3: it still there. How special would it be though, to

842
00:40:01,427 --> 00:40:03,787
Speaker 3: play against the nation of your birth A couple of

843
00:40:03,827 --> 00:40:05,587
Speaker 3: the games in this trice Aeries coming up next Mons

844
00:40:05,627 --> 00:40:07,907
Speaker 3: or against Southa. How special will that be for you?

845
00:40:08,507 --> 00:40:11,307
Speaker 4: Yeah? I think I think that would be pretty cool.

846
00:40:11,307 --> 00:40:13,587
Speaker 8: I mean, obviously I see myself very much as a Kiwie,

847
00:40:13,627 --> 00:40:16,587
Speaker 8: but I've still got family over there and family in

848
00:40:16,587 --> 00:40:17,067
Speaker 8: New Zealand.

849
00:40:17,067 --> 00:40:18,187
Speaker 4: Who's you know.

850
00:40:18,187 --> 00:40:20,027
Speaker 8: I still speak Africa at home, so I guess it

851
00:40:20,027 --> 00:40:22,347
Speaker 8: would be pretty special for them and for me, and

852
00:40:22,827 --> 00:40:25,907
Speaker 8: in some ways obviously play against them in a debut

853
00:40:25,947 --> 00:40:27,107
Speaker 8: that Yeah, I think that would be.

854
00:40:27,147 --> 00:40:28,027
Speaker 4: That would be pretty cool.

855
00:40:28,707 --> 00:40:31,187
Speaker 3: Congratulations on your inclusion, Bevan. Been great to get the

856
00:40:31,227 --> 00:40:33,627
Speaker 3: chance to chat. All the best made and let's hope

857
00:40:33,627 --> 00:40:35,587
Speaker 3: that you get that debut and it's the first of many.

858
00:40:35,627 --> 00:40:36,027
Speaker 4: Mate.

859
00:40:36,307 --> 00:40:38,067
Speaker 8: Thanks Jason, appreciate your time. Have a good one.

860
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Speaker 3: You have a good one too, Bevin. Thanks indeed, Bevin

861
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Speaker 3: Jacobs brand new black hat with us on Weekend Sports

862
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Speaker 3: seven to.

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Speaker 1: One from Breaking down the Hail, Mary's and the Epic Field,

864
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Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Kin, News Talk ZENB.

865
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Speaker 3: Four to one after one Scott robertson Live and studio,

866
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Speaker 3: taking your questions, taking your calls. She can text your

867
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Speaker 3: questions through to nine two nine to two, or try

868
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Speaker 3: your luck on the phones. Get the feeling there'll be

869
00:41:01,587 --> 00:41:03,507
Speaker 3: a bit of interest just in terms of the All Blacks.

870
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Speaker 3: With the All Black season nearly upon us, we're taking

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Speaker 3: Weekend Sport on the road again this year Dunedin next Saturday.

872
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Speaker 3: The show comes to you live from Emerson's Brewery. What

873
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874
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875
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Speaker 3: Sport Live from Emerson's Brewery next Saturday between midday and

876
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877
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Speaker 3: the one o'clock news, the man himself Racer live in studio.

878
00:41:32,987 --> 00:41:37,107
Speaker 1: He's steering the most iconic team and world rugby, the Lats,

879
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880
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881
00:41:45,427 --> 00:41:50,507
Speaker 1: That also is unique leadership, bold selections and cutting shapes

882
00:41:50,547 --> 00:41:59,387
Speaker 1: on the field. All Black's head coach Scott Raza Robertson,

883
00:41:59,747 --> 00:42:02,987
Speaker 1: just talking tactics and test matches, fatiking your calls on

884
00:42:03,307 --> 00:42:06,587
Speaker 1: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. It's weekend Sport with

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00:42:06,747 --> 00:42:09,387
Speaker 1: Jason vine On News Talk Simvy.

886
00:42:09,867 --> 00:42:12,467
Speaker 3: Yes, and then it is coming up past one. A

887
00:42:12,467 --> 00:42:14,627
Speaker 3: great pleasure to welcome into the studio. All Blacks head

888
00:42:14,667 --> 00:42:17,987
Speaker 3: coach Scott Robertson. He's here for an hour to talk

889
00:42:17,987 --> 00:42:20,027
Speaker 3: about a wide range of topics and I'm sure looking

890
00:42:20,067 --> 00:42:22,907
Speaker 3: forward to answering your questions. Oh, eight hundred and eighty

891
00:42:22,987 --> 00:42:25,387
Speaker 3: ten eighty, get you throw on the phone. A rare

892
00:42:25,507 --> 00:42:28,787
Speaker 3: chance for you to speak directly with Razor if you

893
00:42:28,867 --> 00:42:31,987
Speaker 3: prefer to text your question. Nine two nine two. Great

894
00:42:32,027 --> 00:42:32,867
Speaker 3: to see you mate. How are you?

895
00:42:32,987 --> 00:42:34,907
Speaker 7: Yeah, good afternoon, Piney. Thanks for having me in here.

896
00:42:34,947 --> 00:42:39,787
Speaker 7: It's awesome to be interrogated on a Sunday afternoon. It's

897
00:42:39,827 --> 00:42:40,267
Speaker 7: a pleasure.

898
00:42:40,347 --> 00:42:42,907
Speaker 3: Good on you, mate. We do have call stacking up

899
00:42:42,907 --> 00:42:44,547
Speaker 3: and we will get to those, but I'm keen to

900
00:42:45,587 --> 00:42:47,707
Speaker 3: go back a year. It's exactly a year to the

901
00:42:47,787 --> 00:42:50,547
Speaker 3: day that you joined us at nz CIEs ahead of

902
00:42:50,587 --> 00:42:53,947
Speaker 3: your first All Blacks. Well, it's first All Blacks test matches.

903
00:42:54,627 --> 00:42:58,347
Speaker 3: How different do you feel going into year two compared

904
00:42:58,387 --> 00:43:01,187
Speaker 3: to how you felt a year ago as a new

905
00:43:01,227 --> 00:43:02,147
Speaker 3: All Blacks head coach.

906
00:43:03,227 --> 00:43:03,467
Speaker 4: Yeah?

907
00:43:03,547 --> 00:43:06,707
Speaker 7: Look interesting in it to think back here, it's been

908
00:43:06,747 --> 00:43:09,747
Speaker 7: a year. It seems so quick, but also so long ago.

909
00:43:10,307 --> 00:43:12,787
Speaker 7: We're one hundred and twenty days better for it. I

910
00:43:12,867 --> 00:43:17,547
Speaker 7: understand how test weeks work, test matches work, on and

911
00:43:17,587 --> 00:43:22,387
Speaker 7: off the field, the length of the season. All the

912
00:43:22,427 --> 00:43:26,347
Speaker 7: management or the coaching group are better for that. But

913
00:43:26,387 --> 00:43:28,707
Speaker 7: it's always different, it's always changing. You have to be

914
00:43:28,747 --> 00:43:32,067
Speaker 7: really innovative. You have to think on your feet still.

915
00:43:32,147 --> 00:43:34,787
Speaker 7: But the key to these ten days that we're going

916
00:43:34,827 --> 00:43:36,587
Speaker 7: to have together set us up for this French series

917
00:43:36,627 --> 00:43:41,667
Speaker 7: is really critical. So how you start right now is critical.

918
00:43:42,827 --> 00:43:47,107
Speaker 3: Was there anything last year that was a particular lesson

919
00:43:47,187 --> 00:43:49,147
Speaker 3: for you? Something you didn't expect. What was the biggest

920
00:43:49,187 --> 00:43:53,427
Speaker 3: thing or things you learned last year on field or

921
00:43:53,467 --> 00:43:55,227
Speaker 3: on field, anything to do with the All Black setup?

922
00:43:55,667 --> 00:44:00,867
Speaker 7: Yeah? On field, how I knew like every test matches

923
00:44:00,907 --> 00:44:05,667
Speaker 7: like a final. You know the expectations you compete and win,

924
00:44:06,427 --> 00:44:10,587
Speaker 7: and the margins are so close and things can change

925
00:44:10,587 --> 00:44:14,747
Speaker 7: so quickly. You know, a lot of calls that go away,

926
00:44:14,947 --> 00:44:19,827
Speaker 7: the injuries, like the ability to adapt on the field

927
00:44:19,907 --> 00:44:24,507
Speaker 7: to calls, yellow cards. Things are under the microscope way more.

928
00:44:24,787 --> 00:44:30,147
Speaker 7: You know, tmos, little plays, tries, no tries. You know

929
00:44:30,707 --> 00:44:34,787
Speaker 7: there's substitutions. All these little critical things add up because

930
00:44:34,787 --> 00:44:37,307
Speaker 7: the margins are so small that the titus that's ever

931
00:44:37,347 --> 00:44:40,827
Speaker 7: been test footy, the stats show that across the top

932
00:44:40,867 --> 00:44:44,787
Speaker 7: seven teams. And how those decisions and how you set

933
00:44:44,787 --> 00:44:47,667
Speaker 7: your team up through the week to win those and

934
00:44:47,747 --> 00:44:51,907
Speaker 7: critical moments is really critical important, sorry, And so the

935
00:44:51,947 --> 00:44:53,787
Speaker 7: work you do to get your set up so they

936
00:44:53,867 --> 00:44:56,827
Speaker 7: can can own it on the field, off the field,

937
00:44:56,907 --> 00:45:00,547
Speaker 7: just the size of it. Yeah, you're on the road.

938
00:45:00,587 --> 00:45:04,787
Speaker 7: You never paying the same play place twice Sunday, you're up,

939
00:45:04,787 --> 00:45:07,467
Speaker 7: you pack up, you're gone again. There's a four party

940
00:45:08,227 --> 00:45:12,267
Speaker 7: that is setting it up. They leave early. Then you

941
00:45:12,347 --> 00:45:14,147
Speaker 7: come in and you've got another test week. So it's

942
00:45:14,147 --> 00:45:17,467
Speaker 7: a new hotel, new coaching room, new management room, new

943
00:45:17,587 --> 00:45:20,747
Speaker 7: leaders room, new team room, and you just got to

944
00:45:20,747 --> 00:45:22,667
Speaker 7: adapt on what's in front of you. So it's exciting,

945
00:45:22,667 --> 00:45:24,747
Speaker 7: but it's also it's quite relentless.

946
00:45:25,147 --> 00:45:27,867
Speaker 3: Just before we look specifically at what lies immediately in

947
00:45:27,867 --> 00:45:29,147
Speaker 3: front of you. I mean this time next week you

948
00:45:29,147 --> 00:45:31,947
Speaker 3: would have played your first Test against France in Dunedin.

949
00:45:32,427 --> 00:45:35,227
Speaker 3: In the framework of a four year World Cup cycle,

950
00:45:36,187 --> 00:45:38,747
Speaker 3: what are the goals and objectives for year two which

951
00:45:39,187 --> 00:45:41,707
Speaker 3: this is Are there any specific goals for year two

952
00:45:41,747 --> 00:45:43,187
Speaker 3: of a four year World Cup cycle?

953
00:45:43,907 --> 00:45:46,947
Speaker 7: Yeah? Over four years. Probably from a section point of view,

954
00:45:47,147 --> 00:45:50,027
Speaker 7: you're trying to be four deep in all positions. So

955
00:45:50,067 --> 00:45:53,467
Speaker 7: you've got to create enough depth. And I've said it before,

956
00:45:53,547 --> 00:45:55,547
Speaker 7: is it's the white boat theory where you got Stephen

957
00:45:55,587 --> 00:45:57,307
Speaker 7: Donald coming in as the fourth ten, you know, with

958
00:45:57,387 --> 00:46:01,067
Speaker 7: that nice, beautiful type juty to kick her apparently to

959
00:46:01,107 --> 00:46:04,947
Speaker 7: win the Rugby World Cup. And who's your fourth guy

960
00:46:04,987 --> 00:46:08,147
Speaker 7: in each position? Or course, people can cover two positions,

961
00:46:08,227 --> 00:46:11,147
Speaker 7: especially les fords or midfield or outside backs. But when

962
00:46:11,187 --> 00:46:15,667
Speaker 7: you name that thirty three, you've got if free three,

963
00:46:15,667 --> 00:46:18,907
Speaker 7: that's got another versatility enough I believe to pay in

964
00:46:18,907 --> 00:46:21,587
Speaker 7: different positions, but also who's next to come in because

965
00:46:21,627 --> 00:46:23,587
Speaker 7: as you know, rugby is a brutal sport and injuries

966
00:46:23,627 --> 00:46:26,387
Speaker 7: are part of it and things change change quickly.

967
00:46:27,027 --> 00:46:28,947
Speaker 3: Right going to take some calls in a moment. They're

968
00:46:28,947 --> 00:46:31,947
Speaker 3: stacking up a full board already. You're a This is

969
00:46:31,987 --> 00:46:34,987
Speaker 3: the envy of a talkback host. You're getting calls stamped up.

970
00:46:34,987 --> 00:46:36,707
Speaker 3: We'll get them the moment. But I just wanted to

971
00:46:36,747 --> 00:46:39,987
Speaker 3: ask you about your squad and the thirty three that

972
00:46:40,027 --> 00:46:43,907
Speaker 3: you named. If you were independent of one another, all

973
00:46:43,907 --> 00:46:46,307
Speaker 3: of the coaches, yourself, and all of your assistants to

974
00:46:46,307 --> 00:46:49,307
Speaker 3: write down thirty three names independent of one another, and

975
00:46:49,347 --> 00:46:51,067
Speaker 3: then came together. I'm not sure that might be what

976
00:46:51,107 --> 00:46:54,467
Speaker 3: you do. How different do you think everybody's thirty three

977
00:46:54,507 --> 00:46:57,267
Speaker 3: would be? Would you have twenty nine in common? Twenty

978
00:46:57,307 --> 00:46:58,707
Speaker 3: five in common, twenty nine in common?

979
00:46:58,867 --> 00:47:01,427
Speaker 7: I'd tell you you down to two or three four,

980
00:47:02,707 --> 00:47:06,307
Speaker 7: depending depending what's important to you. So what we do.

981
00:47:06,987 --> 00:47:08,787
Speaker 7: We did a lot of work on the guy's character,

982
00:47:09,027 --> 00:47:10,987
Speaker 7: how courageous they are, and what crafts have We used

983
00:47:11,027 --> 00:47:15,147
Speaker 7: three c's as a model, and then everyone sees sometimes

984
00:47:15,267 --> 00:47:17,227
Speaker 7: craft different, you know, like I got a lot of

985
00:47:17,227 --> 00:47:19,747
Speaker 7: footwork like a fend and really good bumps and keep

986
00:47:19,747 --> 00:47:23,827
Speaker 7: their feet alive and anticipate. I watch type forwards a

987
00:47:23,827 --> 00:47:26,427
Speaker 7: lot to make sure that they've got the billy and

988
00:47:26,507 --> 00:47:29,627
Speaker 7: skill set, not just set piece. Jace loves the set piece,

989
00:47:29,667 --> 00:47:32,427
Speaker 7: loves us penalty and he also lights a line out

990
00:47:32,547 --> 00:47:35,267
Speaker 7: and cleans and stuff. But we will see things differently.

991
00:47:36,347 --> 00:47:39,947
Speaker 7: But the non negotiables the character of the player, you know,

992
00:47:40,067 --> 00:47:44,387
Speaker 7: on and off the field, Champion off on TOLF, Worry

993
00:47:44,507 --> 00:47:47,787
Speaker 7: just just will get into it and be really brutal

994
00:47:48,387 --> 00:47:50,587
Speaker 7: and so then you break it down and then some

995
00:47:50,587 --> 00:47:52,707
Speaker 7: people see something in other players. So those are the

996
00:47:52,707 --> 00:47:54,867
Speaker 7: conversations you've got to have, you know, you break it down.

997
00:47:54,907 --> 00:47:57,107
Speaker 7: How's it going to compliment our team? Are they test ready?

998
00:47:57,107 --> 00:48:00,147
Speaker 7: Will they step up straight away? Have they got the craft?

999
00:48:00,587 --> 00:48:02,347
Speaker 7: And how can you do? They need a week with

1000
00:48:02,427 --> 00:48:04,987
Speaker 7: us before or a couple of weeks before us and

1001
00:48:05,027 --> 00:48:08,027
Speaker 7: you bring them in the next series. There's lots of

1002
00:48:08,067 --> 00:48:11,387
Speaker 7: little things you go over, but majority of the players

1003
00:48:11,387 --> 00:48:13,827
Speaker 7: pick themselves through their own performance. Yeah, wonderful.

1004
00:48:14,147 --> 00:48:17,867
Speaker 3: It's thirteen past one. Scott Raiser Robertson is in studio.

1005
00:48:18,107 --> 00:48:21,307
Speaker 3: We've invited calls. I'll get Marked to put these calls

1006
00:48:21,307 --> 00:48:24,347
Speaker 3: to airs as we need to do so, So Mark

1007
00:48:24,867 --> 00:48:27,187
Speaker 3: first first up, as Mark, can you hear us there?

1008
00:48:27,227 --> 00:48:27,387
Speaker 16: Mark?

1009
00:48:29,427 --> 00:48:32,667
Speaker 3: I'm just going to try and get Mark on the era.

1010
00:48:32,667 --> 00:48:34,347
Speaker 3: I might get you to do that for me, Mark Kelly.

1011
00:48:34,907 --> 00:48:38,147
Speaker 3: Just while we're organizing that, a couple on text. There's

1012
00:48:38,187 --> 00:48:42,547
Speaker 3: a great one that came through here with Damien McKenzie

1013
00:48:42,587 --> 00:48:45,867
Speaker 3: and Boden Barrett both available and playing very slightly but

1014
00:48:46,027 --> 00:48:49,267
Speaker 3: different styles. What specifically are you looking for in your

1015
00:48:49,307 --> 00:48:53,667
Speaker 3: starting ten? Is it about form, experience, symmetry with other

1016
00:48:53,707 --> 00:48:56,387
Speaker 3: players or the game plan you want the all Blacks

1017
00:48:56,387 --> 00:49:01,187
Speaker 3: to play? So wow, the Texas that's the text. Yeah,

1018
00:49:01,267 --> 00:49:03,507
Speaker 3: so those you're ten and why detailed?

1019
00:49:04,347 --> 00:49:06,747
Speaker 7: Probably all of them in your own you know, and

1020
00:49:06,827 --> 00:49:09,147
Speaker 7: what's in front of you. Obviously, we gave d Mech

1021
00:49:09,187 --> 00:49:11,587
Speaker 7: a really good crack last year. We wanted to give

1022
00:49:11,667 --> 00:49:14,427
Speaker 7: him as much opportunities to learn his craft. And we

1023
00:49:14,507 --> 00:49:17,067
Speaker 7: know he's courageous, don't we, you know, and we know

1024
00:49:18,067 --> 00:49:20,587
Speaker 7: the only way you really learn about yourself was at

1025
00:49:20,587 --> 00:49:22,707
Speaker 7: that moment under the heat, and we did some a

1026
00:49:22,747 --> 00:49:26,027
Speaker 7: great job. And the same with Bowden Techic Clearware still

1027
00:49:26,067 --> 00:49:30,907
Speaker 7: at thirty three plum good footy physically and great next.

1028
00:49:30,907 --> 00:49:32,507
Speaker 7: So we've got the balance of the two is perfect.

1029
00:49:32,547 --> 00:49:36,867
Speaker 7: They both run the game slightly differently, both can come

1030
00:49:36,907 --> 00:49:38,667
Speaker 7: off the bench, and both can play ten and fallback.

1031
00:49:38,707 --> 00:49:41,027
Speaker 7: So they compliment each other really well. Good stuff.

1032
00:49:41,027 --> 00:49:42,907
Speaker 3: All right, I think we can get these calls on

1033
00:49:43,067 --> 00:49:46,627
Speaker 3: now Mark, Have we got Mark on the air there? Okay,

1034
00:49:46,667 --> 00:49:49,867
Speaker 3: we're just still having a couple. Okay, I'm clicking them,

1035
00:49:49,867 --> 00:49:51,347
Speaker 3: I am clicking him, and he's not coming to air.

1036
00:49:51,467 --> 00:49:54,187
Speaker 3: So that's that's an odd one. We'll go back to

1037
00:49:54,227 --> 00:49:56,747
Speaker 3: some questions that I have here. We are going to

1038
00:49:56,747 --> 00:49:58,467
Speaker 3: get to the phones. We promised that you could call it.

1039
00:49:58,987 --> 00:50:01,427
Speaker 3: You talked about players making the step up. How do

1040
00:50:01,507 --> 00:50:04,147
Speaker 3: you know how do you know that? Actually we can't

1041
00:50:04,147 --> 00:50:06,187
Speaker 3: go back to Mark. Well, Mark, we'll put Mark to

1042
00:50:06,187 --> 00:50:07,787
Speaker 3: we shortly. How do you know a guy I can

1043
00:50:07,827 --> 00:50:11,867
Speaker 3: make a step on and off the field.

1044
00:50:11,867 --> 00:50:15,067
Speaker 7: That's this part of your your gut feeling. And you

1045
00:50:15,147 --> 00:50:19,027
Speaker 7: see them through super seasons, super season and even the

1046
00:50:19,067 --> 00:50:21,707
Speaker 7: coming into finals. You know, some people just step up

1047
00:50:21,747 --> 00:50:24,907
Speaker 7: to the occasion, the bigger the game, the bigger involvements.

1048
00:50:25,307 --> 00:50:28,827
Speaker 7: You know, test Ford is a game of collisions and

1049
00:50:28,827 --> 00:50:30,787
Speaker 7: and so's a lot of finals footy. You know, pressure

1050
00:50:30,787 --> 00:50:34,187
Speaker 7: to pressure moments, high ball, kick long, you know who's

1051
00:50:34,227 --> 00:50:38,587
Speaker 7: going to break first, and they step up. And I've

1052
00:50:38,587 --> 00:50:40,787
Speaker 7: got to talk about Wallace because that's what he did

1053
00:50:40,867 --> 00:50:43,507
Speaker 7: you know, like you obviously with the Chiefs Hurricanes game

1054
00:50:44,667 --> 00:50:47,227
Speaker 7: at the Caketon last year, like he was phenomenal and

1055
00:50:47,467 --> 00:50:49,227
Speaker 7: we've been watching him, we've seen him and he was

1056
00:50:49,227 --> 00:50:51,667
Speaker 7: a young man when you physically was in good condition.

1057
00:50:51,787 --> 00:50:55,547
Speaker 7: But wow, that was the moment you run. You keept

1058
00:50:55,547 --> 00:50:57,387
Speaker 7: packing it up and you stepped up in that moment.

1059
00:50:57,627 --> 00:50:59,707
Speaker 3: All right, third time lucky, I'm sure we can get

1060
00:50:59,747 --> 00:51:02,147
Speaker 3: Mark this time. Mark. What's your question for Raiser?

1061
00:51:03,307 --> 00:51:06,067
Speaker 13: I'll c to make it short.

1062
00:51:06,827 --> 00:51:08,947
Speaker 17: How are you going to Scott Have you thought have

1063
00:51:09,027 --> 00:51:11,907
Speaker 17: you planned to hear about the next World capital with

1064
00:51:12,067 --> 00:51:12,587
Speaker 17: the French?

1065
00:51:12,827 --> 00:51:13,987
Speaker 13: How are you going to counter them?

1066
00:51:14,587 --> 00:51:16,107
Speaker 8: It's a big question, but you know.

1067
00:51:16,627 --> 00:51:20,107
Speaker 7: Yeah, we always World Cups as a natural cycle, especially

1068
00:51:20,187 --> 00:51:22,907
Speaker 7: for contracting as well and for players they look at

1069
00:51:23,187 --> 00:51:24,787
Speaker 7: World Cups are interest enough. We've got a couple of

1070
00:51:24,827 --> 00:51:28,267
Speaker 7: years after the Lions tour, which is unique for the

1071
00:51:28,267 --> 00:51:30,187
Speaker 7: people's career, especially to play a couple of them. But

1072
00:51:30,787 --> 00:51:35,627
Speaker 7: you work back, like I said before about getting full deep,

1073
00:51:36,147 --> 00:51:38,707
Speaker 7: you know, and exchanges really quickly. The laws making our

1074
00:51:38,707 --> 00:51:42,467
Speaker 7: games fast faster with the line outs, with the scrum,

1075
00:51:42,587 --> 00:51:45,747
Speaker 7: the ball and place higher. So you're going to be

1076
00:51:45,827 --> 00:51:47,907
Speaker 7: highly skilled and really fit, So you look at guys

1077
00:51:48,067 --> 00:51:51,107
Speaker 7: and big men that have got all those So you're

1078
00:51:51,107 --> 00:51:54,267
Speaker 7: talking about your depth and then who's got the ability

1079
00:51:54,347 --> 00:51:59,387
Speaker 7: to be resilient for a long period periods of time

1080
00:51:59,547 --> 00:52:01,507
Speaker 7: and play a couple of positions. So we're looking at

1081
00:52:01,547 --> 00:52:03,787
Speaker 7: from that point of view, but also looking at the

1082
00:52:03,867 --> 00:52:06,307
Speaker 7: laws and the laws of the game. And it's trending

1083
00:52:06,427 --> 00:52:08,787
Speaker 7: great for us because we've got a highest school team

1084
00:52:08,827 --> 00:52:10,987
Speaker 7: and part of this year is to build that the

1085
00:52:11,027 --> 00:52:14,187
Speaker 7: depth and give guys. Look, we have an opportunity in

1086
00:52:14,187 --> 00:52:15,187
Speaker 7: this series with the French.

1087
00:52:15,427 --> 00:52:17,507
Speaker 3: Thanks very much for kicking us off, Mark gar let's

1088
00:52:17,547 --> 00:52:20,587
Speaker 3: go to Stuart. You've got a question for Razor Stuart.

1089
00:52:21,507 --> 00:52:25,667
Speaker 18: Yes, thanks for the opportunity, gentlemen, coach. I know it's

1090
00:52:25,707 --> 00:52:27,987
Speaker 18: not good to jump too far ahead. With the French

1091
00:52:28,307 --> 00:52:31,867
Speaker 18: arriving on a couple of YouTube channels. I keep an

1092
00:52:31,907 --> 00:52:36,987
Speaker 18: eye on the spring Bok, the spring Box and they

1093
00:52:36,987 --> 00:52:42,587
Speaker 18: look pretty fearsome and organized. Are we ready for this

1094
00:52:42,667 --> 00:52:44,947
Speaker 18: rugby storm coming from South Africa?

1095
00:52:46,067 --> 00:52:47,907
Speaker 7: I look ruddy in the last six years coming to

1096
00:52:47,907 --> 00:52:52,507
Speaker 7: a seventh year. You know, he's built a pretty pretty

1097
00:52:52,507 --> 00:52:56,427
Speaker 7: incredible depth and a squad really clear identity and they

1098
00:52:56,467 --> 00:52:58,547
Speaker 7: know how they're going to play, they're coming through the

1099
00:52:58,547 --> 00:53:04,107
Speaker 7: front door. It's quite it's quite clear on what they do,

1100
00:53:04,267 --> 00:53:07,547
Speaker 7: you know in your ability. You know, obviouslyat Year it

1101
00:53:07,667 --> 00:53:09,787
Speaker 7: came down to a one score game at the end

1102
00:53:09,827 --> 00:53:12,627
Speaker 7: of it with even By you know, there's ten points

1103
00:53:12,627 --> 00:53:14,027
Speaker 7: and we wanted to move them around the field and

1104
00:53:14,067 --> 00:53:16,347
Speaker 7: hole ball for long periods of time and just a

1105
00:53:16,387 --> 00:53:19,387
Speaker 7: couple ofttle moments as I mentioned before, which changes test match.

1106
00:53:19,427 --> 00:53:22,827
Speaker 7: We didn't quite go our way. Discipline's really really important

1107
00:53:22,827 --> 00:53:27,467
Speaker 7: around it. So look, you've got to give full respect them.

1108
00:53:27,467 --> 00:53:29,747
Speaker 7: They know they're haging to play, and we know how

1109
00:53:29,787 --> 00:53:31,867
Speaker 7: we're going to play, and we've we're just going to

1110
00:53:31,907 --> 00:53:34,347
Speaker 7: do it for that eighteen minute period and make sure

1111
00:53:34,347 --> 00:53:36,987
Speaker 7: we have a twenty three that carry out their game plan.

1112
00:53:37,067 --> 00:53:39,787
Speaker 7: But yeah, we've got the skills in the players to

1113
00:53:41,427 --> 00:53:42,787
Speaker 7: ready for fifth September.

1114
00:53:43,067 --> 00:53:45,627
Speaker 3: Thank you very call Stuart a lot on text asking

1115
00:53:45,667 --> 00:53:49,027
Speaker 3: about selection and Ethan Black at it with a lot

1116
00:53:49,067 --> 00:53:52,667
Speaker 3: of Cantabrians listening to the show. Are not selected in

1117
00:53:52,707 --> 00:53:56,227
Speaker 3: your thirty three? And then when Wallace was unfortunately injured

1118
00:53:56,267 --> 00:53:59,027
Speaker 3: and couldn't take part in the French series, you brought

1119
00:53:59,067 --> 00:54:02,587
Speaker 3: Dalton Papaletti and why Dalton and not Ethan.

1120
00:54:02,907 --> 00:54:06,107
Speaker 7: Both the juenuine options both her experience as well. Ethan

1121
00:54:06,187 --> 00:54:10,027
Speaker 7: was available medically, had that conversation with him, and so

1122
00:54:10,107 --> 00:54:12,427
Speaker 7: it was Dalton's opportunity to come in. But look we

1123
00:54:12,507 --> 00:54:15,707
Speaker 7: know Ethan and how much output he puts into the game,

1124
00:54:15,827 --> 00:54:19,547
Speaker 7: and look he's in. He takes the character box. He's

1125
00:54:19,587 --> 00:54:21,667
Speaker 7: no thought about that. He's a hell of a man.

1126
00:54:21,747 --> 00:54:22,747
Speaker 7: So here's some tough calls.

1127
00:54:22,787 --> 00:54:25,067
Speaker 3: He all right, Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

1128
00:54:25,107 --> 00:54:27,467
Speaker 3: is our number one twenty. Will take a break. There

1129
00:54:27,507 --> 00:54:29,347
Speaker 3: is a speare line there which won't last very long.

1130
00:54:29,387 --> 00:54:31,867
Speaker 3: I can tell you your questions for Scott Raiser Robertson

1131
00:54:31,947 --> 00:54:34,187
Speaker 3: until too. Here at News Talks THEREB we're back after this.

1132
00:54:35,867 --> 00:54:40,187
Speaker 1: Good Boldlag's head coach Scott Robertson taking your calls on No.

1133
00:54:40,267 --> 00:54:43,147
Speaker 1: Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Weekend Sport with Jason

1134
00:54:43,227 --> 00:54:47,267
Speaker 1: Vine and GJ. Gun Nomes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder,

1135
00:54:47,387 --> 00:54:48,227
Speaker 1: News talks'd B.

1136
00:54:48,467 --> 00:54:50,147
Speaker 3: One twenty three. Just before we go back to the lines,

1137
00:54:50,227 --> 00:54:53,427
Speaker 3: very quick selection question. How close was chiefs Lucy Simon

1138
00:54:53,507 --> 00:54:55,667
Speaker 3: Parker to selection prior to getting injured?

1139
00:54:56,147 --> 00:54:59,107
Speaker 7: He here's a lot of interest in them. Looky, he's

1140
00:54:59,107 --> 00:55:01,027
Speaker 7: a big body, six foot five and one hundred and

1141
00:55:01,027 --> 00:55:04,227
Speaker 7: twenty kilos. It's it's hard not to watch them. He

1142
00:55:05,067 --> 00:55:07,747
Speaker 7: was in good form and we're just because he's isn't

1143
00:55:07,787 --> 00:55:10,427
Speaker 7: it his chance to get his body continual matches? And

1144
00:55:10,507 --> 00:55:12,947
Speaker 7: he did through the season, so he's on the watch

1145
00:55:12,987 --> 00:55:13,987
Speaker 7: list for sure. Good to hear.

1146
00:55:14,027 --> 00:55:15,947
Speaker 3: All right, let's go back to the lines, Dane, your

1147
00:55:16,027 --> 00:55:16,747
Speaker 3: question for Riser?

1148
00:55:18,667 --> 00:55:22,747
Speaker 19: Hello this scot congratulations first of all and all of

1149
00:55:22,747 --> 00:55:25,307
Speaker 19: the seas of the season. I hope the legacy you're

1150
00:55:25,347 --> 00:55:29,827
Speaker 19: left with Canterbury carries on. They started for a season,

1151
00:55:29,827 --> 00:55:32,907
Speaker 19: but now they're right back, so that's wonderful. But what

1152
00:55:32,987 --> 00:55:35,987
Speaker 19: I wanted to ask you the high kick that you

1153
00:55:36,067 --> 00:55:38,747
Speaker 19: see done repeatedly, where the last man in the mall

1154
00:55:38,787 --> 00:55:41,787
Speaker 19: puts his legs stretch right back, the balls stuck under

1155
00:55:41,787 --> 00:55:44,627
Speaker 19: and no one can come around, and it's advertised for

1156
00:55:45,427 --> 00:55:47,507
Speaker 19: like you could make a cup of tea before they

1157
00:55:47,587 --> 00:55:51,827
Speaker 19: kick it. Why don't people why don't players get back

1158
00:55:52,227 --> 00:55:55,987
Speaker 19: behind the ball to stop the other teams coming forward

1159
00:55:56,027 --> 00:55:59,307
Speaker 19: and gain the momentum If the player misses the ball,

1160
00:55:59,467 --> 00:56:01,827
Speaker 19: even when he catches it, he gets hit by a

1161
00:56:01,867 --> 00:56:05,227
Speaker 19: mountain of players and quite often the ball gets turned over.

1162
00:56:05,627 --> 00:56:09,347
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's one of the beautiful parts of our job.

1163
00:56:09,667 --> 00:56:11,747
Speaker 7: You just call it a litle bit of art, Dean. It's

1164
00:56:11,827 --> 00:56:14,307
Speaker 7: art for the half back in those legs. It's quite

1165
00:56:14,347 --> 00:56:16,507
Speaker 7: a little Bellerina like, isn't it how they came through.

1166
00:56:16,587 --> 00:56:20,627
Speaker 7: But one thing is contestable kicking at the skill set

1167
00:56:20,667 --> 00:56:24,107
Speaker 7: of half backs being able to kick the exact length

1168
00:56:24,267 --> 00:56:26,667
Speaker 7: it's likely twenty seven meters depending on how high they

1169
00:56:26,667 --> 00:56:28,667
Speaker 7: can cut, Like Royga can float it like a helium

1170
00:56:28,707 --> 00:56:31,107
Speaker 7: ballow and gun. He just floats up there and then

1171
00:56:31,507 --> 00:56:35,107
Speaker 7: with no escorting. Now you can start getting tap backs.

1172
00:56:35,147 --> 00:56:37,787
Speaker 7: It's a little bit more afl like, but that's a

1173
00:56:37,827 --> 00:56:39,787
Speaker 7: really it's an important part of the game because you

1174
00:56:39,827 --> 00:56:42,547
Speaker 7: can put pictures straight back on the half other other

1175
00:56:42,627 --> 00:56:45,427
Speaker 7: team rather than just kicking long and then the balls

1176
00:56:45,467 --> 00:56:46,947
Speaker 7: in their hands and they can either run it back

1177
00:56:47,027 --> 00:56:49,347
Speaker 7: or quick long back in your twenty two. So that

1178
00:56:49,627 --> 00:56:51,947
Speaker 7: little structure we put a lot of work into. We

1179
00:56:52,027 --> 00:56:54,547
Speaker 7: didn't quite get a couple right last year and it

1180
00:56:54,707 --> 00:56:56,827
Speaker 7: cost us. So you could have fallen in love with

1181
00:56:56,867 --> 00:56:58,987
Speaker 7: that part of the game there, Dean.

1182
00:56:59,547 --> 00:57:02,467
Speaker 3: Yeah, good on your Dane, Thanks for your call. Really appreciated.

1183
00:57:03,427 --> 00:57:05,507
Speaker 3: A pain of Hamer A question for Razor.

1184
00:57:06,907 --> 00:57:09,867
Speaker 20: Yeah, Scott, thanks for taking the time. A couple of

1185
00:57:10,267 --> 00:57:14,387
Speaker 20: things I'm interested in. So I love seeing Dukes and

1186
00:57:15,507 --> 00:57:19,067
Speaker 20: Jimmy tabataanaway in there. And I know it's only part

1187
00:57:19,147 --> 00:57:24,307
Speaker 20: of the jigsaw puzzle, but their ability, you know, test

1188
00:57:24,427 --> 00:57:27,147
Speaker 20: level turnovers are at a premium, their ability on the

1189
00:57:27,227 --> 00:57:30,667
Speaker 20: defensive turnover. I'm just interested in how big a fact

1190
00:57:30,747 --> 00:57:34,507
Speaker 20: that that wasn't picking those guys. They've had good seasons.

1191
00:57:34,547 --> 00:57:38,707
Speaker 20: And number two, you see the Africans, they play how

1192
00:57:38,747 --> 00:57:40,547
Speaker 20: they play, even though they've got all these guns like

1193
00:57:42,707 --> 00:57:47,307
Speaker 20: Cheslin and whatnot and Orenzo. But those little guys are

1194
00:57:47,387 --> 00:57:51,747
Speaker 20: so good at recovering their kits that even this morning.

1195
00:57:51,827 --> 00:57:54,907
Speaker 20: You know they're little, but they and I feel like

1196
00:57:55,227 --> 00:57:56,747
Speaker 20: you diffuse their kick Chase.

1197
00:57:56,947 --> 00:57:58,747
Speaker 21: You're going a long way to diffuse in the box.

1198
00:57:59,987 --> 00:58:01,547
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, we've got quite a big We've got quite a.

1199
00:58:01,507 --> 00:58:04,387
Speaker 20: Big test thumb and in partner ya, no pressure makes

1200
00:58:04,427 --> 00:58:05,187
Speaker 20: to take the time again.

1201
00:58:05,627 --> 00:58:07,467
Speaker 7: You showed that Christ and really well thanks for finishing

1202
00:58:07,547 --> 00:58:11,547
Speaker 7: with that. But it's you're right. I think I see

1203
00:58:12,907 --> 00:58:16,067
Speaker 7: talking about him specifically. Look, he can stop the game

1204
00:58:16,147 --> 00:58:18,867
Speaker 7: and it's head counting with his time he turnovers. But

1205
00:58:18,987 --> 00:58:21,627
Speaker 7: his discipline and his self control was huge this year,

1206
00:58:22,467 --> 00:58:26,907
Speaker 7: like one of the least penalized players and his technic technically,

1207
00:58:27,987 --> 00:58:30,107
Speaker 7: I showed the pictures of the reef wanted to see,

1208
00:58:30,787 --> 00:58:32,987
Speaker 7: so he got a lot of return off it. And

1209
00:58:33,067 --> 00:58:38,387
Speaker 7: same with Timothy. You know, like he's he's pretty incredible

1210
00:58:38,387 --> 00:58:40,827
Speaker 7: both sides of the ball. His power, he came out

1211
00:58:40,827 --> 00:58:42,347
Speaker 7: of the gate and super the great thing from he

1212
00:58:42,467 --> 00:58:45,187
Speaker 7: just kept going, just kept going around the corner, in

1213
00:58:45,267 --> 00:58:47,587
Speaker 7: the corner and keep going, and you know he was gaged.

1214
00:58:47,627 --> 00:58:51,987
Speaker 7: He was so big for that his team and what

1215
00:58:52,147 --> 00:58:56,707
Speaker 7: was the last part of the question, kicking. It's quite interesting.

1216
00:58:57,547 --> 00:59:01,427
Speaker 7: I pretty hummer around that. You know, sevens players come

1217
00:59:01,827 --> 00:59:04,067
Speaker 7: back into our game, like you know, got Bill Buddy

1218
00:59:04,147 --> 00:59:06,947
Speaker 7: that the French winger are in. There's Chieslin Colby, like

1219
00:59:07,267 --> 00:59:10,667
Speaker 7: Lee Roy, Carter Dous seven spars that have come back

1220
00:59:10,747 --> 00:59:17,467
Speaker 7: into into rugby fifteen's that they're tough, they're great round

1221
00:59:17,507 --> 00:59:21,187
Speaker 7: the breakdown, the good kick Chase Stuffy. They're used to

1222
00:59:21,387 --> 00:59:23,947
Speaker 7: tackling six foot six feet jeans above the knee, you know,

1223
00:59:24,067 --> 00:59:27,307
Speaker 7: one on one. So you know the ability to transition

1224
00:59:27,427 --> 00:59:29,747
Speaker 7: into test folly. But more importantly, they've got speed, which

1225
00:59:29,827 --> 00:59:33,507
Speaker 7: gives them creates more opportunities than a lot of others,

1226
00:59:33,547 --> 00:59:38,387
Speaker 7: you know, like Leroy Carter's fastest the New Zealand from statistically,

1227
00:59:38,507 --> 00:59:41,227
Speaker 7: you know, he's it's pretty incredible the opportunities that come

1228
00:59:41,387 --> 00:59:43,907
Speaker 7: just for a speed and those boys in the spring

1229
00:59:43,947 --> 00:59:46,067
Speaker 7: box are transitioned back credibly.

1230
00:59:46,147 --> 00:59:47,627
Speaker 3: Well was he close, Leroy Carter?

1231
00:59:48,427 --> 00:59:49,307
Speaker 7: He was in the picture too.

1232
00:59:49,867 --> 00:59:52,507
Speaker 3: Yeah, a pot of armor. Thank you for your call.

1233
00:59:52,587 --> 00:59:55,267
Speaker 3: Let's get back to the lines. Mark your question for Razor.

1234
00:59:57,147 --> 01:00:00,387
Speaker 9: Yeah, hey, Finny raiser, Richard mcwaania, do you see him

1235
01:00:00,427 --> 01:00:02,427
Speaker 9: starting at number ten at the next World come?

1236
01:00:04,587 --> 01:00:04,707
Speaker 12: Uh?

1237
01:00:05,627 --> 01:00:08,627
Speaker 7: Like, I see rich It's a valuable part of New

1238
01:00:08,707 --> 01:00:12,667
Speaker 7: Zerobian and when he when he's back, look we can

1239
01:00:12,867 --> 01:00:14,387
Speaker 7: we know what he can do. And we've got a

1240
01:00:14,467 --> 01:00:17,267
Speaker 7: couple of great tens at the moment as well, experienced

1241
01:00:17,347 --> 01:00:19,787
Speaker 7: and Witherty experience as well, so that that's good, and

1242
01:00:19,827 --> 01:00:22,387
Speaker 7: we've obviously got to get the next group coming through

1243
01:00:22,427 --> 01:00:25,347
Speaker 7: as well, just the intry picked we'ben love. You know,

1244
01:00:25,387 --> 01:00:27,587
Speaker 7: he's got a beautiful balance between ten and fifteen, and

1245
01:00:28,387 --> 01:00:30,187
Speaker 7: when the hurricanes put him in there. We're you know,

1246
01:00:30,547 --> 01:00:32,507
Speaker 7: we're watching like everyone else. And he just stood up

1247
01:00:32,507 --> 01:00:35,227
Speaker 7: to it and he's matured nicely. So we've got four

1248
01:00:35,547 --> 01:00:38,347
Speaker 7: good teams at the moment. So that and we're looking

1249
01:00:38,387 --> 01:00:40,827
Speaker 7: at the fifth and six as you always do.

1250
01:00:41,827 --> 01:00:45,347
Speaker 3: Thanks for your question, Mark, Let's keep going. I's almost

1251
01:00:45,427 --> 01:00:47,907
Speaker 3: hung up on you there, Phil, Phil your question for Raiser.

1252
01:00:48,787 --> 01:00:49,547
Speaker 19: Oh, don't do that.

1253
01:00:51,547 --> 01:00:52,547
Speaker 21: Yeah, good guys.

1254
01:00:52,627 --> 01:00:53,027
Speaker 2: Who we are?

1255
01:00:55,347 --> 01:00:57,547
Speaker 7: Oh, go ahead, now we're good Phil.

1256
01:00:57,667 --> 01:01:01,507
Speaker 22: Thanks you, it's on you excellent the oh just ask

1257
01:01:01,587 --> 01:01:03,987
Speaker 22: my question, Raiser. I met I've met your appearance a

1258
01:01:04,107 --> 01:01:07,027
Speaker 22: number of years ago. Years ago, I brought a golf

1259
01:01:07,027 --> 01:01:08,067
Speaker 22: club off your old man.

1260
01:01:08,547 --> 01:01:10,587
Speaker 7: There going to be very cover of the fire service.

1261
01:01:10,747 --> 01:01:11,507
Speaker 4: It was one of the two.

1262
01:01:12,907 --> 01:01:17,707
Speaker 7: Yeah, I love this golf mate. He's passionate about it.

1263
01:01:17,707 --> 01:01:19,307
Speaker 7: If the masters are on you, you don't see him

1264
01:01:19,307 --> 01:01:19,787
Speaker 7: for four days.

1265
01:01:20,227 --> 01:01:20,427
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1266
01:01:20,707 --> 01:01:21,987
Speaker 2: Oh, well I can relate to that.

1267
01:01:22,107 --> 01:01:22,747
Speaker 4: I'm a golfer.

1268
01:01:22,747 --> 01:01:24,467
Speaker 23: And he threw in a few gold bulls as well.

1269
01:01:24,507 --> 01:01:25,907
Speaker 22: He said, here, I have a half a dozen of

1270
01:01:25,947 --> 01:01:27,387
Speaker 22: these as well. And he was very proud of you.

1271
01:01:27,507 --> 01:01:28,507
Speaker 22: He said, I look at this photo.

1272
01:01:28,547 --> 01:01:29,227
Speaker 2: Do you know this guy?

1273
01:01:29,307 --> 01:01:29,907
Speaker 8: He's my boy?

1274
01:01:32,667 --> 01:01:35,547
Speaker 22: My question is that I don't know if it's appropriate question,

1275
01:01:35,627 --> 01:01:39,107
Speaker 22: because it's just a curiosity question for me, and I've

1276
01:01:39,147 --> 01:01:42,427
Speaker 22: talked to Pointy about it. I'm just wondering why a

1277
01:01:42,587 --> 01:01:46,707
Speaker 22: guy like what holds or stops or stopping a guy

1278
01:01:46,987 --> 01:01:51,067
Speaker 22: like Tom Christie from getting becoming an All Black because

1279
01:01:51,107 --> 01:01:53,467
Speaker 22: I think he's a fantastic player, and I think he's

1280
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Speaker 22: good enough, but you would know better than me. But

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Speaker 22: he performs week in and week out to such a

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01:01:59,107 --> 01:02:01,387
Speaker 22: high standard for the Crusaders, and I just wondered, what,

1283
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Speaker 22: what what holds him back?

1284
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Speaker 2: What is it?

1285
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Speaker 22: Is it just that he's in a big bull by

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Speaker 22: against other players.

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Speaker 7: I think you've sort of answered it yourself. For one

1288
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Speaker 7: thing is he's tough and consistent. You know, I've known

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Speaker 7: him since he came out of school, Tom, so you know,

1290
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Speaker 7: work with him closely, and he just keeps turning up

1291
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Speaker 7: each week. He's he's cleaned a lot of his game

1292
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Speaker 7: up and his skill set and stuff. And you know

1293
01:02:27,747 --> 01:02:31,947
Speaker 7: that's guys like him are just so important for super rugby,

1294
01:02:32,227 --> 01:02:34,427
Speaker 7: you know, in New Zone rugby, and he goes back

1295
01:02:34,467 --> 01:02:39,187
Speaker 7: in such incredible leader for his province and he makes

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Speaker 7: you know, Super Ruby what it is this year. We

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Speaker 7: know how great the viewers of the balls Mutch rugby

1298
01:02:44,627 --> 01:02:46,147
Speaker 7: like this for so long and it just gives you

1299
01:02:46,267 --> 01:02:51,547
Speaker 7: how much enjoyment you know that games and good Nick

1300
01:02:51,587 --> 01:02:52,427
Speaker 7: and he's one of the reasons.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for your call, Phil, appreciate it very much. Do

1302
01:02:56,067 --> 01:02:58,307
Speaker 3: you have a more defined sense of your game plan

1303
01:02:58,427 --> 01:03:01,187
Speaker 3: this year as a given the ball carriers, the impact

1304
01:03:01,227 --> 01:03:02,387
Speaker 3: players that you've selected.

1305
01:03:03,347 --> 01:03:08,587
Speaker 7: Yeah, we did last year through I think a lot

1306
01:03:08,627 --> 01:03:11,027
Speaker 7: of our games have stopped looking because just the discipline

1307
01:03:11,067 --> 01:03:12,747
Speaker 7: and we didn't quite as you know, it's pro well

1308
01:03:12,827 --> 01:03:15,227
Speaker 7: documented that second half stuff we'd get well, we lead

1309
01:03:15,307 --> 01:03:17,667
Speaker 7: every team at halftime, so there was some you know,

1310
01:03:17,947 --> 01:03:19,747
Speaker 7: you can get caught on things. And my job is

1311
01:03:19,827 --> 01:03:21,827
Speaker 7: to keep the course. And you know we want to

1312
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Speaker 7: play fast because we've got the skill set to do that.

1313
01:03:24,667 --> 01:03:28,827
Speaker 7: We've got the game where it's trending with the stoppages

1314
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Speaker 7: and play and quick ball and quick line out, et cetera,

1315
01:03:31,427 --> 01:03:34,347
Speaker 7: and the athletes to do it so ball and play

1316
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Speaker 7: lots of short passes and in doing it fast and

1317
01:03:39,547 --> 01:03:41,867
Speaker 7: you know where as we mentioned a year better for it.

1318
01:03:42,307 --> 01:03:45,027
Speaker 3: And Jordie's back and how do you think he is

1319
01:03:45,147 --> 01:03:48,707
Speaker 3: looking and the experience of playing at Leinster, what do

1320
01:03:48,747 --> 01:03:50,627
Speaker 3: you what can we expect to see from Jordan and

1321
01:03:50,667 --> 01:03:52,307
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five in a black jersey.

1322
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Speaker 7: Well, he's got a nice little tan on at the

1323
01:03:53,947 --> 01:03:56,627
Speaker 7: moment the Hemisphere ten. He's come back with a glow

1324
01:03:56,707 --> 01:04:00,907
Speaker 7: up from Myrland and he's but he's good, like he's

1325
01:04:00,947 --> 01:04:03,547
Speaker 7: a coach, you know, he's a player coach, you know,

1326
01:04:03,707 --> 01:04:06,667
Speaker 7: like he just knows the game so well and you

1327
01:04:06,707 --> 01:04:09,787
Speaker 7: see that game. I watch this game and it's like

1328
01:04:10,267 --> 01:04:12,947
Speaker 7: golf for him. He's a real fan. He's a fan

1329
01:04:13,027 --> 01:04:14,627
Speaker 7: of rugby's a fan of golf. He knows any think

1330
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Speaker 7: about everyone else is talking about a fl like he

1331
01:04:16,547 --> 01:04:18,827
Speaker 7: knew every team and every player else. So he's a

1332
01:04:18,867 --> 01:04:20,587
Speaker 7: deep thinker. But when you get him on the field

1333
01:04:20,667 --> 01:04:22,667
Speaker 7: or you know, what he shares to you and what

1334
01:04:22,827 --> 01:04:26,227
Speaker 7: what bit of gold? How he just discusses and talks.

1335
01:04:27,147 --> 01:04:29,667
Speaker 7: He's another part of your coaching group. And we know

1336
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Speaker 7: how valuable was it for him mentally. And he's in

1337
01:04:32,347 --> 01:04:33,627
Speaker 7: great physical neck coming back.

1338
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Speaker 3: From good to hear, let's get back to the lines

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01:04:36,307 --> 01:04:39,227
Speaker 3: and get some more questions coming your way. Mark, you're right,

1340
01:04:39,267 --> 01:04:40,267
Speaker 3: what's your question for Raiser?

1341
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Speaker 17: How are you?

1342
01:04:42,987 --> 01:04:43,267
Speaker 4: I am?

1343
01:04:44,747 --> 01:04:47,867
Speaker 17: I really enjoyed the team the other day. Good squad,

1344
01:04:47,987 --> 01:04:51,387
Speaker 17: you've got I've got one thing. I didn't see my

1345
01:04:51,467 --> 01:04:53,027
Speaker 17: name in it for the water boys, you know, I

1346
01:04:53,187 --> 01:04:57,627
Speaker 17: do pick the water bottles, but not for the all blacks.

1347
01:04:57,787 --> 01:04:59,027
Speaker 17: When am I going to get the call up?

1348
01:04:59,787 --> 01:05:02,667
Speaker 7: We've got a vetting process that we're to go through.

1349
01:05:02,707 --> 01:05:04,827
Speaker 7: We're currently doing it at the moment, so we'll come

1350
01:05:04,907 --> 01:05:05,427
Speaker 7: back to your things.

1351
01:05:05,507 --> 01:05:05,587
Speaker 4: Mat.

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01:05:06,467 --> 01:05:08,547
Speaker 3: You keep your hand in the ring there, Mark, keep

1353
01:05:08,587 --> 01:05:10,307
Speaker 3: doing it at a local level, and who knows you

1354
01:05:10,387 --> 01:05:12,347
Speaker 3: might get the call. We've got your number. We've got

1355
01:05:12,387 --> 01:05:14,427
Speaker 3: your number, Clive your question for Veriser.

1356
01:05:14,947 --> 01:05:19,267
Speaker 24: Yeah, good afternoon, guys. Listen. The frustration is the red

1357
01:05:19,347 --> 01:05:23,827
Speaker 24: card situation. Now, I've seen red cards for very similar

1358
01:05:24,147 --> 01:05:29,387
Speaker 24: events with very different results. One where it's considered accidental

1359
01:05:29,627 --> 01:05:31,987
Speaker 24: and one where you get a red card. You know,

1360
01:05:32,187 --> 01:05:34,187
Speaker 24: Sam Kine in the World Cup the last World Cup

1361
01:05:34,187 --> 01:05:37,987
Speaker 24: would be an example of that. I've seen one recently

1362
01:05:38,067 --> 01:05:40,547
Speaker 24: in super rugby where it was a ricochet, so the

1363
01:05:41,187 --> 01:05:45,347
Speaker 24: guy that recocheted into the ball holder had no hope

1364
01:05:45,347 --> 01:05:49,907
Speaker 24: of avoiding it. A red card. But I'm curious what

1365
01:05:50,067 --> 01:05:53,307
Speaker 24: do you guys get by way of feedback from either

1366
01:05:53,547 --> 01:05:58,827
Speaker 24: the judiciary or the refereeing whoever looks after that that

1367
01:06:00,427 --> 01:06:04,427
Speaker 24: because it must be frustrating for you as the coach, Scott, Yeah.

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Speaker 7: It can be the first thing. Or'll just look to

1369
01:06:07,067 --> 01:06:10,307
Speaker 7: the same clivers. We focus on what we can control

1370
01:06:10,347 --> 01:06:14,467
Speaker 7: and that's our technique. So how can we be technically ready,

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Speaker 7: So we're not in a position where you're going to

1372
01:06:17,547 --> 01:06:20,747
Speaker 7: a TMO. But if we do so, you practice as

1373
01:06:20,827 --> 01:06:25,227
Speaker 7: best you possibly can to be safe and like I said,

1374
01:06:25,267 --> 01:06:28,307
Speaker 7: around their self control. So everyone's got different ways in

1375
01:06:28,387 --> 01:06:30,267
Speaker 7: different styles, but we've got to show that to the

1376
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Speaker 7: ref consistently. Now with the yellow card that's on report,

1377
01:06:34,827 --> 01:06:38,427
Speaker 7: that slowly always evolves, so they're trying to speed the

1378
01:06:38,507 --> 01:06:41,187
Speaker 7: process up as much as they can, but also protect players.

1379
01:06:41,467 --> 01:06:43,347
Speaker 7: Now that's the balance of the two. They've got to

1380
01:06:43,387 --> 01:06:47,227
Speaker 7: get the health of the players right and the laws

1381
01:06:47,267 --> 01:06:50,187
Speaker 7: of the game right, but also the speed. And you

1382
01:06:50,267 --> 01:06:52,907
Speaker 7: could see that it's evolved probably from Sam Knees example,

1383
01:06:53,187 --> 01:06:56,307
Speaker 7: you know that would have been on you know was

1384
01:06:56,347 --> 01:06:58,827
Speaker 7: a read and the end that was probably going to

1385
01:06:58,827 --> 01:07:00,987
Speaker 7: be on report and then today in AGEA would have

1386
01:07:01,227 --> 01:07:03,427
Speaker 7: just been a twenty minute And I think that's where

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01:07:03,427 --> 01:07:05,147
Speaker 7: they've got to over the years and we're in a

1388
01:07:05,187 --> 01:07:07,467
Speaker 7: good place at the moment. It feels like it's changing

1389
01:07:07,467 --> 01:07:10,627
Speaker 7: all the time, because probably is, but they are evolving

1390
01:07:10,667 --> 01:07:12,707
Speaker 7: it so it can be like I said, fast, clean,

1391
01:07:12,747 --> 01:07:14,547
Speaker 7: everyone understanding, everyone's healthy.

1392
01:07:14,867 --> 01:07:18,067
Speaker 3: Good on your Clive. Thanks for bringing up a pertinent issue.

1393
01:07:18,467 --> 01:07:20,547
Speaker 3: We carry on, Jason, you're up next. What's your question

1394
01:07:20,627 --> 01:07:21,067
Speaker 3: for Raiser?

1395
01:07:22,067 --> 01:07:24,707
Speaker 13: Oh goo chips, Yeah, question for Raisa. I was just

1396
01:07:24,827 --> 01:07:28,867
Speaker 13: curious about player psychology. Actually, I recall back in the

1397
01:07:29,387 --> 01:07:32,347
Speaker 13: back in the day, so the Richard McCord era was

1398
01:07:32,347 --> 01:07:35,667
Speaker 13: always a huge edge that the or Blacks had. I

1399
01:07:35,707 --> 01:07:39,627
Speaker 13: remember that that psychology component being quite key. And with these,

1400
01:07:40,147 --> 01:07:42,747
Speaker 13: as you were sayings earlier, the seven teams, the top seven,

1401
01:07:42,827 --> 01:07:46,227
Speaker 13: not much between them anymore. I'm just wondering how that's innovated,

1402
01:07:46,907 --> 01:07:52,947
Speaker 13: especially under your p under your current leadership. And yeah,

1403
01:07:53,147 --> 01:07:55,987
Speaker 13: if that's still such a focus, yeah, oh.

1404
01:07:55,907 --> 01:08:00,227
Speaker 7: For sure, that's massive part of the game, understanding yourself.

1405
01:08:00,267 --> 01:08:06,227
Speaker 7: What we've got Doctor ker Evans, who's yeah, clinical psychologists

1406
01:08:06,387 --> 01:08:09,787
Speaker 7: in the forensic criateous. Oh, he's got a lot of

1407
01:08:09,867 --> 01:08:13,107
Speaker 7: leaders after his name. Anyways, a lot of study and

1408
01:08:13,267 --> 01:08:15,187
Speaker 7: he's a hell of a man. He's been around and

1409
01:08:15,227 --> 01:08:18,547
Speaker 7: played one hundred games for the All Whites and football

1410
01:08:18,547 --> 01:08:19,907
Speaker 7: and being around the All backs for a long period

1411
01:08:19,947 --> 01:08:21,627
Speaker 7: of time. And he does a lot of work individually

1412
01:08:21,707 --> 01:08:23,547
Speaker 7: and then a team as well. So a lot of

1413
01:08:23,587 --> 01:08:25,747
Speaker 7: your mental stuff tying back into your identity and who

1414
01:08:25,787 --> 01:08:28,747
Speaker 7: we are. But then also what do you need you know?

1415
01:08:29,267 --> 01:08:33,347
Speaker 7: Do you become extremely frustrated quickly or do you become

1416
01:08:33,427 --> 01:08:38,147
Speaker 7: too passive? Do you like where do you sit individually?

1417
01:08:38,467 --> 01:08:40,307
Speaker 7: So if you make an era or if you don't

1418
01:08:40,347 --> 01:08:42,507
Speaker 7: make an era, or how can you be right on

1419
01:08:42,587 --> 01:08:45,347
Speaker 7: the spot where you need to be for each game

1420
01:08:45,587 --> 01:08:48,427
Speaker 7: and each moment. How can your distractions, the skill set

1421
01:08:48,507 --> 01:08:50,107
Speaker 7: and the tools that you can get back to being

1422
01:08:50,147 --> 01:08:51,747
Speaker 7: present in the moment. So we do a lot of

1423
01:08:51,787 --> 01:08:55,187
Speaker 7: work on it. It's a big part of all sport

1424
01:08:55,667 --> 01:08:59,027
Speaker 7: and any mental health in general. A lot of care

1425
01:08:59,067 --> 01:09:00,747
Speaker 7: goes during the in the weekendo.

1426
01:09:00,347 --> 01:09:03,507
Speaker 3: It Thanks for your call, Jason, it's just on twenty

1427
01:09:03,587 --> 01:09:05,227
Speaker 3: three away from two. We'll take a quick break, come

1428
01:09:05,307 --> 01:09:07,387
Speaker 3: back with more of your calls. Raiser Robinson with us

1429
01:09:07,747 --> 01:09:09,547
Speaker 3: until two o'clock here on News Talks edb.

1430
01:09:11,227 --> 01:09:14,907
Speaker 1: New Zealand's most scrutinized position. Well, I just say to you,

1431
01:09:15,027 --> 01:09:17,947
Speaker 1: I think not the Prime Minister. The Old Blacks coach

1432
01:09:18,147 --> 01:09:21,587
Speaker 1: Scott Robertson on your Home of Sport Weekends Sport with

1433
01:09:21,787 --> 01:09:25,667
Speaker 1: Jason Pine and GJ gun Homes New Zealand's most trusted

1434
01:09:25,707 --> 01:09:27,307
Speaker 1: homebuilder News Talks edb.

1435
01:09:27,507 --> 01:09:29,347
Speaker 3: It's the most scrutinized. More questions to come. I just

1436
01:09:29,387 --> 01:09:31,347
Speaker 3: want to ask you about Club Rugby because your name

1437
01:09:31,427 --> 01:09:34,307
Speaker 3: just Squad at the Coastal Rugby Club. Many of your

1438
01:09:34,347 --> 01:09:36,467
Speaker 3: players spent time at Club Rugby yesterday. I've seen some

1439
01:09:36,507 --> 01:09:38,787
Speaker 3: wonderful footage on the All Black Socials about that. How

1440
01:09:38,867 --> 01:09:41,787
Speaker 3: important is Club Rugby to you as far as the

1441
01:09:41,827 --> 01:09:44,107
Speaker 3: New Zealand rugby ecosystem is concerned.

1442
01:09:44,427 --> 01:09:46,947
Speaker 7: Oh, it's critical pathway, isn't it? From schools to club

1443
01:09:47,027 --> 01:09:49,947
Speaker 7: and club's another home for everyone. You know where you

1444
01:09:50,067 --> 01:09:54,707
Speaker 7: belong and you have so many memories and generational moments

1445
01:09:54,747 --> 01:09:57,547
Speaker 7: that that you want to connect with, you know, in

1446
01:09:57,667 --> 01:09:59,267
Speaker 7: going out there was a big, big part of it

1447
01:10:00,747 --> 01:10:03,187
Speaker 7: at the beach on Jester was beautiful to the Heather family.

1448
01:10:04,707 --> 01:10:07,187
Speaker 7: You know with Corey last year what he and it

1449
01:10:07,267 --> 01:10:09,587
Speaker 7: was pretty tough on all the rugby community and just

1450
01:10:09,627 --> 01:10:11,107
Speaker 7: to go and connect with them and just show an

1451
01:10:11,107 --> 01:10:13,547
Speaker 7: appreciation that. You know, there were so many all back

1452
01:10:13,587 --> 01:10:16,427
Speaker 7: jeesies running around and they were just you're just so

1453
01:10:16,547 --> 01:10:18,387
Speaker 7: proud that we could go out there, and we're pleased

1454
01:10:18,387 --> 01:10:20,427
Speaker 7: we could as well. It was amazing. Good on you.

1455
01:10:20,547 --> 01:10:21,987
Speaker 3: Let's go back to the lines. John, You've got a

1456
01:10:22,027 --> 01:10:22,707
Speaker 3: question for Raiser.

1457
01:10:24,027 --> 01:10:29,227
Speaker 25: Yeah, right, I'll ask you about selecting Anton Lennard Brown

1458
01:10:29,387 --> 01:10:32,707
Speaker 25: when he hasn't played and I don't know when he's

1459
01:10:32,747 --> 01:10:34,627
Speaker 25: going to be ready to play again. When you've got

1460
01:10:34,787 --> 01:10:38,747
Speaker 25: guys like Brydon En who I thought hit a particularly

1461
01:10:38,827 --> 01:10:40,667
Speaker 25: good season at the center.

1462
01:10:41,587 --> 01:10:46,187
Speaker 7: Yeah, he did look on will be available after a

1463
01:10:46,227 --> 01:10:48,787
Speaker 7: couple of tests. It's good count for him to come

1464
01:10:48,827 --> 01:10:51,667
Speaker 7: and train obviously because he can play in those fist

1465
01:10:51,707 --> 01:10:53,227
Speaker 7: Cup of tests. We brought the money and there's a wing,

1466
01:10:53,347 --> 01:10:55,587
Speaker 7: so that sort of bounced out that the back three

1467
01:10:55,667 --> 01:10:59,627
Speaker 7: for us. But he's extremely experienced. He's been for because

1468
01:10:59,667 --> 01:11:01,227
Speaker 7: he's been in the game for so long, and he

1469
01:11:01,227 --> 01:11:03,227
Speaker 7: can play a couple of positions, even three positions. He's

1470
01:11:03,227 --> 01:11:05,147
Speaker 7: feel available to us, so that was a decision we

1471
01:11:05,227 --> 01:11:05,547
Speaker 7: made there.

1472
01:11:05,827 --> 01:11:08,307
Speaker 3: Good on your thanks John for your call. Josh, you

1473
01:11:08,387 --> 01:11:09,707
Speaker 3: got a question for Raser.

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01:11:11,507 --> 01:11:16,187
Speaker 9: Yeah, Hirasa Ta Ta Nawai did you pick him as

1475
01:11:16,227 --> 01:11:20,147
Speaker 9: a as a second fiber or a lease award? I'm

1476
01:11:20,187 --> 01:11:21,067
Speaker 9: thinking in his head.

1477
01:11:22,507 --> 01:11:24,467
Speaker 7: He's a bit of a hybrid, doesn't he check him

1478
01:11:24,467 --> 01:11:26,947
Speaker 7: on the side of this gun. Look, he's in anticipation

1479
01:11:27,067 --> 01:11:28,787
Speaker 7: to get on the balls. Pretty incredible. He's got the

1480
01:11:28,827 --> 01:11:31,307
Speaker 7: mindset and he's got those little pumpers that he just

1481
01:11:31,427 --> 01:11:33,147
Speaker 7: gets over the ball like a land crab and he

1482
01:11:33,227 --> 01:11:35,547
Speaker 7: just locks and and he can turn that ball over.

1483
01:11:35,627 --> 01:11:40,267
Speaker 7: He's Yeah, he's differently a powerful player and good at

1484
01:11:40,267 --> 01:11:40,707
Speaker 7: the breakdown.

1485
01:11:41,587 --> 01:11:44,507
Speaker 3: We'll keep going James out of the Lovely Hawks, Bay.

1486
01:11:44,547 --> 01:11:45,627
Speaker 3: What's your question for Raser?

1487
01:11:46,507 --> 01:11:49,547
Speaker 21: Thanks finally, Raiser, just I feel like I'm speaking on

1488
01:11:49,667 --> 01:11:52,107
Speaker 21: behalf of a lot of the New Zealand rugby public here.

1489
01:11:52,387 --> 01:11:55,227
Speaker 21: But what I want to know is why do the

1490
01:11:55,307 --> 01:12:00,507
Speaker 21: selectors persist on playing Rico Yoanni at center? My mind,

1491
01:12:00,627 --> 01:12:02,787
Speaker 21: he was a brilliant winger for the All Blacks. He's

1492
01:12:02,787 --> 01:12:05,667
Speaker 21: scored a lot of tries and I just don't feel

1493
01:12:05,707 --> 01:12:07,787
Speaker 21: that we've seen him be the.

1494
01:12:07,867 --> 01:12:08,707
Speaker 25: Player he was.

1495
01:12:10,907 --> 01:12:13,707
Speaker 21: As center, and I don't know what I just I'm

1496
01:12:13,747 --> 01:12:17,187
Speaker 21: baffled as to why the selectors persist with him in

1497
01:12:17,227 --> 01:12:17,707
Speaker 21: that position.

1498
01:12:18,467 --> 01:12:20,627
Speaker 7: Yeah, look, a lot of the games. He finished on

1499
01:12:20,667 --> 01:12:23,147
Speaker 7: the wing last year when we were mindful of the

1500
01:12:23,187 --> 01:12:26,067
Speaker 7: combinations when we first started, and we had lost seven

1501
01:12:26,147 --> 01:12:29,067
Speaker 7: hundred Test caps last year and there's a lot of experience,

1502
01:12:29,107 --> 01:12:30,947
Speaker 7: so that was part of part of the reason we

1503
01:12:31,067 --> 01:12:33,107
Speaker 7: paid them there and then east them back into the

1504
01:12:34,227 --> 01:12:37,627
Speaker 7: back end on the wing post rugby at center as well,

1505
01:12:37,667 --> 01:12:39,427
Speaker 7: and then that's how we started. But in the year

1506
01:12:39,987 --> 01:12:43,067
Speaker 7: he did play wing and like I said, to play

1507
01:12:43,067 --> 01:12:46,307
Speaker 7: a couple of positions really critical and he can definitely

1508
01:12:47,067 --> 01:12:48,787
Speaker 7: get on the wing and finished trise.

1509
01:12:49,107 --> 01:12:52,907
Speaker 3: Just on the center position. With my Hurricanes fan hat

1510
01:12:52,987 --> 01:12:55,387
Speaker 3: on Billy propped it is he pushing hard for that

1511
01:12:55,547 --> 01:12:56,667
Speaker 3: thirteen years of this year.

1512
01:12:57,347 --> 01:13:00,587
Speaker 7: He's playing good, he's playing great footy. He's got his

1513
01:13:00,667 --> 01:13:06,027
Speaker 7: body and great nick he's matured the young dad and

1514
01:13:06,147 --> 01:13:09,587
Speaker 7: he's really consistent. So you've definitely got an opportunity.

1515
01:13:09,707 --> 01:13:11,507
Speaker 3: Good to hear spe lying there, oh eight hundred and

1516
01:13:11,507 --> 01:13:13,027
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty with you, and to set John. The

1517
01:13:13,107 --> 01:13:14,907
Speaker 3: other thing I just that occurred to me at the

1518
01:13:14,907 --> 01:13:17,147
Speaker 3: back end of Super rugby was there seem to be

1519
01:13:17,227 --> 01:13:21,867
Speaker 3: some real passion, some real feeling between opposition sites. I

1520
01:13:21,907 --> 01:13:24,907
Speaker 3: wouldn't say it boiled over into dislike or hatred or

1521
01:13:24,947 --> 01:13:28,667
Speaker 3: anything like that. But these guys were clearly determined to

1522
01:13:28,747 --> 01:13:30,907
Speaker 3: beat one another. When they come together in the all

1523
01:13:30,947 --> 01:13:32,947
Speaker 3: Blacks camp, is that something you have to manage?

1524
01:13:34,787 --> 01:13:37,107
Speaker 7: Nah, they go on hug each other and kissing cattle.

1525
01:13:37,187 --> 01:13:42,387
Speaker 7: I think it's more a sign of the competitiveness, what

1526
01:13:42,427 --> 01:13:44,147
Speaker 7: they care about, where they belong, when they come from.

1527
01:13:44,227 --> 01:13:46,147
Speaker 7: But you know, the black jersey unite you. The team

1528
01:13:46,187 --> 01:13:49,227
Speaker 7: Black comes in and then that competition's done. Now on

1529
01:13:49,307 --> 01:13:51,827
Speaker 7: represent in my country. So you need that, you need

1530
01:13:51,907 --> 01:13:56,987
Speaker 7: the rivalry, You need all those things to come together.

1531
01:13:57,147 --> 01:13:59,907
Speaker 7: So you know, you've got heroes and villains. You know,

1532
01:13:59,907 --> 01:14:03,827
Speaker 7: I got storylines and that makes it. The people love

1533
01:14:03,907 --> 01:14:06,387
Speaker 7: the theater of it. But when it's it's done and

1534
01:14:06,627 --> 01:14:07,027
Speaker 7: you move on.

1535
01:14:07,227 --> 01:14:10,627
Speaker 3: Are you're okay with with your players having personalities, displaying

1536
01:14:10,667 --> 01:14:14,747
Speaker 3: their personality and you always were an exuberant personality yourself.

1537
01:14:15,867 --> 01:14:19,747
Speaker 3: You're because rugby, like any sport, needs narratives, doesn't it.

1538
01:14:19,987 --> 01:14:22,227
Speaker 3: You're happy for guys like Recco are your artie to

1539
01:14:22,467 --> 01:14:24,707
Speaker 3: get on social media and stir things up a little bit.

1540
01:14:25,387 --> 01:14:27,707
Speaker 7: Looks Rique, Look he's actually he's a good man. He

1541
01:14:27,787 --> 01:14:30,507
Speaker 7: plays that game a little bit you. You probably have

1542
01:14:30,827 --> 01:14:32,987
Speaker 7: one joker in your team, aren't you, you know, and

1543
01:14:33,387 --> 01:14:40,107
Speaker 7: he's that guy entice his people. But you know, look,

1544
01:14:40,187 --> 01:14:43,947
Speaker 7: that's the other side to me is incredible professional. He's

1545
01:14:43,987 --> 01:14:46,747
Speaker 7: deeply about who he's playing for, works really, really hard,

1546
01:14:47,587 --> 01:14:49,227
Speaker 7: and he's played a hell a lot of rugby in

1547
01:14:49,227 --> 01:14:53,107
Speaker 7: the last nine to ten years. And you know when

1548
01:14:53,147 --> 01:14:55,507
Speaker 7: he rang and said, look, I would like to go

1549
01:14:55,627 --> 01:14:59,307
Speaker 7: to Dublin and fellow Georgia, I was like, you repeat that, man,

1550
01:14:59,947 --> 01:15:01,787
Speaker 7: that's awesome. You know, you know he'll be a better

1551
01:15:01,907 --> 01:15:04,307
Speaker 7: player for that. And the opportunity created for himself for

1552
01:15:04,387 --> 01:15:06,787
Speaker 7: being so consistent to get away will be know. I'm

1553
01:15:06,827 --> 01:15:07,547
Speaker 7: great to stick for him.

1554
01:15:08,027 --> 01:15:09,987
Speaker 3: Back to the lines we go. Hi, John, your your

1555
01:15:10,067 --> 01:15:10,787
Speaker 3: question for Raser?

1556
01:15:11,747 --> 01:15:14,987
Speaker 4: Yeah, Raser? Did you did you watch them?

1557
01:15:15,027 --> 01:15:15,867
Speaker 8: Mary or great?

1558
01:15:16,307 --> 01:15:16,507
Speaker 23: Yeah?

1559
01:15:16,787 --> 01:15:19,387
Speaker 7: How good? How talented? Are they? So good to see.

1560
01:15:21,147 --> 01:15:23,587
Speaker 4: And what a very little first live.

1561
01:15:25,067 --> 01:15:26,147
Speaker 7: Rivers Rahana.

1562
01:15:28,707 --> 01:15:31,467
Speaker 3: Listeners from.

1563
01:15:33,587 --> 01:15:36,427
Speaker 7: Used to play with his dead and Brucie. He was

1564
01:15:36,467 --> 01:15:40,187
Speaker 7: a hell of a player himself. You can see all

1565
01:15:40,187 --> 01:15:43,187
Speaker 7: the traits in the character's come through. He's coming up

1566
01:15:43,227 --> 01:15:44,467
Speaker 7: aging and nicely. Good stuff.

1567
01:15:44,507 --> 01:15:44,707
Speaker 4: John.

1568
01:15:44,747 --> 01:15:47,307
Speaker 3: Thanks, Indeed, we'll get a couple more in George Hi mate,

1569
01:15:47,307 --> 01:15:48,267
Speaker 3: what's your question for Raiser?

1570
01:15:50,067 --> 01:15:52,507
Speaker 23: And hey, thanks plenty for giving us so much public

1571
01:15:52,627 --> 01:15:55,867
Speaker 23: exist to Razor, it's awesome, hey, Rasor, Christian for you.

1572
01:15:56,027 --> 01:15:58,787
Speaker 23: As a follow up to that fully proper comment before

1573
01:16:00,227 --> 01:16:02,827
Speaker 23: Rico was obviously preferred last year, it seems so what

1574
01:16:03,227 --> 01:16:05,907
Speaker 23: what was he offering more last year than the what

1575
01:16:06,027 --> 01:16:09,267
Speaker 23: the le wasn't in with with a lot of talk

1576
01:16:09,347 --> 01:16:11,467
Speaker 23: Scott Hanson and then at the selection about wanting to

1577
01:16:11,547 --> 01:16:13,627
Speaker 23: go a lot wider this year and get into the

1578
01:16:13,667 --> 01:16:16,947
Speaker 23: space that suits Billy team for just the comment of

1579
01:16:17,067 --> 01:16:19,307
Speaker 23: Belie versus find the third a jumper.

1580
01:16:20,827 --> 01:16:21,467
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's.

1581
01:16:22,827 --> 01:16:25,187
Speaker 7: Probably the big thing with Ricky just is his experience.

1582
01:16:25,227 --> 01:16:28,987
Speaker 7: And I suppose you have to pay pals to get experience,

1583
01:16:29,027 --> 01:16:30,867
Speaker 7: and that's the balance that you do. And you win

1584
01:16:30,907 --> 01:16:32,427
Speaker 7: the Test. You're trying to win the Test match in

1585
01:16:32,507 --> 01:16:34,067
Speaker 7: front of you, so you get the balance of it.

1586
01:16:34,907 --> 01:16:36,707
Speaker 7: But the great thing is Billy's played Buddy well this

1587
01:16:36,827 --> 01:16:39,227
Speaker 7: year and and and he's kept the pressure on us,

1588
01:16:40,427 --> 01:16:41,787
Speaker 7: you know, and we'll get the best out of both

1589
01:16:41,787 --> 01:16:43,427
Speaker 7: of them, and I think you know, pick them for

1590
01:16:44,307 --> 01:16:46,427
Speaker 7: in the right positions we feel it is to win

1591
01:16:46,507 --> 01:16:47,027
Speaker 7: for our country.

1592
01:16:47,267 --> 01:16:50,067
Speaker 3: Good on you, George just on Super Rugby. No one

1593
01:16:50,147 --> 01:16:52,107
Speaker 3: forced rest this year. He didn't say, you got guys

1594
01:16:52,187 --> 01:16:54,107
Speaker 3: need to only play six matches in a row and

1595
01:16:54,187 --> 01:16:57,947
Speaker 3: then and then not play again. Ricco started every game

1596
01:16:57,987 --> 01:17:00,987
Speaker 3: for the Blues Quartie summer, Penny Finale played every game

1597
01:17:01,027 --> 01:17:03,547
Speaker 3: for the Chiefs Dupes, and cam roy Gard every game

1598
01:17:03,547 --> 01:17:06,867
Speaker 3: for the Hurricanes. Any concerns about their oding as you

1599
01:17:06,947 --> 01:17:07,867
Speaker 3: go into the Test season.

1600
01:17:09,267 --> 01:17:12,707
Speaker 7: One thing I did when we first come in, I

1601
01:17:12,787 --> 01:17:14,947
Speaker 7: wanted to try and change the narrative around it, like

1602
01:17:16,587 --> 01:17:19,027
Speaker 7: you know, it's all back rest that that sort of gone,

1603
01:17:19,067 --> 01:17:21,147
Speaker 7: hasn't it in the last couple of years. I wanted

1604
01:17:21,187 --> 01:17:25,227
Speaker 7: to individualize it because you want to get the best

1605
01:17:25,267 --> 01:17:26,907
Speaker 7: out of players. Some players have been injured the year

1606
01:17:26,947 --> 01:17:29,667
Speaker 7: before and they had to have five games in the rest,

1607
01:17:29,867 --> 01:17:32,947
Speaker 7: but some games, some players just need six, seven, eight games.

1608
01:17:33,507 --> 01:17:36,187
Speaker 7: So those guys were managed in the back, in the background.

1609
01:17:36,587 --> 01:17:39,107
Speaker 7: They still played where they needed to, but they were

1610
01:17:39,187 --> 01:17:41,627
Speaker 7: they were managing the background of off the field with

1611
01:17:41,747 --> 01:17:44,147
Speaker 7: their training still to get the best out of them.

1612
01:17:44,307 --> 01:17:47,267
Speaker 7: So more individualized to get the best out of them.

1613
01:17:47,347 --> 01:17:49,787
Speaker 7: So you learn by playing, you get better by playing,

1614
01:17:50,907 --> 01:17:55,187
Speaker 7: and everyone was different. Some players had less some but

1615
01:17:55,307 --> 01:17:57,667
Speaker 7: it wasn't made public, so we didn't have an article

1616
01:17:57,667 --> 01:17:59,467
Speaker 7: and even goes of All Backs aren't watching, so I'm

1617
01:17:59,507 --> 01:18:02,787
Speaker 7: not watching. Start playing, so I'm not watching. Excuse me?

1618
01:18:02,987 --> 01:18:05,507
Speaker 7: So yeah, the narrative changed a little bit and it's

1619
01:18:05,547 --> 01:18:07,027
Speaker 7: working here just.

1620
01:18:07,107 --> 01:18:08,867
Speaker 3: On eleven away from two. One more break and then

1621
01:18:08,907 --> 01:18:10,707
Speaker 3: back with our final few minutes with All Blacks coach

1622
01:18:10,747 --> 01:18:12,427
Speaker 3: Scott Robertson here on News Talks dB.

1623
01:18:13,907 --> 01:18:16,947
Speaker 1: Board. Your question to the coach, All Black's coach, Scot

1624
01:18:17,107 --> 01:18:20,427
Speaker 1: Robertson taking your calls on eight hundred eighty ten eighty

1625
01:18:20,547 --> 01:18:24,387
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Vine and DJ gun Homes, New

1626
01:18:24,507 --> 01:18:26,867
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1627
01:18:26,907 --> 01:18:28,747
Speaker 3: That'd be seven and a half away from two. Man

1628
01:18:28,827 --> 01:18:31,867
Speaker 3: the hour has flown by. So we're getting ready for

1629
01:18:32,267 --> 01:18:35,667
Speaker 3: a test series against France. Do you know you're starting

1630
01:18:35,747 --> 01:18:40,827
Speaker 3: fifteen before the squad assembles? Are the first test on it?

1631
01:18:41,307 --> 01:18:45,027
Speaker 7: Yep? Yeah, well yes and no, you're sort of eighty

1632
01:18:45,067 --> 01:18:48,427
Speaker 7: percent there. Obviously, there's some medicals and scans to have

1633
01:18:48,547 --> 01:18:51,347
Speaker 7: after finals and you and you sort of try and

1634
01:18:51,427 --> 01:18:54,187
Speaker 7: work out the whole test series. Git Afield, who can

1635
01:18:54,227 --> 01:18:56,627
Speaker 7: play so we can play all of the players ideally

1636
01:18:56,827 --> 01:19:00,507
Speaker 7: that that's the intention. Doesn't sometimes always work that way,

1637
01:19:00,667 --> 01:19:03,427
Speaker 7: and then you know you have your first twenty three

1638
01:19:03,427 --> 01:19:04,667
Speaker 7: and what is it going to work off off the

1639
01:19:04,747 --> 01:19:07,907
Speaker 7: back of that? So then you get again incommodations, training,

1640
01:19:07,907 --> 01:19:08,267
Speaker 7: et cetera.

1641
01:19:08,467 --> 01:19:11,347
Speaker 3: You mentioned before, and it's well documented every test you

1642
01:19:11,467 --> 01:19:13,947
Speaker 3: lost last year you let it halftime. So is that

1643
01:19:14,107 --> 01:19:17,067
Speaker 3: finishing the last twenty minutes or whatever it might be.

1644
01:19:17,227 --> 01:19:18,587
Speaker 3: Is that Has that been a real focus ahead of

1645
01:19:18,627 --> 01:19:19,307
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five?

1646
01:19:20,027 --> 01:19:20,227
Speaker 4: Yep?

1647
01:19:20,347 --> 01:19:22,387
Speaker 7: Yeah. You stage it into your trainings and you make

1648
01:19:22,427 --> 01:19:23,867
Speaker 7: people aware of it and what does it look like?

1649
01:19:24,027 --> 01:19:26,627
Speaker 7: And you know, how do we react to it? And

1650
01:19:27,267 --> 01:19:31,307
Speaker 7: so you start training those daily habits part of it,

1651
01:19:31,347 --> 01:19:33,147
Speaker 7: and just more important in your mindset. You know, we

1652
01:19:33,267 --> 01:19:35,907
Speaker 7: probably stopped paying a little bit. Sometimes, sometimes you overplayed,

1653
01:19:35,947 --> 01:19:38,067
Speaker 7: sometimes the discipline wasn't great. So it's not just one thing,

1654
01:19:38,867 --> 01:19:41,027
Speaker 7: but the awareness of it, and then you put it

1655
01:19:41,067 --> 01:19:42,827
Speaker 7: into training as much as you can and all the

1656
01:19:42,867 --> 01:19:43,947
Speaker 7: mental skill stuff as well.

1657
01:19:44,947 --> 01:19:47,067
Speaker 3: I mean you must sit there in the first half

1658
01:19:47,107 --> 01:19:49,747
Speaker 3: of the year watching Super Rugby, watching the eighteen rounds

1659
01:19:49,787 --> 01:19:51,307
Speaker 3: of it and then the finals and think, man, can

1660
01:19:51,347 --> 01:19:54,187
Speaker 3: I just get my hands on these guys? And now

1661
01:19:54,547 --> 01:19:56,667
Speaker 3: you have got them. We're less than a week out

1662
01:19:56,707 --> 01:19:58,867
Speaker 3: from the first test. How are your emotions? How excited

1663
01:19:58,947 --> 01:20:00,307
Speaker 3: are you to get the Test season started?

1664
01:20:00,467 --> 01:20:01,867
Speaker 7: Yeah? Look, my job is to take it away as

1665
01:20:01,907 --> 01:20:04,307
Speaker 7: many distractions as possible, so we're really clear and free

1666
01:20:04,347 --> 01:20:07,627
Speaker 7: in mind so we can play. Got incredibly talented group

1667
01:20:08,387 --> 01:20:10,587
Speaker 7: that care deeply about it. So how do you set

1668
01:20:10,627 --> 01:20:11,947
Speaker 7: them up in the game. How do you send them

1669
01:20:11,987 --> 01:20:14,587
Speaker 7: off the off the field so when they come under

1670
01:20:14,627 --> 01:20:18,267
Speaker 7: the roof we can we can play fast and showcase

1671
01:20:18,387 --> 01:20:20,747
Speaker 7: that and deal with any adversity that comes along. So

1672
01:20:20,827 --> 01:20:22,707
Speaker 7: you're excited. You have all the plans in place, but

1673
01:20:22,747 --> 01:20:25,467
Speaker 7: you still got an adept and adjust as you go along.

1674
01:20:25,947 --> 01:20:28,107
Speaker 7: Test theories are different. You know, you don't often get

1675
01:20:28,147 --> 01:20:31,147
Speaker 7: to pay three to the same team three times in

1676
01:20:31,187 --> 01:20:33,227
Speaker 7: a row. So their own narratives, you know Test series.

1677
01:20:34,467 --> 01:20:36,187
Speaker 7: You know the French teams what it is that they'll be.

1678
01:20:36,227 --> 01:20:37,787
Speaker 7: French will just play who's in front of us with

1679
01:20:38,707 --> 01:20:40,547
Speaker 7: majority of the focuses on us. We know how they're

1680
01:20:40,587 --> 01:20:45,227
Speaker 7: going to play from the last few years, you know,

1681
01:20:45,347 --> 01:20:46,667
Speaker 7: and they'll bring the fair.

1682
01:20:46,907 --> 01:20:50,907
Speaker 3: And it's your intent to give everybody a game that's year.

1683
01:20:50,907 --> 01:20:54,147
Speaker 7: As I mentioned before that that's the intent to give

1684
01:20:54,187 --> 01:20:56,267
Speaker 7: the guys as many as an opportunity to pay in

1685
01:20:56,267 --> 01:20:57,307
Speaker 7: these three test series here.

1686
01:20:57,507 --> 01:21:02,147
Speaker 3: All right, So finally before we go, as I said before,

1687
01:21:02,227 --> 01:21:05,227
Speaker 3: it's amazing that you make yourself available to come in

1688
01:21:05,307 --> 01:21:07,627
Speaker 3: and take calls and and interact with the fans, And

1689
01:21:07,707 --> 01:21:09,667
Speaker 3: no doubt you get plenty of that when you're just

1690
01:21:09,747 --> 01:21:12,147
Speaker 3: out in the back getting your cold, or at at

1691
01:21:12,187 --> 01:21:15,667
Speaker 3: an airport or whatever you might be. It feels to

1692
01:21:15,747 --> 01:21:19,267
Speaker 3: me anyway as though you do embrace that. Though you do,

1693
01:21:19,467 --> 01:21:23,107
Speaker 3: and I presume that filters down, you are keen for

1694
01:21:24,027 --> 01:21:26,667
Speaker 3: everybody you know to be involved in the All Blacks

1695
01:21:26,667 --> 01:21:27,667
Speaker 3: and what you're about.

1696
01:21:28,347 --> 01:21:31,387
Speaker 7: Yeah, look, I'm a public figure, so I'm going to

1697
01:21:31,427 --> 01:21:34,467
Speaker 7: get public feedback. And your opinions are great because it

1698
01:21:34,547 --> 01:21:37,227
Speaker 7: means people care about our game and it's the national sport,

1699
01:21:37,307 --> 01:21:40,907
Speaker 7: and you're naturally recognized, and you know, look you have

1700
01:21:40,947 --> 01:21:42,707
Speaker 7: a scene around together we walk, which was a bigger

1701
01:21:42,747 --> 01:21:45,587
Speaker 7: part of it. I wanted the country to realize that

1702
01:21:45,747 --> 01:21:47,787
Speaker 7: we're representing them. So if I'm out in public walk

1703
01:21:47,827 --> 01:21:50,387
Speaker 7: and this gay's walked together, and and I say that

1704
01:21:50,507 --> 01:21:53,907
Speaker 7: to connected, so terrorism that people can see, you know,

1705
01:21:53,947 --> 01:21:58,667
Speaker 7: the artis the Scott Barretts that whoever's there that they're real,

1706
01:21:58,827 --> 01:22:02,067
Speaker 7: they can achieve it and in you know, keep that

1707
01:22:02,187 --> 01:22:03,627
Speaker 7: idolizing of the all blacks and.

1708
01:22:05,067 --> 01:22:07,227
Speaker 3: Connected when you often need and Tuesday is it?

1709
01:22:07,427 --> 01:22:09,947
Speaker 7: Yeah, Tuesday Tuesday down South.

1710
01:22:10,147 --> 01:22:12,747
Speaker 3: Fantastic. Well again, Razer, thank you for taking the time

1711
01:22:13,147 --> 01:22:16,027
Speaker 3: to pop in and and fill us all in. It's

1712
01:22:16,067 --> 01:22:18,387
Speaker 3: been been awesome to jett you. Hope you've enjoyed interacting

1713
01:22:18,467 --> 01:22:21,267
Speaker 3: with our listeners as well on the phone. Heaps of

1714
01:22:21,307 --> 01:22:23,067
Speaker 3: text we couldn't get to but we wish you all

1715
01:22:23,107 --> 01:22:25,467
Speaker 3: the best for the for the year ahead, starting with

1716
01:22:25,547 --> 01:22:28,467
Speaker 3: France and Dunedin next Saturday. Look forward to seeing you

1717
01:22:28,507 --> 01:22:28,787
Speaker 3: down there.

1718
01:22:28,867 --> 01:22:30,867
Speaker 7: Yeah, thanks for having me. Thanks you everyone listening as well,

1719
01:22:31,027 --> 01:22:31,467
Speaker 7: appreciate it.

1720
01:22:31,587 --> 01:22:34,827
Speaker 3: Scott raisor Robertson in studio with us. That's two years

1721
01:22:34,867 --> 01:22:35,627
Speaker 3: in a row. He's done it.

1722
01:22:36,147 --> 01:22:36,267
Speaker 4: Well.

1723
01:22:36,347 --> 01:22:37,947
Speaker 3: Let's hope that a year from now we can we

1724
01:22:37,987 --> 01:22:39,587
Speaker 3: can do it again. I won't make you commit to it,

1725
01:22:40,107 --> 01:22:41,667
Speaker 3: but could you commit to it next year?

1726
01:22:42,187 --> 01:22:42,387
Speaker 4: Do it?

1727
01:22:42,667 --> 01:22:47,067
Speaker 3: Go on there, Scar Robbitts Alive and Studio News, Sport Weather,

1728
01:22:47,147 --> 01:22:49,667
Speaker 3: next here at Newstalks there be at two.

1729
01:22:50,627 --> 01:22:54,747
Speaker 1: The only place for the big names, the big issues,

1730
01:22:55,547 --> 01:23:00,427
Speaker 1: the big controversies and the big conversations. It's all on

1731
01:23:00,587 --> 01:23:04,627
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Vain on your home of Sport.

1732
01:23:04,827 --> 01:23:08,347
Speaker 3: News Talks d BE two o seven. Welcome back in

1733
01:23:08,747 --> 01:23:10,587
Speaker 3: what on hour with Razor Man that went by in

1734
01:23:10,667 --> 01:23:14,467
Speaker 3: a flash. Thank you for all your calls, Thank you

1735
01:23:14,627 --> 01:23:17,027
Speaker 3: for trying to get through. It was pretty much a

1736
01:23:17,067 --> 01:23:19,227
Speaker 3: full board the whole hour, as you'd probably expect when

1737
01:23:19,267 --> 01:23:22,987
Speaker 3: you have the All Blacks coaching. A thousand texts which

1738
01:23:23,027 --> 01:23:24,747
Speaker 3: I couldn't get to and I'm really sorry for that.

1739
01:23:25,427 --> 01:23:27,627
Speaker 3: We just didn't have the time to get them all on,

1740
01:23:27,827 --> 01:23:30,627
Speaker 3: but I read if you had to raise her afterwards

1741
01:23:31,587 --> 01:23:35,107
Speaker 3: he was I think he was quite taken with the

1742
01:23:35,147 --> 01:23:37,107
Speaker 3: fact that there's so much engagement with his team. So

1743
01:23:37,347 --> 01:23:41,427
Speaker 3: thank you for engaging with us. All Blacks commentaries. You'll

1744
01:23:41,467 --> 01:23:45,547
Speaker 3: find them live on Gold Sport and iHeartRadio and News Talks.

1745
01:23:45,547 --> 01:23:48,427
Speaker 3: He'd be right across this calendar year. We start next

1746
01:23:48,467 --> 01:23:52,787
Speaker 3: Saturday in Dunedin. Then it's Wellington and Hamilton for matches

1747
01:23:52,787 --> 01:23:56,587
Speaker 3: against France, two tests away against Argentina, then those two

1748
01:23:56,787 --> 01:24:00,867
Speaker 3: massive games against South Africa in September Eden Park and

1749
01:24:00,947 --> 01:24:04,347
Speaker 3: Sky Stadium and Home and away led a slow Cup

1750
01:24:04,427 --> 01:24:07,147
Speaker 3: tests before the end of year tour. Rugby editor and

1751
01:24:07,267 --> 01:24:11,547
Speaker 3: match commentator Elliott Smith has his itinery Lockton. He'll be

1752
01:24:11,627 --> 01:24:13,707
Speaker 3: at all of them. I think I'm going to the

1753
01:24:13,787 --> 01:24:16,427
Speaker 3: home ones. I think that's good enough, isn't it? Off

1754
01:24:16,467 --> 01:24:20,467
Speaker 3: to Dandian next week Wellington Hamilton. What a job. I

1755
01:24:20,507 --> 01:24:23,107
Speaker 3: hope you can come with us and catch that commentary

1756
01:24:23,227 --> 01:24:26,747
Speaker 3: on News talks 'B and Gold Sport right across the year.

1757
01:24:27,507 --> 01:24:30,067
Speaker 3: We're in Dneda next week, as I say, at Emerson's Brewery.

1758
01:24:30,547 --> 01:24:32,747
Speaker 3: So if you're in Toneda next Saturday and you want

1759
01:24:32,747 --> 01:24:35,347
Speaker 3: to pop down between midday and three, please feel free.

1760
01:24:35,347 --> 01:24:37,187
Speaker 3: We'd love to see you. But a pre match banter

1761
01:24:37,547 --> 01:24:39,947
Speaker 3: always love some face to face talk back. I got

1762
01:24:39,987 --> 01:24:44,747
Speaker 3: a message from Dunedin sporting icon Michael mcgowry. You won't

1763
01:24:44,747 --> 01:24:47,747
Speaker 3: get out of Emerson's, he says, well, I kind of

1764
01:24:47,827 --> 01:24:51,627
Speaker 3: have to Mike to get to the game. But I

1765
01:24:51,827 --> 01:24:53,867
Speaker 3: like the way you're thinking. I like the way you're thinking.

1766
01:24:54,307 --> 01:24:58,267
Speaker 3: This hour, we're in Vegas where Kai Cutter France will

1767
01:24:58,387 --> 01:25:01,907
Speaker 3: fight for the UFC flyweight title as part of UFC

1768
01:25:02,067 --> 01:25:05,947
Speaker 3: three one seven later on today. Ravender Herniett is in

1769
01:25:06,067 --> 01:25:11,067
Speaker 3: Vegas Skysport UFC presenter and analyst James mccony, but later

1770
01:25:11,147 --> 01:25:13,907
Speaker 3: than normal, but we'll also be in for his regular slot,

1771
01:25:14,267 --> 01:25:17,227
Speaker 3: and very shortly we're with Alex Powell as we break

1772
01:25:17,267 --> 01:25:22,467
Speaker 3: down a really impressive qualifying effort by Liam Lawson at

1773
01:25:22,507 --> 01:25:26,147
Speaker 3: the Austrian Formula One Grand Prix. He will start sixth

1774
01:25:26,387 --> 01:25:29,747
Speaker 3: on the grid tomorrow morning, sixth for the Austrian Grand Prix.

1775
01:25:29,787 --> 01:25:32,867
Speaker 3: That's as high as he's been in twenty twenty five.

1776
01:25:32,947 --> 01:25:35,147
Speaker 3: But as we took over nine past two, as we

1777
01:25:35,267 --> 01:25:41,507
Speaker 3: always do at this time on weekend sport, it's time

1778
01:25:41,547 --> 01:25:42,787
Speaker 3: to catch you up with some of the things you

1779
01:25:42,907 --> 01:25:45,947
Speaker 3: might have missed. It's called in case you missed it.

1780
01:25:45,987 --> 01:25:49,627
Speaker 3: Let's start in the NRL. The Warriors losing back to

1781
01:25:49,707 --> 01:25:52,947
Speaker 3: back games for the first time this season, despite some

1782
01:25:53,227 --> 01:25:56,067
Speaker 3: aerial heroics from Lecqua hallasimas the.

1783
01:25:59,147 --> 01:26:04,907
Speaker 8: Hello seen Scot next to the posts where the Warriors.

1784
01:26:04,507 --> 01:26:06,067
Speaker 4: Give themselves on my trout.

1785
01:26:06,427 --> 01:26:08,587
Speaker 3: Yeah, going down twenty six twelve at sun Corp. They

1786
01:26:08,627 --> 01:26:10,867
Speaker 3: stay fourth on the table, but the big question mark

1787
01:26:10,947 --> 01:26:14,547
Speaker 3: is over Luke Metcalf. Has he done his ACL we'll

1788
01:26:14,547 --> 01:26:16,947
Speaker 3: find out in the next couple of days. Might he

1789
01:26:17,147 --> 01:26:19,587
Speaker 3: be out for the season. We keep our fingers crossed

1790
01:26:19,627 --> 01:26:22,987
Speaker 3: for the Warriors and for Luke Metcalf. The Dragons, meantime,

1791
01:26:23,427 --> 01:26:26,107
Speaker 3: had to hold off a fast finishing Paramatta Eels side

1792
01:26:26,547 --> 01:26:29,307
Speaker 3: before coming up with the game's defining moments.

1793
01:26:29,067 --> 01:26:37,947
Speaker 14: Christie, we're catching holds your stuff?

1794
01:26:39,787 --> 01:26:43,267
Speaker 3: Whatsa the tubby thirty four to twenty the Dragons getting

1795
01:26:43,307 --> 01:26:45,827
Speaker 3: there and for the third time in four games, the

1796
01:26:45,987 --> 01:26:49,147
Speaker 3: Dolphins racked up fifty, this time against the rabbit o's

1797
01:26:50,227 --> 01:26:51,787
Speaker 3: with years away.

1798
01:26:52,627 --> 01:26:58,707
Speaker 26: No one's close, Mitchell's closing but not fast enough. Hoo

1799
01:26:58,947 --> 01:27:03,907
Speaker 26: dummy you Lovelise punchers over.

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01:27:06,067 --> 01:27:08,267
Speaker 27: His day set advance.

1801
01:27:08,827 --> 01:27:09,027
Speaker 23: Yeah.

1802
01:27:09,147 --> 01:27:11,787
Speaker 3: The eight tries for the Dolphins in their fifty to

1803
01:27:11,867 --> 01:27:14,947
Speaker 3: twenty eight victory, taking them into the top eight. To rugby.

1804
01:27:15,027 --> 01:27:17,147
Speaker 3: The British and Irish Lions have begun their tour of

1805
01:27:17,187 --> 01:27:20,787
Speaker 3: Australia in dominant fashion against the Force. One of these

1806
01:27:20,867 --> 01:27:22,307
Speaker 3: reserves will be desperate.

1807
01:27:22,467 --> 01:27:26,187
Speaker 28: That tie got it to score one last try in

1808
01:27:26,267 --> 01:27:27,587
Speaker 28: front of coach.

1809
01:27:27,347 --> 01:27:32,827
Speaker 26: Andy Fowrel toy fort two handsOn mac Hanson comes GoF for.

1810
01:27:32,947 --> 01:27:36,867
Speaker 11: Here there is the final try a four five.

1811
01:27:36,787 --> 01:27:39,947
Speaker 9: Metril and the Prittish night climes for.

1812
01:27:40,147 --> 01:27:43,267
Speaker 3: A fifteen year fifty four to seven, the final score

1813
01:27:43,507 --> 01:27:46,267
Speaker 3: the Lions over the Force and Perth. Meantime, the Mario

1814
01:27:46,267 --> 01:27:49,027
Speaker 3: All Blacks have come from behind at half time, scoring

1815
01:27:49,187 --> 01:27:53,867
Speaker 3: six second half tries and thumping the Japan fifteen in Tokyo.

1816
01:27:54,227 --> 01:27:57,467
Speaker 26: So Walker, Leo Wedding arrive on numbers plenty of space

1817
01:27:57,507 --> 01:28:01,707
Speaker 26: away to the left. Win here, trust jailer, trust Send

1818
01:28:02,787 --> 01:28:06,387
Speaker 26: and the many All Blacks cracked the half century.

1819
01:28:06,067 --> 01:28:09,947
Speaker 3: Into fifty three twenty the final score there to cricket

1820
01:28:10,147 --> 01:28:15,267
Speaker 3: and Leandre Pretorious has become the youngest centurion in South

1821
01:28:15,307 --> 01:28:19,067
Speaker 3: Africa's Test cricket history. A brilliant one hundred and fifty

1822
01:28:19,147 --> 01:28:22,467
Speaker 3: three on debut at the age of nineteen years and

1823
01:28:22,587 --> 01:28:26,827
Speaker 3: ninety three days, and.

1824
01:28:26,907 --> 01:28:27,347
Speaker 9: He's got it.

1825
01:28:29,107 --> 01:28:34,827
Speaker 3: Lon Repertorious gets himself to a made it Test match

1826
01:28:34,947 --> 01:28:39,747
Speaker 3: hundred on debut. The left hander one hundred of one

1827
01:28:39,827 --> 01:28:41,787
Speaker 3: hundred and twelve balls on Day one of the First

1828
01:28:41,827 --> 01:28:45,347
Speaker 3: Tests against Zimbabwe and Bulawayo, helping the Proteas reach four

1829
01:28:45,467 --> 01:28:48,467
Speaker 3: eighteen for nine. He broke a record which has stood

1830
01:28:48,547 --> 01:28:52,107
Speaker 3: since December nineteen sixty three. It hasn't that a song

1831
01:28:52,147 --> 01:28:54,467
Speaker 3: by Frankie Velly anyway. Graham Pollock made one hundred and

1832
01:28:54,507 --> 01:28:57,307
Speaker 3: twenty back then against Australia and Sydney when he was

1833
01:28:57,427 --> 01:29:00,827
Speaker 3: nineteen years, three hundred and eighteen days. And finally our

1834
01:29:00,987 --> 01:29:05,307
Speaker 3: men's under nineteen basketball team have started the Fever Under

1835
01:29:05,387 --> 01:29:09,227
Speaker 3: nineteen World with a win over Argentina. Jackson wall at.

1836
01:29:09,187 --> 01:29:13,707
Speaker 15: The free throw line and he puts New Zealand clear

1837
01:29:13,747 --> 01:29:19,307
Speaker 15: by a score that might just about be enough seventy

1838
01:29:19,427 --> 01:29:25,067
Speaker 15: seven seventy two. Then Lacy is chucked as New Zealand

1839
01:29:25,147 --> 01:29:29,387
Speaker 15: open the Fever Under nineteen World Cup with a win

1840
01:29:29,947 --> 01:29:31,107
Speaker 15: over Argentina.

1841
01:29:32,107 --> 01:29:35,747
Speaker 1: Analyzing every view from every angle in the Sporting World

1842
01:29:35,947 --> 01:29:39,547
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Pie they call eight hundred eighty

1843
01:29:40,187 --> 01:29:41,027
Speaker 1: News Talks.

1844
01:29:40,867 --> 01:29:44,307
Speaker 3: EDB, News Talks EDB and Weekend Sport. We're talking very

1845
01:29:44,347 --> 01:29:48,307
Speaker 3: shortly with Alex Powell regarding Formula one, but our own

1846
01:29:48,587 --> 01:29:53,107
Speaker 3: Wellington Phoenix taking on Wrexham AFC next month at Sky Stadium.

1847
01:29:53,427 --> 01:29:55,067
Speaker 3: If you're going to be in the Capitol on the

1848
01:29:55,227 --> 01:29:58,547
Speaker 3: nineteenth of July or you can get there, we've got

1849
01:29:58,667 --> 01:30:02,067
Speaker 3: three double passes to give away to the game between

1850
01:30:02,107 --> 01:30:04,747
Speaker 3: now and three o'clock. We'll take texts on nine two

1851
01:30:04,907 --> 01:30:08,027
Speaker 3: ninety two. Simply text the word win and your name

1852
01:30:08,347 --> 01:30:11,147
Speaker 3: to nine two nine to two. Text the word win

1853
01:30:11,787 --> 01:30:13,947
Speaker 3: and your name to nine two nine two. Easy is

1854
01:30:13,987 --> 01:30:16,787
Speaker 3: that three double tickets to give away will draw and

1855
01:30:16,827 --> 01:30:19,467
Speaker 3: announce the winners before the end of the show. Pretty simple.

1856
01:30:19,907 --> 01:30:22,787
Speaker 3: Text win and your name to nine two nine two

1857
01:30:22,867 --> 01:30:24,667
Speaker 3: to be in to win one of three double passes

1858
01:30:24,667 --> 01:30:28,587
Speaker 3: to watch Wellington Phoenix take on Wrexham AFC next month

1859
01:30:28,747 --> 01:30:32,267
Speaker 3: at Sky Stadium. It's just on fourteen pass to a

1860
01:30:32,387 --> 01:30:36,547
Speaker 3: strong qualifying performance from Liam Lawson ahead of tomorrow's Austrian

1861
01:30:36,747 --> 01:30:39,547
Speaker 3: Formula One Grand Prix the Key we will start from

1862
01:30:39,667 --> 01:30:41,867
Speaker 3: sixth on the grid, the best of the four red

1863
01:30:41,907 --> 01:30:45,587
Speaker 3: ball back drivers after reigning champion Max for stap and

1864
01:30:45,667 --> 01:30:48,587
Speaker 3: had to settle for seventh fastest. His final lap was

1865
01:30:48,667 --> 01:30:51,667
Speaker 3: ruined by a late yellow flag. It is Liam Lawson's

1866
01:30:51,747 --> 01:30:55,187
Speaker 3: best qualifying effort of the season, beating his starting spot

1867
01:30:55,227 --> 01:30:56,707
Speaker 3: of ninth. That the Monaco Grand Prix.

1868
01:30:56,787 --> 01:30:58,587
Speaker 27: We've done a lot of work on the car and

1869
01:30:58,747 --> 01:31:00,147
Speaker 27: on my side as well, just to make it more

1870
01:31:00,187 --> 01:31:02,307
Speaker 27: comfortable for me, and it's been there, it just hasn't shown,

1871
01:31:02,507 --> 01:31:05,627
Speaker 27: so it's nice to show it today, but obviously tomorrow's

1872
01:31:05,627 --> 01:31:06,267
Speaker 27: also the import.

1873
01:31:06,827 --> 01:31:09,467
Speaker 3: It's also the first time since Saudi Arabia in mid

1874
01:31:09,547 --> 01:31:12,947
Speaker 3: April that Liam Lawson has outqualified his racing balls teammatee

1875
01:31:12,987 --> 01:31:17,747
Speaker 3: Isaac Hadger, who could only manage thirteenth fastest McLaren's Lando

1876
01:31:17,747 --> 01:31:20,027
Speaker 3: and Iris on pole, ahead of Charla Clair and the Ferrari.

1877
01:31:20,107 --> 01:31:23,187
Speaker 3: The other McLaren of Oscar Piastre, Lewis Hamilton fourth and

1878
01:31:23,227 --> 01:31:26,667
Speaker 3: the second Ferrari. Then George Russell fifth for Mercedes and

1879
01:31:26,787 --> 01:31:30,547
Speaker 3: Liam Lawson sixth on the grid. Our Formula One expert

1880
01:31:31,107 --> 01:31:34,107
Speaker 3: is the New Zealand Herald's Alex Powell, who, after having

1881
01:31:34,187 --> 01:31:36,667
Speaker 3: a fact I'm going to get you to put him

1882
01:31:36,707 --> 01:31:38,587
Speaker 3: to air for me if you could. Mark, who's had

1883
01:31:38,787 --> 01:31:41,667
Speaker 3: a late night or a very early morning covering the race,

1884
01:31:42,307 --> 01:31:46,267
Speaker 3: but is able to chat to us now, Alex talk

1885
01:31:46,347 --> 01:31:48,627
Speaker 3: us through what Liam did really well in qualifying.

1886
01:31:49,667 --> 01:31:51,427
Speaker 29: I mean it's hard to say why he did well

1887
01:31:51,507 --> 01:31:53,587
Speaker 29: and nailed down to one per six thing. He definitely

1888
01:31:53,627 --> 01:31:55,467
Speaker 29: did some hot chips for the way he's driven sort

1889
01:31:55,467 --> 01:31:57,907
Speaker 29: of all week and it has been a very tight field.

1890
01:31:58,547 --> 01:32:00,547
Speaker 29: I guess what he did was he just didn't make

1891
01:32:00,547 --> 01:32:02,427
Speaker 29: any mistakes and he had everything go as way. Like

1892
01:32:02,547 --> 01:32:04,467
Speaker 29: I came on your show a couple of weeks ago

1893
01:32:04,467 --> 01:32:06,307
Speaker 29: before Canada and we spoke about how he just needs

1894
01:32:06,467 --> 01:32:09,027
Speaker 29: things to go his way and they just don't. And

1895
01:32:09,147 --> 01:32:11,347
Speaker 29: then the two times they haven't been Monaco in Austria

1896
01:32:11,387 --> 01:32:12,547
Speaker 29: where he's qualified in the top ten.

1897
01:32:12,867 --> 01:32:16,027
Speaker 3: Are you starting to see the benefit of time behind

1898
01:32:16,547 --> 01:32:18,387
Speaker 3: the Racing Bulls wheel for Liam?

1899
01:32:19,827 --> 01:32:22,387
Speaker 29: I think absolutely you are getting that. I don't think

1900
01:32:22,467 --> 01:32:25,347
Speaker 29: Liam Lawson has been as bad as what has been

1901
01:32:25,387 --> 01:32:27,667
Speaker 29: put out there, like we seem to have this almost

1902
01:32:27,747 --> 01:32:30,187
Speaker 29: vampiric need for him to these scoring points every weekend.

1903
01:32:30,267 --> 01:32:32,347
Speaker 29: But the issue has been that his teammate Isaac Hadjar

1904
01:32:32,547 --> 01:32:35,147
Speaker 29: has just been flying, you know. So you look at

1905
01:32:35,147 --> 01:32:37,587
Speaker 29: where they are in a Constructor's Championship and that Racing

1906
01:32:37,627 --> 01:32:40,667
Speaker 29: Bulls carp probably is about six best. So results of

1907
01:32:40,707 --> 01:32:42,987
Speaker 29: eleventh and twelfth are basically where they should be.

1908
01:32:43,987 --> 01:32:46,387
Speaker 3: It's wonderful use of the word vampiric. I don't think

1909
01:32:46,427 --> 01:32:49,227
Speaker 3: I've ever heard that on the radio before. So make

1910
01:32:49,307 --> 01:32:51,747
Speaker 3: a note of that word and use it often from

1911
01:32:51,787 --> 01:32:55,107
Speaker 3: here on in. So I guess now the challenge is

1912
01:32:55,187 --> 01:32:59,187
Speaker 3: to stay there when the race is underway tomorrow. Talk

1913
01:32:59,227 --> 01:33:01,547
Speaker 3: to us about this course, Alex, how challenging will it

1914
01:33:01,627 --> 01:33:05,387
Speaker 3: be for Liam to hold sixth spot, or how likely

1915
01:33:05,547 --> 01:33:07,187
Speaker 3: or not is it that he even move up from

1916
01:33:07,227 --> 01:33:07,707
Speaker 3: that position.

1917
01:33:08,747 --> 01:33:10,907
Speaker 29: It's going to be tricky. Like I said that the

1918
01:33:11,027 --> 01:33:13,707
Speaker 29: racing bulls car is not as fast as you know

1919
01:33:13,947 --> 01:33:15,987
Speaker 29: the other ones around him, especially when he's got Max

1920
01:33:16,067 --> 01:33:17,947
Speaker 29: with Stappin behind him in seventh. I mean, the Stapfen's

1921
01:33:17,947 --> 01:33:19,507
Speaker 29: goning to be like a volcano and to turn one,

1922
01:33:19,627 --> 01:33:22,587
Speaker 29: just exploding all over the place. I think the thing

1923
01:33:22,627 --> 01:33:24,227
Speaker 29: that really could go in and stay with though, is

1924
01:33:24,307 --> 01:33:26,827
Speaker 29: the track has been very hot, and like we saw

1925
01:33:26,907 --> 01:33:29,147
Speaker 29: in Canada, when it is that hot, you can't really

1926
01:33:29,387 --> 01:33:31,547
Speaker 29: be too aggressive on your tires. So like we saw,

1927
01:33:31,747 --> 01:33:33,387
Speaker 29: you know in Canada a couple weeks ago, when Lawson

1928
01:33:33,467 --> 01:33:36,427
Speaker 29: qualified downe in nineteenth, he was really stuck and having

1929
01:33:36,467 --> 01:33:38,627
Speaker 29: to try and push to get higher up while managing

1930
01:33:38,627 --> 01:33:40,347
Speaker 29: what he's gone underneath him. But now that he's in

1931
01:33:40,507 --> 01:33:43,347
Speaker 29: six he can sort of try and hold where he is,

1932
01:33:43,427 --> 01:33:45,747
Speaker 29: like if he if he's finished at sixth rather, that'll

1933
01:33:45,747 --> 01:33:48,027
Speaker 29: be brilliant. If he gets seventh that'll be great as well,

1934
01:33:48,107 --> 01:33:50,227
Speaker 29: given that the staff and probably will pass them quite

1935
01:33:50,267 --> 01:33:50,547
Speaker 29: early on.

1936
01:33:51,667 --> 01:33:54,547
Speaker 3: So what happened to Max for Stapan, that's low for

1937
01:33:54,667 --> 01:33:57,267
Speaker 3: him seventh. But I read your report this morning in

1938
01:33:57,307 --> 01:34:00,427
Speaker 3: the New Zealand Herald and you talked about a yellow

1939
01:34:00,587 --> 01:34:03,787
Speaker 3: flag on his final flying lap. Tell us about that.

1940
01:34:04,427 --> 01:34:07,747
Speaker 29: So basically, Pierre Gasley of Alpine lost control at the

1941
01:34:07,827 --> 01:34:09,947
Speaker 29: last turn, triggered a yellow flag and that means that

1942
01:34:09,947 --> 01:34:11,827
Speaker 29: the step and had to slow down right as he

1943
01:34:12,827 --> 01:34:15,627
Speaker 29: was coming around that sort of last sector, which meant

1944
01:34:15,667 --> 01:34:17,307
Speaker 29: that the the lap he was on which might have

1945
01:34:17,347 --> 01:34:19,307
Speaker 29: seen him and he probably would have seen him go ahead,

1946
01:34:19,987 --> 01:34:22,467
Speaker 29: was then void basically because he had to drop his

1947
01:34:22,587 --> 01:34:25,107
Speaker 29: pace and he couldn't get the final tenth of the

1948
01:34:25,107 --> 01:34:28,467
Speaker 29: second he needed to qualify, you know, maybe definitely probably

1949
01:34:28,467 --> 01:34:30,267
Speaker 29: in the top four because he you know, he had

1950
01:34:30,267 --> 01:34:32,347
Speaker 29: had polled the last five Austrian Grand Prix.

1951
01:34:33,547 --> 01:34:36,827
Speaker 3: Just back to Liam, I watched some of his postmatch

1952
01:34:36,867 --> 01:34:39,027
Speaker 3: interview and there just seemed to be a heck of

1953
01:34:39,107 --> 01:34:41,227
Speaker 3: a lot of relief there. You know, he said, it's

1954
01:34:41,267 --> 01:34:43,307
Speaker 3: been a tough year and you and I have talked

1955
01:34:43,347 --> 01:34:45,387
Speaker 3: about it a lot, a lot on and off the year.

1956
01:34:45,747 --> 01:34:48,747
Speaker 3: It has been a tough year. Is there any danger

1957
01:34:48,827 --> 01:34:50,907
Speaker 3: that now he's qualified sixth that he you know that

1958
01:34:51,667 --> 01:34:54,347
Speaker 3: he feels job done in Austria and that he might

1959
01:34:54,507 --> 01:34:58,627
Speaker 3: not perhaps achieve sixth tomorrow. If you get where I'm

1960
01:34:58,667 --> 01:34:59,827
Speaker 3: driving it, he.

1961
01:34:59,907 --> 01:35:02,147
Speaker 29: Won't think it's job done. He said afterwards that the

1962
01:35:02,227 --> 01:35:05,267
Speaker 29: important day is today. It depends what you want as success.

1963
01:35:05,387 --> 01:35:08,387
Speaker 29: I mean the points finished from here is an incredible results.

1964
01:35:08,467 --> 01:35:10,027
Speaker 29: You know, you look at where Hajjar is and he's

1965
01:35:10,067 --> 01:35:11,747
Speaker 29: meant to be the better of the two drivers of

1966
01:35:11,907 --> 01:35:14,387
Speaker 29: based off results, and he's done in thirteen. So if

1967
01:35:14,467 --> 01:35:17,147
Speaker 29: Liam can get in the points and they head of Hajar,

1968
01:35:17,227 --> 01:35:18,307
Speaker 29: I think that'll be perfect.

1969
01:35:19,107 --> 01:35:23,587
Speaker 3: Yuki Sonoda eighteenth the poison chealous of the second Red

1970
01:35:23,667 --> 01:35:25,667
Speaker 3: Bull driver. What's going on here?

1971
01:35:26,427 --> 01:35:26,587
Speaker 26: Ah?

1972
01:35:26,667 --> 01:35:29,147
Speaker 29: I mean it's the same issue that Liam Lawson had.

1973
01:35:29,147 --> 01:35:31,187
Speaker 29: It's the same issue that Sergio Perez had. It's the

1974
01:35:31,227 --> 01:35:33,307
Speaker 29: same issue that Alex Album had. It's the same issue

1975
01:35:33,347 --> 01:35:35,667
Speaker 29: that Pierre Guess we had. Lightning doesn't strike five times.

1976
01:35:36,347 --> 01:35:39,147
Speaker 29: Red Bull have just built that car for Maxistap and

1977
01:35:39,187 --> 01:35:41,267
Speaker 29: only and Maxi Stapan is just a freak. You know,

1978
01:35:41,387 --> 01:35:43,587
Speaker 29: he will do things. You know in any car, it's

1979
01:35:43,627 --> 01:35:45,747
Speaker 29: basically a tractor on. You know that they've got out

1980
01:35:45,747 --> 01:35:48,107
Speaker 29: there and you've just got a generational talent in one

1981
01:35:48,147 --> 01:35:49,907
Speaker 29: of them, but then the other car is struggling.

1982
01:35:50,427 --> 01:35:55,627
Speaker 3: So how then do they make progress in the Constructors Championship.

1983
01:35:56,227 --> 01:35:58,347
Speaker 29: Well they don't, and they've said as much. They don't

1984
01:35:58,387 --> 01:36:01,147
Speaker 29: really care. Once they've moved lim Lawson back to racing balls,

1985
01:36:01,187 --> 01:36:03,987
Speaker 29: they were adamant, no, we don't care about the Constructors Championship.

1986
01:36:04,227 --> 01:36:06,067
Speaker 29: We just want to see for step in winnifit straight

1987
01:36:06,147 --> 01:36:08,907
Speaker 29: drive title, you know, and that will have ramifications further

1988
01:36:08,947 --> 01:36:11,627
Speaker 29: down the track. But in the short term they I

1989
01:36:11,707 --> 01:36:14,427
Speaker 29: think they're prepared to just bang on the credibility of

1990
01:36:14,467 --> 01:36:15,707
Speaker 29: having another driver's title.

1991
01:36:15,867 --> 01:36:18,667
Speaker 3: But don't I remember reading or you might have even

1992
01:36:18,747 --> 01:36:23,307
Speaker 3: told me this that they were keen on the constructors Championship,

1993
01:36:23,427 --> 01:36:26,747
Speaker 3: But clearly the strategy doesn't suggest that they are.

1994
01:36:27,827 --> 01:36:27,867
Speaker 4: No.

1995
01:36:28,027 --> 01:36:30,507
Speaker 29: I mean, you need two cars scoring points in the

1996
01:36:30,507 --> 01:36:33,107
Speaker 29: Constructor and basically they've not had that all season. I

1997
01:36:33,147 --> 01:36:36,267
Speaker 29: think since Yuki's gone there, he scored points in one race,

1998
01:36:36,787 --> 01:36:38,907
Speaker 29: you know, So that tells you basically everything you need

1999
01:36:38,987 --> 01:36:41,827
Speaker 29: to know that that is not a championship winning car.

2000
01:36:42,587 --> 01:36:45,867
Speaker 3: Could anybody drive the second? What have you put Lando

2001
01:36:45,987 --> 01:36:49,627
Speaker 3: Norris in there, or Charlie Clair or Oscar Piastre. Would

2002
01:36:49,627 --> 01:36:52,667
Speaker 3: they have the same issues Pastree.

2003
01:36:52,747 --> 01:36:55,107
Speaker 29: I think might be a shout just because everything here

2004
01:36:55,107 --> 01:36:57,347
Speaker 29: about him is that he is so good at problem

2005
01:36:57,387 --> 01:37:00,107
Speaker 29: solving in real time. But I think any of those

2006
01:37:00,187 --> 01:37:02,387
Speaker 29: other nineteen drives on the grid are going to struggle

2007
01:37:02,427 --> 01:37:04,227
Speaker 29: if you just drop them in there right away. Let's

2008
01:37:04,267 --> 01:37:06,187
Speaker 29: not forget Maxis Stappens and not just turned up either.

2009
01:37:06,347 --> 01:37:08,427
Speaker 29: He's been that team for years and they've been able

2010
01:37:08,467 --> 01:37:10,387
Speaker 29: to tailor it to his wants and needs.

2011
01:37:11,387 --> 01:37:13,507
Speaker 3: Back to Liam then to finish. So what time we

2012
01:37:13,547 --> 01:37:15,307
Speaker 3: go tomorrow morning? Is about one o'clock New Zealand time?

2013
01:37:15,387 --> 01:37:17,267
Speaker 29: Is it one am? Everyone's getting up with me?

2014
01:37:17,747 --> 01:37:22,187
Speaker 3: Okay, well look I'll set the alarm and get up

2015
01:37:22,227 --> 01:37:24,867
Speaker 3: and have a look. What's your peg? What are you?

2016
01:37:25,467 --> 01:37:27,747
Speaker 3: I mean I o'hazan head and all that sort of thing.

2017
01:37:28,027 --> 01:37:30,627
Speaker 3: What's your head telling you about what's going to happen?

2018
01:37:31,987 --> 01:37:34,467
Speaker 29: I think he might lose a place or two off

2019
01:37:34,507 --> 01:37:37,027
Speaker 29: the start, but I think there's definitely enough, especially if

2020
01:37:37,107 --> 01:37:39,107
Speaker 29: Racing Bulls get the strategy right, like it has been

2021
01:37:39,147 --> 01:37:41,307
Speaker 29: a real area of contention this year with how they've

2022
01:37:41,387 --> 01:37:44,307
Speaker 29: worked with Liam, whereas Isaac Hadjar has had the better

2023
01:37:44,347 --> 01:37:46,507
Speaker 29: of it. Remember back to Saudi Arabia where leam Elk

2024
01:37:46,547 --> 01:37:49,307
Speaker 29: qualified Hadja. They put Hadjar on the better strategy and

2025
01:37:49,387 --> 01:37:51,907
Speaker 29: he ended up overtaking him on a different set of tires.

2026
01:37:52,387 --> 01:37:54,187
Speaker 29: So if they can do that, I think points is

2027
01:37:54,267 --> 01:37:57,027
Speaker 29: definitely achievable. But like as we know, we're motors for

2028
01:37:57,147 --> 01:37:58,267
Speaker 29: anything can and will happen.

2029
01:37:58,867 --> 01:38:01,587
Speaker 3: Thank you for your vampiric analysis, Alex.

2030
01:38:02,227 --> 01:38:04,227
Speaker 13: Anytime mate got on Alex Pale.

2031
01:38:04,627 --> 01:38:07,267
Speaker 3: You can read him at nz herel dot com dot ends.

2032
01:38:07,307 --> 01:38:11,587
Speaker 3: It is our motorsport expert and yeah, a regular contributor

2033
01:38:11,667 --> 01:38:14,347
Speaker 3: to Weekend Sport. Here's Liam Lawson after qualifying.

2034
01:38:14,947 --> 01:38:18,467
Speaker 27: It's been a strong day and something that feels very good. Honestly,

2035
01:38:18,507 --> 01:38:22,667
Speaker 27: it's been a very very tough year. And you know,

2036
01:38:22,747 --> 01:38:25,307
Speaker 27: as we're saying like that, the car has been very

2037
01:38:25,387 --> 01:38:28,627
Speaker 27: fast and we've been fast through most practice sessions recently

2038
01:38:28,707 --> 01:38:32,907
Speaker 27: and had really good potential for qualifying and then it's

2039
01:38:33,267 --> 01:38:35,827
Speaker 27: for whatever reason doesn't come through. Sometimes it's super small

2040
01:38:35,867 --> 01:38:37,787
Speaker 27: things at the moment, getting the tire in the right

2041
01:38:37,827 --> 01:38:42,307
Speaker 27: window or just putting together a lap, and yeah, it's

2042
01:38:42,307 --> 01:38:44,987
Speaker 27: been pretty tough, so to get this done today is

2043
01:38:45,987 --> 01:38:46,547
Speaker 27: is a good feeling.

2044
01:38:46,827 --> 01:38:49,067
Speaker 16: Yeah, it says an awful lot about your character. You've

2045
01:38:49,107 --> 01:38:50,867
Speaker 16: had to have the tin hats on the times during

2046
01:38:50,947 --> 01:38:54,227
Speaker 16: this year, so you could go away and proved one

2047
01:38:54,347 --> 01:38:56,187
Speaker 16: or two points, not just not just a single one.

2048
01:38:56,227 --> 01:39:00,067
Speaker 16: I think, No, I mean and and tomorrow converting it?

2049
01:39:00,347 --> 01:39:00,587
Speaker 9: What what?

2050
01:39:00,787 --> 01:39:00,827
Speaker 4: What?

2051
01:39:01,387 --> 01:39:03,947
Speaker 16: What's it going to take to try and stay there?

2052
01:39:03,987 --> 01:39:05,547
Speaker 16: Are there the bucks where you start?

2053
01:39:05,627 --> 01:39:08,267
Speaker 27: I think the strategy is it's not that clear, to

2054
01:39:08,347 --> 01:39:11,147
Speaker 27: be honest, and I think you know, our long run

2055
01:39:11,187 --> 01:39:14,227
Speaker 27: pace was good, but it's about making the right decisions

2056
01:39:14,227 --> 01:39:16,227
Speaker 27: tomorrow obviously for me, getting a good start doing the

2057
01:39:16,307 --> 01:39:20,387
Speaker 27: right things behind the wheel. And I think there's a

2058
01:39:20,387 --> 01:39:22,347
Speaker 27: couple of guys obviously around us that we're probably not fighting,

2059
01:39:22,387 --> 01:39:23,907
Speaker 27: but some of the guys behind we're going to try

2060
01:39:23,907 --> 01:39:24,547
Speaker 27: and keep her.

2061
01:39:25,067 --> 01:39:26,827
Speaker 3: Good on him, mate, I just think good on him.

2062
01:39:26,947 --> 01:39:29,787
Speaker 3: He's had such a tough year and some of his

2063
01:39:30,067 --> 01:39:33,347
Speaker 3: post qualifying, post practice, post race and the views have

2064
01:39:33,467 --> 01:39:36,787
Speaker 3: been filled with obvious frustrations. So for him to have

2065
01:39:37,067 --> 01:39:40,547
Speaker 3: a mixture of obviously delight but also just a little

2066
01:39:40,587 --> 01:39:43,427
Speaker 3: bit of relief that you know that things went his

2067
01:39:43,587 --> 01:39:46,227
Speaker 3: way for once this year was cool to see. So

2068
01:39:46,787 --> 01:39:49,027
Speaker 3: one o'clock tomorrow morning, New Zealand Time, as Alex Palell

2069
01:39:49,067 --> 01:39:52,547
Speaker 3: said is when the race starts. Let's hope that he

2070
01:39:52,627 --> 01:39:57,667
Speaker 3: can well stay sixed, even move a little bit further up.

2071
01:39:58,627 --> 01:40:00,707
Speaker 3: Simon says on text Leam just has to let Max

2072
01:40:00,747 --> 01:40:03,987
Speaker 3: go at turn one and then slam the jandle down

2073
01:40:04,027 --> 01:40:06,267
Speaker 3: on the pedal, keep it clean and get some points easy.

2074
01:40:06,747 --> 01:40:09,347
Speaker 3: I'll be watching. Let's go, Liam says Simon. Good on you, Simon,

2075
01:40:09,507 --> 01:40:11,827
Speaker 3: You've almost got me sitting in alarm. I probably should

2076
01:40:11,867 --> 01:40:14,347
Speaker 3: get up and have a look, shouldn't I two twenty four.

2077
01:40:14,427 --> 01:40:16,667
Speaker 3: Let's take a break when we come back, he's here

2078
01:40:16,907 --> 01:40:18,747
Speaker 3: in person in the fleece James mcconey.

2079
01:40:18,867 --> 01:40:22,227
Speaker 1: Right after this, You love Voice of Sport on your

2080
01:40:22,347 --> 01:40:26,107
Speaker 1: Home of Sport Weekend Sport with Jason Hye and GJ.

2081
01:40:26,307 --> 01:40:29,547
Speaker 1: Gunnos New Zealand's most trusted oh Builder News.

2082
01:40:29,427 --> 01:40:32,467
Speaker 3: Talks, HEV News Talks two twenty seven. Part of our

2083
01:40:32,467 --> 01:40:34,347
Speaker 3: Sundays is James McConney. I like the way you came

2084
01:40:34,387 --> 01:40:36,787
Speaker 3: into the studio at one forty for your regular slot

2085
01:40:37,107 --> 01:40:39,427
Speaker 3: and saw Razor and tried to kick him out.

2086
01:40:39,587 --> 01:40:41,827
Speaker 28: I did. I was saying, this is my time, raiser,

2087
01:40:41,987 --> 01:40:44,907
Speaker 28: You've got all season to impress everybody. Get out, and

2088
01:40:45,027 --> 01:40:47,027
Speaker 28: then it was a bit of a tussle, I guess,

2089
01:40:47,067 --> 01:40:50,147
Speaker 28: a bit of a wrestle. All the moves felt legal

2090
01:40:50,387 --> 01:40:53,947
Speaker 28: until I started gouging in a certain places and then yeah,

2091
01:40:53,987 --> 01:40:55,947
Speaker 28: it ended with a hopawadi. But the thing is, like

2092
01:40:56,147 --> 01:40:58,827
Speaker 28: I was happy to hear what he had to say,

2093
01:40:58,827 --> 01:41:01,507
Speaker 28: and I actually really liked what He's really good with

2094
01:41:01,587 --> 01:41:05,107
Speaker 28: the people. I think he's got a job Piney when

2095
01:41:05,147 --> 01:41:07,387
Speaker 28: he retires from coaching. He could do this, couldn't he

2096
01:41:07,507 --> 01:41:08,427
Speaker 28: Absolutely he could.

2097
01:41:08,547 --> 01:41:11,987
Speaker 3: And I mean, you know there's people you get in

2098
01:41:12,107 --> 01:41:14,307
Speaker 3: here and we say, hey, we're going to take some calls,

2099
01:41:14,707 --> 01:41:17,307
Speaker 3: and two things happen. One that's on I'd rather not

2100
01:41:17,987 --> 01:41:19,867
Speaker 3: just you and I just chat. Or we say we're

2101
01:41:19,867 --> 01:41:22,067
Speaker 3: going to take some calls and nobody calls four border

2102
01:41:22,107 --> 01:41:24,267
Speaker 3: calls the whole time. And look, he's the All Blacks coach,

2103
01:41:24,307 --> 01:41:26,147
Speaker 3: of course he is. But he has got an ability

2104
01:41:26,227 --> 01:41:27,347
Speaker 3: to connect with people, right.

2105
01:41:27,427 --> 01:41:28,067
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly.

2106
01:41:28,187 --> 01:41:30,667
Speaker 28: And I mean I think Raiser is actually playing chess

2107
01:41:30,707 --> 01:41:32,827
Speaker 28: and other people are playing checkers at the moment, because

2108
01:41:33,347 --> 01:41:35,467
Speaker 28: I know that there are a lot of Crusaders fans,

2109
01:41:35,547 --> 01:41:40,147
Speaker 28: Canary fans phoning up and kind of in a way saying,

2110
01:41:40,227 --> 01:41:42,507
Speaker 28: you know, there's too many Chiefs, not enough Ethans.

2111
01:41:42,627 --> 01:41:45,907
Speaker 3: And but Ethan will come back.

2112
01:41:45,987 --> 01:41:48,147
Speaker 28: I think Ethan Blackhader, even though he's got a medical

2113
01:41:48,187 --> 01:41:50,427
Speaker 28: condition at the moment, Like if he didn't have that

2114
01:41:50,707 --> 01:41:52,547
Speaker 28: and the All Blacks were playing South Africa in a

2115
01:41:52,587 --> 01:41:56,067
Speaker 28: big knockout game, I think Ethan Blackheader would have been selected.

2116
01:41:56,347 --> 01:42:00,027
Speaker 28: So we have to look at the squad as slightly experimental.

2117
01:41:59,427 --> 01:42:01,947
Speaker 3: Yep, And look much as I'll say, they'll play what's

2118
01:42:01,947 --> 01:42:03,827
Speaker 3: in front of them. Every player and that squad's go

2119
01:42:03,907 --> 01:42:05,747
Speaker 3: to play against France, aren't they. This isn't a situation

2120
01:42:05,907 --> 01:42:08,947
Speaker 3: where they need to lock the series up and play.

2121
01:42:09,187 --> 01:42:12,267
Speaker 3: You know, only twenty eight of these thirty three. Everybody's

2122
01:42:12,267 --> 01:42:13,627
Speaker 3: getting a game right, so we're going to see six

2123
01:42:13,707 --> 01:42:15,107
Speaker 3: dabots basically pretty much.

2124
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Speaker 28: And the other thing that what Rais has done, and

2125
01:42:16,787 --> 01:42:18,867
Speaker 28: it's only taken a year to sort of work this out,

2126
01:42:19,307 --> 01:42:21,587
Speaker 28: is that you actually need to focus on turnovers. It's

2127
01:42:21,667 --> 01:42:24,667
Speaker 28: such a big part of knockout rugby, big games, turnovers

2128
01:42:24,667 --> 01:42:27,747
Speaker 28: are crucial. And you look at South Africa. Everyone out

2129
01:42:27,787 --> 01:42:29,747
Speaker 28: there right now in their car at home is thinking

2130
01:42:30,027 --> 01:42:33,427
Speaker 28: Malcolm Marx Quackersmith. We know how dangerous they are, so

2131
01:42:33,547 --> 01:42:35,667
Speaker 28: we watch them do that to us every single time,

2132
01:42:35,747 --> 01:42:38,467
Speaker 28: and we've got nothing in retaliation to that. So what

2133
01:42:38,627 --> 01:42:41,107
Speaker 28: Rais has done and by getting Tabatava Nai who on

2134
01:42:41,147 --> 01:42:45,307
Speaker 28: the acc we called Tabatava turnover and you've got duplessy Kidifi.

2135
01:42:45,387 --> 01:42:48,307
Speaker 28: They are the best statistically by Miles and I reckon

2136
01:42:48,347 --> 01:42:51,227
Speaker 28: it's taken all Blex coaches way too long to recognize this.

2137
01:42:51,667 --> 01:42:54,667
Speaker 28: Hanson was lucky because you had McCaw who was the

2138
01:42:54,747 --> 01:42:56,907
Speaker 28: best at it, but also your best player. So it's

2139
01:42:56,987 --> 01:42:58,787
Speaker 28: a cheat code. You've got all all in one, a

2140
01:42:58,827 --> 01:43:01,587
Speaker 28: one stop shop. Once you lose mccor where is it

2141
01:43:01,627 --> 01:43:03,947
Speaker 28: all coming from? I know sam Kin was a really

2142
01:43:03,947 --> 01:43:07,307
Speaker 28: good player, but I'm talking about off the bench pact turnovers.

2143
01:43:07,627 --> 01:43:10,907
Speaker 28: They Hanson and Foster just ignored it. And I reckon

2144
01:43:10,987 --> 01:43:13,707
Speaker 28: it's a massive part because we go to every World Cup.

2145
01:43:13,707 --> 01:43:15,867
Speaker 3: And we go, oh no, they turned over the ball

2146
01:43:15,867 --> 01:43:16,707
Speaker 3: at crucial time.

2147
01:43:17,027 --> 01:43:19,227
Speaker 28: How did that happen? Well, it is because the other

2148
01:43:19,307 --> 01:43:21,867
Speaker 28: team think about it. All our opponents that are thinking

2149
01:43:21,867 --> 01:43:22,787
Speaker 28: about that day and night.

2150
01:43:22,987 --> 01:43:24,507
Speaker 3: So do you reckon? We can set our watch to

2151
01:43:24,587 --> 01:43:27,467
Speaker 3: around that sixty minute mark in a couple of these

2152
01:43:27,507 --> 01:43:30,787
Speaker 3: test matches, look over and see Tava Tava Nahai and Khalife.

2153
01:43:30,787 --> 01:43:32,387
Speaker 3: Are you ready to come on and do exactly that?

2154
01:43:32,667 --> 01:43:33,187
Speaker 4: Exactly that?

2155
01:43:33,347 --> 01:43:35,987
Speaker 28: And I mean, look Quackersmith, if he played in Super Rugby,

2156
01:43:36,067 --> 01:43:39,467
Speaker 28: he might not start either, but Russi, Russmus would still

2157
01:43:39,507 --> 01:43:42,147
Speaker 28: pick him. You know, that's the fact he's not getting

2158
01:43:42,147 --> 01:43:45,307
Speaker 28: in ahead of Dalton, Papaa, Luke Jacobson, you know at all.

2159
01:43:45,467 --> 01:43:47,627
Speaker 28: Even Tom Kristy would probably get picked ahead of Quaker.

2160
01:43:47,867 --> 01:43:49,667
Speaker 28: But he is coming on to make an impact and

2161
01:43:49,747 --> 01:43:52,187
Speaker 28: that is what rugby has become. New Zealand coaches have

2162
01:43:52,267 --> 01:43:55,507
Speaker 28: taken way too long to recognize that. But interestingly Razers

2163
01:43:55,547 --> 01:43:58,907
Speaker 28: started talking about wingers with absolute pace who aren't the

2164
01:43:58,907 --> 01:44:01,427
Speaker 28: biggest athletes, and I think that's the other area where

2165
01:44:01,427 --> 01:44:03,347
Speaker 28: we need to have a massive sea change in New

2166
01:44:03,427 --> 01:44:07,587
Speaker 28: Zealand rugby around the world. Louis Bill the Frenchman, he's

2167
01:44:07,707 --> 01:44:12,347
Speaker 28: absolutely lightning, you know, cheers and Colby has been man

2168
01:44:12,427 --> 01:44:14,027
Speaker 28: in the match in a World Cup and he's still

2169
01:44:14,347 --> 01:44:16,787
Speaker 28: men in the match last night against the Barbarians. And

2170
01:44:16,867 --> 01:44:19,667
Speaker 28: then you've got mack Hanson. He is so skinny, that guy.

2171
01:44:20,067 --> 01:44:22,907
Speaker 28: He's into cliff top diving as well. Mack Hanson, the

2172
01:44:22,987 --> 01:44:25,627
Speaker 28: Irish and Lions winger and you can see why he's

2173
01:44:25,667 --> 01:44:26,587
Speaker 28: built like a javelin.

2174
01:44:26,747 --> 01:44:30,747
Speaker 3: He is just on the back three. And you might

2175
01:44:30,787 --> 01:44:32,347
Speaker 3: have heard raisers say they want to be four deep

2176
01:44:32,387 --> 01:44:33,027
Speaker 3: in every position.

2177
01:44:33,307 --> 01:44:33,827
Speaker 4: I don't reckon.

2178
01:44:33,907 --> 01:44:34,947
Speaker 3: We're four deep on the wings.

2179
01:44:34,987 --> 01:44:37,147
Speaker 28: Do you know that's the big area? And I think

2180
01:44:37,427 --> 01:44:40,187
Speaker 28: you could tell somebody was probing him, someone from Hawks Bay.

2181
01:44:40,227 --> 01:44:40,827
Speaker 7: Did they probe them?

2182
01:44:40,907 --> 01:44:42,907
Speaker 28: Yeah, I've been proved by some of them from Hawk's Bay.

2183
01:44:42,947 --> 01:44:46,227
Speaker 28: But the thing is it actually does He did reveal

2184
01:44:46,267 --> 01:44:49,187
Speaker 28: that Leroy Carter was in the mix, but I think

2185
01:44:49,267 --> 01:44:51,387
Speaker 28: Caleb tangy Tail was the one that he really had

2186
01:44:51,787 --> 01:44:53,587
Speaker 28: a good look at. Yep, and he got injured. And

2187
01:44:53,747 --> 01:44:55,587
Speaker 28: I reckon, if he played the whole season and played

2188
01:44:55,627 --> 01:44:57,587
Speaker 28: the same way, he'll be the one coming in.

2189
01:44:57,747 --> 01:44:59,267
Speaker 7: But a leak pace.

2190
01:44:59,467 --> 01:45:02,947
Speaker 28: You look around the place. We don't have a blbre No,

2191
01:45:03,227 --> 01:45:04,267
Speaker 28: you're right, Actually.

2192
01:45:04,027 --> 01:45:04,547
Speaker 3: We don't do it.

2193
01:45:04,627 --> 01:45:06,267
Speaker 7: No, we don't or a Chislan.

2194
01:45:06,827 --> 01:45:06,867
Speaker 4: No.

2195
01:45:07,107 --> 01:45:09,907
Speaker 3: I'd listen to a podcast with Nick Gill, the the

2196
01:45:10,067 --> 01:45:12,547
Speaker 3: All Black strength and conditioning coach during the week, and

2197
01:45:12,627 --> 01:45:14,627
Speaker 3: he said the fastest guy on the team's Rico Yuani.

2198
01:45:15,387 --> 01:45:18,787
Speaker 28: Yes, Well, that's the thing. Rico has still got elite wheels.

2199
01:45:18,827 --> 01:45:20,947
Speaker 28: But do you know what also happens, And everybody who

2200
01:45:20,947 --> 01:45:23,587
Speaker 28: follows first fifteen rugby will at a high level will

2201
01:45:23,627 --> 01:45:25,627
Speaker 28: know this is that the NRL scouts are here and

2202
01:45:25,707 --> 01:45:28,587
Speaker 28: they're taking out our quick guys. You know County Kenny whoever,

2203
01:45:29,467 --> 01:45:31,627
Speaker 28: he's on the Gold Coast now. So that is the

2204
01:45:31,707 --> 01:45:35,067
Speaker 28: other problem is that those little quick guys League are

2205
01:45:35,107 --> 01:45:37,307
Speaker 28: not afraid of them, because I've always had those guys

2206
01:45:37,347 --> 01:45:40,027
Speaker 28: in their team and now with Rugby starting to say

2207
01:45:40,027 --> 01:45:42,787
Speaker 28: actually we need that because, like Razor says, if you've

2208
01:45:42,787 --> 01:45:45,187
Speaker 28: got that extra bit of pace, it just creates opportunities.

2209
01:45:45,507 --> 01:45:47,667
Speaker 3: Now the British and Irish lines have arrived in Australia.

2210
01:45:47,867 --> 01:45:49,507
Speaker 3: They played the Western Force last night. Did you have

2211
01:45:49,507 --> 01:45:49,907
Speaker 3: a look at this?

2212
01:45:50,307 --> 01:45:50,627
Speaker 4: I did.

2213
01:45:50,987 --> 01:45:52,707
Speaker 28: I did look at the Lions and I love watching

2214
01:45:52,747 --> 01:45:55,667
Speaker 28: the lines and they almost like a bit like the

2215
01:45:55,787 --> 01:45:57,707
Speaker 28: Maori All Blacks. They kind of do like to chuck

2216
01:45:57,747 --> 01:46:00,987
Speaker 28: it around a bit. And so even in their first game,

2217
01:46:01,747 --> 01:46:04,747
Speaker 28: second game really, but their first game in Australia, they

2218
01:46:04,907 --> 01:46:08,627
Speaker 28: just they were expect They're exciting to watch. I felt

2219
01:46:08,667 --> 01:46:11,907
Speaker 28: sorry for the half back Thomas Williams pulled a hammy

2220
01:46:12,227 --> 01:46:14,747
Speaker 28: doing an incredible die for a try, so you don't

2221
01:46:14,747 --> 01:46:16,867
Speaker 28: want to do that early in the tour. But one

2222
01:46:16,947 --> 01:46:20,387
Speaker 28: thing I did notice is that Henry Pollock is absolute

2223
01:46:20,427 --> 01:46:22,307
Speaker 28: box office, the twenty year old from Northampton.

2224
01:46:22,347 --> 01:46:23,027
Speaker 7: He's a loose forward.

2225
01:46:23,067 --> 01:46:25,027
Speaker 28: If you haven't watched him play, you need to watch

2226
01:46:25,147 --> 01:46:28,547
Speaker 28: him because he is just He's so exciting that when

2227
01:46:28,587 --> 01:46:31,867
Speaker 28: you think could the game change and bring someone like

2228
01:46:31,947 --> 01:46:34,347
Speaker 28: that that into the mix. And I think when the

2229
01:46:34,427 --> 01:46:36,107
Speaker 28: Test team is named, he'll be in the twenty three,

2230
01:46:36,147 --> 01:46:37,027
Speaker 28: but maybe on the bench.

2231
01:46:37,267 --> 01:46:37,347
Speaker 19: Ye.

2232
01:46:37,947 --> 01:46:40,707
Speaker 3: Other sporting matters from yesterday, the Warriors for the first

2233
01:46:40,827 --> 01:46:43,387
Speaker 3: time this year didn't back up a loss with a win,

2234
01:46:43,587 --> 01:46:46,507
Speaker 3: So back to back losses Panthers Broncos, two good teams.

2235
01:46:47,387 --> 01:46:49,467
Speaker 3: Luke Metcalfe, man, if he's out for the season, what

2236
01:46:50,827 --> 01:46:53,387
Speaker 3: does that do to the Warriors' chances, Well.

2237
01:46:53,627 --> 01:46:56,947
Speaker 28: It hurts them, but Tanner Boyd we're lucky. So he

2238
01:46:57,067 --> 01:46:58,907
Speaker 28: was the Gold Coast half back last year. He's been

2239
01:46:58,947 --> 01:47:01,707
Speaker 28: signed and he's ready, he's wearing to go. He's been

2240
01:47:01,747 --> 01:47:04,227
Speaker 28: playing really well at New South Wales Cup level and

2241
01:47:05,107 --> 01:47:07,187
Speaker 28: or en Cup as they call it, and so he's

2242
01:47:08,427 --> 01:47:10,867
Speaker 28: he's up to the task. But what you lose with

2243
01:47:11,947 --> 01:47:14,067
Speaker 28: Luke metcalf is. He is actually probably one of the

2244
01:47:14,107 --> 01:47:16,067
Speaker 28: top line breakers in the Warriors and in the in

2245
01:47:16,147 --> 01:47:18,907
Speaker 28: the competition and even last night because he saw his

2246
01:47:19,027 --> 01:47:21,907
Speaker 28: knee was a little bit strapped too. He I think

2247
01:47:21,987 --> 01:47:24,627
Speaker 28: line breaks was one of the stats where the Broncos

2248
01:47:24,667 --> 01:47:27,507
Speaker 28: absolutely killed us. The other one was stupid penalties from

2249
01:47:27,547 --> 01:47:29,587
Speaker 28: the referees. But we're not allowed to say that because

2250
01:47:29,627 --> 01:47:32,667
Speaker 28: as soon as you question their integrity, you get old

2251
01:47:32,667 --> 01:47:33,707
Speaker 28: Bill Harrigan on the line.

2252
01:47:34,027 --> 01:47:34,507
Speaker 7: But there was some.

2253
01:47:34,667 --> 01:47:35,347
Speaker 4: There was a shocker.

2254
01:47:35,387 --> 01:47:38,107
Speaker 28: There was it with Wade Egan when he he did

2255
01:47:38,187 --> 01:47:39,987
Speaker 28: try to milk it but he was getting pushed as

2256
01:47:40,027 --> 01:47:41,267
Speaker 28: he was playing the ball, and that's it.

2257
01:47:41,307 --> 01:47:42,267
Speaker 7: That's a penalty all day.

2258
01:47:42,347 --> 01:47:45,067
Speaker 3: The other one was when was it Adam Reynolds was

2259
01:47:45,427 --> 01:47:47,947
Speaker 3: or Reece Waltz was chasing after a kick he was

2260
01:47:47,987 --> 01:47:52,227
Speaker 3: off side, Yeah, got taken out, but they got the penalty.

2261
01:47:52,587 --> 01:47:55,707
Speaker 28: But he's offside, Yeah, so what's he doing going downtown? Well,

2262
01:47:55,707 --> 01:47:57,667
Speaker 28: I mean that's the thing they allow, and it's a

2263
01:47:57,707 --> 01:48:01,027
Speaker 28: different rule. But in rugby, you were you're not allowed

2264
01:48:01,067 --> 01:48:03,507
Speaker 28: to advance at all, and so that's that. There are

2265
01:48:03,507 --> 01:48:05,147
Speaker 28: a few anomalies that pop up, but I think the

2266
01:48:05,227 --> 01:48:08,947
Speaker 28: Warriors again, it's really sad Arli lad Tower is out

2267
01:48:08,987 --> 01:48:12,547
Speaker 28: with an ankle surgery for five or six weeks, so

2268
01:48:12,667 --> 01:48:16,587
Speaker 28: we're missing strike power. But even just looking at Roger

2269
01:48:16,627 --> 01:48:18,427
Speaker 28: two of us to go back to fullback, it's kind

2270
01:48:18,467 --> 01:48:20,987
Speaker 28: of like every cloud there's a silver lining because if

2271
01:48:21,027 --> 01:48:22,907
Speaker 28: he goes to fullback, he'll touch the ball bit more.

2272
01:48:23,307 --> 01:48:26,107
Speaker 3: And actually they're just on knees. When chance nikol Kluksta

2273
01:48:26,147 --> 01:48:28,347
Speaker 3: went off when when he got landed, man, that did

2274
01:48:28,467 --> 01:48:30,507
Speaker 3: not look good. No, that did not look good at all.

2275
01:48:30,747 --> 01:48:34,027
Speaker 3: Hey under nineteen tall blacks. I enjoyed this. I watched

2276
01:48:34,067 --> 01:48:36,667
Speaker 3: this on YouTube last night. They beat Argentina in the

2277
01:48:36,707 --> 01:48:37,707
Speaker 3: first game at the World Cup.

2278
01:48:37,907 --> 01:48:40,027
Speaker 28: They did, and this is massive. Like you think about

2279
01:48:40,107 --> 01:48:43,467
Speaker 28: Argentinian teams and they've always been good. And obviously we

2280
01:48:43,587 --> 01:48:46,587
Speaker 28: know about Managenoble and the legacy in the NBA. But

2281
01:48:46,867 --> 01:48:49,027
Speaker 28: there's two players to I guess have a lookout for.

2282
01:48:49,107 --> 01:48:51,387
Speaker 28: One is because he's a son of a legend, Hayden Jones,

2283
01:48:51,467 --> 01:48:54,347
Speaker 28: son of Phil Jones, and he was in there crashing

2284
01:48:54,427 --> 01:48:57,827
Speaker 28: the glass just like is not really a Phil Jones player.

2285
01:48:57,907 --> 01:49:00,027
Speaker 28: He's driving to the hoop and just you know, he's

2286
01:49:00,067 --> 01:49:02,387
Speaker 28: way more aggressive than his dad. He just just add

2287
01:49:02,387 --> 01:49:05,987
Speaker 28: on three point lines. Where's Phil I had to find them?

2288
01:49:06,387 --> 01:49:09,107
Speaker 28: I mean Jackson Ball. He's been making headlines if you're

2289
01:49:09,147 --> 01:49:11,507
Speaker 28: into the NBL. He's been playing in Hawk's Bay, scoring

2290
01:49:11,587 --> 01:49:14,107
Speaker 28: forty point games and all this kind of crazy stuff.

2291
01:49:14,147 --> 01:49:17,707
Speaker 28: But he's going to Wisconsin possibly, and Wisconsin, even though

2292
01:49:17,747 --> 01:49:20,627
Speaker 28: it's famous for that seventies show, also famous for very

2293
01:49:20,627 --> 01:49:22,987
Speaker 28: good basketball, is in a very good basketball program. So

2294
01:49:23,587 --> 01:49:25,867
Speaker 28: I think if he goes there it's because he will

2295
01:49:25,907 --> 01:49:28,707
Speaker 28: get minutes and both of those guys could make the NBA.

2296
01:49:28,947 --> 01:49:31,787
Speaker 3: I think he's still year twelve Jackson Ball. Yeah, he's

2297
01:49:31,787 --> 01:49:33,107
Speaker 3: not even a seventh former.

2298
01:49:32,947 --> 01:49:33,627
Speaker 7: Yet, it's right.

2299
01:49:33,707 --> 01:49:36,587
Speaker 28: So in the New Zealand NBL, which has imports from

2300
01:49:36,627 --> 01:49:39,147
Speaker 28: America and people from Australia and all sorts in there,

2301
01:49:39,547 --> 01:49:40,507
Speaker 28: he is dominating.

2302
01:49:41,067 --> 01:49:42,627
Speaker 7: That's how good he is. Yeah, so good.

2303
01:49:42,867 --> 01:49:45,427
Speaker 3: Hey, just to finish Auckland City FC at home a

2304
01:49:45,507 --> 01:49:47,787
Speaker 3: one old draw with Boca Juniors, had Gordon Watson, their

2305
01:49:47,827 --> 01:49:50,947
Speaker 3: general manager, on the show yesterday. Yeah, pretty significant given

2306
01:49:50,987 --> 01:49:52,547
Speaker 3: the results in the first couple of games.

2307
01:49:52,667 --> 01:49:52,907
Speaker 4: It is.

2308
01:49:53,347 --> 01:49:55,827
Speaker 28: It's a huge comeback and turn around. Christian Gray, what

2309
01:49:55,947 --> 01:49:58,507
Speaker 28: a name. Fifty shades of Navy is it they play

2310
01:49:58,547 --> 01:50:02,067
Speaker 28: in but they he scored a really good goal and

2311
01:50:02,227 --> 01:50:05,827
Speaker 28: Boka can't complain. But what's happened is that their main rivals,

2312
01:50:05,867 --> 01:50:08,867
Speaker 28: Boka j is obviously a massive name in football, but

2313
01:50:08,987 --> 01:50:12,387
Speaker 28: their main rival is River Plate, equally big name. They

2314
01:50:12,507 --> 01:50:16,947
Speaker 28: are so excited about Auckland City they're singing, They're singing chants.

2315
01:50:17,027 --> 01:50:20,107
Speaker 28: The composing chants are online. I don't really speak Spanish,

2316
01:50:20,147 --> 01:50:23,787
Speaker 28: but that they're singing Auckland City chants in Buenos Aires

2317
01:50:23,827 --> 01:50:28,187
Speaker 28: in Argentina to celebrate what they've done to Bocca juniors

2318
01:50:28,187 --> 01:50:29,947
Speaker 28: by knocking them out. And so if you can get

2319
01:50:29,987 --> 01:50:33,987
Speaker 28: some merchandise or some Auckland City flags to Argentina, you'll

2320
01:50:34,027 --> 01:50:34,547
Speaker 28: make a killing.

2321
01:50:34,747 --> 01:50:38,067
Speaker 3: Absolutely right wonderful to have you mate. Are you to

2322
01:50:38,147 --> 01:50:41,347
Speaker 3: revert back to the original that your original normal time

2323
01:50:41,387 --> 01:50:43,387
Speaker 3: slot next week or do you do you prefer this?

2324
01:50:43,787 --> 01:50:46,787
Speaker 28: Well, I mean, I mean being bumped by Rayser. It's

2325
01:50:46,827 --> 01:50:49,107
Speaker 28: not the worst thing that's happened to me, but obviously

2326
01:50:49,267 --> 01:50:50,827
Speaker 28: I did feel like a bit of an our for play,

2327
01:50:50,867 --> 01:50:53,067
Speaker 28: and I'm sorry for the tussle and I'll tidy up.

2328
01:50:54,067 --> 01:50:57,187
Speaker 28: There's a few mics knocked around, but it was just playful, Okay,

2329
01:50:57,307 --> 01:50:59,587
Speaker 28: that's what happened. It was like more Greco Roman than anything.

2330
01:50:59,667 --> 01:50:59,947
Speaker 4: It was.

2331
01:51:00,107 --> 01:51:02,867
Speaker 3: It was it never really seemed to sort of degenerate

2332
01:51:02,947 --> 01:51:04,787
Speaker 3: into it anything more serious than that. We'll get your

2333
01:51:04,787 --> 01:51:06,587
Speaker 3: back at one forty next Sunday. Make great to see you.

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Speaker 28: Cheers, Thanks Boney.

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01:51:07,667 --> 01:51:10,467
Speaker 3: James mcconey part of our Sundays normally one forty today

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01:51:10,507 --> 01:51:13,027
Speaker 3: two forty because of rays and I think that's probably

2337
01:51:13,067 --> 01:51:14,907
Speaker 3: the only reason that we would bump the great man.

2338
01:51:14,947 --> 01:51:17,387
Speaker 3: We'll see you next week just on twenty two away

2339
01:51:17,427 --> 01:51:19,747
Speaker 3: from three. Don't forget to text the word win to

2340
01:51:19,947 --> 01:51:22,827
Speaker 3: nine two nine two and your name, so win, leave

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01:51:22,907 --> 01:51:25,067
Speaker 3: space your name, send it to nine two nine two

2342
01:51:25,067 --> 01:51:28,427
Speaker 3: before three o'clock three double passes to the Phoenix Wreckxham

2343
01:51:28,467 --> 01:51:31,827
Speaker 3: game July nineteen at Sky Stadium to give away before

2344
01:51:32,107 --> 01:51:33,867
Speaker 3: we're off the show on and hit at three next though,

2345
01:51:34,027 --> 01:51:39,187
Speaker 3: we're in Vegas for UFC three one seven The Big Issues.

2346
01:51:39,027 --> 01:51:42,027
Speaker 1: On and after Field Call Oh eight hundred and eighty

2347
01:51:42,107 --> 01:51:45,707
Speaker 1: ten eighty Weekends Forward with Jason Tyme and GJ. Gunner

2348
01:51:45,747 --> 01:51:48,827
Speaker 1: Homes New Zealand's most trusted homebuilder News Talks.

2349
01:51:48,867 --> 01:51:51,827
Speaker 3: It'd BB two forty one to Vegas shortly for UFC

2350
01:51:51,947 --> 01:51:55,027
Speaker 3: three one seven, but just on the Warriors. We mentioned

2351
01:51:55,067 --> 01:51:57,707
Speaker 3: it with James mcconey. Back to back losses for the

2352
01:51:57,747 --> 01:51:59,827
Speaker 3: first time this season. Not much went their way in

2353
01:51:59,907 --> 01:52:01,707
Speaker 3: this game twenty six twelve, they went down to the

2354
01:52:01,747 --> 01:52:06,307
Speaker 3: Broncos in Brisbane. More worrying though, Luke metcarth and Tent

2355
01:52:06,747 --> 01:52:10,707
Speaker 3: and also Chance nikol Klukstar face stints on the sideline.

2356
01:52:10,747 --> 01:52:13,627
Speaker 3: They're both going to undergo scans when they get back

2357
01:52:13,667 --> 01:52:16,827
Speaker 3: to New Zealand on their knee or their respective knees.

2358
01:52:17,227 --> 01:52:21,107
Speaker 3: Early fears suggest that Luke Metcalf may have torn his

2359
01:52:21,307 --> 01:52:25,427
Speaker 3: acl Now that would be utterly, utterly tragic. He suffered

2360
01:52:25,467 --> 01:52:29,227
Speaker 3: the same injury in his left knee in twenty nineteen.

2361
01:52:29,307 --> 01:52:30,747
Speaker 3: Here's Andrew Webster afterwards.

2362
01:52:30,947 --> 01:52:32,867
Speaker 29: We're not sure, y, yeah, we're going to have to

2363
01:52:32,907 --> 01:52:35,587
Speaker 29: get back to the New Zealand and find out, get

2364
01:52:35,627 --> 01:52:38,587
Speaker 29: some scans done on him and Chance and just see

2365
01:52:39,347 --> 01:52:40,627
Speaker 29: what the extent of the injuries are.

2366
01:52:41,067 --> 01:52:43,827
Speaker 4: But so may be planned in two weeks time.

2367
01:52:44,187 --> 01:52:46,187
Speaker 7: I can tell you that much. But I'm just going

2368
01:52:46,267 --> 01:52:47,907
Speaker 7: to wait and see what the scans are.

2369
01:52:48,347 --> 01:52:52,587
Speaker 3: Utterly utterly gutting for well, both of those players. By

2370
01:52:52,627 --> 01:52:54,627
Speaker 3: the sounds of things, metcalf is the one who might

2371
01:52:54,707 --> 01:52:57,627
Speaker 3: face the longest stint. We keep our fingers crossed. Andrew

2372
01:52:57,627 --> 01:53:01,147
Speaker 3: Webster was also aggrieved by two key off side rulings

2373
01:53:01,187 --> 01:53:03,547
Speaker 3: that went against his side. In the first half, Wade

2374
01:53:03,587 --> 01:53:05,387
Speaker 3: Egan was penalized for being off side. Then in the

2375
01:53:05,467 --> 01:53:10,067
Speaker 3: second half, Broncos fullback Reese Walsh was taken out chasing

2376
01:53:10,147 --> 01:53:13,747
Speaker 3: an Adam Reynolds kick. Brisbane were given a penalty despite

2377
01:53:13,787 --> 01:53:15,587
Speaker 3: the fact that Reese Walsh was offside.

2378
01:53:15,867 --> 01:53:16,947
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was right in front of that.

2379
01:53:17,067 --> 01:53:19,507
Speaker 2: He was miles offside, miles off side.

2380
01:53:19,947 --> 01:53:22,387
Speaker 27: Kwade Egan in the first half, I asked you to

2381
01:53:22,427 --> 01:53:24,227
Speaker 27: go and pause it when the play the ball is

2382
01:53:24,267 --> 01:53:25,107
Speaker 27: and you Tommy.

2383
01:53:25,307 --> 01:53:27,467
Speaker 4: How he's offside. He's three meters on side.

2384
01:53:28,147 --> 01:53:30,227
Speaker 2: So thither it's like.

2385
01:53:30,307 --> 01:53:31,547
Speaker 4: They just made that up.

2386
01:53:32,227 --> 01:53:34,267
Speaker 7: Ricee Walsh is waiting in front of the first refrigement.

2387
01:53:34,307 --> 01:53:34,507
Speaker 4: It's that.

2388
01:53:36,467 --> 01:53:38,387
Speaker 5: And if I give me a crap that it's found

2389
01:53:38,427 --> 01:53:41,747
Speaker 5: players on, it's that's the first refreshment.

2390
01:53:41,787 --> 01:53:42,587
Speaker 4: I don't know how they miss it.

2391
01:53:43,587 --> 01:53:44,987
Speaker 24: I'm not a touch judge, I'm not a ref.

2392
01:53:45,347 --> 01:53:46,867
Speaker 4: I was down there. I can see there you go.

2393
01:53:47,067 --> 01:53:52,187
Speaker 3: So yeah, some more than mild annoyance there from Andrew Webster.

2394
01:53:52,427 --> 01:53:54,107
Speaker 3: They got to buy. Next week the Warriors and then

2395
01:53:54,147 --> 01:53:57,507
Speaker 3: the West Tigers are their next opponent. We wait, as

2396
01:53:57,547 --> 01:54:01,747
Speaker 3: I say. Four News on Luke Metcalf and Charan's Nicol Klukstar.

2397
01:54:02,307 --> 01:54:05,987
Speaker 3: UFC three one seven is on at T Mobile Arena

2398
01:54:06,147 --> 01:54:08,987
Speaker 3: in Las Vegas this afternoon of most interest for us?

2399
01:54:09,387 --> 01:54:11,747
Speaker 3: Can we fight at Kai Cutter France fighting for the

2400
01:54:11,907 --> 01:54:17,267
Speaker 3: UFC Flyweight title. He's up against current title holder Alexandra Pantoca.

2401
01:54:17,867 --> 01:54:21,067
Speaker 3: UFC three one seven available on Skysport now pay per

2402
01:54:21,227 --> 01:54:25,627
Speaker 3: view Skysport. UFC presenter and analyst Raven de Hernia joins

2403
01:54:25,667 --> 01:54:30,547
Speaker 3: us from Vegas. Exciting times. Rav for Chai Cutter France,

2404
01:54:30,587 --> 01:54:32,907
Speaker 3: what sort of feeling do you get from him? You've

2405
01:54:32,947 --> 01:54:34,547
Speaker 3: been in and around him and the build up to this.

2406
01:54:34,667 --> 01:54:36,507
Speaker 3: What sort of feeling do you get from Chai Cutter

2407
01:54:36,587 --> 01:54:40,787
Speaker 3: France against you know, ahead of his his flyweight title shot?

2408
01:54:41,787 --> 01:54:45,707
Speaker 14: Well, first of all, Kelder, I get absolute confidence from him.

2409
01:54:45,827 --> 01:54:47,547
Speaker 14: I've you know, I've.

2410
01:54:47,427 --> 01:54:49,707
Speaker 30: Been there to witness and get ready for fights before,

2411
01:54:49,787 --> 01:54:52,827
Speaker 30: but I've never seen him so like ready, but so

2412
01:54:53,027 --> 01:54:57,747
Speaker 30: tuned in ready. I don't whenever we are having conversations

2413
01:54:57,787 --> 01:54:58,867
Speaker 30: about the fight or anything.

2414
01:54:58,947 --> 01:55:02,347
Speaker 14: He's never ever talking about Pantosa. He's always talking about.

2415
01:55:02,467 --> 01:55:05,907
Speaker 30: You know, his mindset, his preparations, what he's done in

2416
01:55:06,027 --> 01:55:09,827
Speaker 30: terms of embracing his Tahamudia, you know, a lot more

2417
01:55:09,947 --> 01:55:12,907
Speaker 30: during this camp to get him in the right mind.

2418
01:55:12,747 --> 01:55:14,467
Speaker 14: Space, spiritual space.

2419
01:55:14,867 --> 01:55:17,067
Speaker 30: So I get a real sense of confidence from him

2420
01:55:17,107 --> 01:55:20,027
Speaker 30: that he feels he is, you know, has the goods

2421
01:55:20,067 --> 01:55:21,947
Speaker 30: to get the better of Pantosa if he just does

2422
01:55:22,107 --> 01:55:22,547
Speaker 30: his best.

2423
01:55:23,187 --> 01:55:26,547
Speaker 3: So what is his best strategy. We'll talk about Pantoja

2424
01:55:26,587 --> 01:55:29,227
Speaker 3: in a sec but what is what is Kai cal

2425
01:55:29,267 --> 01:55:32,107
Speaker 3: of Franz's best strategy for winning this fight?

2426
01:55:33,787 --> 01:55:36,627
Speaker 14: Well, I would say his hands. He has very heavy hands.

2427
01:55:36,667 --> 01:55:39,187
Speaker 30: He is one of the most prolific knockout artists of

2428
01:55:39,227 --> 01:55:41,467
Speaker 30: the flyweight division, which is rare because he's.

2429
01:55:41,307 --> 01:55:42,147
Speaker 14: A little guys.

2430
01:55:42,547 --> 01:55:46,347
Speaker 30: No offense where you usually see you know, more movement,

2431
01:55:46,507 --> 01:55:49,667
Speaker 30: being more agile, being more mobile with kais, those things

2432
01:55:49,707 --> 01:55:50,067
Speaker 30: as well.

2433
01:55:50,427 --> 01:55:52,027
Speaker 14: But if he gets his hands on you, it can

2434
01:55:52,107 --> 01:55:53,267
Speaker 14: be lights out very early.

2435
01:55:53,347 --> 01:55:55,867
Speaker 30: And you know a couple of his past opponents in

2436
01:55:56,107 --> 01:56:00,427
Speaker 30: his last five fights have been victim to that. Whereas Pantosia,

2437
01:56:00,587 --> 01:56:02,747
Speaker 30: he likes to you know pace himself a little bit more,

2438
01:56:02,747 --> 01:56:05,107
Speaker 30: so I think that would work in Kai's favor, that

2439
01:56:05,427 --> 01:56:07,107
Speaker 30: if he can get close enough to touch him, like

2440
01:56:07,187 --> 01:56:09,387
Speaker 30: we saw improofed against Steve Uzig, it could be lights

2441
01:56:09,387 --> 01:56:10,187
Speaker 30: out for Pantosa.

2442
01:56:10,387 --> 01:56:13,347
Speaker 3: You're right, though, Rav, You know they're fifty seven kilos,

2443
01:56:13,387 --> 01:56:15,587
Speaker 3: these guys. There's nothing to them, is there? You know

2444
01:56:15,707 --> 01:56:18,827
Speaker 3: they are, But they're just just pocket rockets, aren't they.

2445
01:56:19,067 --> 01:56:22,427
Speaker 3: What kind of fight do we normally get a in

2446
01:56:22,507 --> 01:56:25,067
Speaker 3: a flyway battle? What can we expect when these two

2447
01:56:25,147 --> 01:56:25,747
Speaker 3: hit the octagon?

2448
01:56:27,587 --> 01:56:29,187
Speaker 14: Well, I'm not sure if the fight's going to go

2449
01:56:29,227 --> 01:56:30,147
Speaker 14: the whole five rounds.

2450
01:56:30,947 --> 01:56:34,267
Speaker 30: Alessandro Pantosa is a specialist of taking fighters into deep

2451
01:56:34,307 --> 01:56:35,627
Speaker 30: waters in those five rounds.

2452
01:56:35,907 --> 01:56:37,067
Speaker 14: He's obviously the champion.

2453
01:56:37,147 --> 01:56:39,707
Speaker 30: This is his fourth title defense, so he is used

2454
01:56:39,747 --> 01:56:42,027
Speaker 30: to fighting these five rounds. The opponents he comes up

2455
01:56:42,027 --> 01:56:44,387
Speaker 30: against are only used to three, so he knows that

2456
01:56:44,547 --> 01:56:47,387
Speaker 30: his advantage because his condition is to take them through

2457
01:56:47,427 --> 01:56:49,787
Speaker 30: the five. So I'm thinking Kai might not want to

2458
01:56:49,867 --> 01:56:51,627
Speaker 30: go that deep, but I think he has the tools

2459
01:56:51,707 --> 01:56:55,027
Speaker 30: to do that if he needs to. Alexander Pantosa he

2460
01:56:55,187 --> 01:56:57,947
Speaker 30: also gets touched a lot here. He's willing to take

2461
01:56:58,027 --> 01:57:02,107
Speaker 30: hits to get inside to give them. So that's why

2462
01:57:02,227 --> 01:57:04,627
Speaker 30: I feel that that works in kai Kut Francis favor

2463
01:57:04,707 --> 01:57:07,107
Speaker 30: because he has very heavy hands. But at the same time,

2464
01:57:07,227 --> 01:57:11,347
Speaker 30: Pantosa is very aware of this. Pantosa is very sturdy

2465
01:57:11,387 --> 01:57:13,707
Speaker 30: on the ground as well. With Brazilian jiu jitsu. Doesn't

2466
01:57:13,787 --> 01:57:16,507
Speaker 30: use it too often, but he may have to if

2467
01:57:16,547 --> 01:57:18,187
Speaker 30: he feels the power of Kai Kutter France.

2468
01:57:18,667 --> 01:57:20,947
Speaker 3: You forget that Kai Kutter France has been around for

2469
01:57:21,027 --> 01:57:22,907
Speaker 3: a while too, you know, I think these two four

2470
01:57:23,027 --> 01:57:25,627
Speaker 3: to twenty sixteen, that's going back a long way, and

2471
01:57:25,707 --> 01:57:28,067
Speaker 3: I'm sure a lot has changed in nine years watching

2472
01:57:28,187 --> 01:57:30,267
Speaker 3: him develop. You talked about his development as a human

2473
01:57:30,347 --> 01:57:33,747
Speaker 3: being before, but what have you noticed from him in

2474
01:57:33,867 --> 01:57:35,307
Speaker 3: his development as a fighter?

2475
01:57:37,267 --> 01:57:37,387
Speaker 4: Oh?

2476
01:57:37,507 --> 01:57:40,827
Speaker 30: Absolutely, his strength has gone tenfold. He is a much

2477
01:57:40,867 --> 01:57:43,387
Speaker 30: stronger fighter than he was. When you think back to

2478
01:57:43,547 --> 01:57:47,787
Speaker 30: twenty sixteen. You know, he was a young man, you know,

2479
01:57:47,947 --> 01:57:50,107
Speaker 30: almost a child, you know, of sorts in terms of

2480
01:57:50,147 --> 01:57:53,907
Speaker 30: his body, in terms of his growth maturity, both physically

2481
01:57:53,987 --> 01:57:57,027
Speaker 30: and mentally. So now he's a man, very sure of himself,

2482
01:57:57,427 --> 01:57:59,907
Speaker 30: very confident in his abilities, and with that has come

2483
01:58:00,227 --> 01:58:02,867
Speaker 30: strength in those facets of you know, backing himself with

2484
01:58:02,987 --> 01:58:04,987
Speaker 30: his hands. He's always had them, but now he knows

2485
01:58:05,027 --> 01:58:07,027
Speaker 30: how to use them to the full. So I think

2486
01:58:07,107 --> 01:58:09,907
Speaker 30: that's the difference, is that he's really matured both physically

2487
01:58:09,987 --> 01:58:10,507
Speaker 30: and mentally.

2488
01:58:10,787 --> 01:58:14,107
Speaker 3: I can't wait to see this this afternoon. Carla France

2489
01:58:14,147 --> 01:58:18,067
Speaker 3: against Pantoja. What are the other features of UFC three

2490
01:58:18,147 --> 01:58:18,587
Speaker 3: one seven?

2491
01:58:20,307 --> 01:58:22,307
Speaker 30: Oh, you can't stare away from the main event. Charles

2492
01:58:22,347 --> 01:58:26,507
Speaker 30: Olivera up against Ilya Taperia. Taperia's come up from the

2493
01:58:26,587 --> 01:58:29,707
Speaker 30: lightweight from the featherweight division. Sorry, he was the champion

2494
01:58:29,747 --> 01:58:32,387
Speaker 30: and now he's coming for the lightweight title. Charles Olivia

2495
01:58:32,507 --> 01:58:35,267
Speaker 30: was a former champion and the belt is now vacant,

2496
01:58:35,307 --> 01:58:36,627
Speaker 30: so it'll be interesting to see.

2497
01:58:37,187 --> 01:58:39,947
Speaker 14: Who walks away victorious. Will it be the old experienced

2498
01:58:39,987 --> 01:58:41,667
Speaker 14: head of Charles Olivia or will it.

2499
01:58:41,707 --> 01:58:44,667
Speaker 30: Be the new generational fighter in Ilia Taperia find that

2500
01:58:44,947 --> 01:58:48,627
Speaker 30: very very intriguing. There's also another flyweight fight on that card,

2501
01:58:48,707 --> 01:58:52,307
Speaker 30: Brandon Rouval up against Joshua Van Brandon Rouval is the

2502
01:58:52,387 --> 01:58:54,947
Speaker 30: number one seed in the flyweight division, and he told

2503
01:58:55,067 --> 01:58:57,627
Speaker 30: us this week that he needs kai Carda France to

2504
01:58:57,667 --> 01:58:59,707
Speaker 30: win this fight so that he can have another title

2505
01:58:59,747 --> 01:59:02,547
Speaker 30: shot because Pantojo has beaten him in the past, so

2506
01:59:02,627 --> 01:59:05,507
Speaker 30: there's a lot at stake in terms of the flyweight math,

2507
01:59:06,427 --> 01:59:08,867
Speaker 30: what happens between Pantosia and kai Kater France as well.

2508
01:59:08,947 --> 01:59:11,027
Speaker 30: So a few cool little things to look out.

2509
01:59:10,907 --> 01:59:14,827
Speaker 3: For, absolutely, and part of the week's activities inductions into

2510
01:59:14,907 --> 01:59:17,627
Speaker 3: the UFC Hall of Fame, including a fighter pretty well

2511
01:59:17,707 --> 01:59:18,227
Speaker 3: known to us.

2512
01:59:19,907 --> 01:59:21,867
Speaker 30: That's right, yep, asrall at this on you What a

2513
01:59:21,907 --> 01:59:23,467
Speaker 30: bonus to be able to come over here and not

2514
01:59:23,587 --> 01:59:26,867
Speaker 30: only watch you know, kai Kita France go to war today,

2515
01:59:26,947 --> 01:59:29,547
Speaker 30: but to also watch israel A this on your you know,

2516
01:59:29,667 --> 01:59:32,627
Speaker 30: his fight be inducted into the UFC Hall of Fame.

2517
01:59:32,667 --> 01:59:34,467
Speaker 30: We of course got to catch up with him as well,

2518
01:59:34,507 --> 01:59:37,907
Speaker 30: and in this typical fashion, we didn't really talk much

2519
01:59:37,907 --> 01:59:39,187
Speaker 30: about him and his induction.

2520
01:59:39,467 --> 01:59:41,187
Speaker 14: You know, he's none the news for a little while now.

2521
01:59:41,227 --> 01:59:43,187
Speaker 30: I think the novelty maybe wore off a little bit

2522
01:59:43,267 --> 01:59:45,907
Speaker 30: until he was up on stage with Calvin Gasoline, but

2523
01:59:45,947 --> 01:59:47,747
Speaker 30: he just went on and on, you know, about the

2524
01:59:47,867 --> 01:59:50,307
Speaker 30: pride that he has and kai Kuta France and the

2525
01:59:50,387 --> 01:59:52,587
Speaker 30: you know, the true reason why he's here this weekend.

2526
01:59:52,627 --> 01:59:55,267
Speaker 30: But that's just the reflection on this team on this

2527
01:59:55,467 --> 01:59:57,067
Speaker 30: force that has come into Las Vegas.

2528
01:59:57,107 --> 01:59:58,667
Speaker 14: We look up at the billboards on the strip.

2529
01:59:59,107 --> 02:00:00,787
Speaker 30: We've got Kai kind of France on one side, and

2530
02:00:00,827 --> 02:00:02,507
Speaker 30: we've got Israel at this on your Hall of Fame

2531
02:00:02,547 --> 02:00:04,227
Speaker 30: on the other. I you know, never thought in a

2532
02:00:04,267 --> 02:00:06,907
Speaker 30: million years on my first trip to Las Vegas Kili's

2533
02:00:07,227 --> 02:00:08,627
Speaker 30: lighting up the Las Vegas Strip.

2534
02:00:08,747 --> 02:00:11,227
Speaker 14: But here we are, and it's a great thing to see.

2535
02:00:11,467 --> 02:00:13,107
Speaker 3: And did you think in a million years that you

2536
02:00:13,147 --> 02:00:15,867
Speaker 3: would get to meet Shaquille O'Neil on the red carpet?

2537
02:00:17,467 --> 02:00:18,467
Speaker 14: Did that even happen?

2538
02:00:19,627 --> 02:00:23,347
Speaker 30: It still feels like a blur. He is absolutely hilarious though.

2539
02:00:23,347 --> 02:00:25,627
Speaker 30: It was really cool, and we saw him walk at you.

2540
02:00:25,667 --> 02:00:27,227
Speaker 30: I mean, you can't miss him. We see him walking

2541
02:00:27,307 --> 02:00:29,387
Speaker 30: down the red carpet, you know, and we're like, oh,

2542
02:00:29,427 --> 02:00:31,147
Speaker 30: we don't know if he's there for interviews because you know,

2543
02:00:31,187 --> 02:00:33,427
Speaker 30: we're there for the fighters, or if he's going to

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Speaker 30: stop him and chat with us. And then you know,

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Speaker 30: when the media girl tapped me on the should oh

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Speaker 30: would you like to talk to check?

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Speaker 14: And I'm like, oh my goodness, my heart dropped on

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Speaker 14: you know, I'm in a dress, I've got makeup on us.

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Speaker 14: Starts sweating.

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Speaker 30: I just don't know what to do, don't know where

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Speaker 30: to look, and then there he was standing there right

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Speaker 30: beside me.

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Speaker 14: I was like, okay, let's have a card at all,

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Speaker 14: Let's do it.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely loved it, honestly, so authentic. It was just so

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Speaker 3: cool for you to get the chance to chat to

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Speaker 3: And that's the that's the benefit of being in Vegas.

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Speaker 3: You never know, never know who was going to turn up.

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Speaker 3: But you were three one seven on pay per view

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Speaker 3: on Sky from two o'clock this afternoon. Revender, your coverage

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Speaker 3: is absolutely superbos always appreciate you taking time to chat

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Speaker 3: to us this afternoon.

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Speaker 14: Thank you so much. Enjoy the fights team.

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Speaker 3: We definitely will Revender Hunia out of Las Vegas a

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Speaker 3: UFC three to one seven Best guests on when Chai

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Speaker 3: Cutter France will be in the octagon to face Alexander

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Speaker 3: Pantoja for the usc flyweight title is some time after four.

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Speaker 3: That's about us as exact as we can get at

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Speaker 3: the moment. You know what happens with these things. They

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Speaker 3: tend to get pushed back and it depends on how

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Speaker 3: long the undercard goes for et cetera. But sometime after four,

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Speaker 3: Ki Cutter France will be in the ring in the

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Speaker 3: octagon to take on Alexander Pantoja for the UFC Flyweight title.

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Speaker 3: Nine Away from three News Talks, heb.

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Speaker 1: The scoons from the track, fields and the Court on

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Speaker 1: your home of Sort Weekend Sport with Jason Vine News Talks.

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Speaker 3: NB News Talks, ABN Weekend Sport two fifty four. The

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Speaker 3: show is just about add an end. Thank you to

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Speaker 3: everybody who entered our competition to win the Phoenix Wrexhom tickets.

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Speaker 3: All hep of texts came through. Producer Mark Kelly will

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Speaker 3: draw at random three winners and get in touch with

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Speaker 3: you to arrange delivery of your double passes for the

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Speaker 3: Phoenix Wrecksom game on Saturday July nineteen at Sky Stadium.

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Speaker 3: Had a message through asking about the time of kickoff.

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Speaker 3: I hope it doesn't clash with the All Blacks. Thankfully

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Speaker 3: it doesn't. The Wrexham Phoenix game starts at five o'clock

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Speaker 3: the All Blacks underway at seven o'clock, so back to

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Speaker 3: back that day. If you wanted to watch both of them,

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Speaker 3: where are INDONEDA next week? Don't forget All All Blacks

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Speaker 3: test matches are live and free on News Talks, HEDB

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Speaker 3: and Gold Sport across twenty twenty five. The show will

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Speaker 3: come to you next weekend from Emerson's in Dunedian can't

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Speaker 3: wait to be in Test City for the first Test

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Speaker 3: match of twenty twenty five. If you're around Emerson's Brewery,

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Speaker 3: it's pretty iconic in Dunedin. We'd love you to stop

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Speaker 3: buy and have a chat to us before the game

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Speaker 3: between twelve and three. Thank you for listening to this

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Speaker 3: same afternoon, Tim Beverage is all set to go for

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Speaker 3: the weekend collective Sunday edition. Massive thanks to Mark Kelly

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Speaker 3: for producing the show across the weekend. Ah, it's good

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Speaker 3: to see you mate. Thanks for all your help. We're

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Speaker 3: back on Sports Talk tomorrow night. Taking us out today well,

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Speaker 3: we had Raiser in studio. Closest I could find was

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Speaker 3: English indie rock band raizor Light with probably their biggest

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Speaker 3: hit America, taking us out. Thanks for joining us this afternoon.

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Speaker 3: See Tomorrow night on Sports Talk five.

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Speaker 14: Now Tonight.

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Speaker 1: Sea for more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen

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Speaker 1: live to News Talks it Be weekends from midday or

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