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Speaker 3: Hello, pre Christmas on the front Foot. The Black Cats
Speaker 3: save the best to the last, but it's only a
Speaker 3: consolation win the World Test Championship and the season's success
Speaker 3: has gone lost two to one two England. Why does
Speaker 3: it take so long to play the quality cricket they did?
Speaker 5: In three?
Speaker 3: The third Test, Santa wins the top whiteful job and
Speaker 3: we've got some on the Front Foot awards to make
Speaker 3: from the twelve Test matches. Test match is over, Jerry,
Speaker 3: the season's gone. It's not even Christmas and we've got
Speaker 3: no more tests for about six months. It's a bit hollow,
Speaker 3: isn't it when you say goodbye to Test cricket and
Speaker 3: you're only left with short.
Speaker 6: Format weird years, isn't it?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 6: Personally?
Speaker 7: I like the stuff after Christmas because better weather and
Speaker 7: the pictures are a little bit better, and I think
Speaker 7: the whole thing feels much more cricket ye if you like,
Speaker 7: rather than prior to Christmas. But I don't know whether
Speaker 7: it's just happened this way this season. I hope it's
Speaker 7: not going to happen this way in the future.
Speaker 3: All the time, Garth, you'll be having some season greetings,
Speaker 3: I'm sure, and celebrating the festive season that a traditionalist
Speaker 3: like you would be sad to see the Test season
Speaker 3: come to end and we've got to wait for July
Speaker 3: to see New Zealand and zim Barbe. As I understand.
Speaker 8: It, it was such an odd feeling, wasn't it, watching
Speaker 8: that Third Test in Hamilton and thinking it, you know,
Speaker 8: it felt like the season's over. And I know that
Speaker 8: we've got white ball cricket, as you've touched on, but
Speaker 8: it doesn't feel the same. And I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 8: you know, the Christmas has gone come and gone already.
Speaker 8: Because I think for all of us cricket lovers, the
Speaker 8: Test crickets and stuff we love, we don't mind having
Speaker 8: games before Christmas, but we prefer to have a few
Speaker 8: more afterwards as well. So I mean I wonder is
Speaker 8: it designed so that it fits in with the World
Speaker 8: Test Championship.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 8: It seems it's a bit of a shame. And I
Speaker 8: guess what's the other thing in Jerry that occurs to me?
Speaker 8: You know, the next Test is six months seven eight
Speaker 8: months away in Zimbabwe, and if we'd moved into a
Speaker 8: new series into February and March, you know, I think
Speaker 8: this side would be forced to make changes, and hopefully
Speaker 8: in Zimbabwe they will, but it just feels like it's.
Speaker 5: Such a long way away.
Speaker 8: I'm not sure what's going to happen, if that makes sense,
Speaker 8: but I hope there's a lot of reflection and a
Speaker 8: desire to have us success plan in place, albeit too
Speaker 8: late in my view.
Speaker 3: Well, Jerry, the interesting thing is that Tim Southy has
Speaker 3: had a grand fall well Sadly, Trent Bolt never got
Speaker 3: one when he left the Test Match Arena, nor Wagner
Speaker 3: he got a press conference in Wellington though I had
Speaker 3: a few tears. But we hear murmurings that Test match
Speaker 3: cricket maybe over for Cain Williamson and no confirmation of that.
Speaker 3: But those were strong rumors coming out of Hamilton, weren't
Speaker 3: they I'm.
Speaker 7: Not about strong, but certainly I did hear them, Brian,
Speaker 7: and let's hope that they're not true just yet, because
Speaker 7: we saw the way that he played in Hamilton, and
Speaker 7: he still adds a hell of a lot to the
Speaker 7: New Zealand batting lineup, doesn't he. In fact, if you
Speaker 7: looked at the bowlers and perhaps the who are available
Speaker 7: at the moment, Henry and o'rourck's been outstanding this year,
Speaker 7: hasn't he, but Sears and Smith to add to those two,
Speaker 7: We've suddenly got something of a seam bowling department, haven't we.
Speaker 6: We're bouncing a bit of pace and a wee bit
Speaker 6: of swing.
Speaker 7: So it's the batting actually that we've got to start
Speaker 7: to think about and look about.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 6: If it's Williamson, the king of.
Speaker 7: Our batting, who has been for some time now, thirty
Speaker 7: three tests centuries, look, I would hate to think what's
Speaker 7: going to happen, to be honest, for a wee while
Speaker 7: it's it's, as you've already said, long time before the
Speaker 7: next next meal, isn't it the next Test meal?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I wonder Garth. With the difference in the Test matches,
Speaker 3: we lost the two heavily, and then we beat England
Speaker 3: just as heavily. The difference was Williamson scored Harry Brooke
Speaker 3: didn't or was it bigger than that? What's the difference
Speaker 3: between the two heavy defeats and the one strong win?
Speaker 5: Good question was I think?
Speaker 8: I mean the first Test in christ Church and you
Speaker 8: know everyone observing will have seen the fielding, and that
Speaker 8: really did feel like the difference between the two sides.
Speaker 8: New Zealand's fielding was catastrophically bad, really and Brooke was
Speaker 8: dropped five times. The first time he was dropped he
Speaker 8: was on seventeen. He was then dropped in the forties
Speaker 8: and in the in the eighties, and had that catch,
Speaker 8: had that first catch been taken, all the second one,
Speaker 8: all the third one, things could have been very different.
Speaker 8: So I I saw that as being series defining in
Speaker 8: a way. And I think fielding has been an issue
Speaker 8: for this side. They've always prided themselves on their catching,
Speaker 8: but I've just felt in the last twelve months or
Speaker 8: so that the catching hasn't been as good as it
Speaker 8: has been in previous seasons. I mean, the Second Test
Speaker 8: was a whitewash, an absolute bath for New Zealand at
Speaker 8: the Basin Reserve. You know, New Zealand were very poor.
Speaker 8: They batted eighty nine overs and two innings from memory
Speaker 8: and never really got into the game again. You know,
Speaker 8: some I think that the selection of Saldi for the
Speaker 8: first two tests and all three really was a curiosity,
Speaker 8: some real issues with not bringing young in when I
Speaker 8: think many of us thought that he should have played
Speaker 8: in the first Test. And then I guess in Hamilton,
Speaker 8: you know, you don't want to be too unfit in
Speaker 8: New Zealand because they they murdered England.
Speaker 5: But I just felt that England were on the plane home.
Speaker 8: And so you know, it just felt like they were off.
Speaker 5: Yes, Brooke failed.
Speaker 8: You know, I thought, for me, possibly the most significant
Speaker 8: thing to come out of that match was the absolute
Speaker 8: the superb fast bowling of O'Rourke. He was hostile and
Speaker 8: Brock faced seven balls in two innings and he got
Speaker 8: on both times. O' rourke Brook's number one in the world,
Speaker 8: number two, and I thought I Rock had it over
Speaker 8: both of them.
Speaker 5: You know, it was it was a.
Speaker 8: Really exciting to see a New Zealand bowler bowling at
Speaker 8: one hundred and fifty k's plus and Brock did not
Speaker 8: like it and I think it adds you know, a
Speaker 8: very interesting to mention. You know, England are talking about
Speaker 8: having the right side for the Ashes. I don't think so.
Speaker 3: M interesting Garth newsflash for you. Rougter's back at number
Speaker 3: one and Brookers number two. So Cain Williamson has to
Speaker 3: slot in at three in these rankings and they change
Speaker 3: every two or three minutes. Jerry Test matches in twenty
Speaker 3: four New Zealand played twelve one six lost six in
Speaker 3: the World Test Championship. They played fourteen one seven lost seven.
Speaker 3: Mediocre record. Let's give them a mark out of ten.
Speaker 3: I've given them five.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think so was five as fair.
Speaker 7: Maybe, well, they scaled the heights beating India, didn't they.
Speaker 7: That's clearly the Himalayas of the season, you know, probably
Speaker 7: one of our best results ever.
Speaker 6: But then you know, you look at the rest of
Speaker 6: South Africa.
Speaker 7: B We lose to Sri Lanka, we lose to Australia,
Speaker 7: we lose to England, and we drew with Bangladesh. There's
Speaker 7: not really all that exciting, is it. So I think, yeah,
Speaker 7: I think between four and five. Really you Seeland won
Speaker 7: more tests actually away from home in Asia than they
Speaker 7: did at home, so that's a little bit disappointing really
Speaker 7: when you want to protect your home ground, and note
Speaker 7: you should know those conditions the best. So really we
Speaker 7: did have opportunities, as Garth said, to beat both Australia.
Speaker 6: And England in my mind and one.
Speaker 7: Of the Tests, but we get into positions and matches
Speaker 7: and we just don't nail it any longer.
Speaker 6: The match at Hagley.
Speaker 7: Garth mentioned the catchers of course, but I mean even
Speaker 7: against Australia, we remember dropping Marsh I think early on
Speaker 7: that last morning and he was on about twenty and
Speaker 7: he went on to.
Speaker 6: Make eighty and Australia got through.
Speaker 7: Really and then catchers are going down on the slips
Speaker 7: far more often than they should, especially if we have
Speaker 7: that bowling attack I just mentioned. I hope they sought
Speaker 7: that out. Blundell hasn't had a good season with the
Speaker 7: gloves wads and he looks to have lost a lot
Speaker 7: of confidence. His batting came back a fairly aggressive innings
Speaker 7: the basin, but it obviously was in a lost cause.
Speaker 7: And even during England that we mentioned the catchers, sorry
Speaker 7: that Garth was talking about, they.
Speaker 6: Kind of played Brook into form for the.
Speaker 7: Basin Reserve where he had a very impressive innings, I thought,
Speaker 7: But the first one wasn't and I can't. I can
Speaker 7: tell you that Garth and I met Latham on the
Speaker 7: outfield it had at Hagley after the match and he
Speaker 7: maintained steadfast league that there's nothing wrong with New Zealand's
Speaker 7: catching And it was extraordinary, wasn't it.
Speaker 8: Gars Yeah, And I think you know we saw obviously
Speaker 8: Tom you know he then dropped another a sitter in Hamilton.
Speaker 8: It was strange and I think the point you make
Speaker 8: is the one I wanted to make two Jerry about
Speaker 8: the Australian Test. You know, they we said on air
Speaker 8: when we went into that last day that New Zealand
Speaker 8: must take their catches. They must and in the first
Speaker 8: over it was Revendra dropping Marsh at point and and
Speaker 8: you know it was a catch that should have been taken.
Speaker 8: It was incredible that that that went down and Revender,
Speaker 8: you know, I don't have much confidence in his fielding,
Speaker 8: but that that changed the game. And then you saw
Speaker 8: Marsh went on to a carey scored a ninety eight
Speaker 8: out and they won the game. And it was that
Speaker 8: one moment I know they got Head out on the
Speaker 8: same over. But Head wasn't the danger man at that time.
Speaker 5: Marsh was and it has cost them a lot.
Speaker 8: And we continue, you know, while the New Zealand and
Speaker 8: the England side talk about building for the Ashes. New
Speaker 8: Zealand of course have a series coming up against Australia
Speaker 8: in a year's time. You got a couple of years
Speaker 8: and you know, I'm going to be very interested to
Speaker 8: see what side they put out there and how they
Speaker 8: build for it, and whether they have the confidence to
Speaker 8: think ahead and look to the future and start making
Speaker 8: some tough decisions.
Speaker 3: Your mark's out of ten Garth.
Speaker 5: I'm at a five as well.
Speaker 8: Sorry to be consistent with you guys, but I but
Speaker 8: you know you have to you have to look at
Speaker 8: India and say, no other New Zealand team will be
Speaker 8: in India three nil over there. It was an extraordinary achievement,
Speaker 8: but I think they let themselves down in the matches
Speaker 8: against Australia and England.
Speaker 3: Is that enough to win them the Halberg Award for
Speaker 3: Team of the Year or do you have to be
Speaker 3: more consistent than that across the twelve months.
Speaker 5: For me, you would have to be more consistent. I
Speaker 5: don't think that. Yeah.
Speaker 8: I mean again, I suppose you look at a side
Speaker 8: that wins a World Cup, I guess that they get
Speaker 8: put up for a nomination. Yeah, I mean I find
Speaker 8: it slightly confusing if a side plays very well in
Speaker 8: one series but not throughout the whole year, they wouldn't
Speaker 8: be my nomination.
Speaker 6: No, nor mine was.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, we've got to remember that Indian series.
Speaker 3: It was outstanding. We can't ignore that. But it's still
Speaker 3: a disappointing year in terms of Test matches.
Speaker 8: Can I make one other point, and that is in
Speaker 8: relation to the selection and why I think that they
Speaker 8: have failed in some respects. Just remember that when you
Speaker 8: come to picking our best bowler of the year, I
Speaker 8: think we will probably say the same person Jerry and
Speaker 8: it's Matt Henry and I look at him. He did
Speaker 8: not play in either Test in Tri Lanka, and that's
Speaker 8: because Tim Saudi was and Tim's record over the last
Speaker 8: twelve months has been very poor. So for me, another
Speaker 8: reason why they're a four point five or five is
Speaker 8: they've made a number They've made a number of selection
Speaker 8: eras based on favoritism, and my view.
Speaker 3: Has Gary Stead done enough to keep us coaching role
Speaker 3: or should that go into the marketplace to test those
Speaker 3: who are available to do the job.
Speaker 7: Look, I can really only comment on the things that
Speaker 7: you see. I haven't spent a lot of the time
Speaker 7: around the team wads looking at practices, and obviously don't
Speaker 7: go to unseen things like meetings and discussions and planning
Speaker 7: and practices and.
Speaker 6: All that sort of stuff.
Speaker 7: We can comment, of course on the selections, and we
Speaker 7: have done quite recently. He's the head coach in all
Speaker 7: three formats, and we all hear about the congested schedules
Speaker 7: and too much cricket and that sort of thing. So
Speaker 7: it's a bit of a cheap result for the NZCA
Speaker 7: to have one person to pay on the payroll, if
Speaker 7: you like. I don't know how much actual coaching he does.
Speaker 7: He's got coaches for every other part of the game,
Speaker 7: isn't he fielding.
Speaker 6: Batting, polling?
Speaker 7: There seem to be others, Yeah, all around with all
Speaker 7: the tasks. Look, I think he's a pretty he seems
Speaker 7: a pretty solid, faithful, kind of steadfast.
Speaker 6: Devoted guy, you know, and with the.
Speaker 7: Number of cricketers we've got in the New Zealand system,
Speaker 7: that might be you know, that provide a source for
Speaker 7: him to choose from. They might be the qualities that
Speaker 7: allow players to mature a bit better, but some will
Speaker 7: feel other things. They will say it couldn't be bad
Speaker 7: for a player if you play too long. Look at
Speaker 7: Conway at the moment, for example, his struggles recently don't
Speaker 7: appear to be improving. And does he at some point
Speaker 7: need to get away from the scrutiny and from the
Speaker 7: assessments and the failures and return to a place, you know,
Speaker 7: in a system where you know he's got time to reduce,
Speaker 7: juvenate and you get some confidence. It just seems to
Speaker 7: me the current coaching staff there don't have any answers
Speaker 7: to the problems. And some will also feel that, you know,
Speaker 7: he's turned an international sports side, which is sort of
Speaker 7: gas thing I think, into a men's club that you know,
Speaker 7: once you're a member, irrespective of how you perform, you're
Speaker 7: not dismissed. There's no effect at all, there's no consequence.
Speaker 7: And so players you know, have become perhaps have they
Speaker 7: or some players a bit too influential and what goes on,
Speaker 7: I don't know. Look at that T twenty World Cup,
Speaker 7: not going there beforehand, all clearing off, you know, and
Speaker 7: to do other things after. I mean, I just I just,
Speaker 7: you know, find that he's perhaps a bit strict with
Speaker 7: the limit of caution that he has. Well, look, everyone
Speaker 7: likes to pick teams, don't they. We do in the
Speaker 7: teams to represent your country. We pour over stats and
Speaker 7: we have a look at the players. We you know,
Speaker 7: we developed favorites and you know, and all we see
Speaker 7: the same players year after year. I don't forget our
Speaker 7: eighteen beat Australia a last year twice and tests over
Speaker 7: in Australia, so you know, rat was part of that.
Speaker 3: Some of those players haven't come to the forefront.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I think I endorsed what Jerry says
Speaker 8: about Gary Stead. I think he's you know, he's a
Speaker 8: he's a fine person, I think, with a good heart,
Speaker 8: who wants the best. But he is, in my view,
Speaker 8: crippled by conservatism. And that's you know, in the country
Speaker 8: of New Zealand size. I always feel that when we're
Speaker 8: at our best, it's when we you know, it must
Speaker 8: involve a little bit of risk taking from time to time,
Speaker 8: and I just don't see it. And so and the
Speaker 8: greatest example of it for me is persisting with Conway
Speaker 8: for as long as they have, and the and the
Speaker 8: continued selection with Tim Soudy. They were prepared to have
Speaker 8: a very hard conversation with Neil Wagner and it clearly
Speaker 8: came as a surprised to Wagner. They weren't consistent with
Speaker 8: Salvi and you know, I just feel that that for me,
Speaker 8: Damn's the coaching and selection crew and I want to
Speaker 8: see a more ambitious group. I think when you look
Speaker 8: at Steed's record since twenty twenty one, you first see
Speaker 8: that he came in on the quest of a wave
Speaker 8: in twenty eighteen. They went they won the World Test
Speaker 8: Final in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 5: Which was a fabulous achievement.
Speaker 8: But since then, if we're looking at Test cricket, I
Speaker 8: think the reck that the returns of this site have
Speaker 8: been very modest and again they've been too content for
Speaker 8: my view to stick with the same and I don't
Speaker 8: think there's enough hunger for places in the team.
Speaker 5: It's not competitive enough.
Speaker 7: The other thing was is you know, six years in
Speaker 7: a job for stead now and I think that represents
Speaker 7: a period of time to discover the job and what
Speaker 7: it means and what do you do and what things
Speaker 7: you want to change and what for what of a
Speaker 7: better word?
Speaker 6: To develop a culture?
Speaker 7: You know how hard you train, the routines of the team,
Speaker 7: the selection policies, the dealing with problems, but after that,
Speaker 7: you know it's kind of time to move on.
Speaker 6: Give someone else a crack.
Speaker 7: And I feel, I mean Gary if he wants to,
Speaker 7: because the results have been internationally okay, but apart from
Speaker 7: since Garth, as he said, they were sixth last year
Speaker 7: in the World Test Champions they're currently fourth. But you know,
Speaker 7: I just think Gary should if he wants to have
Speaker 7: a go again and apply.
Speaker 6: That's fine.
Speaker 7: Maybe he wants time with the family, He's earned that right,
Speaker 7: But there are other candidates who should also have a
Speaker 7: crack and at the coaching now, whether that's Shane Jurgenson
Speaker 7: who's currently at Wellington he won the Plunket Shield last year,
Speaker 7: whether it's Peter Fulton. We've lost Rob Walter who's now
Speaker 7: gone to coach South Africa. He was here at CD.
Speaker 7: We've lost Heinrich Milan up in Auckland, he's gone to Ireland.
Speaker 7: Grant Bad Bruins around and at Glamorgan. At the moment
Speaker 7: there are coaches around and maybe we can co op
Speaker 7: a few can't we is that a possibility. Couldn't we
Speaker 7: co op? Couldn't we co op the fleming? Couldn't we
Speaker 7: co up the bond?
Speaker 3: They may have to reflect on doing something like that
Speaker 3: because we're starting a new World Test Championship we assume
Speaker 3: in the middle of the year, and they've got time
Speaker 3: to put that to the forefront of their thinking. It
Speaker 3: may well be that they want white ball coaches and
Speaker 3: red ball coaches. That's something that they can probably reflect on.
Speaker 3: Garth has given us his bowler of the Year. I
Speaker 3: can't argue with that. Matt Henry forty eight wickets at
Speaker 3: eighteen quite clearly the star performer and he was getting
Speaker 3: help in the end by the best up and coming player,
Speaker 3: and you've talked about that Will O'Rourke. Hard to see
Speaker 3: past them as the leaders of our attack in the future.
Speaker 7: Oh, definitely, definitely. If we're going to continue to have
Speaker 7: seam based pictures, green pictures, those two are going to
Speaker 7: be crackers and maybe if we can keep people fit,
Speaker 7: there'll be others to join them. I thought it was
Speaker 7: you know, it was a difficult choice, for example, to
Speaker 7: leave Smith out. I think he's shown even in the
Speaker 7: short two you know spaces. Of the two matches he played,
Speaker 7: he showed enough to all of us, I think, who
Speaker 7: have watched cricket for a long time to say, we
Speaker 7: like your bowling.
Speaker 6: We like the way you say yes year.
Speaker 7: But he hit around a bit and you will leave
Speaker 7: it full and a'll weave it short at times. But
Speaker 7: the pace we like, the energy, we like, the effort,
Speaker 7: we like, the fielding we love. He's really starting to
Speaker 7: show some of the others up the way he moves
Speaker 7: around that park in the circle. And he's also seeming
Speaker 7: to be useful with the bat. And he's going to Surrey's.
Speaker 7: They'll teach him more. They're a very strong club, they've
Speaker 7: won the last three championships and they'll teach him stuff
Speaker 7: as well. So he's going to be a very useful
Speaker 7: addition at number eight or nine in the order as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there can be no argument with the batsmen of
Speaker 3: the year, and I guess the player of the year
Speaker 3: test wise Caine Williamson one thousand and thirteen runs in
Speaker 3: the year four centuries, four fifties. He was the man
Speaker 3: we missed the most whenever he wasn't available. Thankfully, through
Speaker 3: the year he was available and we talked earlier about
Speaker 3: the possibility of not having him in the future. Who knows,
Speaker 3: We'd have to wait and see. But he's the class
Speaker 3: performer in this side, and he led the way with
Speaker 3: the Batsman when others who we were expecting to contribute
Speaker 3: the likes of Lathan, the likes of Conway, weren't able
Speaker 3: to do so. Only three players averaged above forty in
Speaker 3: the Test matches, Williamson, Revendra and Young and I guess
Speaker 3: that's not really where we want to bet.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 5: And Revendra's stats were boosted or bolstered.
Speaker 8: By a you know, a double century against South Africa
Speaker 8: at the at.
Speaker 5: The bay Oval.
Speaker 8: I mean it was a very fine innings, but it
Speaker 8: was an innings against a very ordinary attack.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 8: I think if I look at my innings of the season,
Speaker 8: I think probably you know, for all that can did
Speaker 8: and he was magnificent.
Speaker 5: I think Revendra's you know, one hundred and thirty four
Speaker 5: at BEng LaRue.
Speaker 8: Against India in that first Test when they bowled India
Speaker 8: out for forty six and New Zealand, you know that
Speaker 8: that was a critical innings and his partnership with Conway,
Speaker 8: I just thought that was for me the batting highlight
Speaker 8: of the year on an individual basis. But having said
Speaker 8: that and having watched him through the England series and
Speaker 8: getting himself out six times in a row, he's got
Speaker 8: an awful lot to do. He had a very good
Speaker 8: series against India. But I think watching him, I'm still
Speaker 8: not convinced that he's the number four. And just to
Speaker 8: turn to Williamson, well, another incredible year by an amazing player.
Speaker 8: I have to say I had this sinking feeling in
Speaker 8: Hamilton that this might be it for him.
Speaker 5: In the white clothing game. I don't know what it was.
Speaker 8: It's it's that gut instinct, but I felt that I
Speaker 8: was watching, you know, possibly Williamson playing in his last
Speaker 8: match for in Test cricket.
Speaker 5: I don't know why, but it just felt like that.
Speaker 8: And I suspect that Caine he won't want a big
Speaker 8: send off in a great big Swan song. He's not
Speaker 8: that sort of person.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Well, well, Ravendra first, at the moment, he doesn't adapt
Speaker 7: to Test format, does he. He wants to score very
Speaker 7: quickly and he tries to do that. It was okay
Speaker 7: and in do because the ball doesn't bounce as soon
Speaker 7: as you get a bit more bounce than if you
Speaker 7: don't actually make contact with the ball at the right time,
Speaker 7: you're normally out in front of yourself a bit too
Speaker 7: much and you lose control of the shot it goes
Speaker 7: in the air.
Speaker 6: So Ravendra needs to adapt.
Speaker 7: You could see him locked in a battle with himself
Speaker 7: in the last innings at Hamilton. He was only three
Speaker 7: off about thirty or forty balls and wasn't playing a
Speaker 7: shot at all, So he went from one extreme to
Speaker 7: the other. When he gets it, and he will get it,
Speaker 7: he's a smart man and he's also a very, very
Speaker 7: capable player. I agree also with Garth's comment about his fielding.
Speaker 7: Get into the game, Revendra. He should be a gully
Speaker 7: or a slip or someone in the covers, left hander,
Speaker 7: someone at midwicket, in these key positions. That's where we
Speaker 7: want to see him. But at the moment, I'm afraid
Speaker 7: he's just not really in the game. When he fields,
Speaker 7: he and Conwa they are always patrolling the boundaries. We
Speaker 7: need him in there, caking catchers, making a runout, all
Speaker 7: those sorts of things, giving encouragement. That's what I want
Speaker 7: to see from him, and so that's a part of
Speaker 7: his game.
Speaker 6: I think that he really needs to work on. You know.
Speaker 7: Williamson absolutely just terrific player. He's the one who does adapt.
Speaker 3: What about the bowling performance of the year. Matt Henry
Speaker 3: is our bowler of the year seven for sixty seven
Speaker 3: against Australia and christ Yet the bowling effort against India
Speaker 3: when they were dismissed for that total of forty six,
Speaker 3: five for fifteen and three for one hundred and two.
Speaker 3: And then you can throw in also the bowling of
Speaker 3: Satna and Poune seven for fifty three and six for
Speaker 3: one hundred and four. Who was the bowler who provided
Speaker 3: you with the best moment?
Speaker 5: Gat Oh, Matt Henry.
Speaker 8: I mean, I think it's tough on Centaler because his
Speaker 8: performance was wass I mean, but again against India ten
Speaker 8: wickets at fifteen for Henry against Australia seventeen at fifteen
Speaker 8: and again I come back to the fact that he
Speaker 8: did not play in gaul because Tim Saadi was preferred
Speaker 8: over him, and that is a selection blunder and for
Speaker 8: me it's a stain on the side and how they do.
Speaker 5: How they've done things.
Speaker 8: For me, I thought his performance at Hagley against Australia,
Speaker 8: his seven for sixty seven. That's my pack against against
Speaker 8: the fine Australian side, and then followed by by satnus
Speaker 8: seven for as well and other a wonderful performance and
Speaker 8: very helpful conditions.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they were both both good conditions, weren't they that
Speaker 7: were describing, particularly the Begoluru won for the Seamas and
Speaker 7: the first innings lights on murky cloud, you know, the
Speaker 7: pits that has had a little bit of moisture in
Speaker 7: it and so on and nipped about, so that they
Speaker 7: are ideal conditions for someone like Matt Henry. He is
Speaker 7: so consistent, he is so much at the stumps, always
Speaker 7: forcing you to play a stroke, nipping it about. And
Speaker 7: he's quick enough that he can sit someone down as well.
Speaker 7: He can bowl the odd bounce and doesn't overdo it
Speaker 7: by any stretch. And for so long he's been on
Speaker 7: the pine, hasn't he sitting there watching games? Now he's
Speaker 7: leading the attack and that's a fantastic journey that he's undergone. There.
Speaker 7: Santana is improving all the time, isn't he. Santana is
Speaker 7: finding a way now in red ball cricket. He's got
Speaker 7: the confidence and to dismiss root, what did you call
Speaker 7: him the number one, didn't you Wads? In the Test
Speaker 7: batting he got underneath the bat as he was trying
Speaker 7: to sweep, wasn't he He was trying to he was hitting
Speaker 7: him around the prior over it might have been the
Speaker 7: same over, but he got one underneath his bat, just
Speaker 7: past the gloves and it was LBW.
Speaker 6: So he's a.
Speaker 7: Cunning bowler and he's improving. His batting is improving, isn't
Speaker 7: it as well? I mean he put a lot more
Speaker 7: legs legs to tire, didn't he. When they played in
Speaker 7: that eccentric way at the start of the third day England,
Speaker 7: with all of them posted on the boundary, he said, yep,
Speaker 7: I'll just take it off the fourth ball, thank you
Speaker 7: very much, so keep bowling. So I think he's improved
Speaker 7: a great deal too. So they're the two for me
Speaker 7: in the year.
Speaker 3: An email from Peter I wait heavidly every week for
Speaker 3: your podcast, which I listened to while on my exercycle.
Speaker 3: God that's hard work. I agree with most of the
Speaker 3: comments on Tim Salde's retirement that he's carried on too long. However,
Speaker 3: I've been surprised about the insistence that he's just too slow.
Speaker 3: The English bowlers are doing a number on us and
Speaker 3: mostly bowling around the same speeds as sauveyre taking wickets,
Speaker 3: but he's not. I assume this is the difference between swing,
Speaker 3: seam and bounce bowlers comments.
Speaker 6: He's absolutely right.
Speaker 7: I would have thought the bulk of Saudi's deliveries were lower.
Speaker 7: To be honest, it was only in Hamilton that we
Speaker 7: all noticed how tired and fatigued they had become. And
Speaker 7: it may be an issue for England, especially when they
Speaker 7: go to Wossie with the harder pictures and the herd
Speaker 7: of footholds they've got to smash down onto all the time.
Speaker 6: So I think the bulk.
Speaker 7: Of Saudi's deliveries are slower, and I do think as sorry,
Speaker 7: I forgot, was it Peter?
Speaker 6: Did you say?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Peter?
Speaker 6: Yep, yeah. I think Peter's right when he says it's swing.
Speaker 7: The other bowlers, if we're talking about cars and we're
Speaker 7: talking about Atkinson and so on, they're not so much
Speaker 7: swing bowlers Saudi.
Speaker 6: Saudi is really the.
Speaker 7: Mainly at swing bowler and doesn't bowl many overs now,
Speaker 7: and if you swing the ball at one hundred and
Speaker 7: twenty eight you see it coming from his hand, so
Speaker 7: you get a good look at the ball as it's
Speaker 7: coming down towards you. It takes longer you see the
Speaker 7: line of the ball and you've got a choice. I
Speaker 7: either hit it, and in Crawley's case, he smashed it
Speaker 7: if he could or missed it. And in others they
Speaker 7: hit him, they attacked him as well. So that's the reason.
Speaker 7: It's because he's a swing bowler and you see it
Speaker 7: earlier from the hand than you do if you're a
Speaker 7: seam bowler.
Speaker 5: Only. Yeah, I agreed, Jerry, and you watched.
Speaker 8: I thought it was very interesting watching England in the
Speaker 8: first innings at the Hagley Oval where they really struggled
Speaker 8: to find their length, and you know, they had Wokes,
Speaker 8: Cars and Atkinson and they're set. They're predominantly seen bowlers,
Speaker 8: and Saldi's a swing bowler. But as soon as they
Speaker 8: got their length, and particularly Wokes in the second innings
Speaker 8: and cast bowled a bit shorter, but then would would
Speaker 8: would bowl the ones that was pitched up and catching
Speaker 8: people on the crease. I just felt that, you know,
Speaker 8: the scene movement in our conditions is more challenging for batsmen,
Speaker 8: and you know, I thought if Saudi was bowling swing.
Speaker 8: At one hundred and thirty five, for example, or one
Speaker 8: hundred and thirty eight or one forty, it's a different
Speaker 8: kettle of fish completely, But at one twenty five one
Speaker 8: twenty eight, I agree with you. You see it early and
Speaker 8: you're allowed to watch. I mean, he beat the bat
Speaker 8: on a few occasions in fairness to him, and you know,
Speaker 8: I don't think I've seen the bat being beaten more
Speaker 8: times in a series than in this one. It was
Speaker 8: a perpetual happening. But I just think England's I think
Speaker 8: seem in our conditions was a very useful thing for
Speaker 8: England and they exploited it extremely well.
Speaker 3: Thanks for that email, Peter on the Front Foot twenty
Speaker 3: at gmail dot com.
Speaker 1: Let's hear from you, Brian Waddle, Jeremy Coney on the
Speaker 1: Front Foot.
Speaker 3: Following the Test match, the selectors took the opportunity to
Speaker 3: name the latest white ball captain, Mitchell satna Is to
Speaker 3: be the captain of the White Bull T twenty and
Speaker 3: Odie Eyeside. Gary Stead explained the reasoning behind the choice
Speaker 3: of Sanna.
Speaker 9: Yeah, lookt Mitch has been a great player for New
Speaker 9: Zealand over a long period of time, he's got a
Speaker 9: fantastic white ball record.
Speaker 5: And he's done some leadership for.
Speaker 9: Us in the past couple of years as well, like
Speaker 9: filling in when Cain or Tom or Tim moreover it's
Speaker 9: been hasn't been available. So we think he fits the
Speaker 9: I guess bill nicely between the older experienced players and
Speaker 9: the younger guys coming through. He's got a great rapport
Speaker 9: with players. He's very very valued within in our team
Speaker 9: dressing room as well. Our preference was always to have
Speaker 9: one guy to do both white ball formats as well,
Speaker 9: and we think with Tom Latham going into the Test
Speaker 9: captaincy recently and that's a huge job in itself, and
Speaker 9: thought separating them was the right way to go. He's calm,
Speaker 9: collected out in the middle. He's a guy that often
Speaker 9: looks laid back but thinks a lot about the game.
Speaker 9: Is hugely respected with ours and our dressing room as well.
Speaker 9: I think he fills that void nicely between experienced players
Speaker 9: and guys that are new to the game and has
Speaker 9: a good understanding I guess of white bull cricket. He's
Speaker 9: played in cricket all around the world, so so you'll
Speaker 9: bring a lot of those experiences to the group and
Speaker 9: Senator's viewpoint that.
Speaker 10: I'm excited, but I am. It's it's obviously a privilege
Speaker 10: to you know, play for your country and obviously to
Speaker 10: captain as well as obviously another another one. And yeah,
Speaker 10: obviously you know exciting times coming up, you know, looking
Speaker 10: forward to the challenge of the captaincy and we've got
Speaker 10: a I guess a nice little white ball run now
Speaker 10: in the next kind of few months to to really
Speaker 10: crack into it. Yeah, I guess it was I didn't
Speaker 10: really think about it so much at the start, and
Speaker 10: then you know when you do it and you kind
Speaker 10: of get an opportunity to do it, and but I
Speaker 10: guess full time is another challenge, and you know, really
Speaker 10: really excited for it. You know, like you said, I've
Speaker 10: done it a little bit on and off, and I guess,
Speaker 10: you know, we did a kind of a way to
Speaker 10: Ireland Scotland and really had a nice run and you know,
Speaker 10: it was a different crew, but it was you know,
Speaker 10: something you know I cherished and you know going forward
Speaker 10: now it's a great opportunity and I'm really looking forward
Speaker 10: to it. And I guess kind of putting my spin
Speaker 10: on of what's been you know, really kind of successful
Speaker 10: the last few years and white ball for us.
Speaker 3: And before we go this week some awards. I've determined
Speaker 3: the most glove Punches of the Year award goes to
Speaker 3: Caine Williamson. Is there any other contenders for that?
Speaker 8: No, But I've seen players starting. I've seen a few
Speaker 8: players now they're starting to tap bats. There's a new
Speaker 8: trend coming in. Yeah, so I think you know, stick
Speaker 8: with your glove punch. But I think this time next
Speaker 8: year you might be talking about the most bat taps.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you might. Down low. They're down low too.
Speaker 6: There are different.
Speaker 7: The other one is the running glove punch, which would
Speaker 7: be Phillips, Glenn Phillips.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you missed the other punch. The shoulder shrug
Speaker 3: of the Year award has to be jasperate Boomer, doesn't it.
Speaker 3: He's got that twitch and he does it more often
Speaker 3: than the other cricket I see.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's good.
Speaker 6: I can put up with that.
Speaker 5: He can do what he likes.
Speaker 7: Maybe a few umpires occasionally when once they've given a
Speaker 7: decision and they just shrugged their shoulders when they have
Speaker 7: to change their decision again.
Speaker 3: I've got a Tailor's Award and I'm dishing out two
Speaker 3: tape measures to the people who make cricket trousers for
Speaker 3: Brydon Cass and willow' rourke. Surely they can make them
Speaker 3: a little bit longer for them rather than have them
Speaker 3: sort of just below the knees.
Speaker 8: Well, you're missing a key a men's fashion trend wads,
Speaker 8: which is to show your ankle. I've never understood, but
Speaker 8: I think they're fashionably short, is that right?
Speaker 7: I didn't know that i'd noticed that willow' rooks trousers.
Speaker 7: I thought he had borrowed Patio Rooks. He's dad weather
Speaker 7: in back in the nineties. But they've probably are bell bottoms.
Speaker 7: They'd probably go out slightly wider at the bottom.
Speaker 5: Their sailor's trousers.
Speaker 6: Oh that's right, exactly.
Speaker 3: Ah well, I remember that trend. When I buy on
Speaker 3: the next set of jeans, they've got to come three
Speaker 3: inches above the ankles.
Speaker 7: Okay, not for your ankles, not good for me.
Speaker 5: Like you and me with the shorter leg cone, you
Speaker 5: could get away with it.
Speaker 6: No, No, I wouldn't get away with it either. You
Speaker 6: want to you don't want to see too much of
Speaker 6: the leg from me.
Speaker 3: And finally, having had to watch a lot of television
Speaker 3: as well over the last few games. How many replays
Speaker 3: do you need from every angle on the ground of
Speaker 3: Steve Smith? Scoring one hundred is enough until you reach
Speaker 3: the S point on your TV?
Speaker 7: I don't know how many do you make? Get one
Speaker 7: hundred odds? So why not one for every run? How
Speaker 7: many you got?
Speaker 3: I think that's how many we saw that you are. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's becoming a bit like Verick Coli. Every fat and
Speaker 3: snow he gets on TV when he was in.
Speaker 5: Is the is the S for sandpaper?
Speaker 3: No, it's what we used to used to affirm in
Speaker 3: radio of if you talk a load of old rubbish
Speaker 3: the S point they call they say ship, So be
Speaker 3: careful you don't get to the S point.
Speaker 6: That's I'm usually running at that point.
Speaker 3: Yes, well we've got we've got to go. We've got
Speaker 3: to run off to have a quiet little celebratory drink
Speaker 3: for Christmas. Wish you guys all the best. Thanks for
Speaker 3: what you've done for on the front foot this year
Speaker 3: and your knowledge and involvement in keeping the public involved
Speaker 3: in the viewpoint from off the park. So have it
Speaker 3: goes Christmas, Jerry.
Speaker 7: If you thanks, thanks once all the business guys, go well,
Speaker 7: guard Chasm
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