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Speaker 2: Hello you, Great New Zealand, and welcome to Matt and

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Speaker 2: Tyler Full Show Podcast number two to one for the

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Speaker 2: fourteenth of octor Ober twenty twenty five. Hey, what date

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Speaker 2: did we start this show last year?

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Speaker 3: It's a good question.

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Speaker 2: I think I feel like it was the twenty first

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Speaker 2: of October. Let's see if I think it was late

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Speaker 2: October last year.

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Speaker 3: It might be a one year happy birthday we.

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Speaker 2: Should we should work out when it's been a year

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Speaker 2: since we've been doing the show.

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Speaker 3: Be dangerously close. I don't know, Andrew, do you know.

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Speaker 2: That I think we might have msst have one year anniversary.

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Speaker 3: We can still celebrate it. Oh, can't we.

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Speaker 2: I'm incredibly offended that you guys forgot my anniversary and

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Speaker 2: that you forgot our anniversary. It's on Andrew our anniversary day.

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Speaker 3: He's on the Edmond side.

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Speaker 2: You should have got we should have got each other

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Speaker 2: flowers and Chocky's. Anyway, we'll get to the bottom of that.

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Speaker 2: But I think Andrew might be right. I think we

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Speaker 2: might have must have Anyway, we'll get it next year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we'll get the second booth day, we'll get

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Speaker 3: our ten uere the seventh.

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Speaker 2: Apparently it was the seventh. It was a week ago,

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Speaker 2: so we missed it by a week.

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Speaker 3: Well, there we go.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the lame Okay, we'll we'll, we'll look that up. Anyways,

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Speaker 2: a fantastic show, a lot of a lot of chat

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Speaker 2: about the whole Gaza situation, deep intense chat. And then

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Speaker 2: we went summer holidays in the whale chat was really

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Speaker 2: So Steve Hathaway, I think he rang up. I think

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Speaker 2: he's the cameraman who's shooting whales under under the water,

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Speaker 2: and Kent Briggs is the guy. Just this is just

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Speaker 2: very end of the show. It's Kent Briggs who made

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Speaker 2: anyway killed a poodle? Yep, Okay, So that's Kent Briggs

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Speaker 2: and Steve Alloways the is the is the photographer? All right?

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Speaker 3: A very good afternoon to you. Welcome into Tuesday. I

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Speaker 3: hope you're doing well. We're here, you're listening in this

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Speaker 3: country of ours. Kid a Matt, you get a titler,

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Speaker 3: get a great New Zealanders. What a show we've got

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Speaker 3: planned for you the next three hours. What's it like

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Speaker 3: around the country. It's very wet where we are, super wet.

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Speaker 3: Very pampered. But right on to today's show, It is

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Speaker 2: But I'd love to see a love to see a whale,

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Speaker 3: Yep, looking forward to that after two o'clock. Summer jobs

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what a boring summer. But we can to have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so, seven hundred and thirty eight days those hostages

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Speaker 2: right now? You know people wanted to cease fire. They've

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Speaker 2: got it. Are you happy to call it trump ceasefire?

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Speaker 2: Eighty Trump And I know saying that will be well,

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Speaker 3: But we want to hear from you. If that upsets you,

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Speaker 2: This is on the nature experience. Someone's seen, someone's seeing

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Speaker 3: That that is a wildlife experience, that's for sure.

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Speaker 2: Right It's Sextus is not a Trump fan, but hats

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Speaker 3: Keep those teachs coming through. A nine two nine two.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, to the big trends

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Speaker 3: They'd be for a good afternoon. June sixteen, A pass one.

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Speaker 3: Does Donald Trump deserve credit for helping broker the ceasefire

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it'll be interesting for people, as we say,

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Speaker 2: who really don't like Donald Trump, do they give him

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Speaker 2: credit on this one issue? Mary, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: In Jerusalem is back with this? Has today been the

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Speaker 3: Z B Afternoon. Are you willing to give Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: This text to Shane says, Hi, guys, it's not thousands

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Speaker 2: Your thoughts on this. Does Trump deserve credit for this?

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Speaker 10: I'm not, but I do give credit where it's due

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Matt, like just seeing those passages. I love seeing

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Speaker 7: Did you watch those clips?

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Speaker 10: It's the human emotion. It's it's amazing.

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Speaker 10: It's not realistic in saying it's going to be peace,

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Speaker 2: Well, just on there, Dallas.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, most of my friends, Tyler, they don't care. No

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Speaker 10: see we want to see food being allowed back into Gaza,

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Speaker 10: which is apparently happening, food and medical aid. And we

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Speaker 10: wanted to see those hossages returned, which has happened. So

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Speaker 10: no one, I don't think anyone cares about his personal motivations.

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Speaker 10: And I would say, look, give all the all the

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Speaker 10: prizes he wants, you know, if he can achieve lost.

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Speaker 11: And piece there.

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Speaker 10: You know, I don't care about his motivations.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think you know what that probably means to

444
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Speaker 2: me that you are a person whose heart is in

445
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Speaker 2: the right place, because what you're thinking about it is

446
00:23:06,813 --> 00:23:10,893
Speaker 2: purely the humanitarians that situation, and you want the killing

447
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Speaker 2: to stop. You want you know, on both sides.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that that is the case in some

449
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Speaker 3: quarters who have been quite vocal on what's happening over

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Speaker 3: there and vocal within our own country, do you think

451
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Speaker 3: they may feel the same way you do.

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Speaker 10: Well, as I said, most of my lefty friends, if

453
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Speaker 10: you like, they have the same opinion as me. We

454
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Speaker 10: just want to see peace and.

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Speaker 12: Trump.

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Speaker 8: It's a very the mysterious.

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Speaker 10: Place in the Middle East, isn't it. At the best

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Speaker 10: of time, You know, it's the mysterious place, and it

459
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Speaker 10: hasn't been helped in this conflict by Israel not allowing

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Speaker 10: press into Gaza or anything to get the true report.

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Speaker 10: So we're just getting all these rumors. But now, hopefully,

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Speaker 10: do you think they'll let the press.

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Speaker 4: Back in there?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, is my answer to that. I'm sure

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Speaker 3: they will. I mean, they've got a big press contingent

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Speaker 3: with Donald Trump, and clearly that is to which we're.

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Speaker 2: Seeing a bunch of It's interesting because often you see

468
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Speaker 2: these pictures, you don't really know where they come from.

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Speaker 2: And it's as you say, it's a mysterious place, especially

470
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Speaker 2: for us sitting in the middle of the Pacific, and

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Speaker 2: so we only we only get what's showing to us

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Speaker 2: and you can have a look around. But there's there's

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Speaker 2: very different pictures coming out all of a sudden, isn't

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Speaker 2: there Dallas? Just in the last twenty four forty eight hours,

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Speaker 2: there's there's images that I just haven't seen before. So

476
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Speaker 2: there's someone in there that wasn't in there before, or

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Speaker 2: there's information coming out there wasn't before.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, there wasn't much coverage yesterday of the actual hostage

479
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Speaker 10: leaving goals, So yeah, there was a bit more on

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Speaker 10: Israel side. Wasn't there when they actually arrived?

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Speaker 13: Would?

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Speaker 3: I would say, by and large, that's not an an

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Speaker 3: unusual situation, as war zones are incredibly dangerous places and

484
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Speaker 3: journalists often enter those war zones illegally or without the

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Speaker 3: permission of the government to try and get that footage,

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Speaker 3: So that's not an unusual thing. And see, and it's

487
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Speaker 3: never a good thing. But sadly, journalists do die in

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Speaker 3: war zones because they're incredibly dangerous places.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: God, the brave, aren't they.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of them are, absolutely, Yeah, and just

492
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Speaker 2: very quickly because we've got to go to the news, Dallas,

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Speaker 2: Do you think harmas will stick to their side of

494
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Speaker 2: the situation, because you know, you know, from most perspective,

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Speaker 2: it's the Palestine people that are the victims and all this.

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Speaker 2: Can you see this lasting and and everyone doing their bit?

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Speaker 10: Who knows about I mean, even if you get rid

498
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Speaker 10: of them, will another.

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Speaker 2: Group ride happening now? Isn't there? There's factions you know

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Speaker 2: fighting right now?

501
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Speaker 10: Yeah, fighting each other. It's just quite interesting. Yeah, it's

502
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Speaker 10: going to need a long international presence at that border.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. But then but then, I mean, this gets complicated.

504
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Speaker 2: We've got to go to the news. But then as

505
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Speaker 2: soon as that international force has to shoot someone, then

506
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Speaker 2: that changes everything, or it doesn't have to or does

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Speaker 2: shoot someone, because that invariably happens when you put an

508
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Speaker 2: armed force in an area. Hey, thank you so much

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Speaker 2: for you call, Dallas. Really appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Always good to share headlines with railing coming up and

511
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Speaker 3: taking more of your calls. Does Donald Trump deserve credit

512
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Speaker 3: for the ceasefire agreement? It is twenty six to two.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, ray Lean. So we are talking

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Speaker 3: about the a ceasefire agreement to the Middle East. Donald

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Speaker 3: Trump was front and center for that signing. So does

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Speaker 3: he deserve credit in your eyes?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Eight, one hundred and eighty ten.

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Speaker 2: Eighty guys, one hundred and forty eight hostages were released

539
00:27:50,653 --> 00:27:53,013
Speaker 2: before Trump even took power arrest. My case, he is

540
00:27:53,093 --> 00:27:56,253
Speaker 2: not a hero, The Sixers said Lesbie fear Trump is

541
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Speaker 2: like a broken clock. He's right at least twice a day.

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Speaker 2: Peace to Israel and Ukraine. Trump could have come to

543
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Speaker 2: the moment much earlier if he had withdrawn support for Israel.

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Speaker 2: There are serious faults on both sides and said there

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Speaker 2: will never be peace. That's from jam. Well, hopefully that's

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Speaker 2: not true. Hi, guys, a great call from Mary. I

547
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Speaker 2: totally agree with all she said. She definitely doesn't suffer

548
00:28:16,173 --> 00:28:19,333
Speaker 2: that from cognitive dissonance as those who disliked Trump do.

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Speaker 2: The brutality of the Hummus attack on Israel was really

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Speaker 2: talked about, all right, So as you would expect. There's

551
00:28:29,293 --> 00:28:32,853
Speaker 2: thoughts on both sides of this. Welcome to the show, Pete, your.

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Speaker 16: Thoughts you amen entirely like you say Mary as she

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Speaker 16: handled it, Yeah, she said it very well. I watchedly

554
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Speaker 16: watched it like she did last night as well. You've

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00:28:41,973 --> 00:28:45,413
Speaker 16: got to give Donald Trump credit here. Stop the fighting

556
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Speaker 16: now was not perfect, we all know that, but end

557
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Speaker 16: of day they got the hostages back that to ones

558
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Speaker 16: that were alive. And I think he hasn't done too

559
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Speaker 16: bad Trump. At least he's stopping things. It's like Clinton said,

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Speaker 16: you know, at least he's he's doing more than what's

561
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Speaker 16: been you know what the previous government did.

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Speaker 17: Biden.

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Speaker 16: At least Trump he's trying to stop these walls, so

564
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Speaker 16: you have to give them credit.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there is a ceasefire currently underway, so at

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Speaker 2: very least he has got a cease fire, which was

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Speaker 2: what a lot of people were calling for. Is it

568
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Speaker 2: naive to expect, after all that's happened in the area

569
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Speaker 2: over a very long period of time, that we could

570
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Speaker 2: see this being the start of something solid and a

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Speaker 2: rebuilding of Gaza and a piece in the area, lasting

572
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Speaker 2: piece in the area.

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Speaker 12: Pete, Well, that's hope.

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Speaker 16: So you know, I listened to the Whole Life broadcast

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Speaker 16: last night, and you're going to listen to watch those

576
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Speaker 16: people in that parliament there. They're all happy. They realize

577
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Speaker 16: what Trump has done. He has stopped the war, and

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Speaker 16: I think he's going to get a roll of respect

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Speaker 16: for that. You know what was you know that president

580
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Speaker 16: did from Israeli? What he wasn't right, what he was doing,

581
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Speaker 16: we all know that. But a mass they had to

582
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Speaker 16: be taught or less, and that's what he's trying to do.

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Speaker 16: And it's like they feel attract attack the Twin Towers,

584
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Speaker 16: you attack people like the United States, you're going to

585
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Speaker 16: pay for that. In some ways you sort of have

586
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Speaker 16: to stand up what they had to do.

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Speaker 2: I guess the problem with that is that some of

588
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Speaker 2: the people, and a lot of people that pay for

589
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Speaker 2: it are innocence. There's the there's the the children that

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Speaker 2: pay the price. How does that make you feel, Pepe.

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Speaker 16: Oh, it's horrible. You all know that it's not that differently,

592
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Speaker 16: that's wrong, totally wrong. But in the day, do you

593
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Speaker 16: let groups organizations like a muss carry on doing what

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Speaker 16: they're doing. They have to be taught to know there

595
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Speaker 16: is a price. Will pay that. It's sad, but there's

596
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Speaker 16: emisonial gets involved. That's that's part of conflict and it

597
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Speaker 16: no I likes conflict, but sometimes you have to deal

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Speaker 16: with those those are called nasty buggers.

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Speaker 2: Now, Pete, when I when I look at the text

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Speaker 2: machine on nine two, nine to two, it feels like

601
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Speaker 2: there's two completely separate sets of facts and two separate views,

602
00:31:09,853 --> 00:31:14,573
Speaker 2: and both sides believe what they believe. Their facts are

603
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Speaker 2: completely right on this situation. Where do you get your

604
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Speaker 2: information from? Pete?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 2: And do you do you double check the saucers? Do

607
00:31:24,093 --> 00:31:24,973
Speaker 2: you question them?

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Speaker 16: I'm watching the world news all the time, and there

609
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Speaker 16: is no such thing as a perfect situation. But as

610
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Speaker 16: I said before, you have to deal with these people.

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Speaker 16: But like putin what he's even like Trump last night,

612
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Speaker 16: how he said what he gave a Mussle ultimatum, stop

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Speaker 16: doing what you're doing or they'll move in. Basically Trump

614
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Speaker 16: warned them for that, and they knew that. Trump he

615
00:31:55,493 --> 00:31:57,933
Speaker 16: gets to a stage and he gets frustrated and he

616
00:31:58,053 --> 00:32:00,093
Speaker 16: does say what he does. He was going to go

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Speaker 16: there basically annihilate them, which wasn't also good at a

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Speaker 16: Musk knew if they didn't listen to what Trump said,

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Speaker 16: were going to get nihilated. Whatever Trump was going to

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Speaker 16: do with this military platinum bomb wasn't good. But he

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Speaker 16: said we are going to stop this, and he did

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Speaker 16: stop it.

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Speaker 2: So Pete, just to go back to my questions, So,

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Speaker 2: is there a variety of sources that you go through

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Speaker 2: for your news?

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Speaker 16: Yes, I do, I really do go through and I listen.

627
00:32:26,453 --> 00:32:29,853
Speaker 16: There's no Sometimes is always right and wrong, but sometimes

628
00:32:30,933 --> 00:32:33,493
Speaker 16: you can't always please everybody.

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Speaker 18: But a long was what the.

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Speaker 16: Outcome is going to be for the better? I think

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Speaker 16: what's happening, what happened to you say is for the better?

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Speaker 2: Yes, thank you so much for your call, Pete.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Pete. I will say, I'm just having a

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Speaker 3: look at at internal polling within Israel recently on how

635
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Speaker 3: many Israelis supported the ongoing war. And then I look

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Speaker 3: at the reputation of Benjamin Nit and Yahoo. He's a

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Speaker 3: tough person to negotiate with. So that is or should

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Speaker 3: be a bit of credit for Donald Trump to be

639
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Speaker 3: able to negotiate with someone like Benjamin and Yahoo. When

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Speaker 3: eighty one percent of the population that you lead are

641
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Speaker 3: calling for the water to continue, that's that's quite, that's

642
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Speaker 3: quite an achievement. That's an incredibly hard thing to do

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Speaker 3: when eighty percent of your population wants it to continue,

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Speaker 3: and then an outside influence says, you've got to get

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Speaker 3: a ceasefire. You've got to get credit for that a

646
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Speaker 3: little bit.

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Speaker 2: This Texas is why are they're not celebrations on the

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Speaker 2: streets of Wellington and Auckland by Gaza protesters instead of

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Speaker 2: the deathly silence. This Texas says Trump is crazy, He's

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Speaker 2: a narcissist. He's only doing this to stop people talking

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Speaker 2: about the Epstein files.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all sorts coming in.

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Speaker 2: You know, you know, I would say we're getting far

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Speaker 2: one way, far the other way, but the majority is

655
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Speaker 2: sort of down the middle on this. Yeah that you know,

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Speaker 2: they agree that that that there's something to be said

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Speaker 2: at the very least that there's a ceasefire currently right now?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely right. Nine two ninety two is the text number.

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Speaker 3: But taking your calls on oh, eight hundred and eighty

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Speaker 3: two eighty, it is accorded to have a.

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Speaker 1: Chat with the lads on eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 1: Mart Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons news Talk, sa'd.

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Speaker 3: Be afternoon plenty of teachs coming through. On nine two

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Speaker 3: nine two.

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Speaker 2: This Texas has imagined the Paul Palestinians having to live

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Speaker 2: next to Israel going forward. Well, that's been contentious both

667
00:34:26,733 --> 00:34:29,573
Speaker 2: ways for some time. Hey guys, some basic timelines. Islam

668
00:34:29,653 --> 00:34:33,613
Speaker 2: started about fourteen hundred years ago, Christianity about nineteen hundred

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Speaker 2: years ago. Judasium about Judaism about three hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: three thousand, five hundred years ago. People also forget or

671
00:34:41,653 --> 00:34:45,013
Speaker 2: don't know that Jesus was a Jew. Also, Muhammad was

672
00:34:45,093 --> 00:34:48,173
Speaker 2: quite unsuccessful starting his religion until he changed tech and

673
00:34:48,213 --> 00:34:50,413
Speaker 2: based most of the religion on the Christian Bible with

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Speaker 2: some changes. I don't have any personal view on this,

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Speaker 2: but I foind the recorded history quite interesting.

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Speaker 19: It is.

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Speaker 2: Cheers Dean, Yeah, thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: It's a good we history lesson.

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Speaker 2: This text says there will never be lasting peace while

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Speaker 2: Israel and the Jewish people exist. The Islamic jihadists will

681
00:35:06,973 --> 00:35:12,573
Speaker 2: make sure of that. You know, so many texts coming through. Peter,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. Another Peter, thank you very much.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, Well, I actually said hello. When you said hello, Pete,

684
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Speaker 20: I thought that was me, but it turns out me

685
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Speaker 20: and Peter took Pete's in a pod. Excuse the pun,

686
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Speaker 20: very good, but no, I'm calling you guys from the future.

687
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Speaker 20: Of the year is twenty thirty something or other and

688
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Speaker 20: fifty seventh President Trump Junior is currently in power. You know,

689
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Speaker 20: we we do appreciate President Trump Senior number forty eight

690
00:35:43,693 --> 00:35:46,093
Speaker 20: his you know, efforts. That would be a third term

691
00:35:46,613 --> 00:35:50,973
Speaker 20: and basically he should be given all the praise he

692
00:35:51,413 --> 00:35:52,053
Speaker 20: is looking for.

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Speaker 2: Right, So see that, I see how you've you've you've

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Speaker 2: presented that that statement the Peter, he should get all

695
00:36:01,013 --> 00:36:04,493
Speaker 2: the praise he's looking for, correct.

696
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Speaker 20: Because the end justifies the means, ask gun Tham Northrop.

697
00:36:08,733 --> 00:36:11,533
Speaker 20: Uh huh. So basically the end justifies the means.

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00:36:11,653 --> 00:36:12,253
Speaker 8: We know that.

699
00:36:14,333 --> 00:36:17,333
Speaker 20: You could dispute and you could argue, and you could

700
00:36:17,333 --> 00:36:20,253
Speaker 20: say that, well he's this and he's that, and you

701
00:36:20,253 --> 00:36:22,813
Speaker 20: should look at his history and he's just a womanizing,

702
00:36:22,973 --> 00:36:23,613
Speaker 20: terrible person.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, i'd agree with you in this example, but

704
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Speaker 3: I don't always agree that the end justifies the means,

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Speaker 3: and I can't give you a spec Yeah, but in

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Speaker 3: this example, absolutely, I think it doesn't really matter who

707
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Speaker 3: broke is the ceasefire agreement? Is that in this case,

708
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Speaker 3: it was a terrible, terrible war that many innocents were killed.

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Speaker 3: And if Donald Trump, and he clearly he did, he

710
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Speaker 3: helped broker what was quite a complex situation.

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Speaker 20: Because he could have gone the other way. I said, no,

712
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Speaker 20: I just bomb him.

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Speaker 2: Does that mean that he is on the hook? Does

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Speaker 2: does that mean Peter, he's on the hook if it

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Speaker 2: falls apart.

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Speaker 20: Absolutely, We're all responsible for our own decisions.

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Speaker 2: Very decisive.

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00:37:08,933 --> 00:37:11,173
Speaker 20: Yeah, well look you have to be because the decision

719
00:37:11,253 --> 00:37:14,213
Speaker 20: costs more than incorrect decision, because you can correct an

720
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Speaker 20: incorrect decision because the er is human and to forgive

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Speaker 20: its divine. Do you think get a bit of Latin

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Speaker 20: on you before I go right, yep, dulce at decorum

723
00:37:22,053 --> 00:37:26,693
Speaker 20: as propatoria, Maury, and I don't believe in that. But

724
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Speaker 20: those who do are willing to die for their country

725
00:37:28,973 --> 00:37:31,413
Speaker 20: because it is sweet and proper to die for your country.

726
00:37:31,853 --> 00:37:34,093
Speaker 20: But I don't believe in that. I told your producer

727
00:37:34,133 --> 00:37:36,053
Speaker 20: when he asked me what my take on it was.

728
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Speaker 20: My take is I don't like people dying. Yeah, yeah,

729
00:37:40,053 --> 00:37:41,933
Speaker 20: it takes if we've got to give them three Nobel

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Speaker 20: prizes in another term.

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Speaker 3: For the guys, thank you Peter, interesting. Cool, Yeah, whatever

732
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Speaker 3: it takes. But I mean that final point, I don't

733
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Speaker 3: like people dying. I thought i'd hope that fear minded

734
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Speaker 3: people listening. And as you talk about that middle, that's

735
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Speaker 3: what it comes down to. I don't like people dying.

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Speaker 3: Not many people like people dying. So to stop and

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Speaker 3: get this agreement and to stop the killing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there are fates, worths and death though,

739
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Speaker 2: and you know sore all these things. There's there's always

740
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Speaker 2: grand area in that. There is a lot of gray area,

741
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Speaker 2: and there's a lot of people who have given up

742
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Speaker 2: their lives for causes because they believed that they were

743
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Speaker 2: so right that their their life was worth less than

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Speaker 2: the value of the cause. I mean that's happened all

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Speaker 2: through human history.

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Speaker 3: It certainly has, Peter, thank you very much for your call. Oh,

747
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Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

748
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Speaker 3: Does Donald Trump deserve credit for helping broker the ceasefire agreement?

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Speaker 3: Love to hear your thoughts. It is eight to two.

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Speaker 1: Matt Heath Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred

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Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty. It's mad Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons

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Speaker 1: News talksb.

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Speaker 3: News Talks, zed bees, so many takes have come through

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Speaker 3: on nine to two nine to two.

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Speaker 2: This says the best thing the Nobile Committee could do

756
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Speaker 2: is tell Trump that he's not getting the Nobel Prize

757
00:38:57,773 --> 00:38:58,973
Speaker 2: until he sorts out Ukraine.

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Speaker 3: Given motivation give him from KPIs like.

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Speaker 2: That, boys, Why should the Palestinians fear living next door

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Speaker 2: to Israel? When did they war? Palestinins though educated to

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Speaker 2: hate and kill Jews from school age. That's from Dave

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Speaker 2: Hi guys. I one hundred percent agree with the first

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Speaker 2: call all news outlets in New Zealand and anti Trump

764
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Speaker 2: because their sources are left leaning. If you wann't true

765
00:39:22,173 --> 00:39:26,773
Speaker 2: and up to date news, then check out TBN TV. Okay, okay,

766
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Speaker 2: all right, good tike there yep. This text says, However,

767
00:39:29,853 --> 00:39:31,653
Speaker 2: Trump is not a hero. He did not enable the

768
00:39:31,693 --> 00:39:34,973
Speaker 2: ceasefire alone. Mounting international pressure and the hard work of

769
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Speaker 2: other Arab states have affected this result. If Trump had

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Speaker 2: ultimate power, he could have ended it last year. If

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00:39:41,453 --> 00:39:43,453
Speaker 2: he had, more hostages would have been alive today. The

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00:39:43,533 --> 00:39:48,293
Speaker 2: ceasefire won't hold either anyway. The animosity remains. Yeah, pessimistic

773
00:39:48,373 --> 00:39:54,173
Speaker 2: text there, but you know, sometimes real life is negative exactly.

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00:39:54,733 --> 00:39:57,133
Speaker 3: This one from Paul says, get a guys, if you

775
00:39:57,173 --> 00:39:59,053
Speaker 3: don't like Trump, then have a look in the mirror

776
00:39:59,133 --> 00:40:01,333
Speaker 3: at yourself and your own failings and you might change

777
00:40:01,373 --> 00:40:06,853
Speaker 3: your mind. And this one says, guys, the silence for

778
00:40:06,933 --> 00:40:09,413
Speaker 3: the Greens is deafening. And I feel sorry for Chloe.

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00:40:09,573 --> 00:40:10,772
Speaker 3: What is she going to frown about?

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Speaker 21: Now?

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00:40:11,013 --> 00:40:16,213
Speaker 2: That's from Henry. Guys, don't be naive. Israel is already

782
00:40:16,213 --> 00:40:18,373
Speaker 2: targeting other countries in the region. There will be another

783
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Speaker 2: war in the next six months.

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Speaker 3: That's depressing. Right, We're going to carry this on because

785
00:40:24,093 --> 00:40:26,732
Speaker 3: there's so many techs and so many phone calls coming through.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think we will will carry it

787
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Speaker 2: on till half past two eight.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It is just just to get every everyone's opinion out there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah nicely said so oh eight one hundred and eighty

791
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Speaker 3: ten eighty, And you better get in fast because we'll

792
00:40:36,733 --> 00:40:39,373
Speaker 3: just talk it for another half hour after the two

793
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Speaker 3: o'clock news, which is fast approaching.

794
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Speaker 2: We've got important talk about summer jobs and whale sightings

795
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Speaker 2: to get to. Okay, so we're going to get.

796
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Speaker 3: To get to the summer job. So just another halfye,

797
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Speaker 3: So come on, through oh one hundred eighty ten eighty

798
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Speaker 3: is the number to call.

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Speaker 2: Does Trump deserve credit for the current c spar fire

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Speaker 2: and the piece that is currently occurring in the a

801
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Speaker 2: Gaza situation New Sport?

802
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Speaker 3: And we we're a fast approaching. But stay right here

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Speaker 3: you're listening to and Tyler Hoe you having a great

804
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Speaker 3: Tuesday afternoon. Thanks for giving us a listen.

805
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Speaker 2: We are we're the ones with marching scars.

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Speaker 1: Talking with you all. Afternoon. It's Matt Heathan Taylor Adams

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Speaker 1: Afternoons used dogs.

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Speaker 3: It be very good afternoon, Chier, welcome back into the show.

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Speaker 3: Sevan passed too. So we've been discussing the ceasefire agreement.

810
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Speaker 3: US President Donald Trump has been receiving praise across the

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Speaker 3: board for his and his administration's efforts and helping broker

812
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Speaker 3: that deal. The agreement has been signed along with the

813
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Speaker 3: hostage exchange. Pretty incredible scenes watching those reunions of the

814
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Speaker 3: twenty Israeli hostages who are still alive. But the question

815
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Speaker 3: we've put to you is does Donald Trump deserve the credit?

816
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Speaker 2: My question I put to you Tyler as well, are

817
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Speaker 2: you puffing?

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Speaker 3: I knew you were going to bring it up. I

819
00:41:58,533 --> 00:42:01,253
Speaker 3: thought I was just trying to do my breathing, and

820
00:42:01,493 --> 00:42:03,973
Speaker 3: I thought I had it under control. So I mistimed

821
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Speaker 3: my trip to the toilet because we were you know,

822
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Speaker 3: we got the coffee and having a good chat, and

823
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Speaker 3: then I realized it was three minutes before airtime. But

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Speaker 3: I made it back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, feels good, all right. One hundred and eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 2: Does Trump deserve credits and are you willing to give

827
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Speaker 2: it to him? John says, no, he doesn't. He pulled

828
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Speaker 2: the strings with the supply of arms and AMMO to Israel.

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Speaker 2: Netanyahu is his puppet. Ninnaan, you knew he didn't. If

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Speaker 2: he didn't sign up, the tap would be turned off.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Whereas this Texas says, the stubborn ignorance of the anti

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Speaker 2: Trump is astonishing. Trump could kill cancer and they would

834
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Speaker 2: still find a problem with him. The teds is strong

835
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Speaker 2: in them. Other world leaders have said it and it

836
00:42:42,013 --> 00:42:44,613
Speaker 2: couldn't happen without Trump. Yet all these people think they

837
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Speaker 2: know best is if they are there in the meeting.

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Speaker 3: Keep those teachs coming through.

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Speaker 2: On nine two ninety two, Anthony, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, hey gents, Yeah, just before we had a few

841
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Speaker 21: people talking about how a master terrorists and I would

842
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Speaker 21: just like to point out that there really are terrorists

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Speaker 21: on both sides here. It just seems to be going

844
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Speaker 21: one side with the arguments being made. For example, Netanyahu

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Speaker 21: told Israeli journalist Dan Moroglitz in twenty twelve that it

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Speaker 21: was important to keep himas strong as a counselweight to

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Speaker 21: the Perlison and authority in the West Bank, that having

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Speaker 21: two strong rivals, including the mass wouldless and pressure on

849
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Speaker 21: Humpton negotiate towards the Paladian state. LACUDE member, this is

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Speaker 21: a party that's in charge right now that never know

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Speaker 21: who is a part of. Vattori said that there are

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Speaker 21: no innocence there. Gaza must be wiped off the face

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Speaker 21: of the earth. I have no mercy for anyone there.

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Speaker 21: We need to eliminate them. Mirror of ben Ahti another.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you're just reading stuff. What's your So, what's your

856
00:43:34,053 --> 00:43:37,573
Speaker 2: opinion on this? Do you think Trump deserves it credit

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Speaker 2: for the ceasefire at all? Anthony?

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Speaker 8: Uh?

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Speaker 21: Yeah, I do think Trump deserve credit. Isn't a unique

860
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Speaker 21: position to be able to do this because he's both

861
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Speaker 21: loved and hated by everyone, And I think I think

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Speaker 21: it puts he's in a situation that he's created essentially

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00:43:52,933 --> 00:43:54,973
Speaker 21: a no way out thing for a mass and they've

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Speaker 21: had to agree to it.

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Speaker 20: Is it going to last?

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Speaker 11: Is it going to be good?

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Speaker 8: I don't know.

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Speaker 11: What do you think?

869
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Speaker 2: What do you think the biggest challenges for it to last? Anthony?

870
00:44:06,133 --> 00:44:07,933
Speaker 21: Well, as I said, there's terrosts on both sides, it's

871
00:44:07,973 --> 00:44:10,333
Speaker 21: just only one I has talked about. And I believe that.

872
00:44:10,773 --> 00:44:14,893
Speaker 21: I believe that the deal for Hamas or the Palaestinian people,

873
00:44:14,893 --> 00:44:17,573
Speaker 21: which is more important, isn't exactly great because they have

874
00:44:17,653 --> 00:44:19,893
Speaker 21: to accept a solution where other people get to control

875
00:44:19,933 --> 00:44:21,652
Speaker 21: the Gaza strip, they get to board real estate there.

876
00:44:21,653 --> 00:44:23,893
Speaker 21: There is a massive ongoing project there. Is that going

877
00:44:23,973 --> 00:44:25,653
Speaker 21: to go without any any troubles?

878
00:44:25,853 --> 00:44:26,373
Speaker 4: I guess not.

879
00:44:27,333 --> 00:44:29,813
Speaker 21: And I also assume that there is going to be

880
00:44:30,253 --> 00:44:31,733
Speaker 21: be a lot of pushback in that area and they

881
00:44:31,813 --> 00:44:35,093
Speaker 21: might not even let the Palestinian people back in. So yeah,

882
00:44:35,133 --> 00:44:36,813
Speaker 21: there's a there's a lot of questions here, and I

883
00:44:36,893 --> 00:44:38,973
Speaker 21: think there's a big leap of prase.

884
00:44:39,093 --> 00:44:43,212
Speaker 2: Isn't a return of the Palaestine people is a part

885
00:44:43,293 --> 00:44:46,613
Speaker 2: of the twenty piece plan? So as far as that

886
00:44:46,693 --> 00:44:50,493
Speaker 2: plan stands now, anyone that's left can return.

887
00:44:51,413 --> 00:44:53,333
Speaker 21: Yep, that's right, but they'll be returning to rubble and

888
00:44:53,453 --> 00:44:56,053
Speaker 21: nothing to buy or eat. So there is going to

889
00:44:56,053 --> 00:44:59,333
Speaker 21: be a massive real estate project going on, that massive rebuild.

890
00:44:59,373 --> 00:45:02,253
Speaker 2: Do you think that the Palestinine people and har mas

891
00:45:02,733 --> 00:45:05,333
Speaker 2: are on the same page. Do you think that the

892
00:45:05,413 --> 00:45:08,653
Speaker 2: Palestine people will be able to reject harmas or do

893
00:45:08,693 --> 00:45:10,973
Speaker 2: you think that it's that it's one and the same.

894
00:45:11,893 --> 00:45:13,692
Speaker 21: Well, this is the interesting argument made by the call

895
00:45:13,773 --> 00:45:15,213
Speaker 21: before which I did want to address, is that she

896
00:45:15,373 --> 00:45:18,853
Speaker 21: said the people of the mass voted, the people of

897
00:45:18,893 --> 00:45:21,253
Speaker 21: Pealestine Voterafi Masks, therefore they kind of deserve what they get,

898
00:45:21,333 --> 00:45:22,973
Speaker 21: or that they're a part of it, they're complicit. I

899
00:45:23,013 --> 00:45:25,653
Speaker 21: would argue that our governments, or especially the US government,

900
00:45:25,693 --> 00:45:28,573
Speaker 21: got into meaningless wars in Iraq, in Afghanistan where.

901
00:45:28,493 --> 00:45:30,293
Speaker 2: Millions of people have died, and that's true.

902
00:45:30,373 --> 00:45:32,853
Speaker 21: Are the people of the US now responsible for their government?

903
00:45:33,133 --> 00:45:35,013
Speaker 21: I mean, maybe an argument can be made, but I'm

904
00:45:35,053 --> 00:45:37,133
Speaker 21: sure she wouldn't make that argument. I think you can

905
00:45:37,253 --> 00:45:39,693
Speaker 21: separate the people even if they make bad decisions and

906
00:45:39,933 --> 00:45:42,173
Speaker 21: voting the wrong governments. These are cap of people that

907
00:45:42,293 --> 00:45:45,573
Speaker 21: they've been hold hostage in the state where they can't

908
00:45:45,653 --> 00:45:48,053
Speaker 21: use their waterways, they can't get out, they can't vote

909
00:45:49,053 --> 00:45:51,772
Speaker 21: for foreign Israeli government who they're captured by their second

910
00:45:51,773 --> 00:45:54,133
Speaker 21: class citizens and a land that they were in for

911
00:45:54,413 --> 00:45:55,093
Speaker 21: hundreds of years.

912
00:45:55,253 --> 00:45:56,133
Speaker 5: Do you agree?

913
00:45:56,173 --> 00:45:57,933
Speaker 2: Do you agree the other way as well, that the

914
00:45:58,213 --> 00:46:03,533
Speaker 2: Israeli people aren't responsible and shouldn't be blamed for what

915
00:46:03,773 --> 00:46:06,933
Speaker 2: the Israeli government is doing. You know, for example, people

916
00:46:06,973 --> 00:46:10,692
Speaker 2: that are protesting various Israeli sports teams around around the world.

917
00:46:12,013 --> 00:46:13,733
Speaker 21: Well, I actually think I actually agree with her that

918
00:46:14,093 --> 00:46:16,692
Speaker 21: people of Palostino compass, but they also believe that people

919
00:46:16,733 --> 00:46:19,053
Speaker 21: of Israel complicit. Does that mean that the children should

920
00:46:19,053 --> 00:46:19,773
Speaker 21: be dead and burned and.

921
00:46:19,813 --> 00:46:24,693
Speaker 2: Rubble, Well, no one wants children dead and burdened rubble.

922
00:46:26,693 --> 00:46:29,652
Speaker 21: Because she said the people the Palestinians are born, therefore

923
00:46:29,653 --> 00:46:30,853
Speaker 21: they kind of don't.

924
00:46:30,853 --> 00:46:32,373
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if she was as

925
00:46:32,413 --> 00:46:36,813
Speaker 2: black and white about it that as that, but yeah,

926
00:46:36,893 --> 00:46:39,212
Speaker 2: I mean, but but I mean it sort of does

927
00:46:39,333 --> 00:46:43,453
Speaker 2: raise that problem of of going forward because you know

928
00:46:43,613 --> 00:46:46,133
Speaker 2: how you know, if hamas can't be any part of it,

929
00:46:46,653 --> 00:46:48,732
Speaker 2: which which is what everyone's saying, that that hummus can't

930
00:46:48,733 --> 00:46:50,933
Speaker 2: be any part of the leadership that you know that's

931
00:46:50,973 --> 00:46:53,253
Speaker 2: part of the peace deal, right, the twenty point piece deal.

932
00:46:53,733 --> 00:46:54,053
Speaker 6: So so.

933
00:46:55,533 --> 00:46:58,813
Speaker 2: You know, but Hamas are people that live in Gaza,

934
00:46:58,933 --> 00:47:01,053
Speaker 2: and they're they're very powerful organization and there's a lot

935
00:47:01,093 --> 00:47:03,093
Speaker 2: of them, right, So do you think that that is

936
00:47:03,173 --> 00:47:06,453
Speaker 2: going to be possible for the would you think they'll

937
00:47:06,533 --> 00:47:09,253
Speaker 2: just they'll just step back and go, Okay, that's cool,

938
00:47:09,333 --> 00:47:12,413
Speaker 2: coming build stuff, let's let's go. This seems this seems great,

939
00:47:12,533 --> 00:47:15,652
Speaker 2: and then just and just step back and hand over power.

940
00:47:16,853 --> 00:47:18,053
Speaker 20: Well, I think we'll have to wait and see on

941
00:47:18,133 --> 00:47:18,413
Speaker 20: that front.

942
00:47:18,453 --> 00:47:20,373
Speaker 21: But I think anyone that causes any disruption will be

943
00:47:20,453 --> 00:47:22,133
Speaker 21: call to Mars and or be a reason for Israel

944
00:47:22,213 --> 00:47:24,413
Speaker 21: to not go through with the agreement. So I think

945
00:47:24,613 --> 00:47:26,253
Speaker 21: whether it's a US or not, there are a lot

946
00:47:26,293 --> 00:47:29,133
Speaker 21: of discribed people in the Gaza strip. I mean, they've

947
00:47:29,133 --> 00:47:31,693
Speaker 21: had their families called. If they have a bit of pushback,

948
00:47:31,693 --> 00:47:32,653
Speaker 21: I wouldn't be surprised.

949
00:47:32,813 --> 00:47:34,373
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean, I mean that's where that's where

950
00:47:34,693 --> 00:47:39,093
Speaker 2: everyone's hearts. And I've got to be with with innocent

951
00:47:39,173 --> 00:47:41,293
Speaker 2: people in these situations that have no power and have

952
00:47:41,573 --> 00:47:46,413
Speaker 2: have no agency, And that's the terrible thing about war,

953
00:47:47,213 --> 00:47:49,973
Speaker 2: So I mean you've got to start some Yeah, I mean,

954
00:47:50,333 --> 00:47:53,213
Speaker 2: are you hopeful that there is at some point? Is

955
00:47:53,253 --> 00:47:55,013
Speaker 2: this the start? At some point you would hope that

956
00:47:55,093 --> 00:47:59,293
Speaker 2: they these these people catch a break. Are you hopeful

957
00:47:59,333 --> 00:48:01,692
Speaker 2: that this might be the chance for them to catch

958
00:48:01,893 --> 00:48:04,893
Speaker 2: catch that break and you know, start building at your

959
00:48:04,973 --> 00:48:05,613
Speaker 2: proper lives?

960
00:48:06,973 --> 00:48:07,133
Speaker 7: Well?

961
00:48:07,213 --> 00:48:09,013
Speaker 21: Yeah, I mean, I mean, I'm as hopeful as you

962
00:48:09,053 --> 00:48:10,813
Speaker 21: can be in a situation where I don't think I

963
00:48:11,053 --> 00:48:13,253
Speaker 21: think there are any good options. I mean, lacud, we're

964
00:48:13,293 --> 00:48:15,173
Speaker 21: never going to give that the Palaestinians the state. So

965
00:48:15,293 --> 00:48:16,613
Speaker 21: for the Trump, We're coming and do the Still it

966
00:48:16,773 --> 00:48:18,693
Speaker 21: was really the only option on the table, and I

967
00:48:18,773 --> 00:48:21,333
Speaker 21: guess I guess everyone's interest should be for praying of

968
00:48:21,413 --> 00:48:22,333
Speaker 21: the situation and hoping that.

969
00:48:22,373 --> 00:48:22,893
Speaker 20: It works out.

970
00:48:23,213 --> 00:48:24,653
Speaker 2: He will thank you so much for your call, Anthony.

971
00:48:24,773 --> 00:48:26,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, good cal Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty

972
00:48:26,813 --> 00:48:29,253
Speaker 3: is the number two call. Do you think Donald Trump

973
00:48:29,293 --> 00:48:32,493
Speaker 3: does he deserves credit for helping broker the ceasefire agreement?

974
00:48:32,573 --> 00:48:33,573
Speaker 3: Love to get your thoughts.

975
00:48:34,213 --> 00:48:37,093
Speaker 2: The Six's boys. Don't forget Palestinians had control of Gaza stripping,

976
00:48:37,093 --> 00:48:39,613
Speaker 2: instead used it for TIRA billions in aid used to

977
00:48:39,653 --> 00:48:42,053
Speaker 2: build five hundred kilometers of underground tunnels greater than the

978
00:48:42,093 --> 00:48:44,973
Speaker 2: London underground. There needs to be an inquiry and to

979
00:48:45,053 --> 00:48:49,213
Speaker 2: the UN, and then the organization needs to go. Okay, okay,

980
00:48:49,253 --> 00:48:51,813
Speaker 2: well that's that's outside of the remit of this discussion.

981
00:48:51,853 --> 00:48:53,133
Speaker 2: Whether we shut down the UN.

982
00:48:53,493 --> 00:48:55,732
Speaker 3: Keep there those teas coming in though nineteen nine too

983
00:48:55,773 --> 00:48:57,173
Speaker 3: it is fortey bus too.

984
00:48:57,093 --> 00:48:59,213
Speaker 2: With a WII as if we have any sale with it.

985
00:48:59,853 --> 00:49:02,493
Speaker 2: I finally with a Matt and Tyler afternoon, So news

986
00:49:02,573 --> 00:49:04,773
Speaker 2: took ZB shuts down the UN or.

987
00:49:04,813 --> 00:49:09,973
Speaker 1: Not your home of afternoon tour mad Heathen Tyler Adams

988
00:49:10,133 --> 00:49:13,813
Speaker 1: afternoons call eight hundred eighty eighty youth talk s.

989
00:49:15,813 --> 00:49:17,772
Speaker 3: Afternoon. It is seventeen past two.

990
00:49:18,133 --> 00:49:20,333
Speaker 2: Sean says, how long do you think before the Trump

991
00:49:20,533 --> 00:49:24,373
Speaker 2: gaza plaza opens full drift from the Orange Man says

992
00:49:24,893 --> 00:49:26,613
Speaker 2: we'll wait and see on that. One think that would be.

993
00:49:27,813 --> 00:49:29,933
Speaker 2: But I mean that's almost a banks he like painting,

994
00:49:30,013 --> 00:49:30,253
Speaker 2: isn't it?

995
00:49:30,413 --> 00:49:30,533
Speaker 11: Yes?

996
00:49:31,053 --> 00:49:34,413
Speaker 2: Is Trump is a dangerous nutcase that is going to

997
00:49:34,453 --> 00:49:38,053
Speaker 2: facilitate a third World Okay, I mean, oh, I think

998
00:49:38,093 --> 00:49:41,093
Speaker 2: that means a third World war? Ah right, a third World? Yeah,

999
00:49:41,133 --> 00:49:42,573
Speaker 2: third World war? Yeh okay, thank you for that.

1000
00:49:42,773 --> 00:49:42,853
Speaker 8: Hi.

1001
00:49:42,973 --> 00:49:45,413
Speaker 2: Guys, Trump does deserve all the credit. Doesn't matter what

1002
00:49:45,533 --> 00:49:48,013
Speaker 2: he does, the lefty losers always find something to say

1003
00:49:48,053 --> 00:49:52,173
Speaker 2: against him. Go Trump. That's from Shane. Keep him coming in, Richard,

1004
00:49:52,693 --> 00:49:54,053
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

1005
00:49:55,173 --> 00:49:55,293
Speaker 21: Hi.

1006
00:49:55,533 --> 00:50:00,133
Speaker 17: I listening to sharl and I thought I've been listening

1007
00:50:00,173 --> 00:50:02,613
Speaker 17: to last few callers, and I thought I'll probably give

1008
00:50:02,653 --> 00:50:03,373
Speaker 17: my view as well.

1009
00:50:03,693 --> 00:50:08,252
Speaker 2: Oh good, that's exactly why we've clicked on to your phone.

1010
00:50:09,293 --> 00:50:11,573
Speaker 2: Let them come out right, that's why we're talking to you. Richard.

1011
00:50:11,613 --> 00:50:12,213
Speaker 2: What's your opinion?

1012
00:50:13,413 --> 00:50:16,373
Speaker 17: Well, I think from my point of view, I think

1013
00:50:16,493 --> 00:50:18,172
Speaker 17: what he's done is I know a lot of people

1014
00:50:18,293 --> 00:50:21,133
Speaker 17: talk active about Donald Trump, and there's a lot of

1015
00:50:21,173 --> 00:50:22,573
Speaker 17: people talk possible about.

1016
00:50:22,453 --> 00:50:22,933
Speaker 16: Him as well.

1017
00:50:23,373 --> 00:50:25,533
Speaker 17: But I think now what what he's done, and what

1018
00:50:25,693 --> 00:50:27,293
Speaker 17: is done in the Middle East, and what is done

1019
00:50:27,333 --> 00:50:30,133
Speaker 17: for the Israeli people and for the Guardens who've been

1020
00:50:30,173 --> 00:50:33,493
Speaker 17: suffering over there for many, many, many years. I think

1021
00:50:33,533 --> 00:50:36,053
Speaker 17: what he's done is a is a great work, and

1022
00:50:36,133 --> 00:50:38,013
Speaker 17: I think you should be given a full credit for

1023
00:50:38,133 --> 00:50:39,973
Speaker 17: what is what he deserves.

1024
00:50:40,013 --> 00:50:43,293
Speaker 2: I think, you know, do you think that it's realistic

1025
00:50:43,533 --> 00:50:47,453
Speaker 2: that this cease fire will last and the rebuilding of

1026
00:50:47,893 --> 00:50:51,093
Speaker 2: Gaza and a proper future can can can begin.

1027
00:50:51,333 --> 00:50:58,172
Speaker 17: Richard, Well, I think it should hold. But it all

1028
00:50:58,293 --> 00:51:01,733
Speaker 17: depends of it all depends of all the things on

1029
00:51:01,853 --> 00:51:05,093
Speaker 17: the contract which they had assigned. And there's a lot

1030
00:51:05,133 --> 00:51:07,772
Speaker 17: of things. I was I was there just a few

1031
00:51:08,013 --> 00:51:10,293
Speaker 17: few a few days ago, and there's a lot of

1032
00:51:10,413 --> 00:51:13,853
Speaker 17: things which is in the in the documentation. Uh, if

1033
00:51:14,013 --> 00:51:16,213
Speaker 17: those are implemented and then it should be okay. But

1034
00:51:16,493 --> 00:51:19,333
Speaker 17: from the last time I've seen is that one of

1035
00:51:19,373 --> 00:51:22,732
Speaker 17: the things which they required the Trumpet administration and as

1036
00:51:22,773 --> 00:51:25,133
Speaker 17: well is Head put in there that they need to

1037
00:51:25,173 --> 00:51:28,413
Speaker 17: put their guns down. And I think if the hammers

1038
00:51:28,573 --> 00:51:31,333
Speaker 17: are still there, if they allowed still there with their

1039
00:51:31,373 --> 00:51:33,333
Speaker 17: guns in their hands, I think that's going to be

1040
00:51:33,413 --> 00:51:35,813
Speaker 17: a problem. And I think that that's not going to

1041
00:51:35,853 --> 00:51:39,813
Speaker 17: bring any peace in there. And how fully hopefully they

1042
00:51:39,853 --> 00:51:43,053
Speaker 17: will put the guns down. And you know it's always

1043
00:51:43,133 --> 00:51:46,013
Speaker 17: up and down. You know, you win, sometimes you lose something.

1044
00:51:46,093 --> 00:51:47,853
Speaker 17: But I think now is the time they should all

1045
00:51:48,213 --> 00:51:51,253
Speaker 17: forget about the past and just look forward for a

1046
00:51:51,333 --> 00:51:55,133
Speaker 17: piece and then just have a stable Middle East, which

1047
00:51:55,773 --> 00:51:57,333
Speaker 17: which hasn't been there for a long time.

1048
00:51:57,613 --> 00:52:01,453
Speaker 2: But did you say you've just been over there, Yes,

1049
00:52:01,933 --> 00:52:02,493
Speaker 2: I was there.

1050
00:52:02,413 --> 00:52:07,693
Speaker 17: In Washington this Virginia. I actually lended the day. I

1051
00:52:07,773 --> 00:52:10,373
Speaker 17: don't know Trump Peter called the National Guards to come

1052
00:52:10,453 --> 00:52:13,133
Speaker 17: and take over the police station in Washington, d C.

1053
00:52:13,333 --> 00:52:17,453
Speaker 17: And I was there in Virginia, then Philadelphia, the New

1054
00:52:17,533 --> 00:52:18,013
Speaker 17: York City.

1055
00:52:18,773 --> 00:52:18,893
Speaker 22: Uh.

1056
00:52:19,413 --> 00:52:25,212
Speaker 17: Then I went to Las Vegas, La Nevada and Beverly Hills,

1057
00:52:25,293 --> 00:52:29,813
Speaker 17: so troubled quite a lot. And to be honest, I've

1058
00:52:30,053 --> 00:52:33,253
Speaker 17: been there before in previous years. But for what I've

1059
00:52:33,293 --> 00:52:35,773
Speaker 17: seen this timer, by going to d C and uh,

1060
00:52:36,093 --> 00:52:39,493
Speaker 17: it's the city is safer. As I was listening to

1061
00:52:39,573 --> 00:52:42,453
Speaker 17: the news where the Canadian Prime Minister I was having

1062
00:52:42,493 --> 00:52:44,453
Speaker 17: an interview with the Donald Shop and they were talking

1063
00:52:44,453 --> 00:52:47,053
Speaker 17: about a lot of Canadians and a lot of foreign

1064
00:52:47,493 --> 00:52:49,253
Speaker 17: tourists being killed in d C.

1065
00:52:50,253 --> 00:52:50,373
Speaker 21: Uh.

1066
00:52:50,733 --> 00:52:54,692
Speaker 17: And from what I've seen a lot, I'm not I'm

1067
00:52:54,733 --> 00:52:56,933
Speaker 17: not talking about the media over here, but the media

1068
00:52:57,053 --> 00:53:00,453
Speaker 17: from overseas. They've been portraying America is a big place

1069
00:53:00,533 --> 00:53:02,173
Speaker 17: to visit, a dangerous place to go.

1070
00:53:02,933 --> 00:53:03,053
Speaker 20: Uh.

1071
00:53:03,213 --> 00:53:05,653
Speaker 17: And they've been saying that there's a lot of issues

1072
00:53:05,693 --> 00:53:08,813
Speaker 17: on the border and when you're into America. But I'm

1073
00:53:08,893 --> 00:53:12,453
Speaker 17: telling you this is all bullshit. Been there a number

1074
00:53:12,493 --> 00:53:15,093
Speaker 17: of times you know, been there just not long ago.

1075
00:53:15,333 --> 00:53:16,973
Speaker 17: As I said, I'd just come a few days ago,

1076
00:53:17,413 --> 00:53:22,333
Speaker 17: and I absolutely had no trouble going there and no problems.

1077
00:53:22,613 --> 00:53:26,293
Speaker 17: Everything was just normal, and DC City was the town

1078
00:53:26,373 --> 00:53:31,493
Speaker 17: itself was very nice and clean, absolutely stunning, and a

1079
00:53:31,693 --> 00:53:34,893
Speaker 17: very safe work at nights, you know, and people say, oh,

1080
00:53:35,013 --> 00:53:38,692
Speaker 17: you can't carry a wallet, your phones and opening ship,

1081
00:53:38,733 --> 00:53:40,813
Speaker 17: but you know your chain's going to be rid of

1082
00:53:41,013 --> 00:53:43,413
Speaker 17: nothing like that. To know it was, I was very safe.

1083
00:53:43,773 --> 00:53:46,373
Speaker 17: At no time I had a fear that I was

1084
00:53:46,453 --> 00:53:48,253
Speaker 17: going to be a tacked or there's something danger is

1085
00:53:48,293 --> 00:53:49,093
Speaker 17: going to happen over here.

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00:53:49,173 --> 00:53:51,413
Speaker 2: And do you create Trump for sitting in the National

1087
00:53:51,453 --> 00:53:54,453
Speaker 2: Guard for that situation or do you think that just

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00:53:54,613 --> 00:53:57,333
Speaker 2: America is generally a reasonably safe place.

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00:53:58,653 --> 00:53:59,813
Speaker 5: I would say that.

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Speaker 17: I mean, if you compare ourselves to America, America is

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00:54:02,493 --> 00:54:04,493
Speaker 17: quite a big place. So I think what he's done

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00:54:04,613 --> 00:54:06,613
Speaker 17: is there's a lot of other things happening, you know,

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00:54:06,773 --> 00:54:10,173
Speaker 17: like if you'd see they're like Chicago, where there's lots

1094
00:54:10,213 --> 00:54:12,093
Speaker 17: of things going on there and a lot of people

1095
00:54:12,133 --> 00:54:15,333
Speaker 17: are getting killed over there. And if you he's talking

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00:54:15,373 --> 00:54:18,093
Speaker 17: about I've here in the news that the American and

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00:54:18,133 --> 00:54:20,813
Speaker 17: the Canady Parmi Store were talking about Blatimore. I was

1098
00:54:20,853 --> 00:54:24,093
Speaker 17: there as well, and I've been to the worst streets

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00:54:24,173 --> 00:54:27,173
Speaker 17: in Blackimore just when I was there, not longer, and

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00:54:27,533 --> 00:54:30,813
Speaker 17: and I I totally understand where he's coming from. And

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00:54:30,973 --> 00:54:33,973
Speaker 17: why does he get these national guards to be on

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00:54:34,053 --> 00:54:36,893
Speaker 17: this just to be on the safe side, just indicate it,

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00:54:37,373 --> 00:54:40,773
Speaker 17: you know, something turns out to Salah, so as far

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00:54:40,813 --> 00:54:43,733
Speaker 17: as the cities are concerned, And even in Blackimore, I

1105
00:54:43,933 --> 00:54:46,053
Speaker 17: was there like about a good four or five hours

1106
00:54:46,133 --> 00:54:49,013
Speaker 17: and I right in the waterfront, but if you go

1107
00:54:49,133 --> 00:54:52,373
Speaker 17: on the back streets, it's it's really really bad. And

1108
00:54:52,453 --> 00:54:55,813
Speaker 17: I think what he's doing is he's cleaning up and

1109
00:54:55,973 --> 00:54:58,773
Speaker 17: not and I think America needed someone like him to

1110
00:54:58,893 --> 00:55:00,813
Speaker 17: just come there and clean it all up. And that

1111
00:55:00,973 --> 00:55:04,533
Speaker 17: is what he's doing. And places like Blatimore, Chicago where

1112
00:55:04,613 --> 00:55:08,893
Speaker 17: the crimes had been really really high, and he's all

1113
00:55:08,973 --> 00:55:11,773
Speaker 17: his best to get it all done. And if you

1114
00:55:11,853 --> 00:55:14,533
Speaker 17: look at it, whether it's going to be him or anyone,

1115
00:55:14,613 --> 00:55:17,813
Speaker 17: any promise though any person and who comes in I think,

1116
00:55:18,333 --> 00:55:20,613
Speaker 17: I mean, if they're not one of those who wants

1117
00:55:20,653 --> 00:55:23,413
Speaker 17: to fill the pocket, they will always want to work

1118
00:55:23,453 --> 00:55:26,053
Speaker 17: in the best interest for his people, his country, and

1119
00:55:26,133 --> 00:55:27,333
Speaker 17: I think that is what he's doing.

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Speaker 2: Whither you go, so Richard good to get there perspective

1121
00:55:30,573 --> 00:55:33,373
Speaker 2: throat of support for Trumpy? Well you think, oh, eight

1122
00:55:33,453 --> 00:55:37,533
Speaker 2: hundred eighteen eighty does he deserve credit for well you

1123
00:55:37,573 --> 00:55:42,653
Speaker 2: know there we are moving on to internal American situation.

1124
00:55:42,773 --> 00:55:46,253
Speaker 2: But does he deserve credit for this ceasefire in the

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00:55:46,573 --> 00:55:47,533
Speaker 2: Middle East?

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Speaker 3: Give us a bar z O eight one hundred eighty

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00:55:49,293 --> 00:55:51,093
Speaker 3: ten eighty is number to call. Ninety two niney two

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00:55:51,253 --> 00:55:53,533
Speaker 3: is the text number. It's twenty three past two.

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Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh, eight hundred

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00:56:01,573 --> 00:56:03,813
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on youth talk sedby.

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00:56:03,853 --> 00:56:06,692
Speaker 3: Very good afternoon. She it is twenty six past two.

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00:56:06,813 --> 00:56:09,893
Speaker 3: Does Donald Trump deserve credit? Falbing Broker the ceasefire in

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00:56:09,933 --> 00:56:12,252
Speaker 3: the Middle East? A whole bunch of techs come.

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00:56:12,173 --> 00:56:14,333
Speaker 2: Through, Hi guys. One of the releast hostages says that

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00:56:14,373 --> 00:56:17,213
Speaker 2: when his captors realized that Trump was doing well in

1136
00:56:17,293 --> 00:56:19,653
Speaker 2: the polls for the US election, they were very concerned.

1137
00:56:19,693 --> 00:56:22,093
Speaker 2: They wanted Kamala Harris to win, and as soon as

1138
00:56:22,133 --> 00:56:24,573
Speaker 2: Trump got in they started treating him better, gave him

1139
00:56:24,613 --> 00:56:27,253
Speaker 2: more food, and stopped spitting on him. They knew he

1140
00:56:27,413 --> 00:56:30,172
Speaker 2: was a great supporter of the Jewish people, unlike the Democrats.

1141
00:56:30,253 --> 00:56:34,533
Speaker 2: That's from viv This sex says Trump has long wanted

1142
00:56:34,573 --> 00:56:36,933
Speaker 2: to sort the Israeli war out. He wants to control

1143
00:56:37,013 --> 00:56:40,213
Speaker 2: Gaza and wants to build his Rivi era in Gaza.

1144
00:56:40,453 --> 00:56:42,933
Speaker 2: He only has his self interest in mind. The freedom

1145
00:56:42,973 --> 00:56:46,773
Speaker 2: of the hostage makes him look good and strokes his ego.

1146
00:56:47,333 --> 00:56:49,253
Speaker 2: I thank you for that text, Tony.

1147
00:56:51,413 --> 00:56:54,173
Speaker 8: Oh well, Johnny, just.

1148
00:56:56,213 --> 00:56:58,853
Speaker 7: What people do with these pros bumps to the people,

1149
00:56:59,213 --> 00:57:03,373
Speaker 7: a little charging and carrying on and really make it

1150
00:57:03,453 --> 00:57:07,573
Speaker 7: lofe uncomfortable for people all over the place. They've got

1151
00:57:07,613 --> 00:57:10,853
Speaker 7: to remember that we don't want to have started Who

1152
00:57:10,973 --> 00:57:14,573
Speaker 7: started it and who shouted babies that a dozen babies

1153
00:57:14,613 --> 00:57:17,693
Speaker 7: and cots with thoughts when they've broke into the cabats,

1154
00:57:18,613 --> 00:57:21,933
Speaker 7: as well as shooting other people. People forget that. But

1155
00:57:22,773 --> 00:57:26,173
Speaker 7: the objective was obviously to get these hostages back. And

1156
00:57:26,773 --> 00:57:29,573
Speaker 7: I never thought I'd die it, but good old Donald

1157
00:57:29,573 --> 00:57:30,173
Speaker 7: Trump he did.

1158
00:57:30,253 --> 00:57:30,453
Speaker 22: Well.

1159
00:57:31,253 --> 00:57:33,533
Speaker 2: So have you been are you? Are you, broadly speaking,

1160
00:57:33,733 --> 00:57:36,853
Speaker 2: a supporter of Donald Trump? Or are you someone that's

1161
00:57:36,853 --> 00:57:41,813
Speaker 2: begrudgingly giving Donald Trump credit for the situation I wouldn't.

1162
00:57:41,613 --> 00:57:44,813
Speaker 7: Term and we use the terminology begrudgingly. I think he

1163
00:57:45,293 --> 00:57:48,493
Speaker 7: doesn't matter what was rhetoric, because if he whoever's in

1164
00:57:48,613 --> 00:57:51,813
Speaker 7: charge of any country that gets a job done like

1165
00:57:51,973 --> 00:57:53,893
Speaker 7: he has done. And when these other hand riggers in

1166
00:57:53,933 --> 00:57:57,693
Speaker 7: the European come on market, they just didn't have any

1167
00:57:57,773 --> 00:58:00,733
Speaker 7: idea what to do. But he pressed on and he's

1168
00:58:00,773 --> 00:58:01,493
Speaker 7: got the results.

1169
00:58:02,253 --> 00:58:05,253
Speaker 3: Can you accept or do you believe that this was

1170
00:58:05,413 --> 00:58:08,053
Speaker 3: quite a complex deal to get across the line for

1171
00:58:08,413 --> 00:58:11,613
Speaker 3: administration and the you know, the other nations that they

1172
00:58:11,693 --> 00:58:13,453
Speaker 3: brought into this. Do you think it was quite a

1173
00:58:13,533 --> 00:58:15,613
Speaker 3: complex operation to get this across the line?

1174
00:58:16,533 --> 00:58:18,813
Speaker 7: Well, with that doubt, and you got Kuta, Turkey and

1175
00:58:19,333 --> 00:58:21,453
Speaker 7: a couple of other countries. And I think a lot

1176
00:58:21,493 --> 00:58:25,093
Speaker 7: of people forget his team too. They'll work tirelessly once

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00:58:25,133 --> 00:58:27,253
Speaker 7: and the other Secretary of State and the other three guys,

1178
00:58:27,293 --> 00:58:30,613
Speaker 7: even the Kennedy going. You know, there was heaps of

1179
00:58:30,653 --> 00:58:33,053
Speaker 7: them that it really worked hard to get the still going.

1180
00:58:33,333 --> 00:58:36,653
Speaker 7: And it's no wonder this well you'd have to acknowledge

1181
00:58:36,693 --> 00:58:39,293
Speaker 7: it to you. It's a lot of Trump has got

1182
00:58:39,733 --> 00:58:41,253
Speaker 7: a hero's welcome in his role.

1183
00:58:42,613 --> 00:58:45,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely absolutely, I mean there is obviously seeing those

1184
00:58:46,013 --> 00:58:50,653
Speaker 3: image images of the hostages reuniting with their family, you

1185
00:58:50,813 --> 00:58:53,973
Speaker 3: can't help but see what a poignant moment that is.

1186
00:58:54,253 --> 00:58:57,013
Speaker 3: And on the other side as well, with the Palestinians release,

1187
00:58:57,133 --> 00:58:58,093
Speaker 3: do you think it will.

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00:58:57,973 --> 00:59:03,253
Speaker 7: Last the still if they keep their nose out of guards, well,

1189
00:59:03,293 --> 00:59:05,973
Speaker 7: because they're gonna You're heard on the news earlier on,

1190
00:59:07,453 --> 00:59:09,213
Speaker 7: it was just a matter of before those happened. In

1191
00:59:09,213 --> 00:59:11,493
Speaker 7: the Israeli has moved out of Gaza. But all these

1192
00:59:11,573 --> 00:59:14,293
Speaker 7: fractions are fighting amongst themselves. Now this game is setting up,

1193
00:59:14,333 --> 00:59:16,493
Speaker 7: so let them take care of themselves and them treat

1194
00:59:16,533 --> 00:59:19,253
Speaker 7: each other up. They don't need his roll anymore because

1195
00:59:19,253 --> 00:59:22,253
Speaker 7: they go to these factions are going to do it.

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00:59:22,573 --> 00:59:24,213
Speaker 7: Do it for the Israelis. They're going to you know,

1197
00:59:24,693 --> 00:59:26,333
Speaker 7: it's going to be gettings everywhere and what have you.

1198
00:59:27,013 --> 00:59:29,693
Speaker 7: But you've got to think of the people and just

1199
00:59:29,813 --> 00:59:32,933
Speaker 7: an conclusion. I just watched it and just hope that

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00:59:33,013 --> 00:59:35,253
Speaker 7: everything works out for these poor people in Gaza.

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00:59:36,213 --> 00:59:37,773
Speaker 3: Yes, Tony, thank you very much.

1202
00:59:37,973 --> 00:59:41,813
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's it's always the the innocent people

1203
00:59:42,053 --> 00:59:44,973
Speaker 2: that it's I mean, the innocent people with no power

1204
00:59:45,613 --> 00:59:49,253
Speaker 2: and all these conflicts, which is which is the absolute tragedy. Absolutely,

1205
00:59:49,453 --> 00:59:53,213
Speaker 2: and you know, the Palestine people are victims of I

1206
00:59:53,293 --> 00:59:58,333
Speaker 2: would say Hamas and and this war in general.

1207
00:59:58,493 --> 01:00:01,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, good discussion, Thank you very much.

1208
01:00:02,413 --> 01:00:05,813
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, whether credit is due to Trump partially or fully,

1209
01:00:06,693 --> 01:00:08,653
Speaker 2: you've got to say we're currently experiencing some peace in

1210
01:00:08,693 --> 01:00:11,453
Speaker 2: the area and that means there has been less horror

1211
01:00:11,533 --> 01:00:12,253
Speaker 2: in recent days.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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01:00:12,893 --> 01:00:16,573
Speaker 2: I mean, although there were some terrible shootings. Hamas executed

1214
01:00:16,573 --> 01:00:18,653
Speaker 2: some people overnight, so there are still horror and there

1215
01:00:18,693 --> 01:00:22,093
Speaker 2: still will be some horror. But I think we all

1216
01:00:22,093 --> 01:00:24,293
Speaker 2: agree that a ceasefire is a good thing at this point.

1217
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Speaker 3: And here's hoping it's at last, right. Thank you very

1218
01:00:26,773 --> 01:00:28,693
Speaker 3: much for all the phone calls and texts on that one.

1219
01:00:28,933 --> 01:00:31,093
Speaker 3: Coming up after the headlines with Raylene, we want to

1220
01:00:31,093 --> 01:00:33,333
Speaker 3: have a chat about summer jobs for teams. There was

1221
01:00:33,333 --> 01:00:35,693
Speaker 3: a story and newsroom saying it's pretty hard for teams

1222
01:00:35,733 --> 01:00:37,813
Speaker 3: to track down those jobs at the moment. So that's

1223
01:00:37,813 --> 01:00:39,373
Speaker 3: what we want to have a chat about. Are your

1224
01:00:39,413 --> 01:00:41,853
Speaker 3: teams finding it hard to lock in those summer jobs

1225
01:00:41,893 --> 01:00:44,093
Speaker 3: and if your employer, do you have jobs that need

1226
01:00:44,133 --> 01:00:45,773
Speaker 3: to be filled. Our one hundred and eighty ten eighty

1227
01:00:45,853 --> 01:00:47,693
Speaker 3: is a number to call. Headlines coming up.

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01:00:50,413 --> 01:00:50,973
Speaker 2: US talks.

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Speaker 14: It'd be headlines with blue bubble tax. It's no trouble

1230
01:00:54,493 --> 01:00:55,293
Speaker 14: with the blue bubble.

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Speaker 15: The government's announced guang Zhao Shipyard International as the company

1232
01:01:00,253 --> 01:01:03,453
Speaker 15: tasked with building two new cook straight fairies. It's the

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01:01:03,573 --> 01:01:07,293
Speaker 15: largest modern shipping company in Southern China, and Minister for

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01:01:07,413 --> 01:01:11,253
Speaker 15: Rail Winston Peters says that provides a high degree of confidence.

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01:01:12,373 --> 01:01:15,413
Speaker 15: It's been revealed documents to party Mardi sent to party

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01:01:15,533 --> 01:01:20,613
Speaker 15: members a led former Vice president Eru Kappakinghi threatened physical

1237
01:01:20,733 --> 01:01:25,973
Speaker 15: violence and made inappropriate and vulgar remarks to staffers. Homes

1238
01:01:26,013 --> 01:01:28,973
Speaker 15: are under a threat from rising rivers in northern Ruepehu

1239
01:01:29,373 --> 01:01:32,173
Speaker 15: and slips and flooding of impacted roads in the central

1240
01:01:32,253 --> 01:01:35,253
Speaker 15: North Island after heavy rain met service. As the heavy

1241
01:01:35,333 --> 01:01:38,773
Speaker 15: rain is now moving east. About two hundred and fifty

1242
01:01:38,853 --> 01:01:43,013
Speaker 15: thousand government devices are impacted. As support for Windows ten

1243
01:01:43,293 --> 01:01:46,693
Speaker 15: expires today, about a third of New Zealand computers may

1244
01:01:46,773 --> 01:01:52,133
Speaker 15: still run the operating system. ACCS apologized after a whistleblower

1245
01:01:52,213 --> 01:01:55,733
Speaker 15: complaint at manipulated data relating to the money spent on

1246
01:01:55,853 --> 01:02:01,453
Speaker 15: an executive's farewell event. While housing and infrastructure keep pace

1247
01:02:01,573 --> 01:02:04,533
Speaker 15: with our aging population. You can read the full column

1248
01:02:04,533 --> 01:02:07,853
Speaker 15: at Enzendhrald Premium are back to Matteth and Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Ray Lean, So story about summer

1250
01:02:10,733 --> 01:02:13,293
Speaker 3: jobs for teens and newsroom today. It is a bit

1251
01:02:13,333 --> 01:02:16,053
Speaker 3: of a key we write of passage. Many would remember

1252
01:02:16,613 --> 01:02:19,453
Speaker 3: the summer jobs that they had when they were teenagers

1253
01:02:19,533 --> 01:02:22,373
Speaker 3: before going into full time work, flipping burgers, stacking shelves,

1254
01:02:22,613 --> 01:02:25,093
Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera. But according to this article, it's

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01:02:25,133 --> 01:02:28,213
Speaker 3: getting harder for these young people to find jobs. Student

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01:02:28,293 --> 01:02:31,133
Speaker 3: jobs I Search show listings are up sixteen percent year

1257
01:02:31,173 --> 01:02:33,933
Speaker 3: on year. That's pretty good, but applications of climbed twenty

1258
01:02:34,013 --> 01:02:34,493
Speaker 3: eight percent.

1259
01:02:34,773 --> 01:02:36,693
Speaker 2: Is that way you get a job through student job search?

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01:02:36,733 --> 01:02:38,413
Speaker 2: I used to find when when I was at UNI,

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01:02:38,893 --> 01:02:41,253
Speaker 2: I'd go to student job search and they weren't very

1262
01:02:41,293 --> 01:02:43,933
Speaker 2: useful for me, right, but I ended up voice wanning work.

1263
01:02:44,253 --> 01:02:45,693
Speaker 2: I ended up I ended up picking a lot of

1264
01:02:45,893 --> 01:02:48,933
Speaker 2: picking a lot of fruit. But yeah, your summer jobs

1265
01:02:48,933 --> 01:02:51,613
Speaker 2: have I mean this people might disagree with this, but

1266
01:02:52,133 --> 01:02:54,973
Speaker 2: I've got some fantastic memories from my summer jobs. Yeah,

1267
01:02:55,293 --> 01:02:58,133
Speaker 2: when I was at UNI before I went into the workforce.

1268
01:02:59,093 --> 01:03:01,133
Speaker 2: But is this true that that it's hard to find

1269
01:03:01,213 --> 01:03:03,373
Speaker 2: some summer work for kids. I know my son didn't

1270
01:03:03,413 --> 01:03:06,653
Speaker 2: have any trouble last year. That's good finding finding summer work.

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01:03:06,733 --> 01:03:08,933
Speaker 3: I think you've always got a hustle. And you talked

1272
01:03:08,933 --> 01:03:11,733
Speaker 3: about student job search, because I freaking love that. When

1273
01:03:11,773 --> 01:03:13,493
Speaker 3: I was looking for a summer job, and I did

1274
01:03:13,573 --> 01:03:16,133
Speaker 3: all sorts, it was painting a woman's house. Me and

1275
01:03:16,213 --> 01:03:18,133
Speaker 3: a mate would always jump on the same jobs. We

1276
01:03:18,253 --> 01:03:20,933
Speaker 3: were moving, helping an old lady move some furniture, and

1277
01:03:21,013 --> 01:03:23,013
Speaker 3: it was always good money. I mean, we love the

1278
01:03:23,133 --> 01:03:25,533
Speaker 3: moving jobs because it would be two hours work. And

1279
01:03:25,573 --> 01:03:27,573
Speaker 3: I know I'm a terrible movin now, but it'll be

1280
01:03:27,613 --> 01:03:29,413
Speaker 3: two hours work and you get one hundred and fifty

1281
01:03:29,453 --> 01:03:29,813
Speaker 3: bucks each.

1282
01:03:29,893 --> 01:03:32,333
Speaker 2: I mean, it's good money finding summer work when you're

1283
01:03:32,373 --> 01:03:36,373
Speaker 2: that age. Is it about getting on the hustle. Yeah, hastling,

1284
01:03:36,613 --> 01:03:41,733
Speaker 2: hassling relatives, hastling friends, family, Is that I think that's

1285
01:03:41,773 --> 01:03:44,973
Speaker 2: how I got work. Yeah, i'd go onto student job search.

1286
01:03:45,053 --> 01:03:46,533
Speaker 2: That'd be some stuff. You could get a couple of

1287
01:03:46,653 --> 01:03:49,653
Speaker 2: days here and there doing something. But yeah, pretty sure

1288
01:03:49,653 --> 01:03:51,213
Speaker 2: I got on my work just by hassling people that

1289
01:03:51,253 --> 01:03:51,613
Speaker 2: I knew.

1290
01:03:51,853 --> 01:03:54,853
Speaker 3: I was pretty lucky with some summers that my dad

1291
01:03:54,973 --> 01:03:57,133
Speaker 3: is an electrician, so he'd have some laboring work. But

1292
01:03:57,173 --> 01:03:59,173
Speaker 3: you're quite right, there was sometimes he said, I've got

1293
01:03:59,253 --> 01:04:00,573
Speaker 3: no work for you, so I'm not going to get

1294
01:04:00,653 --> 01:04:02,973
Speaker 3: you just doing nothing. You've actually got to go find something.

1295
01:04:03,293 --> 01:04:05,373
Speaker 3: But then he'd say, hey, call this chippy, and then

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Speaker 3: I'd call that chippy, Hey have you at any laboring

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01:04:07,253 --> 01:04:09,413
Speaker 3: weeks that now I've got nothing, try this fella. So

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Speaker 3: I'd be calling through the different building companies until I

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01:04:12,053 --> 01:04:14,013
Speaker 3: found someone to say, yep, you can come and move

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Speaker 3: a wilbarrow for a couple of hours.

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Speaker 22: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So were you having to pay your way through university?

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01:04:18,213 --> 01:04:18,453
Speaker 20: Yes?

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01:04:18,733 --> 01:04:21,333
Speaker 2: I was, Yeah, so it became it was urgent to

1305
01:04:21,413 --> 01:04:22,653
Speaker 2: get the work.

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01:04:22,573 --> 01:04:24,733
Speaker 3: Yeah, or else there'd be no drinking money. There'd be

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01:04:24,773 --> 01:04:27,813
Speaker 3: bucker food money. That's the important things. We're at university.

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Speaker 2: And pardon my ignorance on the issue. And I know

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01:04:30,973 --> 01:04:33,413
Speaker 2: that this has changed for eighteen and nineteen year olds

1310
01:04:33,453 --> 01:04:36,053
Speaker 2: if your parents own over over sixty five thousand. But

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01:04:36,453 --> 01:04:39,413
Speaker 2: if someone's been at university and they don't find work

1312
01:04:39,453 --> 01:04:42,413
Speaker 2: in that break, is the unemployment and benefit available for

1313
01:04:42,493 --> 01:04:43,573
Speaker 2: them the job seek it?

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01:04:43,813 --> 01:04:45,253
Speaker 3: It won't be from next year so are they going

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01:04:45,293 --> 01:04:47,453
Speaker 3: to bring in that policy from next year? So, I

1316
01:04:47,533 --> 01:04:50,373
Speaker 3: mean that would make it even more motivation to try

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01:04:50,413 --> 01:04:53,453
Speaker 3: and hustle up and try and find a summer job. Oh,

1318
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Speaker 3: e one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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01:04:55,853 --> 01:04:58,173
Speaker 3: What are good summer jobs? What were the summer jobs

1320
01:04:58,253 --> 01:05:00,973
Speaker 3: that you did, and how are your kids going with

1321
01:05:01,053 --> 01:05:02,013
Speaker 3: finding those summer jobs?

1322
01:05:02,053 --> 01:05:02,613
Speaker 2: Love to hear from you.

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01:05:02,693 --> 01:05:04,173
Speaker 3: Nine two niney two is the text number.

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01:05:04,613 --> 01:05:07,053
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, this heating up this people are interested about this.

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01:05:07,253 --> 01:05:10,293
Speaker 2: Then to the I can't speak. I can't believe I've

1326
01:05:10,333 --> 01:05:12,933
Speaker 2: got a job at all, especially when in broadcasting. I'd

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01:05:13,013 --> 01:05:15,813
Speaker 2: like to say that this topic is heating up summer jobs.

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Speaker 3: Let's get into it. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighties

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01:05:17,853 --> 01:05:18,413
Speaker 3: the number to call.

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Speaker 1: It's a fresh take on talk back. It's mad Heathen

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01:05:21,853 --> 01:05:25,613
Speaker 1: Tyler Adams. Afternoons. Have your say on eight hundred eighty

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01:05:25,693 --> 01:05:26,773
Speaker 1: ten eighty news talks.

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Speaker 3: They'd be afternoon. We're talking about summer jobs. Apparently there

1334
01:05:30,693 --> 01:05:32,613
Speaker 3: aren't too many out there, but is it really true?

1335
01:05:32,613 --> 01:05:34,413
Speaker 3: And what are the good summer jobs? Or one hundred

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01:05:34,453 --> 01:05:35,173
Speaker 3: eighteen eighty.

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Speaker 2: Mark, welcome the show.

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Speaker 18: Oh, hi, guys, I think it was the last government

1339
01:05:42,213 --> 01:05:46,453
Speaker 18: who got rid of the student pay. So someone who's

1340
01:05:46,493 --> 01:05:49,373
Speaker 18: going to employ someone if they've got no experience or anything,

1341
01:05:49,453 --> 01:05:54,213
Speaker 18: they have to pay them the minimum pay payway. So

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01:05:55,333 --> 01:05:58,173
Speaker 18: why would you employ someone when you've already got someone

1343
01:05:58,213 --> 01:06:00,813
Speaker 18: who knows the stuff and what they're doing. If you've

1344
01:06:00,853 --> 01:06:02,813
Speaker 18: got someone to do odd jobs, do you still have

1345
01:06:02,893 --> 01:06:05,573
Speaker 18: to pay them the same as someone who's doing it

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01:06:06,533 --> 01:06:07,053
Speaker 18: full time?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: So what odd student student pay? What sort of percentage

1349
01:06:10,933 --> 01:06:12,053
Speaker 2: of the minimum wage was it?

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01:06:14,373 --> 01:06:15,933
Speaker 20: I'm not sure it was.

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01:06:16,293 --> 01:06:18,813
Speaker 18: I think just for Ragan's sake, say if the minimum

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01:06:18,933 --> 01:06:22,413
Speaker 18: pay was twenty two dollars, it was something like sixteen

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01:06:22,493 --> 01:06:23,693
Speaker 18: or seventeen dollars.

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Speaker 2: Because I remember being paid a lot less, and it

1355
01:06:25,973 --> 01:06:28,213
Speaker 2: was kind of the understanding that because you weren't here,

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01:06:28,853 --> 01:06:30,693
Speaker 2: you know you were you were in a full time employee,

1357
01:06:30,693 --> 01:06:32,373
Speaker 2: weren't there for the long haul, you were just working

1358
01:06:32,413 --> 01:06:36,133
Speaker 2: over summer, you did get paid paid less. That that

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01:06:36,293 --> 01:06:37,453
Speaker 2: was just kind of a deal, wasn't it.

1360
01:06:38,853 --> 01:06:39,813
Speaker 21: Well that was the deal.

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01:06:39,893 --> 01:06:41,333
Speaker 18: But you also weren't.

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01:06:43,133 --> 01:06:46,013
Speaker 20: Skilled enough to do what the other people are doing.

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Speaker 18: You may have to learn stuff. Yeah, but I got

1364
01:06:48,573 --> 01:06:51,733
Speaker 18: my son a job quite quite easily because I said,

1365
01:06:51,813 --> 01:06:53,973
Speaker 18: go and work. Go and say you worked for them

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01:06:54,053 --> 01:06:56,573
Speaker 18: for a week for nothing, and they can train you

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01:06:56,693 --> 01:06:59,013
Speaker 18: up and then you can go in and do the work.

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Speaker 18: And he never got turned down.

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Speaker 3: That's smart. I'm just thinking, you know, on the old

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01:07:06,093 --> 01:07:09,373
Speaker 3: pay situation, I know this for effect. Actually when I

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01:07:09,493 --> 01:07:12,013
Speaker 3: was using student job search that it was cash and

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01:07:12,133 --> 01:07:14,853
Speaker 3: hand jobs, so effectively, I think you'd call them cashes.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I know people get a bit

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01:07:18,333 --> 01:07:20,253
Speaker 3: funny when you talk about cashes, But when it's a

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01:07:20,333 --> 01:07:22,733
Speaker 3: student looking for a bit of summer work, is there

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01:07:22,733 --> 01:07:25,453
Speaker 3: anything wrong with with cashes for the students to help out?

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01:07:27,453 --> 01:07:31,213
Speaker 18: No at all. I always well, if I can use

1378
01:07:31,293 --> 01:07:35,613
Speaker 18: cash for most things, I usually do, and you sometimes

1379
01:07:35,693 --> 01:07:39,493
Speaker 18: can get a cheaper price because you've bought something by cash.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but hang on minute. So there's always a reason

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01:07:43,053 --> 01:07:45,333
Speaker 2: why you could do a cashi. So if you say

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01:07:45,373 --> 01:07:48,013
Speaker 2: our students can do cashis then what Then the next

1383
01:07:48,053 --> 01:07:50,733
Speaker 2: person goes, well, what about me? Why can't I do

1384
01:07:50,773 --> 01:07:54,453
Speaker 2: a cashe whit? What are those? What are those bloody students.

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Speaker 3: At the university? Bloody lose is getting the cashy? But yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, how does it work for it? On the

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01:07:59,653 --> 01:08:01,133
Speaker 3: tech situation, sorry, you.

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Speaker 18: Go, Mark, they get paid a lot less. Yeah, And

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Speaker 18: I think that's the main difference is it's not just

1390
01:08:09,013 --> 01:08:11,773
Speaker 18: to knock off the GST do it for cash type thing.

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Speaker 18: It's not the GST off twice yeah, and then.

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Speaker 23: You get the CASHI.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 18: So it's not full on and it doesn't matter what

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01:08:20,893 --> 01:08:22,853
Speaker 18: you do as long as they turn up. And that

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01:08:23,013 --> 01:08:26,213
Speaker 18: was the thing which when my son did it, he

1397
01:08:26,412 --> 01:08:28,612
Speaker 18: was turning up and that's what they liked.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thank you very much.

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01:08:31,253 --> 01:08:33,093
Speaker 3: But I'm just thinking, you know those moving jobs I

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01:08:33,213 --> 01:08:36,293
Speaker 3: talked about, and it was an elderly lady and we

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01:08:36,372 --> 01:08:37,973
Speaker 3: were moving a couple of couches for her and she

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01:08:38,053 --> 01:08:40,253
Speaker 3: paid us in cash. You can't tell me she's running

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01:08:40,253 --> 01:08:42,173
Speaker 3: that through the books. You know that that was a

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01:08:42,253 --> 01:08:45,133
Speaker 3: straight up cashy. So I don't know whether there must

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01:08:45,173 --> 01:08:48,812
Speaker 3: have been some sort of tax exemption for when you

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01:08:48,893 --> 01:08:50,293
Speaker 3: were doing a student job suits like that.

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Speaker 2: Well, someone's saying here, student payers eighteen dollars per hour.

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01:08:54,053 --> 01:08:55,452
Speaker 2: I need to get to the bottom of this. Yeah,

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01:08:56,572 --> 01:08:59,333
Speaker 2: I should know this going into the subject. So shame

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01:08:59,452 --> 01:09:02,133
Speaker 2: on me for two days in a row. Shame on me,

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01:09:02,492 --> 01:09:05,732
Speaker 2: shame on my name. But going into this topic, I

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01:09:05,893 --> 01:09:08,772
Speaker 2: thought that just the minimum wage was a blankets the board.

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01:09:08,853 --> 01:09:10,293
Speaker 3: Well, to be fair, that's what I thought as well,

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01:09:10,333 --> 01:09:11,972
Speaker 3: because that's when you go into a full time job.

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01:09:12,013 --> 01:09:14,372
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, once you're over sixteen, I mean,

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01:09:14,452 --> 01:09:17,093
Speaker 2: because there's a different wage, right yeah, yeah, yeah, yes,

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01:09:18,133 --> 01:09:19,532
Speaker 2: But we'll get to we'll get to the bottom of that,

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01:09:19,652 --> 01:09:20,133
Speaker 2: right yeah.

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01:09:20,173 --> 01:09:22,133
Speaker 3: If you know, if you know, if you're a student

1420
01:09:22,213 --> 01:09:23,933
Speaker 3: out there listening right now, I love to hear from you.

1421
01:09:23,973 --> 01:09:25,492
Speaker 3: On oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

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01:09:25,412 --> 01:09:29,612
Speaker 2: Joanne agrees with me. Cashi's are tax fraud. End of story.

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01:09:29,893 --> 01:09:31,492
Speaker 2: See that's the thing people like you tell you were

1424
01:09:31,532 --> 01:09:33,253
Speaker 2: like just as a little cashy for me, because you know,

1425
01:09:33,333 --> 01:09:35,452
Speaker 2: I'm just working in the summer, because for me, for me,

1426
01:09:35,612 --> 01:09:38,133
Speaker 2: me me, me, me, me, me me, you know it. Meanwhile,

1427
01:09:38,173 --> 01:09:40,692
Speaker 2: everyone else is having to pay tax to contribute.

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Speaker 3: Little old bits. He needed to couch his moves. And

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01:09:42,772 --> 01:09:44,892
Speaker 3: you know she doesn't want to run there through the books.

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01:09:44,893 --> 01:09:47,452
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna She's lived a good life. We've got

1431
01:09:47,532 --> 01:09:50,173
Speaker 3: to mark get mark second, mark two marks in a row.

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Speaker 6: Welcome to Yeah.

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Speaker 13: Mark two version here is to reminisce you know, late eighties,

1434
01:09:57,452 --> 01:10:00,572
Speaker 13: early nineties we're all here to Alexandra sent to a

1435
01:10:00,652 --> 01:10:06,532
Speaker 13: tago Lovely for free picking specifically you know, cherries, apricotts

1436
01:10:06,572 --> 01:10:09,572
Speaker 13: and whatever else. And it was good times, you know,

1437
01:10:09,772 --> 01:10:13,933
Speaker 13: so we got made good money, a lot of socializing

1438
01:10:14,013 --> 01:10:16,933
Speaker 13: going on at the local pubs and Clyde and Alexandra.

1439
01:10:18,492 --> 01:10:20,973
Speaker 13: You know, there was all sort of good money. The

1440
01:10:21,053 --> 01:10:22,572
Speaker 13: guys and girls that.

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01:10:22,692 --> 01:10:25,652
Speaker 19: Couldn't pick fruit, we would discard them to one side

1442
01:10:25,692 --> 01:10:28,093
Speaker 19: and they'd split the earnings amongst each other or the

1443
01:10:28,853 --> 01:10:32,133
Speaker 19: rest of us that could smash it out. You know,

1444
01:10:32,293 --> 01:10:36,253
Speaker 19: you started six in the morning, plenty exercise, swimming.

1445
01:10:35,933 --> 01:10:38,412
Speaker 18: In the rivers. So yeah, yeah, it was about it

1446
01:10:38,532 --> 01:10:40,013
Speaker 18: was awesome. Actually, well I.

1447
01:10:40,412 --> 01:10:42,852
Speaker 2: Did the same thing. I was up in Blenham picking

1448
01:10:43,053 --> 01:10:45,973
Speaker 2: pricking cherries. But there's definitely a huge difference between, as

1449
01:10:46,053 --> 01:10:48,213
Speaker 2: you say, Mark, those that can make money doing it

1450
01:10:48,293 --> 01:10:52,053
Speaker 2: and those that are useless. And back then when I

1451
01:10:52,133 --> 01:10:55,372
Speaker 2: was doing it and there was only only got paid

1452
01:10:55,492 --> 01:10:58,213
Speaker 2: by the tray, so there was no there was no

1453
01:10:58,333 --> 01:10:59,293
Speaker 2: minimum wage situation.

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01:10:59,572 --> 01:10:59,732
Speaker 15: You know.

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01:10:59,772 --> 01:11:01,293
Speaker 2: They came around and said this is tray and they

1456
01:11:01,293 --> 01:11:02,732
Speaker 2: had to be exports, so it had to be a

1457
01:11:02,812 --> 01:11:05,973
Speaker 2: tray of the absolute best. Guy would come around on

1458
01:11:06,053 --> 01:11:07,333
Speaker 2: his four wheeler and go.

1459
01:11:07,532 --> 01:11:10,012
Speaker 3: Nap and there was no pointing rocks at the bottom

1460
01:11:10,053 --> 01:11:11,333
Speaker 3: of your punnet to try and weigh it down.

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01:11:11,492 --> 01:11:13,893
Speaker 2: My mate Caine was making no money. It was just

1462
01:11:13,973 --> 01:11:17,732
Speaker 2: too always too hungover and too useless. Too mate.

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01:11:18,372 --> 01:11:21,133
Speaker 19: We used to love the blues, bruise and barbecues, hitting out,

1464
01:11:21,893 --> 01:11:23,053
Speaker 19: getting into sinto.

1465
01:11:22,812 --> 01:11:25,213
Speaker 23: A target, so we would you could hit your night out.

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01:11:26,173 --> 01:11:28,253
Speaker 19: I don't think many students pick fruit anymore.

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01:11:29,612 --> 01:11:30,213
Speaker 23: Probably eat it.

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01:11:31,492 --> 01:11:33,412
Speaker 2: You used to put fruit, it didn't you as well? Tighter?

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01:11:33,572 --> 01:11:36,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We picked apricots and it was

1470
01:11:36,213 --> 01:11:38,572
Speaker 3: the same situation as you had the really hard workers

1471
01:11:38,812 --> 01:11:40,492
Speaker 3: and they had the whole family down there and they

1472
01:11:40,532 --> 01:11:43,253
Speaker 3: would just head down and they were going gang buses

1473
01:11:43,293 --> 01:11:45,652
Speaker 3: and they made good money. But us idiots, who were

1474
01:11:45,692 --> 01:11:47,132
Speaker 3: you know, chucking fruit at each other.

1475
01:11:47,372 --> 01:11:50,052
Speaker 2: And we got our warnings rocking and at sixtem stinking

1476
01:11:50,093 --> 01:11:53,173
Speaker 2: of booze, massive headache, just trying to cost us.

1477
01:11:53,093 --> 01:11:56,053
Speaker 3: More money in Petro to get out there. Oh one

1478
01:11:56,133 --> 01:11:57,932
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty is being able to call

1479
01:11:58,053 --> 01:12:00,013
Speaker 3: so many ticks coming through a nine two ninety two

1480
01:12:00,133 --> 01:12:02,812
Speaker 3: as well? Summer jobs, What are the good summer jobs

1481
01:12:02,812 --> 01:12:04,572
Speaker 3: out there? And what did you do did you have

1482
01:12:04,652 --> 01:12:07,532
Speaker 3: to hustle? Love to hear from you. It is thirteen

1483
01:12:07,572 --> 01:12:08,452
Speaker 3: to three, back in the month.

1484
01:12:09,612 --> 01:12:12,012
Speaker 1: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

1485
01:12:12,093 --> 01:12:15,973
Speaker 1: along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons Newstalks

1486
01:12:16,213 --> 01:12:17,133
Speaker 1: be at.

1487
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Speaker 24: Least ensure the child is nurture, challenge and truly ready

1488
01:12:20,532 --> 01:12:21,452
Speaker 24: for primary.

1489
01:12:21,093 --> 01:12:21,852
Speaker 17: School and beyond.

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01:12:22,093 --> 01:12:26,572
Speaker 3: Sounds incredible. So it's really about solid foundations for lifelong learning, Angela.

1491
01:12:27,612 --> 01:12:31,572
Speaker 24: Exactly when those foundations are strong, children don't adapt to schools,

1492
01:12:31,772 --> 01:12:32,932
Speaker 24: they thrive and achieve.

1493
01:12:33,293 --> 01:12:35,452
Speaker 2: That's inspiring stuff, Angela. Thank you so much for your

1494
01:12:35,492 --> 01:12:38,013
Speaker 2: time today. Thank you, Thank you.

1495
01:12:38,253 --> 01:12:39,013
Speaker 3: Go and check them out.

1496
01:12:40,053 --> 01:12:43,333
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams News.

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01:12:43,093 --> 01:12:46,013
Speaker 3: Storks there be. It is ten two three and we

1498
01:12:46,093 --> 01:12:48,333
Speaker 3: have been talking about summer jobs. What were the summer

1499
01:12:48,412 --> 01:12:51,852
Speaker 3: jobs you did to get through and save a bit

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01:12:51,893 --> 01:12:54,093
Speaker 3: of money for university or other Love to hear from you, Oh,

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01:12:54,093 --> 01:12:55,133
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighteen eighty.

1502
01:12:55,173 --> 01:12:57,333
Speaker 2: Hey guys, there's something called a training rate which some

1503
01:12:57,452 --> 01:12:59,893
Speaker 2: players use to get around the minimum wage payment. You

1504
01:12:59,973 --> 01:13:02,452
Speaker 2: can only pay someone their rate for six months, and

1505
01:13:02,532 --> 01:13:05,213
Speaker 2: the idea is you're supposed to be trusting them. My

1506
01:13:05,372 --> 01:13:07,572
Speaker 2: son had a summer job at a restaurant. They had

1507
01:13:07,612 --> 01:13:10,253
Speaker 2: them on this but he was doing full ordering front

1508
01:13:10,293 --> 01:13:13,173
Speaker 2: of house. He wasn't training. That annoyed me. He left

1509
01:13:13,612 --> 01:13:16,372
Speaker 2: and has a much better weekend job where they value

1510
01:13:16,452 --> 01:13:18,293
Speaker 2: him for the job he does. All right.

1511
01:13:18,412 --> 01:13:26,532
Speaker 3: Interesting is the text number? So you you've opened up

1512
01:13:26,532 --> 01:13:27,333
Speaker 3: a can of words here.

1513
01:13:27,492 --> 01:13:29,532
Speaker 2: It's just the casual way you say, surely a cash

1514
01:13:29,572 --> 01:13:32,572
Speaker 2: he's all right for a student on a for a

1515
01:13:32,572 --> 01:13:35,932
Speaker 2: summer job. It's just such an elitist attitude. It's one

1516
01:13:36,213 --> 01:13:41,212
Speaker 2: rule for the tertiary students, one rule for the elites,

1517
01:13:41,333 --> 01:13:43,852
Speaker 2: and then a different rule for the rest of us.

1518
01:13:43,973 --> 01:13:45,532
Speaker 3: Cheeky under the table, nothing wrong with.

1519
01:13:45,612 --> 01:13:50,212
Speaker 2: It, Cray, Welcome to the show, oh gentlemen.

1520
01:13:50,372 --> 01:13:57,412
Speaker 25: So many, so many different cans to unfold it. So

1521
01:13:58,013 --> 01:14:02,293
Speaker 25: construction background, right. I used to go on school holidays

1522
01:14:03,333 --> 01:14:07,053
Speaker 25: and dig trenches. My dad was a conquered and he

1523
01:14:07,293 --> 01:14:11,293
Speaker 25: just draw out with a canna dazzle where my trenches

1524
01:14:11,372 --> 01:14:15,572
Speaker 25: need to be, and I just dig them, so hard work.

1525
01:14:15,612 --> 01:14:17,732
Speaker 25: But he said, oh yeah, you work a man's job.

1526
01:14:17,812 --> 01:14:21,732
Speaker 25: You get paid of a man's wage. So I dig

1527
01:14:21,812 --> 01:14:24,772
Speaker 25: them and I was quite happy to do that. And

1528
01:14:25,732 --> 01:14:27,612
Speaker 25: it was bloody awsome. There was a lot of money,

1529
01:14:27,772 --> 01:14:30,253
Speaker 25: you know what I mean, It was like it seemed

1530
01:14:30,333 --> 01:14:33,412
Speaker 25: like a lot of money. It probably wasn't too anyone else,

1531
01:14:33,532 --> 01:14:37,093
Speaker 25: but it was a good coin. But the problem we

1532
01:14:37,293 --> 01:14:40,692
Speaker 25: have now is you can't let a young guy into

1533
01:14:40,732 --> 01:14:42,732
Speaker 25: a construction site and just give a hand like we

1534
01:14:42,853 --> 01:14:46,253
Speaker 25: used to on the old days, because he's now got

1535
01:14:46,412 --> 01:14:51,372
Speaker 25: to go through the whole safety procedure. He's going to

1536
01:14:51,492 --> 01:14:55,253
Speaker 25: need gloves, he's going to still keep boots, he's going

1537
01:14:55,293 --> 01:15:01,932
Speaker 25: to need training on OSH requirements and don't signed out.

1538
01:15:02,053 --> 01:15:03,973
Speaker 8: He's going to have to do.

1539
01:15:05,772 --> 01:15:09,213
Speaker 25: Toolbox meetings and all these sorts of things. Suddenly you've

1540
01:15:09,293 --> 01:15:12,732
Speaker 25: got where it went from, you know, turning up with

1541
01:15:12,893 --> 01:15:15,532
Speaker 25: one of your dad's mates and giving yourself, you know,

1542
01:15:15,652 --> 01:15:17,133
Speaker 25: fifteen twenty bucks in her cash.

1543
01:15:17,333 --> 01:15:19,213
Speaker 2: Yeah right, you know.

1544
01:15:19,532 --> 01:15:24,013
Speaker 25: Now it all has to be done really carefully. I mean,

1545
01:15:24,492 --> 01:15:27,012
Speaker 25: my son has helped me sometimes in the past when

1546
01:15:27,053 --> 01:15:30,612
Speaker 25: he was a student and I've said, well, if you

1547
01:15:30,692 --> 01:15:32,452
Speaker 25: fall off that roofmatee, I'm just going to drag you

1548
01:15:32,492 --> 01:15:34,093
Speaker 25: out to the road and say you fell and get

1549
01:15:34,173 --> 01:15:40,053
Speaker 25: hit the bike car easier because acc is not going

1550
01:15:40,133 --> 01:15:41,972
Speaker 25: to cover you if you got hurt on the job.

1551
01:15:42,532 --> 01:15:44,532
Speaker 2: So that's not really what you're saying is it's not

1552
01:15:44,612 --> 01:15:48,852
Speaker 2: really worth the trouble for someone to just employ a

1553
01:15:48,933 --> 01:15:51,612
Speaker 2: person that's going to be around for a month or

1554
01:15:51,732 --> 01:15:55,492
Speaker 2: six wells because the admin leading them in there and

1555
01:15:55,532 --> 01:15:58,893
Speaker 2: the responsibility that's that's one of those unforeseen circumstances. But

1556
01:16:00,452 --> 01:16:02,852
Speaker 2: you know, so do you think health and safety has

1557
01:16:02,893 --> 01:16:05,053
Speaker 2: gone too far? Craig, Because obviously the other thing is

1558
01:16:05,093 --> 01:16:07,812
Speaker 2: you don't want to lose an arm on your summer job.

1559
01:16:08,372 --> 01:16:10,293
Speaker 25: You don't want you don't want young guys getting hurt.

1560
01:16:10,372 --> 01:16:12,612
Speaker 25: But I think it's gone too far. Like I think

1561
01:16:12,652 --> 01:16:14,852
Speaker 25: it was really cool when you rock along with your

1562
01:16:14,933 --> 01:16:18,492
Speaker 25: dad or one of your dad's mates and going to

1563
01:16:18,652 --> 01:16:22,293
Speaker 25: stuff on a farm or go and do something like that.

1564
01:16:23,053 --> 01:16:25,852
Speaker 25: Now there's just no way I would take the risk

1565
01:16:25,933 --> 01:16:29,572
Speaker 25: of taking him go into building sight without through all that.

1566
01:16:29,812 --> 01:16:32,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but Plava makes sense. So what actually changed

1567
01:16:32,772 --> 01:16:33,532
Speaker 3: was this work safe?

1568
01:16:33,652 --> 01:16:33,732
Speaker 15: Was it?

1569
01:16:33,812 --> 01:16:37,172
Speaker 3: Because I'm just thinking about you know, laboring for Chippy's

1570
01:16:37,213 --> 01:16:40,252
Speaker 3: and doing various jobs and working for dad as a sparky.

1571
01:16:40,772 --> 01:16:43,253
Speaker 3: Was it that work safe transition that then made health

1572
01:16:43,333 --> 01:16:46,293
Speaker 3: and safety too regulated to get a young guy to

1573
01:16:46,893 --> 01:16:47,572
Speaker 3: do odd jobs.

1574
01:16:48,893 --> 01:16:52,492
Speaker 25: Yeah, so I kind of figure. This happened probably about

1575
01:16:52,532 --> 01:16:55,572
Speaker 25: ten years ago roughly, right, Yeah, because a lot of

1576
01:16:55,692 --> 01:16:57,652
Speaker 25: us used to take young guys onto site. So it'll

1577
01:16:57,692 --> 01:17:00,092
Speaker 25: be I'm just going off the top of the hedio

1578
01:17:00,133 --> 01:17:03,452
Speaker 25: a teen years ago, and we used to have guys

1579
01:17:03,532 --> 01:17:05,133
Speaker 25: working with me, going hey, is there any chance my

1580
01:17:05,213 --> 01:17:09,093
Speaker 25: boy can come and a hand. We were like, yeah, absolutely,

1581
01:17:09,173 --> 01:17:10,532
Speaker 25: And we used to do that all the time, and

1582
01:17:10,652 --> 01:17:14,213
Speaker 25: we did look after them like we didn't. We certainly

1583
01:17:14,293 --> 01:17:17,093
Speaker 25: didn't hand them a mess of sore and go yeah,

1584
01:17:17,213 --> 01:17:18,293
Speaker 25: just cutting stuff up.

1585
01:17:18,973 --> 01:17:20,652
Speaker 11: Yeah, it was they were.

1586
01:17:21,133 --> 01:17:22,813
Speaker 25: We made sure that they were operational.

1587
01:17:23,372 --> 01:17:25,133
Speaker 2: I don't know about that, Craig.

1588
01:17:25,213 --> 01:17:25,412
Speaker 8: I was.

1589
01:17:25,812 --> 01:17:28,213
Speaker 2: I was one day, just got to ring up and

1590
01:17:28,253 --> 01:17:32,492
Speaker 2: said we need someone working on the construction site. And

1591
01:17:32,973 --> 01:17:35,412
Speaker 2: I had no idea, but I arrived, I was given

1592
01:17:35,412 --> 01:17:37,412
Speaker 2: a hat, I was handed a shovel, and then I

1593
01:17:37,532 --> 01:17:41,133
Speaker 2: was shoved. I was lowered down a lift shaft with

1594
01:17:41,213 --> 01:17:44,492
Speaker 2: someone had poured, you know, poured a whole lot of

1595
01:17:44,532 --> 01:17:46,253
Speaker 2: gravel into the wrong hole. So they was trying to

1596
01:17:46,293 --> 01:17:48,412
Speaker 2: make one higher, but they'd made the high one. So

1597
01:17:48,532 --> 01:17:50,572
Speaker 2: I was just down there all day, just shoveling into

1598
01:17:50,612 --> 01:17:53,372
Speaker 2: buckets they were pulling out. No health and safety. I

1599
01:17:53,452 --> 01:17:54,932
Speaker 2: was just lowered straight down the hole.

1600
01:17:54,812 --> 01:17:55,732
Speaker 3: And go to the sun.

1601
01:17:56,133 --> 01:17:58,812
Speaker 2: We've got this, we've got this, we've got this annoying

1602
01:17:59,013 --> 01:18:00,692
Speaker 2: we've got this annoying student. We're going to put them

1603
01:18:00,732 --> 01:18:02,293
Speaker 2: down the hole and make them work.

1604
01:18:03,853 --> 01:18:05,572
Speaker 25: I guess there was some who are perads like that.

1605
01:18:05,652 --> 01:18:08,053
Speaker 25: I mean I was always aware, Yeah, we're going to

1606
01:18:08,093 --> 01:18:11,013
Speaker 25: look at for these young guys, and most of the yeah,

1607
01:18:11,133 --> 01:18:13,452
Speaker 25: the guys working for me, it was me kids, so

1608
01:18:13,772 --> 01:18:15,213
Speaker 25: I was certainly going to look after them.

1609
01:18:15,372 --> 01:18:15,572
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1610
01:18:15,772 --> 01:18:17,412
Speaker 2: Well, they made me stand outside the truck and they

1611
01:18:17,452 --> 01:18:19,173
Speaker 2: were just handing me bit to checking out that it

1612
01:18:19,293 --> 01:18:20,932
Speaker 2: was right when they started raining. There wasn't even room

1613
01:18:21,013 --> 01:18:23,173
Speaker 2: in the truck handing bits of checking out to put

1614
01:18:23,253 --> 01:18:26,492
Speaker 2: on my bread roll. That's about the only kindness of

1615
01:18:26,612 --> 01:18:27,412
Speaker 2: shot that is hard.

1616
01:18:27,492 --> 01:18:29,412
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, crazy.

1617
01:18:31,692 --> 01:18:33,293
Speaker 25: We've had guys that last than now.

1618
01:18:33,812 --> 01:18:36,892
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is too hard.

1619
01:18:37,213 --> 01:18:39,412
Speaker 25: That didn't say it was going to be this hard, Yeah,

1620
01:18:39,973 --> 01:18:43,852
Speaker 25: I thought, yeah, well yeah, but they're obviously offer universally

1621
01:18:43,893 --> 01:18:44,333
Speaker 25: those ones.

1622
01:18:44,612 --> 01:18:47,732
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, thanks you cool, Craig, Yeah, good cool.

1623
01:18:48,173 --> 01:18:49,852
Speaker 3: Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighties number of call,

1624
01:18:49,893 --> 01:18:52,612
Speaker 3: Plenty of teakes coming through on nine to nine to two.

1625
01:18:53,093 --> 01:18:55,452
Speaker 2: The six this minium wages exactly that regardless of age.

1626
01:18:55,492 --> 01:18:57,933
Speaker 2: Now there is a lower training wage, but this is

1627
01:18:58,133 --> 01:18:59,893
Speaker 2: short term and not intended it as a way to

1628
01:18:59,973 --> 01:19:02,133
Speaker 2: reduce the employer's wage bill long term.

1629
01:19:02,612 --> 01:19:08,253
Speaker 3: Interesting, we've got about forty five seconds. Should we try, hunter, Hunter,

1630
01:19:08,372 --> 01:19:09,732
Speaker 3: we've got the news hot on our tale. But what

1631
01:19:09,853 --> 01:19:12,412
Speaker 3: did you do? As a students?

1632
01:19:12,452 --> 01:19:15,973
Speaker 26: I said, And I was working just as like a handyman.

1633
01:19:16,213 --> 01:19:19,652
Speaker 26: I basically just put a message out on the community

1634
01:19:19,772 --> 01:19:23,293
Speaker 26: facebook pages, say that I was looking for work and

1635
01:19:23,412 --> 01:19:24,452
Speaker 26: it was just great while I was it.

1636
01:19:24,532 --> 01:19:25,973
Speaker 23: You need to get some cash rolling in.

1637
01:19:26,253 --> 01:19:29,572
Speaker 2: Were they cashes? Was that a formal operation going on

1638
01:19:29,652 --> 01:19:30,012
Speaker 2: the Hunter?

1639
01:19:30,933 --> 01:19:30,973
Speaker 12: No?

1640
01:19:31,133 --> 01:19:32,012
Speaker 23: Those were cashes?

1641
01:19:32,133 --> 01:19:34,372
Speaker 3: Good man. Yeah, there we go. See that's what we're

1642
01:19:34,372 --> 01:19:37,773
Speaker 3: talking about. Hunter. Thank you very much, mate, great discussion.

1643
01:19:38,013 --> 01:19:41,093
Speaker 3: Lock them up, Lock them I call the IID coming

1644
01:19:41,173 --> 01:19:43,732
Speaker 3: up after three o'clock. We've already had so many ticks

1645
01:19:43,732 --> 01:19:48,532
Speaker 3: about this. But whale experiences, what are your experiences? We'll

1646
01:19:48,572 --> 01:19:50,612
Speaker 3: tell you more very shortly. News is next.

1647
01:19:53,372 --> 01:19:57,092
Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathen Taylor Adams

1648
01:19:57,213 --> 01:19:59,012
Speaker 1: Afternoons News Talks.

1649
01:19:59,053 --> 01:19:59,333
Speaker 4: It'd be.

1650
01:20:00,853 --> 01:20:02,772
Speaker 3: Good a to you. Welcome back into the show. It

1651
01:20:02,933 --> 01:20:06,533
Speaker 3: is six past three awesome, DA have your company as always,

1652
01:20:06,732 --> 01:20:09,812
Speaker 3: so let's have a chat about wal A cool story

1653
01:20:10,412 --> 01:20:12,932
Speaker 3: in the New Zealand hero you can ever read of it. Megaloo,

1654
01:20:13,013 --> 01:20:15,452
Speaker 3: the world famous white whale, maybe back in New Zealand

1655
01:20:15,452 --> 01:20:18,572
Speaker 3: waters following a possible sighting near Kai Quarter. It's a

1656
01:20:18,652 --> 01:20:21,093
Speaker 3: humpback and it's only one of four white whales ever

1657
01:20:21,253 --> 01:20:24,652
Speaker 3: recorded worldwide. Footage has been shared on social media of

1658
01:20:24,812 --> 01:20:30,012
Speaker 3: the albino humpback surfacing south of Kai Quarter, now Megaloo.

1659
01:20:30,093 --> 01:20:32,732
Speaker 3: The name translates as whitefella.

1660
01:20:32,812 --> 01:20:35,372
Speaker 2: Right, so as Migaloo just the same as it always

1661
01:20:35,372 --> 01:20:37,733
Speaker 2: the same whale. Yeah, it's this one that was celebrated

1662
01:20:37,772 --> 01:20:39,892
Speaker 2: at the opening ceremony of the Olympics and such.

1663
01:20:40,013 --> 01:20:42,812
Speaker 3: I believe you're right. So a bit of information about Megaloo.

1664
01:20:43,492 --> 01:20:46,412
Speaker 3: He was first sighted in nineteen ninety one off the

1665
01:20:46,492 --> 01:20:49,133
Speaker 3: coast of Byron Bay. However, he's not been spotted around

1666
01:20:49,133 --> 01:20:51,572
Speaker 3: Australia since twenty twenty. He was first seen here in

1667
01:20:51,652 --> 01:20:54,213
Speaker 3: twenty fifteen and is no one to travel in New

1668
01:20:54,293 --> 01:20:56,892
Speaker 3: Zealand waters with gaps in citing history and.

1669
01:20:56,933 --> 01:20:59,532
Speaker 2: Everyone says that everyone's up in sticks and leaving New

1670
01:20:59,652 --> 01:21:02,732
Speaker 2: Zealand for Australia, but not Miggaloo Megaloo's I'm coming back.

1671
01:21:02,812 --> 01:21:04,812
Speaker 2: I like New Zealand better. The grass is green here

1672
01:21:05,772 --> 01:21:08,372
Speaker 2: and yeah, not so great over there. Sounds so I

1673
01:21:08,452 --> 01:21:09,653
Speaker 2: rate and Byron bays.

1674
01:21:09,492 --> 01:21:11,612
Speaker 3: Clear that's the sort of migrants we need in New Zealand.

1675
01:21:11,772 --> 01:21:14,852
Speaker 3: But it is an incredible sighting an albino whale only

1676
01:21:14,933 --> 01:21:16,852
Speaker 3: one of four in the world. That's incredible.

1677
01:21:17,013 --> 01:21:20,412
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I get that, but as I said before,

1678
01:21:20,652 --> 01:21:22,492
Speaker 2: I've never seen a whale. I don't care whether it

1679
01:21:22,612 --> 01:21:25,293
Speaker 2: was an albino whale or whatever kind of whale. I

1680
01:21:25,372 --> 01:21:27,013
Speaker 2: just want to see a whale. Of paid in a

1681
01:21:27,093 --> 01:21:30,412
Speaker 2: number of places to go out on whale watching, yep,

1682
01:21:30,812 --> 01:21:34,173
Speaker 2: never had any luck. I've I've seen some dolphins are nice.

1683
01:21:34,333 --> 01:21:36,973
Speaker 2: I've been chased by a sea elephant. I've pissed it

1684
01:21:36,973 --> 01:21:41,013
Speaker 2: around some seals, sea lions, let's go bit of that.

1685
01:21:41,652 --> 01:21:45,093
Speaker 2: But out at sea, I've never seen a Whale's still

1686
01:21:45,133 --> 01:21:48,333
Speaker 2: got whale, and I would love I'd love to see

1687
01:21:48,333 --> 01:21:52,173
Speaker 2: a whale. I love Whalesyeah, huge fan, huge fan. I

1688
01:21:52,213 --> 01:21:54,852
Speaker 2: want to see one up close, and so I e

1689
01:21:54,853 --> 01:21:57,333
Speaker 2: T one hundred and eighty ten eighty. How do you

1690
01:21:57,412 --> 01:22:00,133
Speaker 2: go about actually getting to see a whale because I've

1691
01:22:00,173 --> 01:22:01,852
Speaker 2: paid for the trips. What's the best place to see

1692
01:22:01,853 --> 01:22:03,812
Speaker 2: a whale in New Zealand? Everyone talks about Kai Kora,

1693
01:22:04,253 --> 01:22:06,452
Speaker 2: but I went out in Cokora and it's in sea whale.

1694
01:22:06,492 --> 01:22:07,892
Speaker 2: And I've heard that you can get a voucher now,

1695
01:22:08,412 --> 01:22:09,452
Speaker 2: so if you don't see a whale, you get a

1696
01:22:09,492 --> 01:22:11,253
Speaker 2: voucher to go out again. Yeah, you get another freeb

1697
01:22:11,372 --> 01:22:16,253
Speaker 2: for I've never experienced that, and I've never blamed the

1698
01:22:16,333 --> 01:22:19,053
Speaker 2: people when I've gone out while watching Yeah, because I

1699
01:22:19,133 --> 01:22:21,052
Speaker 2: thought it just there's got to be a certain amount

1700
01:22:21,053 --> 01:22:21,812
Speaker 2: of luck to it, right.

1701
01:22:21,853 --> 01:22:23,572
Speaker 3: You know, that's part of the deal, absolutely, And I

1702
01:22:23,612 --> 01:22:24,213
Speaker 3: think they say that.

1703
01:22:24,572 --> 01:22:29,132
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we want to hear your amazing nature stories,

1704
01:22:29,173 --> 01:22:30,412
Speaker 2: your encounters.

1705
01:22:30,812 --> 01:22:33,652
Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty, and where is the

1706
01:22:33,732 --> 01:22:36,732
Speaker 3: best place for Matt to be able to finally tack

1707
01:22:36,812 --> 01:22:39,053
Speaker 3: that whale? On his Bingo card of Wildlife.

1708
01:22:38,732 --> 01:22:40,852
Speaker 2: John says, Hey, guys, some years ago, my wife and

1709
01:22:40,933 --> 01:22:43,572
Speaker 2: I stood on the footpath of Dupay Bay in central

1710
01:22:43,692 --> 01:22:47,412
Speaker 2: Oregon and watch whales feeding about twenty meters offshore. Wow,

1711
01:22:47,532 --> 01:22:50,652
Speaker 2: Depot Bay is a big whale watching area, but our

1712
01:22:50,692 --> 01:22:53,772
Speaker 2: experience show you didn't even need to leave town to

1713
01:22:53,973 --> 01:22:57,133
Speaker 2: have a great whale experience. I was meeting that's pretty awesome.

1714
01:22:57,692 --> 01:23:01,492
Speaker 2: My mate's got a batch and it's sort of on

1715
01:23:01,532 --> 01:23:05,333
Speaker 2: the beach, and I let's stay up there with him

1716
01:23:05,333 --> 01:23:06,972
Speaker 2: and his lovely wife regularly.

1717
01:23:07,133 --> 01:23:07,333
Speaker 3: Yep.

1718
01:23:07,732 --> 01:23:10,013
Speaker 2: And last time I was up there, they were like, oh,

1719
01:23:10,412 --> 01:23:13,372
Speaker 2: there was a there was a there was a you know,

1720
01:23:13,492 --> 01:23:16,492
Speaker 2: an orcan just eating race just in front of the batch,

1721
01:23:16,692 --> 01:23:18,093
Speaker 2: just fifteen minutes ago.

1722
01:23:18,532 --> 01:23:19,652
Speaker 3: That hurts to hear that for you.

1723
01:23:19,812 --> 01:23:24,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I stupidly stop to get myself a red

1724
01:23:24,412 --> 01:23:27,973
Speaker 2: bull at a at a dairy on the way, and

1725
01:23:28,173 --> 01:23:29,692
Speaker 2: that was the fifteen minute so I didn't get to

1726
01:23:29,692 --> 01:23:32,492
Speaker 2: see the whale. Then I think on something about me

1727
01:23:32,652 --> 01:23:34,492
Speaker 2: that that scares off marine line.

1728
01:23:34,492 --> 01:23:36,093
Speaker 3: Now they must see you coming. Oh eight one hundred

1729
01:23:36,213 --> 01:23:39,612
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call Whale Experiences

1730
01:23:39,772 --> 01:23:43,173
Speaker 3: Where and what happened? Love to hear from you. Nine

1731
01:23:43,213 --> 01:23:44,612
Speaker 3: to nine two is the text number.

1732
01:23:44,812 --> 01:23:48,133
Speaker 2: Has Keisha Castle Hughes written, Migeloo, I don't think so, No,

1733
01:23:48,293 --> 01:23:48,893
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

1734
01:23:49,053 --> 01:23:51,893
Speaker 3: No good texts though ten past three his talks'd be

1735
01:23:52,213 --> 01:23:56,093
Speaker 3: afternoon thirteen past three. We're talking about whale experiences. Love

1736
01:23:56,173 --> 01:23:58,812
Speaker 3: to hear yours. This is after Migloo. Only one of

1737
01:23:59,053 --> 01:24:01,852
Speaker 3: four albino humpbacks in the world, was spotted off the

1738
01:24:01,893 --> 01:24:03,652
Speaker 3: coast of Klake Quarter eight hundred.

1739
01:24:03,772 --> 01:24:06,253
Speaker 2: Wayne says, Matt, you muppet, and Orca is a type

1740
01:24:06,293 --> 01:24:09,213
Speaker 2: of dolphin, not a whale. But I thought because our whales,

1741
01:24:09,293 --> 01:24:14,532
Speaker 2: because the dolphins and dolphins are whales or a type

1742
01:24:14,572 --> 01:24:14,972
Speaker 2: of whale.

1743
01:24:15,053 --> 01:24:17,572
Speaker 3: Well, they call them keller whale. It's kind of in

1744
01:24:17,612 --> 01:24:19,333
Speaker 3: the name, isn't it. Orca keller whale.

1745
01:24:19,452 --> 01:24:21,372
Speaker 2: I know, but they get their names on things wrong

1746
01:24:21,372 --> 01:24:23,492
Speaker 2: all the time, you know, Yeah, because I don't know.

1747
01:24:23,732 --> 01:24:28,333
Speaker 2: But am I right? The or killer whale is a

1748
01:24:28,412 --> 01:24:32,772
Speaker 2: tooth whale and the largest member of the oceanic dolphin family.

1749
01:24:32,973 --> 01:24:33,933
Speaker 3: Well that's confusing, the.

1750
01:24:33,973 --> 01:24:39,213
Speaker 2: Only extent species in the genus or Connie. So yeah,

1751
01:24:39,333 --> 01:24:41,612
Speaker 2: so that's the weird thing. So dolphins are whales. So

1752
01:24:41,652 --> 01:24:43,532
Speaker 2: when I say I haven't really seen a whale, I'm

1753
01:24:43,572 --> 01:24:47,213
Speaker 2: wrong because I've been fishing and there's been dolphins around

1754
01:24:47,253 --> 01:24:48,372
Speaker 2: the boat and that's awesome.

1755
01:24:48,572 --> 01:24:49,532
Speaker 3: Yeah that is.

1756
01:24:49,652 --> 01:24:53,253
Speaker 2: And I've swum with porpoises that is cool. Swamp swung

1757
01:24:53,293 --> 01:24:56,933
Speaker 2: a lot with porpoises down in Otago and Dunedan do.

1758
01:24:56,973 --> 01:24:59,412
Speaker 3: They get pretty close. Yeah, yeah, you're right, I'm with you.

1759
01:24:59,933 --> 01:25:02,053
Speaker 3: Are out That is cool. Oh one hundred and eighty

1760
01:25:02,093 --> 01:25:04,173
Speaker 3: ten eighties number to call. Get Andrew.

1761
01:25:05,692 --> 01:25:08,852
Speaker 8: Nives out chafing down mar Here Peninsula. Well a few

1762
01:25:08,933 --> 01:25:11,293
Speaker 8: years ago now out on the corner of a bay

1763
01:25:11,412 --> 01:25:15,293
Speaker 8: overtime a bay and a big way twenty feet away

1764
01:25:15,452 --> 01:25:20,773
Speaker 8: just surface. So it's you know, it's it's filling, barnacles

1765
01:25:20,812 --> 01:25:22,652
Speaker 8: all over it. And it was a beautiful day water

1766
01:25:22,812 --> 01:25:23,452
Speaker 8: sight to see.

1767
01:25:23,532 --> 01:25:24,293
Speaker 12: I'll never forget it.

1768
01:25:24,532 --> 01:25:26,133
Speaker 2: What kind of world was that, Andrew?

1769
01:25:27,053 --> 01:25:27,293
Speaker 4: I was?

1770
01:25:27,732 --> 01:25:30,052
Speaker 8: I think it was a humpback like I had barnacles

1771
01:25:30,093 --> 01:25:32,532
Speaker 8: on the art. Sure there was. The guys in the

1772
01:25:32,612 --> 01:25:34,612
Speaker 8: mass buys were out in a little boat sort of

1773
01:25:34,732 --> 01:25:35,452
Speaker 8: minus storing up.

1774
01:25:36,492 --> 01:25:39,293
Speaker 2: And so so so what you were You were out

1775
01:25:39,532 --> 01:25:40,692
Speaker 2: in a boat, were you, Andrew?

1776
01:25:41,612 --> 01:25:43,972
Speaker 8: No, we were just outsurfing on the corner of the bay,

1777
01:25:44,093 --> 01:25:45,973
Speaker 8: which was a big bay. And they came around the

1778
01:25:46,053 --> 01:25:49,372
Speaker 8: corner into the bay as we were surfing, and they went.

1779
01:25:49,452 --> 01:25:51,253
Speaker 8: One of them just popped up out of the waters.

1780
01:25:51,692 --> 01:25:53,612
Speaker 8: You know, they blow the air out and it was

1781
01:25:53,692 --> 01:25:56,852
Speaker 8: only like a stone throw. A incredible site and it

1782
01:25:56,973 --> 01:25:59,692
Speaker 8: was a nice sunny day and yeah, just one of

1783
01:25:59,732 --> 01:26:00,812
Speaker 8: those things you just don't forget.

1784
01:26:01,093 --> 01:26:03,093
Speaker 2: And was that was it spiritual or was it a

1785
01:26:03,133 --> 01:26:03,652
Speaker 2: bit scary?

1786
01:26:03,933 --> 01:26:07,253
Speaker 8: Well, no, we weren't scared. We didn't. We got a

1787
01:26:07,293 --> 01:26:09,852
Speaker 8: bit of a fright, you can they're not they're not,

1788
01:26:10,412 --> 01:26:12,293
Speaker 8: They're not going to tick here. And it was just

1789
01:26:12,412 --> 01:26:14,652
Speaker 8: going past and it was just came up and went

1790
01:26:14,772 --> 01:26:18,293
Speaker 8: down again and wow and seeing those barnacles and it

1791
01:26:18,412 --> 01:26:18,612
Speaker 8: was just.

1792
01:26:18,692 --> 01:26:21,532
Speaker 3: Incredible, how cool? And did it get the wee tail

1793
01:26:21,572 --> 01:26:23,133
Speaker 3: up or it kind of just surface for a bet?

1794
01:26:23,213 --> 01:26:23,892
Speaker 3: Did the blowhole?

1795
01:26:23,973 --> 01:26:27,173
Speaker 8: And and then and then the left guy came around

1796
01:26:27,173 --> 01:26:29,972
Speaker 8: the corner after that and waved us and we pointed,

1797
01:26:30,013 --> 01:26:32,772
Speaker 8: and then they gave us the thumbs up. And I'm

1798
01:26:32,772 --> 01:26:36,013
Speaker 8: pretty sure the place where whales go to die. I

1799
01:26:36,053 --> 01:26:37,812
Speaker 8: haven't looked look it up. I can't be sure that,

1800
01:26:37,893 --> 01:26:41,492
Speaker 8: but I've been told that we get a lot of spriendings.

1801
01:26:41,093 --> 01:26:42,133
Speaker 4: In that over time of bow.

1802
01:26:43,492 --> 01:26:47,012
Speaker 2: So you're basically you're basically close enough to get snotted

1803
01:26:47,053 --> 01:26:48,253
Speaker 2: on from the blowhole there.

1804
01:26:48,333 --> 01:26:50,372
Speaker 6: Andrew pretty much, yeah.

1805
01:26:50,452 --> 01:26:54,812
Speaker 8: Pretty much, just really remember it. Well, it was just incredible,

1806
01:26:55,133 --> 01:26:55,492
Speaker 8: how good?

1807
01:26:55,612 --> 01:26:56,013
Speaker 2: How good?

1808
01:26:56,053 --> 01:26:56,333
Speaker 8: You see?

1809
01:26:56,333 --> 01:26:58,293
Speaker 2: That's this is this is what I wanted in my life.

1810
01:26:58,253 --> 01:26:59,372
Speaker 3: Is getting getting your fizzed up.

1811
01:26:59,372 --> 01:27:00,013
Speaker 18: I want I want a.

1812
01:26:59,973 --> 01:27:03,293
Speaker 2: Whale to surface near me. When doy you've seen a

1813
01:27:03,293 --> 01:27:04,253
Speaker 2: bunch of whales in your.

1814
01:27:04,173 --> 01:27:10,492
Speaker 24: Time several times, it's I can tell you somewhere you

1815
01:27:10,572 --> 01:27:16,252
Speaker 24: can go. You're absolutely guaranteed to see a whale because

1816
01:27:17,133 --> 01:27:20,572
Speaker 24: the skip of refuses to come in to shore until

1817
01:27:20,612 --> 01:27:20,812
Speaker 24: you do.

1818
01:27:21,572 --> 01:27:22,612
Speaker 3: That sounds like a good person.

1819
01:27:23,853 --> 01:27:29,812
Speaker 24: And this particular day we were out the weather was

1820
01:27:29,933 --> 01:27:36,532
Speaker 24: absolutely beautiful and I have a mess, and the skipper

1821
01:27:36,572 --> 01:27:40,932
Speaker 24: said to me, I guarantee the boat the whale will

1822
01:27:41,013 --> 01:27:44,692
Speaker 24: come near you. And it certainly did. It came as

1823
01:27:44,853 --> 01:27:46,852
Speaker 24: close to the boat as I was able to touch.

1824
01:27:46,933 --> 01:27:46,973
Speaker 8: It.

1825
01:27:48,572 --> 01:27:53,093
Speaker 24: Absolutely extraordinary because he thought that I would come to

1826
01:27:53,452 --> 01:27:57,892
Speaker 24: come near you because of your condition. Yes, and he said,

1827
01:27:57,893 --> 01:28:00,532
Speaker 24: it's very strange that when he has people who are

1828
01:28:00,572 --> 01:28:05,093
Speaker 24: compromised on the boat, that they always come to the

1829
01:28:05,173 --> 01:28:06,812
Speaker 24: boat where that person is.

1830
01:28:07,213 --> 01:28:07,452
Speaker 2: Wow.

1831
01:28:07,612 --> 01:28:10,852
Speaker 24: And that actually happened. But what we used to do

1832
01:28:11,412 --> 01:28:13,572
Speaker 24: was because it was certainly more than you know. I

1833
01:28:13,692 --> 01:28:15,532
Speaker 24: must have gone out on it half a dozen times,

1834
01:28:15,572 --> 01:28:17,772
Speaker 24: and I have to admit it was my brother's well

1835
01:28:17,812 --> 01:28:22,852
Speaker 24: watch business. And yeah, so you know we got it

1836
01:28:22,893 --> 01:28:26,253
Speaker 24: at a pretty good price. But you go out for

1837
01:28:26,333 --> 01:28:29,293
Speaker 24: the day. And like I said, he refused to come

1838
01:28:29,333 --> 01:28:31,812
Speaker 24: in until you had actually seen a whale, and you

1839
01:28:32,013 --> 01:28:37,013
Speaker 24: usually saw several and they would be jumping, they'd be

1840
01:28:37,093 --> 01:28:41,372
Speaker 24: tail flapping, that'd be just about everything that you would

1841
01:28:41,412 --> 01:28:42,972
Speaker 24: want to see that a whale does.

1842
01:28:43,213 --> 01:28:43,933
Speaker 3: It's incredible.

1843
01:28:45,532 --> 01:28:48,972
Speaker 24: And what we used to do is yell and scream

1844
01:28:49,053 --> 01:28:52,572
Speaker 24: and wave your arms and they came to the boat.

1845
01:28:53,973 --> 01:28:54,213
Speaker 8: Wow.

1846
01:28:55,013 --> 01:28:59,853
Speaker 24: Now I'm not kidding. It sounds extraordinary, but it's absolutely

1847
01:28:59,933 --> 01:29:04,133
Speaker 24: how it happened. And this is only reasonably recent. He

1848
01:29:04,253 --> 01:29:08,133
Speaker 24: sold the business probably, oh, I don't know, a year,

1849
01:29:08,333 --> 01:29:13,293
Speaker 24: eighteen months ago. The business is called Freedom Well Watch,

1850
01:29:14,492 --> 01:29:21,973
Speaker 24: but certainly it's in Australia, I see. But if you

1851
01:29:22,293 --> 01:29:25,293
Speaker 24: if you're absolutely one of those people, that's just it's

1852
01:29:25,452 --> 01:29:28,133
Speaker 24: like going to see the gorillas. If you actually want

1853
01:29:28,213 --> 01:29:31,612
Speaker 24: to go and see a whale, that was the place

1854
01:29:31,692 --> 01:29:31,812
Speaker 24: to go.

1855
01:29:31,893 --> 01:29:35,172
Speaker 2: And I understand where whereabouts is Freedom Well Watch operating

1856
01:29:35,333 --> 01:29:36,052
Speaker 2: out of Wendy.

1857
01:29:36,893 --> 01:29:39,852
Speaker 24: It's operating out of Harvey Bay, which is just three

1858
01:29:39,893 --> 01:29:43,173
Speaker 24: hours north of Brisbane, right, so easy enough to get to,

1859
01:29:44,412 --> 01:29:46,812
Speaker 24: no problem at all. And you know, google it you'll

1860
01:29:46,973 --> 01:29:51,013
Speaker 24: see freedom on the net. And like I say, if

1861
01:29:51,013 --> 01:29:52,732
Speaker 24: you're one of those people that's starting to go and

1862
01:29:52,812 --> 01:29:55,333
Speaker 24: see a whale, then then.

1863
01:29:55,532 --> 01:29:59,532
Speaker 2: Then that's a good freedom. Whale watches is a good option.

1864
01:29:59,692 --> 01:30:02,932
Speaker 2: Harvey Bay, all right, thank you for thank you for that, Wendy.

1865
01:30:03,213 --> 01:30:05,293
Speaker 3: That is a great tip. I wait, und eighty ten

1866
01:30:05,372 --> 01:30:07,972
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call. Plenty of texts coming

1867
01:30:08,013 --> 01:30:09,892
Speaker 3: through nine two ninety two as well.

1868
01:30:10,652 --> 01:30:14,572
Speaker 2: Where's where's Copeland's Bakery? I don't know. I think there's

1869
01:30:14,572 --> 01:30:17,532
Speaker 2: a few right around. Are there is that a branch?

1870
01:30:17,532 --> 01:30:19,132
Speaker 2: Because it just someone saying that you can see whales

1871
01:30:19,133 --> 01:30:21,532
Speaker 2: out in the front of Copeland's Bakery most days.

1872
01:30:21,572 --> 01:30:23,412
Speaker 3: Well, that's easy to find each you mate, you can

1873
01:30:23,492 --> 01:30:24,812
Speaker 3: hit down there after work if you want.

1874
01:30:25,492 --> 01:30:26,253
Speaker 2: But it's not at sea.

1875
01:30:26,812 --> 01:30:27,692
Speaker 3: No, it's not at sea.

1876
01:30:27,812 --> 01:30:29,612
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you for that.

1877
01:30:29,732 --> 01:30:32,452
Speaker 3: Tick slack right, and it's nineteen bars three back in

1878
01:30:32,492 --> 01:30:34,292
Speaker 3: the mo oh eighte hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1879
01:30:38,173 --> 01:30:41,572
Speaker 1: Mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred and

1880
01:30:41,612 --> 01:30:43,732
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on Youth Talk ZB.

1881
01:30:43,853 --> 01:30:47,372
Speaker 3: Twenty two past three. We're talking about whale experiences you've had.

1882
01:30:48,213 --> 01:30:50,732
Speaker 2: So so you know, the thing is people are acting

1883
01:30:50,893 --> 01:30:53,492
Speaker 2: like I haven't been out on the water. I'm out

1884
01:30:53,492 --> 01:30:55,213
Speaker 2: on the water fishing a lot you are, and then

1885
01:30:55,213 --> 01:30:59,532
Speaker 2: the hodeck you golf a lot you know, and uh

1886
01:31:00,173 --> 01:31:02,732
Speaker 2: fang dudu bay. I'm all around here. Yeah, I'm fishing

1887
01:31:02,772 --> 01:31:04,572
Speaker 2: all I'm out there all the time. That's why I'm

1888
01:31:04,572 --> 01:31:06,372
Speaker 2: saying it's so weird that I never see whales.

1889
01:31:06,452 --> 01:31:08,612
Speaker 3: There should be plenty of whales to see. If everybody

1890
01:31:08,612 --> 01:31:09,253
Speaker 3: else has seen.

1891
01:31:09,133 --> 01:31:12,212
Speaker 2: One, see I've got there's something about me that repels

1892
01:31:13,293 --> 01:31:16,692
Speaker 2: marine mammals. The stick says you're missing an opportunity to

1893
01:31:16,732 --> 01:31:19,732
Speaker 2: weaponize the Heath effect. Think how many whale strandings could

1894
01:31:19,732 --> 01:31:20,572
Speaker 2: be saved you around.

1895
01:31:20,612 --> 01:31:22,412
Speaker 3: That's right, there's a great point. We need to station

1896
01:31:22,532 --> 01:31:23,252
Speaker 3: you at farewells.

1897
01:31:23,293 --> 01:31:26,972
Speaker 2: But if you think some a POD's about to strand itself,

1898
01:31:27,333 --> 01:31:29,372
Speaker 2: invite me down for a look and they'll head back

1899
01:31:29,412 --> 01:31:30,652
Speaker 2: out to see Project Jonah.

1900
01:31:30,692 --> 01:31:33,093
Speaker 3: If you need a whale caller, Mad Heath is standing by.

1901
01:31:34,572 --> 01:31:35,293
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

1902
01:31:36,492 --> 01:31:40,213
Speaker 4: Yeah, good mate. I'm not going to talk about a

1903
01:31:40,293 --> 01:31:43,013
Speaker 4: whale and counter all though I have seen one on

1904
01:31:43,173 --> 01:31:47,333
Speaker 4: the kai Kura thing and wasn't that impressed on it.

1905
01:31:47,412 --> 01:31:50,372
Speaker 2: Stalled the tail, but that tell's pretty good bit of it.

1906
01:31:51,612 --> 01:31:55,412
Speaker 4: My call actually comes under the Umbrella of wild Life

1907
01:31:55,532 --> 01:31:59,053
Speaker 4: and Counsel, which I heard. I said, I heard you mention,

1908
01:31:59,253 --> 01:32:02,333
Speaker 4: and I've not been able to get out of my

1909
01:32:02,452 --> 01:32:06,452
Speaker 4: head for the last two or three weeks. Your tale

1910
01:32:06,572 --> 01:32:08,293
Speaker 4: about being followed.

1911
01:32:08,053 --> 01:32:11,532
Speaker 2: Home by a rat, Yeah, that's in Fulham.

1912
01:32:13,173 --> 01:32:18,013
Speaker 4: I just find that hideously horrible and quite quite amazing

1913
01:32:18,333 --> 01:32:21,532
Speaker 4: that you know that could happen. I guess being followed

1914
01:32:21,572 --> 01:32:25,093
Speaker 4: home by by a lion might be worse, but you

1915
01:32:25,213 --> 01:32:26,852
Speaker 4: followed home by a rat.

1916
01:32:27,293 --> 01:32:30,053
Speaker 2: It was a huge It was a huge rat. To Dave,

1917
01:32:30,133 --> 01:32:33,213
Speaker 2: it's if it's haunting your your thoughts, think what it's

1918
01:32:33,253 --> 01:32:36,732
Speaker 2: done to me. I couldn't believe it. I was walking along,

1919
01:32:36,812 --> 01:32:38,932
Speaker 2: it was following me, and then it's and it sped

1920
01:32:39,013 --> 01:32:40,892
Speaker 2: up when I sped up. And then then it followed

1921
01:32:40,933 --> 01:32:42,892
Speaker 2: me down the stairs because it was a basement apartment.

1922
01:32:42,973 --> 01:32:44,452
Speaker 2: And then I shut the door and it scratched on

1923
01:32:44,532 --> 01:32:46,973
Speaker 2: the door. It was out to get me. This that

1924
01:32:47,213 --> 01:32:49,532
Speaker 2: London rats are a different kind of thing. I think

1925
01:32:49,572 --> 01:32:51,372
Speaker 2: this was king rat. I think there was the head

1926
01:32:51,412 --> 01:32:51,892
Speaker 2: of the rat.

1927
01:32:53,692 --> 01:32:57,053
Speaker 4: I can't imagine anything worse than that. And I think

1928
01:32:57,133 --> 01:33:02,333
Speaker 4: it's a great tale. And yeah, I don't know what

1929
01:33:02,492 --> 01:33:04,772
Speaker 4: could be worse than being followed home by a rat.

1930
01:33:05,013 --> 01:33:06,732
Speaker 2: No, I think it's unfair. Thank you for cool, Dave.

1931
01:33:06,732 --> 01:33:08,452
Speaker 2: I think it's unfair that I've seen one of the

1932
01:33:08,492 --> 01:33:12,372
Speaker 2: great rats and happily trade in that rat for for

1933
01:33:12,612 --> 01:33:15,092
Speaker 2: just just the tip of a tale of a whale.

1934
01:33:15,173 --> 01:33:17,452
Speaker 3: That is a beautiful wildlife experience, I've got to say, mate,

1935
01:33:17,492 --> 01:33:19,173
Speaker 3: being stalked by king rat Mark.

1936
01:33:19,412 --> 01:33:20,852
Speaker 2: You've seen some whales in Southland.

1937
01:33:22,173 --> 01:33:25,652
Speaker 12: Actually the i've seen free because I'm from Toned and

1938
01:33:25,732 --> 01:33:29,213
Speaker 12: so I remember Mum taking me out. I know, I

1939
01:33:29,333 --> 01:33:34,372
Speaker 12: know how those target boys got a rugly Anyway, anyway,

1940
01:33:34,412 --> 01:33:38,732
Speaker 12: we were out yeah Alpatara heads out their way by

1941
01:33:38,812 --> 01:33:42,933
Speaker 12: the albatross colony out there, I must have ten and

1942
01:33:43,093 --> 01:33:46,612
Speaker 12: I spotted these whales coming in and there was a

1943
01:33:46,652 --> 01:33:50,253
Speaker 12: big bull and a couple of carbs and must have

1944
01:33:50,253 --> 01:33:52,333
Speaker 12: been a couple of female and there actually were sperm

1945
01:33:52,372 --> 01:33:56,572
Speaker 12: whales right yeah, because you know where you stand over

1946
01:33:56,652 --> 01:33:58,333
Speaker 12: his offence and you can look up where all the

1947
01:33:58,372 --> 01:34:00,452
Speaker 12: albatrosses are like it's a messive drop.

1948
01:34:01,933 --> 01:34:02,772
Speaker 4: Yeah it was.

1949
01:34:03,133 --> 01:34:05,772
Speaker 12: That was really impressive. And then the last two times

1950
01:34:05,933 --> 01:34:07,652
Speaker 12: was when we went to and Picago. I took the

1951
01:34:07,732 --> 01:34:11,852
Speaker 12: kids and led to Bluff and it was a horrendous day,

1952
01:34:11,973 --> 01:34:14,852
Speaker 12: like you know, slideways rain like everything in the vocagulary

1953
01:34:14,853 --> 01:34:18,532
Speaker 12: were in the slideways and a couple of whales were

1954
01:34:18,572 --> 01:34:20,973
Speaker 12: coming in the inlet and it was low tide, so

1955
01:34:21,772 --> 01:34:23,572
Speaker 12: the local said it was pretty unusual and they come

1956
01:34:23,612 --> 01:34:26,333
Speaker 12: in during low tide. But the most impressive that we

1957
01:34:26,412 --> 01:34:28,732
Speaker 12: saw would have been a couple of years ago. Took

1958
01:34:28,732 --> 01:34:32,052
Speaker 12: the kids down fishing down Riverton, just in the esteys.

1959
01:34:32,093 --> 01:34:34,372
Speaker 12: The inlet comes in by the coast guard down there,

1960
01:34:34,652 --> 01:34:36,452
Speaker 12: and we were wondering why all the skate and the

1961
01:34:36,532 --> 01:34:39,253
Speaker 12: sting rays was flying in and out of the water.

1962
01:34:40,093 --> 01:34:45,612
Speaker 12: Well when it comes a family of walkers, wow, chasing them.

1963
01:34:45,732 --> 01:34:50,333
Speaker 12: You know that it was really really impressive. But I

1964
01:34:50,452 --> 01:34:53,893
Speaker 12: didn't realize walkers. I think it's the Southern ones, you know,

1965
01:34:53,973 --> 01:34:57,053
Speaker 12: the ones that hang around Antarctica in our area. They

1966
01:34:57,053 --> 01:35:00,852
Speaker 12: are predominantly carnival like, you know, they'll eat the seal

1967
01:35:00,933 --> 01:35:03,372
Speaker 12: and dolphins and everything else. And I think it's a

1968
01:35:03,492 --> 01:35:07,173
Speaker 12: normal ones that hang up in Northern Hemisphere predominantly eat fish.

1969
01:35:07,492 --> 01:35:11,372
Speaker 2: So I even knew that, right, Yeah, because the ones

1970
01:35:11,532 --> 01:35:14,772
Speaker 2: intact away, well, they'll they'll hustle a seal. Yep, they

1971
01:35:14,853 --> 01:35:15,812
Speaker 2: also Hassle a penguin.

1972
01:35:17,213 --> 01:35:24,732
Speaker 12: Yeah, and also on my homotopic of rats, and we

1973
01:35:24,853 --> 01:35:29,133
Speaker 12: were shifting pellets and of course he's had boxes and

1974
01:35:29,372 --> 01:35:31,452
Speaker 12: of course they got and cleaned them. There was this

1975
01:35:31,732 --> 01:35:34,133
Speaker 12: one big rat that come out and he just up

1976
01:35:34,173 --> 01:35:36,133
Speaker 12: on the fence post and he looked at me and

1977
01:35:36,293 --> 01:35:38,173
Speaker 12: you know what, he reminded me of your big zip

1978
01:35:38,293 --> 01:35:39,652
Speaker 12: on a white buyer's nose.

1979
01:35:39,692 --> 01:35:41,612
Speaker 23: You know who reminded me of who.

1980
01:35:44,053 --> 01:35:44,173
Speaker 15: Is it?

1981
01:35:44,412 --> 01:35:45,812
Speaker 12: Is it Tyler? Remember you had Tyler?

1982
01:35:47,853 --> 01:35:51,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, very good marks, a good memory memory of yours.

1983
01:35:51,412 --> 01:35:53,812
Speaker 2: Just it's not even a scar tiler I do.

1984
01:35:53,973 --> 01:35:55,612
Speaker 3: I ut meant like that quite often as well.

1985
01:35:55,652 --> 01:35:57,652
Speaker 2: Mate, Hey, do you know what I've been You know

1986
01:35:57,732 --> 01:35:59,973
Speaker 2: the have you ever been out on the Monarch that

1987
01:36:00,812 --> 01:36:03,492
Speaker 2: that that you can go out and out of out

1988
01:36:03,532 --> 01:36:05,492
Speaker 2: of Dunedin to go and look around and it sails

1989
01:36:05,532 --> 01:36:07,612
Speaker 2: out towards tyro Head. I've been out on the Monarch

1990
01:36:08,133 --> 01:36:11,333
Speaker 2: for times. I love that and I've seen, you know,

1991
01:36:11,372 --> 01:36:13,372
Speaker 2: you see some great stuff out there and you know

1992
01:36:13,412 --> 01:36:16,692
Speaker 2: obviously been out to tyro Head. So that's part of

1993
01:36:16,732 --> 01:36:18,213
Speaker 2: the reason why I'm so gutted that I have never

1994
01:36:18,253 --> 01:36:20,133
Speaker 2: seen a while because you think you're back yourself to

1995
01:36:20,133 --> 01:36:21,892
Speaker 2: see a whale on the on the monarch.

1996
01:36:24,372 --> 01:36:26,852
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, no I haven't, but you'd go out. We

1997
01:36:27,452 --> 01:36:30,772
Speaker 12: recently were Aramajuana and take a big walk along that

1998
01:36:30,933 --> 01:36:33,133
Speaker 12: big clay like you.

1999
01:36:33,173 --> 01:36:33,892
Speaker 4: Think it's a male.

2000
01:36:34,013 --> 01:36:35,213
Speaker 12: It's not. Actually it's the mole.

2001
01:36:35,372 --> 01:36:35,732
Speaker 16: The male.

2002
01:36:35,812 --> 01:36:36,652
Speaker 12: Yeah, and.

2003
01:36:38,532 --> 01:36:40,333
Speaker 2: And you'll see a seal on that.

2004
01:36:42,492 --> 01:36:49,372
Speaker 12: They stink off that mole. Talking about wildlife, my dad

2005
01:36:49,452 --> 01:36:52,692
Speaker 12: was in sixty eight, when he was eighteen, Him and

2006
01:36:52,772 --> 01:36:54,732
Speaker 12: his mates were fishing off the all. They're right down

2007
01:36:54,772 --> 01:37:00,892
Speaker 12: below and this big great white shark just glided right

2008
01:37:01,173 --> 01:37:04,213
Speaker 12: in front of them, and I'm talking about a meter away. Well, unfortunately,

2009
01:37:04,213 --> 01:37:05,812
Speaker 12: a week later, I don't know if you know, but

2010
01:37:05,973 --> 01:37:09,052
Speaker 12: it's sort of in the history books with the shark attacks.

2011
01:37:09,093 --> 01:37:12,772
Speaker 12: A young UNI student was out there spear fishing and

2012
01:37:12,853 --> 01:37:15,892
Speaker 12: he was tacked attacked a week later. My dad's always

2013
01:37:15,933 --> 01:37:19,133
Speaker 12: hel guiltful that because he turned around and said, like today,

2014
01:37:19,133 --> 01:37:20,972
Speaker 12: if we were set a great white shark somewhere where

2015
01:37:20,973 --> 01:37:24,732
Speaker 12: people fish and swim, you genuinely notified doc right, and

2016
01:37:25,853 --> 01:37:27,652
Speaker 12: they reckon it could have been the same. But yeah,

2017
01:37:27,893 --> 01:37:30,932
Speaker 12: but that's that was my dad's wildlife encounter. You'll never

2018
01:37:31,013 --> 01:37:33,652
Speaker 12: forget that, he said, he was eighteen years old, and

2019
01:37:33,772 --> 01:37:35,852
Speaker 12: they will never forget there was a massive great white

2020
01:37:35,893 --> 01:37:38,932
Speaker 12: shark and they ran dropped the rods and ran ran

2021
01:37:39,013 --> 01:37:39,812
Speaker 12: up the side of the knoll.

2022
01:37:40,053 --> 01:37:43,732
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's something I'm not so keen.

2023
01:37:43,893 --> 01:37:44,852
Speaker 3: Yes, that would be terriful.

2024
01:37:44,853 --> 01:37:47,532
Speaker 2: I've seen the old I've seen the old Marco out

2025
01:37:47,572 --> 01:37:47,892
Speaker 2: at sea.

2026
01:37:48,053 --> 01:37:48,492
Speaker 3: That's enough.

2027
01:37:48,692 --> 01:37:50,532
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's enough in terms of sharks. But a great

2028
01:37:50,572 --> 01:37:53,932
Speaker 2: white Marco. But the snapper off my son's fish line

2029
01:37:53,973 --> 01:37:56,133
Speaker 2: at one point. Goot a good shot of that. Yeah,

2030
01:37:56,333 --> 01:37:59,612
Speaker 2: it's a good feed for size Marko. Yeah, would you

2031
01:37:59,612 --> 01:38:02,093
Speaker 2: ever get one of those shark cages? I think they

2032
01:38:02,133 --> 01:38:03,933
Speaker 2: do that down in Bluff, don't they. I've been in

2033
01:38:04,013 --> 01:38:07,052
Speaker 2: the shark cage in Kelly Touttan's Underwater World, floating around

2034
01:38:07,053 --> 01:38:07,852
Speaker 2: with the tiger sharks.

2035
01:38:07,893 --> 01:38:08,173
Speaker 3: How was that?

2036
01:38:08,452 --> 01:38:10,572
Speaker 2: That's pretty cool? Yeah, A weird thing happens when you

2037
01:38:10,652 --> 01:38:13,013
Speaker 2: spend a lot of time really close to sharks. Are

2038
01:38:13,053 --> 01:38:16,772
Speaker 2: really weird things happens. Okay, they suddenly just become big

2039
01:38:16,853 --> 01:38:20,452
Speaker 2: fish because there's so much mystique around them. And we've

2040
01:38:20,452 --> 01:38:24,133
Speaker 2: all seen jaws, we've all seen deep Blue and and

2041
01:38:24,532 --> 01:38:28,372
Speaker 2: you know the meg and the meg too. Yeah, but

2042
01:38:28,973 --> 01:38:32,852
Speaker 2: they are big fish. Yeah, yeah, just characters. That seems

2043
01:38:32,893 --> 01:38:34,492
Speaker 2: like a stupid thing to say, but.

2044
01:38:34,572 --> 01:38:36,532
Speaker 3: Again I'll get what you mean that there's this big

2045
01:38:36,612 --> 01:38:38,452
Speaker 3: thing that's built up with sharks, and then when you're

2046
01:38:38,492 --> 01:38:40,973
Speaker 3: in there and you stop feeling that fear and you

2047
01:38:41,093 --> 01:38:42,452
Speaker 3: just see you're just a cute little fish.

2048
01:38:42,532 --> 01:38:44,093
Speaker 2: It's a bit different if it was a great white.

2049
01:38:44,133 --> 01:38:44,532
Speaker 2: I'm sure.

2050
01:38:44,692 --> 01:38:47,492
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

2051
01:38:47,532 --> 01:38:50,732
Speaker 3: of core wildlife experiences love to hear yours. It is

2052
01:38:50,853 --> 01:38:51,692
Speaker 3: banging on hYP us.

2053
01:38:51,732 --> 01:38:57,852
Speaker 14: Three US talks the headlines with blue bubble taxis, it's

2054
01:38:57,973 --> 01:39:01,772
Speaker 14: no trouble with a blue bubble. Former Chapati Marti staffer

2055
01:39:02,013 --> 01:39:05,652
Speaker 14: Edu Kappakinghi has issued a state mentor, but documents released

2056
01:39:05,732 --> 01:39:09,212
Speaker 14: by the party alleging he threatened part of menary staffers

2057
01:39:09,492 --> 01:39:12,972
Speaker 14: and made inappropriate remarks. He says he joined the party

2058
01:39:13,093 --> 01:39:16,532
Speaker 14: wanting to create a better world and instead learned power

2059
01:39:16,652 --> 01:39:20,452
Speaker 14: can truly corrupt people. New Zealand's welcoming the guards of

2060
01:39:20,532 --> 01:39:24,253
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2061
01:39:24,293 --> 01:39:27,372
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2062
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2063
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2067
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2070
01:40:00,213 --> 01:40:02,092
Speaker 14: Now back to matt Ethan Tyna Adams.

2071
01:40:02,213 --> 01:40:05,532
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Rayleen. It is twenty six to form.

2072
01:40:05,572 --> 01:40:08,532
Speaker 3: We're talking about wild experiences and wildlife experience, So is

2073
01:40:08,652 --> 01:40:11,052
Speaker 3: keen to hear yours h eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

2074
01:40:11,293 --> 01:40:13,612
Speaker 2: It sounds like you've been pretty unlucky, Matts is this text?

2075
01:40:13,772 --> 01:40:18,052
Speaker 2: I've only been boat fishing about four times around Hodaki

2076
01:40:18,133 --> 01:40:20,732
Speaker 2: Golf and dolphins have been chasing our boat at least twice,

2077
01:40:20,973 --> 01:40:23,253
Speaker 2: and saw a few whales surfacing and splashing around. But

2078
01:40:23,293 --> 01:40:25,133
Speaker 2: the most amazing thing I ever saw was when I

2079
01:40:25,213 --> 01:40:28,133
Speaker 2: was snorkeling a school of baby squid who had seemed

2080
01:40:28,213 --> 01:40:30,452
Speaker 2: very curious about the strange creature that had come into

2081
01:40:30,452 --> 01:40:34,092
Speaker 2: their midst. They were all maintaining a presence precise distance

2082
01:40:34,173 --> 01:40:36,812
Speaker 2: from each other and from me, which had the effect

2083
01:40:36,853 --> 01:40:40,372
Speaker 2: of them appearing like a concave lens. Wow, a wall

2084
01:40:40,412 --> 01:40:43,452
Speaker 2: of eyes watching me. You can definitely tell they have

2085
01:40:43,532 --> 01:40:46,532
Speaker 2: intelligence beyond normal fish. Will they do? Don't they?

2086
01:40:46,893 --> 01:40:47,932
Speaker 3: That is quite terrifying.

2087
01:40:48,293 --> 01:40:50,532
Speaker 2: I often think, what does okay? I often think with

2088
01:40:50,692 --> 01:40:53,173
Speaker 2: whales and dolphins and such, what do they think when

2089
01:40:53,213 --> 01:40:55,253
Speaker 2: they see these monkeys out on a boat? And the

2090
01:40:55,333 --> 01:40:57,013
Speaker 2: thing they don't know is that we're just we're just

2091
01:40:57,093 --> 01:41:00,972
Speaker 2: the surface of it, because you know, they when they surface,

2092
01:41:01,452 --> 01:41:03,293
Speaker 2: because I don't know, they can't see the cities we

2093
01:41:03,452 --> 01:41:07,333
Speaker 2: have and the and the you know, the traffic jams

2094
01:41:07,412 --> 01:41:11,213
Speaker 2: and the fact that we're sending people into space. So

2095
01:41:11,293 --> 01:41:13,452
Speaker 2: they just see some monkeys floating around trying to pull

2096
01:41:13,492 --> 01:41:15,492
Speaker 2: some fish out, and they go, that's interesting you guys

2097
01:41:15,572 --> 01:41:17,932
Speaker 2: up to But they've got no idea but the extent

2098
01:41:18,013 --> 01:41:19,213
Speaker 2: of it. I mean, every now and then they'd come

2099
01:41:19,213 --> 01:41:22,452
Speaker 2: across a container ship or or a cruise ship and go, well,

2100
01:41:22,492 --> 01:41:25,333
Speaker 2: that's that's huge. But their perspective us of us is

2101
01:41:25,412 --> 01:41:28,413
Speaker 2: very intelligent. Beings must be very odd.

2102
01:41:28,333 --> 01:41:30,572
Speaker 3: They seem to think we're right though. I mean, dolphins

2103
01:41:30,612 --> 01:41:33,452
Speaker 3: could could really do some damage if they wanted to,

2104
01:41:33,532 --> 01:41:34,492
Speaker 3: but they seem to like us.

2105
01:41:34,652 --> 01:41:39,133
Speaker 2: Well, relations between human and wale haven't always always been

2106
01:41:39,173 --> 01:41:41,253
Speaker 2: that good, I mean very true. Yeah, every now and

2107
01:41:41,293 --> 01:41:47,133
Speaker 2: then we'll whip out a harpoon. Captain ahead, welcome your

2108
01:41:47,173 --> 01:41:47,812
Speaker 2: well story.

2109
01:41:49,452 --> 01:41:55,333
Speaker 23: Yeah, I actually have a story that really ready touched me.

2110
01:41:55,732 --> 01:41:59,372
Speaker 23: I was on the east coast of Africa. I was surfing.

2111
01:41:59,452 --> 01:42:02,893
Speaker 23: It was it was a rainy day over cars, it was.

2112
01:42:03,293 --> 01:42:08,093
Speaker 23: The back line was very calm, and I saw some

2113
01:42:08,492 --> 01:42:10,933
Speaker 23: disturbed water sort of right next to me, about a

2114
01:42:11,093 --> 01:42:13,532
Speaker 23: meter or two away, And the next thing, I saw

2115
01:42:13,572 --> 01:42:18,412
Speaker 23: a massive whale shark come up. And so I sort

2116
01:42:18,452 --> 01:42:21,293
Speaker 23: of sat there and shock a little bit, trying to

2117
01:42:21,372 --> 01:42:23,972
Speaker 23: understand what I wanted to do. And so I took

2118
01:42:24,013 --> 01:42:26,532
Speaker 23: my leash off and I decided I was going to

2119
01:42:27,053 --> 01:42:30,732
Speaker 23: hold onto this weale shark's dorsal and swim a bit

2120
01:42:30,812 --> 01:42:33,852
Speaker 23: of it. And so I did. And the whale sharks

2121
01:42:33,893 --> 01:42:37,213
Speaker 23: that have started, you know, going down thinking what the

2122
01:42:37,293 --> 01:42:41,692
Speaker 23: hell is hanging on to me? And I try, I

2123
01:42:41,772 --> 01:42:44,293
Speaker 23: try to hang on as much as I covid At

2124
01:42:44,333 --> 01:42:48,652
Speaker 23: about ten meters deep. I started getting a little scar

2125
01:42:48,732 --> 01:42:51,973
Speaker 23: because light was fading and I had this massive thing

2126
01:42:52,013 --> 01:42:54,013
Speaker 23: and I saw let go and watched it sort of

2127
01:42:54,372 --> 01:42:56,612
Speaker 23: swim away into the distance. But yeah, it was something

2128
01:42:57,053 --> 01:43:00,732
Speaker 23: something really cool and I'll never forget. So not a whale,

2129
01:43:00,853 --> 01:43:01,812
Speaker 23: but a whale shark.

2130
01:43:01,933 --> 01:43:05,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, but a big shock. And you, I guess with

2131
01:43:06,053 --> 01:43:07,852
Speaker 2: a weal shark, you know it's not going to be

2132
01:43:07,893 --> 01:43:10,812
Speaker 2: interested in eating you, which is which is helpful, isn't it?

2133
01:43:12,253 --> 01:43:13,093
Speaker 2: That was the part.

2134
01:43:13,173 --> 01:43:16,253
Speaker 23: Yeah, I didn't have any to eat me, but yeah, ready.

2135
01:43:16,093 --> 01:43:20,852
Speaker 2: Coin, that's great, thank you for that. So this this

2136
01:43:21,013 --> 01:43:21,812
Speaker 2: sharks going is it?

2137
01:43:21,893 --> 01:43:22,013
Speaker 8: You know?

2138
01:43:22,133 --> 01:43:23,692
Speaker 2: See what's this creature doing? This monkey?

2139
01:43:24,013 --> 01:43:27,452
Speaker 3: Where's he grabbed my dorsal for? And what's going on here?

2140
01:43:27,452 --> 01:43:28,492
Speaker 3: I was just having a nice swim.

2141
01:43:28,893 --> 01:43:32,133
Speaker 2: Well, well sharks, and I think well sharks are one

2142
01:43:32,133 --> 01:43:36,052
Speaker 2: of the oldest sharks, you know, evolutionarily speaking, well sharks

2143
01:43:36,093 --> 01:43:37,772
Speaker 2: have been around for about as long as sharks have

2144
01:43:37,853 --> 01:43:38,253
Speaker 2: been around.

2145
01:43:38,812 --> 01:43:39,612
Speaker 3: Pretty funky looking.

2146
01:43:39,692 --> 01:43:42,692
Speaker 2: Hey, thanks for sharing, Chad, appreciate that great story. Darren,

2147
01:43:43,293 --> 01:43:45,172
Speaker 2: You've had some wild experiences in Australia.

2148
01:43:46,452 --> 01:43:49,372
Speaker 22: Yeah, just to concur if the lady had called earlier

2149
01:43:49,452 --> 01:43:51,253
Speaker 22: Harvey Bay, we just went up there.

2150
01:43:52,093 --> 01:43:52,692
Speaker 6: Two weeks ago.

2151
01:43:52,812 --> 01:43:56,213
Speaker 22: Actually we hired a cadmaran six of us and for

2152
01:43:56,372 --> 01:43:59,932
Speaker 22: five nights, and that's the main migration path up through

2153
01:44:00,293 --> 01:44:04,173
Speaker 22: up past Fraser Island, and we saw more whales than

2154
01:44:04,173 --> 01:44:06,852
Speaker 22: you could poke a stick out. I mean, we sailed

2155
01:44:06,893 --> 01:44:07,412
Speaker 22: to the top of.

2156
01:44:07,412 --> 01:44:12,372
Speaker 6: The island one night. The water, Yeah, the water was light.

2157
01:44:12,333 --> 01:44:14,772
Speaker 22: Glass, which was great because the next night wasn't so great,

2158
01:44:14,772 --> 01:44:18,173
Speaker 22: and I was actually feeding the whales but over the

2159
01:44:18,213 --> 01:44:22,612
Speaker 22: back of the boat. But on the first night we

2160
01:44:22,853 --> 01:44:24,173
Speaker 22: moored about.

2161
01:44:23,973 --> 01:44:25,892
Speaker 6: Five meters of water off the shore.

2162
01:44:26,173 --> 01:44:28,333
Speaker 22: That was sort of a regulation for having the catamarine,

2163
01:44:29,093 --> 01:44:32,093
Speaker 22: and the whales were swimming between us and the shore.

2164
01:44:32,572 --> 01:44:34,293
Speaker 22: It was that close, and they were breaking out of

2165
01:44:34,372 --> 01:44:37,372
Speaker 22: the surface with their carves and in the distance you

2166
01:44:37,412 --> 01:44:40,293
Speaker 22: could see with clearly. You could hear them, but you know,

2167
01:44:40,492 --> 01:44:42,972
Speaker 22: doing the venting and blowing, and you'd be sailing along

2168
01:44:43,053 --> 01:44:45,532
Speaker 22: you'd see all the snop that they've left on top

2169
01:44:45,572 --> 01:44:45,932
Speaker 22: of the water.

2170
01:44:46,093 --> 01:44:49,253
Speaker 6: So you've gone, there's some just been there. But the

2171
01:44:49,412 --> 01:44:51,732
Speaker 6: amazing thing for the amazing thing for.

2172
01:44:51,812 --> 01:44:55,093
Speaker 22: Me, because I'd never seen one before and now I've

2173
01:44:55,093 --> 01:44:56,173
Speaker 22: seen about fifty of them.

2174
01:44:56,652 --> 01:44:59,452
Speaker 6: The amazing thing for me was when you were sleeping

2175
01:44:59,532 --> 01:45:01,812
Speaker 6: at night. On the first night, you could just hear

2176
01:45:01,853 --> 01:45:02,932
Speaker 6: them talking to each other.

2177
01:45:03,333 --> 01:45:06,692
Speaker 2: The whale call because people will pay well, you know,

2178
01:45:06,772 --> 01:45:09,532
Speaker 2: people will play whale call sound just to calm themselves

2179
01:45:09,532 --> 01:45:11,732
Speaker 2: and go to sleep, you know, play them off off

2180
01:45:11,772 --> 01:45:14,213
Speaker 2: Spotify or whatever. So what's it like actually going to

2181
01:45:14,253 --> 01:45:15,652
Speaker 2: sleep to the sound of whale core.

2182
01:45:16,732 --> 01:45:18,652
Speaker 6: It just when we know, on all night.

2183
01:45:18,692 --> 01:45:20,972
Speaker 22: But it was really peaceful and calming, and they had

2184
01:45:21,412 --> 01:45:23,653
Speaker 22: you could hear the young the young ones.

2185
01:45:23,412 --> 01:45:25,732
Speaker 6: Had a different sort of sound to that which obviously

2186
01:45:25,853 --> 01:45:29,333
Speaker 6: the older, older whales, and it was just amazing. But

2187
01:45:29,933 --> 01:45:31,213
Speaker 6: it's just swim around.

2188
01:45:31,253 --> 01:45:32,052
Speaker 22: The yachts that were.

2189
01:45:32,013 --> 01:45:33,852
Speaker 6: Moored up, just come up.

2190
01:45:34,093 --> 01:45:35,812
Speaker 2: What kind of whales were they, Darren?

2191
01:45:36,812 --> 01:45:37,652
Speaker 6: The the humpbacks.

2192
01:45:37,732 --> 01:45:40,612
Speaker 2: Humpbacks, Yeah, yeah, because hump back big big talkers. Aren't

2193
01:45:40,652 --> 01:45:41,932
Speaker 2: they hunt whales?

2194
01:45:42,013 --> 01:45:43,572
Speaker 23: Yeah they are, Yeah, they are.

2195
01:45:43,692 --> 01:45:46,293
Speaker 22: And one of the things we were told you can

2196
01:45:46,372 --> 01:45:49,612
Speaker 22: basically get out there, drop yourself in the water as

2197
01:45:49,652 --> 01:45:50,372
Speaker 22: they're close enough.

2198
01:45:50,452 --> 01:45:52,532
Speaker 21: You're not really you're supposed to, but they said, you know,

2199
01:45:52,572 --> 01:45:53,452
Speaker 21: if you slap.

2200
01:45:53,293 --> 01:45:55,133
Speaker 6: The water and bang and the upwave arms like that.

2201
01:45:55,213 --> 01:45:58,652
Speaker 22: Other lady said, if they don't, if they feel comfortable,

2202
01:45:58,772 --> 01:46:00,412
Speaker 22: usually if they haven't got the young with them.

2203
01:46:00,812 --> 01:46:04,933
Speaker 6: They'll just swim up and interact with you. We have

2204
01:46:04,973 --> 01:46:05,612
Speaker 6: gotten that close.

2205
01:46:06,053 --> 01:46:08,293
Speaker 22: But if you want to see whales, mate, get your backs.

2206
01:46:08,333 --> 01:46:10,732
Speaker 22: So I in a plane head up to Brisbane and

2207
01:46:10,853 --> 01:46:11,612
Speaker 22: drive up there and.

2208
01:46:13,173 --> 01:46:15,253
Speaker 2: World. I'm not telling what I was thinking about getting

2209
01:46:15,293 --> 01:46:17,892
Speaker 2: some tickets to go and see nick Cave and Brisbane.

2210
01:46:19,053 --> 01:46:21,652
Speaker 2: He's playing in Brisbane pretty soon, so I might attach

2211
01:46:21,692 --> 01:46:23,293
Speaker 2: a bit of a whale trap on top of that.

2212
01:46:23,532 --> 01:46:26,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you've twisted his arm. I think's he's

2213
01:46:26,333 --> 01:46:27,333
Speaker 3: going to be leaving pretty soon.

2214
01:46:27,412 --> 01:46:28,052
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds.

2215
01:46:28,253 --> 01:46:28,652
Speaker 8: That sounds.

2216
01:46:30,452 --> 01:46:31,812
Speaker 2: And you know when he said, you know, the whale

2217
01:46:31,893 --> 01:46:34,012
Speaker 2: snot that. That's the thing that people don't know about

2218
01:46:34,013 --> 01:46:37,093
Speaker 2: Wales is that their blowhole is just a nostril that's

2219
01:46:37,133 --> 01:46:40,213
Speaker 2: evolved way back on their head. So you see the

2220
01:46:40,293 --> 01:46:42,692
Speaker 2: right nostrils, a little small nostril beside it. Yeah, So,

2221
01:46:42,853 --> 01:46:44,372
Speaker 2: I mean it makes sense when you think about it,

2222
01:46:44,452 --> 01:46:47,253
Speaker 2: but that blowhole is just it's just it was a

2223
01:46:47,372 --> 01:46:50,492
Speaker 2: nose at one point. Because you know, Wales were there.

2224
01:46:51,013 --> 01:46:53,892
Speaker 2: They're actually descendant from the same things that didn't descend

2225
01:46:53,933 --> 01:46:55,572
Speaker 2: it from sheep, and they were hanging around by the

2226
01:46:55,692 --> 01:46:57,452
Speaker 2: beach and then they ended up going out to sea,

2227
01:46:57,452 --> 01:47:00,492
Speaker 2: it's right, and evolving into into sea mammals and all wales,

2228
01:47:00,973 --> 01:47:03,133
Speaker 2: and so over time they're just they're left. Nostril just

2229
01:47:03,213 --> 01:47:05,572
Speaker 2: evolved down the back of their head and became their

2230
01:47:05,572 --> 01:47:08,852
Speaker 2: blowhole genius. So Darren's right, when you see wales, not everywhere,

2231
01:47:08,893 --> 01:47:09,973
Speaker 2: it is actually whales not.

2232
01:47:10,412 --> 01:47:14,492
Speaker 3: Love it, Steve, you had a bit of experience or

2233
01:47:14,532 --> 01:47:16,612
Speaker 3: a mates who had some experience.

2234
01:47:17,893 --> 01:47:20,093
Speaker 27: Oh, I'm an underwater cameram and this is what I

2235
01:47:20,173 --> 01:47:24,852
Speaker 27: do for film in whales in the water, right, so

2236
01:47:25,293 --> 01:47:26,853
Speaker 27: a little bit of a different perspective.

2237
01:47:27,253 --> 01:47:30,852
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you must know the spots where you're going

2238
01:47:30,933 --> 01:47:34,253
Speaker 2: to find find wales. You know, there must be places

2239
01:47:34,293 --> 01:47:35,372
Speaker 2: you just know they're going to be there.

2240
01:47:36,893 --> 01:47:39,293
Speaker 27: Well, you know, like it just depends on what time

2241
01:47:39,372 --> 01:47:43,333
Speaker 27: of the year it is, and in some years there's

2242
01:47:43,372 --> 01:47:46,253
Speaker 27: hot spots and you just need to go to where

2243
01:47:46,293 --> 01:47:48,053
Speaker 27: the action is, you know. So it's not always in

2244
01:47:48,133 --> 01:47:49,852
Speaker 27: the same spot. But at this time of the year,

2245
01:47:49,893 --> 01:47:52,732
Speaker 27: the Hierarchy Golf is a wonderful place to see whales

2246
01:47:52,853 --> 01:47:56,053
Speaker 27: and if you haven't seen one, I highly recommend going

2247
01:47:56,093 --> 01:47:57,333
Speaker 27: down on one of the whale watching boat.

2248
01:47:57,412 --> 01:48:01,652
Speaker 2: Okay watch, Yeah, the things for me, I'm out on

2249
01:48:02,293 --> 01:48:08,653
Speaker 2: hierarchy golf a lot, you know, fishing, but also recreately

2250
01:48:09,013 --> 01:48:11,333
Speaker 2: and a drinking capacity on friends boats and stuff. So

2251
01:48:11,412 --> 01:48:14,452
Speaker 2: it's amazing that I haven't. I don't, I don't see them.

2252
01:48:14,692 --> 01:48:18,372
Speaker 2: So so you know, have you have you filmed wales

2253
01:48:18,372 --> 01:48:21,972
Speaker 2: around the world, Steve No, mainly in New Zealand.

2254
01:48:22,173 --> 01:48:25,572
Speaker 27: So when companies like BBC you want to come out

2255
01:48:25,612 --> 01:48:27,932
Speaker 27: and do a documentary, Yeah, that's the kind of thing

2256
01:48:28,213 --> 01:48:31,853
Speaker 27: that I'll do. So we're filmed for you know, documentaries

2257
01:48:31,933 --> 01:48:33,933
Speaker 27: like Blue Planet two. We were the first people to

2258
01:48:34,053 --> 01:48:38,452
Speaker 27: do a story on false color whales and they also did.

2259
01:48:38,372 --> 01:48:41,452
Speaker 2: Another one on what sorry on Steve, on false klor whales.

2260
01:48:41,492 --> 01:48:45,333
Speaker 27: Did you say, yeah, false color whales. So the good

2261
01:48:45,492 --> 01:48:50,132
Speaker 27: largest dolphins or than pilot whales, than false color whales,

2262
01:48:51,093 --> 01:48:54,093
Speaker 27: and yeah, it's like these are animals that no one

2263
01:48:54,173 --> 01:48:58,093
Speaker 27: knew about them and they regularly visit the hierarchy golf

2264
01:48:59,492 --> 01:49:01,572
Speaker 27: and there can be up to one hundred and fifty

2265
01:49:01,612 --> 01:49:03,452
Speaker 27: of them. There's two clusters that we know about in

2266
01:49:03,532 --> 01:49:06,092
Speaker 27: New Zealand, in Northern New Zealand.

2267
01:49:06,253 --> 01:49:09,173
Speaker 6: So yeah, what a job you've.

2268
01:49:09,093 --> 01:49:12,612
Speaker 3: Got as well, what an incredible job you've got.

2269
01:49:14,213 --> 01:49:16,893
Speaker 27: Yeah, it's good words out on the water trying to

2270
01:49:16,933 --> 01:49:21,852
Speaker 27: film Orca on Citidy actually just just out from Omaha.

2271
01:49:22,652 --> 01:49:24,772
Speaker 27: So they went into the estuary there and they were

2272
01:49:25,093 --> 01:49:29,333
Speaker 27: in sting rays and and we gosted them with my

2273
01:49:29,452 --> 01:49:32,093
Speaker 27: boat for a number of hours, just giving them their

2274
01:49:32,173 --> 01:49:35,612
Speaker 27: distance because after they're feeding, they ended up sleeping for

2275
01:49:35,732 --> 01:49:38,652
Speaker 27: about three hours, which was you know, great for them,

2276
01:49:38,692 --> 01:49:43,132
Speaker 27: but frustrating for us along and not doing anything very interesting.

2277
01:49:43,532 --> 01:49:43,812
Speaker 3: Love that.

2278
01:49:44,173 --> 01:49:47,812
Speaker 2: So you know, we've all seen videos of orca, you know,

2279
01:49:48,133 --> 01:49:51,652
Speaker 2: playing with seals and chasing penguins and stuff. Are you

2280
01:49:51,732 --> 01:49:53,452
Speaker 2: ever any danger from from an orca?

2281
01:49:56,492 --> 01:49:56,812
Speaker 16: You know what?

2282
01:49:57,452 --> 01:50:01,492
Speaker 27: Orca a humans. I probably wouldn't enter the ocean because

2283
01:50:02,053 --> 01:50:07,532
Speaker 27: they're actually really nasty animals. But I've only had I

2284
01:50:07,612 --> 01:50:09,213
Speaker 27: think they've got a of it since a humor, to

2285
01:50:09,293 --> 01:50:11,532
Speaker 27: be honest. Like, I've had a few sneak up on me.

2286
01:50:11,692 --> 01:50:14,892
Speaker 27: And yeah, like at one particular day that I had

2287
01:50:14,973 --> 01:50:16,972
Speaker 27: the whole pot had swam past me. I was ninety

2288
01:50:17,053 --> 01:50:20,253
Speaker 27: nine zero point nine percent sure they had, And all

2289
01:50:20,333 --> 01:50:22,412
Speaker 27: of a sudden, I just had this huge eye right

2290
01:50:22,532 --> 01:50:26,133
Speaker 27: next to me, and the map was right there, and

2291
01:50:28,013 --> 01:50:30,972
Speaker 27: I literally, you know, like my heart went up into

2292
01:50:31,013 --> 01:50:33,652
Speaker 27: my mouth, and I was sure the camera had kind

2293
01:50:33,652 --> 01:50:35,213
Speaker 27: of looked at about a foot onto the air. And

2294
01:50:37,013 --> 01:50:39,412
Speaker 27: I got home and I was actually really surprised at

2295
01:50:39,652 --> 01:50:41,932
Speaker 27: the footage was seamless, like it didn't even bump at all,

2296
01:50:42,013 --> 01:50:43,572
Speaker 27: Like I absolutely crapped myself.

2297
01:50:45,173 --> 01:50:47,612
Speaker 2: And as I was saying before, what do you think

2298
01:50:47,692 --> 01:50:50,213
Speaker 2: that the Orca thinks of you?

2299
01:50:52,333 --> 01:50:55,253
Speaker 27: You know what, I think they're way more intelligent than

2300
01:50:55,293 --> 01:50:57,972
Speaker 27: what we realized that New Zealan's got over fifteen thousand

2301
01:50:58,053 --> 01:51:02,652
Speaker 27: kilometers of coastline. Some orca only hunt around the North Island,

2302
01:51:02,732 --> 01:51:05,372
Speaker 27: someday the North and South. Some only hunt around the South.

2303
01:51:06,293 --> 01:51:09,532
Speaker 27: But I'm absolutely convinced that, you know, some of them

2304
01:51:09,572 --> 01:51:12,293
Speaker 27: would know who I am in the water, you know,

2305
01:51:12,492 --> 01:51:15,093
Speaker 27: like I have a particular body shape. I carry it

2306
01:51:16,372 --> 01:51:20,012
Speaker 27: this guy again, I carry a metal container in front

2307
01:51:20,013 --> 01:51:24,453
Speaker 27: of me. And you know, if they intimately know our coastline,

2308
01:51:24,452 --> 01:51:26,972
Speaker 27: they know all the nooks and crannies and all the bays,

2309
01:51:27,173 --> 01:51:29,932
Speaker 27: and and they can navigate at night, you know, from

2310
01:51:29,973 --> 01:51:32,373
Speaker 27: one island to the next. They're incredibly intelligent.

2311
01:51:32,532 --> 01:51:33,133
Speaker 4: So it's not.

2312
01:51:34,692 --> 01:51:38,412
Speaker 27: You know, like I think they would recognize individuals, and

2313
01:51:38,812 --> 01:51:41,333
Speaker 27: they actually can see above the surface, like I've seen

2314
01:51:41,372 --> 01:51:43,333
Speaker 27: them lifting their heads out of the water and looking

2315
01:51:43,412 --> 01:51:46,053
Speaker 27: into our boats. I've seen them lifting their heads out

2316
01:51:46,093 --> 01:51:49,052
Speaker 27: of the water, spy hopping and looking at the rays

2317
01:51:49,093 --> 01:51:50,893
Speaker 27: that they've taste out of the water and trying to

2318
01:51:50,933 --> 01:51:54,572
Speaker 27: get them off the rocks. So it's pretty amazing, like

2319
01:51:54,652 --> 01:51:57,973
Speaker 27: their perspective of the world and that you know, they

2320
01:51:58,013 --> 01:51:59,933
Speaker 27: have an eye that works underwater, but they have an

2321
01:51:59,973 --> 01:52:01,612
Speaker 27: eye that works above the surface.

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01:52:01,973 --> 01:52:05,852
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy, incredible creatures. Steve, thank you very much.

2323
01:52:06,013 --> 01:52:08,052
Speaker 3: It is fourteen to four back in a month.

2324
01:52:08,652 --> 01:52:12,013
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

2325
01:52:12,372 --> 01:52:16,932
Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heathan Tayler Adams afternoons used talk said.

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01:52:16,732 --> 01:52:20,053
Speaker 2: Be twelve to four, Hi, guys, says this text A

2327
01:52:20,093 --> 01:52:23,092
Speaker 2: wildlife accounter of sorts at Lawrence in the late nineteen seventies.

2328
01:52:23,093 --> 01:52:24,893
Speaker 2: We were rugby training next to a circus when the

2329
01:52:24,973 --> 01:52:27,772
Speaker 2: lions escaped from their cages, running onto our training field.

2330
01:52:28,053 --> 01:52:30,293
Speaker 2: We're all ran off to safety, but the lions were

2331
01:52:30,333 --> 01:52:33,333
Speaker 2: sadly not able to be captured and was shot by police.

2332
01:52:33,412 --> 01:52:35,772
Speaker 2: They're said, it's not lion's fault. Then our on display

2333
01:52:35,812 --> 01:52:38,372
Speaker 2: at the Attagi Museum, Ah, is that where those lions

2334
01:52:38,412 --> 01:52:40,492
Speaker 2: came from said for the lions, but remains the highlight

2335
01:52:40,532 --> 01:52:41,452
Speaker 2: of my rugby career.

2336
01:52:41,973 --> 01:52:43,253
Speaker 3: They're legit does that happen?

2337
01:52:43,452 --> 01:52:46,093
Speaker 2: That's I remember the lions being on tour here a

2338
01:52:46,133 --> 01:52:49,133
Speaker 2: few times, but that's that's a different type of lion.

2339
01:52:50,013 --> 01:52:52,492
Speaker 2: But essentially because it's not the only time that lions

2340
01:52:52,532 --> 01:52:54,533
Speaker 2: have gotten out in New Zealand. I saw this documentary

2341
01:52:54,652 --> 01:52:57,972
Speaker 2: called Who Killed I think it was called Who Killed

2342
01:52:58,612 --> 01:53:02,253
Speaker 2: Lulu the Poodle? It was Who Killed Lucy the Poodle

2343
01:53:02,732 --> 01:53:07,772
Speaker 2: and it was about how some lions escaped in one day.

2344
01:53:08,772 --> 01:53:10,812
Speaker 2: So there's been some lines running a mark in New

2345
01:53:10,853 --> 01:53:14,852
Speaker 2: Zealand a few times over the years. Daniel, Yeah, goody,

2346
01:53:14,933 --> 01:53:18,532
Speaker 2: you don't very good. You've got a more pork experience.

2347
01:53:19,973 --> 01:53:20,852
Speaker 8: Yeah right, yeah.

2348
01:53:20,933 --> 01:53:22,973
Speaker 11: So, like I grew up lucky enough to graup on

2349
01:53:22,973 --> 01:53:26,452
Speaker 11: a reefarm, tucked into the native bush just north of Deleading,

2350
01:53:26,612 --> 01:53:30,772
Speaker 11: and I was taught once, but I felt how to

2351
01:53:31,452 --> 01:53:32,772
Speaker 11: you know, how to call with your hands like a

2352
01:53:32,853 --> 01:53:36,053
Speaker 11: more pork could And I used to respond to them

2353
01:53:36,093 --> 01:53:37,492
Speaker 11: quite a lot. Well there's this one. We knew what

2354
01:53:37,572 --> 01:53:39,532
Speaker 11: tree hit had been and I used to respond to

2355
01:53:39,612 --> 01:53:41,652
Speaker 11: them quite a bit. Then one night I thought, how

2356
01:53:41,692 --> 01:53:43,452
Speaker 11: I wonder if I can get him to respond to me.

2357
01:53:43,612 --> 01:53:46,652
Speaker 11: So I went outside and it was dark, and I

2358
01:53:46,732 --> 01:53:49,492
Speaker 11: started calling on maybe maybe called out a couple of times, three,

2359
01:53:49,532 --> 01:53:52,492
Speaker 11: four times, and then he responded right. I thought, that's

2360
01:53:52,492 --> 01:53:55,412
Speaker 11: pretty cool, was mabe, he's he's heard me and he's

2361
01:53:55,452 --> 01:53:59,173
Speaker 11: responding him. And then he went quiet after baby five hoops,

2362
01:54:00,253 --> 01:54:03,013
Speaker 11: and I thought, ah, he's clicked. But no, no, he

2363
01:54:03,133 --> 01:54:04,852
Speaker 11: started off to my right because I was sort of like,

2364
01:54:04,933 --> 01:54:08,052
Speaker 11: you know, I was facing the tree, and he started

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01:54:08,093 --> 01:54:09,972
Speaker 11: off to a right. So he carried on for a bit.

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01:54:10,013 --> 01:54:11,612
Speaker 11: Then he went quiet, and I looked up in the

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01:54:11,732 --> 01:54:14,652
Speaker 11: night sky and I saw a streak, and you've went

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01:54:14,732 --> 01:54:16,732
Speaker 11: up the hill. So I tootled up at the hill

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01:54:16,893 --> 01:54:19,333
Speaker 11: toward them, A weave it and this time when he

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01:54:19,893 --> 01:54:22,253
Speaker 11: after it, maybe six or seven hoots. Again, I didn't

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01:54:22,253 --> 01:54:23,173
Speaker 11: even have to look for him.

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01:54:23,692 --> 01:54:24,093
Speaker 21: He came.

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01:54:24,253 --> 01:54:26,213
Speaker 11: He swooped that jolly close to me. I felt the

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01:54:26,253 --> 01:54:27,213
Speaker 11: wind from his wings.

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01:54:27,973 --> 01:54:28,812
Speaker 3: That is pretty cool.

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01:54:28,933 --> 01:54:29,173
Speaker 8: Wow.

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01:54:29,492 --> 01:54:32,013
Speaker 3: Can you still do yeah? Can you still do the

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01:54:32,053 --> 01:54:32,653
Speaker 3: more pork call?

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01:54:33,812 --> 01:54:34,012
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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01:54:34,253 --> 01:54:35,052
Speaker 20: Yeah, I do it again.

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01:54:35,133 --> 01:54:35,173
Speaker 15: Me.

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01:54:35,213 --> 01:54:36,892
Speaker 11: I'm not on the farm anymore, though, so I don't

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01:54:36,893 --> 01:54:37,653
Speaker 11: get that privilege.

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01:54:37,973 --> 01:54:41,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, love a rudu, Yeah, beautiful birds are the

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01:54:41,333 --> 01:54:43,972
Speaker 2: six is We got married at mentioned house on Kiwa

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01:54:44,093 --> 01:54:47,453
Speaker 2: Island in twenty sixteen. MC had just started a speech

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01:54:47,493 --> 01:54:50,053
Speaker 2: and was told orcas were swimming in the bay. So

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01:54:50,133 --> 01:54:52,653
Speaker 2: the whole wedding went out onto the wharf and they

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01:54:52,693 --> 01:54:55,613
Speaker 2: swam underneath the wharf with everyone standing on top. Was

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01:54:55,693 --> 01:54:57,933
Speaker 2: truly amazing part of the day. MC claimed it was

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01:54:58,453 --> 01:55:00,733
Speaker 2: a money well spent and the orcas were right on time.

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01:55:01,173 --> 01:55:01,373
Speaker 8: Cool.

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01:55:01,493 --> 01:55:04,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is also, anytime Wales turned up to your wedding,

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01:55:04,293 --> 01:55:05,653
Speaker 2: it's probably some kind of good omen, isn't it.

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01:55:05,693 --> 01:55:08,533
Speaker 3: They are good guests. Yeah right, it is not nine

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01:55:08,812 --> 01:55:11,333
Speaker 3: minutes to four back very shortly. You listening to Matt

2397
01:55:11,373 --> 01:55:12,453
Speaker 3: and Tyler good afternoons, you.

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01:55:13,933 --> 01:55:17,092
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, to the big trends

2399
01:55:17,253 --> 01:55:20,973
Speaker 1: and everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons

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01:55:21,253 --> 01:55:21,733
Speaker 1: used talks.

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01:55:21,772 --> 01:55:24,852
Speaker 2: They'd be hey, So a bunch of people are texting

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01:55:24,893 --> 01:55:28,373
Speaker 2: through saying that Lawrence Lyons story is true, the lions

2403
01:55:28,453 --> 01:55:32,052
Speaker 2: running a muck and Lawrence in the South Islands. Yeah. Also,

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01:55:33,173 --> 01:55:36,893
Speaker 2: Steve Hathaway made that documentary called Who Called Lucy the

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01:55:36,933 --> 01:55:39,932
Speaker 2: Poodle about the lions that escaped in the UA at

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01:55:39,933 --> 01:55:41,973
Speaker 2: that time. So yeah, as I say, every now and

2407
01:55:42,013 --> 01:55:44,253
Speaker 2: then the lion will run a mark in New Zealand.

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01:55:44,253 --> 01:55:46,573
Speaker 2: You wouldn't expect that, but it can happen. Greg, you've

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01:55:46,613 --> 01:55:47,413
Speaker 2: seen a few whales.

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01:55:48,853 --> 01:55:50,653
Speaker 28: I've only said it once, but my mum and dad

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01:55:50,733 --> 01:55:53,253
Speaker 28: had a house up on the up above the wharf

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01:55:53,253 --> 01:55:55,973
Speaker 28: at Ragland Harbor which I oversaw the whole harbor and

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01:55:56,093 --> 01:55:58,693
Speaker 28: on a semi regular basis they'd be seeing ucas swimming

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01:55:58,733 --> 01:56:01,333
Speaker 28: in the harbor probably once or twice a year, and

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01:56:01,453 --> 01:56:03,573
Speaker 28: they mom and dad used to say, you never ever

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01:56:03,613 --> 01:56:05,533
Speaker 28: got sick of it that was unking around. There was

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01:56:05,533 --> 01:56:08,053
Speaker 28: a four or five of them, and I thought, what

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01:56:08,333 --> 01:56:10,493
Speaker 28: privileged to be the obvious seen with them at once,

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01:56:10,613 --> 01:56:12,852
Speaker 28: but just swimming up the harbor and back, it was

2420
01:56:12,933 --> 01:56:17,772
Speaker 28: quite quite good. I'm not like filming arounder the water obviously,

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01:56:17,933 --> 01:56:20,253
Speaker 28: but yeah, I thought we were quite priviged to see them,

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01:56:20,333 --> 01:56:23,173
Speaker 28: so that was actually quite good.

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01:56:23,613 --> 01:56:26,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's amazing a witness, Greg, a pot of walker,

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01:56:26,373 --> 01:56:27,013
Speaker 3: no doubt about it.

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01:56:27,613 --> 01:56:29,653
Speaker 2: This was, and said I swam with Wales and Tonga.

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01:56:30,173 --> 01:56:31,973
Speaker 2: It was truly amazing. Yeah. I went out on a

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01:56:32,013 --> 01:56:34,213
Speaker 2: whale watching thing in Tonga as well, and didn't. I've

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01:56:34,253 --> 01:56:35,493
Speaker 2: been a lot and haven't seen them.

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01:56:35,493 --> 01:56:37,493
Speaker 3: Okay, it's going to happen, Matt, It's going to happen.

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01:56:37,933 --> 01:56:39,653
Speaker 3: We should have asked for it earlier. Actually, if you

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01:56:39,772 --> 01:56:43,292
Speaker 3: do run away watch Operation Mets. Ready to go anytime, anywhere.

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01:56:43,493 --> 01:56:44,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, if you don't want to take me out

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01:56:45,013 --> 01:56:46,812
Speaker 2: with other people, because then they want their money back

2434
01:56:46,893 --> 01:56:53,413
Speaker 2: because of my I'm just marine mammal repellent. All right,

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01:56:53,613 --> 01:56:56,533
Speaker 2: thank you so much for listening to the show. Everyone

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01:56:56,693 --> 01:56:59,453
Speaker 2: loved the chat today has been fantastic. Our podcasts will

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01:56:59,453 --> 01:57:03,253
Speaker 2: be available in about an hour. The powerful Paul Holmes

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01:57:03,293 --> 01:57:06,253
Speaker 2: broadcast of the Heather dupasy Ellen is up next. But Tyler,

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01:57:06,373 --> 01:57:09,012
Speaker 2: why would I have played this song from Dave Dobbyin?

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01:57:09,173 --> 01:57:12,253
Speaker 3: It's a weird choice, isn't it? Whaling? What a tune

2441
01:57:12,533 --> 01:57:16,012
Speaker 3: and incredible stories about so many people. It seems everyone

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01:57:16,053 --> 01:57:18,693
Speaker 3: in New Zealand has seen a whale except for you,

2443
01:57:18,772 --> 01:57:20,653
Speaker 3: Mad Have you seen well, I've seen a whale. You've

2444
01:57:20,653 --> 01:57:22,413
Speaker 3: seen a while, I've seen a whale. Don't worry about that.

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01:57:22,733 --> 01:57:25,333
Speaker 2: I love the song. And Dave Dobbin's an incredibly talented man,

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01:57:25,413 --> 01:57:28,133
Speaker 2: said Dave Dobbin. But what is he giving out the song.

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01:57:28,373 --> 01:57:30,253
Speaker 2: It's that what's it a metaphor for? I need to

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01:57:30,293 --> 01:57:30,733
Speaker 2: find that out.

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01:57:30,812 --> 01:57:32,653
Speaker 3: That's a good point. I've never looked into the lyrics

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01:57:32,653 --> 01:57:33,132
Speaker 3: A bitter.

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01:57:32,973 --> 01:57:35,653
Speaker 2: Do that, he said, because he's not actually whaling. I

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01:57:35,733 --> 01:57:40,093
Speaker 2: think it's pro whale. Well, whaling isn't pro whale well no,

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01:57:40,693 --> 01:57:41,892
Speaker 2: and as you're pro eating whale.

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01:57:41,973 --> 01:57:49,613
Speaker 29: Yeah, great journe anyway, until Wednesday afternoon, that's met in

2455
01:57:49,613 --> 01:57:51,932
Speaker 29: Tayler afternoons on ZIB give them a taste of key

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01:57:51,973 --> 01:57:54,373
Speaker 29: where you Great New Zealand are sure

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