1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: We welcome back doctor Laura Phi for morning. 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 2: Good morning. Look how are you. 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: Oh, it's wonderful to have you back on the wireless 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: I'm great things. Something that has ironically drawn some attention 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: this week. Spotted it on the news Sunday nights, ADHD 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: and a potential shortage of meds. Why don't we start 7 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: with ADHD itself? What is this? 8 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: So? ADHD stands for attention deskerit hyperactivity disorder, and it 9 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: belongs to these neurodevelopmental conditions or neurodiverse conditions, and it 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 2: sort of affects how the brain regulates attention organization and 11 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: our impulse control. 12 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: How's it diagnosed? 13 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 2: Oh, it's a very comprehensive assessment that involved lots of 14 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: things like history taking, looking at school reports, maybe interviewing parents, 15 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 2: school teachers. So there's a lot that needs to go 16 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 2: into that assessment, and they generally take about and a 17 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: half to two hours to go through a diagnostic process, 18 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 2: also to rule out other conditions that can present quite similar, 19 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 2: like anxiety and sleep problems. So it's quite a long assessment. 20 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: So it's been reported there's a shortage of meds used 21 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: to treat this. The likes of concert and Teeva. Is 22 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: this a concern. 23 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: It's a reflection of a global supply shortage, so New 24 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 2: Zealand is impacted by that as well. And the farmac 25 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: is working to try and provide alternative brands and formulations 26 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 2: so patients are encouraged if they do run out of 27 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 2: medications not to threat to consult their pharmacist or GP 28 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: because there are some alternatives that are available. 29 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. Right, it feels like so many more people are 30 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 1: being diagnosed with ADHD these days. What's that all about. 31 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: Do you think it's because it's more there's more known 32 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: about it, or a doctor's being too liberal with their prescriptions. 33 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: It's a long as spectrum disorder, which means it sort 34 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: of varies in symptoms and in severity. And I think 35 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: it's promssibly a bit of a combination or of the above, 36 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 2: that there is more recognition for it, we're talking about 37 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 2: it a lot more. I also think it's just how 38 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 2: we're living our lives that makes those symptoms possibly stand 39 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 2: out more and more severe. So being really busy, having 40 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 2: a lot to manage pressure and stress of things that 41 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 2: already flare people that have ADHD. But it's a lifelong condition, 42 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: so you don't just develop ADHD, but they're throughout a lifetime, 43 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: but it might flare and change over the course of 44 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: your life in response to things like stress and hormones 45 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 2: and those sorts of things. But also I think the 46 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: increased screen time and lack of sleep don't help in 47 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 2: terms of its diagnosis or people that have this that 48 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 2: their symptoms may be more severe than they would have 49 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 2: been otherwise. 50 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, too, right, something that's changed since we last caught 51 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: up the government's announced twelve months prescriptions. How does this 52 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: work if we're already got a prescription that does it 53 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: automatically extend? 54 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 2: No, that's not the default position. The default position is 55 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 2: how things are currently and so patients need to be 56 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 2: eligible for this, and I think a lot of gps 57 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 2: have already been doing this in terms of just drawing 58 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: people in for a once a year physical review. But 59 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 2: we've been in sync with pharmacy prescriptions which have three 60 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 2: months long, so people have had to contact us to 61 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: get another script for their three months. So for people 62 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 2: that have really stable long term conditions, what we are 63 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: now able to do is issue the pharmac there twelve 64 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 2: month script. I should still collect that every three months, 65 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 2: but it just means that if we are doing those 66 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 2: very stable patients with maybe just a couple of medications 67 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 2: and we're quite happy that they're safe and really been 68 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,119 Speaker 2: well looked after anyway, that we can now give them 69 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 2: that whole year at once and review them once a 70 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 2: year with that twelve month script. 71 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: Also, the twelve months isn't isn't for everybody. 72 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: It's not automatic at all, and you need to be eligible. 73 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: And most practices are doing similar to what we're doing 74 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: at nexton, which is we need to see you to 75 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: determine it. That's okay, first catch up, talk about any 76 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: things that we really want you to look out for 77 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: because we're not touching bases often, and then we might 78 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 2: be happy to issue a twelve month script or a 79 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: six month script. It might depend. 80 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, god chair, Hey, super quick talking change. Also, since 81 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: we last caught up, I introduced you as doctor Laura Fifer. 82 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: Might need to correct myself on that because you've had 83 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: a pretty major life development. 84 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I did get married over the summer break. Yay. Yeah, yeah, 85 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: professionally my last name hasn't changed, and that just just 86 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 2: just too much effort at this point in time. But yes, no, 87 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: thank you very much, We had a brilliant day at it, 88 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 2: savely and all our vengers were amazing. So great place 89 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 2: to get married with Canterbury. 90 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure it looked gorgeous and I caught some of 91 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: the pictures You looked stunning on Facy there as well. 92 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:52,799 Speaker 1: I see you on Facy that your name has changed, 93 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: so welcome to the club, Missus Coots. Does it feel 94 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: weird yet? 95 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 2: Absolutely done? Yeah? I think you know even little things 96 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 2: when you see my initials on my work roster. For 97 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 2: a while I had to figure out who this new 98 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 2: doctor was working with us, But 99 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: Well for us, you can remain doctor Laura Phi for 100 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: wonderful and thanks for the for the ketchup.