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Speaker 1: So has the Justice Minister had the work of his

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Speaker 1: life or what? Yet? Another announcement, this time trespassed law's

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Speaker 1: businesses will now be able to trespass individuals from multiple locations.

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Speaker 1: Finds increased from one thousand to two thousand. Tresspass period

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Speaker 1: moves to three years. Steve Armitage's Hospitality in New Zealand's

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Speaker 1: Boston is back with the Steve Morning, Good morning mate.

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Speaker 1: Is this a move in the right direction, Yes, it

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Speaker 1: certainly is.

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Speaker 2: As you've outlined the trespassed laws, the black teeth, they've

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Speaker 2: been outdated for some time. When the law was introduced

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Speaker 2: back in nineteen eighty, a fine of one thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: was much more material than it is some forty five

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Speaker 2: years later. In fact, I we back and looked at

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Speaker 2: what the world back says in the purchasing pair of

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Speaker 2: one thousand dollars in nineteen eighty equates to around fifty

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars today. So on that basis you could say

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Speaker 2: these proposed fines don't go far enough.

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Speaker 1: Good fun. Fact, Steve, nice to bring it to the program. Now,

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Speaker 1: how big an issue was trespassing generally in hospital?

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Speaker 2: It is an issue in our environment. They're mainly issued

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Speaker 2: for antisocial behavior and intoxication, and that can be quite

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Speaker 2: challenging if someone's had a few and isn't thinking straight

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Speaker 2: or listening to reason. So enforcement is really important here.

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Speaker 2: We're certainly going to need to see every one of

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Speaker 2: those new recruits that the government's committed to delivering, because

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Speaker 2: ultimately these are great measures and they're removing the right direction.

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Speaker 2: But enforcement is going to be key.

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Speaker 1: That would anyone pay a fine, Well, that's not really

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Speaker 1: your problem.

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Speaker 2: It's not so much the problem. We're hoping that access

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Speaker 2: as a deterrein more than anything. But either say, I

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Speaker 2: think there's room for those fines to move. There's a

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Speaker 2: much stronger measure.

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Speaker 1: And the threat but a new thing. Whatever, would you

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Speaker 1: boot you one out for three years? Or is that

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Speaker 1: a bit extreme?

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Speaker 2: I think there would be cases where that's warranted. We've

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Speaker 2: certainly seen incidences where the level of violence has crossed

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Speaker 2: the threshold, and I know operators out there would much

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Speaker 2: rather want to keep their staff and their customers safe

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Speaker 2: than have some of the pavior that happens on site

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Speaker 2: at times happen.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's good, that's good news. I've got consumer spending

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Speaker 1: numbers out yesterday. I'm noting that HOSPO is down. What

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Speaker 1: have I got two point four percent? Are you feeling

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Speaker 1: that scene?

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Speaker 2: That?

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Speaker 1: Is that about right? Feeling about right?

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Speaker 2: Look, I think in the general sense, the hospital is improving.

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Speaker 2: I think rumors of US decline have been unfounded for

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Speaker 2: some time. If you look at the number of hospitality

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Speaker 2: businesses operating now, there's more than there was five years ago,

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Speaker 2: There's more than there was ten years ago. It's closures

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Speaker 2: that tend to dominate the headlines, but there's new venues

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Speaker 2: opening up all the time. So look, I've heard you

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Speaker 2: say on the show, and I agree with you. You know,

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Speaker 2: those operators that do a good job and deliver good

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Speaker 2: experiences for their customers, they'll find a way through. So look,

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Speaker 2: we're pretty encouraged by the fact that visited numbers continue

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Speaker 2: to pack up. We're hoping that that'll be the case

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Speaker 2: over the course of the summer in hospital will continue

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Speaker 2: to thrive.

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Speaker 1: Well said, Appreciate you time, you have a good weekend.

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