1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,239 Speaker 1: There are calls for the government to step in after 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: the Benz has been given permission to close Gloriavale's bank accounts. 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: Gloriavale's lawyer said last month that the loss of banking 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: services will effectively end the community. Benz has made the 5 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: call after the Employment Court found a number of former 6 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: Gloria Vale members had worked since the age of six 7 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: and were subject to physical punishment. Brian Henry was the 8 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: lawyer who represented those former members and he's with me 9 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: this afternoon. 10 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Good afternoon, Ryan, Brian, you. 11 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: Want the government to step in here, what exactly do 12 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 1: you want them to do? 13 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: Well? Gloriavale is a group of people. 14 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 3: There's a leadership who I consider to be part of 15 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 3: the dark arts of the world, and then there's the 16 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 3: people in there who are the victims and the followers, 17 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 3: and they're just innocent followers. Gloriavale's assets are their life's work. 18 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 3: It is their superannuation scheme, it is their asset. It's 19 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 3: head and trust by leadership and they lose everything. Now 20 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 3: Gloryvale needs to have a statutory manager appointed who takes 21 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,279 Speaker 3: over control. They need a plan similar to Lake Alice, 22 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 3: where they look at all the families help them in 23 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 3: this system. There's plenty of money there. There's forty five 24 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 3: to sixty five million, and it's something that would sell 25 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 3: fun and you look after the victims at the moment. 26 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 3: The victims are not just those who have left, but 27 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 3: a lot of people inside there still are victims of 28 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 3: these perpetrators. 29 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: So you're saying that the people on the outside have 30 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: actually escaped, they are going to miss out on money 31 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: that is owed to them through this organization. 32 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 3: It's not just that there are people inside there who 33 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 3: need to be freed from the tyranny of what's going 34 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 3: on there and reset up in society where they get 35 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 3: a decent education for their children and they have the 36 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 3: opportunity to live life as three people, not as people 37 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 3: with free will crust out of them before they're three 38 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 3: months old. 39 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: And it's a double edged sword here. 40 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 3: There are people inside and there's people outside whose money 41 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 3: is at stake, are at stake. 42 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: What about those who might say, well, the people who 43 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: are still there, that that's their choice. 44 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: Their adults, No, there's no choice. They can't leave. 45 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 3: They have practices on them from theirth to break their 46 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 3: free will. They and I've got eavens just recently of 47 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 3: girls practicing a dance, and the dance is an interpretation 48 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 3: of the. 49 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: Bible, if you go to Hell, if. 50 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 3: You leave gloriaal This is a community that is very 51 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,839 Speaker 3: controlled and they do not have free will and there 52 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 3: at all. In fact, free will is driven out of them. 53 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 3: They have to be in what's called unity and its 54 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 3: submission to the overseeing shepherd full stop. 55 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 2: They have no choice to leave, Okay? 56 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: Can we so that aside? The b and Z has 57 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: given a three month notice period, so by March next 58 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: year they could be without a bank there. Lawyers say 59 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: this could end the community as we know it. Can 60 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 1: we rule out another bank coming into you give them 61 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: the services they need? 62 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,679 Speaker 2: I guess yes we can. 63 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 3: The BENZ hasn't acted in a capricious manner on this. 64 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 3: The bn Z, like all financial institutions around the world, 65 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 3: raise money from various funding lines. The international law is 66 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 3: quite clear you do not have child labor, you do 67 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 3: not have force child labor in banking arrangements. That is 68 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 3: well understood international law. But in New Zealand we have 69 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 3: the Labor Inspectorate and apparently Crown laws signing off saying 70 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 3: six year old boys who if they don't work, don't eat, 71 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 3: and if they don't work hard and they get beaten 72 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 3: with shovel handles, are volunteers. Now New Zealand's is out 73 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 3: of kilter with the world. This is recognized worldwide as 74 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 3: something that should not be happening in a first world country, 75 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 3: and here it is still going on today, nothing done 76 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 3: about it. It's time someone stood up and became accountable 77 00:03:58,680 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 3: in government. 78 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: Thank you very much for your time this afternoon, Really 79 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: appreciate it. That's Brian Henry. He's the lawyer who represented 80 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: those former members of Gloria Vail. Of course there are 81 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: many still there, hundreds of children still there as well. 82 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 3: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 83 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 3: news talks. 84 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast 85 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio.