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Speaker 2: Take it, It's it is out, The Test is over. Goodness,

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Speaker 3: Hello, pre Christmas on the front Foot. The Black Cats

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Speaker 3: save the best to the last, but it's only a

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Speaker 3: consolation win the World Test Championship and the season's success

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Speaker 3: has gone lost two to one two England. Why does

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Speaker 3: it take so long to play the quality cricket they did?

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Speaker 5: In three?

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Speaker 3: The third Test, Santa wins the top whiteful job and

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Speaker 3: we've got some on the Front Foot awards to make

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Speaker 3: from the twelve Test matches. Test match is over, Jerry,

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Speaker 3: the season's gone. It's not even Christmas and we've got

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Speaker 3: no more tests for about six months. It's a bit hollow,

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Speaker 3: isn't it when you say goodbye to Test cricket and

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Speaker 3: you're only left with short.

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Speaker 6: Format weird years, isn't it?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 6: Personally?

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Speaker 7: I like the stuff after Christmas because better weather and

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Speaker 7: the pictures are a little bit better, and I think

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Speaker 7: the whole thing feels much more cricket ye if you like,

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Speaker 7: rather than prior to Christmas. But I don't know whether

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Speaker 3: All the time, Garth, you'll be having some season greetings,

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Speaker 3: I'm sure, and celebrating the festive season that a traditionalist

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Speaker 3: like you would be sad to see the Test season

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Speaker 3: to see New Zealand and zim Barbe. As I understand.

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Speaker 8: It, it was such an odd feeling, wasn't it, watching

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Speaker 8: we've got white ball cricket, as you've touched on, but

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Speaker 8: it doesn't feel the same. And I feel like, yeah,

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Speaker 8: you know, the Christmas has gone come and gone already.

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Speaker 8: Because I think for all of us cricket lovers, the

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Speaker 8: more afterwards as well. So I mean I wonder is

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Speaker 8: It seems it's a bit of a shame. And I

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Speaker 8: guess what's the other thing in Jerry that occurs to me?

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Speaker 8: You know, the next Test is six months seven eight

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Speaker 8: months away in Zimbabwe, and if we'd moved into a

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Speaker 5: Such a long way away.

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Speaker 8: I'm not sure what's going to happen, if that makes sense,

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Speaker 3: Well, Jerry, the interesting thing is that Tim Southy has

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Speaker 6: If it's Williamson, the king of.

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I wonder Garth. With the difference in the Test matches,

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Speaker 5: Good question was I think?

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Speaker 8: I mean the first Test in christ Church and you

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Speaker 8: And so you know, it just felt like they were off.

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Speaker 5: You know, it was it was a.

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Speaker 8: Really exciting to see a New Zealand bowler bowling at

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Speaker 3: M interesting Garth newsflash for you. Rougter's back at number

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Speaker 3: every two or three minutes. Jerry Test matches in twenty

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Speaker 3: four New Zealand played twelve one six lost six in

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Speaker 3: Mediocre record. Let's give them a mark out of ten.

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Speaker 3: I've given them five.

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Speaker 7: Maybe, well, they scaled the heights beating India, didn't they.

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Speaker 7: B We lose to Sri Lanka, we lose to Australia,

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Speaker 6: And England in my mind and one.

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Speaker 7: Of the Tests, but we get into positions and matches

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Speaker 6: The match at Hagley.

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Speaker 8: It was strange and I think the point you make

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Speaker 8: the Australian Test. You know, they we said on air

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Speaker 8: It was incredible that that that went down and Revender,

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Speaker 5: Marsh was and it has cost them a lot.

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Speaker 8: And we continue, you know, while the New Zealand and

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Speaker 8: and you know, I'm going to be very interested to

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Speaker 8: some tough decisions.

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Speaker 3: Your mark's out of ten Garth.

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Speaker 5: I'm at a five as well.

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Speaker 8: Sorry to be consistent with you guys, but I but

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Speaker 8: match for in Test cricket.

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Speaker 5: I don't know why, but it just felt like that.

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Speaker 8: And I suspect that Caine he won't want a big

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Speaker 8: send off in a great big Swan song. He's not

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Speaker 8: that sort of person.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Well, well, Ravendra first, at the moment, he doesn't adapt

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Speaker 7: to Test format, does he. He wants to score very

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Speaker 7: quickly and he tries to do that. It was okay

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Speaker 7: and in do because the ball doesn't bounce as soon

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Speaker 7: as you get a bit more bounce than if you

449
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Speaker 7: don't actually make contact with the ball at the right time,

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Speaker 7: you're normally out in front of yourself a bit too

451
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Speaker 7: much and you lose control of the shot it goes

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Speaker 7: in the air.

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Speaker 6: So Ravendra needs to adapt.

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Speaker 7: You could see him locked in a battle with himself

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Speaker 7: in the last innings at Hamilton. He was only three

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Speaker 7: off about thirty or forty balls and wasn't playing a

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Speaker 7: shot at all, So he went from one extreme to

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Speaker 7: the other. When he gets it, and he will get it,

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Speaker 7: he's a smart man and he's also a very, very

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Speaker 7: capable player. I agree also with Garth's comment about his fielding.

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Speaker 7: Get into the game, Revendra. He should be a gully

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Speaker 7: or a slip or someone in the covers, left hander,

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Speaker 7: someone at midwicket, in these key positions. That's where we

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Speaker 7: want to see him. But at the moment, I'm afraid

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Speaker 7: he's just not really in the game. When he fields,

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Speaker 7: he and Conwa they are always patrolling the boundaries. We

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Speaker 7: need him in there, caking catchers, making a runout, all

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Speaker 7: those sorts of things, giving encouragement. That's what I want

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Speaker 7: to see from him, and so that's a part of

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Speaker 7: his game.

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Speaker 6: I think that he really needs to work on. You know.

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Speaker 7: Williamson absolutely just terrific player. He's the one who does adapt.

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Speaker 3: What about the bowling performance of the year. Matt Henry

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Speaker 3: is our bowler of the year seven for sixty seven

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Speaker 3: against Australia and christ Yet the bowling effort against India

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Speaker 3: when they were dismissed for that total of forty six,

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Speaker 3: five for fifteen and three for one hundred and two.

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Speaker 3: And then you can throw in also the bowling of

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Speaker 3: Satna and Poune seven for fifty three and six for

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Speaker 3: one hundred and four. Who was the bowler who provided

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Speaker 3: you with the best moment?

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Speaker 5: Gat Oh, Matt Henry.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I think it's tough on Centaler because his

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Speaker 8: performance was wass I mean, but again against India ten

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Speaker 8: wickets at fifteen for Henry against Australia seventeen at fifteen

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Speaker 8: and again I come back to the fact that he

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Speaker 8: did not play in gaul because Tim Saadi was preferred

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Speaker 8: over him, and that is a selection blunder and for

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Speaker 8: me it's a stain on the side and how they do.

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Speaker 5: How they've done things.

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Speaker 8: For me, I thought his performance at Hagley against Australia,

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Speaker 8: his seven for sixty seven. That's my pack against against

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Speaker 8: the fine Australian side, and then followed by by satnus

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Speaker 8: seven for as well and other a wonderful performance and

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Speaker 8: very helpful conditions.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they were both both good conditions, weren't they that

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Speaker 7: were describing, particularly the Begoluru won for the Seamas and

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Speaker 7: the first innings lights on murky cloud, you know, the

499
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Speaker 7: pits that has had a little bit of moisture in

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Speaker 7: it and so on and nipped about, so that they

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Speaker 7: are ideal conditions for someone like Matt Henry. He is

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Speaker 7: so consistent, he is so much at the stumps, always

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Speaker 7: forcing you to play a stroke, nipping it about. And

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Speaker 7: he's quick enough that he can sit someone down as well.

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Speaker 7: He can bowl the odd bounce and doesn't overdo it

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Speaker 7: by any stretch. And for so long he's been on

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Speaker 7: the pine, hasn't he sitting there watching games? Now he's

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Speaker 7: leading the attack and that's a fantastic journey that he's undergone. There.

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Speaker 7: Santana is improving all the time, isn't he. Santana is

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Speaker 7: finding a way now in red ball cricket. He's got

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Speaker 7: the confidence and to dismiss root, what did you call

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Speaker 7: him the number one, didn't you Wads? In the Test

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Speaker 7: batting he got underneath the bat as he was trying

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Speaker 7: to sweep, wasn't he He was trying to he was hitting

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Speaker 7: him around the prior over it might have been the

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Speaker 7: same over, but he got one underneath his bat, just

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Speaker 7: past the gloves and it was LBW.

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Speaker 6: So he's a.

519
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Speaker 7: Cunning bowler and he's improving. His batting is improving, isn't

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Speaker 7: it as well? I mean he put a lot more

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Speaker 7: legs legs to tire, didn't he. When they played in

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Speaker 7: that eccentric way at the start of the third day England,

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Speaker 7: with all of them posted on the boundary, he said, yep,

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Speaker 7: I'll just take it off the fourth ball, thank you

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Speaker 7: very much, so keep bowling. So I think he's improved

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Speaker 7: a great deal too. So they're the two for me

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Speaker 7: in the year.

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Speaker 3: An email from Peter I wait heavidly every week for

529
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Speaker 3: your podcast, which I listened to while on my exercycle.

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Speaker 3: God that's hard work. I agree with most of the

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Speaker 3: comments on Tim Salde's retirement that he's carried on too long. However,

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Speaker 3: I've been surprised about the insistence that he's just too slow.

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Speaker 3: The English bowlers are doing a number on us and

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Speaker 3: mostly bowling around the same speeds as sauveyre taking wickets,

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Speaker 3: but he's not. I assume this is the difference between swing,

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Speaker 3: seam and bounce bowlers comments.

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Speaker 6: He's absolutely right.

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Speaker 7: I would have thought the bulk of Saudi's deliveries were lower.

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Speaker 7: To be honest, it was only in Hamilton that we

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Speaker 7: all noticed how tired and fatigued they had become. And

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Speaker 7: it may be an issue for England, especially when they

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Speaker 7: go to Wossie with the harder pictures and the herd

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Speaker 7: of footholds they've got to smash down onto all the time.

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Speaker 6: So I think the bulk.

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Speaker 7: Of Saudi's deliveries are slower, and I do think as sorry,

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Speaker 7: I forgot, was it Peter?

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Speaker 6: Did you say?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Peter?

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Speaker 6: Yep, yeah. I think Peter's right when he says it's swing.

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Speaker 7: The other bowlers, if we're talking about cars and we're

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Speaker 7: talking about Atkinson and so on, they're not so much

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Speaker 7: swing bowlers Saudi.

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Speaker 6: Saudi is really the.

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Speaker 7: Mainly at swing bowler and doesn't bowl many overs now,

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Speaker 7: and if you swing the ball at one hundred and

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Speaker 7: twenty eight you see it coming from his hand, so

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Speaker 7: you get a good look at the ball as it's

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Speaker 7: coming down towards you. It takes longer you see the

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Speaker 7: line of the ball and you've got a choice. I

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Speaker 7: either hit it, and in Crawley's case, he smashed it

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Speaker 7: if he could or missed it. And in others they

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Speaker 7: hit him, they attacked him as well. So that's the reason.

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Speaker 7: It's because he's a swing bowler and you see it

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Speaker 7: earlier from the hand than you do if you're a

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Speaker 7: seam bowler.

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Speaker 5: Only. Yeah, I agreed, Jerry, and you watched.

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Speaker 8: I thought it was very interesting watching England in the

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Speaker 8: first innings at the Hagley Oval where they really struggled

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Speaker 8: to find their length, and you know, they had Wokes,

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Speaker 8: Cars and Atkinson and they're set. They're predominantly seen bowlers,

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Speaker 8: and Saldi's a swing bowler. But as soon as they

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Speaker 8: got their length, and particularly Wokes in the second innings

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Speaker 8: and cast bowled a bit shorter, but then would would

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Speaker 8: would bowl the ones that was pitched up and catching

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Speaker 8: people on the crease. I just felt that, you know,

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Speaker 8: the scene movement in our conditions is more challenging for batsmen,

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Speaker 8: and you know, I thought if Saudi was bowling swing.

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Speaker 8: At one hundred and thirty five, for example, or one

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Speaker 8: hundred and thirty eight or one forty, it's a different

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Speaker 8: kettle of fish completely, But at one twenty five one

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Speaker 8: twenty eight, I agree with you. You see it early and

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Speaker 8: you're allowed to watch. I mean, he beat the bat

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Speaker 8: on a few occasions in fairness to him, and you know,

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Speaker 8: I don't think I've seen the bat being beaten more

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Speaker 8: times in a series than in this one. It was

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Speaker 8: a perpetual happening. But I just think England's I think

587
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Speaker 8: seem in our conditions was a very useful thing for

588
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Speaker 8: England and they exploited it extremely well.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for that email, Peter on the Front Foot twenty

590
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Speaker 3: at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 1: Let's hear from you, Brian Waddle, Jeremy Coney on the

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Speaker 1: Front Foot.

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Speaker 3: Following the Test match, the selectors took the opportunity to

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Speaker 3: name the latest white ball captain, Mitchell satna Is to

595
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Speaker 3: be the captain of the White Bull T twenty and

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Speaker 3: Odie Eyeside. Gary Stead explained the reasoning behind the choice

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Speaker 3: of Sanna.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, lookt Mitch has been a great player for New

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Speaker 9: Zealand over a long period of time, he's got a

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Speaker 9: fantastic white ball record.

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Speaker 5: And he's done some leadership for.

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Speaker 9: Us in the past couple of years as well, like

603
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Speaker 9: filling in when Cain or Tom or Tim moreover it's

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Speaker 9: been hasn't been available. So we think he fits the

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Speaker 9: I guess bill nicely between the older experienced players and

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Speaker 9: the younger guys coming through. He's got a great rapport

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Speaker 9: with players. He's very very valued within in our team

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Speaker 9: dressing room as well. Our preference was always to have

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Speaker 9: one guy to do both white ball formats as well,

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Speaker 9: and we think with Tom Latham going into the Test

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Speaker 9: captaincy recently and that's a huge job in itself, and

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Speaker 9: thought separating them was the right way to go. He's calm,

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Speaker 9: collected out in the middle. He's a guy that often

614
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Speaker 9: looks laid back but thinks a lot about the game.

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Speaker 9: Is hugely respected with ours and our dressing room as well.

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Speaker 9: I think he fills that void nicely between experienced players

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Speaker 9: and guys that are new to the game and has

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Speaker 9: a good understanding I guess of white bull cricket. He's

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Speaker 9: played in cricket all around the world, so so you'll

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Speaker 9: bring a lot of those experiences to the group and

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Speaker 9: Senator's viewpoint that.

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Speaker 10: I'm excited, but I am. It's it's obviously a privilege

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Speaker 10: to you know, play for your country and obviously to

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Speaker 10: captain as well as obviously another another one. And yeah,

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Speaker 10: obviously you know exciting times coming up, you know, looking

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Speaker 10: forward to the challenge of the captaincy and we've got

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Speaker 10: a I guess a nice little white ball run now

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Speaker 10: in the next kind of few months to to really

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Speaker 10: crack into it. Yeah, I guess it was I didn't

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Speaker 10: really think about it so much at the start, and

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Speaker 10: then you know when you do it and you kind

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Speaker 10: of get an opportunity to do it, and but I

633
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Speaker 10: guess full time is another challenge, and you know, really

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Speaker 10: really excited for it. You know, like you said, I've

635
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Speaker 10: done it a little bit on and off, and I guess,

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Speaker 10: you know, we did a kind of a way to

637
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Speaker 10: Ireland Scotland and really had a nice run and you know,

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Speaker 10: it was a different crew, but it was you know,

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Speaker 10: something you know I cherished and you know going forward

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Speaker 10: now it's a great opportunity and I'm really looking forward

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Speaker 10: to it. And I guess kind of putting my spin

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Speaker 10: on of what's been you know, really kind of successful

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Speaker 10: the last few years and white ball for us.

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Speaker 3: And before we go this week some awards. I've determined

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Speaker 3: the most glove Punches of the Year award goes to

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Speaker 3: Caine Williamson. Is there any other contenders for that?

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Speaker 8: No, But I've seen players starting. I've seen a few

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Speaker 8: players now they're starting to tap bats. There's a new

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Speaker 8: trend coming in. Yeah, so I think you know, stick

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Speaker 8: with your glove punch. But I think this time next

651
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Speaker 8: year you might be talking about the most bat taps.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you might. Down low. They're down low too.

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Speaker 6: There are different.

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Speaker 7: The other one is the running glove punch, which would

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Speaker 7: be Phillips, Glenn Phillips.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you missed the other punch. The shoulder shrug

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Speaker 3: of the Year award has to be jasperate Boomer, doesn't it.

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Speaker 3: He's got that twitch and he does it more often

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Speaker 3: than the other cricket I see.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's good.

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Speaker 6: I can put up with that.

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Speaker 5: He can do what he likes.

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Speaker 7: Maybe a few umpires occasionally when once they've given a

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Speaker 7: decision and they just shrugged their shoulders when they have

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Speaker 7: to change their decision again.

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Speaker 3: I've got a Tailor's Award and I'm dishing out two

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Speaker 3: tape measures to the people who make cricket trousers for

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Speaker 3: Brydon Cass and willow' rourke. Surely they can make them

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Speaker 3: a little bit longer for them rather than have them

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Speaker 3: sort of just below the knees.

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Speaker 8: Well, you're missing a key a men's fashion trend wads,

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Speaker 8: which is to show your ankle. I've never understood, but

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Speaker 8: I think they're fashionably short, is that right?

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Speaker 7: I didn't know that i'd noticed that willow' rooks trousers.

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Speaker 7: I thought he had borrowed Patio Rooks. He's dad weather

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Speaker 7: in back in the nineties. But they've probably are bell bottoms.

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Speaker 7: They'd probably go out slightly wider at the bottom.

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Speaker 5: Their sailor's trousers.

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Speaker 6: Oh that's right, exactly.

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Speaker 3: Ah well, I remember that trend. When I buy on

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Speaker 3: the next set of jeans, they've got to come three

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Speaker 3: inches above the ankles.

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Speaker 7: Okay, not for your ankles, not good for me.

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Speaker 5: Like you and me with the shorter leg cone, you

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Speaker 5: could get away with it.

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Speaker 6: No, No, I wouldn't get away with it either. You

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Speaker 6: want to you don't want to see too much of

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Speaker 6: the leg from me.

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Speaker 3: And finally, having had to watch a lot of television

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Speaker 3: as well over the last few games. How many replays

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Speaker 3: do you need from every angle on the ground of

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Speaker 3: Steve Smith? Scoring one hundred is enough until you reach

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Speaker 3: the S point on your TV?

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Speaker 7: I don't know how many do you make? Get one

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Speaker 7: hundred odds? So why not one for every run? How

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Speaker 7: many you got?

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Speaker 3: I think that's how many we saw that you are. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's becoming a bit like Verick Coli. Every fat and

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Speaker 3: snow he gets on TV when he was in.

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Speaker 5: Is the is the S for sandpaper?

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Speaker 3: No, it's what we used to used to affirm in

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Speaker 3: radio of if you talk a load of old rubbish

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Speaker 3: the S point they call they say ship, So be

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Speaker 3: careful you don't get to the S point.

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Speaker 6: That's I'm usually running at that point.

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Speaker 3: Yes, well we've got we've got to go. We've got

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Speaker 3: to run off to have a quiet little celebratory drink

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Speaker 3: for Christmas. Wish you guys all the best. Thanks for

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Speaker 3: what you've done for on the front foot this year

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Speaker 3: and your knowledge and involvement in keeping the public involved

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Speaker 3: in the viewpoint from off the park. So have it

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Speaker 3: goes Christmas, Jerry.

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Speaker 7: If you thanks, thanks once all the business guys, go well,

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Speaker 7: guard Chasm

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